Barry goes yard 709 v.s. Rockies ...

[TDmvp]

Grumble ...

[OrangeShadow]

you mean 709*

[TDmvp]

LOLOLOLOL
what you said

[ludo21]

you mean 709*


Ha!

These days not so much, but still has the effects from it!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Aaron Cook should be sent down for throwing that pitch and Rockies management fired.

[Clockwork Orange]

B*nds should demand a trade to the Rockies seeing as he only seems to have warning track power in every other park these days.

But then that may have more to do with his dealers spending the offseason in the clink than anything else.

[TDmvp]

Like MANy months ago there was a post about Barry where i said

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=31244&highlight=syringe


then ... it happens ... /giggles ...

[-Slap-]

****er had to go to Coors to finally hit one out, more than half the way into the season. Its obvious he misses the physical and psychological boost his illegal narcotics gave him. Piece of rat****.

[Emancipator2]

I'm rooting for Barry to pass Ruth, but not Hank.

[broncos_mtnman]

I'm rooting for Barry to pass Ruth, but not Hank.

Not me.

Steroids have totally turned me off on Bonds.

[-Slap-]

Aaron Cook should be sent down for throwing that pitch and Rockies management fired.
Next time up they should have skulled him. If I was a manager, I would fine my pitchers any time they didn't put number one in his ****ing ear. How could they miss that overgrown pumpkin on his shoulders?

[TDmvp]

:O) slap....

[Emancipator2]

Not me.

Steroids have totally turned me off on Bonds.
No one has proved Bonds used steroids illegally. I'm against steroids in sports too. Good to see you BMM. :wave:

[-Slap-]

No one has proved Bonds used steroids illegally.
You've emancipated your mind alright. He testified that he used steroids before a grand jury.

[-Slap-]

http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/wiki/images/thumb/7/7c/225px-Babe_Ruth_Red_Sox.JPEG

[Emancipator2]

You've emancipated your mind alright. He testified that he used steroids before a grand jury.
It wasn't illegal at the time. Not the kind he used. It's all in my wording.
But yes I'm aware of that he testified to the grand jury.

Nice to meet you by the way Slap.

[-Slap-]

It wasn't illegal at the time. Not the kind he used. It's all in my wording.
But yes I'm aware of that he testified to the grand jury.

Nice to meet you by the way Slap.
Charmed.

The federal government made unauthorized usage of steroids illegal back in 1990.

[Emancipator2]

Charmed.

The federal government made unauthorized usage of steroids illegal back in 1990.
Well according to baseball it wasn't a substance (certain type of steroid) that was on the illegal use list at time. He can't get in trouble for that. Unless they find out he used the steroids recently. I've heard that can't go back on those test since his expected substance wasn't on the list then either. He can only get in trouble if they find he perjured himself on the boards.

Nice looking dog. Great name for him.

[phillybroncosnut]

I'm rooting for Barry to pass Ruth, but not Hank.


Yeah, that makes sense.

Amazing how Barry has warning track power only now. Wonder what happened.

[Bronco LB 59]

Well according to baseball it wasn't a substance (certain type of steroid) that was on the illegal use list at time. He can't get in trouble for that. Unless they find out he used the steroids recently. I've heard that can't go back on those test since his expected substance wasn't on the list then either. He can only get in trouble if they find he perjured himself on the boards.

Nice looking dog. Great name for him.

Wrong. Commisioner Fay Vincent sent a memo to every club back in 1991 stating that the use of steroids was prohibited by Major League Baseball.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Well according to baseball it wasn't a substance (certain type of steroid) that was on the illegal use list at time. He can't get in trouble for that. Unless they find out he used the steroids recently. I've heard that can't go back on those test since his expected substance wasn't on the list then either. He can only get in trouble if they find he perjured himself on the boards.

Nice looking dog. Great name for him.
He cheated just like McGwire and then lied about it.
Biggest POS to ever grace modern baseball!







http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Bocawaves/bonds_asterikcopy.jpg

[Rocket 7]

No one has proved Bonds used steroids illegally.
O.J. was found not guilty but thats doesn't mean he didn't do it.

