View Full Version : Lelie Hires new agents!
Conklin
05-09-2006, 10:02 AM
Broncos | Lelie hires new agents
Tue, 9 May 2006 07:04:04 -0700
Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos WR Ashley Lelie has hired Denver agents Peter Schaffer and Lamont Smith. The move became official Sunday, May 7, after a five-day waiting period after the firing of Lelie's prior representation. Schaffer said a strategy hasn't completely been mapped out for Lelie. "We as a firm are honored to be retained by someone of Ashley's principle and character and plan on having discussions with the Broncos at a mutually convenient time in the near future to see where this matter goes," Schaffer said.
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Hotrod
05-09-2006, 10:09 AM
I thought he did that a couple of weeks ago???
watermock
05-09-2006, 10:09 AM
This happened days ago. I wonder if it's Walker's agent.
Rascal
05-09-2006, 10:10 AM
technically he wasnt' allowed to as there is a five day waiting period when switching agents. I don't know why I just found that out from Randy Moss's situation.
watermock
05-09-2006, 10:11 AM
I thought he did that a couple of weeks ago???
You have to wait a week to make it offical for some reason. I could give a rats ass. These PrimaDonnas are starting to piss me off.
Lelie will end up a fader.
55CrushEm
05-09-2006, 10:17 AM
When is Ashley going to realize that the problem is neither the Broncos organization, nor his previous agent.
The problem is his PRODUCTION.
Hey Ashley, maybe if you scored more than one TD last year, you'd be getting a little more respect.
12th man
05-09-2006, 10:48 AM
Lelie will end up a fader.
No way. Lelie wants to be the starter. He is not better than Moss. Hopefully he goes to a team we play, and he has to go across the middle, and waiting for him is John Lynch, ready to obliterate him.
Lelie=bug Lynch=windshield of fast moving car.
No way. Lelie wants to be the starter. He is not better than Moss. Hopefully he goes to a team we play, and he has to go across the middle, and waiting for him is John Lynch, ready to obliterate him.
Lelie=bug Lynch=windshield of fast moving car.
Either a fader or a chef.
Garcia Bronco
05-09-2006, 11:03 AM
didn't they use the Run & Shoot in Hawaii?
watermock
05-09-2006, 11:05 AM
Yeah, send him to Jerry Glanville or Dan Reeves. Ha!
Play2win
05-09-2006, 11:28 AM
isn't Schaffer supposed to have a pretty good working relationship with the Broncos?
Arkansas Bronco
05-09-2006, 11:31 AM
isn't Schaffer supposed to have a pretty good working relationship with the Broncos?
Lelie has already pissed me off so all I want to see him working is packing his stuff up and leaving. Even if he stays and has a decent year I will never like him again.
while Lelie's focus is working out in hopes that he'll no longer be a Bronco in 2006.
Javon Walker sat down with Michael Smith recently and discussed Brett Favre, his future in Denver and more.
Walker and Lelie figuratively were in the same place until the draft's first day, when the Green Bay Packers finally dealt their former first-round pick (2002) for the first (No. 37 overall) of Denver's two second-round picks. Walker says he decided not long after suffering his season-ending injury against Detroit in the first game last season that he would not play for the Packers again and shared those feelings with ESPN.com in March. Lelie reportedly wishes to be a team's No. 1 receiver and believes a trade is the best means to accommodate that wish. Like Walker last spring in Green Bay, Lelie is threatening to boycott practice until his demand is met, only Lelie's gripe is with catches and not cash, as was Walker's.
Now, as fate would have it, Walker and Lelie are teammates, the former having gained what the latter still covets: freedom, ironically at Lelie's expense. At one point, Walker says, they believed -- receivers do talk -- the right price for their services might be each other.
"At the time when I wanted out of Green Bay I was encouraging [Lelie, that] if he went to Green Bay, he would love it up there because it might be a better fit for him," Walker says. "He would love Green Bay. He would have loved the fans. He did the same thing about Denver, didn't bad-mouth them or anything.
"It's not like if a guy wants out of a certain team that he is going to go to another team and do the same thing . Certain [places] don't fit certain people."
Fit? Before pulling off the trade, Broncos coach Mike Shanahan told Walker that he believed the Packers' disgruntled receiver was the missing piece to Denver's Super Bowl puzzle. And Walker has the peace of mind his stepfather and his agent said he was missing his last days in Green Bay, not to mention a nice chunk of change.
