View Full Version : Rick Gosselin's New Mock Draft as of 4-23
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 09:25 AM
This guy is the only so called "expert" anyone should pay any attention to when it comes to predicting the draft. Every year his mock drafts are uncanny in how accurate they are. I don't know how he does this, but it's been rumored he has the best inside sources around. Gosselin writes for the Dallas Morning News and here are his picks as of today. I'm hoping he's wrong this time around because I don't care for this much. I've thought he was way off base in the past and it turned out he mostly right. But for what it's worth, I think he's wrong on a bunch of these. As I said though...I've thought that before and found out he pretty much knew what he was talking about.
1. Houston- Reggie Bush
2. New Orleans- Mario Williams
3. Tennessee- Vince Young
4. NY Jets- Matt Leinart
5. Green Bay- AJ Hawk
6. San Francisco- Vernon Davis
7. Oakland- Michael Huff
8. Buffalo- D'Brickashaw Ferguson
9. Detroit- Broderick Bunkley
10. Arizona- Jay Cutler
11. St. Louis- Jimmy Williams
12. Cleveland- Ernie Simms
13. Baltimore- Haloti Ngata
14. Philadelphia- Jonathan Joseph
15. Denver- Laurence Maroney
16. Miami- Chad Greenway
17. Minnesota- Demeco Ryans
18. Dallas- Manny Lawson
19. San Diego- Antonio Cromartie
20. Kansas City- Kamerion Wimbley
21. New England- Bobby Carpenter
22. San Francisco- Santonio Holmes
23. Tampa Bay- Winston Justice
24. Cincinattie- Tye Hill
25. NY Giants- Donte Whitner
26. Chicago- Jason Allen
27. Carolina- LenDale White
28. Jacksonville- Nick Mangold
29. NY Jets- DeAngelo Williams
30- Indianapolis- Joseph Adai
31- Seattle- Chad Jackson
32- Pittsburgh- Tamba Hall
watermock
04-23-2006, 09:31 AM
Winston Justice at 23? I want my 22 back. Plug him in at guard for now.
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 09:37 AM
I can't see Ernie Simms going to Cleveland at #12. Not only is that to high for him, but at 220 pounds, he's way to small to play in a 3-4 defense. I hope we don't take Maroney either...to much like Tatum Bell. If we do break the trend and take a RB in the 1st round, I'd rather have DeAngelo Williams.
Rohirrim
04-23-2006, 09:47 AM
It still doesn't make sense to me that Norm Chow would take VY over Leinhart unless he thinks VY is somehow a whole lot better, which I doubt. Wouldn't it be an advantage to him to take a QB who he has coached and already knows, has played in a pro style system which Chow ran, and which he now intends to use at Tenn.? I don't get it. Why start all over when you don't have to and take a shotgun/option QB who you know you're going to have to spend two or three years trying to break of bad habits?
Bronco9798
04-23-2006, 09:50 AM
Bills will take Bunkley at #8...
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 10:05 AM
It still doesn't make sense to me that Norm Chow would take VY over Leinhart unless he thinks VY is somehow a whole lot better, which I doubt. Wouldn't it be an advantage to him to take a QB who he has coached and already knows, has played in a pro style system which Chow ran, and which he now intends to use at Tenn.? I don't get it. Why start all over when you don't have to and take a shotgun/option QB who you know you're going to have to spend two or three years trying to break of bad habits?
That's one choice I do agree with. Maybe Chow knows enough about Leinert to realize he's not all that. How good would he have been if you switched him with Cutler and put him on Vanderbilt? No Reggie Bush or LenDale White to hand off to...no Mike Williams to throw to...no huge offensive line stocked with high future NFL draft choices to protect him...I think Leinert has the potential to totally bust.
Jason White won a Heisman too.
Play2win
04-23-2006, 10:07 AM
:TJnPopps:
Play2win
04-23-2006, 10:08 AM
That's one choice I do agree with. Maybe Chow knows enough about Leinert to realize he's not all that. How good would he have been if you switched him with Cutler and put him on Vanderbilt? No Reggie Bush or LenDale White to hand off to...no Mike Williams to throw to...no huge offensive line stocked with high future NFL draft choices to protect him...I think Leinert has the potential to totally bust.
