John Clayton Reports : KC to get " Law " and order :

[ROYC75]

John Clayton is reporting that Ty Law and KC will come to terms by Friday on a 3 or 4 year deal.

Does this guy have gas left in the tank ?

[Rascal]

He will be better then what you have (Walls). I don't think he has enough for 3-4 years though. 1-2 would be better.

[GonzoLays]

I would love to hate on this move but this is Ty Law we are talking about. He had ten freaking interceptions last year after everyone doubted him and said he was too old and not the same player after coming off surgery. He is the truth. Good move for KC.

[Clockwork Orange]

Figured this was coming after the Broncos landed Javon Walker.

[Hotrod]

He will certainly upgrade their secondary I just hope they seriously over pay for his services :yep:

[ROYC75]

Figured this was coming after the Broncos landed Javon Walker.

Kinda what I thought. Plus experence with a cover 2 D..... Herm's baby .

[Broncoman13]

John Clayton is reporting that Ty Law and KC will come to terms by Friday on a 3 or 4 year deal.

Does this guy have gas left in the tank ?


He does a good job catching the ball when he's in position, but he's been beat more than in years past. He's more of a gambler now, but like Rascal said, he's better than what you have now. I'd be happy to get him if I were you. I'll be happy if he plays more than another year or two...for you!

[Orange_Beard]

He will certainly upgrade their secondary I just hope they seriously over pay for his services :yep:

$hit, I would be an upgrade in there secondary

[Crushaholic]

The funny thing is if this deal goes down, Walls' dream of starting just went out the window (again).:rofl:

[Broncoman13]

Where's a mod??? Somebody needs to hook ROYC's sig up big time!

[ROYC75]

BTA, Friday is a few days away, no contract yet. Any team can jump in and outbid us for him.

Time will tell .......

[ROYC75]

He does a good job catching the ball when he's in position, but he's been beat more than in years past. He's more of a gambler now, but like Rascal said, he's better than what you have now. I'd be happy to get him if I were you. I'll be happy if he plays more than another year or two...for you!


Me thinks he will have to rely on safety help alot.

[Rascal]

I would sign him to a 2 year deal with a third year option personally because who knows how much he does have left.

Personally if this happens I just hope Carl bends over and gives Law the 10 mil guaranteed he wants.

[Odysseus]

The funny thing is if this deal goes down, Walls' dream of starting just went out the window (again).:rofl:

I have to say cudos to the Chiefs for their off season defensive moves. I'm not sure if Herm or Grover (That muppet defensive coach) will be able to capitalize on the good players they are picking up but they are dialing the right numbers right now.

It's funny watching the Chiefs this year. It's like they mirror everything Denver does.

[SoonerBronco]

Where's a mod??? Somebody needs to hook ROYC's sig up big time!

That's for damn sure! C'mon Old Dude. Use your new superpowers....:wiggle:

[Hulamau]

I have to say cudos to the Chiefs for their off season defensive moves. I'm not sure if Herm or Grover (That muppet defensive coach) will be able to capitalize on the good players they are picking up but they are dialing the right numbers right now.

It's funny watching the Chiefs this year. It's like they mirror everything Denver does.


WHo is the chiefs d coordinator now? I havent kept up with them.

Also anyone know when our first minicamp is?

[Mile High Shack]

didn't they try and sign him last year too?

[The Big E]

This is a little OT, but did anyone see during late Day 1 draft coverage where they were talking about Hali and the Chef's draft, and Tom Jackson kept saying, "but can he tackle?", followed by a hearty laugh?

Maybe there was something I was missing, but it sure seemed like he was laughing directly at KC's D, and really, who could blame him?

BTW, Law is an improvement, and I wish we had Hali instead of the Chefs.

[Crushaholic]

This is a little OT, but did anyone see during late Day 1 draft coverage where they were talking about Hali and the Chef's draft, and Tom Jackson kept saying, "but can he tackle?", followed by a hearty laugh?

Maybe there was something I was missing, but it sure seemed like he was laughing directly at KC's D, and really, who could blame him?

