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ludo21
05-07-2006, 12:38 PM
DAl vs. SA is going to be a fun series to watch.

Im sure Llama will be here shortly to reign on Nashs parade ;D

minibronco
05-07-2006, 12:42 PM
Argh. At least LA has some representation.

ludo21
05-07-2006, 12:58 PM
time for Laker fans to jump on to the Clippers bandwagon it seems....Ha!

must be nice having 2 teams in the town so you can pick and choose.

GonzoLays
05-07-2006, 01:20 PM
I will watch with much pleasure as the Spurs once again take out the Mavs in the playoffs. Maybe the Mavericks should make second round T-shirts to commemorate the achievement.

Dirk will be exposed again as a one trick jump shooter in the playoffs. We can only hope he throws another hissy fit on the court and starts yelling at Jet Terry. Because as we all know, Dirk does not handle the pressure of the playoffs very well.

minibronco
05-07-2006, 01:21 PM
time for Laker fans to jump on to the Clippers bandwagon it seems....Ha!

must be nice having 2 teams in the town so you can pick and choose.

Heck ya! LOL :thanku: Why do you think we want 2 NFL teams? :strong: :approve:

ludo21
05-07-2006, 01:33 PM
Fun game, Mavs looked lost on the offensive side of the ball.

ludo21
05-07-2006, 01:39 PM
Didnt they JUST come out of a TO???

Stackhouse is a vet as well, what an idiot!

RhymesayersDU
05-07-2006, 01:50 PM
I cannot believe the balls that Stackhouse has. Steps back to the 3-point line? Yikes. As was stated by the guys calling the game, he should have just taken the 2-pointer.

Great game. All Maverick/angryllama smack aside, I thought this would be the game the Mavs could take, with them being very well rested after their sweep, and SA coming off a game on Friday. There might be some concern that they dropped it.

freak6
05-07-2006, 01:55 PM
I think the Mavs will win it. I really think that Avery Johnson just got outcoached the last 5 minutes though. The Spurs got some really good looks and should have beaten them worse.

epicSocialism4tw
05-07-2006, 03:40 PM
I think the Mavs will win it. I really think that Avery Johnson just got outcoached the last 5 minutes though. The Spurs got some really good looks and should have beaten them worse.

Avery hasnt gotten that art down yet. He doesnt know how to effectively work the refs like Pop and the Whiny Floppers do, and he isnt getting favorable matchups for his players down the stretch. That last play was called for Stackhouse. Why go to that guy when Terry and Dirk have been so great late for Dallas? stackhouse rewarded his trust by stepping back into an impossible shot when he could have easily found Josh Howard standing right beside him.

Avery will have to start being more assertive with the officials. Watching a Spurs game is like watching the old buddy Spurs and their old buddy officials have a conference on how they can circumvent fair play to get the officiating advantage. Avery needs to consistently get in there and bust that stuff up. He needs to let the refs know that he's there too, and that when his guys break down the perimeter only to get slammed in the restricted area by the rotating defenders, that they need to get the same calls that the Spurs get. This game was so close that every one of those plays matter. If Avery needs to get a tech to make his point, then that's what he needs to do.

The Mavs were in position to take game 1 on the road. The flubbed up a last second play (Stack is an idiot), and lost. The Mavs did look rusty and the Spurs looked crisp. For the Mavs to win the series, they are going to need better showings from Dirk, Howard, and Terry who all had sub-par second halves on the offensive end. Dirk had a great game rebounding and defending, but he's going to have to start getting to the line more if his shot is not falling. His team needs him to score too. Howard and Dirk both had excellent first halves. Terry just never showed up.

Howard completely disappeared in the second half. He has this really bad habit of being an unpredictably streaky player. His streak ended when the second half whistle blew. He rebounded well for his position and played okay on Ginobili, but he's got to be the guy that takes advantage of the mismatch afforded with Horry covering him on the perimeter. This matchup will decide the series. His 5 turnovers beat Dallas. They need him to beat his man and get to the basket, not lose the ball on traveling violations and bad handling displays.

ludo21
05-08-2006, 11:03 PM
Good game right now, Suns winning, but Clipps can get right back in it with the Suns D.

GOO SUNSS!

SoCalBronco
05-08-2006, 11:07 PM
Brand is raping, but the Suns look like they will win this one.

ludo21
05-08-2006, 11:09 PM
Brand is raping, but the Suns look like they will win this one.


Yeah i knew he would, we have no post player to guard him. But he can go off and as long as we contain Sam and the rest, we should do well in this series.

yavoon
05-08-2006, 11:26 PM
its possible the suns will torch the regular season next year. man thats gna be one amazing regular season team.

amare
kurt
marion
raja
nash

first wave of subs:
diaw
barbosa
house

though if they replaced house I wouldn't cry. his greatest attribute is he can shoot off the dribble, but man he jacks up so many shots.

ludo21
05-08-2006, 11:30 PM
its possible the suns will torch the regular season next year. man thats gna be one amazing regular season team.

amare
kurt
marion
raja
nash

im not that far yet. Im still enjoying this season, the POST season.

They have a great chance to get to the Conf Finals, and once they get there, who knows???

Great win tonight, take care of home court this time.

Finger Roll
05-08-2006, 11:31 PM
and barbosa and maybe Tim Thomas off the bench. They'll be awsome.

yavoon
05-08-2006, 11:32 PM
im not that far yet. Im still enjoying this season, the POST season.

They have a great chance to get to the Conf Finals, and once they get there, who knows???

Great win tonight, take care of home court this time.

yah well unfortunately that defense they wont win the big prize. next year though they get 1 proven inside defender(kurt) and 1 guy who should be great but isnt that dedicated to defense yet(amare).

ludo21
05-08-2006, 11:36 PM
yah well unfortunately that defense they wont win the big prize. next year though they get 1 proven inside defender(kurt) and 1 guy who should be great but isnt that dedicated to defense yet(amare).


yeah, if they keep Kurt around.....and i hope they do... they will have a real solid front court.

Still no true Center, but o well.

yavoon
05-08-2006, 11:41 PM
yeah, if they keep Kurt around.....and i hope they do... they will have a real solid front court.

Still no true Center, but o well.

I'm not sure what u mean true center. u mean defensive shot blocker? amare could be. u mean 1on1 post defender? kurt or amare can. now amare is more potential than reality right now, so it will be interesting to see how much he cares about defense w/ the suns.

ludo21
05-08-2006, 11:43 PM
Amare doesnt like guarding Centers. And he considers himself a PF. Just like Marion doesnt like guarding big guys.

But thats the way it is, and as Amare is just about dont growing, he should be a lot bigger next year and be able to step up and play the bigger Centers in this league.

yavoon
05-08-2006, 11:48 PM
Amare doesnt like guarding Centers. And he considers himself a PF. Just like Marion doesnt like guarding big guys.

But thats the way it is, and as Amare is just about dont growing, he should be a lot bigger next year and be able to step up and play the bigger Centers in this league.

yah well amare needs to suck it the **** up. he doesnt "like" guarding centers? he's a frigging manchild freak of nature and he's still a pussy!

sides his face up game is more dominating vs centers than it is vs other quicker PF's.

yavoon
05-09-2006, 12:05 AM
seriously though they can do it like this next year. let kurt guard the talented post player and let amare guard the bad one. even though this can be the center quite often I dont see what there is to complain about.

ro_50
05-09-2006, 08:31 AM
Avery will have to start being more assertive with the officials. Watching a Spurs game is like watching the old buddy Spurs and their old buddy officials have a conference on how they can circumvent fair play to get the officiating advantage.

Officiating advantage, the Free throws were almost even, the Mavs shot 28 and the Spurs shot 30.

And the Spurs didnt play a crisp game, were we watching the same game?

And Mark Cuban does enough whining to the refs to make up for the AJ's lack of yelling at the refs.

Stop this nonsense about the officiating, what is it with Mavs fans. They almost won game 1 and despite not playing their best game and have a great chance to win this series but please stop making this into an officiating thing.

Darkhawk24
05-09-2006, 08:35 AM
I was rooting for whomever played the Lakers. Now I just watch when I'm waiting for Sports Center to come on.

epicSocialism4tw
05-09-2006, 02:53 PM
Officiating advantage, the Free throws were almost even, the Mavs shot 28 and the Spurs shot 30.

And the Spurs didnt play a crisp game, were we watching the same game?

And Mark Cuban does enough whining to the refs to make up for the AJ's lack of yelling at the refs.

Stop this nonsense about the officiating, what is it with Mavs fans. They almost won game 1 and despite not playing their best game and have a great chance to win this series but please stop making this into an officiating thing.


I'll count how many times the Spurs pull the "who, me?" foul conference after fouls and we'll compare them after the game. Maybe I'll also tabulate Ginobili and Bowen flops.

Master___Pain
05-09-2006, 03:00 PM
I'll count how many times the Spurs pull the "who, me?" foul conference after fouls and we'll compare them after the game. Maybe I'll also tabulate Ginobili and Bowen flops.

Very, very true. The Spurs are the kings at teh "Who me?" shrugging of the shoulders antic. I don't want to even talk about Flopu Ginosebly...I'll start having flashbacks to the series against the Nuggs last year.

ludo21
05-09-2006, 03:05 PM
Very, very true. The Spurs are the kings at teh "Who me?" shrugging of the shoulders antic. I don't want to even talk about Flopu Ginosebly...I'll start having flashbacks to the series against the Nuggs last year.


so true.

But if the Mavs are the superior team, they will win. IF not then they will lost, pretty simple.

Master___Pain
05-09-2006, 03:16 PM
so true.

But if the Mavs are the superior team, they will win. IF not then they will lost, pretty simple.

Also very true. The better team will win that series. I am actually rooting for Dallas to win that match-up. Unfortunately for the western conference, I don't feel like anyone can beat the Pistons in a best of 7 this year. They are cruising right now and woke up after game one in their first series.

ro_50
05-09-2006, 03:48 PM
I'll count how many times the Spurs pull the "who, me?" foul conference after fouls and we'll compare them after the game. Maybe I'll also tabulate Ginobili and Bowen flops.

Umm, lets do keep a running tally because every star in the league and most of the players bitch about the calls. TD does it, Dirk does it, LeBron does it, Kobe does it and others as well. It amazing how people discredit the Spurs, you know, who gives a shi*. I'm tired of people complaining about the way they play and complain about the calls. I guess that what happens when every team out West is jealous and envious of their position.

Like I said, I respect the heck out of Dallas and they are even w/ San Antonio but to undermine the Spurs and complain about the officiating is just flat out laughable to me.

yavoon
05-09-2006, 05:47 PM
the cavs need to start salvaging some respect here pretty soon.

Jori
05-09-2006, 06:54 PM
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/spo/med/2006/05/ipt/1147178924.jpgTimmay is ready :wiggle:

The Big E
05-09-2006, 07:03 PM
so true.

But if the Mavs are the superior team, they will win. IF not then they will lost, pretty simple.
Yep. The best team always (or very close to it) wins a 7 game series. The Suns-Lakers series showed that, as the Lakers scrubs returned to form as the series unfolded.

I don't think the Spurs complain any more than anyone else, but they really are annoying, so I understand the gripes. They also bore me to tears, despite their excellence. They're kind of like the "Up With People" team of the NBA, and they really could use some edginess.

Still, it's hard to see them losing before the finals, unfortunately. The NBA probably doesn't want them there because they aren't exactly ratings-grabbers.

The Big E
05-09-2006, 07:04 PM
the cavs need to start salvaging some respect here pretty soon.
I think the Peter Principle is in effect. They're in over their heads now.

ludo21
05-09-2006, 07:07 PM
Yep. The best team always (or very close to it) wins a 7 game series. The Suns-Lakers series showed that, as the Lakers scrubs returned to form as the series unfolded.

I don't think the Spurs complain any more than anyone else, but they really are annoying, so I understand the gripes. They also bore me to tears, despite their excellence. They're kind of like the "Up With People" team of the NBA, and they really could use some edginess.

Still, it's hard to see them losing before the finals, unfortunately. The NBA probably doesn't want them there because they aren't exactly ratings-grabbers.


Thats part of the reason i want them to lose, they are boring, and plus the Suns have a better shot at beating the Mavs if they get that far. JMO

But even vs the Spurs, maybe the Suns stand a chance. They pushed it to 7 games last year....but that was with all of our all stars.

Cavs cant beat the Pistons unless Detroit takes a game off, just no chance.

bombay
05-09-2006, 07:09 PM
Ginobili's flopping is beyond irritating, but ultimately the better team will win the series.

The Big E
05-09-2006, 07:11 PM
Thats part of the reason i want them to lose, they are boring, and plus the Suns have a better shot at beating the Mavs if they get that far. JMO

But even vs the Spurs, maybe the Suns stand a chance. They pushed it to 7 games last year....but that was with all of our all stars.

Cavs cant beat the Pistons unless Detroit takes a game off, just no chance.
The Suns players sure are fit. I keep thinking they'll run out of gas, and instead they go out and score 130. I can't get my hopes up too high because when I do the rug gets pulled out from under. At least that's my experience over the past 30 years. ;D

jossjeff
05-09-2006, 08:29 PM
****ing A the Suns can shoot.

Did they miss a 3 or a free throw the entire night?

The hideous thing is the Clippers played pretty well offensively, Brand and Cassell both got off but the suns were just machines from 3 point land.

Ok new defensive strategy called for, let Nash score, stop everyone else. Everytime Nash drove we double teamed him and they passed around for the wide open 3.

That **** can't happen again. The Suns just don't miss enough shots.

