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ro_50
05-16-2006, 10:00 AM
What a joke. The Spurs have been getting all the calls for the better part of the new millenium. They whine like big babies when they are called for almost any foul, legit or not.



Blah, blah, blah, Its amazing how Mavs fan never contend their players complain about the calls. You have an owner who is the biggest baby of them and blogs about the officiating and gets fined and presto, the calls go for them.

Bob, Josh Howard was crying all night last night about the calls.

Every player complains about the calls. The Mavs do it, the Spurs do it, every team does it.

BTW, The Spurs won those championships not because of the officiating but because they were the best team those years.

Master___Pain
05-16-2006, 10:03 AM
Heh. Google. That's rich.

No my friend. I've been a Mavericks fan since they were winning 13 games a year back in the early 90's. I didn't really care to comment on the first series because I knew they were going to win. The grizzlies were pushovers.

Rebound, slam and jam! I'm a Dallas Mavericks fan! (for the ignorant, that's part of an original radio promo that the Mavericks' station ran back in the 90s. Any TRUE Mavericks fan on these forums that was living in Dallas at the time can probably verify).

I should check the hockey thread to see which teams bandwagon you've jumped on.


And I am not talking about the first series you dolt, I am talking about the over abundant number of threads all season long that have talked about Dirk and the Mavs. You been conspicuously absent from those threads....perhaps because you are a gloryboy?

ro_50
05-16-2006, 10:06 AM
Here is another classic Dirk picture.

http://www.slamonline.com/links/dirkncheeks.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 10:06 AM
Blah, blah, blah, Its amazing how Mavs fan never contend their players complain about the calls. You have an owner who is the biggest baby of them and blogs about the officiating and gets fined and presto, the calls go for them.


That's a joke. Cuban's a bitch for sure but he's been complaining about the refs and getting fined for it for years now.

The Spurs are the NBA's biggest babies. Even a local talk-show radio host here, who is a Spurs fan, admitted it (Craig Miller of KTCK 1310AM). He said he was sick of it and it was embarrassing.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 10:07 AM
What was really pathetic was when they brought back Derek Harper at the end of his career...and he was one of the better players on the team. LOL

The three J's were idolized in Dallas...and two of them went to other teams and were no better than bit-players.

My favorite Mavs game of all time was back in 93 or 94...can't remember when, but I think they won about 15 games that year. Popeye Jones laid in the game winning shot against the heavily favored Bulls and Reunion Arena went wild. Reunion Arena was one of the loudest basketball arenas ever...


I remember when they brought him back. That was pretty amazing to see him as one of their best players despite being up in age.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 10:10 AM
That's a joke. Cuban's a b**** for sure but he's been complaining about the refs and getting fined for it for years now.

The Spurs are the NBA's biggest babies. Even a local talk-show radio host here, who is a Spurs fan, admitted it (Craig Miller of KTCK 1310AM). He said he was sick of it and it was embarrassing.



First off, I give as much respect to radio talk-show hosts as I do to OJ Simpson, which is none.

Every team whines and complains about the officiating.

Do you want me to replay last night's game, I will venture to say both teams whined about the officiating pretty evenly.

I admit TD gets upset w/ calls, Manu does as well and the others. But to say the Mavs players do not complain as well is laughable.

Again, Mavs fans w/ blinders.

They are all the same.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 10:14 AM
I should check the hockey thread to see which teams bandwagon you've jumped on.

I hate hockey. I own a Stars jersey just to own one, but I could never get into it.

And I am not talking about the first series you dolt, I am talking about the over abundant number of threads all season long that have talked about Dirk and the Mavs. You been conspicuously absent from those threads....perhaps because you are a gloryboy?

It's true I've been absent from those threads. I don't watch regular season NBA basketball. It's pathetic. I DO watch the playoffs.

I put in my time when the Mavericks were winning 13 games a year. I'm justified. :pfbbt:

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-16-2006, 10:15 AM
Bob lives in Dallas? Did I know that?

ro_50
05-16-2006, 10:17 AM
I hate hockey. I own a Stars jersey just to own one, but I could never get into it.



It's true I've been absent from those threads. I don't watch regular season NBA basketball. It's pathetic. I DO watch the playoffs.

I put in my time when the Mavericks were winning 13 games a year. I'm justified. :pfbbt:


Ok, there you go, you just watch it when the playoffs come around. Come on. Most true fans of their teams watch the teams during the season.:thanku:

At least Llama does.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 10:17 AM
Bob lives in Dallas? Did I know that?
I live in Houston

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 10:21 AM
Ok, there you go, you just watch it when the playoffs come around. Come on. Most true fans of their teams watch the teams during the season.:thanku:

At least Llama does.

Llama use to be a Chicago Bulls fan. He became a Mavs fan this season after they started winning games. Atleast Bob stuck with his team through the tough years.

Master___Pain
05-16-2006, 10:24 AM
It's true I've been absent from those threads. I don't watch regular season NBA basketball. It's pathetic. I DO watch the playoffs.


The above is the definition of a bandwagon gloryboy. I am glad you could outline it so well.

Okay, now that we've established that bob is a bandwagon fan, it's time to get back on track and talk NBA playoffs.

The cavs are giving Detroit all the pistons want right now...perhaps the Pistons are not as good as advertised?

The Heat can get to the ECC tonight with a win over the Nets.

The Mavs look like a lock for the WCC...but who will they face?

Can the Clippers get past the Suns? I think they can and thaey can give the Mavs a hell of a series too. The Suns are doing it with smoke and mirrors right now but have home court in the series. I think the Clips can take it though.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 10:28 AM
The above is the definition of a bandwagon gloryboy. I am glad you could outline it so well.


A bandwagon fan JUMPS BANDWAGONS. I've never rooted for another NBA team.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 10:29 AM
The Mavericks play better defense and match up better when they have the ball if they face the Suns. It'll be a high scoring series though.

Devin Harris will shine...Steve Nash can't take him.

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 10:30 AM
The above is the definition of a bandwagon gloryboy. I am glad you could outline it so well.

Okay, now that we've established that bob is a bandwagon fan, it's time to get back on track and talk NBA playoffs.

The cavs are giving Detroit all the pistons want right now...perhaps the Pistons are not as good as advertised?

The Heat can get to the ECC tonight with a win over the Nets.

The Mavs look like a lock for the WCC...but who will they face?

Can the Clippers get past the Suns? I think they can and thaey can give the Mavs a hell of a series too. The Suns are doing it with smoke and mirrors right now but have home court in the series. I think the Clips can take it though.

The Cavs are tough for one simple reason -- Lebron. He is a matchup nightmare. He has Ben Wallace's height and build and the ability of a point guard. Their offense is simple, throw the ball to Lebron, everyone spread out and let him create offense. They have enough shooters to keep the double teams honest. With that being said, I still think the Pistons are going to win the next two games and advance to the finals against the spurs.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 10:31 AM
I still think the Pistons are going to win the next two games and advance to the finals against the spurs.
LOL

ro_50
05-16-2006, 10:34 AM
The above is the definition of a bandwagon gloryboy. I am glad you could outline it so well.

Okay, now that we've established that bob is a bandwagon fan, it's time to get back on track and talk NBA playoffs.

The cavs are giving Detroit all the pistons want right now...perhaps the Pistons are not as good as advertised?

The Heat can get to the ECC tonight with a win over the Nets.

The Mavs look like a lock for the WCC...but who will they face?

Can the Clippers get past the Suns? I think they can and thaey can give the Mavs a hell of a series too. The Suns are doing it with smoke and mirrors right now but have home court in the series. I think the Clips can take it though.

I have been impressed w/ the way the Heat have bounced back. They could be a much tougher matchup for the Pistons, provided they get past the Cavs, than I originally figured.

Out west, I think if the Mavs matchup well w/ both teams, the Suns and Clippers.

But I think the Clipps will give them a tougher mathcup.

I see the Mavs taking that series in 6 if it happens that way.

But as a Spurs fan, I have hope, believe in the impossible.

Montaq
05-16-2006, 10:36 AM
Llama use to be a Chicago Bulls fan. He became a Mavs fan this season after they started winning games. Atleast Bob stuck with his team through the tough years.

The Mavericks just started winning this season?

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 10:43 AM
A bandwagon fan JUMPS BANDWAGONS. I've never rooted for another NBA team.

exhibit A:

Was I supposed to pull for Dallas in the playoffs? They had a couple of great 20-win seasons during that stretch and the mixture of Kidd/Jackson/Mashburn was unbearable on and off of the court. Living in Oklahoma, the only local sports I had to keep up with were OU sports.
I was definately an MJ(Chicago Bulls)fan. How could you not be?

Master___Pain
05-16-2006, 10:43 AM
A bandwagon fan JUMPS BANDWAGONS. I've never rooted for another NBA team.

Okay, perhaps fair weather is a better term for you.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 10:47 AM
Okay, perhaps fair weather is a better term for you.

Not really. The Mavericks won sixty games this year and I didn't see one of them. I saw all 11 of their wins in 1993, though.

Master___Pain
05-16-2006, 10:51 AM
Not really. The Mavericks won sixty games this year and I didn't see one of them. I saw all 11 of their wins in 1993, though.

You did not watch one Mavs game this year?

ro_50
05-16-2006, 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by Angryllama
Was I supposed to pull for Dallas in the playoffs? They had a couple of great 20-win seasons during that stretch and the mixture of Kidd/Jackson/Mashburn was unbearable on and off of the court. Living in Oklahoma, the only local sports I had to keep up with were OU sports.
I was definately an MJ(Chicago Bulls)fan. How could you not be?


You got to be kidding, Llama really said that. When? Was it recently.

I admired and respected MJ but couldn't stand the Bulls. They use to always kick the Spurs butts in the 90's.

If this true, I have lost the respect (not that much to begin w/) I had for Llama.

GEEZ. I've been a Spurs fan since 1989-90 when I was 10. I went through that 96-97 injury marred year and Spurs have had good fortune w/ the lottery (the Admiral and TD) but you know I will be rooting for them once their run is done.

I cant stand bangwagon fans and hoppers. I know misery, I'm a Cleveland Indians fan.

I went through all of those years as a Spurs fan when they couldnt win the big game. They were the Mavs of a decade earlier.

Freaking Rod Strickland's behind-the-back pass in game 7 of the 1990 Western Conference Semis, the meltdown in 94 against the Jazz in the first round.

And dont get me started on Hakeem, he is still abusing the Admiral in the 95 WCF in the back of my mind.

And the Spurs-Lakers battles through the years. My stereotype of Mavs fans are further enchanced by Llama and Bob.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Not really. The Mavericks won sixty games this year and I didn't see one of them. I saw all 11 of their wins in 1993, though.


I dont know what is more amazing, the fact you didnt even watch one game of the Mavs this season or the fact you are a Broncos fan in disguise.

And why you always keep harboring back to 1993.