BTW, Law is an improvement, and I wish we had Hali instead of the Chefs.

Tom Jackson has always been one of my favorite Broncos and continues to be one of my favorite ESPN talking heads...

[crazyhorse]

It's funny watching the Chiefs this year. It's like they mirror everything Denver does.

Explain?

Denver is doing nothing to help thier defense.

[Kaylore]

Explain?

Denver is doing nothing to help thier defense.
I think he means that some of what they do is reactive to our moves.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

This isn't reactive to the Javon Walker deal. It's been in the works for awhile now.

I am stoked.

[Tha rock]

This isn't reactive to the Javon Walker deal. It's been in the works for awhile now.

I am stoked.


i am to moss had some great games against himLOL

[sirhcyennek81]

Yeah...KC still wont win a playoff game...

:Broncos:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yeah...KC still wont win a playoff game...

:Broncos:

It's a new year. Our new coach has a track record of playoff success in his young head coaching career. Get ready for Herm's Chiefs: The Defense Returns.

[sirhcyennek81]

It's a new year. Our new coach has a track record of playoff success in his young head coaching career. Get ready for Herm's Chiefs: The Defense Returns.


Uh huh. So...the Chiefs still wont win a playoff game...

:Broncos:

[Clockwork Orange]

It's a new year. Our new coach has a track record of playoff success in his young head coaching career. Get ready for Herm's Chiefs: The Defense Returns.

Hmmmm, where have we heard this before? :kiddingme

[Ballhawk]

Bootleg

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bootleg

Tamba Hali will wreck your bootlegs.

[azbroncfan]

I think this is a bogus report, don't know for sure but was lurking over at the planet and some guy was posting a report from july of O5. Anyone else listened to espn and heard this?

[sirhcyennek81]

Tamba Hali will wreck your bootlegs.


Like Allen, and Bell and Johnson were supposed to?

:Broncos:

[2KBack]

Tamba Hali will wreck your bootlegs.

Rookies don't wreck bootlegs, they aren't disciplined enough

[Clockwork Orange]

Tamba Hali will wreck your bootlegs.

It's officially the offseason. :laugh:

[Tha rock]

It's a new year. Our new coach has a track record of playoff success in his young head coaching career. Get ready for Herm's Chiefs: The Defense Returns.



so does art shell

[Bob's your Information Minister]

so does art shell

Art hasn't been a head coach since 1994.

[Tha rock]

Art hasn't been a head coach since 1994.



doesnt matter his frist season with us we were in the post season, he also reached the agc title game with us. I love herm hes my favorite coach but i think art is a better coach.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

doesnt matter his frist season with us we were in the post season, he also reached the agc title game with us. I love herm hes my favorite coach but i think art is a better coach.

Doesn't matter?

Well, I hope he gets the Raiders to that "agc" Title game again this year. Hilarious!

[Paladin]

Whoa!!! I give this thread a great big freaking *yawn* yawn.

Who gives a damm about KC?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Whoa!!! I give this thread a great big freaking *yawn* yawn.

Who gives a damm about KC?

Plummer fought the Law...and the Law won.

[TheDave]

Tamba Hali will wreck your bootlegs.

As long as Goooooonther is there the Bootleg will always work :)

[Raider Bill]

Art hasn't been a head coach since 1994.


Yet Art Shell has a more recent playoff win than the Chiefs. :rofl:

[TheDave]

so does art shell

I can't wait to watch the raiders... the combination of that coaching staff and Aaron Brooks is going to be pure comedy ROFL!

[Ballhawk]

I can't wait to watch the raiders... the combination of that coaching staff and Aaron Brooks is going to be pure comedy ROFL!

Commitment to top ten draft picks

[clean]

It's a new year. Our new coach has a track record of playoff success in his young head coaching career.

"That’s why I think he will, if at all possible, hire Herm Edwards. Let’s face it: There’s nothing about Edwards that gets your heart racing. He has a losing record with the Jets. He has never coached a team to more than 10 wins. He has won a couple of playoff games — two more than the Chiefs have in the last decade — but he is probably best remembered for the way his Jets went into a Robert Novak conservative shell in the final minutes last season in Pittsburgh and lost a playoff game they had won."


