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Kaylore
04-30-2006, 02:27 AM
This is an awesome read:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9393386

The link covers what he thinks of the other three.

JAY CUTLER

The most overrated player in the draft? That's pretty funny.

I was very surprised when I watched Cutler on film for a couple of reasons. I didn't realize how good an athlete he is. He's big, very strong, and has an NFL body, especially for a quarterback.

He plays big and he plays strong. He can move around much better than I thought. He ran some option, ran the football well. He can stand in, and deliver the ball downfield with accuracy and power even when getting hit. His arm strength is exceptional -- tremendous. And what I like so much about his arm strength is that on short passes he gets the ball to his targets quick so they have a chance to run with it. It's not a high-effort throw. He doesn't have to work hard to get the ball somewhere with speed. It's natural.

I've read and heard from some NFL coaches that he tries to use his arm too much -- maybe tries to throw the ball hard when he shouldn't. I didn't notice that, but I did see him try to stick the ball into some tough spots. But I would look at that as a plus. At least a coach has the ability to tell a Jay Cutler to take something off his passes if he needs to.

Cutler probably played in an environment that was most NFL-like for a quarterback. I watched about five Vanderbilt games, and he got hit a lot. He's used to making decisions and throwing from a position that is more like what he'll see in the NFL.

There were a bunch of games that Vanderbilt would not have had a chance to win or stay close if he were not the quarterback. You could say that about Leinart and Young, but I'm not sure USC or Texas would have lost one or two games if their backup quarterbacks were in there. I don't know anything about the backup quarterback at Vanderbilt, but I know Cutler was always the best player on the field in their games.

THE SAFE PICK

What's interesting about these three quarterbacks is that we're dealing with three really different styles. For example, Vince Young is certainly capable of being a very good NFL quarterback … but it's a little unique and a little different. As an offensive coach, you're going to put in plays that you never put in before.

http://images.nfl.com/photos/img9393347.jpg

I've heard it said that Cutler is the riskiest pick of the three because his name is not as big. I think it's actually the complete opposite.

By NFL standards, the safest pick of the three is Cutler. He's big and strong, has enough mobility and can make all the throws. Whether it's the West Coast, East Coast -- whatever offense he gets drafted into, he's going to be able to adapt to it. I'm not sure you can say that about the other two. There are offenses in the NFL that are not made for Matt Leinart, because they love to throw the ball downfield. That's not what he is going to be great at.

People compare Leinart to Tom Brady, and they like to talk about Brady's "intangibles" and leadership qualities, etc. But in my eyes, the quality that has made Tom Brady great is that he can really, really throw the football well. It's amazing how much smarter you can look as a quarterback if you can throw the ball that well. I don't mind people praising his other qualities, but his ability to "drive" the football, throw tight spirals and give his receivers a chance to run with the football is really the key.

For those who are tired of the board excited over Cuttler, you can all stick it!

-Slap-
04-30-2006, 02:31 AM
Simms, Young, Jaws, and just about every other former QB seem to like Jay more than VY or Leinart.

You know what I love about Jay Cutler?

The return of the whole playbook. I can't wait.

Bronco LB 59
04-30-2006, 02:34 AM
You know what I love about Jay Cutler?

The return of the whole playbook. I can't wait.

It is also going to be nice to attend Broncos games early just to watch Cutler throw bullets in warmups. I miss those days:)

Kaylore
04-30-2006, 02:36 AM
Simms, Young, Jaws, and just about every other former QB seem to like Jay more than VY or Leinart.

You know what I love about Jay Cutler?

The return of the whole playbook. I can't wait.
Well I can. I feel your anticipation, but I want to do this right and give him time to really digest things.

I've probably watched every video of him there is tonight and his foot work is rather poor but that's a result of college feet. His line sucked so he played in the shot gun a lot and ran with the ball frequently. When you don't have a line to allow you to drop back and there is no point in setting an anchor point for your tackle because he's a turnstyle, you just have to work with what you got.

I'm curious how his arm is going to improve when he has time to plant properly. ;D

watermock
04-30-2006, 02:37 AM
He plays big and he plays strong. He can move around much better than I thought. He ran some option, ran the football well. He can stand in, and deliver the ball downfield with accuracy and power even when getting hit. His arm strength is exceptional -- tremendous

Who does that sound like?

watermock
04-30-2006, 02:42 AM
I'm stoked... we have dinger and Terelll and Shanny to coach him and Jake will be ready to excell.

It's great. I never could of dreamed we would land this kid. Our Offence is going to light up like a torch.

Clockwork Orange
04-30-2006, 02:45 AM
Well I can. I feel your anticipation, but I want to do this right and give him time to really digest things.

I've probably watched every video of him there is tonight and his foot work is rather poor but that's a result of college feet. His line sucked so he played in the shot gun a lot and ran with the ball frequently. When you don't have a line to allow you to drop back and there is no point in setting an anchor point for your tackle because he's a turnstyle, you just have to work with what you got.

