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Ray Finkle
04-22-2006, 05:06 PM
Hello All,
I have been getting several offers to coach some HS lacrosse teams but may have to become a teacher to do so. Any teachers out there that can offer advice? I would probably teach HS and really don't care about the $ factor....My wife is the big bread winner....thanks

Swedish Extrovert
04-22-2006, 05:24 PM
As long as you are partial to starving and cheap apartments , I say go for it.

But seriously, teachers are cool. Just dont be a communist. I hate communist teachers.

Kaylore
04-22-2006, 06:06 PM
I've seriously considered teaching. My old principle from high school has offered me a job twice. You get to help teach kids and teach them to work together, lean on each other and better themselves as a coach.

I'm a conservative and don't mind leftist teachers (most of them are anyway) as long as they are fair and teach what is fact. Best teacher in high school I had was way left wing, but she was fair in the clasroom and an awesome teacher.

plummershelper
04-22-2006, 07:48 PM
Kaylore, as a teacher I have to tell you that it's Principal, not principle. J/K. Teaching is great if you like working with kids and presenting information. Sure, it's no big dough, but you get taken care of well with good hours, nice summers, and decent benefits. Coaching ups it a bit too. There's always ways to help the income too. We live very comfortably in Texas on 2 teacher's salaries. It can definitely be done :)

Needa Pass Rush
04-22-2006, 10:19 PM
Hello All,
I have been getting several offers to coach some HS lacrosse teams but may have to become a teacher to do so. Any teachers out there that can offer advice? I would probably teach HS and really don't care about the $ factor....My wife is the big bread winner....thanks

Where are you considering teaching, Ray? Public or private?

Ray Finkle
04-22-2006, 11:52 PM
Where are you considering teaching, Ray? Public or private?


either....what would be best for my girl and future.....

Sir Mawn
04-22-2006, 11:56 PM
I tought for 3 years and loved every minute. A very intense yet rewarding job. Go for it.

Ray Finkle
04-23-2006, 07:34 AM
thanks for the advice, I plan to look at teaching some more....

Needa Pass Rush
04-23-2006, 07:44 AM
I tought for 3 years and loved every minute. A very intense yet rewarding job. Go for it. :wave:

Needa Pass Rush
04-23-2006, 07:48 AM
either....what would be best for my girl and future.....

Laces out, Dan! Check your PM's, Raymond.

illbroncsfn
04-23-2006, 08:34 PM
Been teaching for five years, great profession, you get out of it what you put into it.......

jayman_37
04-23-2006, 08:45 PM
Just graduated with an elementary ed. degree. I also just found out friday that I have a job teaching fourth grade. The kids are great and it can be a great time. Just from the time I have spent in the classroom subbing and student teaching, I know what a great impact teachers have on students.

broncohaven
04-23-2006, 08:48 PM
I've considered teaching, but I'm not sure if I like kids enough. I'd be worried I'd kill someone. I've coached high school lacrosse, and loved it. That's the main reason I've considered the profession. I would go the private route. Much more freedom to experiment with the curriculum, and some other extra benies.

brncs_fan
04-23-2006, 09:07 PM
You may want to look into what it will take to become certified if you are not already. I know that at my school if you have your BA already, it is only a few classes instead of the whole load if you go straight through.

Certification is a must though under the No Child Left Behind act though as it requires all teachers to be certified in whatever they teach. I could be wrong but I believe that requires a passing grade in the Department of Eds. Content Area Exams.

Billy Clyde Puckett
04-23-2006, 10:17 PM
Dave is a teacher - you may want to PM him.

NW Bolt Fan
04-23-2006, 11:01 PM
Dude, you're a donkey fan. How much wisdom could you impart? I suggest another line of work...

BTW, much luck to you if you so embark. Brutal profession.

broncocalijohn
04-24-2006, 02:24 AM
Dude, you're a donkey fan. How much wisdom could you impart? I suggest another line of work...

BTW, much luck to you if you so embark. Brutal profession.