Boobs McGee
05-16-2006, 11:07 AM
well, dammit, i haven't been posting about the NBA for a week or so because i've been heartbroken. My Nuggs got their asses handed to them. I had to watch my lakers get dismantled in the midst of 11 drunk suns fans. I'm a beaten man.

On top of that, the player I hate the most in the NBA, dirk ****ing nowitski, is putting on the best postseason of his career. Damn you llama, and damn you rulon ;D You can both suck a big fatty.

All in all, this has been on of the best postseasons in memory for me. TREMENDOUS games, heartbreaking upsets, buzzer beaters, spectacular D, rediculous shooting, rivalries, hard fouls, horrible officiating, fantastic bench production...I seriously have been enjoying these games more than any other postseason.

Lebron is flat out sick. That kid is truly incredible. He's had two triple doubles in his first postseason appearance, and is on his way to defeating one of the most solid teams in the league. unbelievable.

I swear the clippers we're going to be the clippers again when they all but squandered a 13 point lead in the forth, but once again the alien comes up big in the playoffs, and they even the series. THAT is going 7 games.

it really pains me to say this, but the Mavs look like they're out to stop the madness this year. Not so much that I guess, but the spurs just look old. I was under the impression that they'd come out and beat the crap out of Dirk and co, but man oh man they just can't finish. Dirk just won't stop. ugh.

Anyways, three cheers for a ****ing fantastic two rounds of NBA Postseason Play thus far....it just keeps getting better and better.

and bob, you suck big donkey dick

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:11 AM
And its not even the Finals yet!!

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-16-2006, 11:12 AM
Did I just get a shoutout?

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 11:29 AM
You got to be kidding, Llama really said that. When? Was it recently.

I admired and respected MJ but couldn't stand the Bulls. They use to always kick the Spurs butts in the 90's.

If this true, I have lost the respect (not that much to begin w/) I had for Llama.




That is what I don't get about bandwagon fans. How do you live and die with the Chicago Bulls for 10 years and then all of a sudden switch alliances and act as if you the most hardcore Mavs fan in America? He was a Bulls fan then, when the going got tough, he jumped on the upstart Mavericks bandwagon. And now he posts 20 times a day about the Mavs. If the Broncos started to lose he would jump on the Cowboys bandwagon.

Atleast Rulon Velvet Jones and Boob stayed with their teams through thick and thin.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 12:02 PM
That is what I don't get about bandwagon fans. How do you live and die with the Chicago Bulls for 10 years and then all of a sudden switch alliances and act as if you the most hardcore Mavs fan in America? He was a Bulls fan then, when the going got tough, he jumped on the upstart Mavericks bandwagon. And now he posts 20 times a day about the Mavs. If the Broncos started to lose he would jump on the Cowboys bandwagon.

Atleast Rulon Velvet Jones and Boob stayed with their teams through thick and thin.


If he did that, then thats awful. He turned his back on the Bulls, who are not that shabby anymore.

But this happens a lot, you dont see Bulls fans anymore. They were everywhere during the 90's and when their run ended, a lot of the hoppers hopped off.

They still sell out regularly and still have a decent fan base.

I remember when the Spurs first won the title in 1999, the feeling you got from being a fan for so many years. I know fans are not part of the team, we're not athletes or anything. But its great to see a team you root for finally win it after struggling for so many years.

To bad bangwagon or fairweather fans dont feel the same when their team wins.

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2006, 12:59 PM
What a bunch of goobers! You guys are now trying hard to slander my fandom? Hah!

Just FYI, I became a Mavericks fan when I moved to Texas in '89. I was also a Micheal Jordan fan because I lived in a non-NBA city and saw all of the nationally telecast Bulls games. Jordan was a phenomenal player. How could you not hang on every shot? Call that what you will, but it doesnt bother me any.

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2006, 01:10 PM
My favorite Mavs game of all time was back in 93 or 94...can't remember when, but I think they won about 15 games that year. Popeye Jones laid in the game winning shot against the heavily favored Bulls and Reunion Arena went wild. Reunion Arena was one of the loudest basketball arenas ever...

Unfortunately, that's the only thing that the three J's ever had going for them. A win over the Bulls. Jackson scored 50 once, and Kidd did the Kidd thing pretty regularly, but those bums all sucked together. You can really see the genius of Nellie in the house cleaning that followed his entry to the franchise. The three J's were shipped out, and Nellie acquired Nash, Finley, Nowitzki, Howard, Daniels, Harris, and brought AJ in to tutor before leaving the coaching position. Nellie really set the table for AJ and brought him in to take the team up a notch.

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 01:30 PM
What a bunch of goobers! You guys are now trying hard to slander my fandom? Hah!

Just FYI, I became a Mavericks fan when I moved to Texas in '89. I was also a Micheal Jordan fan because I lived in a non-NBA city and saw all of the nationally telecast Bulls games. Jordan was a phenomenal player. How could you not hang on every shot? Call that what you will, but it doesnt bother me any.

Bandwagon Fan Characteristics
A bandwagon sports fan will typically root for a team in a particular sport that is the most visible and is successful. Most often bandwagon fans prefer teams that have a long tradition of winning championships (New York Yankees, Dallas Cowboys, Los Angeles Lakers, Chicago Bulls, Duke basketball, Notre Dame football) as well as having well known popular athletes playing for those teams such as Derek Jeter, Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


If the Mavs lose before they reach the finals are you going to jump on the Shaq and Wade bandwagon?

Montaq
05-16-2006, 01:33 PM
What a bunch of goobers! You guys are now trying hard to slander my fandom? Hah!

Just FYI, I became a Mavericks fan when I moved to Texas in '89. I was also a Micheal Jordan fan because I lived in a non-NBA city and saw all of the nationally telecast Bulls games. Jordan was a phenomenal player. How could you not hang on every shot? Call that what you will, but it doesnt bother me any.

I guess I'm a bandwagon fan with you Llama. I didn't even watch the NBA until '98 when I moved to Dallas. Oh well, my season tickets don't cost extra for jumping on board late. ;D

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2006, 01:35 PM
Bandwagon Fan Characteristics
A bandwagon sports fan will typically root for a team in a particular sport that is the most visible and is successful. Most often bandwagon fans prefer teams that have a long tradition of winning championships (New York Yankees, Dallas Cowboys, Los Angeles Lakers, Chicago Bulls, Duke basketball, Notre Dame football) as well as having well known popular athletes playing for those teams such as Derek Jeter, Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan.
If the Mavs lose before they reach the finals are you going to jump on the Shaq and Wade bandwagon?

Still upset that every bit of basketball delusion that you vomited all over this board is being wiped away and sanitized by reality? Aww...poor Gonzo. His over-the-top attention grabs are proving again to be nothing more than the ramblings of a racist whackjob. :thumbs:

Go Mavs!

epicSocialism4tw
05-16-2006, 01:37 PM
I guess I'm a bandwagon fan with you Llama. I didn't even watch the NBA until '98 when I moved to Dallas. Oh well, my season tickets don't cost extra for jumping on board late. ;D

They're just upset because they know that I've been right ;D

They have had to fish up some kind of slander...let them have their crusade. We'll watch our Mavs prove the doubters wrong again.

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 01:41 PM
I guess I'm a bandwagon fan with you Llama.

Quoted for truth! :rofl:

Northman
05-16-2006, 01:42 PM
Is Dirk his fullname?

I hate Duncan too. If I was a ref, I'd T him up every time he looked at me with that stupid "oh shucks" look.


Duncan- 3 Rings
Dirk- Goose Egg


:)

ro_50
05-16-2006, 01:45 PM
Duncan- 3 Rings
Dirk- Goose Egg


:)


Dirk is great player and may become a HOF player, but he has ways to go to reach TD's status.

TD is a legend, perhaps the best player of this generation alongside Shaq.

Northman
05-16-2006, 01:46 PM
Dirk is great player and may become a HOF player, but he has ways to go to reach TD's status.

TD is a legend, perhaps the best player of this generation alongside Shaq.


Yep, although i think Duncan is far superior to Snak in terms of all around ability. But yea, Timmy has done a lot more than Dirk and has done it with Class. All these haters just need to put their tail between their legs and recognize. ;D

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 01:55 PM
They were just talking on the radio today about what a marvelous job AJ has done...the Mavericks were a jump-shooting team with no defense two seasons ago.

ro_50
05-16-2006, 02:01 PM
They were just talking on the radio today about what a marvelous job AJ has done...the Mavericks were a jump-shooting team with no defense two seasons ago.

AJ has them playing Spurs type defense, well until this round because both teams' defenses have been awful.

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 02:13 PM
They were just talking on the radio today about what a marvelous job AJ has done...the Mavericks were a jump-shooting team with no defense two seasons ago.

Outside of Devin Harris they still are a jump shooting team. And the defense? blah.

GonzoLays
05-16-2006, 02:28 PM
Unfortunately, that's the only thing that the three J's ever had going for them. A win over the Bulls. Jackson scored 50 once, and Kidd did the Kidd thing pretty regularly, but those bums all sucked together. You can really see the genius of Nellie in the house cleaning that followed his entry to the franchise. The three J's were shipped out, and Nellie acquired Nash, Finley, Nowitzki, Howard, Daniels, Harris, and brought AJ in to tutor before leaving the coaching position. Nellie really set the table for AJ and brought him in to take the team up a notch.

Hey Llama, Don Nelson was not the guy that traded Jason Kidd or acquired Michael Finley. Any "diehard" Mavs would know when the savior of the franchise arrived and what moves he made. Micheal Finley was already on the roster and they had traded Kidd long before Nellie ever stepped foot in that town. How come you did know that? Oh, that's right, you were riding the Bulls bandwagon when Nellie arrived. My bad. Carry on.

The Big E
05-16-2006, 03:57 PM
Bavetta's a joke. There's a reason he got the nickname "The Cooler". I was surprised he was reffing last night's game to be brutally honest. Usually the NBA saves him for when they're trying to prevent a sweep because they know that he's influenced by the crowd.

The only good thing about the officiating in the playoffs is that we haven't seen Violet Palmer.
I don't care for the Mavs or the Spurs, although I'd prefer to see Dallas move on. Nonetheless, I think Dallas has been getting a surprising number of calls. Dirt is getting Jordan-esque calls in his favor.

The Spurs certainly can't be counted out, but they also aren't playing at the level of past years. It doesn't really matter because the REAL Western Conference finals is being played between LAC and Phoenix. ;D Are ya' with me, Ludo?

Bob's your Information Minister
05-16-2006, 05:58 PM
Outside of Devin Harris they still are a jump shooting team. And the defense? blah.

What a joke. Their defense has been good enough to slap the Spurs 3 times in 4 games. Every one of them drives to the basket consistently, even Dirk.

Clockwork Orange
05-16-2006, 06:05 PM
You're a frontrunning fag, Bob.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-16-2006, 06:17 PM
Ring talk is hilarious.

I'll even give Gonzo credit in that he doesn't tout the rings the Celtics have.