Jason White won a Heisman too.
Leinart's Pro style (and success) is going to be a hell of alot like TOM BRADY...
Play2win
04-23-2006, 10:09 AM
Leinart has the Cool and Grace under Pressure that Brady has...
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 10:13 AM
Leinart has the Cool and Grace under Pressure that Brady has...
We'll see. Brady has been doing it with less talent in his backfield than Leinert had in college.
broncohaven
04-23-2006, 10:19 AM
Leinart's Pro style (and success) is going to be a hell of alot like TOM BRADY...I was thinking Geno Toretta.
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 10:21 AM
I was thinking Geno Toretta.
I'm thinking Todd Blackledge.
Rohirrim
04-23-2006, 10:30 AM
I think some people have unrealistic expectations for VY while completely ignoring the accomplishments of Leinart. Happens every draft. The guy you like becomes a super-hero and the guy he's competing against becomes a total bust. BTW, who's the last shotgun/option QB to have a HOF career in the NFL?
Play2win
04-23-2006, 10:43 AM
We'll see. Brady has been doing it with less talent in his backfield than Leinert had in college.
Its just my take, but I have seen alot of USC games, and from watching his play over the whole, He is going to be real good. LEINART is going to be alot like BRADY.
Like BRADY, he is tall, with fairly long arms. This matters with the huge O-Linemen and DLine players in today's NFL. He can see passing lane, make passing lanes that are not there for many other QB's, like say, JAKE.
Like BRADY, he is alot more mobile than people give him credit for, and can come up with a play if need be, but more so he can move and shift around in the pocket and by the extra time needed to make the completion. Like BRADY, his combination of Height, Size and deceptive mobility allow him to find a way to get the Completion.
Accuracy. BRADY's got it. So Does LEINART. Short, Medium and Long Accuracy and Touch. Not much more needs to be said here, except that accuracy is one of the most important attributes a QB could have, especially in our system.
Like BRADY, LEINART is cool and has a grace under pressure. He is clutch. He is smart, but he also thinks quickly on his feet and takes ACTION quickly. In short, Like BRADY, he comes through in the clutch.
Like BRADY, he can also get rid of the ball at the last second and make it a completion. Because he is tall with longer arms, like Brady, so he can use his body buy him little more time and then, when the defenses finally break down, get rid of the ball with a completion. We have seen BRADY do this time and time again. Usually some sort of a dump off pass, when you are sure he is going to be sacked. It is heartbreaking for the other Defense. I believe LEINART can do those exact same things in a way very similar to BRADY.
I wouldn't be surprised at all, after just a few years in this league, that LEINART would be almost a mirror image of BRADY. A mirror image of BRADY, how he goes about business, how he gets it done and his production.
Time will tell but, I think LEINART will succeed and, probably, excel in just his first few years in the NFL.
Now if only the Broncos, somehow, someway, could get him, I would be ecstatic... ;D
Play2win
04-23-2006, 10:45 AM
I was thinking Geno Toretta.
Thats what you get for thinking...
(bad take, bad take, bad take, bad take...)
(Wash, rinse, spin... Wash, rinse, spin...)
Rohirrim
04-23-2006, 10:51 AM
If I thought there was any chance at all of the Broncos moving up for Leinart, I would want that more than any other option in this draft. Leinart with Dinger and Shanahan would be amazing.
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 11:17 AM
Its just my take, but I have seen alot of USC games, and from watching his play over the whole, He is going to be real good. LEINART is going to be alot like BRADY.
Like BRADY, he is tall, with fairly long arms. This matters with the huge O-Linemen and DLine players in today's NFL. He can see passing lane, make passing lanes that are not there for many other QB's, like say, JAKE.
Lots of NFL QB's are 6'4" like Brady and Leinert. So what? Vince Young is taller than both.
