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Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 08:34 PM
Great news for Flyer fans.

Forsberg might be ready at the start of the season. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2516505)

Hope it's true. Good luck #21. :yep:

Breck Bronc
07-11-2006, 08:39 PM
Great news for Flyer fans.

Forsberg might be ready at the start of the season. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2516505)

Hope it's true. Good luck #21. :yep:Good. I hope he gets a full season in with the Flyers before he makes his return to Colorado for 2007-'08.

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 08:39 PM
Good. I hope he gets a full season in with the Flyers before he makes his return to Colorado for 2007-'08.

You and I are definitely on the same page. ^5

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 08:40 PM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/la-sp-kings11jul11,1,5637466.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl


Bwahaahahahahahaha! Is it a Cali thing....to sign old, washed up players?

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 08:41 PM
You and I are definitely on the same page. ^5

So why would you guys think that? And you both think he will still be playing?

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 08:43 PM
So why would you guys think that? And you both think he will still be playing?

I'd say it's more about hoping than anything else. I believe that he'll likely retire at the end of the coming season, but if he does decide to play another year, why not bring him back for one more go 'round in Colorado? Barring any more unforseen bonuses, the Avs are going to be in fine shape cap-wise next summer.

Keep hope alive. :thumbs:

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 08:48 PM
I wonder if this is how Bruins fans felt when they lost Bourque.

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 08:52 PM
I wonder if this is how Bruins fans felt when they lost Bourque.

I don't know. He was there about twice as long as Forsberg was here and was held in the same reverance as the likes of Orr and Neely. Most of them were happy to see him go somewhere to get a shot at the Cup and even happier when he won it.

Come on Mt, you know you'd weep tears of joy if Forsberg came back for one more year with the Avs. ;D

Breck Bronc
07-11-2006, 08:52 PM
I'd say it's more about hoping than anything else. I believe that he'll likely retire at the end of the coming season, but if he does decide to play another year, why not bring him back for one more go 'round in Colorado? Barring any more unforseen bonuses, the Avs are going to be in fine shape cap-wise next summer.

Keep hope alive. :thumbs:And bringing Foppa back would be without question the one thing Avalanche management can do to win back the fans they've pissed off in the 2005 and 2006 offseasons.

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 08:55 PM
And bringing Foppa back would be without question the one thing Avalanche management can do to win back the fans they've pissed off in the 2005 and 2006 offseasons.

No doubt about that. It'd buy back a lot of the good will that's been lost, that's for sure.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-11-2006, 08:56 PM
I wonder if this is how Bruins fans felt when they lost Bourque.

I don't know. Did Ray have just as many fans because of his looks rather than his play like Peter does?

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 08:58 PM
I don't know. He was there about twice as long as Forsberg was here and was held in the same reverance as the likes of Orr and Neely. Most of them were happy to see him go somewhere to get a shot at the Cup and even happier when he won it.

Come on Mt, you know you'd weep tears of joy if Forsberg came back for one more year with the Avs. ;D


I honestly don't know. It take a bit of getting used to. I think I'd be happy to have him back...but in the back of my mind, I'd still be thinking about those 2 years. :) I think it's the whole hockey fan scorned deal at play here. ;)

Just in case, I won't get rid of the jerseys yet. I haven't been able to bring myself to do anything with them, but I certainly haven't gotten them out either.

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 09:01 PM
I don't know. Did Ray have just as many fans because of his looks rather than his play like Peter does?


I don't know how true that is. I suspect that is a pot shot at me? I've never in my life picked a favorite player based on the whole looks deal. Sometimes I think women get a raw deal when they pick a fave that happens to be good looking as well.

Truthfully, I never thought he was all that great looking....now Jose on the other hand is hot....but about half worthless. Shame.

24champ
07-11-2006, 09:02 PM
Bwahaahahahahahaha! Is it a Cali thing....to sign old, washed up players?
I like what DL has done this offseason. At the halfway point last season the Kings were number 2 or 3 in the standings. There was a huge breakdown in the season with Character problems. So DL has made it a priority not to blow up the roster but rather pick up character players and veterans to mesh with the young players that we have. We have alot of young players on the team like O'sullivan, Anze Kopitar (18 years old should be VERY GOOD already getting rave reviews from our development camp this week), Konstantin Pushkarev ,Tim Gleason, Dustin Brown, Alexander Frolov and the list goes on. So DL acquired veteran character players to show these young guns how to play and work hard etc. From what im hearing the Kings will probably make another trade and possibly another signing for Lindros/Peca/Nolan etc.

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 09:03 PM
I honestly don't know. It take a bit of getting used to. I think I'd be happy to have him back...but in the back of my mind, I'd still be thinking about those 2 years. :) I think it's the whole hockey fan scorned deal at play here. ;)

Just in case, I won't get rid of the jerseys yet. I haven't been able to bring myself to do anything with them, but I certainly haven't gotten them out either.

I've always maintained the position that he's my favorite player, regardless of which jersey he's wearing. There would be no adjustment period needed for me, it'd almost be like he never left.

Anyway, this is all just speculation. Odds are he's headed back across the pond for good once this season is over anyway, so this is likely all moot.

Still, it's always nice to dream. ;D

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 09:06 PM
I've always maintained the position that he's my favorite player, regardless of which jersey he's wearing. There would be no adjustment period needed for me, it'd almost be like he never left.

Anyway, this is all just speculation. Odds are he's headed back across the pond for good once this season is over anyway, so this is likely all moot.

Still, it's always nice to dream. ;D
I know, you have always stuck to your guns on that. I guess I'm just not like that. My favorite player has to be a member of my favorite team...that's just my criteria.

It still burns my ass to no end, in case you guys couldn't tell.

Breck Bronc
07-11-2006, 09:13 PM
I like what DL has done this offseason. At the halfway point last season the Kings were number 2 or 3 in the standings. There was a huge breakdown in the season with Character problems. So DL has made it a priority not to blow up the roster but rather pick up character players and veterans to mesh with the young players that we have. We have alot of young players on the team like O'sullivan, Anze Kopitar (18 years old should be VERY GOOD already getting rave reviews from our development camp this week), Konstantin Pushkarev ,Tim Gleason, Dustin Brown, Alexander Frolov and the list goes on. So DL acquired veteran character players to show these young guns how to play and work hard etc. From what im hearing the Kings will probably make another trade and possibly another signing for Lindros/Peca/Nolan etc.Nothing like bringing in Eric & Carl Lindros for character and to help the younger players ROFL! .

24champ
07-11-2006, 09:22 PM
Nothing like bringing in Eric & Carl Lindros for character and to help the younger players ROFL! .
Funny Carl Lindros is not even involved in Eric's hockey affairs anymore....good try though Breck.:rofl:

24champ
07-11-2006, 09:28 PM
Kings 2006-07 PRE-SEASON SCHEDULE
Mon Sep 18 Ducks Anaheim Arrowhead Pond 7:30 pm
Tue Sep 19 Sharks Los Angeles STAPLES Center 7:30 pm
Sat Sep 23 Avalanche Las Vegas MGM Grand 7:30 pm
Mon Sep 25 Ducks Los Angeles STAPLES Center 7:30 pm
Fri Sep 29 Sharks San Jose HP Pavilion 7:30 pm
Sat Sep 30 Avalanche Denver Pepsi Center 6:00 pm

I Will be at that last game...
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Breck Bronc
07-11-2006, 09:29 PM
Funny Carl Lindros is not even involved in Eric's hockey affairs anymore....good try though Breck.:rofl:That's good for the Kings, then. At least they won't have to deal with that distraction during the 23 games Eric will play in next season.

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 09:32 PM
Twenty three, Breck?!! You're in a positive mood tonight. ;)

Breck Bronc
07-11-2006, 09:34 PM
Twenty three, Breck?!! You're in a positive mood tonight. ;):wiggle:

24champ
07-11-2006, 09:47 PM
That's good for the Kings, then. At least they won't have to deal with that distraction during the 23 games Eric will play in next season.
yeah I can't disagree with you there given his history but the Kings have yet to sign him, for all I know Peca could sign with us but I hear he will go to the Leafs. The Kings need one more top 6 center/forward to complete the roster.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-11-2006, 09:51 PM
I suspect that is a pot shot at me?

No, not you or any of the other female hockey fans here. More of a general statement, 950 was full of calls the first few days after he signed about distraught women that didn't know what to do now that he was gone.

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 09:54 PM
No, not you or any of the other female hockey fans here. More of a general statement, 950 was full of calls the first few days after he signed about distraught women that didn't know what to do now that he was gone.


Ahhh. Those goofy females make the rest of us look like a bunch of dumbasses when they do stuff like that.

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 10:02 PM
950 was full of calls the first few days after he signed about distraught women that didn't know what to do now that he was gone.

Ugh, don't remind me. :nono:

Tredici
07-11-2006, 10:06 PM
There are hella lot of great looking guys who lace up skates. So what? Women are supposed to be secretative about it? Cripe, I've never had an avatar but a bare assed Forsberg might warrant consideration.

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 10:08 PM
Someone may take a gal more seriously, if say their fave was....Mike Ricci. ;)

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 10:11 PM
There are hella lot of great looking guys who lace up skates.

Like this guy?

http://www.canoe.ca/NHLPlayoffImages/apr16_h5.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/27/59597531_ff07c69db0.jpg

Remember, he was once voted sexiest man in Colorado. :kiddingme ;D

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 10:12 PM
Someone may take a gal more seriously, if say their fave was....Mike Ricci. ;)

Wow, you read my mind on that one. :thumbsup:

24champ
07-11-2006, 10:13 PM
Like this guy?

http://www.canoe.ca/NHLPlayoffImages/apr16_h5.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/27/59597531_ff07c69db0.jpg

Remember, he was once voted sexiest man in Colorado. :kiddingme ;D
:spit: Hilarious!

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 10:16 PM
:spit: Hilarious!

That was my initial reaction too. Then confusion. Then self-consciousness. Then self-loathing. Then acceptance.

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 10:17 PM
Like this guy?

http://www.canoe.ca/NHLPlayoffImages/apr16_h5.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/27/59597531_ff07c69db0.jpg

Remember, he was once voted sexiest man in Colorado. :kiddingme ;D


HOT! ;)

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 10:18 PM
That was my initial reaction too. Then confusion. Then self-consciousness. Then self-loathing. Then acceptance.


So you thought he was sexy too, after a bit? :P

WABronco
07-11-2006, 10:19 PM
That was my initial reaction too. Then confusion. Then self-consciousness. Then self-loathing. Then acceptance.
I remember watching the playoffs two years ago when he was with the Sharks...and they brought that up. I was like "WTF?!?!?!?" My Dad turned and said, "WTF!?!?!?!?"

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 10:20 PM
So you thought he was sexy too, after a bit? :P

No, I accepted the fact that I'm not attractive and neither is any other man in Colorado if not a damn one of us could beat out Ricci for that title. ;D

Mtbrncofn
07-11-2006, 10:23 PM
No, I accepted the fact that I'm not attractive and neither is any other man in Colorado if not a damn one of us could beat out Ricci for that title. ;D


Gosh, you poor guys in CO. I must say, Ricci had to have rigged that thing somehow. Or the gals in CO are half blind.