Let me ask anyone that brings up the Spurs championships the same thing I've been asking them this past week - where are those rings going to get you this year? Besides a fishing trip?

ludo21
05-16-2006, 08:15 PM
I don't care for the Mavs or the Spurs, although I'd prefer to see Dallas move on. Nonetheless, I think Dallas has been getting a surprising number of calls. Dirt is getting Jordan-esque calls in his favor.

The Spurs certainly can't be counted out, but they also aren't playing at the level of past years. It doesn't really matter because the REAL Western Conference finals is being played between LAC and Phoenix. ;D Are ya' with me, Ludo?


Darn straight!

I would NOT be surprised to see the Clips or Suns make the Finals and beat MAvs or Spurs. The playoffs are just that way this season! :thumbs:

20 min. til game time, big game tonight!

ro_50
05-16-2006, 08:21 PM
What a joke. Their defense has been good enough to slap the Spurs 3 times in 4 games. Every one of them drives to the basket consistently, even Dirk.


Bob, are you insane. Both teams have played awful defense and the reason the Mavs are ahead is not cuz of their defense but because of their offensive execution.

jossjeff
05-16-2006, 09:02 PM
Darn straight!

I would NOT be surprised to see the Clips or Suns make the Finals and beat MAvs or Spurs. The playoffs are just that way this season!

20 min. til game time, big game tonight!


****ing RACK!

Bring on the new blood!

I'm so pumped for this game tonight!

Good start for the Clips but way early still.

ludo21
05-16-2006, 10:17 PM
60-52 beginning of 3rd.

Suns playing well, fun game!

63-54 now.

ludo21
05-16-2006, 10:44 PM
4th qtr. coming up.

Going to be another close game. Cant believe the Suns blew a 19 point lead......wait, yes i can.

JCMElway
05-16-2006, 10:55 PM
Bavetta's a joke. There's a reason he got the nickname "The Cooler". I was surprised he was reffing last night's game to be brutally honest. Usually the NBA saves him for when they're trying to prevent a sweep because they know that he's influenced by the crowd.

Sweet! Let's have Dicky B officiate in Motown on Wednesday!

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-16-2006, 10:59 PM
I LOVE when Dantoni gets pissed at his team choking away any lead. Dude - it's not like you're telling them to play defense. They're lost out there.

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:04 PM
I LOVE when Dantoni gets pissed at his team choking away any lead. Dude - it's not like you're telling them to play defense. They're lost out there.


Defense is all about effort, nothing else. Id be pissed too.

But they save it all for the O, and its a proven winning brand for them, so why not. Ha!

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:10 PM
bwhahahahha......what a flop!

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:16 PM
101-98 Suns

40 seconds left, can they hold on!!??

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:19 PM
No flagrant! wth!

Clockwork Orange
05-16-2006, 11:24 PM
What a braincramp by Cassell.

Clockwork Orange
05-16-2006, 11:25 PM
Tim Thomas returns the favor by not calling a timeout.

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:26 PM
LOL

man, 2 vets making dumb mistakes, just silly. 3 if you inlcude the retarted Nash 3 point try.

OT, benefits the Clipps. Fun game tho, i love this series!

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:40 PM
wow!

MVP with the piss poor decison making. Costly mistakes.....

need a 3 here. I doubt it. Time to win in LA again. ;D

SoCalBronco
05-16-2006, 11:42 PM
Bell ties it up.

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:43 PM
HOLY SH!T!!!!!!!!!

Time left still, so im scared, BUt WOWOWWOWO!

Clockwork Orange
05-16-2006, 11:43 PM
Raja Bell is playing out of his mind. What a shot.

ludo21
05-16-2006, 11:46 PM
Brand was held a little. But ill deal with it ;D

Double OT!!!!

What a game, what a series!

EASILY the BEST playoffs of recent years!

The Big E
05-16-2006, 11:49 PM
I can't believe they let Bell catch the ball behind the arc, and there wasn't even a screen to set him free. What a rollercoaster game!

Finger Roll
05-17-2006, 12:10 AM
I find Basketball a bit to nerveracking for me. Much more so then Football or Baseball.

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 12:14 AM
You gotta hand it to the Suns, they just keep playing no matter what.

ludo21
05-17-2006, 12:14 AM
I find Basketball a bit to nerveracking for me. Much more so then Football or Baseball.


Ha!

Not more than football, but definitely nervewracking!!

CRAZY game!! Suns showed a TON of character after blowing that lead!

Lets wrap it up in LA boys!!!! :sunshine:

Finger Roll
05-17-2006, 12:16 AM
I think it's more nerveracking because of the much faster pace and high scoring

Finger Roll
05-17-2006, 12:18 AM
yeah the suns have always been my favorite team since I lived out west. They'll give you grey hair the way they blow big leads ALL THE TIME:D

ludo21
05-17-2006, 12:18 AM
I think it's more nerveracking because of the much faster pace and high scoring


true, its always going!

Gotta love it!!

jossjeff, dont cry, another game in 2 days, Clipps will get their chance!

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2006, 12:47 AM
Good game for Suns fans. Raja Bell was the best player on the floor for the second consecutive game. Raja has always been a player that I thought had potential. There is a reason that Sarver dished out the cash to bring him to Phoenix last summer. Good for Raja. He's a good kid.

watermock
05-17-2006, 01:01 AM
It's been the best round 2 in recent memory. Cleveland was going bonkers. Pheonix was pretty quite mostly.

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2006, 01:24 AM
At least Llama does.

I dont think it's fair to knock Bob because he gets excited about Dallas taking their play to the next level and decides to peek in and post on a basketball thread in a general forum on a rival's website in the offseason.

You are better than that, ro. We've had great cordial b-ball discussions in the past. There's no reason why you cant show your level of class to the hooligans and firestarters here on omane.

I would also like to add this...anyone who doubts where my fandom has been focused for the time that I have been on omane needs to refer to the search feature and take the time to do proper research. I dont think that there is another poster who has taken more heat for his "homeristic" takes on the Mavs for the past few seasons.

Another thing...check my "midseason awards" thread. It's right on the money, baby! ;D

Northman
05-17-2006, 03:44 AM
Ring talk is hilarious.

I'll even give Gonzo credit in that he doesn't tout the rings the Celtics have.

Let me ask anyone that brings up the Spurs championships the same thing I've been asking them this past week - where are those rings going to get you this year? Besides a fishing trip?


When comparing players it does come into play. You can whine all you want too about it but the fact is Dirk doesnt have squat yet. Does it matter this year? of course not but to talk a big game about a player who hasnt done anything while trashing another player ( a joke within itself ) is ludicrous. Instead of being classless and trashing a player why not concentrate your efforts on how well the Mavs are outplaying the Spurs. But since you and rest of the toolsheds just seem to whine about one player it makes you look even more ridiculous. My general point was is that Duncan has won something worthwhile whereas Dirk has not, thats the bottom line.

ro_50
05-17-2006, 06:49 AM
I dont think it's fair to knock Bob because he gets excited about Dallas taking their play to the next level and decides to peek in and post on a basketball thread in a general forum on a rival's website in the offseason.

You are better than that, ro. We've had great cordial b-ball discussions in the past. There's no reason why you cant show your level of class to the hooligans and firestarters here on omane.

I would also like to add this...anyone who doubts where my fandom has been focused for the time that I have been on omane needs to refer to the search feature and take the time to do proper research. I dont think that there is another poster who has taken more heat for his "homeristic" takes on the Mavs for the past few seasons.

Another thing...check my "midseason awards" thread. It's right on the money, baby! ;D

I dont mind our basketball discussions because you are a fan that lives with the team throughout the season and you are obviously passionate about your team, which is a DAMN GOOD TEAM that is one win away from moving on to the Western Conference Finals and has been the best team OVERALL in this year's playoffs in terms of playing and winning its games.

Thats true you take a lot of flak on the board for your "homeristic" takes as you put it and I have apologized for lashing out at you in recent days about the series. Thats not my nature to talk trash or smack and I let the emotions of a tension-filled series get to me.

I have to knock Bob, while he is a die-hard Chiefs fan that follows the team everyday, it bugs me that he didnt even follow the Mavs team throughout the year and then starts talking smack after they take the lead in this series.

In fact, I have criticized some Spurs fans throughout the years hopping on board just for the playoffs when the good times were rolling along and they have been extremely critical of them recently and they dont even watch games during the regular season or at least follow them.

ro_50
05-17-2006, 06:54 AM
Ring talk is hilarious.

I'll even give Gonzo credit in that he doesn't tout the rings the Celtics have.

Let me ask anyone that brings up the Spurs championships the same thing I've been asking them this past week - where are those rings going to get you this year? Besides a fishing trip?


TD's level of play has been equal to Dirk's in this playoff series, but it just happens that Dirk has a better more well-rounded offensive supporting cast than TD does right now.

Its just some here on this board have criticized TD's play and called out that he's "mentally-weak", which is STUPID.

Dirk hasn't led his team to the Finals and yet, some have annointed his performances as "Legendary".

Legendary titles come to players who have achieved greatness in the playoffs.

Dirk is on his way though to taking his game to the next level, beyond superstar.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 06:55 AM
I
I have to knock Bob, while he is a die-hard Chiefs fan that follows the team everyday, it bugs me that he didnt even follow the Mavs team throughout the year and then starts talking smack after they take the lead in this series.


I followed them, I just didn't watch the games.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 06:55 AM
Tonight, your futures end, Spurs fans! And you too, Gonzo! :rofl:

ro_50
05-17-2006, 07:00 AM
I followed them, I just didn't watch the games.


Ok, fair enough.

Nuggets4
05-17-2006, 09:00 AM
I seriously hope the Mavs are as overconfident as their fans tonight.

Rock Chalk
05-17-2006, 09:23 AM
Yeah, the mentally weak Tim Duncan, who put up 35 and 12 and shot 65% from the floor........::)

Nice to see Dirk has adopted the Playoff Limp. He's not in the class of all time sympathy milkers like Isiah Thomas or Kevin McHale, but he's getting there. Not sure how much more the refs can do for him in this series, though. He practically attempted more free throws than the entire Spurs team. Maybe Cuban can cry even more.
Dirks a ****ing pussy who cant shoot.

If he couldnt shoot free throws he wouldnt even be in the league.

God I ****ing HATE Dallas.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 09:24 AM
Dirks a ****ing p***Y who cant shoot.
.
LOL

48 percent from the floor...41 percent from the 3-point line.

KipCorrington25
05-17-2006, 09:33 AM
The Spurs are doomed by the curse of Van Excrement. Any team he is on will underachieve and quit.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-17-2006, 09:38 AM
Dirks a ****ing p***Y who cant shoot.

If he couldnt shoot free throws he wouldnt even be in the league.

God I ****ing HATE Dallas.

That IS hilarious.

If he couldn't shoot free throws....ahahahahahahahahahaaaa!