I'm curious how his arm is going to improve when he has time to plant properly. ;D

I like the fact that he's been thrown to the wolves already. He played on a weak sister team in loaded conference. He had minimal talent around him and yet he still got the most out of his abilities (SEC offensive player of the year). It's not going to completely prepare him for the speed of the NFL game, but he's certainly had a small sample of it.

While his footwork will need to be corrected, he'd better not get too cozy with the idea of setting up camp in the pocket. Last time I checked the Broncos O-line was pretty average in the pass blocking department and part of the reason why Cutler is such a good fit for this offense is his athleticism and mobility.

I'm officially more excited for preseason games than I've ever been in my life.

Dudeskey
04-30-2006, 02:46 AM
I have to admit I'm pretty excited about the future of the team. Not just because they drafted Cutler, but they now have a legit successor to #80...™

Ballhawk
04-30-2006, 02:49 AM
I have to admit I'm pretty excited about the future of the team. Not just because they drafted Cutler, but they now have a legit successor to #80...™

David Terrell :D

Kaylore
04-30-2006, 02:52 AM
I like the fact that he's been thrown to the wolves already. He played on a weak sister team in loaded conference. He had minimal talent around him and yet he still got the most out of his abilities (SEC offensive player of the year). It's not going to completely prepare him for the speed of the NFL game, but he's certainly had a small sample of it.

While his footwork will need to be corrected, he'd better not get too cozy with the idea of setting up camp in the pocket. Last time I checked the Broncos O-line was pretty average in the pass blocking department and part of the reason why Cutler is such a good fit for this offense is his athleticism and mobility.

I'm officially more excited for preseason games than I've ever been in my life. What's more is he has built character and shown that despite his team sucking monkey nuts his entire time there, he didn't complain. He never whined that his team sucked or played half-assed knowing it didn't matter. That builds fourth quarter kind of toughness. It takes a lot of character to keep bringing it even when you know the other guys are faster, stronger, and probably going to win.

I remember Leinert was a total douche bag after he lost the championship. A little humility and die-hard mentality isn't bad. You want a guy who is not only willing, but used to taking a team on his back. I also think he'll appreciate playing here more.

-Slap-
04-30-2006, 03:11 AM
What's more is he has built character and shown that despite his team sucking monkey nuts his entire time there, he didn't complain. He never whined that his team sucked or played half-assed knowing it didn't matter. That builds fourth quarter kind of toughness. It takes a lot of character to keep bringing it even when you know the other guys are faster, stronger, and probably going to win.

I remember Leinert was a total douche bag after he lost the championship. A little humility and die-hard mentality isn't bad. You want a guy who is not only willing, but used to taking a team on his back. I also think he'll appreciate playing here more.
In fact, Suzy Kolber tried to get him to criticize his teammates with some leading questions during their brief interview and he wasn't having any of it.

Kaylore
04-30-2006, 03:14 AM
In fact, Suzy Kolber tried to get him to criticize his teammates with some leading questions during their brief interview and he wasn't having any of it.
Why that sneaky little lesbian.

epicSocialism4tw
04-30-2006, 03:30 AM
If Jay Cutler shows that type of class and grit that Kaylore illustrated, he will earn some diehard fans in his time with Denver.

If he performs and acts the part, Bronco fans will place him on a pedestal only to later buy furniture and autos from him willingly. ;D

Billy Clyde Puckett
04-30-2006, 08:54 AM
I am always happy to see athletes with class come to town.

elsid13
04-30-2006, 09:02 AM
Why that sneaky little lesbian.


Suzy into girls, darn.... that hot

Kaylore
04-30-2006, 11:42 AM
Suzy into girls, darn.... that hot
Yeah she's looking pretty cute lately.

Rocket 7
04-30-2006, 11:57 AM
Suzy into girls, darn.... that hot
Namath hit on the wrong girl

DomCasual
04-30-2006, 01:39 PM
You know what I love about Jay Cutler?

The return of the whole playbook. I can't wait.
I can't think of a way to summarize my whole feeling about it in shorter space. Well said. Think about how much that limits an offense. We take a big chunk of the playbook off the table each game because we don't have the right people to run the plays. The same thing happened with Griese. From the minute the game starts, the defense has the advantage of eliminating some of the guesswork of the gameplan. This is even more the case with an imaginative offensive mind calling the plays.

I like Plummer, and I always have. I think he's an easy guy to pull for. But even his biggest apologists have to admit that his game has certain natural limitations.

CBF1
04-30-2006, 02:12 PM
Why that sneaky little lesbian.
I'd hit it.... I am a lesbian you know :)

Orange_Beard
04-30-2006, 02:16 PM
It's wait and see time.