Like BRADY, he is alot more mobile than people give him credit for, and can come up with a play if need be, but more so he can move and shift around in the pocket and by the extra time needed to make the completion. Like BRADY, his combination of Height, Size and deceptive mobility allow him to find a way to get the Completion.
He looks like a cigar store Indian to me. In 8 years he'll be as mobile as Gus Frerotte, which is to say a statue will outrun him. Come up with a play if you need it? I should hope so...here are his options; 1) hand off to his Heisman winning RB, 2) hand off to his other 1st round NFL draft pick, 3) drop back behind his 1st and 2nd round NFL draft choice O-line guys and eat a roast beef sandwhich while waiting for his 1st round NFL receiver to get open. Not that tough to figure out how he is able to make a play... As for buying extra time in the pocket...why has he even needed to? Using Leinert's mobility as a factor in why you think he'll be better than Young is like suggesting New Orleans is a great place to go sailing...this guy is nowhere near mobile enough to have that considered a plus in his favor. Next to Young, his mobility resembles that of a cadaver.
You keep comparing Brady to Leinert. But you forgot...Brady was drafted in the 6th round on the basis of the same physical attributes he still has...and those you admit Leinert also has. Brady didn't have the college advantage of playing with overwhelming talent like Leinert has, and Leinert won't have the professional advantage of being coached by Bill Belichick.
Enough about Leinert and Young...this thread's about the mock draft by Goselin...
Play2win
04-23-2006, 11:18 AM
If I thought there was any chance at all of the Broncos moving up for Leinart, I would want that more than any other option in this draft. Leinart with Dinger and Shanahan would be amazing.
Yep... Oh, well...
Play2win
04-23-2006, 11:19 AM
Enough about Leinert and Young...this thread's about the mock draft by Goselin...
We'll just keep tabs on it in the upcoming next few years... ;)
Ballhawk
04-23-2006, 11:24 AM
Two things that pop out on this mock is Joseph at #14 and the run on LBs right after our pick. If Miami and Minn are targeting LB we may be able to squeeze Dallas for a 3rd to jump over them. Overall this is going to be one exciting draft for us :)
Willynowei
04-23-2006, 11:28 AM
Laurence Maroney? WTF?
Hell, no.
Runningbacks are not worth a first round pick, not ever, not freakin ever. I wouldn't even pick.... well maybe i would pick up Reggie Bush at 15 but thats it.
Ballhawk
04-23-2006, 11:33 AM
Laurence Maroney? WTF?
Hell, no.
Runningbacks are not worth a first round pick, not ever, not freakin ever. I wouldn't even pick.... well maybe i would pick up Reggie Bush at 15 but thats it.
I not sure that Lendale is still not the pick at #15. We have Sunquist saying more picks allows us to take risk (was that to prepare Denver fans?) If Shanny liked Lendale before the combine, he has shown that an injury will not cool him on a player.
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 11:35 AM
Two things that pop out on this mock is Joseph at #14 and the run on LBs right after our pick. If Miami and Minn are targeting LB we may be able to squeeze Dallas for a 3rd to jump over them. Overall this is going to be one exciting draft for us :)
Dallas is rumored down here to be considering trading down. They need offensive line help and there are plenty of them to be found below the first round.
How does Detroit pass Cutler at 9 to take Bunkley? Is there any question they need a QB worse than a defensive lineman? I can't see that happening either.
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 11:37 AM
I not sure that Lendale is still not the pick at #15. We have Sunquist saying more picks allows us to take risk (was that to prepare Denver fans?) If Shanny liked Lendale before the combine, he has shown that an injury will not cool him on a player.
Picking an overweight, injured, possibly immature player who lives in the Denver area where all his high school buddies are is a bad idea. As for the risk part involving injury...two words:
Willie Middlebrooks
Cool Breeze
04-23-2006, 11:39 AM
If things fall this way, I say we move up three spots and take Haloti Ngata. Cleveland should go for it as Ernie Simms should be there at 15.