"I feel relieved now," Walker says. "I feel like a big burden has been lifted off my shoulders. I'm happy with the situation now, I'm happy being in Denver. I hope I can provide for them what I provided for Green Bay."
Javon Walker
William E. Amatucci Jr./WireImage.com
Javon Walker played in only one game in 2005 before suffering a season-ending knee injury.
Walker has plenty of reasons to be content, considering he now has the ability to provide financially for his loved ones, friends and generations of Walkers to come. The Broncos and agent Kennard McGuire are finalizing a five-year extension (set to kick in next year) worth about $40 million that includes a $15 million, two-tiered option bonus, $10 million due in 2007 and the other $5 million due in '08. Walker will play out the final year of his rookie contract plus receive a $1 million roster bonus from the Broncos.
Walker will make close to $25 million in salary and bonuses over the first three years of the deal (2007-09), making him one of the highest-paid receivers in the game.
Not bad for a guy who played less than one game last year and is coming off a major injury. And it only took the threat of a holdout, criticism from his future Hall of Fame quarterback, a lost season, an agent change (from Drew Rosenhaus to McGuire), a promise to retire rather than play for the Packers again, and, finally, a two-day, three-city tour to get to this point.
Walker's feelings probably hurt worse than his knee last year after Packers quarterback Brett Favre spoke out against him, practically forcing Walker to cave even before staging his boycott. Worse, in Walker's mind, was that Favre's comments went unchecked by the organization, an example of the special treatment Favre received that Walker resented. Favre often was coached differently, which is to say sometimes not at all, Walker said.
"I mean, you know, who runs the team?" Walker says. "Anybody [else] they might have said something, but being that it was Brett they probably didn't know how to approach the situation."
The rift with Favre didn't drive Walker to want out of Green Bay, he said. Walker said he had more of a problem with several unnamed teammates privately gossiping about his contract situation and how it affected them than he did with Favre's public comments. Walker also had a problem with the procession of veterans having to leave (Darren Sharper, Mike Wahle, Marco Rivera, Mike McKenzie) or sit (Bubba Franks) in order to receive paydays, while the Packers wouldn't so much as discuss a possible renegotiation of the deal Walker signed in 2002.
Walker said he signed with Rosenhaus because of his aggressive reputation. He ultimately fired Rosenhaus because, Walker believed, that reputation was working against him.
"I felt like … the Packers … weren't gonna let me get what I want dealing with Drew," he said. "I had a feeling that they would be stubborn towards me just because Drew is my agent. Even during the course of the season, 'When are you going to fire Drew? When are you going to fire Drew? When are you going to fire Drew?'"
Walker said he has no lingering resentment toward Favre. In fact he'd like an autographed No. 4 jersey to hang in his home.
"Shoot, if Brett went to another team, another organization," Walker says, "I can go play with him."
At first, Green Bay wasn't willing to play ball, denying Walker and his agent's request to seek a trade, which led to his retirement threat.
"I believe that God had a plan for me so something would have, eventually, happened. That's what I was trusting in," Walker says.
Then, just days before the draft, the Packers sent Walker to visit and undergo physicals with prospective trade partners New Orleans, Denver and Philadelphia. The Dolphins and Chiefs also were talking to Green Bay, but weren't able to get their hands on the receiver to check out his knee.
Walker is working toward completing his degree in social sciences from Florida State and was about to take a 10 a.m. final the Thursday before the draft when McGuire called to tell him he had no choice but to miss the test in favor of making a flight. The night before Walker had spoken to Shanahan, who confirmed the Broncos' long-reported interest but still had doubts about whether a trade would be consummated.
On the morning of April 27, Walker boarded a flight from Tallahassee, Fla., through Miami and on to New Orleans. He arrived in Denver late that night.
Walker had brunch with Shanahan on Friday the 28th and the coach went so far as to bring Walker to his home to meet his wife. It excited Walker to hear Shanahan's plans for how he'd use him opposite Rod Smith.
"Deep down I knew that [Denver] would be a perfect fit for me," Walker says. "That's what I've always wanted, to go into a game knowing that the ball club is trying to figure out a way to get the ball to Javon Walker."
