Its Either Trade Down or SanTonio Holmes

[wolf754life]

The Broncos Brain Trust prefers Ohio State receiver Santonio Holmes over Jackson. The Broncos will use the 15th pick on a player who can help sooner than later and Holmes is clearly the more polished route runner and more proven commodity at this point.

If Holmes is gone by 15 the Broncos will first entertain trade-down offers, then, if they can't find an appropriate suitor, will make a tough decision between Minnesota running back Laurence Maroney and NC State's Lawson. As a side note, one of the reasons the Broncos value Maroney over Memphis' DeAngelo Williams is because of Maroney's experience in a similar zone-blocking offensive scheme at Minnesota.

So there you have it, in order of preference at 15 for the broncos

SanTonio Holmes WR
Laurence Maroney RB
Manny Lawson OLB/DE

I am hoping for a trade down, Maroney will be there in the mid to late 20's!

[Gcver2ver3]

How do you know this?

[ludo21]

right.................the Broncos "leaked" Holmes was their choice, Ha!

Everything in Dove valley is still behind tightly sealed doors, and since when does a rookie have a major impact right away?? (anyone but moss....)

[ro_50]

The Broncos Brain Trust prefers Ohio State receiver Santonio Holmes over Jackson. The Broncos will use the 15th pick on a player who can help sooner than later and Holmes is clearly the more polished route runner and more proven commodity at this point.

If Holmes is gone by 15 the Broncos will first entertain trade-down offers, then, if they can't find an appropriate suitor, will make a tough decision between Minnesota running back Laurence Maroney and NC State's Lawson. As a side note, one of the reasons the Broncos value Maroney over Memphis' DeAngelo Williams is because of Maroney's experience in a similar zone-blocking offensive scheme at Minnesota.

So there you have it, in order of preference at 15 for the broncos

SanTonio Holmes WR
Laurence Maroney RB
Manny Lawson OLB/DE

I am hoping for a trade down, Maroney will be there in the mid to late 20's!

Do you have a link for this?

[sirhcyennek81]

Broncos never pick the obvious player...ever.

:Broncos:

[Atlas]

Broncos never pick the obvious player...ever.

:Broncos:

Actually Ashley Lelie was the obvious player when they selected him. They needed a WR and he was slotted to go 13-15 and slid to 20 when Denver grabbed him.

[Rohirrim]

Isn't there a draft this year? Man, I feel like I'm walking backwards. Ever have that dream where you're walking down a hall and it just keeps stretching out, getting longer and longer?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

How do you know this?

Well Clayton said the same thing last night, though he didn't include Maroney as an option. So I'm guessing this is what Kiper said in his chat today.

[ro_50]

Those three names, supposedly, Denver could be looking at w/ the pick, if it is true, I would want Lawson out of those three.

[Rascal]

Just to throw this out there but I wouldn't be suprised to see either Lienart or Cutler fall all the way to 13. Apparently the Titans are sold on Young.

[Play2win]

How do you know this?
Little voices inside his head ???

[Gcver2ver3]

Those three names, supposedly, Denver could be looking at w/ the pick, if it is true, I would want Lawson out of those three.


i was thinking the same thing.....

[Gcver2ver3]

Little voices inside his head ???


i hope those voices stay little....because i don't like that plan at all

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Just to throw this out there but I wouldn't be suprised to see either Lienart or Cutler fall all the way to 13. Apparently the Titans are sold on Young.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

TEAM LEINART BRACING FOR SLIDE?

At a time when former USC tailback Reggie Bush is dealing with an unwelcome distraction that could disrupt his plan to be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, his teammate who could have been the first pick in 2004 could now be facing a slide conjuring memories of the Aaron Rodgers plunge in 2005.

A source close to the Leinart camp tells us that Matt's handlers have accepted the reality that the Titans won't be drafting their guy at No. 3, barring a dramatic reversal of the current intention to acquire Texas quarterback Vince Young. Per the source, new Leinart agent Tom Condon has attempted to get some kind of an assurance from each of the teams drafting in the top five -- but has gotten nothing.

At No. 4, the Jets are not expected to draft a quarterback. Word is that they are looking to land Alabama's Brodie Croyle later in the day.

At No. 5, the Packers can't afford to spend another first-rounder on a guy who'll do nothing for them in 2006, especially since Lord Favre is coming back for one more year.