Ballhawk
04-23-2006, 11:44 AM
Picking an overweight, injured, possibly immature player who lives in the Denver area where all his high school buddies are is a bad idea. As for the risk part involving injury...two words:
Willie Middlebrooks
Just saying I have not ruled it out. I think we can admit that Shanny's draft board seems to vary quite a bit from Kiper's :)
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 11:45 AM
If things fall this way, I say we move up three spots and take Haloti Ngata. Cleveland should go for it as Ernie Simms should be there at 15.
Why would Cleveland want a 220 pound LB who can't play in a 3-4 defense? They'd take Ngata or Lawson before they'd take Simms...or even Chad Greenway. Simms will last past 24 IMO...he's Ian Gold...nothing more.
Cool Breeze
04-23-2006, 11:57 AM
Why would Cleveland want a 220 pound LB who can't play in a 3-4 defense? They'd take Ngata or Lawson before they'd take Simms...or even Chad Greenway. Simms will last past 24 IMO...he's Ian Gold...nothing more.
I am less concerned with why Cleveland picks who, and more concerned with the Broncos pick. Surely, drafting Laurence Maroney is less of a need than D line help. This is why I stated If things fall this way...
BroncoInferno
04-23-2006, 12:04 PM
I hope we don't take Maroney either...to much like Tatum Bell.
Not really; he's really more of a Clinton Portis type. He runs between the tackles very well and also has good hands and is a better blocker than most rookie RBs. He wouldn't be my first choice at #15, but he'd be solid and I wouldn't complain.
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 12:39 PM
I am less concerned with why Cleveland picks who, and more concerned with the Broncos pick. Surely, drafting Laurence Maroney is less of a need than D line help. This is why I stated If things fall this way...
I'm concerned with who Cleveland picks because they pick above us and they need D-line help and are likely to take either Bunkley, Ngata, or Lawson IMO. If they take Simms or something else we don't need...it help us. But I think they're going to go D-line or pick a guy who can play LB in the 3-4.
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 12:41 PM
Not really; he's really more of a Clinton Portis type. He runs between the tackles very well and also has good hands and is a better blocker than most rookie RBs. He wouldn't be my first choice at #15, but he'd be solid and I wouldn't complain.
I don't think Clinton Portis ran that well between the tackles either...better than Bell though.
Tombstone RJ
04-23-2006, 12:42 PM
Leinart has the Cool and Grace under Pressure that Brady has...
Dude, its way too early to be comparing Leinart to Brady. Your assuming way too much.
BroncoInferno
04-23-2006, 12:45 PM
I don't think Clinton Portis ran that well between the tackles either...better than Bell though.
Portis is underrated running between the tackles. That's practically all he does in Gibbs' system and he has still done well.
Play2win
04-23-2006, 12:46 PM
Dude, its way too early to be comparing Leinart to Brady. Your assuming way too much.
Yeah, I know... But we will see...
Bob's your Information Minister
04-23-2006, 02:02 PM
Wimbley is a second round pick. The Chiefs could trade down and get a similar player.
Bob's your Information Minister
04-23-2006, 02:03 PM
Runningbacks are not worth a first round pick, not ever, not freakin ever.
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/fantasy/09/12/hot.streaks1/t1_larryjohnson.jpg
Bob's your Information Minister
04-23-2006, 02:06 PM
I have to say I don't really like this mock. There is just no way Chad Jackson falls that far.
SportinOne
04-23-2006, 02:08 PM
There's no way we moved up for a RB when we can grab someone in the second or third that is almost as good.
I think we are going defense in the first.
footstepsfrom#27
04-23-2006, 02:13 PM
I have to say I don't really like this mock. There is just no way Chad Jackson falls that far.
Jackson could slip that far IMO...he's a late 1st/early 2nd in a draft that has a normal crop of receivers.
I don't like this draft either. But this guy's usually right. A couple of years ago he got something like 25 of the 32 correct in the first round. Nobody else even came close.
