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glennst
04-27-2006, 08:10 PM
Here is an analysis of the Broncos, Chiefs matchups over the years.
Since the NFL-AFL merger in 1970, the Broncos have beat the Chiefs 10 times more than the Chiefs have beaten the Broncos (not including the playoff win). In that 36 year span, both teams split the wins in 20 different years (05, 04, 03, 01, 97, 96, 94, 93, 92, 90, 88, 86, 84, 83, 81, 79, 75, 74, 73, 70).
Listed below are years in which one team swept the other. All other years not listed were split on home field except 1994 and 1974, when both teams won on the road.
Elway-Present (1983-2005)
2002 Denver
2000 KC
1999 KC
1998 Denver
1995 KC
1991 Denver
1989 Denver
1987 Denver
1985 Denver
34 Denver 23 KC
--------------------------------------------Elway-Present: 34 Denver 23 KC
Pre-Elway NFL (1970-1982)
1982 KC* (1 win sweep)
1980 KC
1978 Denver
1977 Denver
1976 Denver
1972 KC
1971 KC
13 Denver 14 KC
--------------------------------------------NFL 1970-Present: 47 Denver 37 KC
Pre-NFL Merger (1963-1969)
1969 KC (Super Bowl)
1968 KC
1967 KC
1966 KC
1965 KC
1963 KC
1 Denver 13 KC
--------------------------------------------All Time: 48 Denver 50 KC
Pre-KC (1960-1962)
1962 Dallas
1961 Dallas
1960 Dallas
0 Denver 6 Dallas
--------------------------------------------- All Time: 48 Denver 56 KC/Dallas
Other:
1982 Only one game played - KC won
1997 Denver won in KC in Divisional Playoffs.
1994 Road Win/Home Loss Split (Montana vs Elway MNF)
1974 Road Win/Home Loss Split
Tombstone RJ
04-27-2006, 08:18 PM
Cool, thanks!
Bob's your Information Minister
04-27-2006, 08:30 PM
Chiefs are 51-41 against the Broncos. You have it backwards my friend.
glennst
04-27-2006, 08:35 PM
Chiefs are 51-41 against the Broncos. You have it backwards my friend.
Not since the NFL merger in 1970. If you go back to 1960 and include the Dallas Texans wins, it is 48 Denver 56 Chiefs/Texans.
Bob's your Information Minister
04-27-2006, 08:35 PM
Not since the NFL merger in 1970.
Convenient, why does that matter? You're just leaving out the era where we dominated the Broncos because it makes it look better.
Tombstone RJ
04-27-2006, 08:38 PM
Convenient, why does that matter?
Because you suck.
SportinOne
04-27-2006, 08:44 PM
usually the score comes after the team name and not the other way around..
like Clippers 115 Nuggets 97, not 115 Clippers 97 Nuggets.
to each their own i guess.
glennst
04-27-2006, 08:45 PM
Convenient, why does that matter? You're just leaving out the era where we dominated the Broncos because it makes it look better.
I included both in my analysis. I did not leave anything out.
However, I am more interested in the Broncos wins that ocurred in my lifetime. Basically the Chiefs haven't dominated the Broncos since 1969 (pre-NFL days).
1970-2005 Broncos
1960-1969 Chiefs
Jason in LA
04-27-2006, 08:58 PM
As much as I'd like to say that the Broncos are ahead of the Chiefs, I can't. You can't just go back to one point in time. You can't start counting at the merger. As of right now, the Chiefs have the head-to-head advantage, because the Broncos sucked ass in the '60s, when the Chiefs were good.
Al Davis tries this very same thing. When he was saying the Raiders had the best winning percentage in all of sports, he was counting from the time when he started to coach the team. He left off their first few years, when they were horrible.
I have called out Raider fan on that many times. If I hold the Raiders to that, then I have to hold the Broncos to that.
But we will catch the Chiefs, and the Raiders.
The Chiefs can have the head-to-head. We've got them big time in playoff wins, and we got them in Super Bowls.
Bob's your Information Minister
04-27-2006, 09:03 PM
1970-2005 Broncos
This is also a hoot. In the last 15 years the series is split almost 50/50.
glennst
04-27-2006, 09:10 PM
As much as I'd like to say that the Broncos are ahead of the Chiefs, I can't. You can't just go back to one point in time. You can't start counting at the merger. As of right now, the Chiefs have the head-to-head advantage, because the Broncos sucked ass in the '60s, when the Chiefs were good.
Al Davis tries this very same thing. When he was saying the Raiders had the best winning percentage in all of sports, he was counting from the time when he started to coach the team. He left off their first few years, when they were horrible.
I have called out Raider fan on that many times. If I hold the Raiders to that, then I have to hold the Broncos to that.
But we will catch the Chiefs, and the Raiders.
The Chiefs can have the head-to-head. We've got them big time in playoff wins, and we got them in Super Bowls.
I am not saying that the Broncos are ahead of the Chiefs. I am only saying we have been gaining on the Chiefs since 1970. In the AFL years, the Chiefs gained a 19 game advantage over us, but we have been catching up to them in the past 30 years.
Florida_Bronco
04-27-2006, 09:11 PM
As much as I'd like to say that the Broncos are ahead of the Chiefs, I can't. You can't just go back to one point in time. You can't start counting at the merger. As of right now, the Chiefs have the head-to-head advantage, because the Broncos sucked ass in the '60s, when the Chiefs were good.
Al Davis tries this very same thing. When he was saying the Raiders had the best winning percentage in all of sports, he was counting from the time when he started to coach the team. He left off their first few years, when they were horrible.
I have called out Raider fan on that many times. If I hold the Raiders to that, then I have to hold the Broncos to that.