You should have said that Dirk doesn't post up, I might have given you that one. But to say he doesn't shoot it just ignorant.

ro_50
05-17-2006, 10:02 AM
The Spurs are doomed by the curse of Van Excrement. Any team he is on will underachieve and quit.



I hope you are not implying the Spurs are underachieving and that they have quit.

What type of garbage is that.

If you are referring to NVE's play, he has been awful.

But if you are referring to the Spurs, get a clue.

How are they underachieving in this series or quitting.

They are playing against a great team and they lost two of the three games on the final possession.

Montaq
05-17-2006, 10:07 AM
Dirks a ****ing p***Y who cant shoot.

If he couldnt shoot free throws he wouldnt even be in the league.

God I ****ing HATE Dallas.

I think there are a lot of legitimate criticisms you can make about Dirk's game, his shooting is not one of them.

KipCorrington25
05-17-2006, 10:10 AM
Well in my opinion not getting out of the second round for the Spurs would be underachieving. I think they would agree. I'll give you the not quitting part but Van Excrement is a quitter so he isn't helping their cause any. Perhaps they will prove me wrong, we will see.
That's the type of garbage this is.

GonzoLays
05-17-2006, 10:40 AM
That IS hilarious.

If he couldn't shoot free throws....ahahahahahahahahahaaaa!

You should have said that Dirk doesn't post up, I might have given you that one. But to say he doesn't shoot it just ignorant.

ditto

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2006, 11:28 AM
Dirks a ****ing p***Y who cant shoot.
If he couldnt shoot free throws he wouldnt even be in the league.
God I ****ing HATE Dallas.

Still upset over that little game 7 collapse last season? ;D

McGrady is great but he just cant seem to get out of the first round. I think that he's a better player than Bryant when he's healthy.

I thank McGrady and Yao for providing the Mavs with alot of the resolve that they have used to outperform their opponents at a level higher than any other playoff team this season. Thanks Houston. ;D

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2006, 11:34 AM
Ring talk is hilarious.
Let me ask anyone that brings up the Spurs championships the same thing I've been asking them this past week - where are those rings going to get you this year? Besides a fishing trip?

Ring talk is just what results when a team with former glory is getting paved over by a team on it's current path to glory. The inferiority complex that sets in causes the individual to grasp at whatever they can to tell themselves that their team is good too. It's like getting participation ribbons in childrens' athletic events. The current Spur fan has the "Ring" ribbon and the "Refs" ribbon, and they display them audaciously at every opportunity.

GonzoLays
05-17-2006, 11:50 AM
I think there are a lot of legitimate criticisms you can make about Dirk's game, his shooting is not one of them.

1. No low post game.

2. Despite standing 7 feet tall is unable to block shots.

3. Can be guarded and effectively shut down by players 6-8 inches smaller than him.

4. Cannot control his emotions.

5. Limited playoff success despite playing with and coached by hall of famers.

6. Has trouble creating his own shot.

7. Struggles defensively against players who are just as tall, shorter, and taller than him.


Other than that, he is okay.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 12:06 PM
5. Limited playoff success despite playing with and coached by hall of famers.

6. Has trouble creating his own shot.


These two are bull****. What hall of famer has Dirk played with? Steve ****ing Nash? Give me a break.

And Dirk's fadeaway is great. The guy hits so many off-balance shots it's amazing.

ro_50
05-17-2006, 12:13 PM
Well in my opinion not getting out of the second round for the Spurs would be underachieving. I think they would agree. I'll give you the not quitting part but Van Excrement is a quitter so he isn't helping their cause any. Perhaps they will prove me wrong, we will see.
That's the type of garbage this is.


I wouldnt say its underachieving.

I will give you this, NVE is a scrub out there and just brutal.

Of course the Spurs expectations are to get out of the second round but if they dont, it wont be because of underachieving.

Its more of unfulfilled expecations not underachieving. That word implies the team is not trying hard and not playing as a team and not caring about the task at hand.

They are running into a team w/ all of the answers.

So if its based on expectations, yeah, if they lose one more, they havent lived up to them but its not underachieiving if they lose to the Mavs.

ro_50
05-17-2006, 12:14 PM
Ok, they are underachieving on the defensive side, I will give you that.

Nuggets4
05-17-2006, 12:37 PM
I hope you are not implying the Spurs are underachieving and that they have quit.

What type of garbage is that.

If you are referring to NVE's play, he has been awful.

But if you are referring to the Spurs, get a clue.

How are they underachieving in this series or quitting.

They are playing against a great team and they lost two of the three games on the final possession.

NVE is a piece of ****.

epicSocialism4tw
05-17-2006, 02:44 PM
Mavs/Spurs Classic Clash Version 5 happens tonight at 8:30 CT. I wont be able to watch, but I'll have it Tivo'ed for later.

Blood is in the water...time to go for the kill!

Go Mavs!

RhymesayersDU
05-17-2006, 02:58 PM
Raja Bell is playing out of his mind. What a shot.
Looked JUST like Carmelo's 3-pointer from the same spot against the T'Wolves.

Northman
05-17-2006, 03:59 PM
Ring talk is just what results when a team with former glory is getting paved over by a team on it's current path to glory. The inferiority complex that sets in causes the individual to grasp at whatever they can to tell themselves that their team is good too. It's like getting participation ribbons in childrens' athletic events. The current Spur fan has the "Ring" ribbon and the "Refs" ribbon, and they display them audaciously at every opportunity.

Spoken like a true Chiefs fan. LOL

jossjeff
05-17-2006, 05:28 PM
That was one brutal loss for this Clipper fan.

With a foul to give letting Bell get a clean look at a 3 point shot was pretty much unforgivable IMO.

I also don't like the idea of having a rookie guard their most lethal perimeter threat.

Regardless though, Bell stepped up and hit a monster pressure shot, gotta give it to him.

Hopefully the Clips can suck it up and force game 7.

GonzoLays
05-17-2006, 05:47 PM
That was one brutal loss for this Clipper fan.

With a foul to give letting Bell get a clean look at a 3 point shot was pretty much unforgivable IMO.

I also don't like the idea of having a rookie guard their most lethal perimeter threat.

Regardless though, Bell stepped up and hit a monster pressure shot, gotta give it to him.

Hopefully the Clips can suck it up and force game 7.

Did you watch Inside the NBA afterwards? Kenny the jet showed how you were suppose to guard the three point line, not the basket, when the opposing team is down by three points. I wonder why Ewing was guarding the basket and not the three point line?

And whats up with Cassell? I thought he was suppose to be a leader? Everytime something goes bad he starts to sulk and yell at his teammates. I think all this leader talk has gone to his head. I would hate to play ball with a guy like that.

TheManeMan
05-17-2006, 05:49 PM
http://www.ginoscafe.com/coffeecake&mush.jpg LOL

Thats a great pic Bill...is that you sitting next to Mush?

I tried searching for a picture to post and couldnt find anything...

GonzoLays
05-17-2006, 05:52 PM
http://www.hiphopgame.com/images/crazy/cassel.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 06:04 PM
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1416/spurswlo21cw5st.gif (http://imageshack.us)

ludo21
05-17-2006, 06:11 PM
Ummm.. Cassell carried the Clips to an almost victory, i dont know if you know what your talking about.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 06:16 PM
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1416/spurswlo21cw5st.gif

jossjeff
05-17-2006, 06:39 PM
And whats up with Cassell? I thought he was suppose to be a leader? Everytime something goes bad he starts to sulk and yell at his teammates. I think all this leader talk has gone to his head. I would hate to play ball with a guy like that.


Dude....

Cassell will be one of the most highly sought after free agents this offseason despite his age. He is without question the undisputed leader of this team and without him I don't think we even make the playoffs.

He barks at his teamamtes when they **** up and rightfully so. The Clips inexperience showed at times last night..

Cassell was nails down the stretch, I'm not getting your point at all.

Livingston may be the future but the future is not here yet.

We need to resign Cassell.

ludo21
05-17-2006, 06:40 PM
Cavs ahead so far.

I AM REALLY impressed, they are playing hard, and tough.

Pistons are just getting worked.

yavoon
05-17-2006, 06:47 PM
I still think mcdyess should start instead of rasheed. that'd probably drive rasheed mad though, its too bad.

Northman
05-17-2006, 07:48 PM
Omg, what the hell was that? Rip gets the ball at the end and trys to get a call with the worse acting job ive ever seen. :rofl:

Cavs go up 3-2 with a 86-84 win at the Palace.

GonzoLays
05-17-2006, 07:49 PM
The freaking Cavs won! OMG!

"Even the sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while" Rasheed Wallace

You damn right about that 'Sheed.

Are we all witnesses?

kmartin575
05-17-2006, 07:51 PM
I'm happy. I like the Pistons but it's good to see an underdog like Cleveland do what they are doing.

yavoon
05-17-2006, 07:52 PM
haha yah. pistons should start mcdyess.

GonzoLays
05-17-2006, 07:54 PM
haha yah. pistons should start mcdyess.

I don't see how that would effect the outcome of this series.

BizzyBone7
05-17-2006, 07:59 PM
it still amazes me how someone can't make a free throw. Wallace had the chance to put his team up at least 1, and couldnt do it. The amount of money they get paid and they cant make a 90 foot (or however long it is) with no one in front of them.

also y was prince trying to take his man off the dribble, he really isnt that kind of player. frustrating loss...

RhymesayersDU
05-17-2006, 08:04 PM
vvvvvvv

rbackfactory80
05-17-2006, 08:05 PM
Seriously, what an ass. You dont want a foul call, gamers want the ball and a real shot, not some fake foul B.S. They should have let the man with the mouth take the shot with the game on the line. At least he would have put it up.

Tha rock
05-17-2006, 08:06 PM
im pretty sure the pistons will be back pissed and there going to win it all

BroncosMT
05-17-2006, 08:14 PM
I'm surpirsed they didn't try to hit Rasheed at the top for 3 because he was open. Also why would you want tashaun prince to take your shot near the end? I think it's time for the pistons to go away

JCMElway
05-17-2006, 09:01 PM
So......

Pissed.....

off.........

The Pistons can still pull it off, but DAMN.

Where the hell is my team that won 64 games this year?

That's all I've got to say until after game 6. No more talk, just put up or go home.

:moody: ~Popps~ :moody:

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 09:03 PM
Duncan is amazing.

The Mavericks as a team are better. Tied up at the half.

ludo21
05-17-2006, 10:03 PM
So......

Pissed.....

off.........

The Pistons can still pull it off, but DAMN.

Where the hell is my team that won 64 games this year?

That's all I've got to say until after game 6. No more talk, just put up or go home.

:moody: ~Popps~ :moody:


:rofl:

Im rooting for the Cavs, and i still dont thinkl they can pull this out, but id be darn scared right now as a Pistons fan. Cavs are not only winning, but they are beating Detroit at their own game!

AMAZING!! We are all Witnessess!! Truly amazing to watch LB and co. grow up each game.

ro_50
05-17-2006, 10:05 PM
This is LJ's first playoff.

