View Full Version : Green Bay Bamboozled Us.
Killericon
05-01-2006, 10:37 AM
My Favorite untold "Read between the lines" story of the draft. Green Bay and Denver had already worked out the deal for Javon....but then Denver starts seeing Chad Jackson fall. And Fall. And Fall. Suddenly, the Broncos tell them they're keeping the #37, and giving them other picks(Probably #61 and a 4th, or something or equal value) instead, since both sides know Walker's going to Denver, and now Denver wants this huge, HUGE steal. The Green Bay front office is not amused. They wanted that #37 pick(Why? I don't know, since they traded it away right away)....so they call up someone they know can take Chad away from the Broncos....The Patriots. They give them their #36 pick....One before the Broncos' #37 pick. Chad Jackson comes off the board, and Denver gives up the #37.
Those Bastards.....Although, I gotta say, it was one of the smartest moves in the draft. I hate them for it, but Kudos.....
freak6
05-01-2006, 10:40 AM
I share those sentiments, they are some sneaky bastards.
brncs_fan
05-01-2006, 10:41 AM
My Favorite untold "Read between the lines" story of the draft. Green Bay and Denver had already worked out the deal for Javon....but then Denver starts seeing Chad Jackson fall. And Fall. And Fall. Suddenly, the Broncos tell them they're keeping the #37, and giving them other picks(Probably #61 and a 4th, or something or equal value) instead, since both sides know Walker's going to Denver, and now Denver wants this huge, HUGE steal. The Green Bay front office is not amused. They wanted that #37 pick(Why? I don't know, since they traded it away right away)....so they call up someone they know can take Chad away from the Broncos....The Patriots. They give them their #36 pick....One before the Broncos' #37 pick. Chad Jackson comes off the board, and Denver gives up the #37.
Those Bastards.....Although, I gotta say, it was one of the smartest moves in the draft. I hate them for it, but Kudos.....
Interesting theory. Don't know that the Broncos would have passed on getting Walker for sake of drafting Jackson though.
Mediator12
05-01-2006, 10:41 AM
Yep. That was the exact same thing I was thinking at the time.
Killericon
05-01-2006, 10:42 AM
I remember watching it happen....I threw my remote at the TV. It was like a train wreck in slow motion.....I heard "A trade has occured" and I knew it was someone stealing CJ from us. I knew it.....and the fact that it was the Pats just compounded the injury.
Killericon
05-01-2006, 10:42 AM
Interesting theory. Don't know that the Broncos would have passed on getting Walker for sake of drafting Jackson though.
We would'nt have passed on him, just given up something else....Why do you think we did'nt trade the pick away untill we were on the clock?
PatsWin2002
05-01-2006, 10:44 AM
You hardly ever get to see "Bamboozled" in print.
spdirty
05-01-2006, 10:44 AM
You think? Chad Jackson, and Javon Walker both? Wow, that wouldve been a steal for us.
Just another reason to hate the Pack.
Killericon
05-01-2006, 10:46 AM
You think? Chad Jackson, and Javon Walker both? Wow, that wouldve been a steal for us.
Just another reason to hate the Pack.
That was why I threw my remote at the TV....I was never ecstatic about everyone projecting him at #15, but at #37, I would've been more than happy. All i can hope for now is that he turns out to be a bust.
Hotrod
05-01-2006, 10:51 AM
Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to them.
I disagree. I think it was an agreed upon trade but was contingent on different guys dropping, namely Laurence Maroney. Shanahan wanted Walker, not Jackson. If it was Santonio Holmes I'd be more inclined to agree.
DomCasual
05-01-2006, 10:54 AM
Nobody bamboozles us. We may have just been letting them think they bamboozled us, so that they would trade with us again.
Mike Shanahan is always seven or eight steps ahead of everyone else. He has the freshman high school class pretty well scouted at this point, and he has a good feel for what our 2013 draft will look like.
Taco John
05-01-2006, 10:55 AM
Some people need to pick up a dictionary before posting on this site... Starting with a sound understanding of what the word "bamboozled" means...
Paladin
05-01-2006, 10:55 AM
Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to them.
Nah. I always give them a "Plummer".
halfcreek
05-01-2006, 11:16 AM
Or the Packers "bamboozled" the Pats, letting them think that we were going to grab CJ when they knew that we were pretty much committed to JW, so the Packers get picks from the Pats as well as from us. Not sure that the FO was as in love with CJ as the talking hair heads.
-Slap-
05-01-2006, 12:30 PM
We lost out on the softest wideout since Willie Gault.
http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/willie_gault4.jpg
R8R H8R
05-01-2006, 01:00 PM
We lost out on the softest wideout since Willie Gault.
ROFL!
I never believed before the draft, and I certainly don't believe it now, that the Broncos ever was seriously targeting Jackson. I think they let everyone else believe that so they could get Cutler and Walker all along.
:~ohyah!:
DarkHorse30
05-01-2006, 01:06 PM
ROFL!