I agree you might have to get a Bolt fan to actually put down his bong and learn something other than bud and waves (that's all i need) --Spicoli

My wife is a teacher and there are some great rewards there but so many parents just dont care. She teaches where they get some illegal alien kids. Those parents pretty much dont put education as a priority. Good Luck!

Hotrod
04-24-2006, 08:09 AM
Err not so sure about the teaching part but I was a HS basketball coach for awhile. Its a great experiance for both you and the kids. If you have the chance I highly recommend it.

GonzoLays
04-24-2006, 09:59 AM
Ray let me guess, your wife is a doctor?

Rock Chalk
04-24-2006, 10:09 AM
I've seriously considered teaching. My old principle from high school has offered me a job twice. You get to help teach kids and teach them to work together, lean on each other and better themselves as a coach.

I'm a conservative and don't mind leftist teachers (most of them are anyway) as long as they are fair and teach what is fact. Best teacher in high school I had was way left wing, but she was fair in the clasroom and an awesome teacher.
Its best when you have prof's/teachers on both wings.

That way you can see the idiocy of both sides and remain mostly in the middle with most logical Americans.

24champ
04-24-2006, 04:22 PM
I agree you might have to get a Bolt fan to actually put down his bong and learn something other than bud and waves (that's all i need) --Spicoli

My wife is a teacher and there are some great rewards there but so many parents just dont care. She teaches where they get some illegal alien kids. Those parents pretty much dont put education as a priority. Good Luck!
I always thought spicoli was hilarious Ha!


Brother:My brother's gonna kill us! He's gonna kill us! He's gonna kill you and he's gonna kill me, he's gonna kill us!
Jeff Spicoli: Hey man, just be glad I had fast reflexes!
Jefferson's Brother: My brother's gonna sh!t!
Jeff Spicoli: Make up your mind, dude, is he gonna sh!t or is he gonna kill us?
Jefferson's Brother: First he's gonna sh!t, then he's gonna kill us!
Jeff Spicoli: Relax, alright? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.
Hilarious!

Ray Finkle
04-24-2006, 04:34 PM
Ray let me guess, your wife is a doctor?


nope consultant....

Rock Chalk
04-24-2006, 04:44 PM
nope consultant....
#1 job.

Best pay for least amount of work.

Sassy
04-24-2006, 05:12 PM
Err not so sure about the teaching part but I was a HS basketball coach for awhile. Its a great experiance for both you and the kids. If you have the chance I highly recommend it.
I think it depends on the kids/school you're teaching in...brothers in law were both teachers...one is still teaching...one is about to open a pizza franchise...
He was also coaching high school basketball (boys) and decided he didn't want to coach anymore so they offered him junior high...he said no way and quit. He also said the hardest thing about coaching is dealing with the parents!

Dean
04-24-2006, 05:34 PM
Kaylore, as a teacher I have to tell you that it's Principal, not principle. J/K. Teaching is great if you like working with kids and presenting information. Sure, it's no big dough, but you get taken care of well with good hours, nice summers, and decent benefits. Coaching ups it a bit too. There's always ways to help the income too. We live very comfortably in Texas on 2 teacher's salaries. It can definitely be done :)

I started teaching in 1971 and have coached three sports a year almost all of those years.

The kids are great but the parents are a pain about two and a half feet below the neck.

You are right about the no big dough but at least in Wyoming it will take a big improvement this next year.

As for the time commitment, I have four preps- chemistry, physics, AP chemistry, and physical science. To do a good job you have to grade papers and prepare materials at night and over the weekends. I have to work summers to make ends meet. Each year there is more and more meaningless paperwork to do. In order to give individual help to those who need it, I am in my room between 6:30 and 6:45 each day. If I didn't coach, I would be expected to be there until 4:00. However, with coaching I am seldom home by 6:00.

I really enjoy what I do but sometimes I regret the sacrifices my family had to make for me to teach.

Think your decission over carefully. It can be the best and the worst of jobs and sometimes they both happen during the same day.

Sassy
04-24-2006, 05:46 PM
The gripe that the bro in law that is still teaching had is that the state is making the kids take more and more standarized tests so the teachers have to take time out from the regular curriculum so they can take the tests and study for them...more and more stuff crammed into too little time at too little pay...tests that are taking away from the teaching and learning.