Best winning percentages since 1989:

1. San Francisco, .618

2. Pittsburgh, .613

3. Denver, .610

4. Kansas City, .594

5. Green Bay, .588.


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/13551859.htm

[clean]

Herm's resume also includes the following:

2003 6 wins 10 losses 4th in the AFC East
2005 4 wins 12 losses 4th in the AFC East

[TheDave]

Commitment to top ten draft picks


This offseason tells me there only goal is the #1 pick... good lord what a mess of an organization

[elsid13]

This offseason tells me there only goal is the #1 pick... good lord what a mess of an organization


It a Dead guy's party, who could ask for anything more???

[TheManeMan]

Damn...if true...Chiefs came up...two solid CB's and if Hali helps the Pass Rush...they may even jump to 20th overall in Defense this year...Ha!

[broncsyanks]

ty law and sam madison ouch!! and knight at safety. our offense better be ready to fly. i knew he would go there.

[Ballhawk]

ty law and sam madison ouch!! and knight at safety. our offense better be ready to fly. i knew he would go there.

We never win there and KC never wins here or in the playoffs...so this signing really changes nothing.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

ty law and sam madison ouch!! and knight at safety. our offense better be ready to fly. i knew he would go there.

I guess I'm cautiously optimistic. At least Gunther isn't running the show anymore.

[watermock]

This isn't reactive to the Javon Walker deal. It's been in the works for awhile now.

I am stoked.

Looks like you guys are finally getting an infusion of youth. :spit:

[crazyhorse]

I guess I'm cautiously optimistic. At least Gunther isn't running the show anymore.

Gunther is running it more now then ever.

[SoCalBronco]

That would be a huge addition for them. It would allow KC to blitz far more because they are safer in the back four. Only downside is age, its only a short term thing, but still it would be a pretty big boost next year.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Gunther is running it more now then ever.

Hopefully not with Herm around. The only thing Gunther proved to me over these two seasons was that he needs a defensive head coach to hold his hand.

[crazyhorse]

Hopefully not with Herm around. The only thing Gunther proved to me over these two seasons was that he needs a defensive head coach to hold his hand.

Cunningham not being able to win with Vermiels defensive coaching staff came as no real surprise. I would like to have thought that he could win with the people Vermiel had in place. In fact, I thought he would.

I would be willing to bet the defense is better this year. It was better last year. Maybe not on paper, but I saw vast improvement in areas. Especially at the LBer position.

Herm/iel already said he would let the coaches coach their players.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I would be willing to bet the defense is better this year. It was better last year. Maybe not on paper, but I saw vast improvement in areas.

I thought it was better on paper than in practice. We improved the defensive scoring average by a full touchdown. Pretty good.

But I still don't like Gunther for his insistence on doing stupid things like not putting Surtain on the No. 1 WR. Then there was his quote this offseason that Kendrell Bell was everything any defensive coach could ever want in an outside linebacker.

I don't trust Gunther to make the right decision, like starting Keyaron Fox this year instead of that turd Bell.

[crazyhorse]

I thought it was better on paper than in practice. We improved the defensive scoring average by a full touchdown. Pretty good.

But I still don't like Gunther for his insistence on doing stupid things like not putting Surtain on the No. 1 WR. Then there was his quote this offseason that Kendrell Bell was everything any defensive coach could ever want in an outside linebacker.

I don't trust Gunther to make the right decision, like starting Keyaron Fox this year instead of that turd Bell.

Watch more.

Talk less.

Dont get so wrapped up in comments from coaches about thier players. Form your own opinion and watch the games. You will see that the coaches know who isn't playing well. Sometimes you dont have anything better. You have to talk up the guys you have.

You can bet one thing, GC will put together a LB corps. If the Chiefs buy him a secondary the Chiefs should have a good defense.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

That's a good point, but I've soured on Gunther. If we show improvement next year I'll be giving all the credit to Herm and the new defensive coaches.

[azbroncfan]

Anyone heard anything on this??? This is probably speculation from an article in 05 that chefs were going to visit law.