On the other hand a team of jump shooters has to go cold sometimes....right?

Offensively we need to keep doing what we were doing, pound it in, the Suns have no answer for Brand.

1 game but I'm afraid now.

ro_50
05-09-2006, 08:57 PM
Mavs are kicking the Spurs tail right now. The Mavs deserve to be up by this much and the Spurs are playing lousy.

ludo21
05-09-2006, 10:30 PM
big win here for the mavs.

splitting it in SA is very good!

epicSocialism4tw
05-10-2006, 12:10 AM
big win here for the mavs.

splitting it in SA is very good!


Not just a big win, but a resounding complete victory. 22 points on SA's own floor. A 20 point lead was maintained from midway through the second quarter on. SA is beat up and beat down after that one. I cant say that Im disappointed that Ginobili hurt himself with his signature lane-basket-flail.

SA has the indominable will of a champion. There is no doubt that they will be scrapping to the death in game 3. I expect a full 7 games.

Im proud of my Mavs though. Great game all-around. Avery made some adjustments that caught Pop off-guard. Devin Harris had a free pass to the rim when the pick n roll defenders hung with Dirk. He found a way to exploit their defensive rotation on the pick n roll. Let Dirk be a decoy, and let your lightning-fast guard take and make layups.

Josh Howard had a nice game as well. He needs to start making smart choices with the ball. He freewheels a bit too much and gets blinders on in the fast break, but he was tenacious and played better defense on Ginobili than anyone did on him. As I mentioned before the series, Josh is the X factor. Unfortunately, Josh has been very inconsistent over his career. He'll have a 27/9 night and follow it up with a 12/5 night. He needs to start playing smart and balanced. When he does, Dirk will have a true #2 star player and you can start wrapping up division championships.

Devin Harris repeated a performance that he had in the Mavs/Spurs first matchup of the season where he got free trips to the rim in the 4th (as the defense focused on Dirk), and Dallas won by 20. Devin is a special talent with a special future. He's got all-star skills. Avery called him the best defender on the team earlier in the season. Couple that with a nearly unstoppable offensive game and you have an al-star point guard. With he, Howard, Daniels, Diop, and Mbenga growing up alongside young vets Dirk and Terry, Dallas is looking solid for years to come.

Dirk had a great all-around game. He played excellent transition defense and guarded the perimeter very well. He rebounded well and shot an efficient 7-11 for 21 points. His encouragement and challenge of his teammates to rise to the occasion obviously worked. Way to go Dirk. Awesome game.

Stackhouse had a nice bounce back game. I cringed every time that he tossed up a corner three, but for once this season they went in more often then they didnt. I hate to see Stack take jumpers. There is nothing worse to see in a Mavs game because there are usually three guys on the floor who can shoot jumpers much more efficiently than Stack can. He should be going to the rim every time he gets the ball. Stack is tough though. He's a fierce competitor, and he comes to play in big games. Im glad hes a Mav.

See ya in game 3 Spurs fans. Home court now belongs to Dallas. Can they hold it? Can the Spurs stay healthy? How will Pop adjust to Avery's point guard change? Will Ginobili come out of Howard's shadow? If Pop tracks the guards, who will cover Dirk? Will the Mavs centers continue with the foul trouble? Who will win the battle of I-35?

What a great series this one should be. The powers of the west slugging it out toe to toe. Duncan and Dirk, Ginobili and Howard, Pop and Avery, Parker and Harris, Bench v. Bench. I cant wait for game 3.

Clockwork Orange
05-10-2006, 12:11 AM
I see that the Steve Javie/Nick Van Exel feud rages on to this day.

epicSocialism4tw
05-10-2006, 12:20 AM
I see that the Steve Javie/Nick Van Exel feud rages on to this day.

Yep. NVE has always had those problems. I dont like his reaction to the non-call. You dont do that to your team in a game that important.

He's a bit-part player. He's not going to get 3 free throws on a 50/50 call in what amounts to the Western Finals. I felt bad for him after the ejection, because at that point it became official that Van Exel has lost the ability to have a significant impact on the game. He will forever be resigned to 0-10 minute per game performances. I know that he has had some bad seasons before this one, but it's saddening to me to see a guy's career go down the tubes.

ro_50
05-10-2006, 05:58 AM
Yep. NVE has always had those problems. I dont like his reaction to the non-call. You dont do that to your team in a game that important.

He's a bit-part player. He's not going to get 3 free throws on a 50/50 call in what amounts to the Western Finals. I felt bad for him after the ejection, because at that point it became official that Van Exel has lost the ability to have a significant impact on the game. He will forever be resigned to 0-10 minute per game performances. I know that he has had some bad seasons before this one, but it's saddening to me to see a guy's career go down the tubes.


You may have good memories of NVE because when he was w/ the Mavs, he was a solid player for you guys but he's been brutal this year and its amazing that a coach like Pop still goes to him instead of Beno, who has played better when given the chance in the playoffs.

I'm glad he got tossed last night because he's not the player he once was. He's slow out there and his elbow has given him problems w/ his shooting.

ro_50
05-10-2006, 06:21 AM
Not just a big win, but a resounding complete victory. 22 points on SA's own floor. A 20 point lead was maintained from midway through the second quarter on. SA is beat up and beat down after that one. I cant say that Im disappointed that Ginobili hurt himself with his signature lane-basket-flail.

SA has the indominable will of a champion. There is no doubt that they will be scrapping to the death in game 3. I expect a full 7 games.

Im proud of my Mavs though. Great game all-around. Avery made some adjustments that caught Pop off-guard. Devin Harris had a free pass to the rim when the pick n roll defenders hung with Dirk. He found a way to exploit their defensive rotation on the pick n roll. Let Dirk be a decoy, and let your lightning-fast guard take and make layups.

Josh Howard had a nice game as well. He needs to start making smart choices with the ball. He freewheels a bit too much and gets blinders on in the fast break, but he was tenacious and played better defense on Ginobili than anyone did on him. As I mentioned before the series, Josh is the X factor. Unfortunately, Josh has been very inconsistent over his career. He'll have a 27/9 night and follow it up with a 12/5 night. He needs to start playing smart and balanced. When he does, Dirk will have a true #2 star player and you can start wrapping up division championships.

Devin Harris repeated a performance that he had in the Mavs/Spurs first matchup of the season where he got free trips to the rim in the 4th (as the defense focused on Dirk), and Dallas won by 20. Devin is a special talent with a special future. He's got all-star skills. Avery called him the best defender on the team earlier in the season. Couple that with a nearly unstoppable offensive game and you have an al-star point guard. With he, Howard, Daniels, Diop, and Mbenga growing up alongside young vets Dirk and Terry, Dallas is looking solid for years to come.

Dirk had a great all-around game. He played excellent transition defense and guarded the perimeter very well. He rebounded well and shot an efficient 7-11 for 21 points. His encouragement and challenge of his teammates to rise to the occasion obviously worked. Way to go Dirk. Awesome game.

Stackhouse had a nice bounce back game. I cringed every time that he tossed up a corner three, but for once this season they went in more often then they didnt. I hate to see Stack take jumpers. There is nothing worse to see in a Mavs game because there are usually three guys on the floor who can shoot jumpers much more efficiently than Stack can. He should be going to the rim every time he gets the ball. Stack is tough though. He's a fierce competitor, and he comes to play in big games. Im glad hes a Mav.

See ya in game 3 Spurs fans. Home court now belongs to Dallas. Can they hold it? Can the Spurs stay healthy? How will Pop adjust to Avery's point guard change? Will Ginobili come out of Howard's shadow? If Pop tracks the guards, who will cover Dirk? Will the Mavs centers continue with the foul trouble? Who will win the battle of I-35?

What a great series this one should be. The powers of the west slugging it out toe to toe. Duncan and Dirk, Ginobili and Howard, Pop and Avery, Parker and Harris, Bench v. Bench. I cant wait for game 3.

I think the Mavs suprised the Spurs and its coaching staff when they started Harris instead of AG and give credit to AJ for that one, who has learned from his mentor, Popovich, very well.

Pop remember last year started Barry to jumpstart the Spurs in the first round against the Nuggs and AJ wanted more speed and more playmaking out there and they jumped on them from the get go.

Josh Howard is a matchup nigthmare for the Spurs, he is a younger version to me of Shawn Marion, just fills up the stat sheet. I saw him play a lot in Wake Forest and knew he was going to be special in the league. A good kid that works hard.

You can make all the excuses you want if you are a Spurs fan, and I'm a big one, but I wont. I dont care if it was their 3rd game in 5 days or whatever. Truth of the matter is you have to come out and play and match the other team's energy and they didnt. This game was over for all intent and purposes when the Mavs went ahead 7-1.

It was embarrassing for a defending champ to play w/ no urgency or no heart. They looked lost out there and the Mavs made them look like a JV team. They were beating them to the boards and I swear if that the Spurs are the worst defensive rebounding team in the playoffs right now. They allow so many offensive boards it has to be driving Pop crazy.

If the Spurs dont match the Mavs energy, this is going to a hell of a series for the Spurs.

epicSocialism4tw
05-10-2006, 12:58 PM
Josh Howard is a matchup nigthmare for the Spurs, he is a younger version to me of Shawn Marion, just fills up the stat sheet. I saw him play a lot in Wake Forest and knew he was going to be special in the league. A good kid that works hard.

I've always called Josh Rod-Pippen because he plays like a mixture of the two. He's got the Pippen perimeter/attack game and the tenacious mindset on the boards and on defense like Rodman. He's even got the Rodman attitude. He just needs to get his basketball head about him and he'll be the #2 star that Dallas needs.


It was embarrassing for a defending champ to play w/ no urgency or no heart. They looked lost out there and the Mavs made them look like a JV team. They were beating them to the boards and I swear if that the Spurs are the worst defensive rebounding team in the playoffs right now. They allow so many offensive boards it has to be driving Pop crazy.
If the Spurs dont match the Mavs energy, this is going to a hell of a series for the Spurs.

Dallas is starting to exploit the Spurs' commitment to force the ball away from Dirk. Dallas' strength all season was their efficient offense. The story of this series is not about Dallas' defense, Duncan scoring, or Dirk Nowitzki scoring points. It's about Dallas offensive efficiency and whether or not the Spurs defense will make it inefficient. The Spurs eeked out a game 1 victory by making things very difficult for Dallas in the last 4-5 minutes. Dallas didnt execute well, and ultimately lost the game because they couldnt execute on the Spurs' defense on the last play. It's a classic battle: great half court defense vs. great half court offense.

The Spurs collective age has shown in this series. You mentioned energy, and I think that what we are really talking about is the Mavs' youngsters making their way against the Spurs' veterans. Ginobili looks old and beat up. Finley looks old. Van Exel is old. Barry is old. Bowen is old. Duncan's old. On the converse, Dallas' key contributors are all young in comparison (exept for Stack). Dallas should have the physical edge in a long series.

I think that SA is asking an awful lot of Duncan right now. They are asking him to dominate offensively, dominate the glass against a great rebounding team, and to keep Dallas' guards out of the paint on rotations. He is also old, and I dont see him being able to play at that level for an entire series with Dallas.

Game 3 will be very important. If Dallas pulls out another complete victory, it could break the Spurs' will. If SA wins, they regain homecourt and keep Dallas from taking advantage of the opportunity that they created for themselves. That would shift momentum again with a big game 4 on the way.

ro_50
05-10-2006, 01:43 PM
Dallas is starting to exploit the Spurs' commitment to force the ball away from Dirk. Dallas' strength all season was their efficient offense. The story of this series is not about Dallas' defense, Duncan scoring, or Dirk Nowitzki scoring points. It's about Dallas offensive efficiency and whether or not the Spurs defense will make it inefficient. The Spurs eeked out a game 1 victory by making things very difficult for Dallas in the last 4-5 minutes. Dallas didnt execute well, and ultimately lost the game because they couldnt execute on the Spurs' defense on the last play. It's a classic battle: great half court defense vs. great half court offense.

The Spurs collective age has shown in this series. You mentioned energy, and I think that what we are really talking about is the Mavs' youngsters making their way against the Spurs' veterans. Ginobili looks old and beat up. Finley looks old. Van Exel is old. Barry is old. Bowen is old. Duncan's old. On the converse, Dallas' key contributors are all young in comparison (exept for Stack). Dallas should have the physical edge in a long series.

Thats the one thing that has become obvious in this year's playoffs. The Spurs age is starting to show. I dont think its Manu's age, he's still in his prime but his basketball body has a lot of mileage on it from playing International ball and deep into the playoffs over the years. I think Manu is tired but thats still not an excuse for his inconsistent play. I think he's trying too hard to make things happen out there. Bowen, I hate to say it, has played much better on offense in the playoffs than on defense and I cant believe I'm saying that. Finley has played well when given the chance and I think he's been a savior off the bench. TD is a legend and is trying his best to carry them on his back. TP hasnt shown up either but its still 1-1 and I hope SA can squeak 1 out in Dallas. Its good that the Spurs willl have three days off between games before game 3 on Saturday.

AJ has impacted the Mavs team in a tremendous way. He has them playing Spurs ball, which is defense and efficient ball movement on offense. Its now how many points you scored but how you score them, be it w/ movement and offensive rebounding. The Mavs have done that in this series.

This is no doubt the big boys series out West and its laughable to me to see JV teams (compared to the Spurs and Mavs) battle in the other spot. The Clipps and Suns are good teams but they are not the Spurs and Mavs and the winner of this series will win the West.

Clockwork Orange
05-10-2006, 01:51 PM
Yep. NVE has always had those problems. I dont like his reaction to the non-call. You dont do that to your team in a game that important.