You cant put it into words.

I mean, they are doing this against the team w/ the best regular season record and two-time defending Eastern Conf. Champions.

We are all witnesses for the next 10-15 years. Get use too it.

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 10:06 PM
Lebron's a hell of a player and I won't take anything away from him, but he's gonna struggle a bit if they ever stop allowing him to stiff arm defenders on the way to the basket.

Great job by the Cavs.

ludo21
05-17-2006, 10:07 PM
Mavs are giving the Spurs heck!!

Pulling 3 in a row wont be easy......but they can do it.

edit: Great point CO, but guess what, every great player does it, and gets away with it, so im not going to take it away from him.

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 10:10 PM
edit: Great point CO, but guess what, every great player does it, and gets away with it, so im not going to take it away from him.

Oh, I know. It's no different than all of the travelling, palming, flopping and other crap that NBA officials allow to go on unpunished. Like I said, I'm not taking anything away from him, he's a hell of a player.

watermock
05-17-2006, 10:25 PM
The palming is absurd at times.

ludo21
05-17-2006, 10:27 PM
What an incredible finish!

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 10:28 PM
What a block by Bowen. I've given him **** for his dirty tactics, but that was a first rate defensive play.

ludo21
05-17-2006, 10:29 PM
Spurs season on the line here!

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 10:30 PM
There will be a game 6.

ro_50
05-17-2006, 10:31 PM
SPURS WIN, now go to Dallas and take one.

What a series. It has been even throughout, minus the refs interjection.

Its not over Mavs fans.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 10:32 PM
Wow. Worst screw job by the officials ever. Dirk was clearly fouled by Bowen. And Terry had that ball.

Two consecutive jump balls = TOTAL BULLSH1T

ro_50
05-17-2006, 10:33 PM
Wow. Worst screw job by the officials ever. Dirk was clearly fouled by Bowen. And Terry had that ball.

Two consecutive jump balls = TOTAL BULLSH1T


WTF are u talking about.

Shut up Bob. Those were clean plays.

I swear, the nerve of Mavs fans.

ludo21
05-17-2006, 10:33 PM
Wow. Worst screw job by the officials ever. Dirk was clearly fouled by Bowen. And Terry had that ball.

Two consecutive jump balls = TOTAL BULLSH1T


Ha!

Calls go how their supposed to and a "Mavs fan" is getting upset. Watch the phantom calls in game 5. Those were total jokes.

Bowen got all ball, and Ginobli jumped on Terry before he called TO. Stop crying.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 10:33 PM
WTF are u talking about.

Shut up Bob. Those were clean plays.

I swear, the nerve of Mavs fans.

Complete garbage. Bowen fouled Dirk.

ro_50
05-17-2006, 10:36 PM
Complete garbage. Bowen fouled Dirk.


You got to be kidding me. This is ridiculous. Please shut your trap.

That was so clean.

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 10:36 PM
Complete garbage. Bowen fouled Dirk.

Stick to football, you actually manage to sink beneath the level of complete dumbass you achieve there when you try to talk basketball.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 10:45 PM
Just saw it again.

Maybe it wasn't a foul...but there's NO EFFING WAY it should have been a jump ball.

SoCalBronco
05-17-2006, 10:47 PM
So Bob, now that San Antonio won this game, are you going to jump on their bandwagon?

ludo21
05-17-2006, 10:48 PM
Just saw it again.

Maybe it wasn't a foul...but there's NO EFFING WAY it should have been a jump ball.


So Ups and Downs and Spurs ball then...sounds about right.

SoCalBronco
05-17-2006, 10:49 PM
Is Barkley drunk?

He totally mispronounced "barnburner", wasnt even close and he used the word "bitch" and "bitching" several times.

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 10:49 PM
Just saw it again.

Maybe it wasn't a foul...but there's NO EFFING WAY it should have been a jump ball.

Again, you show that your knowledge of basketball is almost as miniscule as your knowledge of the opposite sex (outside of the ones you've downloaded).

The only call to make in that situation is a jump ball. Bowen (who I don't like and I really hate your sorry ass for making me defend him) put a lid on Dirk's shot, Dirk came all the way down to the ground with he and Bowen's hands still on the ball, which means dual possession and thus a jump ball. It was the right call.

Ugh, I feel dirty. **** Bruce Bowen. There, that's better.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 10:52 PM
So Bob, now that San Antonio won this game, are you going to jump on their bandwagon?

**** the Spurs. Dallas is now fueled by righteous anger and will destroy them in Dallas in game six. DIE, SPURS, DIE!

RhymesayersDU
05-17-2006, 10:52 PM
Just saw it again.

Maybe it wasn't a foul...but there's NO EFFING WAY it should have been a jump ball.
Gotta love a guy commenting on a sport that he doesn't even know the rules of. This should make for some interesting conversation.

SoCalBronco
05-17-2006, 10:53 PM
Again, you show that your knowledge of basketball is almost as miniscule as your knowledge of the opposite sex (outside of the ones you've downloaded).
.

There was a thread on ChiefsPlanet a few months ago...regarding a young poster who is the son of another well known poster....basically he said he wanted to marry this girl and he had a) no job b) no education beyond high school c) no prior relationships before d) no plan on how they were going to live, task share, pay bills and e) had only been in the relationship for a short period of time.

I didnt know what I found more pathetic....that kid, or Bob on the same thread giving dating advice.


The latter, I know. How it was even close in my mind at the time, I dont know.

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 10:54 PM
There was a thread on ChiefsPlanet a few months ago...regarding a young poster who is the son of another well known poster....basically he said he wanted to marry this girl and he had a) no job b) no education beyond high school c) no prior relationships before d) no plan on how they were going to live, task share, pay bills and d) had only been in the relationship for a short period of time.

I didnt know what I found more pathetic....that kid, or Bob on the same thread giving dating advice.


The latter I know.

Geez, talk about the blind leading the blind.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 10:55 PM
Gotta love a guy commenting on a sport that he doesn't even know the rules of. This should make for some interesting conversation.

It was a foul or nothing. The officials clearly reacted and whistled intending to call a foul...but then realized they were in the heartland of Spurs home cookin' and quickly justified the whistle to Tim Duncan.

RhymesayersDU
05-17-2006, 10:57 PM
It was a foul or nothing. The officials clearly reacted and whistled intending to call a foul...but then realized they were in the heartland of Spurs home cookin' and quickly justified the whistle to Tim Duncan.
Actually, it was either a foul or a jump ball. That was a pretty text book tie up. I mean it's not even up for debate. If you were to say that Bowen fouled him, that's one thing. But that was a tie up, and therefore a jump ball.

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 10:58 PM
http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/78b68bb7-0e6b-4960-825e-972602dedea5.jpg

This is after they had both come back down to the floor. All ball, good call.

Edit: Stop undercutting jump shooters Bowen. Dirty prick.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-17-2006, 11:00 PM
All ball my ass. He's got his arm draped over Dirk's left arm. FOUL.

Nuggets4
05-17-2006, 11:01 PM
All ball my ass. He's got his arm draped over Dirk's left arm. FOUL.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Clockwork Orange
05-17-2006, 11:02 PM
All ball my ass. He's got his arm draped over Dirk's left arm. FOUL.

The hand is a part of the ball. Jesus, you really don't know **** about basketball, do you?

He blocked the shot from the side and still had a lid on it when they both came back to the ground. That's great defense.

Run along, your D & D buddies are probably wondering what's keeping you.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-17-2006, 11:17 PM
That wasn't where the contact was. Bowen touched his elbow before Dirk went up.

But whatever. I'm not going to dwell on it.

Mavs take it in Dallas Friday night. As if anyone really expected this series to only go 5...

redrage
05-18-2006, 05:59 AM
All ball my ass. He's got his arm draped over Dirk's left arm. FOUL.
What goes around comes around. Pushing off a stationary Bowen in game 4 and still getting the foul and hitting the game winning free throws doesn't do much for your Karma. Does Dirk watch 'My Name is Earl' or is he to busy watching reruns of baywatch with David Hasslehoff?

The Big E
05-18-2006, 11:53 AM
Did you watch Inside the NBA afterwards? Kenny the jet showed how you were suppose to guard the three point line, not the basket, when the opposing team is down by three points. I wonder why Ewing was guarding the basket and not the three point line?


I know this is old news now, but that's what I brought up earlier. Everyone is talking about whether or not they should have fouled Bell, and my question was how in the hell do you even let him catch the ball behind the arc? Let him catch in the paint if necessary, because 2 points does them no good. Poor defensive execution.

I mocked the Cavs earlier for being in over their head, but I am eating those words now. I still think Detroit finally gets over themselves and pulls out the series.

The Spurs-Mavs series is a freakin' dogfight. There's just no breathing room. I think ultimately the Mavs will prevail, but now that I said that, they are probably doomed. Sorry, RVJ and Llama.

Montaq
05-18-2006, 01:18 PM
I don't have a problem with the way the game was called last night. I think there have been bad calls throughout the series that have helped or hurt both teams. However, that was definitely a tie up. I don't think you can call that a foul. It was an excellent play by Bowen.

And now, I can watch the Mavs win the series live and in person on Friday. ;D

GonzoLays
05-18-2006, 01:28 PM
PWNED

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/8ae63e09-da13-4812-ad52-9fa02d5832b2.jpg

ro_50
05-18-2006, 02:00 PM
Its amazing Bob can sit here and whine about a clean block when Dirk gets more calls in the 4th quarter of games 3 and 4 that you thought he was MJ or something.

Bob, just go back and look at the tapes of those games and tell me w/ a straight face Dirk has not been getting the benefit of some calls.

Boobs McGee
05-18-2006, 02:04 PM
Ro, you gotta cut the guy some slack.

I mean, all he's thinkin about is:

All ball my ass..
balls and his ass. Ha!

Bob's your Information Minister
05-18-2006, 04:33 PM
Jason Terry has been suspended for game six.

RhymesayersDU
05-18-2006, 04:36 PM
Jason Terry has been suspended for game six.
Wow... That could be big, he's been playing well.

Mavs' Terry suspended one game without pay
Associated Press

DALLAS -- Mavericks guard Jason Terry will miss Game 6 against the San Antonio Spurs on Friday night after being suspended one game by the league Thursday for punching San Antonio's Michael Finley in the closing seconds of Game 5.

The punch likely occurred either when or after Terry was on the ground trying to control a loose ball. San Antonio's Manu Ginobili and Finley tied him up, forcing a jump ball with 3.4 seconds left. Terry missed a shot after that, allowing the Spurs to hold on for an 98-97 victory that kept the Mavericks from advancing to the conference finals.

Dallas still leads the series 3-2. If San Antonio wins, Game 7 would be Monday night on the Spurs' home court.

After practice Thursday, Terry was finishing shooting before speaking to reporters when he was called to the locker room by coach Avery Johnson. He didn't return. There was no immediate comment from club officials.