Hopefully he's wrong this time around. I don't want Maroney at #15.
backup qb
04-23-2006, 03:04 PM
It still doesn't make sense to me that Norm Chow would take VY over Leinhart unless he thinks VY is somehow a whole lot better, which I doubt. Wouldn't it be an advantage to him to take a QB who he has coached and already knows, has played in a pro style system which Chow ran, and which he now intends to use at Tenn.? I don't get it. Why start all over when you don't have to and take a shotgun/option QB who you know you're going to have to spend two or three years trying to break of bad habits?
Word has it that Tennessee owner Bud Adams is enamored with the fact that VY will create more of a buzz then Leinart would. Supposedly, the coaching staff wants Leinart though. Just another case of an owner valuing $$ over the most important thing in the world- WINS. Winning has a funny way of taking care of most everything. Take Leinart Tennessee.
DrFate
04-23-2006, 03:09 PM
I'm thinking Todd Blackledge.
I'm thinking Scott Mitchell ROFL!
DrFate
04-23-2006, 03:10 PM
Runningbacks are not worth a first round pick, not ever, not freakin ever.
Huh? ???
Tomlinson? Tiki? James?
Paladin
04-23-2006, 03:18 PM
Lots of things to happen yet. Nice fodder for BB talks, but that's all it is. I would not be surprised by whomever the Broncos take, and I would not complain, either. Last year's draft cured me of being totally skeptical of the Broncos' draft plans. What is more intrigueing is that trades are very much part of the FO's thinking.
I wouldn't get too worked up about this set of predictions. Althought I do like the idea of trading up with Cleveland if possible to get a shot at player who drops.
TheDave
04-23-2006, 03:19 PM
Though i think Marooney at 15 is alittle early for him to come off the board (22 would of been perfect) i still think he would be a stud in this offense. Everything i have read is that he weights about 220 right now and is a solid 4.4 guy. Add to that he has been running in our system for the last few years. Sounds like an instant contributor.... Now does anyone know if he can block?
joe9999
04-23-2006, 03:33 PM
Rick Gosselin is good, but NFL Draft Countdown has a better 3 year average as reported at:
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/top100/index.shtml
1pt for each player placed in round and 2pts for each play matched to team
1 NFL Draft Countdown 47.67
2 Rick Gosselin DMN 46.00
3 Football.com (boyer) 45.33
4 Rob's Scouting 45.00
5 Mel Kiper jr. 44.33 43
SimonFletcher73
04-23-2006, 04:04 PM
Trade down to the 23-30 range and take Lendale, Maroney, or DW. Pick up a 2nd rounder.
ozomulsion
04-23-2006, 08:18 PM
Laurence Maroney? WTF?
Hell, no.
Runningbacks are not worth a first round pick, not ever, not freakin ever. I wouldn't even pick.... well maybe i would pick up Reggie Bush at 15 but thats it.
You're correct, sometimes they are worth a number #1 pick. (Barry Sanders)
Before you start with the BS. Name one RB who could've won a Super Bowl with Rodney Peete, Andre Ware, Eric Kramer or Scott Mitchell running the show.
Gotta call BS on that. If we allow Justice to just slide by, i will go crazy. This is the guy we should have at RT. We can move Foster who can gain some weight to RG. That would be a great duo and our line would probably have the most talent its had since 98. Lepsis, Hamilton, Nalen, Foster, Justice... man that has a nice ring to it.
epicSocialism4tw
04-24-2006, 01:37 AM
Huh? ???
Tomlinson? Tiki? James?
Barry Sanders?
Clockwork Orange
04-24-2006, 01:40 AM
Barry Sanders?
Walter Payton? Earl Campbell?
OrangeShadow
04-24-2006, 05:52 AM
the only RB thats been worth a first rounder recently has been LT
broncohaven
04-24-2006, 06:08 AM
Its just my take, but I have seen alot of USC games, and from watching his play over the whole, He is going to be real good. LEINART is going to be alot like BRADY.
Like BRADY, he is tall, with fairly long arms. This matters with the huge O-Linemen and DLine players in today's NFL. He can see passing lane, make passing lanes that are not there for many other QB's, like say, JAKE.