If it wasn't that, Javie would have found another reason to run Van Exel. Those two have been at each other going all the way back to Nick The Quit's Denver days.

Joey Crawford has the worst case of rabbit ears in the NBA, but Steve Javie holds grudges forever. Javie had a running feud with Dan Issel until Issel's coaching days came to an end. It was a mortal lock that any game in which Issel & Javie were involved, Issel was getting at least one technical and more than likely getting tossed. Here's a story that Issel told after he was out of coaching:

He and Javie were talking during a timeout and being cordial for a change. Issel asked Javie why he didn't like Nick Van Exel. Javie responded, "Nick Van Exel is a miserable human being." Issel laughed and jokingly said, "I think you're a miserable human being." Javie hit him with a technical and Issel went absolutely ballistic. Needless to say, Issel was quickly assessed his 2nd technical and was ejected.

epicSocialism4tw
05-10-2006, 01:53 PM
This is no doubt the big boys series out West and its laughable to me to see JV teams (compared to the Spurs and Mavs) battle in the other spot. The Clipps and Suns are good teams but they are not the Spurs and Mavs and the winner of this series will win the West.

These guys know that too. You can see it on their faces. They know that this series is a trip to the finals. I see the winner of this series coming out with extreme momentum and destroying the Suns/Clippers within 5 games. Both the Spurs and the Mavs are too complete for those teams. Inside, outside, offensively, defensively, they are both too much. In the playoffs, it's not about how many points you scored in the reg. season. Its about how efficiently you score. I believe that both Dallas and SA are more efficient offensive teams than PHX and LAC. Ideally, the Clips would have a better shot at beating one of those teams, but their post players and defense arent doing enough to beat the Suns. That doesnt speak well for them in a matchup against Dallas or SA.

JCMElway
05-10-2006, 02:25 PM
I will watch with much pleasure as the Spurs once again take out the Mavs in the playoffs. Maybe the Mavericks should make second round T-shirts to commemorate the achievement.

Dirk will be exposed again as a one trick jump shooter in the playoffs. We can only hope he throws another hissy fit on the court and starts yelling at Jet Terry. Because as we all know, Dirk does not handle the pressure of the playoffs very well.

He looked just fine to me in game two.

That series is going 6 or 7 games, guaranteed. Probably 7.

JCMElway
05-10-2006, 02:26 PM
And since this is the NBA playoffs thread, does anyone here see the Pistons getting beat by anyone? Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller?....

ro_50
05-10-2006, 02:33 PM
And since this is the NBA playoffs thread, does anyone here see the Pistons getting beat by anyone? Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller?....


Honestly, I maybe see the Mavs or Spurs taking 2 games MAX out of them.

Those are the only two teams with a legitimate chance of defeating the Pistons.

epicSocialism4tw
05-10-2006, 02:51 PM
And since this is the NBA playoffs thread, does anyone here see the Pistons getting beat by anyone? Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller?....

I see the Pistons beating a worn out Spurs team, but I see Dallas beating the Pistons. Laugh now, but look at their track record against each other. Dallas has a decided edge in recent seasons including a 37 point thrashing earlier in the season where Dallas gave Detroit their first loss. Then Dallas went into Detroit with a severely depleated roster and almost beat them on their own floor. Dallas will also be seasoned by a tough Western Conference playoffs and will come into that series with some serious momentum. If Dallas beats the Spurs, Dallas will take the trophy.

ro_50
05-10-2006, 03:38 PM
I see the Pistons beating a worn out Spurs team, but I see Dallas beating the Pistons. Laugh now, but look at their track record against each other. Dallas has a decided edge in recent seasons including a 37 point thrashing earlier in the season where Dallas gave Detroit their first loss. Then Dallas went into Detroit with a severely depleated roster and almost beat them on their own floor. Dallas will also be seasoned by a tough Western Conference playoffs and will come into that series with some serious momentum. If Dallas beats the Spurs, Dallas will take the trophy.


I think Dallas has the youth and athleticism to give the Pistons a better series than the Spurs (even though I love my team) but if they do meet them, its going to be interesting to see if the Mavs can play physical w/ that frontline and it would be a compelling matchup to see Dirk go against Prince.

epicSocialism4tw
05-10-2006, 03:46 PM
I think Dallas has the youth and athleticism to give the Pistons a better series than the Spurs (even though I love my team) but if they do meet them, its going to be interesting to see if the Mavs can play physical w/ that frontline and it would be a compelling matchup to see Dirk go against Prince.

Dirk has never had any problems playing the Pistons. Josh Howard usually plays well against them, and Dampier plays better against the Pistons than any other team in the league. Damp absolutely dominates the boards against the Pistons. The Mavs' frontline usually dictates their will against Detroit.

Dallas traditionally plays very well against Detroit at home and on the road.

SoCalBronco
05-10-2006, 09:46 PM
Clip Show 65 Suns 51 Halftime

SoCalBronco
05-10-2006, 10:11 PM
Can anyone miss a basket? Jeez.

jossjeff
05-10-2006, 10:20 PM
Brand is absolutely destroying the Suns inside.

Kamen has gotten off as well, we are killing them on the boards and with 2nd shots.

85-65. Mid 3rd.

Still the way the Suns can score there is still a long way to go.

SoCalBronco
05-10-2006, 10:34 PM
LAC 98 PHO 79 End of 3rd.

ludo21
05-10-2006, 11:07 PM
jusr got home, ewwww

UGLLY LOSS.

o welk......

SoCalBronco
05-10-2006, 11:09 PM
Clippers 122 Suns 97 Final.

Brand rapes again.

Good adjustments by Coach Dunleavy in Game 2.

JCMElway
05-10-2006, 11:12 PM
Dirk has never had any problems playing the Pistons. Josh Howard usually plays well against them, and Dampier plays better against the Pistons than any other team in the league. Damp absolutely dominates the boards against the Pistons. The Mavs' frontline usually dictates their will against Detroit.

Dallas traditionally plays very well against Detroit at home and on the road.

Bring it on Llama! I can out-homer you any day of the week!!!!

epicSocialism4tw
05-10-2006, 11:13 PM
Clippers 122 Suns 97 Final.

Brand rapes again.

Good adjustments by Coach Dunleavy in Game 2.


The Suns have no match for the Clips' inside game.

ludo21
05-10-2006, 11:16 PM
The Suns have no match for the Clips' inside game.

Brand dominating is acceptable, but if kaman plays well too, series is over.

jossjeff
05-11-2006, 05:46 PM
The Clipper defense was the biggest difference in game 2.

They basically played exactly the same offensive game but the 40 or so wide open 3's by the Suns were a thing of the past.

Brand is shooting something like 70% for the series so far. 8')

He'll get his 30/12 every game.

Keep playing tough D . Make Nash into a scorer and guard the 3 point line. I have no problem with them shooting 2 point jump shots. Those shots just wern't falling last night like they were in game one.

Nice to steal home court but it's still a young series.

rbackfactory80
05-11-2006, 05:59 PM
And since this is the NBA playoffs thread, does anyone here see the Pistons getting beat by anyone? Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller?....

Not a chance. The Pistons have not even been tested in months. Let the western teams beat each other up while Detroit will finally face a tough series against the Heat or Nets next series. Dallas is solid but they wont get past San Antonio. Neither will have a chance I believe.

rbackfactory80
05-11-2006, 06:03 PM
I see the Pistons beating a worn out Spurs team, but I see Dallas beating the Pistons. Laugh now, but look at their track record against each other. Dallas has a decided edge in recent seasons including a 37 point thrashing earlier in the season where Dallas gave Detroit their first loss. Then Dallas went into Detroit with a severely depleated roster and almost beat them on their own floor. Dallas will also be seasoned by a tough Western Conference playoffs and will come into that series with some serious momentum. If Dallas beats the Spurs, Dallas will take the trophy.

I wish Dallas would get by the Spurs, that would mean the NBA wouldn't have to wait another month to hand the trophy to Detroit. Beware what you wish for, Pistons will beat them up in 5.

epicSocialism4tw
05-11-2006, 07:25 PM
I wish Dallas would get by the Spurs, that would mean the NBA wouldn't have to wait another month to hand the trophy to Detroit. Beware what you wish for, Pistons will beat them up in 5.

I have no apprehenision about a Mav matchup with Detroit. Detroit has always been the lesser team when they play each other over the past 4 or 5 seasons. I hear a bunch of unfounded junk about how much better Detroit is than everyone else, but where is the discussion? Personally, I think that detroit would put up a fight, but if Dallas beats SA (who they have much more trouble with historically than Detroit) then Dallas will win a championship.

Dallas destroyed Detroit by 37 this season. That's three short of 40.
That's Varsity v. the Freshman team. They obliterated Detroit from the first whistle of that game.

Dallas isnt afraid of Detroit. I can guarantee that.

ludo21
05-13-2006, 05:14 PM
Cavs can win this one, and they must win this one!

Good game tho!

GonzoLays
05-13-2006, 07:36 PM
I wouldn't put much stock in Detroit losing to Dallas during the second week of the season. Detroit was 8-0 at the point and was due for a let down. Dallas played that game like it was their Super Bowl. In their second meeting Detroit handily beat Mavericks and the score does not show how dominant the Pistons were in that game.

The point is mute because Dallas has about a 10% chance of beating San Antonio this series. They don't have enough toughness to get past the Spurs. As Jerry Stackhouse put it, "I've always thought the Mavericks were a soft team." Hey, can't argue with a guy who plays for the Mavs.

RhymesayersDU
05-13-2006, 07:38 PM
The point is mute

I think you mean "moot" champ.

Nuggets4
05-13-2006, 08:46 PM
I think you mean "moot" champ.

Maybe he's just hoping Llama will be quiet.

ro_50
05-13-2006, 08:58 PM
BS call on TD. This is awful to be called on TD in a great game.

ro_50
05-13-2006, 09:06 PM
Geez, Spurs cant freaking rebound to save their life.

So embarrassing.

ro_50
05-13-2006, 09:14 PM
Llama, Mavs won and deserved too but PLEASE DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE OFFICIATING ANYMORE.

RhymesayersDU
05-13-2006, 09:19 PM
Maybe he's just hoping Llama will be quiet.
Hmmm... In that case, carry on Gonzo.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2006, 09:48 PM
KISS MY ASS!

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA114051323_1024x768.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
05-13-2006, 10:10 PM
http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA121051323_640x480.jpg

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-13-2006, 10:30 PM
Genius.

Sodak
05-13-2006, 11:04 PM
Nice.

SoCalBronco
05-13-2006, 11:33 PM
I thought Gonzo was a Celtics fan, not a Spurs fan.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-13-2006, 11:35 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/mutherm/gino.jpg

I still don't have all of my voice back from yelling throughout the game. Ready to do it again Monday night.

WABronco
05-13-2006, 11:39 PM
http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA121051323_640x480.jpg
Hahahaha

Eat **** Duncan...

Clockwork Orange
05-13-2006, 11:40 PM
I just wanted to take this opportunity to point out where Reggie Evans learned his tricks.

http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/sports/2005/04/0409lakers.jpg

WABronco
05-13-2006, 11:47 PM
I just wanted to take this opportunity to point out where Reggie Evans learned his tricks.

http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/sports/2005/04/0409lakers.jpgOH WTF IS THAT ALLEN? DAMN!

He's using both hands...good man.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 12:12 AM
Great thread, Bob! Timmy "Who, me?" Duncan is making quite a reputation for himself as a whiny, poor loser in this series. He's showing the type of mental weakness that second-round-and-done teams show.

What a great victory for a limping Nowitzki and his Mavs. That game added to Dirk's legend in Dallas. It's too bad that no one cares outside of Texas, but this series is a monster. Dirk just delivered a Bird-esque game. Forget Bird, Dirk delivered a Dirk performance.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 12:15 AM
Llama, Mavs won and deserved too but PLEASE DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE OFFICIATING ANYMORE.

I'll let Duncan, Bowen, Parker, Ginobili, Finley, Van Exel, and Horry do that. They have done enough of it for all of us.

WABronco
05-14-2006, 12:17 AM
Great thread, Bob! Timmy "Who, me?" Duncan is making quite a reputation for himself as a whiny, poor loser in this series. He's showing the type of mental weakness that second-round-and-done teams show.

What a great victory for a limping Nowitzki and his Mavs. That game added to Dirk's legend in Dallas. It's too bad that no one cares outside of Texas, but this series is a monster. Dirk just delivered a Bird-esque game. Forget Bird, Dirk delivered a Dirk performance.
Is Dirk his fullname?

I hate Duncan too. If I was a ref, I'd T him up every time he looked at me with that stupid "oh shucks" look.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 12:38 AM
Great win for Dallas. It was a game where they couldnt execute on either end in the second half like they wanted to, but they found a way to make the plays that counted down the stretch. Dirk and Devin Harris were excellent. Its a great time to be a Mav fan. The future is brighter than today, and today the Mavs are giving the NBA Champions more than they can handle.

Dirk had an outstanding game again. The guy has really stepped up his all-around play. His assist to Stack, offensive rebound off of a Stackhouse brick with 7.9 to go, and the subsequent free throws really show you what an MVP is supposed to do to win close the game. He did that on a severely sprained ankle. No one outside of Dallas really knows this, but Dirk plays hurt alot. He's one of the toughest guys in the league. I wouldnt want another superstar on my team (maybe LeBron). The guy does what it takes to win, and comes out of giving himself to a complete team effort with 27 and 15. Greatness. The Dirk haters can suck on that for awhile. While they're at it, they can shove the pill down their throats that Dirk's team has outplayed the NBA Champions for the first three games in an away series. The Mavs are one boneheaded Stackhouse play away from looking to sweep the Champs next week.

