Who will Win the NBa Finals? [Archive] - The Orange Mane

JCMElway

04-23-2006, 10:59 PM

Why did you include Dallas as one of the choices?
I was just going to put the three division winners and then an "other" option, but Dallas is, arguably, as strong a team as any of the others that won a division title. They just happened to go toe to toe with SA and lost during the regular season. They're going to be a significant factor in the playoffs and could knock SA off. So, they got included.

JCMElway

04-23-2006, 11:00 PM

SUNS!!!!!!!!!!

Nash 4 MVP!!

was your pick phx, is that why its italicized?? Good choice if so!

Phoenix is italicized for because that's what you selected.

ludo21

04-23-2006, 11:07 PM

Phoenix is italicized for because that's what you selected.

ooooooooooooooooooo ;D learn something new everyday!

You are Pistons man right?

yavoon

04-23-2006, 11:10 PM

its detroit's to lose. best 3 pt team, second best offensive efficiency I believe, commits fewest turnovers in nba history, has 5 good defenders and has atleast one clutch performer.

JCMElway

04-23-2006, 11:11 PM

ooooooooooooooooooo ;D learn something new everyday!

You are Pistons man right?

Yes, totally a Pistons guy and I'd be very dissappointed if they don't get it done this year. They have the right chemistry, solid bench, great defense, are injury free, a good coach in the fold.....

It's just they're year. Let the teams in the West pummel each other and then clean up the scraps. Good Times!

ludo21

04-23-2006, 11:13 PM

Yes, totally a Pistons guy and I'd be very dissappointed if they don't get it done this year. They have the right chemistry, solid bench, great defense, are injury free, a good coach in the fold.....

It's just they're year. Let the teams in the West pummel each other and then clean up the scraps. Good Times!

sure is...almost too easy......

I cant see any Eastern Conf. team beating them, SA has a chance,other than that, they wont really struggle..

But ive gone homer :homer:

And the SUNS IT IS!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO :sunshine:

Vegas_Bronco

04-23-2006, 11:19 PM

Where is KOBE's team, c'mon, haven't you been listening to Jim Rome - tha Lakurs are in!!!!! If Nash or James gets the MVP, then Phil Jackson deserves coach of the year for making a cake out of mud.

azbroncfan

04-23-2006, 11:21 PM

Only choices should be spurs and Pistons. If the Suns were at full strength with Amare they might have a chance but they have some banged up players.

epicSocialism4tw

04-23-2006, 11:50 PM

Dallas has a shot. They have what it takes to beat SA. If Josh Howard/Marquis Daniels/Adrian Griffin can take advantage of the mismatch with Duncan defending and consistently get by him on the perimeter on the way to the bucket, Dallas will win. That matchup is where the series will be decided.

If Josh Howard is healthy and Daniels looks anything like he did in game 1 vs. Memphis, Dallas will exploit that matchup.

I think that Dallas has a 45% chance of beating SA, with 5% of Dallas' 50/50 shot going to SA for homecourt.

epicSocialism4tw

04-23-2006, 11:51 PM

Only choices should be spurs and Pistons. If the Suns were at full strength with Amare they might have a chance but they have some banged up players.

We definately know that Phoenix doesnt have a chance. ;D

24champ

04-23-2006, 11:59 PM

Miami was my pick at the beginning of the year so Im sticking to it.

JCMElway

04-24-2006, 12:31 AM

Miami was my pick at the beginning of the year so Im sticking to it.

Why stick with it when it's probably incorrect?

-Slap-

04-24-2006, 01:11 AM

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/05_Spurs_Champ_Album/Images/05DuncanTim_05Finals_MVP.jpg

azbroncfan

04-24-2006, 12:41 PM

We definately know that Phoenix doesnt have a chance. ;D
I'm not a suns fan but watch them by default but your right they don't have a chance which is about the same as Dallas.

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 12:45 PM

I'm not a suns fan but watch them by default but your right they don't have a chance which is about the same as Dallas.

ROFL!

About the same chance as Dallas if Dallas loses Dirk.

Finger Roll

04-24-2006, 12:57 PM

Garcia Bronco

04-24-2006, 12:58 PM

Pistons will win it all. Probably play LeFraud and Cleveland to do it

maven

04-24-2006, 01:01 PM

Go Heat!:thumbs:

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 01:02 PM

Suns fan here. Let's see how far the Spurs, Pistons and Mavs get without their 2 best big men. None of those would even be in the playoffs. Pretty amazing they won 54 games with all the crap they had to go through.