I never believed before the draft, and I certainly don't believe it now, that the Broncos ever was seriously targeting Jackson. I think they let everyone else believe that so they could get Cutler and Walker all along.
:~ohyah!:
agreed.
Nuggets4
05-01-2006, 01:39 PM
We lost out on the softest wideout since Willie Gault.
Sorry slap, but the pink font is reserved for Kenyon Martin.
Ballhawk
05-01-2006, 01:44 PM
ROFL!
I never believed before the draft, and I certainly don't believe it now, that the Broncos ever was seriously targeting Jackson. I think they let everyone else believe that so they could get Cutler and Walker all along.
:~ohyah!:
Also agree. Just because Jackson gets selected at #36 instead of #15 does not make him a better WR just a better value. Shanny wanted JW and had that deal in place 2 hours before that pick came up.
Garcia Bronco
05-01-2006, 02:14 PM
WTF would we want Chad Jackson? He's an unproven wideout.
Lidderer
05-01-2006, 02:45 PM
Some people need to pick up a dictionary before posting on this site... Starting with a sound understanding of what the word "bamboozled" means...
Given the post's contention that GB dealt with the patriots in order to subvert what, at the point, was Denver's intention of keeping their 37th pick, the use of 'bamboozled' makes perfect sense.
Ya know, while we're nitpicking.
Killericon
05-01-2006, 05:12 PM
I'm NOT saying we would've lost out on Javon in the name of Chad Jackson.....we would'nt have. I'm saying if he were availible, we would have given them something else.
SportinOne
05-01-2006, 05:24 PM
Had we not traded the early 2, we would have traded the late 2 and then maybe the 4th.
So basically:
Scheffler and Dumervil
or
Chad Jackson
We didn't get bamboozled, we got saved.
Jetmeck
05-01-2006, 05:30 PM
Sorry slap, but the pink font is reserved for Kenyon Martin.
I'd reserve the pink for my fav, Eddie Kennison
Jason in LA
05-01-2006, 05:32 PM
If this story is true, then the Packers did us a favor. With the 37th pick, why would anybody take Jackson over Walker?
GonzoLays
05-01-2006, 05:34 PM
How about Green Bay Duped Us? Or Green Bay Hoodwinked Us?
Mtbrncofn
05-01-2006, 05:47 PM
It's much more fun to actually say bamboozled. :)
27atwater
05-01-2006, 06:00 PM
who the F cares? We don't get Marshall if we land Chad...and I think Marshall will end up much better.
Killericon
05-01-2006, 06:11 PM
Had we not traded the early 2, we would have traded the late 2 and then maybe the 4th.
So basically:
Scheffler and Dumervil
or
Chad Jackson
We didn't get bamboozled, we got saved.
If we had taken CJ...then we would'nt have taken the two WRs in the Fourth. Schleffler...yes, we would have lost, but not Dumervil.
gunns
05-01-2006, 06:38 PM
I remember watching it happen....I threw my remote at the TV. It was like a train wreck in slow motion.....I heard "A trade has occured" and I knew it was someone stealing CJ from us. I knew it.....and the fact that it was the Pats just compounded the injury.
Although glad we have a proven receiver, it was Jimmy Williams I wanted with that pick and that's who got taken. Can't have em all but thrilled we don't have Jackson.
GonzoLays
05-01-2006, 06:55 PM
If we had taken CJ...then we would'nt have taken the two WRs in the Fourth. Schleffler...yes, we would have lost, but not Dumervil.
At this point Scheffler is more important to the future fortunes of the Broncos than Chad Jackson would have been. A good non-move by the Broncos.
My man Tony Scheffler is the TRUTH.
rubaiyat
05-01-2006, 08:02 PM
Had we not traded the early 2, we would have traded the late 2 and then maybe the 4th.
So basically:
Scheffler and Dumervil
or
Chad Jackson
We didn't get bamboozled, we got saved.
Wouldn't it have been a WR that we ended up drafting, not Dumervil?? Probably the 2nd WR, the special teams burner given Jackson's speed.
EDIT - Seems everyone got that already...though I suppose it possible we don't take ANY WR in the 4th freeing up one pick to be used on a TE...possible Scheffler as it seems to be agreed he was taken too early...though maybe the Broncos knew he was being targeted.
Barry Ramey
05-01-2006, 09:46 PM
If the Broncos wanted Jackson that badly, they would have taken him at #15 or traded their 2nd rounders to move up. They simply wanted Walker more, a proven commodity.
sirhcyennek81
05-01-2006, 09:51 PM
Maybe I am crazy...but Walker, or Jackson...Pro-bowl WR on one side, combine baby on the other. I would trade a 37 every time for Walker.
:Broncos:
hersay, I really do not think anyone in Wisconsin is smart enough to come up with this scenario.
Billy Clyde Puckett
05-01-2006, 11:02 PM
hersay, I really do not think anyone in Wisconsin is smart enough to come up with this scenario.
You are right - Everyone in Wisoconsin is related to my wife so I know they "ain't too smart" ;D
(I'm dead if she ever logs on here.)