If SA cant adjust to Dirk and Harris on the pick n roll, the series is over.

I fully expect Pop to find a way to throw a wrench into that play though. He's an excellent coach, but what do you do? If you pull Bowen off of Dirk to help, Dirk is open to catch a pass and penetrate the lane or pull up for a jumper. If you rotate Howard's man, he beats his defender with a ball fake and heads to the rim. If you rotate Terry's man, you have an easy path to the lane for Terry. There is a never-ending stream of Mav attackers off of the dribble. It must be a nightmare for Pop, and is proving to shred the most prolific defense in the league over the past few seasons. Pop will have to find a way to stop Dallas's dribble penetration to win.

I still expect the Spurs to take a game in Dallas, and I never expected Dallas to win the series. Everything up to this point of the series has been a surprise to me. Dallas has been the superior team for the first three games. I expected them to overtake SA next season after the youngsters get a full season in their respective roles, but they are stepping up beside Dirk right now. Terry hasnt played well and Stack's been a mixed bag, but Harris has been consistently outstanding and Howard has been dominant at times. Howard is due his usual production upswing home game in game 4. If he and Harris can get points, assists, steals, blocks, and rebounds, then Dallas will be nearly impossible to beat considering that Terry is out there wreaking havoc, Dirk is doing his thing, and Damp is cleaning up the boards and blocking shots.

Great game Mavs, but game 4 is a necessity.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 12:43 AM
Is Dirk his fullname?


It is his full name if you have to do a finger stretching exercise before you type his name so that you dont pull something reaching around the keyboard.

JCMElway
05-14-2006, 01:07 AM
Very good win for the Mavs. I'd be very surprised, tho', if SA lost game 4. This is the kind of game that Ginobli and Horry tend to light it up.

I'm also not convinced about the Mavs playoff tenacity. If they take Game 4, however, I will be convinced.

Kaylore
05-14-2006, 01:16 AM
pwnd

2KBack
05-14-2006, 01:46 AM
I'm not a fan of either team really, but Damn do I hate Ginobli

JCMElway
05-14-2006, 02:47 AM
Play off prediction:

Round two: Detroit wins in 5.
Round three: Detroit in 6. (Maybe 5 if the Heat/Nets are tired out from the last series.)
Finals: Detroit in 6.

I don't care who the Pistons play. That's how it goes down!

(Oh, and if Detroit loses I know this will get bumped. But I'll prolly bump it if I'm right. Heh.)

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 03:03 AM
Play off prediction:
Round two: Detroit wins in 5.
Round three: Detroit in 6. (Maybe 5 if the Heat/Nets are tired out from the last series.)
Finals: Detroit in 6.
I don't care who the Pistons play. That's how it goes down!
(Oh, and if Detroit loses I know this will get bumped. But I'll prolly bump it if I'm right. Heh.)


You sure are going out on some limbs there!

Detroit shouldnt have lost a game against those patsies that they have been served up. Milwuakee? Cleveland? The eastern conference is weak, and those two teams represent best why that conference is inferior. How on earth does Detroit lose a playoff game to a sub .500 team? It's bad enough that they lose to Cleveland.

The Pistons havent impressed me one bit.

JCMElway
05-14-2006, 03:13 AM
You sure are going out on some limbs there!

Detroit shouldnt have lost a game against those patsies that they have been served up. Milwuakee? Cleveland? The eastern conference is weak, and those two teams represent best why that conference is inferior. How on earth does Detroit lose a playoff game to a sub .500 team? It's bad enough that they lose to Cleveland.

The Pistons havent impressed me one bit.

It's the playoffs and teams invariably step up, esp. the first game on their home court. Do you really think that any team is going to hold LeBron James and Michael Redd down for four games in a row? Almost impossible to pull off with the caliber of those players. (And if Detroit had played Memphis they would have swept them as well.)

As for your not being impressed, well, that's how Detroit operates. They play a very defensive style, clamp down opponents break chances, and hit timely threes. They usually win their game by scoring around 90 points and holding their opponetns near 80. Not very impressive untill you realize they did it to their opponents 4 games out of 5 or 6.

Defense wins championships and that will prove to be the case again.

(Oh, and if you think that Dallas is a better defensive team than Detroit you are more of a homer than I thought.)

JCMElway
05-14-2006, 03:19 AM
One more thing about Dallas. If they advance past this round they are in uncarted waters. The Pistons have been getting thios deep in the playoffs for four or five years now. If it comes down to Detroit vs. Dallas in the Finals I like the pistons' chances due to Finals experience alone. Not to mention talent and head to head matchups.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 03:27 AM
It's the playoffs and teams invariably step up, esp. the first game on their home court. Do you really think that any team is going to hold LeBron James and Michael Redd down for four games in a row? Almost impossible to pull off with the caliber of those players. (And if Detroit had played Memphis they would have swept them as well.)
As for your not being impressed, well, that's how Detroit operates. They play a very defensive style, clamp down opponents break chances, and hit timely threes. They usually win their game by scoring around 90 points and holding their opponetns near 80. Not very impressive untill you realize they did it to their opponents 4 games out of 5 or 6.
Defense wins championships and that will prove to be the case again.
(Oh, and if you think that Dallas is a better defensive team than Detroit you are more of a homer than I thought.)

Wrap it up in whatever bow makes you feel nice and warm, but Detroit lost to a sub .500 team in the playoffs. After that, they went into a series with a sorry Cleveland outfit and have lost a game to this point. That to me says two things: 1) Detroit has problems executing, 2) Detroit likes to coast at times. Both of those things illustrate problems that Dallas would exploit.

Detroit is good, and I expect them to make the finals. If the Spurs make the finals, I expect the Pistons to take it. If Dallas makes it, Dallas will take the rings. That I am sure of. The Spurs are the team that Dallas has to beat to win a championship. The Pistons would be window dressing.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 03:56 AM
One more thing about Dallas. If they advance past this round they are in uncarted waters.

Not true.

Dallas played in the conf. finals in 03. Avery has won a championship, Van Horn has played in the NBA Finals, and Stack has extensive playoff experience with Detroit and Philly.

The Pistons have been getting thios deep in the playoffs for four or five years now.

Not true either.

5 seasons ago, Detroit missed the playoffs with a 32-50 record.
4 seasons ago, Detroit went 50-32 and lost to the Celtics in the 2nd round.
3 seasons ago, Detroit lost in the E Conf Finals to the "powerhouse" Nets.
2 seasons ago, Detroit won the championship.
1 season ago, Detroit lost the championship to San Antonio.

So really, Detroit has been "deep" for three seasons, and has been the representative for the east in two of those seasons. Nothing near the "4 or 5" that you mentioned earlier.


If it comes down to Detroit vs. Dallas in the Finals I like the pistons' chances due to Finals experience alone. Not to mention talent and head to head matchups.


Dallas has plenty of talent, plenty of skill, plenty of defensive ability, and plenty of offensive options. Bring on the Pistons and their 6-man team.

Jason in LA
05-14-2006, 05:14 AM
He's showing the type of mental weakness that second-round-and-done teams show.



You mean that weakness that the Mavs have showed for so many years, while the Spurs, or my Lakers, went on to winning titles?

This was a very close game. Don't act like the Mavs ran them off the court. It could have easily gone the other way, and you'd be crying right about now.

-Slap-
05-14-2006, 07:45 AM
Great thread, Bob! Timmy "Who, me?" Duncan is making quite a reputation for himself as a whiny, poor loser in this series. He's showing the type of mental weakness that second-round-and-done teams show.

What a great victory for a limping Nowitzki and his Mavs. That game added to Dirk's legend in Dallas. It's too bad that no one cares outside of Texas, but this series is a monster. Dirk just delivered a Bird-esque game. Forget Bird, Dirk delivered a Dirk performance.
Yeah, the mentally weak Tim Duncan, who put up 35 and 12 and shot 65% from the floor........::)

Nice to see Dirk has adopted the Playoff Limp. He's not in the class of all time sympathy milkers like Isiah Thomas or Kevin McHale, but he's getting there. Not sure how much more the refs can do for him in this series, though. He practically attempted more free throws than the entire Spurs team. Maybe Cuban can cry even more.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-14-2006, 08:04 AM
Dirk's a ****ing warrior.

And this kid is fast as lightning!

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA124051400_1024x768.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
05-14-2006, 08:16 AM
The point is mute because Dallas has about a 10% chance of beating San Antonio this series. They don't have enough toughness to get past the Spurs.


I will watch with much pleasure as the Spurs once again take out the Mavs in the playoffs. Maybe the Mavericks should make second round T-shirts to commemorate the achievement.

Dirk will be exposed again as a one trick jump shooter in the playoffs. We can only hope he throws another hissy fit on the court and starts yelling at Jet Terry. Because as we all know, Dirk does not handle the pressure of the playoffs very well.

Here's your hissy fit:

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA110051322_1024x768.jpg

ludo21
05-14-2006, 09:29 AM
Such arguments, we all know the Suns will be victorious! ;D

ro_50
05-14-2006, 12:18 PM
I'll let Duncan, Bowen, Parker, Ginobili, Finley, Van Exel, and Horry do that. They have done enough of it for all of us.



Whatever. I always see Mark Cuban, Josh Howard, Dirk, complaining about the calls during games too. Its amazing you dont mention the officiating in this game 3 but yet you did in game 1.

Why are Mavs fans like that? Just curious, they see things w/ blinders on.

Yeah you sure know a lot about the Spurs, have you ever heard the Spurs player use the officiating as an excuse after a game. They dont and their coach doesnt.

Bring on game 4.

WABronco
05-14-2006, 12:38 PM
It is his full name if you have to do a finger stretching exercise before you type his name so that you dont pull something reaching around the keyboard.
Lol, I was just wondering...

JCMElway
05-14-2006, 12:41 PM
If Dallas makes it, Dallas will take the rings. That I am sure of. The Spurs are the team that Dallas has to beat to win a championship. The Pistons would be window dressing.

OK, we could go back and forth all day and change each others minds not one iota. Fair enough. Let's get to the games and see what happens.

By the by, care for a little avatar bet on this one should the Mavs and Pistons meet?

TheManeMan
05-14-2006, 01:05 PM
Did I miss something?

Is this series over already?

JCMElway
05-14-2006, 01:07 PM
Did I miss something?

Is this series over already?

No, you didn't miss anything. It's definetly gonna go 6 games. Probably 7. But don't tell Mavs fans that right now. :thumbs:

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 01:22 PM
Yeah, the mentally weak Tim Duncan, who put up 35 and 12 and shot 65% from the floor........::)

No, Im talking about the mentally weak Tim Duncan that forces an immediate conference with the officials after every single whistle. The Tim Duncan that Bob has captured so righteously with his images on this thread. The Tim Duncan that gets away with as much as any player in the league, but feels entitled to every call enough that he complains more than any player Ive ever seen. Now he has led his whole team into incessant whining. Its a regular occurrence to see a three to four man Spur whine festival after a foul call. Play like a man. Like everyone else has to. Most players would have been T'ed up in every game that they pulled that garbage.

Nice to see Dirk has adopted the Playoff Limp. He's not in the class of all time sympathy milkers like Isiah Thomas or Kevin McHale, but he's getting there. Not sure how much more the refs can do for him in this series, though. He practically attempted more free throws than the entire Spurs team. Maybe Cuban can cry even more.

What a load of garbage. Did you even watch the game? Probably not.

Dirk Nowitzki might have led his team to a championship starting last night. If Dallas can manage to put it together and bounce the Spurs on their way to a championship, Nowitzki will have stamped his ticket for the HOF. That was a legendary performance. The dude relentlessly attacked the basket last night. That's why he got to the line. He took over and beat his perimeter defenders off of the dribble. Nowitzki is one of the main reasons that Duncan was in foul trouble. Nowitzki fouled him out on a dirty play where Duncan tried to undercut him subtly (yet Timmy still whines like a 3 year old)...then Dirk proceeded to supply the clutch plays down the stretch to put the Mavs on top.

Playoff Limp? That's laughable. Get over yourself. The Lakers suck.:thumbs:

Spider
05-14-2006, 01:26 PM
KISS MY ASS!


Did Gonzo forget to get you a mothers day gift again ?

ro_50
05-14-2006, 01:28 PM
Its funny to read this BS thread about TD.

The guy's a legend, what has Dirk done in the playoffs. Until he wins a ring or is a league MVP. SHUTUP MAVS FANS.

He's a great player, no doubt, top 5 in the league.

Jesus Christ, the Mavs controlled the game, got 50 FTs and won by 1.

Bob, you are an idiot and please shut the hell up.

This series is far from over.

Nuggets4
05-14-2006, 01:29 PM
OK, seriously, everyone's going to let Bob talk smack? The fairweather basketball fan Bob?

Spider
05-14-2006, 01:30 PM
OK, seriously, everyone's going to let Bob talk smack? The fairweather basketball fan Bob?
I agree we should call Bobs mom and tell her Bob is on the internet playing again

ro_50
05-14-2006, 01:31 PM
Great thread, Bob! Timmy "Who, me?" Duncan is making quite a reputation for himself as a whiny, poor loser in this series. He's showing the type of mental weakness that second-round-and-done teams show.

What a great victory for a limping Nowitzki and his Mavs. That game added to Dirk's legend in Dallas. It's too bad that no one cares outside of Texas, but this series is a monster. Dirk just delivered a Bird-esque game. Forget Bird, Dirk delivered a Dirk performance.