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 10:38 PM
Just heard on Fox 31 News that John-Michael Liles has avoided arbitration and has signed a multi-year deal with the Avalanche. No link or details as of yet.

Breck Bronc
07-11-2006, 10:51 PM
I don't like Maria Sharapova because of her looks, but her solid ground strokes ;) .

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 11:03 PM
Sutter steps down as Flames head coach. (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20060712_001152_200)

Breck Bronc
07-11-2006, 11:07 PM
Sutter steps down as Flames head coach. (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20060712_001152_200)Wow!!!

Jori
07-11-2006, 11:23 PM
Look for the Avs to sign former DU Pioneer Mark Rycroft.

Jori
07-11-2006, 11:24 PM
Sutter steps down as Flames head coach. (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20060712_001152_200)
Tanguay may thrive in Calgary after all.

Clockwork Orange
07-11-2006, 11:26 PM
Hey Jori, I swear I'm not making up the Liles signing, regardless of the mistrustful nature of some at HF. ;D

Jori
07-11-2006, 11:32 PM
Don't worry, I believe you. Trust me, it's much worse on the Avs website forum. They wont believe anything unless it's reported by TSN.

Clockwork Orange
07-12-2006, 02:13 AM
Looks like it's a 2 year deal worth $2 million for Liles. (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nhl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23920_4838142,00.html)

$1 million per season is a pretty nice price. The Avs finally did something right. :thumbs:

Tredici
07-12-2006, 08:08 AM
Gosh, you poor guys in CO. I must say, Ricci had to have rigged that thing somehow. Or the gals in CO are half blind.

Or have a sense of humor. Which I'm sure was the real motivation behind the selection of Ricci. It's kind of hard to take a Who's the Sexiest Man contest seriously that included him as a candidate, don't y'all think?

Tredici
07-12-2006, 08:09 AM
Looks like it's a 2 year deal worth $2 million for Liles. (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nhl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23920_4838142,00.html)

$1 million per season is a pretty nice price. The Avs finally did something right. :thumbs:

Glad they kept Liles at home. Now if he didn't have look across ice and see Brisbois....

defenseman
07-12-2006, 08:13 AM
Glad they kept Liles at home. Now if he didn't have look across ice and see Brisbois....

How do you get rid of him without taking a hit? Damn Lacroix, this was a bad move..dman

Jori
07-12-2006, 09:47 AM
The only option is to find a team that is near the cap floor and dump him for a 7th rounder.

Bronx33
07-12-2006, 10:12 AM
Looks like it's a 2 year deal worth $2 million for Liles. (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nhl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23920_4838142,00.html)

$1 million per season is a pretty nice price. The Avs finally did something right. :thumbs:



Amen..........hopefully he pans out to be a franchise lifetime D man, so far so good.

Nuggets4
07-12-2006, 10:16 AM
How do you get rid of him without taking a hit? Damn Lacroix, this was a bad move..dman

http://parkwayreststop.blogspot.com/Tony%20Soprano.jpg

Bronx33
07-12-2006, 10:20 AM
How do you get rid of him without taking a hit? Damn Lacroix, this was a bad move..dman

I never wished injury on anybody buuuuuuuuutttttttttttttttttttttttttttt...;D

24champ
07-12-2006, 01:24 PM
http://www.nhl.com/schedules/index.html

schedule is out!

Ill be watching the Oct. 23 game...

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 02:08 PM
away: leafs, sens, canadians, sabres

home: caps, canes, lightning, thrashers

booooo!

although caps and thrashers aint too bad....welcome home Bob"F#$K ME!" Hartley

alkemical
07-12-2006, 02:17 PM
Hartley's a good coach. He's won at the ahl and nhl levels

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 02:20 PM
Hartley's a good coach. He's won at the ahl and nhl levels

of course he's a good coach...4 division titles, 4 straight WCF's, and a stanley cup aint too shabby.

24champ
07-12-2006, 02:20 PM
although caps and thrashers aint too bad....welcome home Bob"F#$K ME!" Hartley
What about Crawford?:D

I will be at pepsi center to cheer him on!

Oct. 23 book it!

alkemical
07-12-2006, 02:22 PM
of course he's a good coach...4 division titles, 4 straight WCF's, and a stanley cup aint too shabby.


I thought he got a bit of a raw deal in COL - i understand why it was done - but i don't think he was the 'root' of the problem.

And please, don't get into a contest of who's team is more incompotent.

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 02:23 PM
What about Crawford?:D

I will be at pepsi center to cheer him on!

Oct. 23 book it!


hopefully soon he'll be returning to his other career:

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3513/thmarcbehindcounterb4cc.jpg

24champ
07-12-2006, 02:26 PM
hopefully soon he'll be returning to his other career:

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3513/thmarcbehindcounterb4cc.jpg
LOL Im going to love it at pepsi center mixing it up with you Av fans.

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 02:26 PM
I thought he got a bit of a raw deal in COL - i understand why it was done - but i don't think he was the 'root' of the problem.

.


IMO, some players had started to tune him out in 2003 and Lacrock wasn't happy about the 3 out of 4 losses in the WCF's

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 02:28 PM
LOL Im going to love it at pepsi center mixing it up with you Av fans.


did you know the owner of the Kings has season tickets at the pepsi center? I'll try to let you know where his seats are.

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 02:29 PM
http://www.hockeytaunts.com/images/Hair%20Club%20for%20Men.jpg

24champ
07-12-2006, 02:33 PM
did you know the owner of the Kings has season tickets at the pepsi center? I'll try to let you know where his seats are.
Really? I did not know philip anschutz had season tickets, is he affiliated with the Pepsi Center or have business ties in Denver?

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 02:34 PM
Really? I did not know philip anschutz had season tickets, is he affiliated with the Pepsi Center or have business ties in Denver?

he has a home out here

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 02:38 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Anschutz

24champ
07-12-2006, 02:39 PM
he has a home out here
Interesting, let me know where he sits when you find out.

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 03:19 PM
Interesting, let me know where he sits when you find out.


a friend of my brother from high school (air Academy) was an asst. trainer for the kings (haven't heard from him since the lockout and not sure what happened after Murrey was fired) would sell them to my brother for a few bucks every year. He also gave my brother Jamie Storr's regular season catcher, blocker and leg pads a few years back just before the playoffs (I guess they like new pads for the playoffs).

Jori
07-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Avs website confirms the Liles signing. In addition the Avs re-signed Jeff Finger and signed free agent forwards Mark Rycroft, Ben Guite, and Matt Murley.

The Avs have also hired Jeff Hackett as their goaltending coach.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=586

Hercules Rockefeller
07-12-2006, 03:44 PM
Looks like I'll be at Pepsi on Oct. 25

24champ
07-12-2006, 04:09 PM
Looks like I'll be at Pepsi on Oct. 25
lets hope the Avs have a crappy week.^5

alkemical
07-12-2006, 04:15 PM
Avs website confirms the Liles signing. In addition the Avs re-signed Jeff Finger and signed free agent forwards Mark Rycroft, Ben Guite, and Matt Murley.

The Avs have also hired Jeff Hackett as their goaltending coach.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=586



haha, matt murley!

Tredici
07-12-2006, 04:33 PM
Really? I did not know philip anschutz had season tickets, is he affiliated with the Pepsi Center or have business ties in Denver?

Anschutz is from Denver. He lost the bid to buy the Avs/Nuggets and in a fit of pique bought the Kings the next day.

Tredici
07-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Jori -- I think you can appreciate this one. We now refer to Patrice as Skoula's Dad.

Hahahhahahhahaha.

Jori
07-12-2006, 04:44 PM
It ain't easy being Breezy...

Habs makes some moves. They sign Aebischer to a one year deal. They trade Richard Zednik to the Caps for a 2007 3rd round pick. They also trade a 2007 4th round pick to the Coyotes for Mike Johnson.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171134&hubname=nhl

Hercules Rockefeller
07-12-2006, 05:00 PM
They trade Richard Zednik to the Caps for a 2007 3rd round pick.

Why?

Clockwork Orange
07-12-2006, 05:15 PM
Why?

Were the Caps trying to get to the salary floor or something?

bronco militia
07-12-2006, 05:40 PM
Jori -- I think you can appreciate this one. We now refer to Patrice as Skoula's Dad.

Hahahhahahhahaha.

bwhahahahaha! perfect

Hercules Rockefeller
07-12-2006, 05:59 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171141&hubname=nhl

Samsonov to Montreal

Killericon
07-12-2006, 08:03 PM
Some of the flags in my neighborhood are at half mast today...I asked them why, and they told me about Sutter stepping down.

SoCalBronco
07-12-2006, 08:05 PM
We play at the Kings and Ducks in early November. I'll be going to both games.

Breck Bronc
07-12-2006, 08:40 PM
Another year of no Peter Forsberg or Sidney Crosby in Denver. At least we'll get our 1 in every 3 years glimpse of Ovechkin this season. Great schedule, Gary. And if Foppa retires after this year without even getting a chance to play a farewell game in Colorado I'm going to personally hire Chris Chelios to kill Bettman.

Tredici
07-12-2006, 10:17 PM
Some of the flags in my neighborhood are at half mast today...I asked them why, and they told me about Sutter stepping down.

There has to be something behind that. Why would he leave? I was hoping Jori or CO had gleaned some scuttlebutt.

Pendejo
07-12-2006, 10:18 PM
There has to be something behind that. Why would he leave? I was hoping Jori or CO had gleaned some scuttlebutt.

I don't know if it's already been posted, but I really don't care. I saw on a sports crawl today that he's staying on as the GM. Maybe he's just burnt out on coaching. The travel...et al.

Clockwork Orange
07-12-2006, 10:19 PM
The only thing being said right now is that he wanted to concentrate on the GM duties.

Being a GM must be tougher these days, a lot less guys seem all that keen on the idea of wearing multiple hats.

Jori
07-13-2006, 07:08 AM
Sutter never intended on coaching the Flames long term. This transition has been rumored for a while.

Bronx33
07-13-2006, 11:48 AM
http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=130240&hubname=

Bronx33
07-13-2006, 11:55 AM
Jori -- I think you can appreciate this one. We now refer to Patrice as Skoula's Dad.

Hahahhahahhahaha.


I repeat.......HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Bronx33
07-13-2006, 11:57 AM
High Def Hockey Fans With Comcast
Thursday, July 13, 2006
The word is INHD2 will no longer exist as of August 1st. Even though we were able to catch some OLN-HD hockey games on INHD2, this may be good news. Perhaps Comcast is going to provide a full time HD channel for each area they are in. An example is here in Detroit, Tiger games will soon be available in HD but only via Directv. Maybe Comcast is planning on televising the games on a yet to be announced HD station.
The same could hold true for each Comcast market. I would also think the OLN HD hockey games could be broadcast on this type of channel for the upcoming year.

Jori
07-13-2006, 03:29 PM
Avs re-sign Budaj, McCormick

http://coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=587

Svatos and McLean are the remaining RFAs.

Clockwork Orange
07-13-2006, 03:31 PM
Avs re-sign Budaj, McCormick

http://coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=587

Svatos and McLean are the remaining RFAs.

McLean filed for arbitration, right? I could see them walking away from whatever he's awarded.