[-Slap-]

B*rry B*nds isn't worth a drop of pus off the tip of the Bambino's syphlitic schloinker.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2005/04/09/1113063454_1720.jpg

[delany]

A grand ole subject...

I have no problem with people hating on Barry...but at least be consistant.

To say he is any more or less of a POS than anybody else that has juiced...is inane. He is a cheater....just like the other cheaters. They ALL deserve to be condemed. Lets not make it a popularity contest and reserve it just for the assholes.

We better stop this thread though before Lidder showers us with stats and numbers.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

We better stop this thread though before Lidder showers us with stats and numbers.
He has given up on this subject I believe.

[-Slap-]

A grand ole subject...

I have no problem with people hating on Barry...but at least be consistant.

To say he is any more or less of a POS than anybody else that has juiced...is inane. He is a cheater....just like the other cheaters. They ALL deserve to be condemed. Lets not make it a popularity contest and reserve it just for the a-holes.

We better stop this thread though before Lidder showers us with stats and numbers.
Here we go again. First off, the evidence against B*nds is overwhelming. Second, look at what happened to Raffy Palmeiro. The guy was basically run out of the league in disgrace. Is that hating on him enough for you? I would be perfectly happy to hate on Mark McGwire to prove my point. Seen him lately? It takes a federal subpoena or the closing ceremony of a 40 year old ballpark to get him out in public these days. In short, your assertions that B*nds gets a harder deal than others because of some giant conspiracy is bullcrap. B*nds has treated everybody around him like trash since he was in high school. Not surprising he's made a few enemies along the way. He has nobody to blame but himself for any extra venom that comes his way.

[Kaylore]

He has nobody to blame but himself for any extra venom that comes his way. Whatever Slap. Leave him alone. Since when does cheating with illegal substances make someone a bad person? Since when does lying to the world about you do make you worthy of criticism? What does crapping all over past legends stats by continuing to play juiced up have to do with character? If others do it, then it innoculates him from any criticism! Duh!

Barry is just misunderstood because he suffers from the only known case of someone's head magically turning into something resembling a cancerous watermelon, which has the strange side effect of making you strong. That poor man. Is there no justice in this cruel world? :pity:

[-Slap-]

Whatever Slap. Leave him alone. Since when does cheating with illegal substances make someone a bad person? Since when does lying to the world about you do make you worthy of criticism? What does crapping all over past legends stats by continuing to play juiced up have to do with character? If others do it, then it innoculates him from any criticism! Duh!

Barry is just misunderstood because he suffers from the only known case of someone's head magically turning into something resembling a cancerous watermelon, which has the strange side effect of making you strong. That poor man. Is there no justice in this cruel world? :pity:

Preach on, brother!

Media witch-hunts Barry Bonds (http://www.workers.org/2006/us/barry-bonds-0406/)
WW commentary

By Mike Gimbel

Published Mar 29, 2006 11:28 PM
Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball player since Babe Ruth, yet the big business media are involved in a frenzied attack intended to demonize him. Why are they doing this instead of praising him for all his tremendous accomplishments?

There are many sports figures of all races that the big business media showers praise on. Some of those players who receive the praise are worthy of it, but many are not, and few if any of them can come remotely close to Bonds in terms of dominance in their sport.

What is it about Bonds that the big business media so dislike? They call Bonds “surly.” They might as well call him “uppity,” but that term would reveal their racist and classist attitudes against so prominent a Black sports figure. It’s one thing to be a “sports hero” who bows his head in respect to the media representatives of the ruling class. That “sports hero” will generate praise from them as a "model," to be followed with, "and a real good guy."

Bonds is paid millions of dollars each year, but the ruling class cannot tolerate even the smallest indication of rebelliousness or defiance, especially from so prominent a “hero” to so many youth. Sports, just like every other area of capitalist society, is run by millionaires and billionaires who cannot and will not tolerate having their “employ ees” talk back to them. It sets a bad example that many others may soon follow.