SHUT UP. COMPARING DIRK TO BIRD. PLEASE STOP W/ THE MADNESS.

DIRK IS A GREAT PLAYER BUT PLEASE LET HIM LEAD HIS TEAM TO A FINALS BEFORE ANNOINTING HIM A LEGEND.

ITS THE SECOND ROUND. TD'S MENTAL-WEAKNESS. WHAT F*CK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HE DOESNT HAVE MENTAL WEAKNESS YOU IDIOT.

HE'S PLAYING THROUGH AN INJURY THE ENTIRE SEASON. THATS WHAT LEGENDS DO.

Spider
05-14-2006, 01:32 PM
SHUT UP. COMPARING DIRK TO BIRD. PLEASE STOP W/ THE MADNESS.

DIRK IS A GREAT PLAYER BUT PLEASE LET HIM LEAD HIS TEAM TO A FINALS BEFORE ANNOINTING HIM A LEGEND.

ITS THE SECOND ROUND. TD'S MENTAL-WEAKNESS. WHAT **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HE DOESNT HAVE MENTAL WEAKNESS YOU IDIOT.

HE'S PLAYING THROUGH AN INJURY THE ENTIRE SEASON. THATS WHAT LEGENDS DO.
So how do you realy feel ?

-Slap-
05-14-2006, 01:32 PM
No, Im talking about the mentally weak Tim Duncan that forces an immediate conference with the officials after every single whistle. The Tim Duncan that Bob has captured so righteously with his images on this thread. The Tim Duncan that gets away with as much as any player in the league, but feels entitled to every call enough that he complains more than any player Ive ever seen. Now he has led his whole team into incessant whining. Its a regular occurrence to see a three to four man Spur whine festival after a foul call. Play like a man. Like everyone else has to. Most players would have been T'ed up in every game that they pulled that garbage.



What a load of garbage. Did you even watch the game? Probably not.

Dirk Nowitzki might have led his team to a championship starting last night. If Dallas can manage to put it together and bounce the Spurs on their way to a championship, Nowitzki will have stamped his ticket for the HOF. That was a legendary performance. The dude relentlessly attacked the basket last night. That's why he got to the line. He took over and beat his perimeter defenders off of the dribble. Nowitzki is one of the main reasons that Duncan was in foul trouble. Nowitzki fouled him out on a dirty play where Duncan tried to undercut him subtly (yet Timmy still whines like a 3 year old)...then Dirk proceeded to supply the clutch plays down the stretch to put the Mavs on top.

Playoff Limp? That's laughable. Get over yourself. The Lakers suck.:thumbs:
AL, your Dirk licking posts are as unintentionally funny as anything that's ever been posted here.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 01:32 PM
You mean that weakness that the Mavs have showed for so many years, while the Spurs, or my Lakers, went on to winning titles?
No, not that weakness...the weakness that your Lakers showed while being bounced by the equally weak and physically worn out Suns after being up 3-1. That type of playoff folding is usually held for guys like McGrady. It's nice to see the Lakers begin to cement themselves with that reputation. Chokers. Quitters.

This was a very close game. Don't act like the Mavs ran them off the court. It could have easily gone the other way, and you'd be crying right about now.

The Mavs have asserted their will in this series up to this point. They could easily be up 3-0 if they dont lose the lead in the fourth quarter of game 1 and Stack doesnt make that boneheaded play. The Mavs are getting what they want offensively and have put the clamps down on Ginobili and Parker. If the Mavs take game 4, the series is done. The Spurs' body language and dependance on the officials shows a team that is struggling to keep up. Poor Popovich looks beat down. The Mavs have the mental edge right now.

ozomulsion
05-14-2006, 01:33 PM
Dirk Nowitzki might have led his team to a championship starting last night. If Dallas can manage to put it together and bounce the Spurs on their way to a championship, Nowitzki will have stamped his ticket for the HOF.

Get real. :peace:

ro_50
05-14-2006, 01:33 PM
I am honestly tired of this crap.

Geez, if the Mavs win this series, I will give them all the credit in the world but these pathetic attacks on TD, shut the hell up.

The Mavs havent won anything yet. Geez.

I am not posting anymore in these threads about the Mavs-Spurs series.

If the Mavs win, I will give their team, their coach who I really admire all the credit.

But no props to the Mavs fans on this board.

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 01:41 PM
I am honestly tired of this crap.
Geez, if the Mavs win this series, I will give them all the credit in the world but these pathetic attacks on TD, shut the hell up.
The Mavs havent won anything yet. Geez.

I never said that the series is over. Check my posts...you wont find that there. Forgive me for being excited that the Mavs have outplayed the NBA Champions in the first three games of a playoff series, and that their star player is consistently delivering the all-around great play that I had hoped to see from him in the playoffs. Forgive me for being happy that a team that depends on intentional flopping and gifts from the officials is not getting to fool the refs in this series.

The Spurs can still win, and I expected them to win the series, but you cant deny that Dallas has been the better team in nearly every phase for the first three games. Dallas is on top mentally too. There wont be alot of rest for SA at any point in the remainder of the series. It's going to take a gargantuan effort for the Spurs to win this series, and I am proud of the Mavs for putting them at a disadvantage so early in the series...for taking advantage of the situation and putting SA in an increasingly difficult situation. If Dallas wins game 4, the situation becomes very, very difficult for an aged team like SA.

scorpio
05-14-2006, 01:46 PM
AL, your Dirk licking posts are as unintentionally funny as anything that's ever been posted here.


Quoted for truth

JCMElway
05-14-2006, 01:51 PM
I never said that the series is over. Check my posts...you wont find that there. Forgive me for being excited that the Mavs have outplayed the NBA Champions in the first three games of a playoff series, and that their star player is consistently delivering the all-around great play that I had hoped to see from him in the playoffs. Forgive me for being happy that a team that depends on intentional flopping and gifts from the officials is not getting to fool the refs in this series.

The Spurs can still win, and I expected them to win the series, but you cant deny that Dallas has been the better team in nearly every phase for the first three games. Dallas is on top mentally too. There wont be alot of rest for SA at any point in the remainder of the series. It's going to take a gargantuan effort for the Spurs to win this series, and I am proud of the Mavs for putting them at a disadvantage so early in the series...for taking advantage of the situation and putting SA in an increasingly difficult situation. If Dallas wins game 4, the situation becomes very, very difficult for an aged team like SA.


OK, I think Llama has gone overboard on a few posts, but this last post was quality. As a fellow NBA fan I'm glad that your team is doing well and that you're having a good time. :thumbsup:

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 01:56 PM
OK, we could go back and forth all day and change each others minds not one iota. Fair enough. Let's get to the games and see what happens.
By the by, care for a little avatar bet on this one should the Mavs and Pistons meet?

Sure...that would be fun. We'll throw it down if our teams get there and the oportunity arises. You might have to remind me before the series though.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-14-2006, 01:56 PM
This series is over. It won't go more than six games.

Clockwork Orange
05-14-2006, 01:57 PM
This series is over.

The real Mavs fans here should be cursing you right now, you just put the whammy on the Mavs.

Nice going, Mush. :laugh:

epicSocialism4tw
05-14-2006, 01:59 PM
Yeah you sure know a lot about the Spurs, have you ever heard the Spurs player use the officiating as an excuse after a game. They dont and their coach doesnt.


Timmy, would you like some cheese with that whine?

Spurs forward Tim Duncan
On fouling out at the end of the game:
It was incredibly frustrating because of the type of fouls that were being called down the stretch there. I didnít think they were fouls and then to sit with that with such a short clock.

On the sixth foul call:
He didnít fall into me. He didnít touch me Ė I didnít touch him. He tried to draw contact, I moved out of his way. If he stepped on my foot, he stepped on my foot. There was zero contact.

TheManeMan
05-14-2006, 02:44 PM
Nice going, Mush. :laugh:



" Put him in the ****in' bathroom..."

" If it wasnt for bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all..."

jossjeff
05-14-2006, 02:47 PM
Putting Tim Thomas on Elton Brand and Shawn Marion on Sam Cassell was a great move on the Suns part.

Cassell had his worst game of the post season and Brand was reduced to a mere mortal.

Kaman picked a bad time to start playing like a little bitch out there. If not for the Russian influence we would have gotten killed Friday.

No reason to change from the Suns perspective. On the positive side the Clips played like **** the whole game and still had a shot at the end. On the other hand the Suns didn't play great either and those are the games that good teams have to fight though.

The final Nash shot was an offensive push but the MVP isn't gonna get called for that so I can't really bitch about it.

This is a must win for the Clips. Sucks to steal home court then give it right back the next game.

OrangeShadow
05-14-2006, 02:58 PM
what is this NBA you speak of?

-Slap-
05-14-2006, 02:59 PM
Quoted for truth
Sometimes I become a little embarrassed just reading them. Get done with one and you're convinced Dirk could cure cancer, end war and solve racism. And that whoever Dallas is playing currently is worse than Hitler, Bin Laden and Lex Luthor rolled into one.

ro_50
05-14-2006, 03:01 PM
Timmy, would you like some cheese with that whine?

Spurs forward Tim Duncan
On fouling out at the end of the game:
It was incredibly frustrating because of the type of fouls that were being called down the stretch there. I didnít think they were fouls and then to sit with that with such a short clock.

On the sixth foul call:
He didnít fall into me. He didnít touch me Ė I didnít touch him. He tried to draw contact, I moved out of his way. If he stepped on my foot, he stepped on my foot. There was zero contact.


Wow great find, Llamabeans, first time in TD's HALL-OF-FAME CAREER, he complains about the officiating after game. And that sixth foul on him was BS.

Remember Dirk complaining during the 2003 series, especially after game 2.

GonzoLays
05-14-2006, 03:27 PM
AL, your Dirk licking posts are as unintentionally funny as anything that's ever been posted here.

Finally, something we can agree on.

GonzoLays
05-14-2006, 03:34 PM
I thought Gonzo was a Celtics fan, not a Spurs fan.

No, I am a huge Celtic's fan. I just think the Spurs are going to be the Mavs. I am a 100% certain that San Antonio will prevail in this series.

Duncan>>>>>>>>Notwitzki
Parker>>>>>>>>>>>>Terry
Ginobli>>>>>>>>>>>>Daniels
Poppovich>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Johnson


The Spurs out class the Mavs in every category.

I am just amazed by the fact that the Mavs were able to steal two games from the Spurs.

ro_50
05-14-2006, 03:35 PM
I never said that the series is over. Check my posts...you wont find that there. Forgive me for being excited that the Mavs have outplayed the NBA Champions in the first three games of a playoff series, and that their star player is consistently delivering the all-around great play that I had hoped to see from him in the playoffs. Forgive me for being happy that a team that depends on intentional flopping and gifts from the officials is not getting to fool the refs in this series.

The Spurs can still win, and I expected them to win the series, but you cant deny that Dallas has been the better team in nearly every phase for the first three games. Dallas is on top mentally too. There wont be alot of rest for SA at any point in the remainder of the series. It's going to take a gargantuan effort for the Spurs to win this series, and I am proud of the Mavs for putting them at a disadvantage so early in the series...for taking advantage of the situation and putting SA in an increasingly difficult situation. If Dallas wins game 4, the situation becomes very, very difficult for an aged team like SA.


Blah, blah, blah. I expected this series to go 7 and I have always said the Mavs were on the Spurs level ALL SEASON. I'm not surprised they are up 2-1.

Hell, they could be up 3-0 but the Spurs could easily be up 2-1.

But I have never criticized the Mavs players, especially a great player like Dirk.

But through your posts, you have accused the Spurs of being whiners, TD being mentally weak and they get the favorable treatment from the refs.

That IS ALL CRAP.

Its good to be excited about your team but to constantly criticize the other team is pathetic.

So your post is misleading.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-14-2006, 03:42 PM
No, I am a huge Celtic's fan. I just think the Spurs are going to be the Mavs. I am a 100% certain that San Antonio will prevail in this series.

Duncan>>>>>>>>Notwitzki
Parker>>>>>>>>>>>>Terry
Ginobli>>>>>>>>>>>>Daniels
Poppovich>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Johnson


The Spurs out class the Mavs in every category.

I am just amazed by the fact that the Mavs were able to steal two games from the Spurs.

You're a ****ing idiot.

Steal? Since when do teams "steal" wins in the semis?

GonzoLays
05-14-2006, 03:47 PM
Blah, blah, blah. I expected this series to go 7 and I have always said the Mavs were on the Spurs level ALL SEASON. I'm not surprised they are up 2-1.

Hell, they could be up 3-0 but the Spurs could easily be up 2-1.

But I have never criticized the Mavs players, especially a great player like Dirk.

But through your posts, you have accused the Spurs of being whiners, TD being mentally weak and they get the favorable treatment from the refs.

That IS ALL CRAP.

Its good to be excited about your team but to constantly criticize the other team is pathetic.

So your post is misleading.

Llama posts are riddled with half-truths and off the wall hyperbole that only a psychiatric ward patient could understand his blatant abuse of reality.

* He once stated that if Dirk played in New York or LA he would have two consecutive MVP's by now. Nevermind the fact that Patrick Ewing never won an MVP while playing in New York or that Shaq only won ONE MVP while winning three straight championships. But yea, Dirk is getting screeeeeeewed.

* He believes the reason that Dirk didn't win the MVP is because he doesn't have a shoe commercial. Keep in mind that he REALLY believes this crap.

* He played the race card and said the Dirk wouldn't win the MVP because he wasn't "black."