Jori
07-13-2006, 03:47 PM
McLean filed for arbitration, right? I could see them walking away from whatever he's awarded.
Yup, wouldn't surprise me to see that happen myself.

alkemical
07-13-2006, 03:55 PM
you guys have to keep svatos or hope someone picks him up so you get some picks to stock the shelves with.

I really think abs was fine for you guys - he was no worse IMO than theodore (or no better depending on how you look at it) and would have been FAR cheaper.

Jori
07-13-2006, 04:40 PM
you guys have to keep svatos or hope someone picks him up so you get some picks to stock the shelves with.

I really think abs was fine for you guys - he was no worse IMO than theodore (or no better depending on how you look at it) and would have been FAR cheaper.
The organization clearly doesn't feel that way. In fact, if you read between the lines, they clearly blame the goaltending for the Avs "average" regular season. The Avs don't believe that Aebischer is a championship goaltender, but see the "potential" in Theodore. They are doing everything they can to get Jose back to his 2002 form; including hiring Jeff Hackett as the goaltending coach. Hackett was Theodore's backup in Montreal during his MVP season and Theodore has cited Jeff as a reason for his success that year. I'm not a Theodore fan. I'm not happy that the Avs are placing blame on the goaltending when it's clear that the defense was a bigger problem. The defense hasn't improved and the Avs are putting all their eggs in one basket (Theodore). This could really blow up in the Avs face if Theodore continues to be inconsistent. I really hope that Budaj can develop into a #1 goalie or that Billy Sauer is a diamond in the rough.

Clockwork Orange
07-13-2006, 04:45 PM
I really think abs was fine for you guys - he was no worse IMO than theodore (or no better depending on how you look at it) and would have been FAR cheaper.

I addressed this a few pages back. (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=41101&page=195)

Then there's Jose Theodore, the guy Lacroix just had to have. Forget for a minute that his performance before the trade was poor. No, focus on what he did once he got here and ask yourself this, did he do anything that David Aebischer couldn't or wouldn't have done? The answer, in my opinion, is no. He is going to do something this year that Aebischer wouldn't or couldn't have done, though. He's going to count $5.33 million against the cap. It's obvious that Quenneville didn't like Aebischer, fine. Why not let him play out the season and then just fail to qualify him and let him become a UFA? You save the cap space and you've got plenty of $$ available to find a suitable replacement. Nope, Lacroix wanted Theodore and his fat contract, so that's what we've got. A goaltender who's performed no better than the guy he replaced, but eats up considerably more cap space. Brilliant.

My feelings haven't changed.

Mtbrncofn
07-13-2006, 09:56 PM
I really think abs was fine for you guys - he was no worse IMO than theodore (or no better depending on how you look at it) and would have been FAR cheaper.

I always did too, matter of fact....better is what I thought. I really liked his feistiness too. With this whole cap crap, I wish more than ever that we'd kept him. Hopefully, Jose makes me change my tune.

SoCalBronco
07-13-2006, 09:59 PM
I always did too, matter of fact....better is what I thought. I really liked his feistiness too. With this whole cap crap, I wish more than ever that we'd kept him. Hopefully, Jose makes me change my tune.

Maybe the Avs and Jose can work something out whereby he would reduce his salary to the minimum and Paris Hilton could make up the difference in return for services rendered.


Hey, im just trying to help you guys out. :)

Mtbrncofn
07-13-2006, 10:01 PM
Ahaahahahahaaha. Funny stuff, SoCal. You smartass. Hey since she's breached the hockey world, maybe she'll move on to a younger up and comer....like Sid. ;)

SoCalBronco
07-13-2006, 10:05 PM
Ahaahahahahaaha. Funny stuff, SoCal. You smartass. Hey since she's breached the hockey world, maybe she'll move on to a younger up and comer....like Sid. ;)

Haha.......nah, the only man-whore we have on the team is Ryan Malone.

Actually, thats not even a joke, unfortuneatly. :giggle:

Clockwork Orange
07-13-2006, 10:08 PM
The biggest he-whore the Avs had just bolted for St. Louis, so I guess Theo takes that title by default.

Mtbrncofn
07-13-2006, 10:11 PM
Hinote was a whore?! Seriously? He got around? No wonder he was so popular with the ladies.

PS. Did anyone actually say the word 'he whore' out loud? I feel like watching Pooh for some reason.

Clockwork Orange
07-13-2006, 10:15 PM
Hinote was a whore?! Seriously? He got around? No wonder he was so popular with the ladies.

Yes, Danny was quite the ladies man.

http://www.cbo-boxoffice.com/full/p971.jpg

Jori
07-14-2006, 01:02 PM
Oilers re-sign Shawn Horcoff; 3 years @ 3.6 million

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171277&hubname=nhl

Laffs sign 2006 first round pick Jiri Tlusty

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171280&hubname=nhl

Caps sign Huggy Bear aka Donald Brashear

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171279&hubname=nhl

Flyers re-sign Joni Pitkanen; one year deal

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171278&hubname=nhl

Jori
07-14-2006, 03:30 PM
Sabres trade Taylor Pyatt to the Canucks for a 2007 4th round pick.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171296&hubname=

Hercules Rockefeller
07-14-2006, 06:00 PM
Caps sign Huggy Bear aka Donald Brashear

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171279&hubname=nhl


Wonder who he is there to protect?

Clockwork Orange
07-14-2006, 06:25 PM
Wonder who he is there to protect?

Who else?

Richard Zednik. ;D

SoCalBronco
07-14-2006, 07:04 PM
Malkin misses the first official day of Magnitorsk training camp. His team has been helping to hold up the official signing and transmittal of the transfer agreement after it was initially ratified about a month ago.

Killericon
07-22-2006, 06:04 PM
Hoo-boy....

David Legwand resigns for 2 years.

Lindros signs with the Stars.

Niko Kapanen traded to Atlanta, then signs for two years.

Geoff Sanderson signs with Philly.

Michall Peca signs with Toronto.

Those are the big ones.... I like the Lindros signing...Though Peca's a terrible pickup.

Jori
07-22-2006, 09:23 PM
Over/under on the number of games Lindros is in the lineup this year. I say 40.

SoCalBronco
07-22-2006, 09:48 PM
http://cdn.channel.aol.com/channels/0e/04/42d54f3c-0011b-01388-400cb8e1

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

Bettman is a STUD.

He singlehandedly saved us last week. The Penguins were very close to announcing the sale to a Canadian based group, rumored to be interested in moving the team to Hamilton, although they would work with the state on the "Plan B" (Plan A is that the Penguins casino partner, Isle of Capri winning the license, but that is extremely unlikely, thus creating the need for a Plan B, which calls for the winning casino bidder if it is not the Penguins partner, to contribute about 8 million a year for 30 years, the penguins committing 4 million a year for the same period in the form of rent, and giving up the 1 million a year in naming rights, for stadium funding; if the Penguins partner wins the casino license, there is no need for Plan B since they have already committed to picking up the 300 million tab themselves as part of their application) to keep them in Pittsburgh. They backed out right before the sale because of fears about cost-overruns of the Plan B financed stadium and because the NHL told them that they would block a move since there appears to be a viable arena plan in place.

Unfortuneatly, among the remaining four bidders in the ongoing sale of the team, the two groups who guaranteed to keep the team in Pittsburgh no matter what (Murstein/Cuban and Renacci/George Karl) have been basically been eliminated just a day ago. All that remains is Fingold who wants to move the team to KC and Gottesdiener who wants to move the team to Hartford. Fingold is the favorite. Fingold has recently started speaking in a more positive way in terms of working with the government on Plan B, but I get the feeling he still wants to move them to KC. If it weren't for Bettman now forcing him to work with the local officials, they would be gone. They still might be. He is going to be worried about cost overruns too, and will want a slightly sweeter deal than Plan B's current terms. About 4 or 5 days ago I thought there was a 95% chance the Pens would stay (in the wake of the County Executive announcing that the rival casinos had committed in writing to funding Plan B and the NHL announcing it would block a move since there appears to be a viable plan to build the arena), now its about 60% after the two hometown groups have been eliminated. Alot of us fear that Fingold is going to demand alot more than what Plan B is offering him to sink it, so that he will refuse to sign the lease and make the claim to the NHL that the plan is not really viable.

Tredici
07-22-2006, 11:00 PM
Relying on Bettman? Yikes.

Jori
07-22-2006, 11:32 PM
Hope things work out for the best SoCal; I really want the Pens to stay in Pittsburgh.

Killericon
07-22-2006, 11:52 PM
I was rooting for Cuban.

Clockwork Orange
07-23-2006, 02:37 PM
Briere awarded $5 million at arbitration. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2527682)

Bronx33
07-23-2006, 02:57 PM
http://hockeyanalysis.com/?page_id=333


Just passing on this like

Jori
07-23-2006, 03:00 PM
What a joke...Briere has never had more then 65 points in one season. Gomez will probably be awarded 6 million if Briere is getting 5. With 8 other arbitration cases upcoming for the Sabres, I'm willing to bet Briere will be wearing another uniform next season.

Clockwork Orange
07-23-2006, 03:02 PM
What a joke...Briere has never had more then 65 points in one season. Gomez will probably be awarded 6 million if Briere is getting 5. With 8 other arbitration cases upcoming for the Sabres, I'm willing to bet Briere will be wearing another uniform next season.

All the more reason to be thankful that Liles didn't go to arbitration.

Jori
07-23-2006, 03:02 PM
Habs re-sign Ryder; 1 year, 2.2 million

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172132&hubname=

Pens re-sign Orpik; two year deal

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172133&hubname=nhl

24champ
07-23-2006, 03:23 PM
sorry to hear that SOCAL, instead of moving the team to KC they should move it to Hartford JMO.

Killericon
07-23-2006, 03:24 PM
Ryder deserved more if Briere got 5 million.

Clockwork Orange
07-23-2006, 03:26 PM
It really makes me feel better about Hejduk being locked up for the next 4 years at $3.8 million per. If Briere is getting $5 million, the market is getting seriously skewed.

Jori
07-23-2006, 05:06 PM
Ryder deserved more if Briere got 5 million.
The Briere number is skewed because it was awarded by an arbitrator. The arbitration hearings started on Thursday. So far Mike York and Daniel Briere's awards have been announced. The interesting story is Scott Gomez. The Devils are already over 40 million dollars and still have Brian Gionta to re-sign. My guess is that Gomez will be awarded somewhere between 5.5 and 6 million. That means New Jersey will likely have to trade Gomez, or trade some other players to fit him under the cap.

Killericon
07-23-2006, 05:30 PM
It really makes me feel better about Hejduk being locked up for the next 4 years at $3.8 million per. If Briere is getting $5 million, the market is getting seriously skewed.

The post cap market won't be normalized for another 6 or 7 years.

Boogerboots
07-23-2006, 05:53 PM
Ryder deserved more if Briere got 5 million.

I thought that Ryder deserved more than 2.2 also, but as a Habs fan it work for me because they still got roughly 3 mill of cap space and all players are now signed for next season.

Briere's contract was nuts. According to TSN it was based on the salary contracts offered to players like Havlat. It's crap like this that makes me wonder why the NHL even had a lockout. Too bad they can't have reverse arbitration when the player sucks and the team wants to recoup some of their mis-spent money.