Clockwork Orange
05-18-2006, 04:41 PM
Wow... That could be big, he's been playing well.

Mavs' Terry suspended one game without pay
Associated Press

DALLAS -- Mavericks guard Jason Terry will miss Game 6 against the San Antonio Spurs on Friday night after being suspended one game by the league Thursday for punching San Antonio's Michael Finley in the closing seconds of Game 5.

The punch likely occurred either when or after Terry was on the ground trying to control a loose ball. San Antonio's Manu Ginobili and Finley tied him up, forcing a jump ball with 3.4 seconds left. Terry missed a shot after that, allowing the Spurs to hold on for an 98-97 victory that kept the Mavericks from advancing to the conference finals.

Dallas still leads the series 3-2. If San Antonio wins, Game 7 would be Monday night on the Spurs' home court.

After practice Thursday, Terry was finishing shooting before speaking to reporters when he was called to the locker room by coach Avery Johnson. He didn't return. There was no immediate comment from club officials.

I saw Finley going after Terry and a couple of his teammates restraining him late in that game, but I didn't see why. I guess we know now.

RhymesayersDU
05-18-2006, 04:44 PM
I saw Finley going after Terry and a couple of his teammates restraining him late in that game, but I didn't see why. I guess we know now.
Yeah, I didn't see a punch or anything. This is real odd. No T's given out, they didn't say anything on the broadcast.

This is a phantom suspension.

But I will use it to fuel my NBA conspiracy theory. They suspend Jason Terry for a punch nobody saw. Even the AP article says "The punch likely occurred either when..." meaning even they don't know when it happened.

Yet in round 1, Kwame throws an elbow on purpose and puts his crotch in a Suns' player's face, with no suspension. Stern loves his big market Lakers! Fight the Man! Viva la resistance!

Clockwork Orange
05-18-2006, 04:59 PM
Yeah, I didn't see a punch or anything. This is real odd. No T's given out, they didn't say anything on the broadcast.

This is a phantom suspension.

But I will use it to fuel my NBA conspiracy theory. They suspend Jason Terry for a punch nobody saw. Even the AP article says "The punch likely occurred either when..." meaning even they don't know when it happened.

Yet in round 1, Kwame throws an elbow on purpose and puts his crotch in a Suns' player's face, with no suspension. Stern loves his big market Lakers! Fight the Man! Viva la resistance!

I won't go so far as to say it didn't happen, Finley sure reacted as if something happened. I'll wait until I get a chance to see replays of it later on, I'm sure they'll show something on Sportscenter.

I imagine that whatever happened occured when players were on the floor going for the ball and it obviously went undetected by the officials (hell, Reggie Evans squeezing Chris Kaman's bag went completely unnoticed by the officials too). Finley's teammates calmed him down because the last thing they could afford was having him pick up a technical in the final seconds of a 1 point game. After the game, he probably told the Spurs coaching staff about it and they likely sent a tape to the league.

Again, I haven't seen it so I have no idea how bad it really was or wasn't.

GonzoLays
05-18-2006, 05:42 PM
Oh Snap! Jason Terry suspended?

Can you say a game 7 in San Antonio? Wow! What a turn of events.

Wow!

GonzoLays
05-18-2006, 05:43 PM
Jason Terry has been suspended for game six.

Hey Boob...

KISS MY ASS!

Who is going to win the series? Did you say Spurs? I think so.

ludo21
05-18-2006, 05:44 PM
CLOSE DEM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After I get back from CPR class, ill be watching the Suns whoop on the Clips!!

Lets go Suns!!

GonzoLays
05-18-2006, 05:47 PM
Even with the officials clearly on the Mavs side, I still see the Spurs winning this series. All they have to do is win game 6 in Dallas. Which, as you guys have seen, they are very capable of. It is a forgone conclusion that Spurs are going to pound the Mavs in Game 5 in San Antonio. The Mavs can't beat the Spurs in a game 7 in San Antonio.





I can't wait to quote this again this week. The Spurs gave everything they had last night and it wasn't good enough. They're exhaused from a strategy standpoint. The Mavericks are CLEARLY the better team.

Now, all that is left for the Mavericks to do is....

FINISH HIM!

Jigga who? Jigga what?

GonzoLays
05-18-2006, 05:50 PM
Wow! Jet Terry suspended for game 6. Unbelievable.

I hope angryllama didn't f himself.

GonzoLays
05-18-2006, 06:05 PM
Hey Cuban, you want some cheese with that whine.

Mark Cuban, the Mavericks' owner, made the following comments in response to Terry's suspension in an e-mail sent to ESPN on Thursday.
"It's not right, and I told the league so.

"It's certainly not consistent with what the league has done in the past.

"Jason responds to a guy hipchecking him in the head while he is on his back and can't protect himself and he gets suspended. You can't throw a punch while you are on your back and someone is laying on you.

"If Jason had tried to get him off with an open hand, or an elbow, we wouldnt be talking about this at all. Look at [Manu] Ginobli in the replays, he is staring at everything that happens and doesn't respond at all, but all the while you can see the grimace on Jason's face.

"The league also said they didn't know if the [Michael] Finley piledriver with his hip to Jason's head while Ginobli was lying on him was intentional or not. So they couldn't do anything about it.

"Unbelievable. When it's all (said) and done, this series could end up being talked about for all the wrong reasons."

The Big E
05-18-2006, 06:20 PM
Wow. I had no idea anything even happened. The league has generally been cracking down much harder this year as far as suspensions go. My initial reaction without seeing it is that they fine but not suspend Terry, but hearing that little biatch Cuban whine about it makes me happy it happened.

BTW, if I was a Mavs fan I'd love having that guy as an owner, but I'm not, so **** him.

GonzoLays
05-18-2006, 06:31 PM
Wow. I had no idea anything even happened. The league has generally been cracking down much harder this year as far as suspensions go. My initial reaction without seeing it is that they fine but not suspend Terry, but hearing that little biatch Cuban whine about it makes me happy it happened.

BTW, if I was a Mavs fan I'd love having that guy as an owner, but I'm not, so **** him.

You know what this is, right? This is David Stern showing Mark Cuban who the boss is. You don't think Stern had an itch to scratch with Cuban? It seems like every other day Cuban is taking some pot shot at the league and Stern. Stern said, "Okay, keep messing with me." Stern would fine him money but that meant nothing to Cuban because he's got cash. Stern hit'em were it hurt -- suspending his player on a questionable call and Cuban can't do **** about it.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2006, 07:03 PM
Ain't no thang. Quizy comes up big Friday night.

Gonzo - do you only hate Cuban because he's white?

ludo21
05-18-2006, 10:32 PM
And thats pretty much the game!!

Suns played horrific from what i saw tonight. Especially in this 4th Q, way too many missed layups. Forced 3's, the whole shabang!!

Cant wait for Game 7, lets all hope for a 4 OT buzzer beater by Bell ;D

Nuggets4
05-18-2006, 11:27 PM
The Sports Guy (ESPN.com) is right. David Stern for President. Seriously, I'd rather have him sitting down to negotiate with North Korea than any other politician in the world. He would make them cry.

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2006, 11:38 PM
The Terry suspension will really hurt. The two-guard option is taken away by Stu Jackson. The Mavs will likely start Stack or Daniels and will have to play differently.

I think that the suspension is a load of garbage. Terry flailed an arm in the direction of Finley's crotch, which was basically in his face. This happened right after Ginobili slammed Terry while he had the ball on the floor. There is footage that shows that something happened to Finley, but just what it was is unclear. The Ginobili foul is as clear as day though. All of this happening after the refs flubbed up a Dallas timeout and threw up another jump ball because they were not able to make clear judgments in the clutch is just adding insult to injury.

What is really confusing is why they suspend Terry for defending himself at the bottom of a pile of people that had already landed blows on him, and that they let a guy like Reg Evans remain on the team after the infamous nutgrab. The judgment doesnt fit the crime. The Bell suspension was obvious. The Artest suspension was done because of Artests history. Terry has a spotless history and was in a compromised position after taking a shot to his head. It just doesnt seem right. Dallas and their fans have experienced a huge injustice.

I know that Dallas is the better team, and I'm sure that they will be as ticked as their fandom is right now. I hope that the Mavs will give the dirty Spurs, the Spurs' friend Stu Jackson, and their arrogant fans a nice gift on Friday.

epicSocialism4tw
05-18-2006, 11:38 PM
The Sports Guy (ESPN.com) is right. David Stern for President. Seriously, I'd rather have him sitting down to negotiate with North Korea than any other politician in the world. He would make them cry.

Wow. ::)

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 05:53 AM
This series is over. It's amusing to watch Gonzo grasp at hope just because the Spurs squeaked out a refs-aided win.

55CrushEm
05-19-2006, 07:20 AM
So Bob.....are you still feeling confident that the Mavs will win the series? .....big blow losing Jason Terry for game 6.

I'm sure Gonzo will have a big plate of crow for you......if they do wind up losing the series.

Oh, and I noticed many like to call Duncan a crybaby.....did you happen to hear Cuban on the radio? Jeeeesh.....

Finally, for the record.....I hate the NBA. It's pretty much all street ball now....filled with hip-hop'ers.....a lousy, selfish sport.....although I used to be a fan. I have little to no respect for David Stern.....when he pussed out on NOT banning Sprewell from the game for life.

That having been said....the calls in game 4 CLEARLY went the Mavs way, as many pointed out.....I did watch the game, as there was nothing else on TV Monday night. So for what it's worth.....I am a totally unbiased viewer of this series now, and yes, to repeat....the refs were handing that game to Dirk and Co.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 07:40 AM
The refs even out in the end. I am done whining about them.

The Mavericks are the better team. The Spurs cannot beat them three times in a row.

Tonight the American Airlines Center will be filled with righteous anger.

The Spurs are walking into a hornet's nest.

TONIGHT...THE AXE COMES DOWN.

El Guapo
05-19-2006, 07:42 AM
The Mav's are the better team and will win. This morning mark cuban was on the radio completely bashing the refs and the league and saying that the fans should boo finley louder than ever tonight. :thumbs:

ro_50
05-19-2006, 07:45 AM
The Terry suspension will really hurt. The two-guard option is taken away by Stu Jackson. The Mavs will likely start Stack or Daniels and will have to play differently.

I think that the suspension is a load of garbage. Terry flailed an arm in the direction of Finley's crotch, which was basically in his face. This happened right after Ginobili slammed Terry while he had the ball on the floor. There is footage that shows that something happened to Finley, but just what it was is unclear. The Ginobili foul is as clear as day though. All of this happening after the refs flubbed up a Dallas timeout and threw up another jump ball because they were not able to make clear judgments in the clutch is just adding insult to injury.

What is really confusing is why they suspend Terry for defending himself at the bottom of a pile of people that had already landed blows on him, and that they let a guy like Reg Evans remain on the team after the infamous nutgrab. The judgment doesnt fit the crime. The Bell suspension was obvious. The Artest suspension was done because of Artests history. Terry has a spotless history and was in a compromised position after taking a shot to his head. It just doesnt seem right. Dallas and their fans have experienced a huge injustice.