Rickey Henderson had one of the greatest careers in Major League Baseball history. Henderson, also a Black baseball player like Bonds, excelled in every area of offense and defense yet was continually dogged by attacks from the media. Unlike Bonds, there never once was any claim of using steroids against Henderson, yet he also was reviled even while he was breaking baseball record after record. What was Henderson’s crime?

He, like Bonds, refused to bow his head to his “master” and was dubbed “surly.” He was often attacked for “lackadaisical defensive play” in the outfield, despite the fact that he was one of the truly great defensive outfielders of his day.

The sports reporters for the big business media are in no way different from the reporters on the so-called “hard news” side. They report to the same editorial staffs and the same media conglomerates. Bonds is being condemned in a witch-hunt atmosphere created by that same media. How is that different from what the media did in the run-up to the Iraq invasion? Where are the WMDs? Bonds has passed every single urine test.

Bonds has never been convicted of a single infraction, yet he is being convicted without a trial by the big business media in what can only be termed a lynch mob atmosphere. The same media that has lied about the war cannot be trusted to tell us the truth, even when it comes to sports. The ruling class propaganda doesn’t disappear when you flip the pages from the front to the back of a newspaper. It’s still the same editors and owners. They cannot and will not tolerate even the mildest defiance, whether it comes from Black sports figures or Saddam Hussein.

Kansas City Star sportswriter Jason Whitlock stated on ESPN’s Sports Reporters March 26 that Bonds is being witch-hunted because he is pursuing the home run record of Babe Ruth. By defending Barry Bonds we defend the right of every worker to “speak truth to power.” Roger Clemens, one of the greatest pitchers in the history of the game, has also called the attacks on Bonds a “witch-hunt.” Is that an indication of things to come from other players? We hope so!

[Rock Chalk]

I'm rooting for Barry to pass Ruth, but not Hank.
Racist.

[Emancipator2]

Racist.
That's a weird off the wall remark.
:oyvey:

[Rohirrim]

I wish Don Drysdale was still alive and throwin' ball in Dodger Blue. He'd show Baroid what the game is all about.

[GreatBronco16]

That's a weird off the wall remark.
:oyvey:


Well what do you expect? You want Bonds to pass Ruth(white) but not Hank(black)

Care to give us your reason for why you want it like that?

[Emancipator2]

Well what do you expect? You want Bonds to pass Ruth(white) but not Hank(black)

Care to give us your reason for why you want it like that?
Easy answer (although no one should have to explain. Shouldn't ever be attacked as racist. That's what I expect). I'm a Barry fan........I want him to do well but I don't want him to break Hank. Don't want anyone to break Hank.

There will be a few hitters that will get the 715 mark, but run out of gas before Hank.

As for race, Ruth and I have the same. As for Ruth he's before my time. I saw Hank play. He's not only the HR leader, but he is the all time RBI leader.

Don't let the user name fool ya! It is what it is. Simply emancipate your mind.

Normally people who are eager to call someone that usually...........

[Sgt Sauce]

this year the majority of players getting busted for juice in the minors have been a pitchers.. a lot of the players (hitters/and pitchers) were doing it, so lighten up on Bonds. He's an ###hole, but hitting a ball takes more than juice, it takes skill... someone test Andruw Jones and his fat head for HGH

[RunYouOver26]

Good thing he's only hit 1...he's only on pace for about 10.


Hope he finishes with 1, too.:redpunch:

[Mtbrncofn]

That's a weird off the wall remark.
:oyvey:


LOL Around here it's probably better to be called a racist than a Barry admirer. Ha!

[Emancipator2]

LOL Around here it's probably better to be called a racist than a Barry admirer. Ha!
Still didn't like the racist remark from that poster. Then I check and he's a mod. I guess if you have authority you are allowed to harass and be rude.


But I understand your post. Good one ;)

[Kaylore]

That's a weird off the wall remark.
:oyvey:
This is:

By defending Barry Bonds we defend the right of every worker to “speak truth to power.
So by supporting Barry Bonds we can unite as workmen. Right.