* He actually compared Dirk's 9 free throws in a the fourth quarter of last night's game to Larry Bird. Actually he said was better than any of Bird's performances. He is not playing with a full deck here.

* One moment he calls Josh Howard "unreliable and unworthy of being a starting forward in this league" to "I compare him to Scottie Pippen. I've always said he was the next Scottie Pippen." He is not the smartest guy around here.


Overall, just take everything he says with a grain of salt. He bends the facts, flip-flops, and generally will lie his way out of any situation.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-14-2006, 04:04 PM
I am just amazed by the fact that the Mavs were able to steal two games from the Spurs.

LOL

Wow.

Crushaholic
05-14-2006, 04:09 PM
The real Mavs fans here should be cursing you right now, you just put the whammy on the Mavs.

Nice going, Mush. :laugh:

That's right. I have a friend who's a HUGE Spurs fan. She'll be happy to hear that someone officially put the whammy on the Mavs...LOL

ro_50
05-14-2006, 04:23 PM
Llama posts are riddled with half-truths and off the wall hyperbole that only a psychiatric ward patient could understand his blatant abuse of reality.

* He once stated that if Dirk played in New York or LA he would have two consecutive MVP's by now. Nevermind the fact that Patrick Ewing never won an MVP while playing in New York or that Shaq only won ONE MVP while winning three straight championships. But yea, Dirk is getting screeeeeeewed.

* He believes the reason that Dirk didn't win the MVP is because he doesn't have a shoe commercial. Keep in mind that he REALLY believes this crap.

* He played the race card and said the Dirk wouldn't win the MVP because he wasn't "black."

* He actually compared Dirk's 9 free throws in a the fourth quarter of last night's game to Larry Bird. Actually he said was better than any of Bird's performances. He is not playing with a full deck here.

* One moment he calls Josh Howard "unreliable and unworthy of being a starting forward in this league" to "I compare him to Scottie Pippen. I've always said he was the next Scottie Pippen." He is not the smartest guy around here.


Overall, just take everything he says with a grain of salt. He bends the facts, flip-flops, and generally will lie his way out of any situation.


I now take whatever he says w/ grain of salt. I will just ignore him from now on. It was pretty funny for him to call TD mentally weak and Dirk's performance as comparable to Bird.

Geez, TD mentally weak. How many rings does Dirk have? 0. TD - 3. Finals MVPS - Dirk, 0. TD - 3. ENOUGH SAID.

Llama, yeah, TD is mentally weak. He played on two sprain ankles throughout last season's playoffs and won the RING.

This year, he's played on a plantar Fascitis injury the ENTIRE SEASON and now is single-handley keeping the Spurs around in this series.

YEAH, MENTALLY WEAK MY ASS.

Dirk should be lucky enough to be mentioned in the same class as him.

But he wont till he leads his team to the Finals.

GonzoLays
05-14-2006, 07:06 PM
I now take whatever he says w/ grain of salt. I will just ignore him from now on. It was pretty funny for him to call TD mentally weak and Dirk's performance as comparable to Bird.

Geez, TD mentally weak. How many rings does Dirk have? 0. TD - 3. Finals MVPS - Dirk, 0. TD - 3. ENOUGH SAID.

Llama, yeah, TD is mentally weak. He played on two sprain ankles throughout last season's playoffs and won the RING.

This year, he's played on a plantar Fascitis injury the ENTIRE SEASON and now is single-handley keeping the Spurs around in this series.

YEAH, MENTALLY WEAK MY ASS.

Dirk should be lucky enough to be mentioned in the same class as him.

But he wont till he leads his team to the Finals.

And lets not forget that llama is the lowest form of fan known to man -- the bandwagoner. His favorite team USE to be the Chicago Bulls but after they began to struggle his shifted his alliances to the Steve Nash/ Dirk Nowitzksi led Mavericks. He makes no qualms about being a bandwagoner either.

After the Mavs lose this series I presume he will be a die hard Pistons fan next year.

I might be mistaken but didn't Llama use to claim the Lakers as his team as well until Shaq left?

ludo21
05-14-2006, 09:19 PM
Suns played piss poor game all around, and STILL almost made a comeback.

Cassell is a stud, and as usual came thru for the Clips. Game 5 is huge, Suns gotta hold home serve the rest of the way caz this is going 7 games!

redrage
05-15-2006, 07:19 AM
Timmy, would you like some cheese with that whine?

Spurs forward Tim Duncan
On fouling out at the end of the game:
It was incredibly frustrating because of the type of fouls that were being called down the stretch there. I didnít think they were fouls and then to sit with that with such a short clock.

On the sixth foul call:
He didnít fall into me. He didnít touch me Ė I didnít touch him. He tried to draw contact, I moved out of his way. If he stepped on my foot, he stepped on my foot. There was zero contact.
Yes Duncan does get a little animated when he doesn't gets some calls, but I don't recall a time EVER in his career when his beef wasn't legit. If Duncan is complaining then it almost 100% certain the ref got it wrong.

For a 2-time MVP and 3-time finals MVP, he doesn't get near the benefit of the doubt most NBA stars (Nowitski anyone?) seem to get from the refs. In fact it's almost silly the type of fouls he gets called for compared to the muggings he gets on offense. It's been that way for about 2-3 years now.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-15-2006, 07:42 AM
Yes Duncan does get a little animated when he doesn't gets some calls, but I don't recall a time EVER in his career when his beef wasn't legit. If Duncan is complaining then it almost 100% certain the ref got it wrong.

Ha! You have GOT to be ****ting me.Hilarious!

redrage
05-15-2006, 09:51 AM
Ha! You have GOT to be ****ting me.Hilarious!
Nope. Actually watch the replay sometime when he complains. He's almost always right.

Now, I will admit he does get away with some fouls (like most NBA superstars do), but when he has a beef about a no-call or a ticky tack foul it's usually legit.

Look at how many time he has touched the ball in this series down in the low post. As active as he is going hard to the basket and rebounding he should be seeing the foul line a MINIMUM of 15 times a game.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 09:52 AM
Ha! You have GOT to be ****ting me.Hilarious!

Give him a break, he is a :homer:

This time of the season, no basketball fan is able to take their blinders off.:~ohyah!:

bombay
05-15-2006, 10:09 AM
I'm done with the NBA for the season. I'm tired of the way officials 'shade' games during the playoffs. They made sure everyone gets to Witness at least one more LeBron James game this year.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:14 AM
I'm done with the NBA for the season. I'm tired of the way officials 'shade' games during the playoffs. They made sure everyone gets to Witness at least one more LeBron James game this year.


I know i want to Witness Lebron too. So at least they know what we want to watch. :thumbsup:

ro_50
05-15-2006, 11:34 AM
Nope. Actually watch the replay sometime when he complains. He's almost always right.

Now, I will admit he does get away with some fouls (like most NBA superstars do), but when he has a beef about a no-call or a ticky tack foul it's usually legit.

Look at how many time he has touched the ball in this series down in the low post. As active as he is going hard to the basket and rebounding he should be seeing the foul line a MINIMUM of 15 times a game.




Dont worry, all Mavs fans have their blinders on.

ro_50
05-15-2006, 12:50 PM
Things that bore me: Reality television, "wacky" morning radio shows, the very sight of Charlie Sheen.

You'll notice that Tim Duncan does not make the list.

In fact, I could list a million things that bore me -- ironing, Stone Phillips, Austria -- without mentioning Duncan.

I could list a million boring sports things -- cricket, free agency, throws to first to hold the runner -- and No. 21 for the San Antonio Spurs still would be nowhere near making an appearance.

I don't just respect Tim Duncan -- everyone does that. I'm entertained watching him play basketball.

I love the bank shots, the drop steps, the efficient post moves, the intelligent passes out of double-teams, the two-hand rebounds, the refusal to force anything. I've enjoyed watching him hang 31 points and 11 rebounds a game on the Dallas Mavericks in a ding-dong series so far, and I can't wait to see him play Monday night against the Mavs in what verges on a must-win playoff game.

This apparently makes me un-American enough that the NSA soon will be listening to my phone calls.

Enjoying Duncan runs counter to a state university-sized school of thought that says the most accomplished player in the NBA is test-pattern dull. Skip and Woody actually agreed on something last week on "Cold Pizza" -- that the Spurs (i.e., Duncan) are boring. And Madison Avenue clearly sees it that way, given its shunning of Duncan as a national pitchman.

Dwyane Wade will put you in a swell pair of shoes. Shaq will tell you how to care for your aching muscles. Even onetime pariah pitchman Kobe Bryant has made a commercial comeback, trading on his anti-hero status.

Just recently I've seen Kevin Garnett portray a platoon leader, a superhero and a standup comic. Funny, though, I've never seen him portray a pro basketball player in June.

Vince Carter is selling a wireless service during the playoffs. That's nice. When the Heat are finished with Carter and the Nets, he should have enough free minutes to call Duncan and ask him what winning a championship or three feels like.

I hear we're all witnesses to LeBron James' ascendance. While I won't dispute that, I'm wondering how commercial America failed to witness the Duncan phenomenon that preceded it.

The two-time league MVP and three-time NBA Finals MVP, the first player ever to be named first-team All-NBA in each of his first eight seasons as a pro, the guy who pushed himself through 80 regular-season games with plantar fasciitis, the perfect teammate, the caring community presence, the ideal face of a franchise? Guess he's too stoic and too solid to sell.

I look around the league and simply don't get it. I see repetitive stories about the anti-Duncans and yawn.

Thin man Allen Iverson and tin man Chris Webber blowing off Fan Appreciation Night in Philly? Shocker.

Overexposed and underprepared point guard Sebastian Telfair playing just 24 minutes a game for a 60-loss team? Hardly the stuff of books and documentaries, is it?

Larry Brown and Stephon Marbury hissing at each other through the tabloids during a train-wreck season? Utter boredom.

Amid this fool's parade, isn't there some love to be found for the Big Fundamental?

Yes. Turns out you can find it from predictable and unpredictable sources.

"I think he's very refreshing," said South Carolina's Dave Odom, who had Duncan for four years at Wake Forest. "What's different is refreshing, and he's different. It's gone 180 degrees now.

"He's fundamentally sound, a fearless, determined champion, someone who didn't feel like he already knew everything, who puts the team first -- those were throwback virtues and attributes. Those were things that made the old Celtic teams great, but today that's not true. Today's game is style over substance. He's the opposite. He's substance over style.

"I think he's appreciated. I don't think he's adored."

Unpredictable? How about Ron Artest, the NBA's Jesse James to Duncan's Wyatt Earp. The combustible Sacramento King told Dime Magazine this season that he likes the way Duncan plays.

Artest explained: "I remember one time Kevin Garnett was mushing him, and shoving him in the face; and Tim Duncan didn't do anything, he didn't react. He just kicked Kevin Garnett's a--, and won the damn championship. You know what I'm sayin'? That's gangsta. Everybody can show emotion, dunk on somebody, scream and be real cocky; but Tim Duncan is a ... he's a pimp."

Only the creative cloudy thinking of Ron Artest could put "Tim Duncan" and "pimp" in the same sentence -- but that's part of the big guy's marketability deficit. In terms of swagger, he's more plumber than pimp. He's as edgy as a sphere.

The closest he's come to being controversial is complaining about David Stern's new dress code (Duncan isn't comfortable without his shirttail hanging out, and he's not a suit-and-tie guy). He doesn't need big-city bling, being perfectly comfortable in the relative obscurity of San Antonio. And he's a lousy self-promoter.

"He doesn't let us into his life," said San Antonio Express-News columnist Buck Harvey. "Probably my first interview with him was as good as my last one. But in this business you can kind of respect that. He isn't trying to get in good with the media.

"My impression, if you were to know him as a teammate and a friend, he wouldn't be boring at all. He's very smart and has a great sense of humor. He just doesn't want to put that out there."

The Duncan we don't see is the guy who came over to Odom's house for dinner last October, the night before an exhibition game in Columbia, S.C. -- and fretted because he didn't have anything nicer to wear than his sweat suit. The Duncan we don't see sat in Odom's living room talking to the coach and his wife for hours after dinner, then dropped by South Carolina's practice the next day to work with the post men on a few drills.

Odom reports that the Gamecock players were not bored by Duncan's presence.

Turns out they're not alone. There might be a peasant revolution underway when it comes to Duncan and his Q Rating.

The latest issue of ESPN Magazine ran the results of a SportsNation poll identifying athletes with the most "cred." It's about as easily defined as porn -- we know it when we see it, to borrow from a former Supreme Court justice -- but it would seem to rank among the highest compliments you can pay a player.

My jaded assumption was that Duncan would rate depressingly low on the "cred" scale. Instead, he leads the league and ranks behind only Tiger Woods and Tom Brady among "SportsNation's most cred-carrying athletes."

I nearly wept. Boring, at last, is beautiful.

Pat Forde is a national columnist at ESPN.com.

redrage
05-15-2006, 02:20 PM
I remember a story about Duncan when he came into the league as the #1 pick. The Spurs sent him to some NBA developmental camp the summer before the season for rookies only. They wanted him to work on shooting with his left hand, turning to his left, etc. So Duncan went there and basically everytime he got the ball in a scrimmage he went left, struggled a bit and looked timid. Another big man who was a rookie at the time (Bryant Reeves maybe?) basically dominated him and there were very real whispers that Duncan may be a bust. Of course, he was just working on a weak part of his game and has been a dominate post player since then.

ro_50
05-15-2006, 04:12 PM
I remember a story about Duncan when he came into the league as the #1 pick. The Spurs sent him to some NBA developmental camp the summer before the season for rookies only. They wanted him to work on shooting with his left hand, turning to his left, etc. So Duncan went there and basically everytime he got the ball in a scrimmage he went left, struggled a bit and looked timid. Another big man who was a rookie at the time (Bryant Reeves maybe?) basically dominated him and there were very real whispers that Duncan may be a bust. Of course, he was just working on a weak part of his game and has been a dominate post player since then.