Hey Icon, I'm guessing you're a Flames fan.. any word on Daniel Ryder's progress at their prospects camp??

Clockwork Orange
07-23-2006, 05:55 PM
It's not all that different than before, just on a slightly smaller scale. Remember, under the old system guys like Bill Guerin and Bobby Holik were signing contracts worth $9 million per season.

Jori
07-23-2006, 06:24 PM
I thought that Ryder deserved more than 2.2 also, but as a Habs fan it work for me because they still got roughly 3 mill of cap space and all players are now signed for next season.

Briere's contract was nuts. According to TSN it was based on the salary contracts offered to players like Havlat. It's crap like this that makes me wonder why the NHL even had a lockout. Too bad they can't have reverse arbitration when the player sucks and the team wants to recoup some of their mis-spent money.
Hey Icon, I'm guessing you're a Flames fan.. any word on Daniel Ryder's progress at their prospects camp??Under the new CBA, teams do have the option of taking players to arbitration. However, no teams elected that option this year.

Clockwork Orange
07-23-2006, 06:26 PM
However, no teams elected that option this year.

And now we know why.

Killericon
07-23-2006, 06:31 PM
Hey Icon, I'm guessing you're a Flames fan.. any word on Daniel Ryder's progress at their prospects camp??
I'm a Blackhawks fan first, Flames fan second; it's close though, and the Hawks don't do much worth cheering about these days anyways.

Right now, he's got an invite to the Canadian National Junior Team Development Camp...He won't be on our roster for another year or two yet, though.

Mtbrncofn
07-23-2006, 07:27 PM
Over/under on the number of games Lindros is in the lineup this year. I say 40.

Generous of you, Jori.


I'm going with 25.

alkemical
07-24-2006, 10:43 AM
Well i'm glad they resigned brooks.

Jori
07-24-2006, 11:33 AM
Recchi returns to Pittsburgh

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172200&hubname=

Kings bring back Avery

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172185&hubname=

Habs extend Bob Gainey's contract through 09-10

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172201&hubname=

alkemical
07-24-2006, 12:07 PM
also rumors the pens got petrovicky

Tredici
07-24-2006, 12:09 PM
Recchi returns to Pittsburgh

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172200&hubname=

Kings bring back Avery

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172185&hubname=

Habs extend Bob Gainey's contract through 09-10

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172201&hubname=

King's bring back Avery? Hahahahahhhahahaha. Way to go Crawford!

Bronx33
07-24-2006, 12:13 PM
King's bring back Avery? Hahahahahhhahahaha. Way to go Crawford!


BIG MISTAKE BY THE KINGS, hopefully they improve the PK they are going to need it.

Jori
07-24-2006, 01:44 PM
also rumors the pens got petrovicky
It's official now

http://www.pittsburghpenguins.com/team/press/arts/1952.0.php

alkemical
07-24-2006, 02:03 PM
Yep, i like the moves shero is doing now -

Jori
07-24-2006, 03:18 PM
Canucks sign Jan Bulis; one year, 1.3 million

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172209&hubname=

24champ
07-24-2006, 03:28 PM
BIG MISTAKE BY THE KINGS, hopefully they improve the PK they are going to need it.
I dont mind the signing, the mistake was that we paid 1.1 million for avery. Not what I expected at all, was hoping for 750,000 or 800,000 deal. I dont mind the signing because it is one year and DL said Avery is on thin ice. So one of two things will happen, Avery reaches his potential or he gets cut. Its that simple.

Tredici
07-24-2006, 05:00 PM
I dont mind the signing, the mistake was that we paid 1.1 million for avery. Not what I expected at all, was hoping for 750,000 or 800,000 deal. I dont mind the signing because it is one year and DL said Avery is on thin ice. So one of two things will happen, Avery reaches his potential or he gets cut. Its that simple.

Doesn't matter. Still counts against the C A P.

Jori
07-24-2006, 06:38 PM
Avs sign Paul Stastny and Ken Klee.

Bitter-sweet feeling in regards to Stastny. I felt he needed one more year of school and as a DU fan, this is a significant blow to their title hopes.

Clockwork Orange
07-24-2006, 06:49 PM
Avs sign Paul Stastny and Ken Klee.

Bitter-sweet feeling in regards to Stastny. I felt he needed one more year of school and as a DU fan, this is a significant blow to their title hopes.

I think you summed it up pretty well, Jori, there's mixed feelings on this one. I thought Stastny would be better off spending one more year at DU, but obviously both he and the Avs feel that he's ready to make the jump. Hopefully it's to play with the big club, as I don't see him benefitting that much playing in Albany when he could have stayed in school. I am excited at the prospect of him being in the Avs lineup this year, though. I guess we'll see.

Ken Klee? What? Was Aki Berg demanding too much money? Talk about your useless, over the hill signings......but then the Avs have become famous for that in the last two years. ::)

Clockwork Orange
07-24-2006, 06:54 PM
Avs official site confirms the Stastny signing. (http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=588)

“Paul brings a great deal of speed, skill and potential to the organization,” said Avalanche Executive Vice President & General Manager Francois Giguere. “Obviously his college accomplishments speak for themselves and we look forward to watching him continue to develop.”

If they stick him in the minors, I'm going to be three shades of pissed off. Expect a full-scale meltdown from me if that happens.

Jori
07-24-2006, 07:17 PM
Avs official site confirms the Stastny signing. (http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=588)

“Paul brings a great deal of speed, skill and potential to the organization,” said Avalanche Executive Vice President & General Manager Francois Giguere. “Obviously his college accomplishments speak for themselves and we look forward to watching him continue to develop.”

If they stick him in the minors, I'm going to be three shades of pissed off. Expect a full-scale meltdown from me if that happens.
You wont be the only one who is pissed. Imagine how George Gwozdecky is feeling right now. Sign the kid and then stick him in the AHL? Thank goodness Tyler Ruegsegger came in a year early.

Still unless they dump Turgeon, I'm not sure where Paul is going to fit. Though on the bright side, we could potentially have three Pioneers in the lineup this year with Laaksonen, Stastny and Rycroft :thumbs:

Breck Bronc
07-24-2006, 07:35 PM
I can't believe Statsny signed. The upcoming Pioneers season just went drastically downhill. I was so hoping to see DU play at the Pepsi Center for the 2007 West Regional, but now that looks like a remote possibility without Stats.

Clockwork Orange
07-24-2006, 07:54 PM
I can't believe Statsny signed. The upcoming Pioneers season just went drastically downhill. I was so hoping to see DU play at the Pepsi Center for the 2007 West Regional, but now that looks like a remote possibility without Stats.

Stastny, Carle & Gauthier are now gone from last years team. That's a serious exodus of talent.

I'm happy for Stastny, I really am and I'll be even happier if he makes the big club. But I feel bad for Coach Gwoz as he's been put in kind of a pickle now that his best player has jumped ship.

Wolski & Stastny on a line together is a pretty intriguing proposition, though. :yep:

I wonder if they're considering signing TJ Hensick out of Michigan.

Jori
07-24-2006, 07:55 PM
It hurts big time, but DU can still make the tournament if the freshmen can contribute and the goaltending is more consistent. One thing this year's squad had that last year's didn't was depth. Luckily for Denver, NoDak, CC and Wisconsin have also suffered losses and it's a strong possibility that Kessel will sign with the Bruins.

What's funny was that I was about to pay for my West Regional/ FF tickets. I'm still going to buy them. Regardless of whether Denver is in the tourney or not, it's still a great experience to go to one these tournaments.

Breck Bronc
07-24-2006, 08:15 PM
It hurts big time, but DU can still make the tournament if the freshmen can contribute and the goaltending is more consistent. One thing this year's squad had that last year's didn't was depth. Luckily for Denver, NoDak, CC and Wisconsin have also suffered losses and it's a strong possibility that Kessel will sign with the Bruins.

What's funny was that I was about to pay for my West Regional/ FF tickets. I'm still going to buy them. Regardless of whether Denver is in the tourney or not, it's still a great experience to go to one these tournaments.I don't think losing Statsny this year will hurt as much as Skinner last year because the forward corps is deeper this season than the defense last season. Still, this is a huge loss for the Pios, as we all know. Last year it seemed like it was Carle, Statsny and Dingle that did all the scoring. Only Dingle is left. Ouch.

I'll still be going to the 2007 regional and 2008 Frozen Four. I wouldn't miss those for the world.

Breck Bronc
07-24-2006, 08:17 PM
I wonder if they're considering signing TJ Hensick out of Michigan.I was conviced that Hensick would sign with the Avs before Statsny.

Jori
07-24-2006, 08:19 PM
I agree, the forward depth is much better then last year. I'm really excited to see Rakhshani, Ruegsegger and a healthy Brock Trotter.

Jori
07-24-2006, 08:24 PM
I was conviced that Hensick would sign with the Avs before Statsny.
I was too. I think of the 05 picks, Stastny is the most ready.

Fritsche might be a possible signing as well. There was a rumor that he was going to bolt to the OHL after this past World Junior Championships.

Killericon
07-24-2006, 10:30 PM
We've done an NFL draft, and we're doing an MLB draft; why not an NHL one?

I started one in the NHL forum if anyone's interested. Thought I'd mention it.

SoCalBronco
07-24-2006, 11:15 PM
Recchi returns to Pittsburgh

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172200&hubname=



What a ****ing joke.

Clockwork Orange
07-25-2006, 12:46 AM
I wonder if Stastny will be able to talk Liles out of #26? It'd be pretty cool to see him wearing his father's number in the pros.

Killericon
07-25-2006, 12:55 AM
What a ****ing joke.

Why's that?

Of course, his beef with Crosby could pop up again.

Mtbrncofn
07-25-2006, 01:00 AM
So I was reading ESPN the Mag today and was in Stu Scott's little section. Someone asked who was the best captain ever He said Messier. With Stevie Y second.

Stevie would have gotten my nod over Messier.....or am I retarded? ( No one answer that last part honestly. I couldn't take the truth right now. )

SoCalBronco
07-25-2006, 01:02 AM
Why's that?

Of course, his beef with Crosby could pop up again.

We don't need a washed up troublemaker like Recchi. And he was like -30 or something during his time with the Penguins last year.

Clockwork Orange
07-25-2006, 01:05 AM
Stevie would have gotten my nod over Messier.....or am I retarded?

You're not, Stuart Scott is.

Did that article look anything like this?

Q: Stuart, who was the best captain in hockey history?

A: Well Stevie wizz-Y was off the heezy for the sheezy and cool as the other side of the pizz-illow but Mess was just crazy whack funky the rizzal foshizzle manizzle wizzle popizzle banana fana fo fizzle, me mi mo mizzle. Booya!

Pendejo
07-25-2006, 01:11 AM
So I was reading ESPN the Mag today and was in Stu Scott's little section. Someone asked who was the best captain ever He said Messier. With Stevie Y second.

Stevie would have gotten my nod over Messier.....or am I retarded? ( No one answer that last part honestly. I couldn't take the truth right now. )

I f'ing hate the Detroit Red Wings. I simply hate them. During the 2002 playoffs when the Avs should have doubled up...I was screaming for the Avs as a whole to put the body to an obviously crippled Yzerman.