If not for Shanahan's, ahem, delaying him, Walker would have continued to New England that afternoon. He instead traveled to Philadelphia and watched the early part of the draft at the Eagles' facility. This thing went down to the wire. Walker was in the Philadelphia airport about to fly to Boston, still set to visit the Patriots, when he got a call from a couple of buddies informing him that he'd been dealt to Denver.
Walker knows the deal. It's up to him to prove that he was worth a second-round pick and $40 million after only one Pro Bowl season (2004).
Walker, who rehabs from about 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. each day, promises to be ready for the start of training camp. This season he hopes to make headlines of a different sort.
"Each and every week you pick up the paper," he says, "you're going to see Javon doing something with Denver." [B]:bronxrox: :bronxrox:
Arkie
05-09-2006, 11:44 AM
Does this mean that Lelie will shut down his L&L Hawaiian Barbecue (http://www.hawaiianbarbecue.com/) in Denver?
-Slap-
05-09-2006, 11:44 AM
"Deep down Javon Walker knew that [Denver] would be a perfect fit for Javon Walker," Walker says. "That's what Javon Walker always wanted, to go into a game knowing that the ball club is trying to figure out a way to get the ball to Javon Walker."
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GreatWhiteBronco
05-09-2006, 11:55 AM
it's totally amazing to think that back in the day Randy Moss played completely through his rookie contract without a single peep... they promised to redo his contract before the final year, they didn't, and you didn't hear a single word out of him about it. y'know with Randy's reputation and all, it's pretty confusing that he never really gets any respect for doing that from the media or the fans.
Master___Pain
05-09-2006, 12:05 PM
Either a fader or a chef.
Not if Shannahan has anything to say about it. There is NO chance Shanny ships him within the division, hell it might not even be in the AFC. Now, once Lelie has a chance to sign with someone after the 2006 season, then maybe he'll go to a division rival, but as long as he's under contract with the broncos and they can dictate where he ends up, it won't be the chiefs or raiders.
Requiem
05-09-2006, 12:10 PM
Even if Ashley leaves, I'll still love 'em.
bendog
05-09-2006, 12:13 PM
Thank God. Now shanny can get on with the masterplan of converting Lelie to a pass rushing DE.
55CrushEm
05-09-2006, 12:14 PM
Deep thoughts.......a man should never be named "Ashley".....
broncsyanks
05-09-2006, 12:17 PM
Deep thoughts.......a man should never be named "Ashley".....
LMFAO!! I thought the same exact thing!!!
great post!!
tell his new agents that we want him to sit out and hurt his own value.
we are in the strong bargaining position here not him
Requiem
05-09-2006, 12:18 PM
Bashing his name, very classy guys.
Phantom
05-09-2006, 12:26 PM
Chiefs, Eagles, Patriots, Packers, Dolphins perhaps.
Wouldn't it be funny if he ended up with the Bears?
Tredici
05-09-2006, 12:32 PM
Even if Ashley leaves, I'll still love 'em.
'em?
Is there more than one of him or are you referring to body parts which have duplicates?
Requiem
05-09-2006, 12:34 PM
Ashley and his legs. They're so fast, they make me randy.
bendog
05-09-2006, 12:37 PM
.... Ashley Wilkes ... biggest pussy in any movie ever. Gone with the Wind. Ironically, he was played by Leslie Howard, which is also a pussy sounding name, but Howard not only served in WWI where he was shell shocked, but he also lost his life in WWII when his plane was shot down by Nazis.
Atlas
05-09-2006, 12:46 PM
Lelie's new agent, Schaffer, is very respectable and has a good relationship with the Broncos. I think this will make it easier for a settlement to be reached and to get Lelie into camp.
cabronco
05-09-2006, 12:53 PM
To me and no disrespect than what he already deserves....Ashley has always looked kind of on the feminine side. He's pretty close to having a chicks face. Even with the helmet on... A bit disturbing !
12th man
05-09-2006, 01:57 PM
Chiefs, Eagles, Patriots, Packers, Dolphins perhaps.
Wouldn't it be funny if he ended up with the Bears?