[Mtbrncofn]

Still didn't like the racist remark from that poster. Then I check and he's a mod. I guess if you have authority you are allowed to harass and be rude.


But I understand your post. Good one ;)


Alec isn't a mod, but is always rude and loves to harass. :)

[Emancipator2]

Alec isn't a mod, but is always rude and loves to harass. :)

Thanks for the info on the poster. lol


According to the Board he is: (copied and paste)

Moderators
User Name / Location Forums Contact
ak1971
Denver, CO Orange Mane Hold 'Em League
Alec Photoshop Fun, Photoshop Tutorials
Blueflame
in my cups... lol Orange Mane General Discussion
FADERPROOF
Painesville OH Orange Mane General Discussion, The Horses Butt
Garcia Bronco
Far Away...Maybe Orange Mane General Discussion
Meck77
In a parking lot Tailgate Forum
Old Dude Off Topics Forum, Orange Mane General Discussion
Pezman
SoCal Fantasy Football Forum 2005, Orange Mane General Discussion
SoCalBronco
Arcadia, CA Orange Mane General Discussion
Taco John Orange Mane General Discussion
winstoncup bronco
NEW YORK CITY, USA Fantasy Football Forum 2005

[Mtbrncofn]

Ahhhh, but that's just in that forum, I think. Wouldn't know, never been in there.

[Emancipator2]

Ahhhh, but that's just in that forum, I think. Wouldn't know, never been in there.
By the way..........it is good to have met you.
What is a hot topic around here that has a good thread.

[ludo21]

ahhh, i guess he is mod of that forum, but in general, he is not.

[Mtbrncofn]

By the way..........it is good to have met you.
What is a hot topic around here that has a good thread.


You too. Check out the Ash threads, or if you're a hockey fan.....the hockey threads rule.

[WABronco]

You too. Check out the Ash threads, or if you're a hockey fan.....the hockey threads rule.

E's the biggest Lelie homer out there...

[Emancipator2]

E's the biggest Lelie homer out there...
Don't tell him about my homerism for Ashley Lelie. ROFL!

[Mtbrncofn]

Honestly, I can't tell you what the hot football threads are right now. It's playoff hockey time and that's where my excitement is.

[RunByDesign]

The Great Barroid* ascends the mythical homerun ladder.

POS. Teh Ban!!

[maven]

****er had to go to Coors to finally hit one out, more than half the way into the season. Its obvious he misses the physical and psychological boost his illegal narcotics gave him. Piece of rat****.

Oh wah. It's going to happen. You show so much hatred towards the man it is quite comical.

[Pendejo]

I wish Don Drysdale was still alive and throwin' ball in Dodger Blue. He'd show Baroid what the game is all about.

Outstanding. Why intentionally walk a guy with four pitches when you can intentionally walk him with one.

Professional sports as a whole lacks that sort of pragmatism nowadays. I guess there's just too much money at stake.

[Garcia Bronco]

Awesome...7 more to go before he passes B Ruth.

[Clockwork Orange]

Awesome...7 more to go before he passes B Ruth.

He'd better get all seven of them tomorrow because he won't be playing at Coors for a while after that.

[-Slap-]

Oh wah. It's going to happen. You show so much hatred towards the man it is quite comical.
What's comical is you publicly jerking off over Hulk Hogan and your other WWF heros. Keeps your thumb and index finger busy I guess.

[Northman]

It wasn't illegal at the time. Not the kind he used. It's all in my wording.
But yes I'm aware of that he testified to the grand jury.

Nice to meet you by the way Slap.


It may not have been against the rules of baseball at the time but it certainly wasnt endorsed by the league either. Otherwise every player would have been juiced and not just a select few. The bottom line with Barry and his record is that it is tainted. Can you honestly tell me that you accept someone who cheated to get his stats? I mean its wrong on so many levels.