I hate the Red Wings....but when it comes to my personal who do you want on your team list...Stevie Y is right up there with the great John Elway...

Joe Sakic will retire in his league though...they're similar types of guys...

I loved to hate Stevie Y.

Mtbrncofn
07-25-2006, 01:16 AM
You're not, Stuart Scott is.

Did that article look anything like this?

Q: Stuart, who was the best captain in hockey history?

A: Well Stevie wizz-Y was off the heezy for the sheezy and cool as the other side of the pizz-illow but Mess was just crazy whack funky the rizzal foshizzle manizzle wizzle popizzle banana fana fo fizzle, me mi mo mizzle. Booya!


Hilarious! I needed a laugh, CO. Thanks.

Mtbrncofn
07-25-2006, 01:18 AM
I f'ing hate the Detroit Red Wings. I simply hate them. During the 2002 playoffs when the Avs should have doubled up...I was screaming for the Avs as a whole to put the body to an obviously crippled Yzerman.

I hate the Red Wings....but when it comes to my personal who do you want on your team list...Stevie Y is right up there with the great John Elway...

Joe Sakic will retire in his league though...they're similar types of guys...

I loved to hate Stevie Y.


I hate the Winger Dingers as much as the next Avs fan, but I have all the respect in the world for Stevie. Its hard to hate a guy like him. And yes I wholeheartedly agree, Joe should be in that class too. Of course I'm biased. ;)

Pendejo
07-25-2006, 02:30 AM
I hate the Winger Dingers as much as the next Avs fan, but I have all the respect in the world for Stevie. Its hard to hate a guy like him. And yes I wholeheartedly agree, Joe should be in that class too. Of course I'm biased. ;)

You're not biased at all Mt...you just understand greatness. Super Joe and Stevie Y are very comparable...a la they both kick ass.

Nuggets4
07-25-2006, 02:08 PM
EJ Hradek's blog about the Avs:

Do you ever get the feeling you walked into the room about five minutes too late? That's how new Avalanche GM Francois Giguere might feel.

The Avs, a league power since the mid-1990s, are transitioning into the salary cap era. Last summer, they waived goodbye to longtime stars Peter Forsberg and Adam Foote, who both bolted via free agency. This summer, Colorado lost Rob Blake, who signed a free-agent deal with the Kings. Veteran grinder Dan Hinote also skipped town, signing a three-year deal in St. Louis. In the pre-cap NHL, the Avs likely would have re-signed all four players.

Giguere's first major trade also had salary cap implications. On draft day, he sent high-scoring winger Alex Tanguay to the Flames for defenseman Jordan Leopold. The club just couldn't afford to pay Tanguay, who would've eventually followed other stars out of Denver. Fortunately, Leopold is a solid defender who'll help fill the void left by Blake's departure.

Captain Joe Sakic re-upped for another season. Barring something unforeseen, Sakic appears to be the only star from the club's glory days that will finish out his career with the Avs. Sakic, who turned 37 earlier in the month, still has game. In 2005-06, he was the team's leading scorer, posting 87 points while playing in all 82 games. In the playoffs, Sakic's strong play keyed the Avs' first-round upset of the Stars.

Despite the departure of Tanguay, the Avs still should be able to light the lamp. (Sorry about that cliché, but sometimes I just can't help it.) Right wings Milan Hejduk and Marek Svatos are very good in the offensive zone and veteran left wings Andrew Brunette and Steve Konowalchuk do a nice job below the dots. Brunette has a nose for the net, while Konowalchuk returns after missing most of the season with a wrist injury.

With a need for a second center, Giguere took a one-year ($950,000) flier on free-agent pivot Tyler Arnason. The 27-year-old Arnason was a bust with the Senators after the club acquired him from the Blackhawks at the trade deadline. Arnason enjoyed his best year during the 2003-04 season, scoring 22 goals and 55 points in Chicago. With his career on the line, Arnason will have to perform or spend a lot of time on a minor league. Perhaps, that's just the kind of urgency he needs.

Of course, Giguere's success or failure likely will rest on the shoulders of goaltender Jose Theodore. The former Habs star was acquired by longtime GM Pierre Lacroix -- who remains as club president -- just a day before the trade deadline. Can Theodore regain the form that helped him win the Hart and Vezina trophies in 2002? If he can, the Avs again will compete for a playoff spot. If he struggles, Giguere's first season as GM might coincide with the club's first season without a playoff berth since 1994.

Like I said, sometimes you feel like you walked in the room a little too late.

Tredici
07-25-2006, 02:17 PM
Right wings Milan Hejduk and Marek Svatos are very good in the offensive zone.

EJ knows something we don't? Well, we know Svatos is good in the offensive zone. We just don't know for what team....

Clockwork Orange
07-25-2006, 02:23 PM
EJ knows something we don't? Well, we know Svatos is good in the offensive zone. We just don't know for what team....

Or for how long before he has a shoulder go south on him.

Jori
07-25-2006, 03:12 PM
Billion Dollar Eddie signs a one year deal with the Panthers

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172336&hubname=

Ales Hemsky re-signs with the Oilers. It's a six year deal. No report on the dollar figures, but it's rumored to be four million per year. Nice to see a player take a cap friendly deal to help out his club.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172338&hubname=

Sharks sign Mark Bell and Christian Ehrhoff

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172333&hubname=

Jori
07-25-2006, 07:09 PM
Gomez awarded 5 million

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172350&hubname=

A bit surprising considering that's the same amount Briere received. I thought Scott would get 5.5+. The Devils will be making trades as they still have to sign Brian Gionta (48 goals last year) and David Hale. If they accept the Gomez ruling, it will put them at 46 million.

Jori
07-25-2006, 07:19 PM
Hemsky receives 24.6 million over six years. A nice cap friendly contract.

Tredici
07-25-2006, 07:49 PM
Billion Dollar Eddie signs a one year deal with the Panthers

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172336&hubname=

Ales Hemsky re-signs with the Oilers. It's a six year deal. No report on the dollar figures, but it's rumored to be four million per year. Nice to see a player take a cap friendly deal to help out his club.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172338&hubname=

Sharks sign Mark Bell and Christian Ehrhoff

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172333&hubname=

Only one thing wrong with Eddie signing in Florida. I will miss the chance to hear all the Wing fans suddenly have to do a 360 to realign their loyalties. Now they'll probably get Hasek back and we've already lived through that spin.

Clockwork Orange
07-25-2006, 08:03 PM
Gomez awarded 5 million

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172350&hubname=

A bit surprising considering that's the same amount Briere received. I thought Scott would get 5.5+. The Devils will be making trades as they still have to sign Brian Gionta (48 goals last year) and David Hale. If they accept the Gomez ruling, it will put them at 46 million.

Buh bye Scotty, no way they're gonna choose to keep you and trade Gionta.

It's a bit refreshing to know that we're not the only ones who screwed ourselves with dead money on the cap.

Mtbrncofn
07-25-2006, 10:51 PM
Only one thing wrong with Eddie signing in Florida. I will miss the chance to hear all the Wing fans suddenly have to do a 360 to realign their loyalties. Now they'll probably get Hasek back and we've already lived through that spin.

I was so hoping the Wings were going to get him too. Darnit.

Mtbrncofn
07-25-2006, 10:53 PM
Right wings Milan Hejduk and Marek Svatos are very good in the offensive zone.

EJ knows something we don't? Well, we know Svatos is good in the offensive zone. We just don't know for what team....


Man I would be bummed if Svatos left.

Jori
07-26-2006, 06:18 AM
Devils will accept the award ruling in the Gomez case.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/devils/gomez_scores_in_arbitration_devils_mark_everson.ht m

Not a surprise, this just means Gomez wont become a UFA. He could still be on the move, or perhaps NJ trades a guy like Rafalski. Nevertheless, the Devils will be making some moves.

alkemical
07-26-2006, 08:04 AM
Man I would be bummed if Svatos left.


He's good but he's fragile. He's made for the new NHL though. Your team hurt itself when it traded youth & prospects for older (albiet very very good) talent (for the most part, every GM makes some bad moves).

If you had cap space it wouldn't be an issue - but you guys might have to bite it for a year or two.

bronco militia
07-26-2006, 08:22 AM
He's good but he's fragile. He's made for the new NHL though. Your team hurt itself when it traded youth & prospects for older (albiet very very good) talent (for the most part, every GM makes some bad moves).

If you had cap space it wouldn't be an issue - but you guys might have to bite it for a year or two.

it would help if our former GM had a clue about the CBA and salary cap

Jori
07-26-2006, 08:27 AM
It'll be tough this year, but things will open up after this season. The Avs have about 16 million of cap space committed to 7 players for 07-08. All the bad contracts (except for Theodore's) will be off the books and those damn bonuses will be gone. Young players like Wolski and Stastny will start to emerge. I'm fully ready to accept that the Avs may stumble and miss the playoffs next year. A top 15 pick in a deep draft isn't the end of the world. They need to rebuild their prospect system and the last three drafts have really helped that effort. Wolski, Richardson, and Stastny are just the tip of the iceberg.

alkemical
07-26-2006, 09:01 AM
it would help if our former GM had a clue about the CBA and salary cap


You could always go after Craig Patrick..... hehehe

alkemical
07-26-2006, 09:05 AM
Hey i know guys - look Craig Patrick screwed the pens when he could only take Kris Beech and a lot of cash for jagr. He could have parlayed some draft picks some prospects and some cash - but he didn't. Or none would take him, either/or.

But you guys got some good guys, you got a well rounded. So it won't be "pensville" for you guys.


I don't think Malkin will be here this year. :(

Jori
07-26-2006, 09:19 AM
Wings sign Danny Markov

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172414&hubname=

alkemical
07-26-2006, 09:23 AM
Wings sign Danny Markov

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172414&hubname=


Damn, that's not a bad deal.

Jori
07-26-2006, 03:55 PM
Just to update the Markov signing, it's a one year deal worth 2.5 million.

Laffs sign Belak to an extension.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172449&hubname=nhl

Senators and Chris Neil avoid arbitration. Neil re-signs for 3 years/ 3.3 million.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172449&hubname=nhl

Tomas Vokoun is cleared to play hockey again.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172246&hubname=nhl

Ryan Malone receives a two-year deal from the arbitrator. He will receive 1.3 million for 06-07 and 1.45 for 07-08.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172246&hubname=nhl

Capitals avoid arbitration with Matt Bradley; sign him to a two year deal.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172439&hubname=nhl

JayBo receives 4.35 million over two years from the arbitrator.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172439&hubname=nhl

Sens sign Jaime Allison and Cory Pecker--per Sportsnet

Gotta love a guy whose last name is Pecker.

Killericon
07-26-2006, 05:02 PM
JayBo would get more on the open market; the Panthers should be happy.

Mtbrncofn
07-26-2006, 10:56 PM
JayBo would get more on the open market; the Panthers should be happy.


Agreed.