But we will catch the Chiefs, and the Raiders.
The Chiefs can have the head-to-head. We've got them big time in playoff wins, and we got them in Super Bowls.
The voice of reason here on the OrangeMane :thumbsup:
glennst
04-27-2006, 09:15 PM
This is also a hoot. In the last 15 years the series is split almost 50/50.
NFL 1970-Present (regular season):
Denver 47
KC 37
47-37 = 10
Broncos have a 10 game advantage since 1970.
Yes, they usually split wins, but Denver has been winning in Arrowhead more than the Chiefs have been winning in Denver since 1970.
Bob's your Information Minister
04-27-2006, 09:23 PM
NFL 1970-Present (regular season):
Denver 47
KC 37
47-37 = 10
Broncos have a 10 game advantage since 1970.
Yes, they usually split wins, but Denver has been winning in Arrowhead more than the Chiefs have been winning in Denver since 1970.
The only reason for that is our piss-poor decade of the 1980s.
glennst
04-27-2006, 09:25 PM
The only reason for that is our piss-poor decade of the 1980s.
Coincidentally, those were also the Elway years.
Jason in LA
04-27-2006, 09:27 PM
I am not saying that the Broncos are ahead of the Chiefs. I am only saying we have been gaining on the Chiefs since 1970. In the AFL years, the Chiefs gained a 19 game advantage over us, but we have been catching up to them in the past 30 years.
I get what you are saying, and I want to jump on board with you on it. But it just doesn't work like that.
If we can have it like that, then we can just go on and say the Chiefs haven't won a title before...hey, wait a minute. After giving this some very serious thought, I'm on board.
Ha, the Chiefs have never won a title. ;D
Jason in LA
04-27-2006, 09:30 PM
The voice of reason here on the OrangeMane :thumbsup:
Thanks, I try.
Old Dude
04-27-2006, 09:39 PM
The Chiefs had some amazingly talented teams back in the late 60's & early 70's. If I were I Chiefs fan, I'd be bitterly disappointed to have come out of that with only one Super Bowl win.
Pendejo
04-27-2006, 09:39 PM
I get what you are saying, and I want to jump on board with you on it. But it just doesn't work like that.
If we can have it like that, then we can just go on and say the Chiefs haven't won a title before...hey, wait a minute. After giving this some very serious thought, I'm on board.
Ha, the Chiefs have never won a title. ;D
Of course they have...it was just decades ago.
I get where this poster is coming from. The Donks were doormats for years...it was before my time. But when they finally got good...they stayed that way for the most part ever since.
They've been to six friggin' superbowls...5 of them with the best quarterback in NFL history...a la...The Great John Elway under center.
The fact is they lost a lot of games early on...but they've been in the conversation more often than not over the past thirty years...and I think it's fair to say that the Chiefs have been too...They just can't win in the playoff months...They do their winning in March and April, and August. Although they're tough as nails in Arrowhead...in December.
I do admit that I still have a flannel shirt that I was wearing the last time the Chiefs actually won a playoff game. Alice in Chains still rules.
24champ
04-27-2006, 10:11 PM
2 Super Bowl trophies is better than one rusted trophy.
colemurch1
04-27-2006, 10:14 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/SITerrellDavis1998.jpg/230px-SITerrellDavis1998.jpg
You guys wont barely get to .500 this year any way why dont we talk about that. I think trent Green turns 37 and Kessison turns 33 also Surtian is breaking down as well. I almost forgot youre o-line avrages like 31 years of age chief. Enough of the past were are you guys going now?
:wave:
BYE BYE
P.S. I hope you saved this issue of SI its a good one.
Tombstone RJ
04-27-2006, 10:15 PM
As much as I'd like to say that the Broncos are ahead of the Chiefs, I can't. You can't just go back to one point in time. You can't start counting at the merger. As of right now, the Chiefs have the head-to-head advantage, because the Broncos sucked ass in the '60s, when the Chiefs were good.
Al Davis tries this very same thing. When he was saying the Raiders had the best winning percentage in all of sports, he was counting from the time when he started to coach the team. He left off their first few years, when they were horrible.
I have called out Raider fan on that many times. If I hold the Raiders to that, then I have to hold the Broncos to that.
But we will catch the Chiefs, and the Raiders.
The Chiefs can have the head-to-head. We've got them big time in playoff wins, and we got them in Super Bowls.
I especially respect the chefs winning percentage against the Broncos when they weren't even the chefs, or in KC (can you feel the sarcasm).
That wasn't the chefs. That was the Dallas Texans. Different town, different set of circumstances.
Rausch
04-27-2006, 10:25 PM
As much as I'd like to say that the Broncos are ahead of the Chiefs, I can't. You can't just go back to one point in time. You can't start counting at the merger. As of right now, the Chiefs have the head-to-head advantage, because the Broncos sucked ass in the '60s, when the Chiefs were good.
As much as I'd love to pretend the Chiefs are ahead the Donks have won two rings in the last 10 years.
I wasn't alive in 60. Or even 70.
I really don't give a fat frog's ass what happened then.
Bob's your Information Minister
04-27-2006, 10:34 PM
You guys wont barely get to .500 this year any way why dont we talk about that. I think trent Green turns 37 and Kessison turns 33 also Surtian is breaking down as well. I almost forgot youre o-line avrages like 31 years of age chief.
Did you copy this post from last year?
Jason in LA
04-27-2006, 10:35 PM
Were the Chiefs over .500? I seemed to have forgotten. I was only following playoff teams. ;D
Tom A Hawk
04-28-2006, 06:52 AM
Well, those are interesting stats and a pretty good analysis. However, a lot of work to end up simply saying that when these two teams get together, a game is on. Record pretty much is 50-50 no matter how you spin it.