At No. 6, the 49ers have their quarterback in Alex Smith.

We'd initially presumed that the Raiders would take Leinart at No. 7, but we're now hearing from multiple sources that they won't.

The Bills won't touch Leinart at No. 8, unless G.M. Marv Levy is even nuttier than we currently believe.

At No. 9, there's no way the Lions pounce on Leinart.

Then we come to the Cardinals at No. 10. Will Denny Green be able to resist drafting a guy who falls into his lap, just like Randy Moss did eight years ago? We've got the Cardinals taking offensive tackle Winston Justice, given the importance of beefing up the group of guys who are going to be charged with keeping those big-money skill-position players alive.

At No. 11, quarterback is one of the few positions that the Rams have covered.

At No. 12, we can't see the Browns taking Leinart.

Then come the Ravens at No. 13. In our current mock draft, we've got them taking Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler. Though we're feeling a little wishy-washy about whether Brian the Brain will stake his future on another first-round signal-caller, it might be hard for the supposed offensive guru to not take Leinart, if he falls into the team's lap.

And we think that the lowest Leinart would go, if he gets past Baltimore, is Minnesota at No. 17.

So the 2004 Heisman winner won't fall as dramatically as Rodgers did a year ago, when the Jeff Tedford prodigy plunged from potentially being the No. 1 pick all the way to No. 24. But given that Leinart was the presumptive No. 1 choice in 2005, and that he most likely would have been taken by the 49ers with the first pick, the possibility of sliding to No. 10 or lower translates into millions and millions of dollars of money that will never come back.

[Goobzilla]

Just to throw this out there but I wouldn't be suprised to see either Lienart or Cutler fall all the way to 13. Apparently the Titans are sold on Young.

Titans GM loves Young, Fisher and Chow (obviously) want Leinart. GM is going to win out.

[Orange_Beard]

The Broncos will use the 15th pick on a player who can help sooner than later and Holmes is clearly the more polished route runner and more proven commodity at this point.

If we are looking for a player to help sooner, seems we would trade up, not down.

[Nuggets4]

How do you know this?

Because it's something I posted earlier today. (http://72.22.74.110/BB/showthread.php?t=41239&page=2) It's from Todd McShay's article today.

[wolf754life]

sorry, it was an insider link from espn. So I didn't post the link, should have mentioned todd mcshay, my bad

[Rascal]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

TEAM LEINART BRACING FOR SLIDE?

At a time when former USC tailback Reggie Bush is dealing with an unwelcome distraction that could disrupt his plan to be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, his teammate who could have been the first pick in 2004 could now be facing a slide conjuring memories of the Aaron Rodgers plunge in 2005.

A source close to the Leinart camp tells us that Matt's handlers have accepted the reality that the Titans won't be drafting their guy at No. 3, barring a dramatic reversal of the current intention to acquire Texas quarterback Vince Young. Per the source, new Leinart agent Tom Condon has attempted to get some kind of an assurance from each of the teams drafting in the top five -- but has gotten nothing.

At No. 4, the Jets are not expected to draft a quarterback. Word is that they are looking to land Alabama's Brodie Croyle later in the day.

At No. 5, the Packers can't afford to spend another first-rounder on a guy who'll do nothing for them in 2006, especially since Lord Favre is coming back for one more year.

At No. 6, the 49ers have their quarterback in Alex Smith.

We'd initially presumed that the Raiders would take Leinart at No. 7, but we're now hearing from multiple sources that they won't.

The Bills won't touch Leinart at No. 8, unless G.M. Marv Levy is even nuttier than we currently believe.

At No. 9, there's no way the Lions pounce on Leinart.

Then we come to the Cardinals at No. 10. Will Denny Green be able to resist drafting a guy who falls into his lap, just like Randy Moss did eight years ago? We've got the Cardinals taking offensive tackle Winston Justice, given the importance of beefing up the group of guys who are going to be charged with keeping those big-money skill-position players alive.

At No. 11, quarterback is one of the few positions that the Rams have covered.

At No. 12, we can't see the Browns taking Leinart.

Then come the Ravens at No. 13. In our current mock draft, we've got them taking Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler. Though we're feeling a little wishy-washy about whether Brian the Brain will stake his future on another first-round signal-caller, it might be hard for the supposed offensive guru to not take Leinart, if he falls into the team's lap.