Like BRADY, he is alot more mobile than people give him credit for, and can come up with a play if need be, but more so he can move and shift around in the pocket and by the extra time needed to make the completion. Like BRADY, his combination of Height, Size and deceptive mobility allow him to find a way to get the Completion.
Accuracy. BRADY's got it. So Does LEINART. Short, Medium and Long Accuracy and Touch. Not much more needs to be said here, except that accuracy is one of the most important attributes a QB could have, especially in our system.
Like BRADY, LEINART is cool and has a grace under pressure. He is clutch. He is smart, but he also thinks quickly on his feet and takes ACTION quickly. In short, Like BRADY, he comes through in the clutch.
Like BRADY, he can also get rid of the ball at the last second and make it a completion. Because he is tall with longer arms, like Brady, so he can use his body buy him little more time and then, when the defenses finally break down, get rid of the ball with a completion. We have seen BRADY do this time and time again. Usually some sort of a dump off pass, when you are sure he is going to be sacked. It is heartbreaking for the other Defense. I believe LEINART can do those exact same things in a way very similar to BRADY.
I wouldn't be surprised at all, after just a few years in this league, that LEINART would be almost a mirror image of BRADY. A mirror image of BRADY, how he goes about business, how he gets it done and his production.
Time will tell but, I think LEINART will succeed and, probably, excel in just his first few years in the NFL.
Now if only the Broncos, somehow, someway, could get him, I would be ecstatic... ;D
Leinart's accuracy is greatly overrated. Merril Hodge has cited a number of passes that highlight how inaccurate Leinart is. Including the famous pass to Jarret in the Notre Dame game. The ball would have been picked in the NFL. Comined with his mediocre arm and lack of mobility, and what is his strong suit?
Brady was a 6th rounder. Leinart should be.
epicSocialism4tw
04-24-2006, 10:20 AM
the only RB thats been worth a first rounder recently has been LT
Clinton Portis was worth a #1.
DBroncos4life
04-24-2006, 10:28 AM
the only RB thats been worth a first rounder recently has been LT
Larry Johnson doesn't do anything for you then ???
Merlin
04-24-2006, 01:12 PM
There is a difference between a RB being worth a first round pick, and the present Denver coaching staff needing to pick a RB in the first round. Considering the needs of this team (and its strengths), it is a fairly poor decision to pick a RB in the 1st (especially at 15). Move down and pick a DL. Stay only if you can pick one of the two DTs.
Hercules Rockefeller
04-24-2006, 01:30 PM
This guy is the only so called "expert" anyone should pay any attention to when it comes to predicting the draft. Every year his mock drafts are uncanny in how accurate they are.
No, Gosselin's first two mocks are almost universally considered total crap because he's the one doing the mock. His 3rd and final mock, which should be out on Friday or Saturday, is the one to take seriously because that's where he uses whoever his source is.
bombay
04-24-2006, 01:34 PM
I saw a thing on ESPN showing V. Davis, Chad Jackson, S. Moss, and DeAngelo Williams catching balls shot at them at 60 MPH from a machine - rapid fire, and coming at them from different angles. Chad Jackson blew away the field, catching 27. His closest competition was Moss with 18. V. Davis caught 16. I've changed my mind about Jackson. He showed great hands, and I wouldn't mind seeing him at 15.
Merlin
04-24-2006, 01:52 PM
I saw a thing on ESPN showing V. Davis, Chad Jackson, S. Moss, and DeAngelo Williams catching balls shot at them at 60 MPH from a machine - rapid fire, and coming at them from different angles. Chad Jackson blew away the field, catching 27. His closest competition was Moss with 18. V. Davis caught 16. I've changed my mind about Jackson. He showed great hands, and I wouldn't mind seeing him at 15.
Although I also thought that was impressive, it is a totally different story doing that while hearing footsteps. ED, Rod and Putz would seem to be able to catch a lot of balls regardless of what they "hear/heard". A link SoCal posted about a particular football game makes me wonder about Chad and how he would react.