I know that Dallas is the better team, and I'm sure that they will be as ticked as their fandom is right now. I hope that the Mavs will give the dirty Spurs, the Spurs' friend Stu Jackson, and their arrogant fans a nice gift on Friday.


You know what, tough sh*t. He was seen on the videotape throwing a punch with a closed fist. Thats part of the freaking code of conduct, which warrants a suspension. Rules are rules.

Stop whining about it, the Mavs are good enough w/o Terry to defeat the Spurs. They have plenty of offensive firepower in Stackhouse, Daniels to ease the pressure of Terry and can go back to starting Adrian Griffin.

David Robinson got suspended in game 1 in the First round of the 2003 NBA playoffs against the Suns when he place one foot on the court from the bench during a argument on the court between two players.

ONE FOOT. And he quickly took it back after a second.

And Robinson's reputation as a person and player is SECOND TO NONE in the NBA.

Rules are rules. NBA rules dictate that if a player steps on the court during an on-court incident, it warrants a one-game suspension.

The Spurs brass didnt complain about it, they started Danny Ferry in his place for game two, which the Spurs had to win to not go down to Phoenix 0-2.

They wound winning the championship that year.

The Spurs are not dirty, most of the fans are not arrogant (I know I'm not) and they are not friends w/ Stu Jackson.

Please don't start this again about this BS consipiracy CRAP.

Mavs are still up 3-2 and are playing at home tonight.

That should be motivation enough.

55CrushEm
05-19-2006, 07:47 AM
The Spurs cannot beat them three times in a row.


How come? Didn't the Mavs with 3 in a row in this series already?

I also thought the same about Phoenix in the 1st round.....

55CrushEm
05-19-2006, 07:49 AM
The Mav's are the better team and will win. This morning mark cuban was on the radio completely bashing the refs and the league and saying that the fans should boo finley louder than ever tonight. :thumbs:

Oh, now THAT makes sense! Boo Finley because he got sucker-punched in the nuts ??

Perhaps Terry should go join Logan Mankins and the Patriots.....the nut-punching duo.....

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 07:54 AM
How come? Didn't the Mavs with 3 in a row in this series already?


Yes. They are the better team.

ro_50
05-19-2006, 08:01 AM
Instead of realizing the Mavs are on the verge of accomplishing something great, which is eliminating the team in the Western Conf. that besides the Lakers w/ Shaq and Kobe, teams have been trying to chase down for years: what do the Mavs owner do - he whines, complains and b*tches.

Think about this, The Spurs under Tim Duncan have been eliminated in the playoffs by only three teams, the Jazz in 1998's Second Round, the Suns in 2000 First Round (a series which TD didnt play in because of a knee injury suffered late that season, if he doesnt get injured, they roll in that series) and the Lakers (2001, 2002 and 2004).

So in essence, one team in the new millenium has eliminated the Spurs out West, the Lakers, which had great teams during their run at the top.

Cuban is one of the biggest whiners Ive seen in NBA HISTORY. Great owner, he has done a remarkable job in aiding in the turnaround of that franchise, he loves the game but just stop whining already.

The main reason why the Mavs are one win away is because AJ has outcoached his mentor (and no, his mentor is not Nellie) Pop, their offense has been in perfect harmony and they have hit some big jump shots. I complain about the officiating but the Spurs didnt convert down the stretch in games 3 and 4 to win those games.

Do Mavs fans realize what their team is on the verge of doing, eliminating a team that has won 3 RINGS in 7 years, 2 out of the last three, and a team that has been among the top teams in the ENTIRE LEAGUE FOR YEARS. If it wasnt for the Lakers and Shaq and Kobe, lord knows how many rings the Spurs would have had by now.

So Cuban, stop whining and embrace what is your team is on the verge of doing.

El Guapo
05-19-2006, 08:05 AM
Oh, now THAT makes sense! Boo Finley because he got sucker-punched in the nuts ??

Perhaps Terry should go join Logan Mankins and the Patriots.....the nut-punching duo.....

Eh, if you listened to the conversation on the radio you would understand. they were questioning whether or not it actually warranted a suspension. and the fac t that they think it was purely acting on finley's part.

--if the mavs are "whining, complaining and bitching" they learned it from the best; the spurs. Ive never seen such retardedness. Everytime duncan, parker, etc. foul they throw up their arms like a boy in gradeschool, "me? me? It couldnt be me!"

ro_50
05-19-2006, 08:07 AM
Eh, if you listened to the conversation on the radio you would understand. they were questioning whether or not it actually warranted a suspension. and the fac t that they think it was purely acting on finley's part.

--if the mavs are "whining, complaining and b****ing" they learned it from the best; the spurs. Ive never seen such retardedness. Everytime duncan, parker, etc. foul they throw up their arms like a boy in gradeschool, "me? me? It couldnt be me!"


Dude, I'VE SAID THIS REPEATEDLY DURING THE SERIES, EVERY PLAYER WHINES AND COMPLAINS TO THE REFS IN THEIR WAY.

GEEZ, I CANT STAND WHEN SOME OF THESE MAVS FANS THINK THE SPURS ARE THE ONLY WHINERS AND COMPLAINERS. THE MAVS DO IT TOO, THE SUNS DO IT, EVERY TEAM DOES IT.

Nuggets4
05-19-2006, 08:37 AM
If Mavs fans boo Finley, they're morons. Especially after all he did for that franchise.

DarkHorse30
05-19-2006, 08:38 AM
Finally, for the record.....I hate the NBA. It's pretty much all street ball now....filled with hip-hop'ers.....a lousy, selfish sport.....although I used to be a fan. I have little to no respect for David Stern.....when he pussed out on NOT banning Sprewell from the game for life.



word. No-Basketball-Allowed. Stern wrecked it.

El Guapo
05-19-2006, 08:40 AM
If Mavs fans boo Finley, they're morons. Especially after all he did for that franchise.

he didnt do crap, AND he's still being payed by dallas.

Nuggets4
05-19-2006, 08:43 AM
he didnt do crap, AND he's still being payed by dallas.

And he also carried your franchise for a few years.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2006, 08:49 AM
Finley is Public Enemy #1 at the game tonight. If you didn't think the boos were loud enough in this series so far, wait until tonight. He/the Spurs organization were the ones that submitted the tape of the nut punch to the league.

Fin ("Mangina") was cheered very loudly during the regular season. Fans really do still appreciate what he did. But now he plays for the enemy, the same team that is looking to take out the Mavericks. If the season wasn't on the line he would be applauded, no doubt.

Boobs McGee
05-19-2006, 09:15 AM
So, just had to make an observational comment.

While watching the whooping of the suns last night...sorry ludo ;) ....I noticed two things.

1. The Clips did anything they wanted to in the paint.

2. and more importantly...SHAWN MARION HAS THE UGLIEST LOOKING SHOT I'VE EVER SEEN. EVER. All of the 13 year old girls on my nieces team have better looking shots. It really is painful to watch. Everytime the ball is grotesquely pushed with two hands at an awkward diagonal angle from the center of his chest, I'm amazed he gets anywhere near the rim. And then it swishes through. Simply horrible. FUGLY.

anyways
continue on with the thread

GonzoLays
05-19-2006, 09:55 AM
Its obvious that Jet Terry was going for Finley's family jewels. What a shame too, he was playing great this series. Maybe they should post a sign in the Mavs lockerroom thats says, "Please refrain from touching the other team's balls. Thank you, management."

The problem with the Mavs is that they don't know how to deal with adversity in the playoffs. Last years playoff run was marred by Notwitzki's infamous hissy fit. This years run will be known as Jett Terry's nutgate.

I don't understand the Mavs. When Jet Terry was on the ground fighting for the loose ball, everybody else was thinking about basketball, and Jet was thinking about how he could grab a feel of Finley's balls. Where is your head at Jet? Did Dirk tell you to do it? Were both of you guys jamming out to David Hasselhof before the game and you started to feel a little gay?

As Avery would say, "Foooooocus. Weeeee neeeeeeeed to foooooooocus."

RhymesayersDU
05-19-2006, 09:59 AM
Avery is quickly becoming one of my favorite guys in the league. Earlier in the season, when the Mavs dropped a couple games, his tirade/meltdown was so awesome. The best line of that was saying he needs to change his hair. He's the man.

jossjeff
05-19-2006, 10:00 AM
Ugly shot or not Marion is a player.

Dude has been the Suns best player since game 1.

Nash has been real ordinary, Bell and Marion have been carrying them.

Rack my boys for hanging tough.

What the **** is with the long ass break in between games?

Bypassing the weekend for a Monday night game?

Scheduling conflict in the desert?

Whatever, it ****ing sucks that the Suns will get a chance to get their legs back.

The Clippers simply have to defend the 3 point shot better. Give up the midrange jumper, I'm good with that.

Otherwise keep doing what we are doing. Pound it in, slow it down.

The Suns may just basically be a team of jump shooters but you gotta admit that they are one hell of a team of jump shooters.

The Clips are ahead of schedule as far as the playoffs go but winning game 7 in Phoenix might be a tall order.

Still I'll be there pulling for my boys.

Good series so far, game 5 took about 5 years off my life.

-Slap-
05-19-2006, 11:03 AM
Oh, and I noticed many like to call Duncan a crybaby.....did you happen to hear Cuban on the radio? Jeeeesh.....

The Mav's are the better team and will win. This morning mark cuban was on the radio completely bashing the refs and the league and saying that the fans should boo finley louder than ever tonight. :thumbs:

Mark Cuban is arguably the biggest douchebag in professional sports.

http://www.rutherfordfamily.net/Mark68262057093_3300_1-1.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 11:06 AM
Cuban is not stupid. He's playing this up to get the crowd excited. And from the callers I've been hearing on the radio today...it's working.

-Slap-
05-19-2006, 11:08 AM
Cuban is not stupid. He's playing this up to get the crowd excited. And from the callers I've been hearing on the radio today...it's working.
The stupid leading the stupid.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 11:09 AM
I'd also put money on Marquise Daniels starting.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2006, 11:33 AM
Stack is starting. Avery came out with that this morning. But Quizi will be the first off the bench.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 11:43 AM
Stack is starting. Avery came out with that this morning. But Quizi will be the first off the bench.

Avery said that? I am surprised because when Daniels starts, he puts up very good numbers, and Stackhouse is their best off the bench guy.

GonzoLays
05-19-2006, 11:50 AM
I'd also put money on Marquise Daniels starting.

How much you wanna bet?

epicSocialism4tw
05-19-2006, 02:07 PM
The stupid leading the stupid.

Man...he must be doing something right. His team is stacked with nice young developing players, a young star head coach, and peaking veterans. They are giving the world champion spurs all they can handle in a year where SA had a better record than any of their championship teams ever had.

Meanwhile...In LA...the Lakers' BT has mismanaged their club into thinking that giving the un-playoff-like Phoenix Suns a good series in the first round is accomplishing something. Way to go, Buss and Kupcheck. Cuban made you look like a couple of bumbling fools. :thumbsup:

rbackfactory80
05-19-2006, 03:39 PM
Pistons and Spurs force game sevens, go on to meet in the championship.

The Big E
05-19-2006, 03:42 PM
It's actually not legit to bag on LA, IMO. They've done a great job historically of remaining competitive while bridging the gap to their next championship-level teams. Everyone else has cratered after they've finished their championship runs, and taken much longer to get back to the top again, if at all.

As it stands now, Cuban hasn't done shiat.

Archer81
05-19-2006, 04:04 PM
is it football? no? well then what the **** difference does it make?


:Broncos:

Nuggets4
05-19-2006, 05:35 PM
I chose Cavs & Mavs because I have to keep my reverse mojo working.

yavoon
05-19-2006, 06:02 PM
pistons are defending like pussies and have been this entire series. their defense is more reminiscent of a more talented suns defense than the defense I grew to love. they need to star manning up and denying ppl crap.

-Slap-
05-19-2006, 06:44 PM
He does have skills...but as a player...he hasn't accomplaished anything yet....so I'm going to hold off calling him the king until hr does....but he is damn good.
What do you mean he hasn't accomplished anything as a player?

yavoon
05-19-2006, 06:50 PM
its maddening how crappy the pistons defense has gotten under flip saunders.

ludo21
05-19-2006, 07:41 PM
Wow!!!

Get A Board< Holy Crap!!

ludo21
05-19-2006, 07:43 PM
Are you kidding me!!

BOX OUT!!!

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 09:08 PM
Mavericks winning, biatches. Dirk is having a hell of a game. Duncan choking!

ludo21
05-19-2006, 09:37 PM
56 all, going to be a down to the wire game!

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 09:42 PM
Mavericks in control. Duncan choking. I love it!

SoCalBronco
05-19-2006, 10:32 PM
Mavericks in control. Duncan choking. I love it!

Heh.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-19-2006, 10:38 PM
Clearly the Mavericks missed Jason Terry. Stackhouse and Harris were pathetic tonight. Game 7 will be different.

-Slap-
05-19-2006, 10:46 PM
It's actually not legit to bag on LA, IMO. They've done a great job historically of remaining competitive while bridging the gap to their next championship-level teams. Everyone else has cratered after they've finished their championship runs, and taken much longer to get back to the top again, if at all.

As it stands now, Cuban hasn't done shiat.
Cuban will never win anything. I doubt the Lakers will win again, unless they bring back Jerry West.

The Big E
05-19-2006, 11:40 PM
Cuban will never win anything. I doubt the Lakers will win again, unless they bring back Jerry West.
They are definitely not the same without West, and the other part of the equation has been Jerry Buss, who was always willing to be bold. Now that Buss is starting to turn the reins over to his kids, I think that'll be one more obstacle for them to overcome.

Ginobili was huge tonight. The Mavs tightened in the 4th, and the experience of the Spurs showed. Is this going to be the second year in a row that one of Dallas's former players comes back to knock them out?

wolf754life
05-19-2006, 11:42 PM
Congrats to the spurs, what a class act. Great guys, model citizens, and decent ballplayers with a great big heart. They haven't won anything yet but just to come back from the adversity, the bad calls, Cuban running them and the town down! We all can learn a lesson!

YOU DIE HARD, YOU DO THAT IN ALL THINGS! (Montezuma Monroe)!

DarkHorse30
05-19-2006, 11:47 PM
pfffttt. It's funny to see the spurs fans complaining about a bad call.

ludo21
05-19-2006, 11:57 PM
lol, was avery going to cry about the refs after the game?? Ha!

Clockwork Orange
05-20-2006, 12:00 AM
Tim Duncan upon being asked a question after the game about Mark Cuban.

"I have nothing to say to Mark Cuban. Nothing at all."

JCMElway
05-20-2006, 01:21 AM
Sloppy.

Sloppy.

Sloppy.

My god the Pistons looked disgusting in the first 2 1/2 quarters. And they were still in the game. They were lucky not to be down 10 points going into halftime.

I think there's a very good chance that the Pistons will pull out game 7, but if they're offensive execution is like it was in the first half of game 6, say good night. No way you can dodge the LeBron bullet that many times.

8 turnovers in the first half?

57% free throw shooting?

-7 in rebounds?

This is not the Pistons squad I have enjoyed in the playoffs for the past two years and I have no idea why they're tanking now. Hopefully it was just a 3-4 game funk where the Pistons got bored and they'll start ramping up for the push into the 3rd and 4th round of the playoffs; kinda like Denver's first game and a half of last season. (We were dead in the water until Champ's interception woke us up.)

If D-Town does survive it will be very interesting to see how they come out against the Heat and how the series goes.

But first things first. Game 7. Let's return to form Detroit!!!

Northman
05-20-2006, 08:29 AM
pistons are defending like pussies and have been this entire series. their defense is more reminiscent of a more talented suns defense than the defense I grew to love. they need to star manning up and denying ppl crap.


No kidding, Ben has been invisible in this series.

Northman
05-20-2006, 08:30 AM
Clearly the Mavericks missed Jason Terry. Stackhouse and Harris were pathetic tonight. Game 7 will be different.


So much for Duncan choking eh? LOL

Nuggets4
05-20-2006, 10:53 AM
GAME SEVENS!

I love the NBA.

ludo21
05-20-2006, 10:56 AM
GAME SEVENS!

I love the NBA.


3 of em, its awesome!!!

Dang Cavs gave me a freakinbg ulcer last night, they couldnt rebound to save their lives in the last 20 seconds. Freaking rediculous!!

Cant wait till Monday! And its only the Semis!!

ludo21
05-20-2006, 11:27 PM
Anyone know why the Suns get 4 days off??

Kinda weird, but im not complaining, Nash needs it!

Nuggets4
05-21-2006, 09:59 AM
Anyone know why the Suns get 4 days off??

Kinda weird, but im not complaining, Nash needs it!

Because the NBA felt that I needed a night off without any basketball.

They were wrong by the way. Damn them.

ludo21
05-21-2006, 10:13 AM
Because the NBA felt that I needed a night off without any basketball.

They were wrong by the way. Damn them.


LOL

3 est today! Come on CAVVVVSSSSSSS (JCM wont like this. ;D)

rbackfactory80
05-21-2006, 10:15 AM
LOL

3 est today! Come on CAVVVVSSSSSSS (JCM wont like this. ;D)

3 est today! F the cavs

Northman
05-21-2006, 10:17 AM
Im kinda pulling for the Cavs. I never thought they had a chance in this series. Especially going down 2-0 early.


My Hope:

Clippers
Cavs
Spurs

Nuggets4
05-21-2006, 10:26 AM
I want a Clippers - Cavs world championship because no one expected it. Which naturally means we'll get Pistons - Spurs.

RhymesayersDU
05-21-2006, 11:17 AM
Because the NBA felt that I needed a night off without any basketball.

They were wrong by the way. Damn them.
word, basketball would have been nice last night.

ludo21
05-21-2006, 12:13 PM
Im kinda pulling for the Cavs. I never thought they had a chance in this series. Especially going down 2-0 early.


My Hope:

Clippers
Cavs
Spurs


MY hope:
Suns
Cavs
Spurs

A Suns/Cavs final would be fine with me! :sunshine:

Northman
05-21-2006, 02:43 PM
MY hope:
Suns
Cavs
Spurs

A Suns/Cavs final would be fine with me! :sunshine:


Having the Suns win wont bother me, i like Nash. But with the Clippers finally sniffing success i would like to see them go on further.

ludo21
05-21-2006, 02:47 PM
Having the Suns win wont bother me, i like Nash. But with the Clippers finally sniffing success i would like to see them go on further.


Yeah I wouldnt be terribly upset to see the Clipps win...but im a suns homer.

Good game thus far, Cavs need others to step up if they have a shot at winning. Just keep it close down the stretch and the Cavs have a chance.

JCM.....nervous yet? ;)

ludo21
05-21-2006, 03:28 PM
EVERYTHING going the Pistons way, wow, what a quarter!

BOX OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man, if i was coach Brown id be pissed!!

Game 7, 4th quarter, Win or GO HOME!, I love the Playoffs!

JCMElway
05-21-2006, 10:38 PM
Hey Lud,

I wouldn't say that I was nervous, but just a step shy. Antsy, maybe?

The Pistons better get their shooting touch back or the series with the Heat won't be vewry competitve. Once again the FT shooting was awful, way too many turnovers, and Chauncey was practically a non factor.

Now, for the Pistons defense. 61 points allowed? Only 23 points allowed in the 2nd half? That is just sick. And Tayshaun is a GOD. Simply unflappable.

I hafta tip my hat to the Cavs defense. They really brought it. Great series.

Pistons in 6, no way does Miami play D as well as the Cavs did! And the Cavs may have done the Pistons a favor by playing them so tough. Their eyes are WIDE open and they should be ready to roll against a team that will have to shake the rust off.

The Cavs may have a lot of success in the future but for now here's a shout out to all you lebron homers:

DEE-TROIT, BASKET-BALL!!!

yavoon
05-21-2006, 10:41 PM
5 fg's in the second....HALF. now thats how u do it.

ludo21
05-21-2006, 11:16 PM
Yep, Pistons D was simpy stifling!!!

Heat have a good shot at beating them, but Pistons are the better team, so we shall see.

I want Wade to do well, but i hate Shaq and Riley, so i will root for Wade to dominate, but Detroit win. Ha!

Prince's arms are monkey like, and they work like magic!

Cant wait till tommorow, 2 fantastic game 7's to watch!

Pick Six
05-22-2006, 12:21 AM
Anyone know why the Suns get 4 days off??

Kinda weird, but im not complaining, Nash needs it!

The WWE had a PPV in Phoenix Sunday night, so the building was occupied.

The Big E
05-22-2006, 12:32 AM
The Pistons really need to play at the top of their game, because I really don't want to see Shaq in the finals.

I'm picking the Suns and Spurs, but wouldn't be surprised to see either team lose. I think Dallas is physically better than the Spurs right now, but I don't see them having enough mental toughness to pull out a game 7 against the defending champs. If they do, it'll be a huge breakthrough for them.

epicSocialism4tw
05-22-2006, 01:38 AM
JCM, I hope that you enjoyed your Pistons' victory. I know that those guys sure did. I would say congrats, but you dont play for the team...that has always been strange to me...anyhow, I guess I'll say: DUDE! YOUR TEAM IS ONE SERIES AWAY FROM THE FINALS! THAT'S AWESOME FOR YOU! (I really mean that :) ) Enjoy the ECF's. It's been a nice year to be a Pistons fan. If the Mavs get there, that sig bet will still be on.