And we think that the lowest Leinart would go, if he gets past Baltimore, is Minnesota at No. 17.

So the 2004 Heisman winner won't fall as dramatically as Rodgers did a year ago, when the Jeff Tedford prodigy plunged from potentially being the No. 1 pick all the way to No. 24. But given that Leinart was the presumptive No. 1 choice in 2005, and that he most likely would have been taken by the 49ers with the first pick, the possibility of sliding to No. 10 or lower translates into millions and millions of dollars of money that will never come back.

If he slides to 15 Shanny has to pick him.

Why would the Lions pass? If the Raiders are smart they will take him but that's assuming a lot.

Lienart at the Ravens, or even worse McNair, is not something I want to see. We can barely beat them with Boller at QB and giving us the ball 4 times.

[Requiem]

Jesus, someone pick Santonio Holmes. I mean, I like him but he's not what we need a receiver at all.

[Ballhawk]

If he slides to 15 Shanny has to pick him.

Why would the Lions pass? If the Raiders are smart they will take him but that's assuming a lot.

Lienart at the Ravens, or even worse McNair, is not something I want to see. We can barely beat them with Boller at QB and giving us the ball 4 times.

I prefer Cutler

[Crushaholic]

Isn't there a draft this year? Man, I feel like I'm walking backwards. Ever have that dream where you're walking down a hall and it just keeps stretching out, getting longer and longer?

You have that same feeling? This whole month has been the longest I've experienced in a while...

3 MORE DAYS!

[Drek]

We won't take Maroney. We might take Holmes, but I personally think we'll take Lawson over Holmes as well. Ultimately, the FO is going to be hoping for a slider or a real good trade down offer though, if you ask me.

[Rohirrim]

We'll take Drew. He's nice and short.

[BroncoMan4ever]

Just to throw this out there but I wouldn't be suprised to see either Lienart or Cutler fall all the way to 13. Apparently the Titans are sold on Young.

fisher and the coaching staff want leinart. the front office wants young

leinart goes to the titans

young goes to oakland

cutler goes to arizona

[sirhcyennek81]

Actually Ashley Lelie was the obvious player when they selected him. They needed a WR and he was slotted to go 13-15 and slid to 20 when Denver grabbed him.


The expected player was Ed Reed. Lelie was the consolation prize.

:Broncos:

[Atlas]

The expected player was Ed Reed. Lelie was the consolation prize.

:Broncos:

Reed was selected after the Broncos picked. Lelie was the right choice at the time. Obviously Reed is the better player but unlike years since Shanny took the player the experts thought he should take.

[Requiem]

right.................the Broncos "leaked" Holmes was their choice, Ha!

Everything in Dove valley is still behind tightly sealed doors, and since when does a rookie have a major impact right away?? (anyone but moss....)

If you're talking about any rookie, I can name many. I can name several from our roster drafted last year. As for Wide Outs, those are few and far between.

[DrFate]

fisher and the coaching staff want leinart. the front office wants young

The owner normally wins that battle - Young goes to the Titans

We really need to pass on Holmes.

[sirhcyennek81]

Reed was selected after the Broncos picked. Lelie was the right choice at the time. Obviously Reed is the better player but unlike years since Shanny took the player the experts thought he should take.


In draft mags, ect. Reed was supposed to go to the Broncos. It did not work out that way. Lelie has been a solid pick, tho.

:Broncos:

[Play2win]

You have that same feeling? This whole month has been the longest I've experienced in a while...

3 MORE DAYS!
Its still 3 Whole Freaking DAYS?!?

Man, you didn't have to tell me THAT!!! ;D

[ludo21]

If you're talking about any rookie, I can name many. I can name several from our roster drafted last year. As for Wide Outs, those are few and far between.


Yeah i meant WR. Especially in our O too, that playbook takes a year to learn at least.

[Requiem]

The learning curve and adjustments college receivers have to make going to the pros is huge, which is why many don't make huge impacts right away. The three-year curve is usually ideal, and Lelie met that. (Just to state a fact.) I expect it'll take whoever we draft the same, but I'd hope for it to be faster, which is why Denver should look for receivers on the market who have been in the NFL (ala Walker/Stovall) and have developed, or are continuing the development process.

[Broncoman13]

Stovall>???