[Sarcastro]

Damn...if true...Chiefs came up...two solid CB's and if Hali helps the Pass Rush...they may even jump to 20th overall in Defense this year...Ha!

They might even be able to go from 16th in ppg to the top ten.

[Sarcastro]

Anyone heard anything on this??? This is probably speculation from an article in 05 that chefs were going to visit law.

It is actually speculation from an article from way back in 99 when Gunther said he really likes good CBs.

[broncos love]

Hopefully not with Herm around. The only thing Gunther proved to me over these two seasons was that he needs a defensive head coach to hold his hand.
way to show your loyality chiefs fan... oh excuse closet bronco fan

[Bob's your Information Minister]

way to show your loyality chiefs fan... oh excuse closet bronco fan

I can't win. If I support Gunther, I'm accused of being a homer. If I talk down Gunther, I'm accused of being a closet Bronco fan. If I become a Bronco fan, I'm accused of being a bandwagon jumper.

[broncos love]

I can't win. If I support Gunther, I'm accused of being a homer. If I talk down Gunther, I'm accused of being a closet Bronco fan. If I become a Bronco fan, I'm accused of being a bandwagon jumper.
I know it bud . I am just having little fun with you

[Jetmeck]

Figured this was coming after the Broncos landed Javon Walker.

It won't matter it only took them like 4 years to finally get it and actually understand you cannot EXPECT the offense to keep producing at the high level they are year after year, they are old. By the time these clueless chumps in KC get a good defense the O will be old except for LJ and he can't do it by himself. They are just that stupid here in KC.

[Jetmeck]

This isn't reactive to the Javon Walker deal. It's been in the works for awhile now.

I am stoked.

Just like you were LAST YEAR..................

[Chiefman420]

I think he means that some of what they do is reactive to our moves.



Yeah because the Chiefs don't need Law for anything but covering Walker. That is the ONLY reason the Chiefs are signing. Out of utter fear of the dreaded Denver Browncos. Who won the last time these two teams played anyway?

[Jetmeck]

Tamba Hali will wreck your bootlegs.


He'll bite as hard as your veterans do.

[Rausch]

i am to moss had some great games against himLOL

Moss got shut down last year by our 4th string CB.

He should have committed supuku after that...

[Rausch]

We never win there and KC never wins here or in the playoffs...so this signing really changes nothing.

Right, and Champ didn't help your defense either...

[Ballhawk]

Right, and Champ didn't help your defense either...

I didnt say it wouldn't help your defense just that it wouldn't help you succeed.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I didnt say it wouldn't help your defense just that it wouldn't help you succeed.

So we'd win as many games without Ty Law as we would with him?

[Ballhawk]

So we'd win as many games without Ty Law as we would with him?

Nope you will win just enough for Carl to call the league office and complain there are not enough playoff seeds ;D

[cutthemdown]

law will help kc in there last gasp atempt to win it all. With Trent Green aging and roaf, sheilds in last yr they don't have a real big window. Richardsons already gone, kennisson is older player also. Surtian is aging and now you add law who is aging it all adds up to a narrow time frame to win. I do think though that law is a gamer. He has a Tyrone Braxton way of finding the ball.

[Rausch]

I didnt say it wouldn't help your defense just that it wouldn't help you succeed.


I might be going out on a limb here but our games tend to go like this

@ Denver = Den 12,900-KC 34

@ KC= KC 30-Den 27

I'm guessing that if we could hold you to below tripple digits @ Mile High we might have a chance to win that game. If Law can even help us keep the game close going into the 4th that's a huge impact...

[brncs_fan]

Nope you will win just enough for Carl to call the league office and complain there are not enough playoff seeds ;D
The problem is Carl doesn't understand playoff seeding does not equal wins.

[Ballhawk]

I might be going out on a limb here but our games tend to go like this

@ Denver = Den 12,900-KC 34

@ KC= KC 30-Den 27

I'm guessing that if we could hold you to below tripple digits @ Mile High we might have a chance to win that game. If Law can even help us keep the game close going into the 4th that's a huge impact...
Let me state if I have not yet done so, Law is a great signing. However, you can not just take what you did on offense and say you will do the same. Has KC made even 1 upgrade on offense? Is not some very key players on that team older and more likely to see a dip in play? I know I am concerned Rod may start to show his age.