He's going to end up on a crappy team with a crappy offense. If he wants to play somwhere where he will be named starter, it's going to be a sh1tty team needing an offensive weopon, and with no one that compete with Ashley. he won't go to the bears cause they have Muhamid. (sp). Dolphins have pretty good wr's, packers don't want him/ Who is the starting wr in Philly? ah, dosn't matter any way, that who offense is about passing and sooner or later competition at the position will show up there, so Lelie won't like that. Didn't the pats want him? that might be good for him, but again sooner or later competiion will arive there, and he'll fold. he could be a cheif, but who cares, cause he would be on a team, with an aging O, and always missing the playoffs, and has to play us twice a year, and see what he gave up to be a number one wr. Instead of being on the best team of the west, he is on a team that has a hard time making the playoffs, let a lone win a playoff game, and the Super Bowl is out of the question there. Plus he would have to battle with Kenninson for the number one spot:rofl:
But I can see him with the 49er's. He could be the starter there from day one, there is no competition for him there, and he is in a state sort of like hawaii, with the ocean, sun, and beaches, and such. I could see him there.
ludo21
05-09-2006, 02:02 PM
"Deep down I knew that [Denver] would be a perfect fit for me," Walker says. "That's what I've always wanted, to go into a game knowing that the ball club is trying to figure out a way to get the ball to Javon Walker."
not another chump who talks in 3rd person...................
as long as he produces i guess.
bendog
05-09-2006, 02:18 PM
I wonder if it's sunk in yet that at 6-3, 215, Javon's the biggest of the 3 WRs, Lelie cannot work out of a slot very well, so if somebody's gonna have to pick off one of Pitt's linebackers, it's his day in the barrell.
With all the Ashlie love going on here. Anyone want to buy an authentic, autographed alternative Lelie jersey?
first $100.00 offer gets it. You pay actual shipping though :)
'em?
Is there more than one of him or are you referring to body parts which have duplicates?
You have a way of making it sound so dirty... LMAO
SportinOne
05-09-2006, 02:38 PM
So Walker demands a trade because he wants more money after one good season, and Ashley demands a trade because he wants more playing time.
I can understand being frustrated with Lelie in this situation, but how is Walker any better? Let's put talent aside, and look at this from a character standpoint.. If anything, what Walker did was worse than what Lelie is doing, and yet Lelie get's constantly critisized and Walker is god.
That said, i would love for Ashley to come to his senses and realize the potential that this offense has this year, and also in the coming years with him, walker, and cutler... If he doesn't, how bout we send him to Miami for Chris Chambers. We'd have to throw in the 32nd overall pick in the 2007 draft but that'd be fine with me..
Atlas
05-09-2006, 02:45 PM
With all the Ashlie love going on here. Anyone want to buy an authentic, autographed alternative Lelie jersey?
first $100.00 offer gets it. You pay actual shipping though :)
Give ya $20 you pay shipping
footstepsfrom#27
05-09-2006, 03:13 PM
Minnesota's a good fit for him. It's one of the few places he can go with the possibility of being a #1. They're a turf team as well, so his speed ought to be a better assett and they've had Moss so they've seen prima donna's bigger than him. Wonder if he can beat out this bunch?
Travis Taylor- 50 catches, 604 yards, 12.1 ypc, 4 TD's
Marcus Robinson, 31 catches, 515 yards, 16.6 ypc, 5 TD's
Troy Williamson, 24 catches, 372 yards, 15.5 ypc, 2 TD's
Koren Robinson- 22 catches, 347 yards, 15.8 ypc, 1 TD's
Conklin
05-09-2006, 03:24 PM
Minnesota's a good fit for him. It's one of the few places he can go with the possibility of being a #1. They're a turf team as well, so his speed ought to be a better assett and they've had Moss so they've seen prima donna's bigger than him. Wonder if he can beat out this bunch?
Travis Taylor- 50 catches, 604 yards, 12.1 ypc, 4 TD's
Marcus Robinson, 31 catches, 515 yards, 16.6 ypc, 5 TD's
Troy Williamson, 24 catches, 372 yards, 15.5 ypc, 2 TD's
Koren Robinson- 22 catches, 347 yards, 15.8 ypc, 1 TD's
nope, i wouldnt be surprised if BVP equals or betters Ash's td's this year yet once again
DarkHorse30
05-09-2006, 04:31 PM
Lelie's new agent, Schaffer, is very respectable and has a good relationship with the Broncos. I think this will make it easier for a settlement to be reached and to get Lelie into camp.
I like your optimism. Wouldn't it be funny if this was a test between Walker and Lelie (assuming they really are pals) to find out what Denver would do if Lelie made some noise about wanting a better deal/scenario? IMO, Denver passed the test. Of course I am a biased observer, but no player or coach ripped Lelie for his words. Rod Smith supports him, Plummer supports him, etc. etc.