[Northman]

Here we go again. First off, the evidence against B*nds is overwhelming. Second, look at what happened to Raffy Palmeiro. The guy was basically run out of the league in disgrace. Is that hating on him enough for you? I would be perfectly happy to hate on Mark McGwire to prove my point. Seen him lately? It takes a federal subpoena or the closing ceremony of a 40 year old ballpark to get him out in public these days. In short, your assertions that B*nds gets a harder deal than others because of some giant conspiracy is bullcrap. B*nds has treated everybody around him like trash since he was in high school. Not surprising he's made a few enemies along the way. He has nobody to blame but himself for any extra venom that comes his way.


Great post, definitely.

[Rock Chalk]

That's a weird off the wall remark.
:oyvey:
Let's flip it.

Let's say McGwire was chasing Hank and Ruth was the HR leader. If I wanted McGwire to beat out Hank but not Ruth, I gaurantee you every black man in America would be calling me racist.

So, since the roles are exactly the same only the colors reversed, its racist.

Racist.

[Emancipator2]

Let's flip it.

Let's say McGwire was chasing Hank and Ruth was the HR leader. If I wanted McGwire to beat out Hank but not Ruth, I gaurantee you every black man in America would be calling me racist.

So, since the roles are exactly the same only the colors reversed, its racist.

Racist.

Alec, I know see you are simply make alot of ignorant comments. You are the only one to bring race in this situation. Like I said in a later post how is a white man who pulls for Barry Bonds to pass Ruth and not Hank have anything to do with being racist. It has to do with me liking Barry. I saw Hank play when I was a kid. I don't want anyone to pass him.

Anyways, I've been told to overlook you and your SOS posts.

[Emancipator2]

It may not have been against the rules of baseball at the time but it certainly wasnt endorsed by the league either. Otherwise every player would have been juiced and not just a select few. The bottom line with Barry and his record is that it is tainted. Can you honestly tell me that you accept someone who cheated to get his stats? I mean its wrong on so many levels.
Good post Anubis and you are right I don't accept his stats if he cheated. It is wrong on all levels.

[RunYouOver26]

Good post Anubis and you are right I don't accept his stats if he cheated. It is wrong on all levels.

All levels...to me, Barry Bonds had a career 400 Home Runs....not a lot more...If a * doesn't go up with his record, I'll be pissed.....

[GreatBronco16]

Good post Anubis and you are right I don't accept his stats if he cheated. It is wrong on all levels.


Then why are you so hard up for him to pass Ruth? You just said you don't accept his stats if he cheated, well, he did.

He cheated plain and simple. He took illegal substances to enhance his game. I just hope his knees finally blow out on him before he can pass Ruth.

[Emancipator2]

Then why are you so hard up for him to pass Ruth? You just said you don't accept his stats if he cheated, well, he did.

He cheated plain and simple. He took illegal substances to enhance his game. I just hope his knees finally blow out on him before he can pass Ruth.
As you are late in the conversation directed to me, Alec's statement was about race. Ignorantly confounded.

Anubis statement had nothing to do with race. He made the perfect point that Bonds cheated and his stats should not count. I hadn't stopped to look at that point. That's why I told him good point and he was right. As for Alec his statement is still off the wall. Probably because he is a closet racist trying to put his beliefs onto others.

[GreatBronco16]

So now you don't want Bonds to pass Ruth? I mean come on out with it. You can't have it both ways.

[Emancipator2]

So now you don't want Bonds to pass Ruth? I mean come on out with it. You can't have it both ways.
You need to read better. Simple and plain. Can't have it both ways.

[GreatBronco16]

My reading is fine. First you say you want Bonds to pass Ruth but not Hank because you actually got to see Hank play, and that you were a Bonds fan. Then you say that you don't accept Bonds stats if he cheated. Then you respond to me saying that you agree with what Anubis said.

I'm just trying to figure out where you stand now. Either you want the cheater to pass Ruth now or not. There is no 'ifs' anymore, Bonds cheated, he's admitted to it to the grand jury.

So where do you stand now.