I can see your D improving but I can also see your offensive production taking a rather steep drop.

[Rausch]

It won't matter it only took them like 4 years to finally get it and actually understand you cannot EXPECT the offense to keep producing at the high level they are year after year, they are old. By the time these clueless chumps in KC get a good defense the O will be old except for LJ and he can't do it by himself.

There are only three positions where we're old:

Offensive line
QB
one WR (kennison)

I have no reason to suspect we won't find a way to trade/draft/sign players to keep our offensive line top 5. We have for 15 years.

QB - Hey, huge problem. No question.

Kennison - I like the guy, he's productive, but would his loss really be that big a drop off?

[Rausch]

Let me state if I have not yet done so, Law is a great signing. However, you can not just take what you did on offense and say you will do the same. Has KC made even 1 upgrade on offense? Is not some very key players on that team older and more likely to see a dip in play?

I keep hearing this but we keep producing top 5 pts scored.

When Roaf/Shields/Green retire, THEN you'll see a drop off.

And say what you want but it should be obvious LJ is an amazing talent. Putting him in at RB gives us a guy who can score any play from anywhere on the field.

And unless he's injured he'll only be better. Parker (WR) will be better in year 2.

The only loss is Tony Richardson (FB) and that DOES have me worried...


I can see your D improving but I can also see your offensive production taking a rather steep drop.

I keep hearing that but I don't see it.

[ROYC75]

Let me state if I have not yet done so, Law is a great signing. However, you can not just take what you did on offense and say you will do the same. Has KC made even 1 upgrade on offense? Is not some very key players on that team older and more likely to see a dip in play? I know I am concerned Rod may start to show his age.

I can see your D improving but I can also see your offensive production taking a rather steep drop.


People chimmed that before last seasons performance, we were too old........ Look what we did, even with Roaf out for 6 games.

I'll give ya maybe a slight drop ....... BTA, what IF LJ does the same to a 16 game schedule as he did in a PT and 9 game starter ? I don't see a drop IF that happens .

Predicting what we will do or what you will do next season is a crap shoot.... we don't know yet.

[ROYC75]

People claim we have no WR's, but Green still throws for a ton of yards, right up there with Paymeaton Manning.........

[Rausch]

law will help kc in there last gasp atempt to win it all. With Trent Green aging and roaf, sheilds in last yr they don't have a real big window. Richardsons already gone, kennisson is older player also. Surtian is aging and now you add law who is aging it all adds up to a narrow time frame to win.

Pretty much.

I do think though that law is a gamer. He has a Tyrone Braxton way of finding the ball.

He's always played in his head and not just his ability. He'll lose a step, no doubt, no one is immortal, but he's the kind of CB that doesn't just have one aspect to his game. And then you add in some leadership he'll provide.

Wherever he goes it's still a huge plus.

[SoCalBronco]

Its an excellent short term move for the Chiefs. It gives Rausch something to feel better about after his boy Cromartie went to the Chargers. :)

[Rausch]

Its an excellent short term move for the Chiefs. It gives Rausch something to feel better about after his boy Cromartie went to the Chargers. :)

BTW, I predicted that on the draft thread.

Marty has found a way to break the hearts of KC fans even after leaving...:notthissh

[BigRedChief]

The problem is Carl doesn't understand playoff seeding does not equal wins.

And your coach thought Plummer was the answer

[watermock]

PFT is sometimes wrong, but he never misses a rumor and there is nothing on Law. Noone is denying that KC is trying to improve it's D. The problem is that it's 3 years too late.

[Rausch]

Noone is denying that KC is trying to improve it's D. The problem is that it's 3 years too late.

Many said that after Elway's last SB loss.

[brncs_fan]

And your coach thought Plummer was the answer
What does this have to do with seeding?

[Rausch]

What does this have to do with seeding?