Duncan has been about 80% all year.
Dallas has played with all of their players only a couple of times this season.

Phoenix isnt the only team who has dealt with injury issues. Stoudemire is not the best player on that team (Nash is), and Marion is better than anything that Dallas can throw out there beside Nowitzki.

Phoenix might not beat the Lakers. They will struggle against their second round opponent, and they are outclassed by both SA and Dallas. PHX has an easy path to the WCF (compared to SA and Dallas), but both of those two teams are so superior that you have to be crazy to think that PHX will go into that series favored on the road.

ludo21

04-24-2006, 01:03 PM

We definately know that Phoenix doesnt have a chance. ;D

Ha!

just wait, my friend, u just wait!! :strong:

Finger Roll

04-24-2006, 01:26 PM

Duncan has been about 80% all year.
Dallas has played with all of their players only a couple of times this season.

Phoenix isnt the only team who has dealt with injury issues. Stoudemire is not the best player on that team (Nash is), and Marion is better than anything that Dallas can throw out there beside Nowitzki.

Phoenix might not beat the Lakers. They will struggle against their second round opponent, and they are outclassed by both SA and Dallas. PHX has an easy path to the WCF (compared to SA and Dallas), but both of those two teams are so superior that you have to be crazy to think that PHX will go into that series favored on the road.

Yes but to make fun of a team when their 2 best big men are out for the playoffs is pretty gay IMO. Plus Phoenix would be 100times better right now with Stoudemire and Kurt Thomas. If they were healthy they would be better than Dallas and Miami for sure and almost as good as Detriot and San Antonio.

TheManeMan

04-24-2006, 01:32 PM

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 01:33 PM

Yes but to make fun of a team when their 2 best big men are out for the playoffs is pretty gay IMO. Plus Phoenix would be 100times better right now with Stoudemire and Kurt Thomas. If they were healthy they would be better than Dallas and Miami for sure and almost as good as Detriot and San Antonio.

I dont think that Kurt Thomas matters all that much in the end, but even if Stoudemire returned the Suns wouldnt be in that category.

Stoudemire looked awful in his return. Other players have taken 3-4 seasons to recover from that surgery, and most who have that surgery dont recover fully. Stoudemire looked as though his explosiveness was gone and that his lateral quickness was gone. I fear that his career might have lost alot of its lustre.

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 01:36 PM

You're probably right but, llama wont agree with you for the life of him...

He HATES Phoenix and will fail to give them props for anything they do...just gotta live with it...

No hate for phoenix, Nash is one of my faves. What I dont like is the hype that surrounds them. They are an above average playoff team. Nothing more, nothing less. They just arent classified with the top three, IMO. My rankings would look like this:

1 Detroit
2 SA
3 Dallas

4 Miami
5 Phoenix

bombay

04-24-2006, 01:38 PM

Pistons. They're clicking on all cylinders, so to speak.

TheManeMan

04-24-2006, 01:40 PM

Duncan has been about 80% all year.
Dallas has played with all of their players only a couple of times this season.

Lets see them play with Ducan at 0%, which is what Amare is...

Phoenix isnt the only team who has dealt with injury issues. Stoudemire is not the best player on that team (Nash is), and Marion is better than anything that Dallas can throw out there beside Nowitzki.

Do you not realize that if Amare was playing, that they'd have argueably the 3 best players at their respecitve postions? PG, SF and PF?

Phoenix might not beat the Lakers. They will struggle against their second round opponent, and they are outclassed by both SA and Dallas. PHX has an easy path to the WCF (compared to SA and Dallas), but both of those two teams are so superior that you have to be crazy to think that PHX will go into that series favored on the road.

Phoenix might not beat the Lakers Ha! Dude, your crazy...How are they outclassed by SA AND Dallas, I understand the Spurs but, why the Mavs? You kept saying the in MVP thread that the "other guys on Dallas besides Dirk arent worth a lick...but, Phoenix has Marion and whoever else that is better than the Mavs players"...How is Dallas "so superior" to Phoenix then? Because they won more games in the regular season? Pffft

My response in bold...

ludo21

04-24-2006, 01:43 PM

My response in bold...

Amen brother! :thumbs:

Their is a ton of hype on the Lakers...but they have proven nothing to be in the Suns class, so dont belittle the Suns by saying such things..