In other words...no bridges have been torched just yet.
What is a threatened holdout? Seems to me like the support beams are on fire.
watermock
05-09-2006, 05:01 PM
I like your optimism. Wouldn't it be funny if this was a test between Walker and Lelie (assuming they really are pals) to find out what Denver would do if Lelie made some noise about wanting a better deal/scenario? IMO, Denver passed the test. Of course I am a biased observer, but no player or coach ripped Lelie for his words. Rod Smith supports him, Plummer supports him, etc. etc.
In other words...no bridges have been torched just yet.
You obviously didn't see Lelie's last press conference. Noone on the Broncos burned bridges, Lelie did.
broncosteven
05-09-2006, 05:05 PM
.... Ashley Wilkes ... biggest p***Y in any movie ever. Gone with the Wind. Ironically, he was played by Leslie Howard, which is also a p***Y sounding name, but Howard not only served in WWI where he was shell shocked, but he also lost his life in WWII when his plane was shot down by Nazis.
Leslie also played the lead in Somerset Maughaum's Of Human Bondage where he played an even bigger pussy getting pushed around by Betty "I don't mind" Davis & he also got pushed around by Bogy in an early ganster pic again with Davis I belive. I liked Maughaum & he knew how women could derail certian men from their origial life's goals but I think the Razors Edge was his best work & one of my all time favorite books.
broncosteven
05-09-2006, 05:06 PM
I say we trade him for a pick next year or for D-line help late in camp. Get something for him now if he is not going to be around.
DomCasual
05-09-2006, 05:15 PM
"Deep down I knew that [Denver] would be a perfect fit for me," Walker says. "That's what I've always wanted, to go into a game knowing that the ball club is trying to figure out a way to get the ball to Javon Walker."
Uh-oh. Third-person speaker! Third-person speaker! NO! When an athlete starts referring to himself in the third person, it almost always is a bad sign!
DomCasual don't like people talking about themselves in the third person. DomCasual thinks it sounds silly and pretentious.
broncosteven
05-09-2006, 05:16 PM
Uh-oh. Third-person speaker! Third-person speaker! NO! When an athlete starts referring to himself in the third person, it almost always is a bad sign!
DomCasual don't like people talking about themselves in the third person. DomCasual thinks it sounds silly and pretentious.
Just Domcasual being Domcasual
DomCasual
05-09-2006, 05:17 PM
Just Domcasual being Domcasual
Word!
watermock
05-09-2006, 05:19 PM
Mock doesn't tolerate this at all.
BIM don't thinks BIM likes it neither
Arkie
05-09-2006, 06:59 PM
Deep thoughts.......a man should never be named "Ashley".....
Haven't you heard about the boy named Sue (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/aboynamedsue.html)?
Popps
05-09-2006, 07:42 PM
Can't wait to watch Walker tear it up in our offense.
Lelie can pound sand. Funny how his camp has shrunk down to nothing around here.
We're getting the best of this swap, folks. Wait and see.
broncosteven
05-09-2006, 08:52 PM
BIM don't thinks BIM likes it neither
Who is BIM?
broncosteven
05-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Can't wait to watch Walker tear it up in our offense.
Lelie can pound sand. Funny how his camp has shrunk down to nothing around here.
We're getting the best of this swap, folks. Wait and see.
I agree. I have been watching Walker tear up Duh Bears for years & could not wait to see us get him! I only hope he is 100% before the season starts.
Cito Pelon
05-09-2006, 10:23 PM
Can't wait to watch Walker tear it up in our offense.
Lelie can pound sand. Funny how his camp has shrunk down to nothing around here.
We're getting the best of this swap, folks. Wait and see.
I'm definitely gonna wait and see. An ACL is a big deal for a WR. And let's see if there is protection in the contract. What I'm seeing is there is no protection for the Broncos, just a little less money than was first offered. Could be a bad deal, could be a good one, have to wait and see.
fontaine
05-10-2006, 02:20 AM
I'm definitely gonna wait and see. An ACL is a big deal for a WR. And let's see if there is protection in the contract. What I'm seeing is there is no protection for the Broncos, just a little less money than was first offered. Could be a bad deal, could be a good one, have to wait and see.
Walker with ACL injury > Lelie with no heart