Jori
07-27-2006, 03:49 PM
Kyle Calder awarded $2.95 million.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172550&hubname=nhl

Toni Lydman and Jason Pominville re-sign with the Sabres. Lydman agrees to a 4 year/ $11.5 million dollar deal. Pominville signed a 3 year/ $3.1 million dollar dear.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172507&hubname=nhl

Red Wings re-sign Jason Williams to a two year deal.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172542&hubname=nhl

Flames sign D Brad Ference.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172523&hubname=nhl

Lightning re-sign Cory Sarich; one year/ $1.9 million.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172522&hubname=nhl

Devils accept Gomez's award

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2531331

DivineLegion
07-27-2006, 03:55 PM
How can the Devils take Gomezs reward when they are so far over the Cap?

Clockwork Orange
07-27-2006, 04:14 PM
How can the Devils take Gomezs reward when they are so far over the Cap?

As far as I know, teams are allowed to be over the cap during the offseason so long as they get under by opening day. They can accept Gomez's award, but then they'll either have to trade him or trim salary elsewhere before the season starts.

Jori
07-27-2006, 05:19 PM
Clockwork's right. Teams are allowed to go 10% over the cap during the offseason, but have to be under the cap ceiling before opening night. New Jersey will have to make trades in order to get under the cap. Likely, you could see them trading with teams with plenty of cap room. As an incentive, the Devils will probably have to throw in a draft pick or prospect.

alkemical
07-27-2006, 09:08 PM
If i were PHX i'd make a trade with nagy to go to NJ - PHX could use gomez.

Killericon
07-27-2006, 09:24 PM
Now the Flames have 2 sets of brothers on defense. How touching...I doubt Brad and Andrew are brothers though.

Jori
07-31-2006, 10:38 AM
Hasek returns to Detroit

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172903&hubname=nhl (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172903&hubname=nhl)

Doesn't look like Biron, Giguere or Nabokov are going anywhere anytime soon.

bronco militia
07-31-2006, 10:41 AM
wow that sucks.....if he stays healthy

Mtbrncofn
07-31-2006, 08:57 PM
Bwahahahahahaa. I think this is great. The dumbinator returns to Chokeytown. Let's just hope his recent ways keep up. ;D

Killericon
07-31-2006, 09:00 PM
Hasek returns to Detroit

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172903&hubname=nhl (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172903&hubname=nhl)

Doesn't look like Biron, Giguere or Nabokov are going anywhere anytime soon.

Nabokov and Gigure are gonna be moved...Biron can wait.

There's always St. Louis.

Jori
08-01-2006, 04:50 PM
More bad news for the Avs...

Leopold out for three months after surgery.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173007&hubname=nhl

Jori
08-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Sabres and Afinogenov agree to a three year deal; avoid arbitration.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173003&hubname=

Pens sign Dominic Moore to a two-year deal

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173005&hubname=nhl

Predators re-sign Scott Hartnell; one year/ 1.75 million

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172998&hubname=nhl

Caps re-sign Matt Pettinger to a three year deal

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=172929&hubname=nhl

Mtbrncofn
08-02-2006, 09:29 AM
More bad news for the Avs...

Leopold out for three months after surgery.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173007&hubname=nhl


Just ****in' fabulous.

Jori
08-02-2006, 10:11 AM
It looks like Leopold will miss around 10 games. My only concern is his conditioning once he returns.

SoCalBronco
08-03-2006, 12:15 PM
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_464511.html

Pens, Malkin's agent opening talks


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By Karen Price
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, August 3, 2006


No transfer deal, no problem.
Despite the Russian Ice Hockey Federation's refusal to sign a deal that would allow its players to leave for the NHL, the Penguins and Evgeni Malkin's agent are opening contract negotiations, and the top prospect should be in the lineup on opening night.

"The (NHL) announced that clubs would be free to sign players given that (Russia has) not been able to agree to a transfer agreement, and, as a result, we're going to move ahead and negotiate with Pittsburgh," Malkin's agent, Don Meehan, said Wednesday. "That's a priority for us now."

The NHL gave the Russian Ice Hockey Federation until Monday to sign a transfer deal that was negotiated and ratified in June after president Vladislav Tretiak and general director Sergey Arutyunyan traveled to the United States to meet with deputy commissioner Bill Daly and commissioner Gary Bettman.





Daly confirmed yesterday that they were moving ahead without Russia on board with the other European countries that signed the transfer agreement last summer.

"There is no longer a possibility of an agreement this year that will involve the Russian Federation joining our existing player transfer agreement," Daly said.

But, Daly added, that does not necessarily mean that Russian players cannot come to the NHL.

"If the player can secure his own release, either pursuant to the terms of his existing Russian contract or pursuant to applicable Russian law, NHL clubs will be free to sign such player, and the resulting NHL contract will be registered and approved as valid for play in the NHL," Daly said.

Malkin is under contract to his Russian team, Metallurg Magnitogorsk, through 2008. But a provision in Russian labor law allows employees to leave their jobs whether a contract exists or not after giving two weeks' written notice.

Malkin has already given such notice, Meehan said yesterday.

"We have followed the provision under that law, and we've given the appropriate notice," said Meehan, who said that he spoke with Penguins general manager Ray Shero yesterday. "Now, the next step after that would be to negotiate with Pittsburgh."

It turns out that Malkin is the primary reason why the Russians wouldn't sign the deal.

The existing transfer agreement between the IIHF and NHL calls for a fixed transfer fee of $200,000 for each player who leaves his European team for the NHL. Ultimately, that figure was simply not acceptable to the Russian Federation when it came to Malkin.

"Evgeni Malkin is a Russian hockey star," Arutyunyan said through a translator from the Federation yesterday. "We deem that the payment for his transfer has to be more than $200,000 dollars. But (the) NHL doesn't want to do that."

There is a chance that Magnitogorsk will attempt to sue either Malkin or the Penguins despite his notification that he is leaving.

"Russian clubs will have legal proceedings against NHL clubs in courts if NHL clubs sign contracts with Russian players who have valid contracts with Russian clubs," Arutyunyan said.

Last year, Washington Capitals rookie Alexander Ovechkin was sued by his former team in Russia, Moscow Dynamo, which tried to have the U.S. District Court in Washington enforce a Russian arbitration board's ruling that Ovechkin had to honor his contract through 2005-06.

But that lawsuit was dismissed by the judge, who ruled that his court did not have jurisdiction to enforce the Russian board's ruling.

"The fact that a Russian team may sue doesn't necessarily mean they have a valid claim," Daly said.

Meehan said he expects to negotiate the contract, which as an entry-level deal is capped at $984,200 plus bonuses under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, over the next week.

Malkin, 20, was the Penguins' top pick and the second pick overall in 2004. He is considered the best player outside of the NHL and last year was third in scoring in the Russian Elite League. He is expected to the Penguins' No. 2 center behind second-year star Sidney Crosby.


Karen Price can be reached at kprice@tribweb.com.

Mtbrncofn
08-03-2006, 12:20 PM
It looks like Leopold will miss around 10 games. My only concern is his conditioning once he returns.

I guess that's somewhat of a relief. What about Kono? Any word on if he's all the way back now?

alkemical
08-03-2006, 12:29 PM
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_464511.html

Pens, Malkin's agent opening talks


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No transfer deal, no problem.
Despite the Russian Ice Hockey Federation's refusal to sign a deal that would allow its players to leave for the NHL, the Penguins and Evgeni Malkin's agent are opening contract negotiations, and the top prospect should be in the lineup on opening night.

"The (NHL) announced that clubs would be free to sign players given that (Russia has) not been able to agree to a transfer agreement, and, as a result, we're going to move ahead and negotiate with Pittsburgh," Malkin's agent, Don Meehan, said Wednesday. "That's a priority for us now."

The NHL gave the Russian Ice Hockey Federation until Monday to sign a transfer deal that was negotiated and ratified in June after president Vladislav Tretiak and general director Sergey Arutyunyan traveled to the United States to meet with deputy commissioner Bill Daly and commissioner Gary Bettman.





Daly confirmed yesterday that they were moving ahead without Russia on board with the other European countries that signed the transfer agreement last summer.

"There is no longer a possibility of an agreement this year that will involve the Russian Federation joining our existing player transfer agreement," Daly said.

But, Daly added, that does not necessarily mean that Russian players cannot come to the NHL.

"If the player can secure his own release, either pursuant to the terms of his existing Russian contract or pursuant to applicable Russian law, NHL clubs will be free to sign such player, and the resulting NHL contract will be registered and approved as valid for play in the NHL," Daly said.

Malkin is under contract to his Russian team, Metallurg Magnitogorsk, through 2008. But a provision in Russian labor law allows employees to leave their jobs whether a contract exists or not after giving two weeks' written notice.

Malkin has already given such notice, Meehan said yesterday.

"We have followed the provision under that law, and we've given the appropriate notice," said Meehan, who said that he spoke with Penguins general manager Ray Shero yesterday. "Now, the next step after that would be to negotiate with Pittsburgh."

It turns out that Malkin is the primary reason why the Russians wouldn't sign the deal.

The existing transfer agreement between the IIHF and NHL calls for a fixed transfer fee of $200,000 for each player who leaves his European team for the NHL. Ultimately, that figure was simply not acceptable to the Russian Federation when it came to Malkin.

"Evgeni Malkin is a Russian hockey star," Arutyunyan said through a translator from the Federation yesterday. "We deem that the payment for his transfer has to be more than $200,000 dollars. But (the) NHL doesn't want to do that."

There is a chance that Magnitogorsk will attempt to sue either Malkin or the Penguins despite his notification that he is leaving.

"Russian clubs will have legal proceedings against NHL clubs in courts if NHL clubs sign contracts with Russian players who have valid contracts with Russian clubs," Arutyunyan said.

Last year, Washington Capitals rookie Alexander Ovechkin was sued by his former team in Russia, Moscow Dynamo, which tried to have the U.S. District Court in Washington enforce a Russian arbitration board's ruling that Ovechkin had to honor his contract through 2005-06.

But that lawsuit was dismissed by the judge, who ruled that his court did not have jurisdiction to enforce the Russian board's ruling.

"The fact that a Russian team may sue doesn't necessarily mean they have a valid claim," Daly said.

Meehan said he expects to negotiate the contract, which as an entry-level deal is capped at $984,200 plus bonuses under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, over the next week.

Malkin, 20, was the Penguins' top pick and the second pick overall in 2004. He is considered the best player outside of the NHL and last year was third in scoring in the Russian Elite League. He is expected to the Penguins' No. 2 center behind second-year star Sidney Crosby.


Karen Price can be reached at kprice@tribweb.com.



awesome!

Jori
08-03-2006, 12:29 PM
Kono's good to go.

Just need to get Svatos signed, our roster is pretty much set.

Mtbrncofn
08-03-2006, 12:32 PM
Great! So when should we hear GOOD news on Svatos?

alkemical
08-03-2006, 01:13 PM
Man Malkin, crosby, whitney, brooks, fluery - this team is shaping up to be dangerous!

SoCalBronco
08-03-2006, 01:31 PM
Man Malkin, crosby, whitney, brooks, fluery - this team is shaping up to be dangerous!

The fight isnt over yet. It was nice to see Evgeni give the 2 weeks notice, but I think the Russians might play that 2 year military service card. We really need to get him over here pronto. He literally needs to get on a plane with his family TODAY.