Finger Roll

04-24-2006, 01:44 PM

please stoudimare was like 50% when he came backHilarious! If you think a healthy Phoenix isn't better then the tissue soft Dallas Mav's :rofl: where is the smoking crack smiley,:giggle: Plus Kurt thomas is a very good defender and very important for rebounding.
1. Pistons
2. Spurs
3. healthy suns

4. Mavs
5. Heat

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 01:44 PM

My response in bold...

Dallas is superior because of:

1) Nowitzki.
2) the league's most efficient offense under Nowitzki
3) Post defense
4) more wins
5) more wins against good teams

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 01:46 PM

Amen brother! :thumbs:

Their is a ton of hype on the Lakers...but they have proven nothing to be in the Suns class, so dont belittle the Suns by saying such things..

Ludo, I think that the Suns will win, but the Lakers obviously gave them some serious trouble on their own floor. That's not encouraging for Suns fans.

Their problem is that they can get leads quickly, but they can lose them just as fast because they have no defense at PG and at C. Those are the two most important positions to defend.

TheManeMan

04-24-2006, 01:48 PM

Dallas is superior because of:

1) Nowitzki.
2) the league's most efficient offense under Nowitzki
3) Post defense
4) more wins
5) more wins against good teams

Ha! you make me smile everytime I read one of your posts...

Lets just see how superior this team is when they lose in 5 games to the Spurs...

ludo21

04-24-2006, 01:54 PM

Ludo, I think that the Suns will win, but the Lakers obviously gave them some serious trouble on their own floor. That's not encouraging for Suns fans.

Their problem is that they can get leads quickly, but they can lose them just as fast because they have no defense at PG and at C. Those are the two most important positions to defend.

That is the problem, and has been for awhile, but thats why they will build Unsurmountable leads!! ;)

TheManeMan

04-24-2006, 02:10 PM

And in this series the PG is Smush Parker and the C is Kwame Brown...I'm sure the Suns will have a tough time defending those guys... ::)

24champ

04-24-2006, 02:47 PM

Why stick with it when it's probably incorrect?
I firmly believe if they are healthy (which they clearly werent last year against the pistons) then they will take out the Pistons, Shaq will take that series personally since the Pistons have been his nemsis.8') Big guys still rule in the NBA and thats why I picked the Spurs vs Miami in the finals .

DBroncos4life

04-24-2006, 02:56 PM

the nuggets are on that list and not the Cavs?

ro_50

04-24-2006, 04:02 PM

Even though I'm a Spurs fan, I think the Pistons will win it.

azbroncfan

04-24-2006, 06:02 PM

Dallas is superior because of:

1) Nowitzki.
2) the league's most efficient offense under Nowitzki
3) Post defense
4) more wins
5) more wins against good teams

llama is trying to turn this thread into a Dirk circle jerk. Next he will say the Mavs are the best 4 seed ever.

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 08:50 PM

llama is trying to turn this thread into a Dirk circle jerk. Next he will say the Mavs are the best 4 seed ever.

Im not concerned about 4 seeds (outside of complaining about the terrible seeding procedures). Dallas is the second-best team in the conference right now. They have to beat SA to make the finals. Everyone else is a lamb for the slaughter ;D (including the Suns).

I think that Dallas beats Detroit in a 7 game series. Dallas smacked Detroit around the only time they played with two full lineups this season. 37 points I believe.

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 08:51 PM

Per sources at the FW Star-Telegram...

Avery Johnson will be named coach of the year on Tuesday.

sirhcyennek81

04-24-2006, 08:51 PM

Not to be obnoxious...but the team that wins 16 games...

:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 08:55 PM

Not to be obnoxious...but the team that wins 16 games...

:Broncos:

The team that outscores the other team will win those 16 games.

MajikMan7

04-24-2006, 08:56 PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the Nuggets

azbroncfan

04-24-2006, 08:56 PM

The team that outscores the other team will win those 16 games.

I always laugh when they give keys to the game in any sport, the answer is the team that outscores the other team will win.

sirhcyennek81

04-24-2006, 08:58 PM

I always laugh when they give keys to the game in any sport, the answer is the team that outscores the other team will win.

Its like Phil Simms keys to the game. Offense: Score Points...Defense...Don't let them...

:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw

04-24-2006, 09:00 PM

I always laugh when they give keys to the game in any sport, the answer is the team that outscores the other team will win.

You can tell that they really put the work in to get their pregame stuff together.

"The team that stops the other team when it counts and puts more points on the board will win the game."

Really? I never would have guessed! ;)