Mike Williams or Charles Rogers?

[WABronco]

Lions | Rogers or Williams could be gone
Fri, 12 May 2006 09:17:41 -0700

Tom Kowalski, of mLive.com, reports the Detroit Lions could part with either WR Charles Rogers or WR Mike Williams before the regular season.
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Give me a receiver swap!

[Florida_Bronco]

I don't really know enough about either of them to say which one we (hypothetically) should go after.

[DBroncos4life]

I think Mike liked Williams, but he seems like a guy that will just get fat.

[Orange_Beard]

If the liedowns are going to dump a wideout why would they take another wideout?

[Play2win]

I still think Mike Williams could dominate the middle on the right team, But if we already have Marshal, we might want to look in a different direction in terms of skill-set...

[Ballhawk]

If Mike Williams would embrace an Hback role he will have a fine Career. I do not think he has the leaping/athletic ability to be a dominant wideout. I think we are set at WR in any case with Terrell, JW, Rod. I think one of Watts, Marshall, Hixon will also emerge as a slot guy.

[WABronco]

If the liedowns are going to dump a wideout why would they take another wideout?
Mike Martz...

[Ballhawk]

I think Lelie would have a great year lined up on the other side of Roy (who is a stud!). I doubt he would see double coverage all year.

[MechanicalBull]

I'm not sure if the Lions would be interested but I think Lelie would definitley want to play for Martz and I think Martz would love to have someone like Lelie. I don't know if I'd want either Williams or Rogers but if I had to pick I'd take Williams unless you can get Rogers on like an incentive laden contract or something cheap in case he gets injured again the guy has played in 15 games in 3 yrs.

[Old Dude]

Rogers is frail. He's missed a huge amount of time with injuries. Also got busted for drugs last year.

http://www.stpetetimes.com/2005/10/04/Sports/Report__Lions__Rogers.shtml

Mike Williams would probably be the safer pickup.

[ludo21]

neither. Both have baggage.

But Mike would be a better choice if the trade came up.

[Arkansas Bronco]

They used pick #11 (I think) to get Williams he will not be cheap to trade for. Rodgers was picked high also but has had multiple collerbone breaks and failed a drug test so he will be let go far easier. I personaly liked M. Williams when he was at USC didnt see him do much last year so not certain how he is now.

[Mediator12]

No need to trade. One will be released unless someone is desperate enough to trade to get them. Martz signed Hakim to help be the slot WR. Neither of those guys are sticking around to be the fourth WR.

Lelie would fit Martz style exactly but would still get pressed alot at the Line. They have other needs to fill.

Wait, it is Matt Millen ;D Let's go Billy get 'R' done.

[DBroncos4life]

Williams, Mike
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Player Info
Draft Info

WR (#)
Year: 2005

Detroit Lions
Round: 1

Tampa, FL
Position: 10

Salary History

2005 230000.00
2006 350000.00
2007 600000.00
2008 885000.00
2009 975000.00
2010 560000.00

Rogers, Charles
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Player Info
Draft Info

WR (#)
Year: 2003

Detroit Lions
Round: 1

Northville, MI
Position: 2

Salary History

2003 975000.00
2004 305417.00
2005 514167.00
2006 757917.00
2007 966667.00
2008 1310417.00
2009 1210417.00

who would you trade fo?

[DrFate]

Mike Williams - horribly overrated
Charles Rogers - horribly injury prone

I'd call it a push

[Nuggets4]

Weren't there a lot of rumors that Shanny REALLY wanted Williams last year in the draft? I loved watching him play in college, and would happily take him now.

[DarkHorse]

Williams over Rodgers all day - how is Williams a bust? He's playing for Detroit for Christ sake!


Rodgers hits the bong a lil too much for me - hell, he'd probably chip a tooth toking on the bong and be out for 6-10 weeks.

[Clockwork Orange]

I'd take Mike Williams from them without much hesitation. It depends on what they want for him.

And no, Ashley Lelie would not be a part of that deal because he wouldn't be the #1 receiver in Detroit either.

[elsid13]

Remember Williams has put on a lot of weight this off season- about 250 pounds- and it ain't muscle.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I'd take Mike Williams from them without much hesitation. It depends on what they want for him.

And no, Ashley Lelie would not be a part of that deal because he wouldn't be the #1 receiver in Detroit either.
So we need to trade him to the CFL for some ...... I dont realy know. What do Canadians have that is worth something?