I'm not the only one unnerved at the comment of Metallurg's GM Velichin a few weeks ago when he said that Malkin would not give the notice because he's a "smart guy....a decent guy".

And the RSL has a long history of being affiliated with organized crime. They need to get him AND his family on a plane to Pittsburgh NOW!!!!

alkemical
08-03-2006, 01:34 PM
SoCal,

i believe the pens if they can net him, will - and they have even offered compensation for the contract (don't know how much) -


I wonder if this is also part of the hang up on the WTO as well -

Jori
08-04-2006, 10:53 AM
Avs re-sign McLean to a one year deal, avoid arbitration.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=592

Jori
08-04-2006, 12:54 PM
Coyotes re-sign Mike Comrie; one year/ 3 million.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173286&hubname=nhl (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173286&hubname=nhl)

Eric Weinrich retires; joins Ducks AHL affiliate, Portland Pirates, as an assistant coach.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173285&hubname=nhl

Mika Noronen leaves NHL to play in Russia

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173282&hubname=nhl

Jori
08-04-2006, 03:42 PM
RDS is reporting that the Flyers have traded Michal Handzus to Chicago for Kyle Calder.

http://rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/210006.html

Jori
08-11-2006, 11:59 AM
Sykora is an Oiler

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173939&hubname=

alkemical
08-11-2006, 12:02 PM
i hate russia

Jori
08-15-2006, 04:05 PM
Both TSN and Sportsnet are reporting that the Phoenix Coyotes are close to signing Owen Nolan.

There are also rumors that Phil Kessel will leave Minnesota and sign with the Boston Bruins.

24champ
08-15-2006, 04:08 PM
Jori anything on Dumont? I heard there was a slim chance he could end up in LA...

Jori
08-15-2006, 04:31 PM
From reports I have seen, Montreal is Dumont's number one choice. However, the Habs stand at about 41 million in total salaries and would want to move some salary in order to fit in Dumont. Detroit has ruled themselves out of the Dumont sweepstakes. I've heard LA is intersted, but haven't heard much else.

24champ
08-15-2006, 04:37 PM
I heard the same thing, nothing new. It would be a sweet pickup if we somehow landed Dumont.

24champ
08-15-2006, 05:11 PM
For my freinds like Jori, Clock, Mtn, and especially Tredici.:sunshine:


From THN 2006 Yearbook - Avery Interview

Avery is determined to show the world he's more than a mouthpiece. "I think it's time" he says. "Everyone knows that I'm a valuable player and I think I'm only going to do myself more justice by smartening up. I had that year and it was just one of those things that just kind of snowballed. Part of it was me just trying to get a lot of attention. I have accomplished it now and everybody knows who I am. I don't need to have the circus-like antycs anymore. I'm still going to play the same way. I'm going to play hard, but I'd like to drop my penalty minutes by at least 100."

"I think I'm going to get better. I'm really excited. My numbers have been better every year I played. I want to get 60 points this season. 50 points is a given for me. I don't even mind being a checker. When you're playing against the other team's top line, they usually aren't that good defensively, so you're going to get your scoring chances. I like that more than playing against the other team's checking line. I think I have always played better when I am given responsibilities."


cant wait to see the reaction...Ha!

Jori
08-16-2006, 04:20 PM
Avs release rookie camp roster.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=597

Jori
08-16-2006, 11:21 PM
ESPN's EJ Hradek is reporting that Phil Kessel has signed a three year deal with the Boston Bruins; forgoing the final three years of his college eligibility.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2552030

Killericon
08-17-2006, 12:17 AM
Rumour about Malkin to Montreal in return for Ryder, Ribeiro, Souray, Aebischer and a first-round pick. Look like the Pens are trying to avoid all this scandal.

Linky. (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=2621)

While I make it a point to not trust Ekland, it was also on ESPNRadio.

Montreal fans would riot, I think...and the Penguins would make the playoffs.

SoCalBronco
08-17-2006, 12:21 AM
Rumour about Malkin to Montreal in return for Ryder, Ribeiro, Souray, Aebischer and a first-round pick.

Linky. (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=2621)

While I make it a point to not trust Ekland, it was also on ESPNRadio.

Montreal fans would riot, I think...and the Penguins would make the playoffs.

It is a garbage rumor.....Shero is not that dumb. We didnt go through all of this **** to now trade him.

Malkin is a perennial all-star player and is going to be the best two way center in the entire league for the next 15 years. The rumor makes zero sense. We cant even afford all those guys anyway.

I'd personally burn Shero's ****ing house down. It makes ZERO sense whatsoever. We are all set to have the best center combo in the league and we have been working our asses off to get him over here. There is NO way this is even legit.

Killericon
08-17-2006, 12:38 AM
Malkin is a perennial all-star player and is going to be the best two way center in the entire league for the next 15 years.
You wish. He's not Crosby or anything...He'll be good...but not Hall of fame good, or anything like that.

In any case, I can't believe you think it'd be a BAD trade for the Pens...****, I'd do it for Ribeiro and Ryder alone...nevermind the pick, Souray and Aebischer.

There's one thing we can agree on though: It's not gonna happen.

The best suggestion I've heard was over on the Flames official board:

Here's an idea:

Every team submits a list of players and/or picks that they would give to the Pens in exchange for Malkin. Then a 29-team cross-country chase ensues. Whoever finds Malkin first gets to make their trade.

SoCalBronco
08-17-2006, 12:47 AM
You wish. He's not Crosby or anything...He'll be good...but not Hall of fame good, or anything like that.

In any case, I can't believe you think it'd be a BAD trade for the Pens...****, I'd do it for Ribeiro and Ryder alone...nevermind the pick, Souray and Aebischer.



He will be on the same plane as Crosby and Ovechkin. He will be a huge force.

If Colorado offered Liles, Wolski, Svatos and a 1st, I'd hope that we would turn them down quickly. This Montreal thing is a joke. That is crap value. We don't even need Aebischer.

Malkin is going to be a huge beast.

Killericon
08-17-2006, 12:57 AM
He will be on the same plane as Crosby and Ovechkin. He will be a huge force.

If Colorado offered Liles, Wolski, Svatos and a 1st, I'd hope that we would turn them down quickly. This Montreal thing is a joke. That is crap value. We don't even need Aebischer.

Malkin is going to be a huge beast.
Ryder scored 30 goals, 25 assists. Ribeiro had 16 goals and 36 assists.

Both are only 26 years old. It's a steal for the Pens.

Why do you think Malkin's going to be as good as Crosby or Ovechkin?

SoCalBronco
08-17-2006, 01:04 AM
Ryder scored 30 goals, 25 assists. Ribeiro had 26 goals and 36 assists.

Both are only 26 years old. It's a steal for the Pens.

Why do you think Malkin's going to be as good as Crosby or Ovechkin?

Because Malkin has outstanding speed on the ice, he can just glide by people. He is a goalscorer, but like Crosby has excellent vision and can be a playmaker too. He is also superior right now to both of them defensively and is a very dangerous on the PK. He is big and physical. He is just as good as those two. Ovechkin himself said, in an interview about 2 months ago, that Malkin was the best of the three, himself included.

I cant wait to have two all world centers on this team, and in a few years Staal will be ready, although I still wish Shero would have traded him for Jack Johnson. The offer was there, straight up and we refused.

Killericon
08-17-2006, 01:09 AM
Because Malkin has outstanding speed on the ice, he can just glide by people. He is a goalscorer, but like Crosby has excellent vision and can be a playmaker too. He is also superior right now to both of them defensively and is a very dangerous on the PK. He is big and physical. He is just as good as those two. Ovechkin himself said, in an interview about 2 months ago, that Malkin was the best of the three, himself included.

I cant wait to have two all world centers on this team, and in a few years Staal will be ready, although I still wish Shero would have traded him for Jack Johnson. The offer was there, straight up and we refused.

No way, man. Getting Staal was the better idea.

Well, I'm not sold that he's going to be a top 5 centre, but he'll be good. Of that there can be no doubt. Probably a year in, year out 25 goal/40 assist guy.

A lot of Selkes in his future, that's for sure.

Well, no matter who is getting ripped off in that deal, it's not going to happen.

alkemical
08-17-2006, 08:54 AM
No way, man. Getting Staal was the better idea.

Well, I'm not sold that he's going to be a top 5 centre, but he'll be good. Of that there can be no doubt. Probably a year in, year out 25 goal/40 assist guy.

A lot of Selkes in his future, that's for sure.

Well, no matter who is getting ripped off in that deal, it's not going to happen.


Nope malkin is a top player in the world right now - he's THAT DAMN GOOD -

he's been compared to being a 'mean' mario -

Hercules Rockefeller
08-17-2006, 10:27 AM
Both are only 26 years old. It's a steal for the Pens.

Why do you think Malkin's going to be as good as Crosby or Ovechkin?

Though I don't believe the Malkin hype, that he'll be on the Crosby/Ovechkin level or may even surpass one, Malkin still projects out as a franchise player. None of the players offered in that rumor come anywhere near to that level of player.

Jori
08-17-2006, 08:54 PM
Ducks trade Vitaly Vishnevski to the Thrashers.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=174554&hubname=nhl

Clockwork Orange
08-17-2006, 11:01 PM
It is a garbage rumor

That's all that needed to be said.

The Pens will not trade Malkin uness they're getting a franchise player or potential franchise player in return. Period. It will require quality, not quanitity to make that happen.

Either way, I don't see it happening. He'll be wearing a Pens uniform on opening night.

SoCalBronco
08-18-2006, 01:58 AM
Escape to L.A.


By Karen Price
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, August 18, 2006


ST. CATHARINES, Ontario - Missing Russian hockey star and Penguins prospect Evgeni Malkin surfaced in Los Angeles on Thursday -- five days after disappearing in Helsinki.
Malkin, whose whereabouts had been unknown ever since, flew to Tinseltown late Wednesday night with agent J.P. Barry and Olga McQueen, a Russian interpreter.

Turns out, Malkin, 20, was in Helsinki all along, waiting for the U.S. Embassy to reopen Monday after being closed for the weekend. He finally was able to get the necessary paperwork from Moscow and secure his visa Wednesday, and he boarded a plane that night.

"He has a visa. He's here legally. He's fine," said Pat Brisson, another of Malkin's agents who is based out of Santa Monica, Calif. "We don't have to hide him. He'll be (in Los Angeles) for a little while. It will be his home base until we move forward."





Malkin's disappearance became a matter of international intrigue after he left Metallurg Magnitogorsk, his Russian team, without warning just days after signing a new one-year contract.

His agents knew where he was, but they weren't talking, except to say that Malkin was safe and that they were in constant communication.

"If we tipped anyone he was there, it would have confused the issue," Brisson said. "People would have been trying to convince him to change his mind. He's been through enough."

One of the biggest mysteries surrounding Malkin's disappearance was why he would sign a new contract with Magnitogorsk only to leave days later.

Fellow Russian and Penguins defenseman Sergei Gonchar told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review earlier this week that he believed Malkin was pressured to sign.

Brisson revealed yesterday that the team's general director, Gennady Velichkin, held Malkin's passport after he gave his two-weeks notice to terminate his employment with Magnitogorsk in July.

"They didn't want to give it to him," Brisson said.