It was actually Greg Ostertag, who was on the Jazz summer league team.

TD finished w 0 points and he did everything left-handed that game.

ro_50
05-15-2006, 04:14 PM
If TD played in New York, LA or Chicago, he would be the object of the media' affection but he isnt.

He has been the best player of this generation, post MJ, along with Shaq.

People talk about LeBron, who will be great and already is, Wade, Kobe, Nash, whoever else.

TD's name goes ignored. Too bad because we have seen greatness for all of these years and too bad idiots who dont know about the game think he's boring.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 04:16 PM
TD is spoiled tho. If I was as great as he was, id be sooo pumped that i didnt have to deal with media BS. He has his money (because the SA org. and fans know and respect him) and he gets to live a good life without too much interefernce.

Lucky! Cant wait till tonight tho, series is fun to watch, as is Lebron!

Clockwork Orange
05-15-2006, 04:23 PM
If TD played in New York, LA or Chicago, he would be the object of the media' affection but he isnt.

He has been the best player of this generation, post MJ, along with Shaq.

People talk about LeBron, who will be great and already is, Wade, Kobe, Nash, whoever else.

TD's name goes ignored. Too bad because we have seen greatness for all of these years and too bad idiots who dont know about the game think he's boring.

You don't need hype when you've got hardware.....and Timmy's got plenty of that.

I'll take three rings, three Finals MVP's and two league MVP's over being the object of ESPN & Nike's affections.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 05:15 PM
Cavs v. Pistons is fun to watch.

Cleveland is playing very hard, and defensive game all the way. Cavs have gotta be able to get open and make their shots. Pistons playing zone D, so they will get their shots.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 05:19 PM
DID you see that BLOCK!!

HOLY COW!!

ro_50
05-15-2006, 05:19 PM
What a block. What a player.

Clockwork Orange
05-15-2006, 05:27 PM
Who blocked who? (I'm at work)

ludo21
05-15-2006, 05:41 PM
Lebron stuffed Rip, dont worry it will be on SC.

Sheed is hurt, went to locker room. Prob just a quick sprain.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 06:08 PM
Closed out the half with that 3.

Keepin it close is huge for the Cavs, need a solid 2nd half.

Come on CAVVSS!!

ludo21
05-15-2006, 07:09 PM
Another big block by Bron, wow!!

Coming down to the wire, awesome game!!

watermock
05-15-2006, 07:14 PM
Cleveland has suffered alot between the old browns and the new browns and the cavs. They are whoopin' it up big time! Place is goin' bonkers. Cleveland does have good fans.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 07:39 PM
what a game!!!!!

29 secs left!

Cleveland ball, Cavs up by 1.

WOO!!!!

jossjeff
05-15-2006, 07:40 PM
Rack my Clips for hanging in....

2-2 going back to Phoenix.

I'm thinking that whoever wins game 5 wins the series.

Kaman getting hurt actually may have saved the Clippers. He truly is lost in this series save one game. Magette is a much better starting option.

Takes Marion off Cassell and opens things up for my boys. Mike D knows his ****.

Going to Vegas this weekend and I have tickets to The DaVinci Code on Thurs night.

May ditch both to watch BB ball games. Or maybe find a sportsbook on SAT night. Have to make my annual bet on the Raiders winning the Super Bowl...Save it ****ers.....

I'm happy to see the L.A. stepchildren making a run.

How's that taste Jason In LA?

Unwar KOBE nutriders

ludo21
05-15-2006, 07:41 PM
eeeewwwwww

why settle for a jumper, screen n roll, something!!!!

Now pistons with ball chance for a win!!!

ludo21
05-15-2006, 07:44 PM
Definitely the Cavs are getting all the breaks. But it is the playoffs and they arent going to call that foul.....

but still....rip should be at the line...

O well, give me a 7 game series baby!!

jossjeff
05-15-2006, 07:44 PM
what a game!!!!!

29 secs left!

Cleveland ball, Cavs up by 1.

WOO!!!!

Yup great game

GonzoLays
05-15-2006, 07:45 PM
Who won?

GonzoLays
05-15-2006, 07:46 PM
Cleveland won?

watermock
05-15-2006, 07:46 PM
Le Brawn didn't have a great game but they squeaked it out.

jossjeff
05-15-2006, 07:47 PM
LeBron just isn't there in terms of big game production.

Give him a few years and he will own this league though.

Misses a key free throw.

I watched Kobe do the same thing vs. the Spurs back in the day.

His day will come.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 07:47 PM
Cavs won!

Man, i just cant hate JAmes, he is just a great person..

Bob's your Information Minister
05-15-2006, 08:57 PM
Nowitzki with 17 points at the half. What was that you were saying about him, GonzoLays?

ludo21
05-15-2006, 09:48 PM
Going into the 4th a VERY close game!

Another good one!

ludo21
05-15-2006, 09:59 PM
WOW!!

8-0 run, SA right back in it!

watermock
05-15-2006, 10:04 PM
Rough game. Great BB tonight.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:07 PM
JCM, i see you down there.....whats goin on with Detroit? 2 losses in a row to Cavs?

fun, fun game....Spurs are sooooo boring, dont seem to have any threat on O, but they keep pounding away.

watermock
05-15-2006, 10:18 PM
Refs are trying to throw this game. And I'm rooting for Dallas

ro_50
05-15-2006, 10:19 PM
You got to be kidding ME, TD THREE FOULS IN THE FOURTH.

That was a freaking charge on freaking Dirk.

I swear, when did Dirk become MJ.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:19 PM
Ugly officiating, at times this guy looks lost.

TD called for a foul, he took that charge!

SAGE
05-15-2006, 10:19 PM
lol, the Spurs even LOOK at Dallas funny, its a foul.

ro_50
05-15-2006, 10:21 PM
When did Dirk get all the calls.

TD gets called for two cheesy fouls on offense while setting screens.

I will love to see Mavs fans whine about the calling in this game.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-15-2006, 10:24 PM
Sit down, Ginobitch.

JCMElway
05-15-2006, 10:25 PM
JCM, i see you down there.....whats goin on with Detroit? 2 losses in a row to Cavs?

fun, fun game....Spurs are sooooo boring, dont seem to have any threat on O, but they keep pounding away.

OK Lud, you caught me lurking. Heh.

I don't know man. Detroit should have come out much stronger. Maybe they're respecting Lebron too much? Maybe Lebron is making that much of a difference. I'm gonna hate playing that guy in 2-3 years.

I still don't see Detroit losing the series, but it is annoying.

But I'm definetly willing to take my lumps for Detroit losing a game they should have won. So, open season boys!

SAGE
05-15-2006, 10:25 PM
HAHAHAHAHA

Acting job of the century for Terry.

ro_50
05-15-2006, 10:28 PM
These foul calls. Please stop w/ this madness.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:31 PM
OK Lud, you caught me lurking. Heh.

I don't know man. Detroit should have come out much stronger. Maybe they're respecting Lebron too much? Maybe Lebron is making that much of a difference. I'm gonna hate playing that guy in 2-3 years.

I still don't see Detroit losing the series, but it is annoying.

But I'm definetly willing to take my lumps for Detroit losing a game they should have won. So, open season boys!


I expected to see a ton of fire from them today. And its not that their not, caz they are.

But the Cavs are tightening the D, and the O is just hitting more shots unlike games 1 & 2.

Lebron is a stud, and the team really is growing in fron of our eyes. I mean, they are benching Gooden and Ilgauskas, and getting it done with bench guys. So the youngens are the guys playing hard.

108-107, SA ahead, they need a score here! Fun games tonight without a doubt!

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:33 PM
wow!

Parker was open and he threw it away! Then Terry for 2!

23 ticks left, just go to TIMMY!

JCMElway
05-15-2006, 10:33 PM
23 secs left. If history is any teacher the Spurs at least get a bucket to go up by one here with not much time left.

watermock
05-15-2006, 10:36 PM
Two great games tonight.

ro_50
05-15-2006, 10:36 PM
Well, Finley just hit a big shot.

Just one stop guys, come on.

ro_50
05-15-2006, 10:38 PM
Dear Lord, Dirk Get A ****ing Call.

How Is That A Foul.


Dflkjasdflk;jaslf;sj

ro_50
05-15-2006, 10:39 PM
Someone tell me how is that a foul.

I love for these bandwagon Mavs fans to tell me the officiating has been consistent.

That was a piss poor call on Bowen.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:39 PM
Ha!

8 ticks left, so much time left! TD, TD, TD!!!

The kick out, or force it!

ozomulsion
05-15-2006, 10:41 PM
Dirk fouled Finley and they call the foul on Finley! Unbelievable!!!

JCMElway
05-15-2006, 10:41 PM
Hmmmm....Maybe I need some different avatar mojo.....

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:43 PM
Hmmmm....Maybe I need some different avatar mojo.....

Heres one for reverse mojo!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/buck/img/apr04/2leb402.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jsonline.com/sports/buck/aug04/248321.asp&h=786&w=822&sz=127&tbnid=C0nHnDUMk3dprM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=143&hl=en&start=9&prev=/images%3Fq%3DLebron%2Bjames%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den %26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2003-47,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN

Bob's your Information Minister
05-15-2006, 10:44 PM
Duncan choked.

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA113051523_640x480.jpg

watermock
05-15-2006, 10:44 PM
I saw some questionable calls Detroit, altho I was pulling for the cavs.

JCMElway
05-15-2006, 10:47 PM
OK, that's it for me kids. Ro, don't get too riled up. Llama, I know you'll be in here after the game, take it easy on everyone of the Mavs pull it out.

Ludo, you da man.

Good night now!

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:51 PM
OK, that's it for me kids. Ro, don't get too riled up. Llama, I know you'll be in here after the game, take it easy on everyone of the Mavs pull it out.

Ludo, you da man.

Good night now!


Night bro'!

Im pullin for the Cavs, but Pistons will win. so sleep well! ;D

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:55 PM
need a 3 here!

Wow, Mavs may go up 3-1, wow! woulda thunk?!!

Mavs are forcing the game to be played fast, not Spur style. That has gotta change or Spurs will lose the series.

Even if they lose here, they still have 2 more at home, so i wouldnt count out the Spurs either.

ludo21
05-15-2006, 10:58 PM
Like I said, 3 games left, 2 in SA. Do NOT count the Spurs out at ALL!

Bob's your Information Minister
05-15-2006, 10:59 PM
I said this series was over last night.

It is.

WaffleBoy
05-15-2006, 11:02 PM
My flat-footed Spurs are done.

Note to Pop: Get a shot blocker and rebounder (Theo Ratliff)

The Boy Wonder :super:

Bob's your Information Minister
05-15-2006, 11:02 PM
After the Mavs lose this series

WHAT? WHAT?

THE BEST IN THE WEST

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA109051523_1024x768.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
05-15-2006, 11:05 PM
I just think the Spurs are going to be the Mavs. I am a 100% certain that San Antonio will prevail in this series.

I am just amazed by the fact that the Mavs were able to steal two games from the Spurs.


ROFL!

Maybe we should change your name to "GonzoLays The Information Minister."

SoCalBronco
05-15-2006, 11:05 PM
Nice Avatar and sig line, Waffle.

Cutler might be the first Bronco draft pick youve actually liked since the time you have been here.

RhymesayersDU
05-15-2006, 11:06 PM
Major props to the Mavs. They are slaying their demon.

The way I see it, the same rules apply as applied in the Suns/Lakers series: Mavericks have 2 chances to close it out in games 5 and 6. I said if the Suns series went 7 the Suns would win, and I think the same holds true here. If the Spurs win 2 straight and take it back to San Antonio, I think they win the series.

With that said, I don't see this series going 7. Spurs might make things interesting with a win in game 5, but this series won't make it past 6.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-15-2006, 11:09 PM
Best part of this game was Tony Parker bricking two free throws with the game on the line in overtime. CHOKE FRENCH WEASEL! AUGH HAUGH HAUGH!!!

watermock
05-15-2006, 11:14 PM
That's a serious if.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-15-2006, 11:37 PM
For angryllama:

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA133051601_1024x768.jpg

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA134051601_1024x768.jpg

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA136051601_1024x768.jpg

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA135051601_1024x768.jpg

ZachKC
05-15-2006, 11:41 PM
I love it

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-15-2006, 11:53 PM
I don't think I've ever been to 2 more exciting basketball games than these last 2 were. Amazing.

San Antonio is out of gas.

ZachKC
05-16-2006, 12:18 AM
I don't think I've ever been to 2 more exciting basketball games than these last 2 were. Amazing.

San Antonio is out of gas.
The stuff is pretty expensive.

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2006, 12:20 AM
Thanks Bob. Great post game images as usual.

For all the angryllama talk on this board, you would think that I had my own anti-fan club. It's nice to know that I've become a lightning rod on that level. ;D

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2006, 12:23 AM
I don't think I've ever been to 2 more exciting basketball games than these last 2 were. Amazing.

San Antonio is out of gas.

Classics. This series has been top-notch. NBA basketball doesnt get better than this. There are thick plotlines everywhere and great play at levels only the greats can aspire to. Wonderful stuff. This is Celtics/Lakers and Bulls/Knicks stuff.