Ray Finkle
04-24-2006, 06:12 PM
I started teaching in 1971 and have coached three sports a year almost all of those years.

The kids are great but the parents are a pain about two and a half feet below the neck.

You are right about the no big dough but at least in Wyoming it will take a big improvement this next year.

As for the time commitment, I have four preps- chemistry, physics, AP chemistry, and physical science. To do a good job you have to grade papers and prepare materials at night and over the weekends. I have to work summers to make ends meet. Each year there is more and more meaningless paperwork to do. In order to give individual help to those who need it, I am in my room between 6:30 and 6:45 each day. If I didn't coach, I would be expected to be there until 4:00. However, with coaching I am seldom home by 6:00.

I really enjoy what I do but sometimes I regret the sacrifices my family had to make for me to teach.

Think your decission over carefully. It can be the best and the worst of jobs and sometimes they both happen during the same day.


Thanks, you have given me a lot to think about.

Dean
04-24-2006, 06:21 PM
The gripe that the bro in law that is still teaching had is that the state is making the kids take more and more standarized tests so the teachers have to take time out from the regular curriculum so they can take the tests and study for them...more and more stuff crammed into too little time at too little pay...tests that are taking away from the teaching and learning.

We have national standardized tests (one full day each year) and state standardized test (two full days each year) and we have a school district "six traits of writing" (one day each nine weeks). Yes I guess you could say it takes time away from teaching.

The no child left behind act really means that no gifted child gets ahead. The required curriculum is geared to the slowest student. In my unpopular opinion, we are wasting the brightest minds of this generation. The concept is well meant but in practice it is a bureaucratic and educational nightmare. The child has no personal stake in the curriculum and so just goes through these test marking answers not caring what the correct answer is. Yet, decissions are made and schools are graded based upon the outcome of these tests. It's a joke but no one told the legislators.

RMT
04-24-2006, 07:20 PM
Teaching will be great for job security in the future as we see an ever increasing student enrollment and fewer and fewer college graduates enter the profession. With the increasing demand and smaller supply, competition for teachers is going to intensify and I see education imploding in the next 5-7 years. And I'm an optimist.

Sassy
04-24-2006, 08:27 PM
We have national standardized tests (one full day each year) and state standardized test (two full days each year) and we have a school district "six traits of writing" (one day each nine weeks). Yes I guess you could say it takes time away from teaching.

The no child left behind act really means that no gifted child gets ahead. The required curriculum is geared to the slowest student. In my unpopular opinion, we are wasting the brightest minds of this generation. The concept is well meant but in practice it is a bureaucratic and educational nightmare. The child has no personal stake in the curriculum and so just goes through these test marking answers not caring what the correct answer is. Yet, decissions are made and schools are graded based upon the outcome of these tests. It's a joke but no one told the legislators.
Exactly...

TheDave
04-24-2006, 08:38 PM
Greatest Job.... Also the hardest job. Don't worry much about the money, as long as your significant other works and you live "Reasonably" the money is fine.

What subject(s) are you going to get your endorsement in?

Ray Finkle
04-24-2006, 08:46 PM
Greatest Job.... Also the hardest job. Don't worry much about the money, as long as your significant other works and you live "Reasonably" the money is fine.

What subject(s) are you going to get your endorsement in?


Don't know yet....I am first looking at what classes/courses I would need to take but I would probably go with science/history

bombay
04-24-2006, 08:51 PM
It's great that money's not an issue. The school for which you intend to work could provide with the requirements in terms of teaching certificate, etc.

TheDave
04-24-2006, 08:53 PM
Don't know yet....I am first looking at what classes/courses I would need to take but I would probably go with science/history


JMO, go with science. 2nd highest need (behind math), plus your going to run into alot of competition for the # oh history jobs available.

On the other hand do whatever subject you like the most, it will help you convey the message a lot better if you truly enjoy the subject matter.

Good luck with it, feel free to pm me with any questions.