Once he inked the new deal, Malkin retrieved his passport to travel with Magnitogorsk to Helsinki, and he met Barry there.

Magnitogorsk coach Dave King told radio station The Fan 590 in Toronto that Malkin disappeared when the team arrived.

"At the airport in Helsinki, somehow we lost him," King told the station. "It's no surprise to the coaches. We all knew that Evgeni really, really wanted to go."

Russian news agency ITAR-TASS reported that Velichkin said he received an illegible fax from Malkin -- again giving two weeks' notice Sunday -- and that he suspected someone other than Malkin signed it.

Velichkin has threatened to sue the Penguins and the NHL and has criticized the effort to lure Malkin to U.S. as "sports terrorism."

Brisson said yesterday that there were no lawsuits pending, but Malkin is preparing for that possibility.

"We're moving forward with our own strategy," Brisson said. "We're working on it, but right now, there's nothing eminent."

Brisson said he wasn't sure when Malkin would be making his first trip to Pittsburgh.

"It all depends," he said. "As soon as we can do a deal."

Brisson said he told Penguins general manager Ray Shero that Malkin was in the country but said there was no timetable to begin contract negotiations.

The process shouldn't take long, however, because entry-level contracts are capped at $984,200 under the terms of the league's collective bargaining agreement. But Malkin can make up to $2.85 million with various performance bonuses.

"We have been informed by Evgeni Malkin's agent that Evgeni is now in the United States," Penguins general manager Ray Shero said in a statement. "At the appropriate time, we look forward to sitting down with Evgeni and his representatives to discuss what can be a very bright future with the Pittsburgh Penguins."

Several NHL and players' union officials declined to comment on the Malkin situation.

Los Angeles Kings officials, however, confirmed that Malkin skated yesterday at the team's Toyota Sports Training Center in El Segundo, Calif., along with NHL players Rob Blake, Anson Carter and Mathieu Schneider.

"A group of NHL players come here every summer and rent the ice on their own," Kings spokesman Jeff Moeller said. "We can confirm that he skated here with them today, but that had absolutely nothing to do with the Kings."

He referred all further questions to agent Brisson, who also represents Anson in his free agent negotiations.

"(Malkin) looked good," Brisson said, adding that Malkin would continue to train on and off the ice while staying at a hotel in the Los Angeles area. "He had a good skate."

Penguins players were looking forward Malkin's arrival in Pittsburgh.

"We kind of heard that around here, that he was coming," Penguins left winger Ryan Malone said from Minneapolis, where he's finishing pre-camp workouts. "It's great, because we're getting a world-class player. The Penguins are really setting us up for success.

"We're very lucky. He's so young, and Sidney (Crosby) and all of us will be a main group of guys who are planning to be here for awhile. Now, we get to start working to bring the (Stanley Cup) trophy back to the 'Burgh."

Karen Price can be reached at kprice@tribweb.com.




http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_466620.html

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I need to head over there and check this kid out. I can't believe he here in LA.

Killericon
08-18-2006, 04:00 AM
Aw, man, that article totally killed the only offseason intrigue we've got left. Damnit.

Jori
08-22-2006, 04:47 PM
Bruins re-sign Patrice Bergeron

http://www.bostonbruins.com/pressbox/pressreleases.asp?ID=1761

An update on Marek Svatos

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_4217217

Boogerboots
08-22-2006, 08:06 PM
From reports I have seen, Montreal is Dumont's number one choice. However, the Habs stand at about 41 million in total salaries and would want to move some salary in order to fit in Dumont.

Yeah the Habs are all over JP. It's rumored that Mtl was looking to ditch Komisarek to the Isles for a draft pick in order to make the room. Personally, I hope they don't move a good young D-man for a middle of the road forward like JP. Mtl has enough of those already.

Not sure if anybody has seen this yet but get a load of the new Buffalo Sabres logo that they'll be going with next year...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/boogerboots/sabresnewlogo.jpg

... and it's been labelled everything from the Lightning Slug to the Buffalo Mullett. This bute almost ranks up there with the Islanders "Capt. Highliner" and Canuck's "Flying V" from back in the day. ugh!~ At least they'll be using the old retro as their third jersey.

Mtbrncofn
08-23-2006, 12:24 PM
Git 'r done, Marek. Please. :pray:

Jori
08-23-2006, 12:47 PM
Lidstrom to be named new Red Wings captain.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2558523

Jori
08-23-2006, 03:26 PM
Dumont down to 3-4 teams; Montreal is NOT among them.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=175107&hubname=nhl

Killericon
08-24-2006, 04:57 AM
Dumont down to 3-4 teams; Montreal is NOT among them.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=175107&hubname=nhl

*Cough* Bargaining Tactic *Cough*

Jori
08-24-2006, 05:28 PM
Avs training camp roster and information now available.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=602

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/PDF/2006_07_TCRoster.pdf

SoCalBronco
08-24-2006, 10:40 PM
Pittsburgh in talks with Vancouver about a possible deal sending RW Michel Oullet to the Canucks in exchange for LW Matt Cooke.

Jori
08-29-2006, 08:41 AM
Dumont may be headed to Nashville.

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/211702.html

The link is in French, but there are other sources saying something could go down today.

Jori
08-29-2006, 12:57 PM
Dumont to Nashville is official; two years/ 4.5 million.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=175685&hubname

Jori
08-29-2006, 03:02 PM
Canes sign D David Tanabe; one year, 900k.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=175693&hubname=

alkemical
08-29-2006, 03:15 PM
damn, i wanted him.

Jori
08-30-2006, 05:12 PM
Sabres re-sign Dmitri Kalinin; two years, 4 million.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=175793&hubname=nhl

Canes sign Brad Isbister; one year, 600k.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=175815&hubname=nhl

Red Wings to retire Steve Yzerman's jersey in a January 2, 2007 pregame ceremony.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=175805&hubname=nhl

Bronx33
09-01-2006, 12:42 PM
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/09/01/malkin.shtml

Malkin’s Parents Fear Son’s Fans, Plan to Leave Hometown

Russian run-away hockey player Malkin’s parents, frightened by their son’s frenzied Russian fans and hopeless chiefs of the Mettalurg hockey team where Malkin played, are going to sell their house and move from their native city of Magnitogorsk, the Zhizn’ newspaper reported.

Evgeni Malkin, who reportedly was the best player in the world outside the NHL, had secretly left his club, Metallurg Magnitogorsk, at Helsinki airport on August 13, 2006. He vanished for several days before resurfacing in the United States on August 17 and declaring his wish to play for Pittsburgh, where he had been offered a $3.8 mln. contract.

Metallurg general director Gennady Velichkin called the sudden disappearance of his best player “pure sports terrorism” and vowed to sue the Penguins and demand a huge compensation.

“You can’t imagine how Evgeni wanted to play in the NHL! ” his mother Natalia Malkina told reporters.

“And we dreamed with him. Finally he had found his way. And we will be by his side as his parents everywhere! But unfortunately there are people who are trying to thrust their opinion,” Natalia said.

“They will not leave us alone”.

“When Evgeni was still missing they stayed in our house day and night. They thought we would help them to find him. But we didn’t know where he was either. We understand he just could not call. He calmed us down as soon as he was able to do so,” she said.

According to the newspaper, some of Malkin’s fans in his native city want revenge for his defection.

“I will not be surprised if fans burn to the ground his restaurant,VIP Zone!” one fan said. “You just can’t do such things. He has spat upon us”.

Bronx33
09-01-2006, 03:15 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2567438

Colorado Avalanche president Pierre Lacroix confirmed what has been rumored for weeks, saying he recently went through a health scare that raised concerns that he might have cancer or another serious illness.




Reuters
Avs president Pierre Lacroix said his recent health scare had nothing to do with him giving up GM duties with the team.
Lacroix had a mass in his spine, resulting in a frightening series of tests that ultimately concluded the mass was not a tumor.


Lacroix's scare began eight days after he announced the hiring of Francois Giguere as his successor as GM and said his decision to give up his dual duties with the Avalanche had nothing to do with health issues.

Doctors finally were able to rule out cancer and other serious illnesses after Lacroix underwent a series of tests during hospital stays in Las Vegas and Denver, in addition to the Minnesota Mayo Clinic. A biopsy in the spinal area is so dangerous, it is considered a last resort, and doctors ultimately were able to rule out cancer by other means.


"You're in a long period of knowing nothing, or imagining the worst," Lacroix told The Denver Post. "I had a mass, and still have a mass, in my back. They said to me that it could be from so many things. It could be from a virus or a disease, or it could be a tumor … No doubt the worst things go through your mind. It was very tough on my wife and my family, but the outcome is great."


Lacroix said he felt ill at his Las Vegas-area home on the night of June 2. He called his friend and neighbor, Rene Angelil, singer Celine Dion's husband.


"He's had two heart attacks and I asked him, 'What are the symptoms?'" Lacroix told the paper. "He said, 'Burning sensation in the stomach and back pain.'" Lacroix said that described his symptoms, and Angelil took him to a hospital. Over the next few days, doctors ruled out a heart issue and sent him back to Denver to be treated by Avalanche team physicians and renowned neurologist Stanley Ginsburg.


Lacroix spent two weeks in an intensive care unit, as doctors pumped him full of steroids and attempted to shrink the mass in his back. Doctors also ruled out other serious diseases, including multiple sclerosis. On his second visit to a specialist at the Mayo Clinic on Aug. 18, he finally got the word that the mass wasn't cancerous.


"They told me they would have to monitor it, and that I might have another reaction like I had a few months ago, but that there was, in their opinion, no need to go in for any kind of surgery," Lacroix told The Post.


"You can't call it a tumor. You don't know why it hits. It hit me and created this malformation of the spine. People live with pain in the back, and there's nothing wrong with that."

SoCalBronco
09-01-2006, 08:44 PM
Sorta good news for the Penguins arena issue.....new mayor of Pittsburgh (Mayor O'Connor passed away this evening from cancer, RIP) Luke Ravenstahl is a supporter of the Penguins/IOC bid.

Pretty amazing stuff.....a 26 year old kid is going to run the city of Pittsburgh.

http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20060901JH_Raven_Ceremony_230.jpg

Jori
09-03-2006, 04:09 PM
Mike Keenan resigns as Panthers GM; Jacques Martin named as replacement.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=176329&hubname=

Clockwork Orange
09-03-2006, 04:24 PM
Mike Keenan resigns as Panthers GM; Jacques Martin named as replacement.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=176329&hubname=

After trading a franchise netminder just entering his prime for an knuckle dragging floater with more baggage than a Samsonite factory, he shouldn't have been around long enough to resign.

I regret the fact that the Avs didn't find a way to pry Jay Bouwmeester out of there while Iron Mike was still calling the shots.

Killericon
09-03-2006, 05:59 PM
After trading a franchise netminder just entering his prime for an knuckle dragging floater with more baggage than a Samsonite factory, he shouldn't have been around long enough to resign.

I regret the fact that the Avs didn't find a way to pry Jay Bouwmeester out of there while Iron Mike was still calling the shots.

Not even Iron Mike was stupid enough to ship about JayBo.

Jori
09-04-2006, 03:38 PM
Malkin expected to sign with the Pens tomorrow.

http://postgazette.com/pg/06247/719014-100.stm