What does seeding have to do with Law and what impact he will/won't have in KC?

[Atlas]

I can tell this must be a good thread half the posters on here I have on ignore.

[24champ]

And your coach thought Plummer was the answer
Trint is 0 fer what in the playoffs?

Go back to crap planet please, we dont need chef fans coming in her pulling a Walls ( Chest beating) about how they MIGHT sign a player. Good god!

[Rausch]

I can tell this must be a good thread half the posters on here I have on ignore.

No worries.

With your choice of avatars you could kill and eat Germans and i'd still keep you off the iggy list...

[Rausch]

Trint is 0 fer what in the playoffs?

0 fer 1.

Indeed, that's some increminating evidence...

[watermock]

Many said that after Elway's last SB loss.

Yeah, and it took almost a decade to get back.

[Odysseus]

Explain?

Denver is doing nothing to help thier defense.

I'm bringing you on Jerry Springer show so we can get this over with. The show about guys who just want to beat the crap out of people publicly for the hell of it show. Card table chairs optional.

1. During this off season Herm bought into what Marty was selling. What they are doing on defense is improving the defense. They are bringing in good players and are going to emulate some of the things the Steelers did but how they are copying Denver is "THEY ARE IMPROVING THEIR DEFENSE." Keep it simple. This is a BBS not computer board design emulation.

2. Herm did a pretty good draft this past week. Hali is a rookie but I think the guy is pretty good. I think Ty Law is pretty good. I think having Walls out there is NOW officially a good move. Walls by himself? Please. I think the Chiefs are targeting the Broncos with a lot of the moves they are making.

3. All the talk about Chiefs playoff exits, aging offense, and poor tackling defense stops this year. Chiefs are for real this year despite King Carl. Are they going all the way? I don't see that yet but they are finally making some smarter moves which could make them contenders.

4. The Broncos made a several very unique moves for them on defense this year. They didn't replace the Defensive Line. They didn't sign up anybody stupid in Free Agency. They didn't lose anybody who could not be replaced. (Trevor caught the double teams but what if they do not know where the attack is coming from?) They essentially did nothing. It was the right move. The stability comes from the fact that as a unit they remained intact. Warren is going to be more active next year and we don't have rookie cornerbacks this year. I have high hopes that Elvis will be in the building. I think given the price tag on a lot of the guys out there it wasn't a bad move.

I think Herm has a better team than Art Shell and Marty Schottenheimer. The trick is how does he handle adversity? I want to see how he adjusts to gametime pressures and when chips are on the line. On paper he's doing a lot of smart moves. Your offense lives and dies on Green. If the Broncos rediscover that sacks are good players are made to be broken.

[GreatBronco16]

So three pages of BS about KC getting Law, and not one damn link to back any of it up? All of that and it is still not in the butt yet?

[watermock]

Take it for what it's worth.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/14469484.htm

[crazyhorse]

I'm bringing you on Jerry Springer show so we can get this over with. The show about guys who just want to beat the crap out of people publicly for the hell of it show. Card table chairs optional.

1. how they are copying Denver is "THEY ARE IMPROVING THEIR DEFENSE." Keep it simple. This is a BBS not computer board design emulation.

2. I think the Chiefs are targeting the Broncos with a lot of the moves they are making.

4. The Broncos made a several very unique moves for them on defense this year. They didn't replace the Defensive Line. They didn't sign up anybody stupid in Free Agency. They essentially did nothing. It was the right move. The stability comes from the fact that as a unit they remained intact.

I think Herm has a better team than Art Shell and Marty Schottenheimer. The trick is how does he handle adversity? I want to see how he adjusts to gametime pressures and when chips are on the line. On paper he's doing a lot of smart moves. Your offense lives and dies on Green. If the Broncos rediscover that sacks are good players are made to be broken.

I dont see where 1 and 2 correlate with 4.

As for the Green comment, Larry Johnson beat the entire Bronco defense by himself.

Finally, I dont think the Donks have forgotten that sacks are good. I believe they dont care.

[crazyhorse]

So three pages of BS about KC getting Law, and not one damn link to back any of it up? All of that and it is still not in the butt yet?