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2006, 12:33 AM
JCM, Ive taken it easy on these guys. Lord forbid someone actually bring something more than "Lakers and Kobe rule!" or "Steve Nash is the greatest!" to the table when they talk basketball. Bringing legit NBA discussion into this place throws everything out of whack. Its so out of whack that these guys are probably still convincing themselves that everything I say is wrong even though it is unfolding alot like I have predicted.

Why deny the truth? Just accept it and move on. ;D

WaffleBoy
05-16-2006, 05:40 AM
JCM, Ive taken it easy on these guys. Lord forbid someone actually bring something more than "Lakers and Kobe rule!" or "Steve Nash is the greatest!" to the table when they talk basketball. Bringing legit NBA discussion into this place throws everything out of whack. Its so out of whack that these guys are probably still convincing themselves that everything I say is wrong even though it is unfolding alot like I have predicted.

Why deny the truth? Just accept it and move on. ;D

The Mavs won, but the Refs sure get the game ball on the phantom foul against Bruce. 5 more minutes without Manu sealed the game.

The Boy Wonder :super:

redrage
05-16-2006, 05:44 AM
Wow that was a hard game to stomach if you are a Spurs fan. Someone tell me I was wrong about Duncan. He got away with a few calls, but the last three fouls they called on him (swiping a hand away (???), a moving screen (was he moving???), and taking the charge on an out of control Dirk Jordan Nowitzi) were crazy. If anyone taped the game, take a look at what the Dallas centers are getting away with when Harris drives to the basket. They block Duncan all the way to the other side of the lane. Cowboys guard Larry Allen must moonlight as an assistant coach.

Well, in spite of all that, SA had their shots and literally threw them away. I haven't seen this team execute so poorly down the stretch in a long time.

I know this sounds like sour grapes but you can tell when a team's time has come merely by the way the bounces (calls) seem to go. When Shaq and Kobe merged with Phil, they were tough, but utterly unstoppable when you throw in the calls they were able get (Sacramento Game 6 anyone?). SA definately was able to get generous calls the last few years and that aided their championship run. Looks as if it is Dallas's turn.

Even if SA had won, they were going to have to hold serve at home anyway. Now they got to try a take one in Dallas as well. If they get that chance.

OrangeShadow
05-16-2006, 06:07 AM
The stuff is pretty expensive.

LOL

ro_50
05-16-2006, 06:19 AM
I will not complain about the officiating anymore. I rewound the 4th quarter and just shook in amazement at some of the calls, especially the ones that went against Duncan.

But still, despite the shady calls, Spurs had a chance to win this game at the end of regulation, just like game 3 and they stumble down the stretch.

I have to give the Mavs credit, their guards have been outstanding and they have created many mismatches on the Spurs defense, which has been befuddled the past three games.

I wont complain anymore about the officiating, you have to play through that and championship teams do that.

I never thought the Spurs would struggle like this on defense, I knew the Mavs have many offensive weopens, but they are exposing the Spurs D.

And I'm happy for AJ, probably more so than Mavs fans are. I met the guy years ago after a Spurs game and you knew one day he was going to be a good head coach. It sucks he's a Mavs coach.

Its interesting to see the Mavs play w/ the toughness the Spurs have exhibited through the years.

AJ brought this team the toughness it was missing from the Nellie years.

I have to give them all the credit and I want to apologize for my complaining.

I guess when games are played a high level, like the last two have been, you let your emotions get the better of you.

Well, Spurs have to win three straight. The odds are stacked against them BIG TIME and they have to do it against a 60-win team.

Well, I guess its one game at a time.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 06:21 AM
I will not complain about the officiating anymore. I rewound the 4th quarter and just shook in amazement at some of the calls, especially the ones that went against Duncan.

But still, despite the shady calls, Spurs had a chance to win this game at the end of regulation, just like game 3 and they stumble down the stretch.

I have to give the Mavs credit, their guards have been outstanding and they have created many mismatches on the Spurs defense, which has been befuddled the past three games.

I wont complain anymore about the officiating, you have to play through that and championship teams do that.

I never thought the Spurs would struggle like this on defense, I knew the Mavs have many offensive weopens, but they are exposing the Spurs D.

And I'm happy for AJ, probably more so than Mavs fans are. I met the guy years ago after a Spurs game and you knew one day he was going to be a good head coach. It sucks he's a Mavs coach.

Its interesting to see the Mavs play w/ the toughness the Spurs have exhibited through the years.

AJ brought this team the toughness it was missing from the Nellie years.

I have to give them all the credit and I want to apologize for my complaining.

I guess when games are played a high level, like the last two have been, you let your emotions get the better of you.

Well, Spurs have to win three straight. The odds are stacked against them BIG TIME and they have to do it against a 60-win team.

Well, I guess its one game at a time.
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ro_50
05-16-2006, 06:27 AM
When did Bob become a Mavs fan? Just a question?

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 06:32 AM
When did Bob become a Mavs fan? Just a question?

Two words: Popeye Jones.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 06:44 AM
Two words: Popeye Jones.

Two, well three words: Are you serious?

I got to see him play in the NCAA Tournament way back in the day when he was a Murray St. Racer.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 07:06 AM
Two, well three words: Are you serious?


Two words: Jamal Mashburn.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 07:06 AM
Two words: Jamal Mashburn.


Two words: Jimmy Clemons.

Nuggets4
05-16-2006, 07:26 AM
As soon as I saw Dick Bavetta, I knew the Spurs were in for a rough night. It's like the man has tourette's syndrome with his whistle.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 07:36 AM
Two words: Jimmy Clemons.

Two words: DICK MOTTA!

Montaq
05-16-2006, 07:58 AM
Another great game last night. I was so pumped after the game that I couldn't sleep.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 08:05 AM
Two words: DICK MOTTA!

Two words: Mark Aguirre.

Dont worry, I can keep on doing this all day.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 08:05 AM
Just a question, you wonder why the Mavs are getting the calls in the fourth, the secret is out about Dirk and Bavetta.:rofl:



http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8060/57534012cc018game4sanan0516001.jpg

ro_50
05-16-2006, 08:07 AM
Now we see why the calls have been heavily towards the Mavs favor the past two games in the fourth quarter.;)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8060/57534012cc018game4sanan0516001.jpg

55CrushEm
05-16-2006, 08:08 AM
Dirk's a ****ing warrior.

And this kid is fast as lightning!

http://images2.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/DNA124051400_1024x768.jpg

What a dork.....do all these little S H I T S all wear uniforms nowadays that are even too big for Shaquille O'Neal ??? Is this so they can hide their doobage and rap mixer in there ??

55CrushEm
05-16-2006, 08:09 AM
Now we see why the calls have been heavily towards the Mavs favor the past two games in the fourth quarter.;)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8060/57534012cc018game4sanan0516001.jpg

You've got that right.....

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 08:30 AM
Two words: Mark Aguirre.

Dont worry, I can keep on doing this all day.

I used to be a huge Jason Kidd fan. If Mavericks message boards had existed when he was in Dallas, I would have been homering out of control defending his poor shooting night and day.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 08:38 AM
I used to be a huge Jason Kidd fan. If Mavericks message boards had existed when he was in Dallas, I would have been homering out of control defending his poor shooting night and day.


Two words: Derek Harper.

I remember when they had JK, Jimmy Jackson and Mash on the same team.

And Clemons came aboard, I thought those three were destined to do great things - TOGETHER..

Too bad Roy Tarpley never got his career going because of the drugs and that wasted pick of Doug White, what a bust.

Master___Pain
05-16-2006, 08:43 AM
Bob, you are such a bandwagon POS. It so laughable, this thread is a great read aside from Bob. Spurs and Mavs fans going back and forth, got to love the playoffs.

This series does look like it's over, the Spurs just seem to be running on empty.

Nuggets4
05-16-2006, 08:56 AM
Bavetta's a joke. There's a reason he got the nickname "The Cooler". I was surprised he was reffing last night's game to be brutally honest. Usually the NBA saves him for when they're trying to prevent a sweep because they know that he's influenced by the crowd.

The only good thing about the officiating in the playoffs is that we haven't seen Violet Palmer.

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 09:27 AM
Can you believe that bull**** call on Bowen last night? Dirk had HIS ARM into Bowen, pushing him to the basket and they call the foul on the defender? That is absolute lunacy. And to make that call with under 10 seconds left in the game is unbelievable. It looks like all the yapping by Cuban has finally got to the refs and they are now afraid of "not calling" a call that could go either way and in Bowens case the was a clear offensive foul on the bumbling, barely speaka eenngalish Nowitzki.

Even with the officials clearly on the Mavs side, I still see the Spurs winning this series. All they have to do is win game 6 in Dallas. Which, as you guys have seen, they are very capable of. It is a forgone conclusion that Spurs are going to pound the Mavs in Game 5 in San Antonio. The Mavs can't beat the Spurs in a game 7 in San Antonio.

Raider Bill
05-16-2006, 09:32 AM
" Put him in the ****in' bathroom..."

" If it wasnt for bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all..."



http://www.ginoscafe.com/coffeecake&mush.jpg LOL

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 09:40 AM
Even with the officials clearly on the Mavs side, I still see the Spurs winning this series. All they have to do is win game 6 in Dallas. Which, as you guys have seen, they are very capable of. It is a forgone conclusion that Spurs are going to pound the Mavs in Game 5 in San Antonio. The Mavs can't beat the Spurs in a game 7 in San Antonio.

LOL

I can't wait to quote this again this week. The Spurs gave everything they had last night and it wasn't good enough. They're exhaused from a strategy standpoint. The Mavericks are CLEARLY the better team.

Now, all that is left for the Mavericks to do is....

FINISH HIM!

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5828/mk2fatality0pq.png (http://imageshack.us)

ro_50
05-16-2006, 09:40 AM
Can you believe that bull**** call on Bowen last night? Dirk had HIS ARM into Bowen, pushing him to the basket and they call the foul on the defender? That is absolute lunacy. And to make that call with under 10 seconds left in the game is unbelievable. It looks like all the yapping by Cuban has finally got to the refs and they are now afraid of "not calling" a call that could go either way and in Bowens case the was a clear offensive foul and the bumbling, barely speaka eenngalish Nowitzki.

Even with the officials clearly on the Mavs side, I still see the Spurs winning this series. All they have to do is win game 6 in Dallas. Which, as you guys have seen, they are very capable of. It is a forgone conclusion that Spurs are going to pound the Mavs in Game 5 in San Antonio. The Mavs can't beat the Spurs in a game 7 in San Antonio.

I have an friend who I have met in the sports world. He's a college referee, does SEC games. He saw the game last night. He emailed today and told me, "I dont think in 15 years of officiating I've seen controversial calls like that in the final minutes of the past two games."

And he's not even an Spurs fan, in fact, he's a Rockets fan.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 09:41 AM
LOL

I can't wait to quote this. The Spurs gave everything they had last night and it wasn't good enough. They're exhaused from a strategy standpoint. The Mavericks are CLEARLY the better team.

Now, all that is left for the Mavericks to do is....

FINISH HIM!

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5828/mk2fatality0pq.png (http://imageshack.us)


get more foul calls.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 09:42 AM
Bob, you are such a bandwagon POS. .

Dick Motta. **** you.

Master___Pain
05-16-2006, 09:47 AM
Dick Motta. **** you.

Funny how until the Mav's get to the second round you have not been involved in any of the numerous Dirk/Mavs threads that have litered this board. You are a bandwagon POS, and the fact that you can use google to look up a former mavs coach means jack ****. So **** you gloryboy.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 09:51 AM
It looks like all the yapping by Cuban has finally got to the refs and they are now afraid of "not calling" a call that could go either way and in Bowens case the was a clear offensive foul and the bumbling, barely speaka eenngalish Nowitzki.

What a joke. The Spurs have been getting all the calls for the better part of the new millenium. They whine like big babies when they are called for almost any foul, legit or not.

Game 1 in this series featured refereeing clearly slanted in San Antonio's series. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, how does it feel? Payback's a bitch.

My favorite refereeing moment in last night's game was when the Spurs missed a shot that CLEARLY did not hit the rim. The refs still renwed the 24-second shot clock.

San Antonio got the ball and almost IMMEDIATELY they were called for an offensive foul.

Payback.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 09:54 AM
Funny how until the Mav's get to the second round you have not been involved in any of the numerous Dirk/Mavs threads that have litered this board. You are a bandwagon POS, and the fact that you can use google to look up a former mavs coach means jack ****. So **** you gloryboy.

Heh. Google. That's rich.

No my friend. I've been a Mavericks fan since they were winning 13 games a year back in the early 90's. I didn't really care to comment on the first series because I knew they were going to win. The grizzlies were pushovers.

Rebound, slam and jam! I'm a Dallas Mavericks fan! (for the ignorant, that's part of an original radio promo that the Mavericks' station ran back in the 90s. Any TRUE Mavericks fan on these forums that was living in Dallas at the time can probably verify).

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 09:58 AM
Two words: Derek Harper.

I remember when they had JK, Jimmy Jackson and Mash on the same team.

And Clemons came aboard, I thought those three were destined to do great things - TOGETHER..

Too bad Roy Tarpley never got his career going because of the drugs and that wasted pick of Doug White, what a bust.

What was really pathetic was when they brought back Derek Harper at the end of his career...and he was one of the better players on the team. LOL

The three J's were idolized in Dallas...and two of them went to other teams and were no better than bit-players.

My favorite Mavs game of all time was back in 93 or 94...can't remember when, but I think they won about 15 games that year. Popeye Jones laid in the game winning shot against the heavily favored Bulls and Reunion Arena went wild. Reunion Arena was one of the loudest basketball arenas ever...