Raider Bill
04-24-2006, 08:49 PM
I think some people have unrealistic expectations for VY while completely ignoring the accomplishments of Leinart. Happens every draft. The guy you like becomes a super-hero and the guy he's competing against becomes a total bust. BTW, who's the last shotgun/option QB to have a HOF career in the NFL?
Not HOF, but McNabb played in a sprint option offense at Syracuse.
sirhcyennek81
04-24-2006, 08:50 PM
This guy is the only so called "expert" anyone should pay any attention to when it comes to predicting the draft. Every year his mock drafts are uncanny in how accurate they are. I don't know how he does this, but it's been rumored he has the best inside sources around. Gosselin writes for the Dallas Morning News and here are his picks as of today. I'm hoping he's wrong this time around because I don't care for this much. I've thought he was way off base in the past and it turned out he mostly right. But for what it's worth, I think he's wrong on a bunch of these. As I said though...I've thought that before and found out he pretty much knew what he was talking about.
1. Houston- Reggie Bush
2. New Orleans- Mario Williams
3. Tennessee- Vince Young
4. NY Jets- Matt Leinart
5. Green Bay- AJ Hawk
6. San Francisco- Vernon Davis
7. Oakland- Michael Huff
8. Buffalo- D'Brickashaw Ferguson
9. Detroit- Broderick Bunkley
10. Arizona- Jay Cutler
11. St. Louis- Jimmy Williams
12. Cleveland- Ernie Simms
13. Baltimore- Haloti Ngata
14. Philadelphia- Jonathan Joseph
15. Denver- Laurence Maroney
16. Miami- Chad Greenway
17. Minnesota- Demeco Ryans
18. Dallas- Manny Lawson
19. San Diego- Antonio Cromartie
20. Kansas City- Kamerion Wimbley
21. New England- Bobby Carpenter
22. San Francisco- Santonio Holmes
23. Tampa Bay- Winston Justice
24. Cincinattie- Tye Hill
25. NY Giants- Donte Whitner
26. Chicago- Jason Allen
27. Carolina- LenDale White
28. Jacksonville- Nick Mangold
29. NY Jets- DeAngelo Williams
30- Indianapolis- Joseph Adai
31- Seattle- Chad Jackson
32- Pittsburgh- Tamba Hall
well WTF? I said Maroney in my mock, few days before this man posted his...poser...
:Broncos:
i think that if we were aiming for a running back in round one, we would have traded out of the 15th spot, becuase all of the backs available at 15 would still be available at 22...so i think the sf trade shows our interest isnt in rb in round 1
but let me clarify, i am from minnesota, and have watched maroney at the u of m....he is the real deal, i just dont thihk he or any other runner is our target in round one
footstepsfrom#27
04-24-2006, 09:51 PM
No, Gosselin's first two mocks are almost universally considered total crap because he's the one doing the mock. His 3rd and final mock, which should be out on Friday or Saturday, is the one to take seriously because that's where he uses whoever his source is.
Balogna. All three are his. If he had another source, everyone else would be using it too.
Hercules Rockefeller
04-24-2006, 10:01 PM
Balogna. All three are his. If he had another source, everyone else would be using it too.
Everyone would be using it? That's why it's called a "source". They don't talk to everyone who wants info from them. If every source talked to everyone, Williamson and Legwold could actually get some scoops on the Broncos.
I'll say it again, Gosselin's first two mocks are not that accurate. The only one worth paying attention to is his final one, and you didn't post his final mock.
footstepsfrom#27
04-24-2006, 10:13 PM
Everyone would be using it? That's why it's called a "source". They don't talk to everyone who wants info from them. If every source talked to everyone, Williamson and Legwold could actually get some scoops on the Broncos.
I'll say it again, Gosselin's first two mocks are not that accurate. The only one worth paying attention to is his final one, and you didn't post his final mock.
OK...I get what you're saying. I agree he uses inside sources, but I don't see why you think that doesn't make the picks his own, since he does the research to get them. If anything he deserves credit for getting inside information. Anyway, I'm not sure if this is his final mock or not since we've only got a few days left. If he posts another one in the next couple days, I'll post it though.