How does this sound:

"Jay Culter Toyota & Nissian"

Kaylore
04-30-2006, 02:21 PM
I'd hit it.... I am a lesbian you know :)
I'd hit it, and I'm a straight male.

Ratboy
04-30-2006, 02:24 PM
6 in 06'

watermock
04-30-2006, 02:34 PM
I like girls too Suzy, may I join in the fun? Ha!

I only saw a bit of Cutlery (he's gonna slice up defenses), but I immediately thought Tom Brady just the way he moved. Evidently, so does Sims. Jaws absolutely loves him, and he's no dummy. We stole the Cutlery.

Cito Pelon
04-30-2006, 02:38 PM
The kid's going to have to be very mentally-tough, 'cause he's going to be called every name in the book at Invesco. Only was on the team 2 minutes and got guano'd mightily.

Kaylore
04-30-2006, 09:33 PM
The kid's going to have to be very mentally-tough, 'cause he's going to be called every name in the book at Invesco. Only was on the team 2 minutes and got guano'd mightily.
Are you kidding me? The people here are going to be very forgiving. I'd say half the fan base never bought into Plummer. Cutler might as well be John Elway right now. If he tries, the fans will support him. Now if he sucks after year four, then your scenario will unfold.

I think after winning only eleven games during college and still growing to this level he has shown he has more than enough mental toughness to succeed here.

epicSocialism4tw
04-30-2006, 09:54 PM
Are you kidding me? The people here are going to be very forgiving. I'd say half the fan base never bought into Plummer. Cutler might as well be John Elway right now. If he tries, the fans will support him. Now if he sucks after year four, then your scenario will unfold.

I think after winning only eleven games during college and still growing to this level he has shown he has more than enough mental toughness to succeed here.

Kaylore, I'll be looking forward to your camp observations if that's a possibility for you this year. :)

Kaylore
04-30-2006, 10:00 PM
Kaylore, I'll be looking forward to your camp observations if that's a possibility for you this year. :) Actually this recent draft has me leaning toward taking my two week vaction during the start of training camp so that I'd be able to give reports for both practices everyday. I know what it's like to live out of state (and out of country for that matter) for an extended period of time. This draft would have me going gaga over to expect.

So short answer is yes, I'm doing it but it's going to be more involved this time. I'll have a digital camera and will be able to upload pictures immediately. It's going to be fun. :D

Ratboy
04-30-2006, 10:02 PM
I hope i don't miss much Broncos news when i'm at basic training/tech school.

GoHAM
04-30-2006, 10:04 PM
I'd hit it.... I am a lesbian you know :)

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who will concur with you (Bob you don't have to answer we already know). I too am a lesbian trapped in a man's body!

Mile High Shack
04-30-2006, 10:20 PM
I'm excited to see what Jake can do with 2 good receivers in 2006

but I'm pretty freakin' stoked to see what Cutler can do in 2007, I have to admit it, I'm pretty happy about getting this kid.

Rohirrim
04-30-2006, 10:26 PM
I've always respected Phil Simm's opinion.

Broncoman13
04-30-2006, 10:42 PM
In fact, Suzy Kolber tried to get him to criticize his teammates with some leading questions during their brief interview and he wasn't having any of it.


I know the interview you are referring to and I thought he did a great job handling those questions. The dude just seems like a high character kid. I'm glad we have him over the prima-donna Leinart! VY or Croyle would have been great as well, but I think Cutler is going to fit with what we're doing.

Broncojef
04-30-2006, 10:52 PM
I haven't felt comfortable in a 4th quarter comeback since John left. I think that might all change with Cutler. Just to see another game winning drive with a minute or so left, God would that be special. I still remember in the old mile high yelling for the defense to just get us the ball one more time and guys like Schottenheimer swetting on the sidelines cause John was warming up it was third down and there was still a minute on the clock. Also miss the quiet confidence everyone in the stands had that if John touched the ball in the 4th the other team was dead. You could feel the tension as everyone knew what was about to happen...again. God do I miss those days!!!

Jason in LA
04-30-2006, 10:59 PM
You know what I love about Jay Cutler?

The return of the whole playbook. I can't wait.

Totally agreed. With Griese they had to junk a good portion of the playbook. I'd say they tried to run the entire playbook with Plummer in '04, but found that in '05 it was better to give him the version that Bubby Brister had. The dumbed down version. Hopefully Cutler is a smart QB that doesn't have to be limited by the coaches. I'd love this guy to run the O like Elway did.

Kaylore
05-01-2006, 02:19 AM
Totally agreed. With Griese they had to junk a good portion of the playbook. I'd say they tried to run the entire playbook with Plummer in '04, but found that in '05 it was better to give him the version that Bubby Brister had. The dumbed down version. Hopefully Cutler is a smart QB that doesn't have to be limited by the coaches. I'd love this guy to run the O like Elway did. That's the biggest reason I don't think they wanted Leinert. He doesn't have the arm to make most of the big throws which limits what plays you can call.