Similar to some of the Lelie threads. I think you're right though. There is really noting to substantiate the rumor.

[Merlin]

Just a few comments

1. Good signing if it happens (as long as it does not screw up your cap #s)

2. The real problem with your aging players is not that they will necessarily hit the wall the way the Raiders did. The problem is injuries. They occur much more frequently and take much longer to heal (plus is harder and more detrimental to play with them), see last yr (and it should only get worse).

3. This assumption that your O won't change is inane. You lost your HC and OC, and you replaced him with a HC that is poor at O. You cannot just throw the same game book the next yr, in fact teams do not throw the same game book the week after (unless is Denver using the BL against KC).

4. Your D still has some question marks because it failed you under pressure when it mattered last yr.

5. Bob, you keep on mentioning that Herm has 2 playoff wins. Lets ignore for the moment that he is now in KC (the Jets do have a history of winning playoff games). Who did he beat? I know his last one doesn't count because it was against Marty. Who did in the first one?

[SoonerBronco]

This whole thread should be moved to the Hall of Fame Board and retitled "Snorefest 2006: A KC football retrospective..." LOL

[Odysseus]

I dont see where 1 and 2 correlate with 4.

As for the Green comment, Larry Johnson beat the entire Bronco defense by himself.

Finally, I dont think the Donks have forgotten that sacks are good. I believe they dont care.

Chiefs for years had a defense that was dominant and then it crapped. Right now the Chiefs defense is kind of like bringing Art Shell back. It's playing a pat hand. That said they are starting to introduce more things that make sense playing that hand.

Broncos probably don't care about sacks but they should.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww shoot. There goes Law. ;D

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2431290

[Bob's your Information Minister]

The Chiefs have 9 million in cap room. They can offer Law much more than the Titans.

There's also the Herm Edwards factor, and the fact that the Titans are a horrible football team.

[Needa Pass Rush]

The Chiefs have 9 million in cap room. They can offer Law much more than the Titans.

There's also the Herm Edwards factor, and the fact that the Titans are a horrible football team.

lol You sound as delusional as the photoshpped Jake looks. Is horrible worse then shiatty? ;D

Is Herm the reason all the DBs are flocking to Kan'tPass City? :spit:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

lol You sound as delusional as the photoshpped Jake looks. Is horrible worse then shiatty? ;D

Is Herm the reason all the DBs are flocking to Kan'tPass City? :spit:

We were 10-6. That is not horrible by any stretch of the imagination.

And Herm is one of the reasons Law played in New York last year.

[Florida_Bronco]

Well if they do sign him, maybe they will get the "e" back from their _efense that they lost when they got Walls and David Gibbs.

[24champ]

The Chiefs have 9 million in cap room. They can offer Law much more than the Titans.

There's also the Herm Edwards factor, and the fact that the Titans are a horrible football team.
And the chefs arent?ROFL! I think he will end up a Pat.

[ColtSteel25]

Watch out for Benard Pollard. He makes John Lynch look like a pussy. BTW do you guys think Elvis Dummervil will take place of Trevor Pryce? Expect to get ran over when you play Kansas City.

BTW,
Cutler < Croyle

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Holy balls, was that smack talk?

Who the **** is Bernard Pollard?

[azbroncfan]

BTW,
Cutler < Croyle

Another guy who has never seen either one play.

[elsid13]

Have the hamsters powering the the planet dead again??? The influx of mullets is starting to be annoying. Maybe they can tell how Gunter and Herm mind merge will create the greatest defense mind ever know to man kind.

[ROYC75]

And the chefs arent?ROFL! I think he will end up a Pat.

Somebody was wrong..........

But so was Clayton, it was a Sunday and he didn't go to the Patties after he changed his mind.

[Florida_Bronco]

Watch out for Benard Pollard. He makes John Lynch look like a pussy. BTW do you guys think Elvis Dummervil will take place of Trevor Pryce? Expect to get ran over when you play Kansas City.

BTW,
Cutler < Croyle
Smack talk has to resemble truth to be funny.