[elsid13]

So we need to trade him to the CFL for some ...... I dont realy know. What do Canadians have that is worth something?


So your looking for a pound of polar bears meat and a couple of cases of Canadian finest- Black Label Beer.

[Conklin]

So your looking for a pound of polar bears meat and a couple of cases of Canadian finest- Black Label Beer.

why ask for too much, just take the beer and run before they change their mind

[kamakazi_kal]

rodgers is just one big injury the guy just cant stay on the field but as a #3he may be a good fit
if williams came aboard i would like to see him switch to TE

[SureShot]

If Mike Williams would embrace an Hback role he will have a fine Career. I do not think he has the leaping/athletic ability to be a dominant wideout. I think we are set at WR in any case with Terrell, JW, Rod. I think one of Watts, Marshall, Hixon will also emerge as a slot guy.


http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/tim_layden/01/03/layden.insider/p1_williams2_all.jpg

[WABronco]

I'd take Mike Williams from them without much hesitation. It depends on what they want for him.

And no, Ashley Lelie would not be a part of that deal because he wouldn't be the #1 receiver in Detroit either.

IMO, when he says he wants to "compete for the no.1" he means he wants to start. There was an snippet from PFW that said he wasn't opposed to playing in Denver or for Shanahan, he just doesn't want to be the no. 3 (I'll see if I can find the link).

He'd most likely start in Detroit...

[elsid13]

why ask for too much, just take the beer and run before they change their mind


You must not every had black label. Trust me take the polar bear meat

[watermock]

Black Label will make you gag even if it's icy cold. If someone comes over you want to leave, hand them a semi cool Black Label, cool enough it doesn't feel warm. It's absolutely horrible. Believe it or not, Milwalkee Ice is actually decent and cheap, it's actually Icehouse. Regular and Lite are swill.

I would love to get Mike Williams for Lelie. We could convert him to TE/H-back or make him drop the fat. His contract wouldn't be a problem at all. The Lions are on the hook for the signing bonus. Alot of us liked him alot, David Terrell too. WR's are just as hard to judge as QB's. Don't tell me Harrington doesn't have talent, that's just a screwed up organization. Till they get rid of Millen they will suck. It's a revolving door at head coach too.

[-Slap-]

I never understood the fascination with Mike Williams as a high first round pick. I still think Vincent Jackson is a better long term prospect.

[Tombstone RJ]

Trade Lelie and a draft pick to Detroit for Williams...

[eddie mac]

Change Charles to Shaun and you've got a deal Mr Martz.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235240

Now how good would he look like beside Mr Warren???

[-Slap-]

Trade Lelie and a draft pick to Detroit for Williams...
Why?

Williams has done nothing and Brandon Marshall already gives us everything he does and more, for way less money.

[WABronco]

Change Charles to Shaun and you've got a deal Mr Martz.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235240

Now how good would he look like beside Mr Warren???
Lol, he's their best defensive player. Nothing wrong with aiming high though!:)

[WABronco]

Why?

Williams has done nothing and Brandon Marshall already gives us everything he does and more, for way less money.
Agreed. Rogers has elite talent when he's not injured or suspended.

[-Slap-]

Agreed. Rogers has elite talent when he's not injured or suspended.
Don't take my lukewarm interest in Williams to be an endorsement of Rogers. I have no interest in him or his buttery soft collarbones.

[WABronco]

Don't take my lukewarm interest in Williams to be an endorsement of Rogers. I have no interest in him or his buttery soft collarbones.
Lol, that's what I thought.8')

[-Slap-]

Lol, that's what I thought.8')
Cole Hamels available in any of your leagues? Might not be a bad idea to get in on the grouind floor on this one.

[watermock]

I was high on Shaun Rodgers out of the draft. Man, the Lions keep getting very high picks and they keep busting.

[WABronco]

:~ohyah!: Cole Hamels available in any of your leagues? Might not be a bad idea to get in on the grouind floor on this one.
Shhhhhhhhh...

I hope to God that DB31 (the guy from Philly) wasn't watching their game today, cuz I've already got a waiver claim in.:~ohyah!:

[wabbit]

I really like Mike Williams, but like slap said; that salary hit is just too much for the production he would would likely deliver.

Brandon Marshall is indeed intriguing, but I just get the feeling the guy will be something of a project.

Maybe not, we'll see.