[24champ]

The Broncos Brain Trust prefers Ohio State receiver Santonio Holmes over Jackson. The Broncos will use the 15th pick on a player who can help sooner than later and Holmes is clearly the more polished route runner and more proven commodity at this point.

If Holmes is gone by 15 the Broncos will first entertain trade-down offers, then, if they can't find an appropriate suitor, will make a tough decision between Minnesota running back Laurence Maroney and NC State's Lawson. As a side note, one of the reasons the Broncos value Maroney over Memphis' DeAngelo Williams is because of Maroney's experience in a similar zone-blocking offensive scheme at Minnesota.

So there you have it, in order of preference at 15 for the broncos

SanTonio Holmes WR
Laurence Maroney RB
Manny Lawson OLB/DE

I am hoping for a trade down, Maroney will be there in the mid to late 20's!
I would love for the Broncos to draft Manny Lawson and John McCargo. That will set the line for a couple of years.

[Mile High Shack]

all these so called insiders seem to pop up around draft day

it's pretty funny

[broncsyanks]

i see us trying to make a push to secure a vernon davis but that is about it. personally if that other myth of switching the #1's with green bay and does not come true. It has been said here in NY papers that they are seriously considering vernon daivs instead of d ' ferguson. so if we cant trade up to get VD dont bother otherwise. IMO we cannot let the raiders of all teams get this guy. moss, porter and VD, (boy doesnt that sound funny? LMAO) would be deadley for art shell even with no defense we see what KC can do.

[Atlas]

[QUOTE=sirhcyennek81]In draft mags, ect. Reed was supposed to go to the Broncos. It did not work out that way. Lelie has been a solid pick, tho.



Reed didn't go to the Broncos BECAUSE Lelie slipped to 20. Once he slipped to 20 He was the logical choice for the Broncos. Reed would also have been a logical choice.

[Drek]

Stovall>???
Stovall, coming from Notre Dame, is the most "pro ready" WR in the draft, at least thats the word from many front offices. Most think its because Weiss runs his team like an NFL squad with a cap on practice time.

I'm a big ND fan, I read a lot of interviews last year where a lot of players were talking about how hard Weiss' football "classes" were, Quinn even said it was the hardest class he had (he's a double major in finance and political science, for what its worth). Basically, Weiss came in, had a step by step plan to implement a full NFL style offense in just a few weeks and told the players they'd damn well better be ready to keep up.

Its an unknown right now but many scouts think Weiss' Notre Dame teams will become a factory of NFL ready offensive players. Stovall might not have reaped all the benefits since he was only with Weiss for one year, but he made some huge strides from his previous three seasons, which is the main reason we're even talking about him as anything other than a 2nd day project.

[-Slap-]

I believe the Rams would jump all over Leinart @ 11, but I don't think he'll make it that far.

The Raiders will take him @ 7 in his worst case scenario. They're trying to act like they don't want him because they don't want anyone to try and jump in front of them on draft day.

[Barry Ramey]

I'm hoping they trade down unless someone slips to them not expected to be there at #15. It does seem to make sense they would target either Holmes or Maroney, though I think of thsoe two, Maroney is the better pick since better chance to get a quality WR in the 2nd round than a RB in that spot that could be a legit starter.

I don't know about Lawson. I love his speed and athletic ablility. I jsut worry about his lack of weight and wonder if he can hold up. If they feel he can add more strength, then he would have to be the pick I think. Well, him or Wimbley, who also has the same question about him.

[Merlin]

The owner normally wins that battle - Young goes to the Titans
There is too much deception and misdirection for anyone to truly know what is going on. However, if your HC and OC want a particular QB (and your coaches are of the caliber of TT), then you listen to them. I highly doubt he would ignore the people who know best (especially Chow, since he has very recent experience at the college level and with L).

As to Denver, a WR or RB in the first is a waste of a pick when this team has more important needs and is so close to the promised land.

[sirhcyennek81]

[quote=sirhcyennek81]In draft mags, ect. Reed was supposed to go to the Broncos. It did not work out that way. Lelie has been a solid pick, tho.



Reed didn't go to the Broncos BECAUSE Lelie slipped to 20. Once he slipped to 20 He was the logical choice for the Broncos. Reed would also have been a logical choice.


Reed went before Lelie. (EDIT no he didnt. Had my drafts mixed up. Reed went 24 to the Ravens...my mistake.)

:Broncos: