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Hogan11
11-16-2005, 07:27 PM
OT.....very exciting game!

SoCalBronco
11-16-2005, 07:28 PM
ok, on to OT. I will take a point at Philadelphia, no matter the outcome, although blowing 2 goal 3rd period leads started to get old about 3 times ago.

Hogan11
11-16-2005, 07:29 PM
Flu has been pretty solid in goal for you guys this game.

SoCalBronco
11-16-2005, 07:31 PM
Fleury made some amazing saves there.

SoCalBronco
11-16-2005, 07:32 PM
We're hanging by a thread here.

Hogan11
11-16-2005, 07:32 PM
Fleury made some amazing saves there.

Flu was very lucky

Hogan11
11-16-2005, 07:34 PM
Dammit!!!

SoCalBronco
11-16-2005, 07:34 PM
Scores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hogan11
11-16-2005, 07:35 PM
That friggin' Crosby is a menace

SoCalBronco
11-16-2005, 07:35 PM
Wow. Sid is a ****ing beast.

Great game Hogan. Really a shame either team had to lose this one, that was a great game by Philly, esp Forsberg, and that goaltender was very good.

SoCalBronco
11-16-2005, 07:36 PM
This was an amazing game to watch.

Hogan11
11-16-2005, 07:39 PM
Wow. Sid is a ****ing beast.

Great game Hogan. Really a shame either team had to lose this one, that was a great game by Philly, esp Forsberg, and that goaltender was very good.

Yeah I agree....good win for you. First time seeing Crosby in action, very impressive I must say. Very disappointing loss but it's a long season.

Disco Man
11-16-2005, 08:24 PM
Lord Stanley is coming home to Montreal this year boys!

Bronx33
11-16-2005, 08:36 PM
Lord Stanley is coming home to Montreal this year boys!

Remind me to put you in a headlock sunday...

Mtbrncofn
11-16-2005, 09:49 PM
I don't know what Philly's take on Lindros was.....me, I saw a guy with all the promise in the world that never delivered.....comparing him to Forsberg, well, I'd have to side with you on that one MT.


Sheesh, where were you when I needed you on this one? ;)

Mtbrncofn
11-16-2005, 09:53 PM
So... I'm in a dilemma. The wifey's boss is the owner of the Anaheim Ducks and she is always getting tix from him in the nosebleed seats. However, for the Ducks vs Avs game we can upgrade one seat to two rows behind the glass on the side.

Here's the dilemma. Its only one ticket there and I've never been that close to the glass before. Do I dare take the seat for myself, and then sit right next to the owner of the organization in my Avs gear? Or should I give it to the wifey and let her schmooze with the corporates?


Be selfish and wear the Avs stuff. Doh! ;) Seriously, what if you sit down there and somehow the guy finds out that you were an Avs fan, but you were to pansy ass to support your team? He'll think you're some kind of ass kisser! Think of Elaine at the baseball game here. :)

Breck Bronc
11-16-2005, 10:08 PM
Detroit loses to Calgary, who's the hottest team in the Western Conference.

The Red Wings are 7-0 vs. the Central Division and 1-3-1 vs. the Northwest Division. Good thing for Detroit the league went to the new unbalanced schedule.

Mtbrncofn
11-16-2005, 10:19 PM
I personally liked it better when the Flames were sucking at the beginning of the year. I knew it couldn't last but I could hope.

Unfortunately our division, arguably is the toughest.

Mtbrncofn
11-16-2005, 10:27 PM
I almost forgot to mention I just now noticed how much the Blues sucked. I knew they were doing bad, but geez. I looked at the points in the morning paper and they only had 7 points. SEVEN! Yikes. Must be grand to be a Blues fan.

However, they did snap their winless streak tonite to the dismay of the newly Fedorov-ed Jackets, as I'm sure you all noticed.

Oh yeah, one more thing.....are you guys all getting this Altitude 2 thing? Panic set in for me tonite when I saw that. I looked through my program guide on the satellite and didn't see it listed. I may have to get CI after all.

Bronx33
11-16-2005, 11:24 PM
Originally Posted by Pezman
So... I'm in a dilemma. The wifey's boss is the owner of the Anaheim Ducks and she is always getting tix from him in the nosebleed seats. However, for the Ducks vs Avs game we can upgrade one seat to two rows behind the glass on the side.

Here's the dilemma. Its only one ticket there and I've never been that close to the glass before. Do I dare take the seat for myself, and then sit right next to the owner of the organization in my Avs gear? Or should I give it to the wifey and let her schmooze with the corporates?

HE11! YA! PEZ! get drunk too!

Pezman
11-16-2005, 11:29 PM
Be selfish and wear the Avs stuff. Doh! ;) Seriously, what if you sit down there and somehow the guy finds out that you were an Avs fan, but you were to pansy ass to support your team? He'll think you're some kind of ass kisser! Think of Elaine at the baseball game here. :)

Funny, that's exactly what the wife's manager said to her too Ha! I swear, we could use Seinfeld references in everything these days heh

I have a feeling I'm gonna bow to her demands and let her have the seat near the owner since I would be loud and proud while rooting for my Avs... and since she would kick my ass forever if she got fired...

But you have to admit, its a toughie... cheer for the Avs or lose the privledge of getting laid (potentially). :tearhair:

By the way... GO AVS!

Mtbrncofn
11-16-2005, 11:30 PM
I'd go for the Avs every time. !Booya!

Pezman
11-16-2005, 11:34 PM
I'd go for the Avs every time. !Booya!

As long as Svatos remains on fire, I'll have no trouble rooting for the Avs to kick some Ducks ass!

By the way, is there any hope that Hejduk even getting any ice time these days, especially on Friday? My god, it seems like ages since he's done jack...

Mtbrncofn
11-16-2005, 11:37 PM
He's in a bit of a slump it seems. Yes, it'd be nice for him and the rest of the 1st line to pull the lead out of their asses and giddyup. Even though the defense has it problems, thank God they can score. I don't want to think about where we'd be without that.

alkemical
11-17-2005, 08:35 AM
It's good the pens only have crosby :)

Good game, i said Pitkonen was the flyers most important guy on D -

Disco Man
11-17-2005, 09:01 AM
Remind me to put you in a headlock sunday...
.are you sure you want to ***k with a Hanson????????

phillybroncosnut
11-17-2005, 10:16 AM
Nice job by your Pens last night SoCal and Josh.

Bronx33
11-17-2005, 11:45 AM
.are you sure you want to **** with a Hanson????????

With enough beer in me............yes.

alkemical
11-17-2005, 11:48 AM
Nice job by your Pens last night SoCal and Josh.


Hey we win every other game or so - :)

Besides, the battle of PA is always fun - it's a shame that between the AHL teams there isn't a better rivalry - I remember back when the bears where the flyers baby team, and then the avs, now they are the caps -

alkemical
11-17-2005, 01:52 PM
Now being a pens fan - i'm going to give this vote:

Alexander Ovechkin is the Calder winner this year - he's more valuable to WSH at this point than to the pens - stats might be close to a 'push' - and as much as i love crosby (I think ovechkin is a better goal scorer, i think crosby is a great playmaker) - but i think ovechkin is it this year.

Clockwork Orange
11-17-2005, 02:38 PM
Mark it on your calendar, Tuesday night at the Igloo. Caps vs Pens, Crosby & Ovechkin go head to head.

Mtbrncofn
11-17-2005, 04:39 PM
Svatos is gettin no love?! ;) Bummer, too bad he couldn't have broken in as a rook like he was supposed to be able to last year. Might have had a better shot.

alkemical
11-17-2005, 04:48 PM
I was kind of mad that the bears were able to keep svatos and send the rest of the bears packing

alkemical
11-17-2005, 04:50 PM
Mark it on your calendar, Tuesday night at the Igloo. Caps vs Pens, Crosby & Ovechkin go head to head.


this should be good -


for the guy who was #2 behind ovechkin:

http://www.pittsburghpenguins.com/team/features/arts/1462.0.php

Pittsburgh Penguins fans hope to see Evgeni Malkin play in the Steel City next year.

Well, in this Steel City anyway.

Malkin, the Penguins’ 2004 first-round pick (No. 2 overall), is tearing up the Russian Super League for Metallurg Magnitogorsk. The 19-year-old center was named the league’s Player of the Month for October. He had 22 points (10+12) in his first 22 games, which ranked second in the league. However, his 10 goals were tops in the league.

Hercules Rockefeller
11-17-2005, 06:56 PM
Nice to see the Caps come back from a 6-1 deficit to make it 6-4 at the end of 2. Even better was killing off a 7 minute penalty, and actually getting a shorty on it too. Ovy is 1 and 1 so far. Even if they lose, not giving up when down by 5 shows a lot.

Clockwork Orange
11-17-2005, 07:09 PM
1 goal, 1 assist for Ovechkin thus far.

What's going on with Chris Drury? His team has six goals tonight and he not only doesn't have so much as a single point, but he's a -1 in the game.

SoCalBronco
11-17-2005, 07:21 PM
Now being a pens fan - i'm going to give this vote:

Alexander Ovechkin is the Calder winner this year - he's more valuable to WSH at this point than to the pens - stats might be close to a 'push' - and as much as i love crosby (I think ovechkin is a better goal scorer, i think crosby is a great playmaker) - but i think ovechkin is it this year.

I dont think either of them have clearly seperated themselves from the other. AO has more goals and is certainly a better pure scorer but as you said Crosby is a better playmaker, has superior vision and has more total points. Even his goal scoring has really begun to take off. He had 2 in the first 14 games or so, the last 7, 8 games he has scored 7 goals. Right now, its basically a draw, very small advantage in my admittedly homer opinion to Crosby since he is younger and has a few more points. Still more or less a wash though. AO is an excellent player and will probably score 60 goals this season. If it keeps up this way, I dont think anyone can complain either way it turns out. I wouldnt complain if AO wins it if it ends up being a relative wash like it is now, He is also deserving, but I think Crosby is a little better. He was amazing last night. If Christensen and Palffy sealed the deal on a couple of those pretty passes, Crosby would have had 5 points. As it was he had 3 against a great team. This will be a great competition all year long.

Hercules Rockefeller
11-17-2005, 07:33 PM
What's going on with Chris Drury? His team has six goals tonight and he not only doesn't have so much as a single point, but he's a -1 in the game.

Because Brent Johnson has made the Sabres 4th line look like the Sens 1st line.

alkemical
11-18-2005, 07:21 AM
I dont think either of them have clearly seperated themselves from the other. AO has more goals and is certainly a better pure scorer but as you said Crosby is a better playmaker, has superior vision and has more total points. Even his goal scoring has really begun to take off. He had 2 in the first 14 games or so, the last 7, 8 games he has scored 7 goals. Right now, its basically a draw, very small advantage in my admittedly homer opinion to Crosby since he is younger and has a few more points. Still more or less a wash though. AO is an excellent player and will probably score 60 goals this season. If it keeps up this way, I dont think anyone can complain either way it turns out. I wouldnt complain if AO wins it if it ends up being a relative wash like it is now, He is also deserving, but I think Crosby is a little better. He was amazing last night. If Christensen and Palffy sealed the deal on a couple of those pretty passes, Crosby would have had 5 points. As it was he had 3 against a great team. This will be a great competition all year long.

Well i see ryan malone came out strong after being scratched. I really like that kid. IMO - i think he has 'hero' written all over him. Last 'year' when the pens played, he had a TON of big game goals. He's also a native PITT guy as well.

I think Ovechkin is more electryfying to watch in terms of his goal scoring. I'd put him up there with Illya Kovolchuk in terms of pure goal scoring ability. And i mean that in terms that i think Ovechkin is where Kovolchuk is at now.

I love crosby, and having seen what ovechkin can do, makes me full of anticipation for Malkin!

Mtbrncofn
11-19-2005, 10:45 AM
Not only is Ovechkin a goal scorer, he's a fighter. I thought it was cool to see him defend his goalie.

Bronx33
11-19-2005, 11:19 AM
Not only is Ovechkin a goal scorer, he's a fighter. I thought it was cool to see him defend his goalie.

Yep, but ill bet the coach said that's great vech! just don't do it again! ROFL!

Mtbrncofn
11-19-2005, 11:34 AM
I would imagine so, but man that was cool of him.

phillybroncosnut
11-20-2005, 08:20 AM
Flyers improve to 10-1-1 on the road this year with a 6-3 thrashing of the lowly Pens.
Gagne adds his league leading 19th and 20th goals last night.

As far as Crosby goes, no doubt the kid has skills. That said, he better learn to respect the game a little more before every player in the league starts to disrespect him. No player likes a diver. Crosby is a bonified diver. Not only that, when he gets called on it by Forsberg, he sprints over to Forsberg and starts yelling "F" this and "F" that at Peter.
I know Eddie Olchyk had a meeting with him about his mouth and the disrespect he is showing to both the Refs and opposing players but it obviously isn't working. Super Mario better do a better job of reigning the kid in or he will quickly become a player with alot of skill but zero respect from his peers.

Hogan11
11-20-2005, 10:48 AM
Flyers improve to 10-1-1 on the road this year with a 6-3 thrashing of the lowly Pens.
Gagne adds his league leading 19th and 20th goals last night.

As far as Crosby goes, no doubt the kid has skills. That said, he better learn to respect the game a little more before every player in the league starts to disrespect him. No player likes a diver. Crosby is a bonified diver. Not only that, when he gets called on it by Forsberg, he sprints over to Forsberg and starts yelling "F" this and "F" that at Peter.
I know Eddie Olchyk had a meeting with him about his mouth and the disrespect he is showing to both the Refs and opposing players but it obviously isn't working. Super Mario better do a better job of reigning the kid in or he will quickly become a player with alot of skill but zero respect from his peers.

I'm just glad they actually held a lead and finished for a change.....honestly, I'm tired of seeing teams come back against the Broncos and then when I get the Flyers on the screen here, they're doing the exact same thing, it pisses me off.

As for Crosby, I couldn't agree more Philly.....that was some display by him, not exactly what the NHL wants with it's newest marketing tool I suspect.

Mtbrncofn
11-20-2005, 11:23 PM
No one likes a diver....Sean Avery. Ha!

alkemical
11-21-2005, 09:33 AM
well i didn't see the game - i was in mass this weekend - but i'll take the kids word from what i've read.

ol number 7
11-22-2005, 08:11 AM
.are you sure you want to **** with a Hanson????????

Is that Hanson or Heenan your talking about. Put on your Jean Believeu jersey and go Canadians.

ol number 7
11-22-2005, 08:12 AM
Is that Hanson or Heenan your talking about. Put on your Jean Believeu jersey and go Canadians.

Hey Disco, remember watching the Canadiens outdoor game like 2 years ago?

alkemical
11-22-2005, 11:56 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2232154

Forsberg laughed about the exchange of words, saying, "It looked kind of suspicious to me. That's all I said."


However, he seemed to acknowledge the Flyers' talk about Crosby is all a ploy, saying, "I know I was [accused of it] in my first couple of years, too."

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 05:47 PM
Ovechkin vs. Crosby Chapter 1

Pens lead 1-0 on a Palffy goal in the 1st.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 05:50 PM
2-0 Pens. Ric Jackman continues to be a Caps killer with a goal and assist so far.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 05:57 PM
Crosby puts a nice move on Kolzig, knocks off the water bottles again on his goal.

3-0 Pens.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 06:04 PM
Hot Damn. I havent seen a period this good in a long time. 4-0, Pirjeta goal.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 06:36 PM
Clark scores for the Caps.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 06:36 PM
Just a few seconds, later another goal for the Caps. Dammit wake up.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 06:50 PM
Ovechkin very close to a goal, made a great move.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 06:56 PM
Crosby responds with a beautiful spin around and pass to Palffy for a goal.

5-2 Pens.

1G, 1A for SC.
Ovechkin pointless but he has had an array of great shots and has been real close to 2 goals.

Both are playing great.

Bronx33
11-22-2005, 07:09 PM
Crosby responds with a beautiful spin around and pass to Palffy for a goal.

5-2 Pens.

1G, 1A for SC.
Ovechkin pointless but he has had an array of great shots and has been real close to 2 goals.

Both are playing great.


that twas a pretty goal by crosby......

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 07:33 PM
caps with a couple goals, 5-4. Ovechkin with an assist.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 07:35 PM
really nice lofted pass by Halpern on the Caps shorthanded goal.

SoCalBronco
11-22-2005, 10:43 PM
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/11/22/PH2005112202003.jpg

alkemical
11-23-2005, 08:50 AM
that was a good game

phillybroncosnut
11-25-2005, 02:41 PM
This will make some av's fans happy (unfortunately):

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/recap/NHL_20051125_PHI@BOS

Breck Bronc
11-25-2005, 03:22 PM
This will make some av's fans happy (unfortunately):

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/recap/NHL_20051125_PHI@BOSWhy would it make Avs fans happy that Forsberg is injured?

phillybroncosnut
11-25-2005, 03:30 PM
Why would it make Avs fans happy that Forsberg is injured?


Because some people have admitted that they take joy in Flyers players getting injured.

Breck Bronc
11-25-2005, 03:42 PM
Because some people have admitted that they take joy in Flyers players getting injured.Who's said that here?

phillybroncosnut
11-25-2005, 03:47 PM
MT for one. Read through the thread, you may find more.

Breck Bronc
11-25-2005, 04:22 PM
MT for one. Read through the thread, you may find more.I highly doubt MT is happy Forsberg is hurt. She is a vicious, vicious woman, though, so I might be wrong.

dbroncos31
11-25-2005, 05:36 PM
forsberg's okay. i heard it was just a strain and hitch took him out so he couldn't really injure it. well, another great game from gagne and forsberg

SoCalBronco
11-25-2005, 11:26 PM
The loss to Florida today was galling. I only got to see the first ten mins of the game before I had to go, unfortuneatly they had already scored 4 goals by that point. Playing the Pens can cure any ailment! I dont know about you Josh, but im getting fed up with Edzo.

This did bring a smile to my face though, from Malkin's coach in the Russian Super League:

"He's just been dominant," Magnitogorsk coach Dave King said. "I've coached [Eric] Lindros and I've coached other young people [such as Rick Nash] and this guy is something special. In one-on-one drills, he just evaporates as he goes past a defender. He has the ability to see the plays in front of him and also sense the pressure coming from behind. It's almost Gretzky-like. He's really the best player in the league."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...=all&print=true

Al Wilson
11-26-2005, 03:53 PM
Sens: 2nd best start in NHL history.

So much for Philly and the rest of them losers:wave:

phillybroncosnut
11-26-2005, 07:20 PM
I highly doubt MT is happy Forsberg is hurt. She is a vicious, vicious woman, though, so I might be wrong.

Well, she went out of her way to make fun of Turner Stevenson's injury. She basically said she was happy he was hurt.
Then, in another post, she said she "hated" Forsberg now. So, putting 2 and 2 together, I'd imagine that she is happy Peter is out (even if it's only 1 or 2 games).
I know, that's sad!

phillybroncosnut
11-26-2005, 07:21 PM
Sens: 2nd best start in NHL history.

So much for Philly and the rest of them losers:wave:

Well, if you want to go by "history", get back to me when the Sens beat the Flyers 35 game unbeaten streak!

BizzyBone7
11-26-2005, 09:10 PM
anyone catch the ranger game. i havent been that entertained in a looong time...the shootout went 14 rounds and the guy who won it shot it between his own legs. thats exactly what this sport needs to get it going again even tho it looks like people are starting to get into it again. great finish, i recomend catching the highlights on sportscenter of the rangers and caps

Hercules Rockefeller
11-27-2005, 08:24 AM
For the Avs fans, John Davidson said last night during the Caps-Rangers game that the team he keeps hearing in the background when it comes to a Luongo trade is the Avs.

Jori
11-27-2005, 10:30 AM
There have been rumblings about the Avs interest in Luongo for weeks. I don't think anything is imminent. The Avs have injury concerns with Turgeon and Konowalchuk. Turgeon's injury is more of a day-to-day thing, but Konowalchuk looks to be headed to surgery on his wrist. All this means is that the Avs can't afford to move any forwards in a trade right now without getting a forward in return or making a separate transaction if the Panthers don't take Aebischer in the deal which has been reported by Larry Brooks. Then again, Brooks is the same guy who was claiming the Avs would ship Sakic to the Rangers for Petr Nedved all those years ago.

Jori
11-27-2005, 11:36 AM
Well its bad news for the Avs, Konowalchuk out for the rest of the season:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=144775&hubname=nhl

Breck Bronc
11-27-2005, 12:12 PM
Well its bad news for the Avs, Konowalchuk out for the rest of the season:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=144775&hubname=nhlWell, so much for this season. ****ing ****.

phillybroncosnut
11-27-2005, 12:18 PM
Damn. That's a tough pill for the Av's and their fans. Steve is a real solid veteran who not only produces while on the ice, he's a great guy to show the young players the ropes. Great player, and great leader.
Sorry for the loss fella's.
Now, go get Luongo so I don't have to see him in the East!

SoCalBronco
11-27-2005, 04:59 PM
Maybe if we can keep it up, we can add Kessel to the mix next year. This is getting to be beyond pathetic. 4-0 to Philly's 'Ning in the 3rd right now after helping Florida break out of their slump 6-3 a few nights ago.

Breck Bronc
11-27-2005, 05:08 PM
Maybe if we can keep it up, we can add Kessel to the mix next year. This is getting to be beyond pathetic. 4-0 to Philly's 'Ning in the 3rd right now after helping Florida break out of their slump 6-3 a few nights ago.At this point for the Pens you've still got to like the fact that Crosby, Fleury and Malkin might soon be joined by Phil Kessel or Jonathon Toews. That's a damn nice core to build around.

Forget about the Recchi's and LeClair's at this point and forge ahead with the youth.

SoCalBronco
11-27-2005, 05:10 PM
At this point for the Pens you've still got to like the fact that Crosby, Fleury and Malkin might soon be joined by Phil Kessel or Jonathon Toews. That's a damn nice core to build around.

Forget about the Recchi's and LeClair's at this point and forge ahead with the youth.

I hear they are trying to ship a veteran (Gonchar or Palffy) likely the former since Palffy has turned it on lately so that they can free up a little more money so that they can afford to bring up Fleury for good in the next couple of weeks. Its blatantly obvious now that he is the best goaltender on the team. Almost everytime they have brought him up, he has had a quality start. He's the only one of the three who's NHL GAA is below 4 and the only one who's save percentage is above .900. He has nothing more to accomplish in the AHL. He has won 16 of 18 games down there and his GAA is well below 2.00. Its all about money now. They didnt want to add another 3 million but now theyve figured out that they are never going to be more than a 3 or 4 game below .500 team this season with Caron and T-Blow.

Good point on the youngsters vs. the vets. Ive been far more impressed with the youngsters this year. Obviously Crosby has been a beast. Christensen has been a fine center as well. Whitney is probably our best defenseman and he was just called up a few weeks ago. Murley has played well tonight. Malone and Orpik have been disappointments so far though. There's alot of young talent though, there is a great young defenseman at WBS in Noah Welch, I cant wait to see him play. Maybe they can turn it around but its unlikely right now. Havent really been impressed with any of the vets lately, except for Palffy who finally got off his ass.

alkemical
11-28-2005, 09:25 AM
The loss to Florida today was galling. I only got to see the first ten mins of the game before I had to go, unfortuneatly they had already scored 4 goals by that point. Playing the Pens can cure any ailment! I dont know about you Josh, but im getting fed up with Edzo.

This did bring a smile to my face though, from Malkin's coach in the Russian Super League:

"He's just been dominant," Magnitogorsk coach Dave King said. "I've coached [Eric] Lindros and I've coached other young people [such as Rick Nash] and this guy is something special. In one-on-one drills, he just evaporates as he goes past a defender. He has the ability to see the plays in front of him and also sense the pressure coming from behind. It's almost Gretzky-like. He's really the best player in the league."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...=all&print=true

I am not so sure it's "just" edzo - To be honest, i think they have the 'wrong' mix of people on the roster. I'm so in favor of moving gonchar.

alkemical
11-28-2005, 09:30 AM
I hear they are trying to ship a veteran (Gonchar or Palffy) likely the former since Palffy has turned it on lately so that they can free up a little more money so that they can afford to bring up Fleury for good in the next couple of weeks. Its blatantly obvious now that he is the best goaltender on the team. Almost everytime they have brought him up, he has had a quality start. He's the only one of the three who's NHL GAA is below 4 and the only one who's save percentage is above .900. He has nothing more to accomplish in the AHL. He has won 16 of 18 games down there and his GAA is well below 2.00. Its all about money now. They didnt want to add another 3 million but now theyve figured out that they are never going to be more than a 3 or 4 game below .500 team this season with Caron and T-Blow.

Good point on the youngsters vs. the vets. Ive been far more impressed with the youngsters this year. Obviously Crosby has been a beast. Christensen has been a fine center as well. Whitney is probably our best defenseman and he was just called up a few weeks ago. Murley has played well tonight. Malone and Orpik have been disappointments so far though. There's alot of young talent though, there is a great young defenseman at WBS in Noah Welch, I cant wait to see him play. Maybe they can turn it around but its unlikely right now. Havent really been impressed with any of the vets lately, except for Palffy who finally got off his ass.


Malone has started playing better after his benching - and brooks is probably our Second Best D - he gets alot of penalties - but i don't find it THAT bad IMO. We need someone to be tough out there.

But T-bo & Gonchar have to go

Mtbrncofn
11-28-2005, 06:15 PM
I highly doubt MT is happy Forsberg is hurt. She is a vicious, vicious woman, though, so I might be wrong.


LOL I take that as a compliment you know. I'm not happy Forsberg is hurt, not surprised either though.

Mtbrncofn
11-28-2005, 06:16 PM
Well, she went out of her way to make fun of Turner Stevenson's injury. She basically said she was happy he was hurt.
Then, in another post, she said she "hated" Forsberg now. So, putting 2 and 2 together, I'd imagine that she is happy Peter is out (even if it's only 1 or 2 games).
I know, that's sad!


Boo hoo for you. Get over it, whiner.

phillybroncosnut
11-29-2005, 10:24 AM
Boo hoo for you. Get over it, whiner.

Just proving what a low life fan you are. That's all I was doing. I quoted YOUR words right? I didn't make that up somehow did I?

It's not whining in the least. Just stating the obvious.

Clockwork Orange
11-29-2005, 02:37 PM
They didnt want to add another 3 million but now theyve figured out that they are never going to be more than a 3 or 4 game below .500 team this season with Caron and T-Blow.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=144967&hubname=

Pens put Thibault on waivers today.

alkemical
11-29-2005, 02:45 PM
I knew that was coming after reading Fluery was called up

Mtbrncofn
11-29-2005, 04:14 PM
Just proving what a low life fan you are. That's all I was doing. I quoted YOUR words right? I didn't make that up somehow did I?

It's not whining in the least. Just stating the obvious.


Again, boo hoo. 4321~

phillybroncosnut
11-29-2005, 04:17 PM
Again, boo hoo. 4321~

Again, low life, scumbag fan!_i_O_i_

Mtbrncofn
11-29-2005, 04:24 PM
Again, whining bitch, ****head fan. 4321~

phillybroncosnut
11-29-2005, 04:51 PM
What's the matter hoe? You can't take the truth? Don't be a focking scumbag, lowlife fan if you don't want it to come back attcha.
Seems to me that you are the only one whining about it. I made a statement. If your scumbag lowlife comments came back to haunt you, who's fault is that?
It's called "responsibility" TWAT!

Breck Bronc
11-29-2005, 04:52 PM
The NHL's new unbalanced schedule has been such a success so far I think it should be tweaked even further next season.

Gary Bettman and company would be smart to have each team play a division rival 82 times a season, then switch the teams every year. So instead of Colorado playing Vancouver or Minnesota 8 times a year, they'd play Vancouver 82 times in 2006-'07 and Minnesota 82 times in 2007-'08. Imagine the rivalries this would create! It would also really cut down on travel for Eastern Conference teams even more. The Islanders and Rangers wouldn't have to get on a plane for an entire regular season in the year they play each other!

To make it even better, OLN could then just show one matchup all season, instead of their current rotation of Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York Rangers, and Boston. Nobody wants to see any teams west of the Mississippi anyway, so I think it would be just fantastic if they broadcast the Flyers vs. the Rangers 30 times a season.

phillybroncosnut
11-29-2005, 04:55 PM
The NHL's new unbalanced schedule has been such a success so far I think it should be tweaked even further next season.

Gary Bettman and company would be smart to have each team play a division rival 82 times a season, then switch the teams every year. So instead of Colorado playing Vancouver or Minnesota 8 times a year, they'd play Vancouver 82 times in 2006-'07 and Minnesota 82 times in 2007-'08. Imagine the rivalries this would create! It would also really cut down on travel for Eastern Conference teams even more. The Islanders and Rangers wouldn't have to get on a plane for an entire regular season in the year they play each other!

To make it even better, OLN could then just show one matchup all season, instead of their current rotation of Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York Rangers, and Boston. Nobody wants to see any teams east of the Mississippi anyway, so I think it would be just fantastic if they broadcast the Flyers vs. the Rangers 30 times a season.

Dude, every player on every team would be dead halfway through the season. Talk about hatred! jesus!
I do like the idea though. A better idea would be for OLN to progress to this century. that channel and their hockey coverage freaking blows.

Al Wilson
11-29-2005, 08:17 PM
All you Avs fans put on a Sens Jersey.

It's not too late.

Mtbrncofn
11-29-2005, 09:34 PM
Isn't this fabulous? I've done us all a favor and put philly on ignore. !Booya!

Breck Bronc
11-29-2005, 10:00 PM
All you Avs fans put on a Sens Jersey.

It's not too late.?????

Ottawa is the best team in the league, by far, IMO, but the Avs are no slouch themselves.

I suggest you go buy an Ottawa Renegades jersey and move on to another board. It's not too late.

Al Wilson
11-29-2005, 10:52 PM
I suggest you go buy an Ottawa Renegades jersey and move on to another board. It's not too late.
That was weakHa!

Clockwork Orange
11-30-2005, 11:50 AM
All you Avs fans put on a Sens Jersey.

It's not too late.

The Sens are impressive this season, no doubt. But call us when you've actually won something that matters.

Hogan11
11-30-2005, 05:58 PM
I hate the freakin' Devils.

Hogan11
11-30-2005, 06:14 PM
Flyers up 1-0, thanks to Richards goal!!

Keep it up Boys! :thumbs:

Hogan11
11-30-2005, 06:21 PM
Sharp with a goal, up 2-0 now....GO FLYERS!!!

Hogan11
11-30-2005, 07:02 PM
I really hate the freakin' Devils

Hogan11
11-30-2005, 07:25 PM
YYyyyyyyeeeeeaaaahhhhhhhh!!!! F' The Devils!

Jori
11-30-2005, 07:46 PM
BIG NHL trade just came down....so far only Sportsnet.ca is reporting it.....

Boston trades Joe Thornton to San Jose for Brad Stuart, Marco Sturm and Wayne Primeau.

SoCalBronco
11-30-2005, 07:48 PM
BIG NHL trade just came down....so far only Sportsnet.ca is reporting it.....

Boston trades Joe Thornton to San Jose for Brad Stuart, Marco Sturm and Wayne Primeau.

yep. I just saw that on TSN. Huge.

PatsWin2002
11-30-2005, 08:34 PM
Yup...wow.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2242875

Clockwork Orange
11-30-2005, 09:42 PM
Wow. The Sharks just got a bonafide franchise player to entering his prime to build around. Nice move by San Jose.

Bronx33
12-01-2005, 10:33 AM
BIG NHL trade just came down....so far only Sportsnet.ca is reporting it.....

Boston trades Joe Thornton to San Jose for Brad Stuart, Marco Sturm and Wayne Primeau.


It will be interesting to see if he fits in....

Clockwork Orange
12-01-2005, 11:38 AM
It will be interesting to see if he fits in....

He'll fit in. The Sharks now have a dynamic 1-2 punch down the middle with Thornton & Marleau (who were picked #1 & #2 in the '97 draft) and have Selke finalist Alyn McCauley on their 3rd line. They've got talented wingers like Cheechoo and Michalek to go along with them. Great move by San Jose.

I'm now wondering if the Avs, who're in need of a 2nd line winger, can pry Murray or Samsonov out of there for a bag of magic beans.

Smiling Assassin27
12-01-2005, 11:39 AM
Sharks stole Thornton, IMO. Sharks had to do something, though.

Bronx33
12-01-2005, 12:31 PM
He'll fit in. The Sharks now have a dynamic 1-2 punch down the middle with Thornton & Marleau (who were picked #1 & #2 in the '97 draft) and have Selke finalist Alyn McCauley on their 3rd line. They've got talented wingers like Cheechoo and Michalek to go along with them. Great move by San Jose.

I'm now wondering if the Avs, who're in need of a 2nd line winger, can pry Murray or Samsonov out of there for a bag of magic beans.


Seems the sharks needed defensemen as well with 80 GA 3rd to last in the NHL so iam guessing they are not done trading, this move will help their GF which was 3rd to last as well.

alkemical
12-01-2005, 12:51 PM
if they need dmen, then why rid themselves of stewart?

Thorton has always been 'iffy' - he's not done what he's capable of

Jori
12-01-2005, 01:56 PM
They may not make the playoffs this year, but Brad Stuart will be forgotten quickly once the Sharks bring in Matt Carle. I think Carle will forgo his senior season and join San Jose next year.

Bronx33
12-01-2005, 03:17 PM
if they need dmen, then why rid themselves of stewart?

Thorton has always been 'iffy' - he's not done what he's capable of

Maybe another trade is coming up to fill the defensive problem?

alkemical
12-01-2005, 03:31 PM
they can take gonchar

SoCalBronco
12-01-2005, 03:52 PM
they can take gonchar

Unfortunately, I read that there is a clause in his contract that said he cant be traded to ANYONE in Year 1.

Sucks I know.

The entire organization's only real defensive defenseman is in Wilkes-Barre right now (Welch). How sad is that.

alkemical
12-01-2005, 04:03 PM
nope, brooks is one as well.

SoCalBronco
12-01-2005, 04:11 PM
nope, brooks is one as well.

Your right. I should have said competent defensive defenseman though instead.

Hooks is good for about 5 mental mistakes and 2 penalties per game.

I know you love the guy, and he was good back in 03-04, a very promising youngster but he doesnt fit in the new NHL. He's the kind of defenseman that the league is trying to kill off. He doesnt move well, he grabs, he hits, he's just a big physical ogre. I dont think he can survive in this new style of league. He's looked absolutely awful this year. He did look a bit better the last game when they paired him up with Whitney, but he's just been awful when he has been paired up with Gonchar or Jackman or Melichar. I think the future is Whitney and Welch.

Hopefully he can hold his own tonight against NYR.

alkemical
12-01-2005, 04:29 PM
See i think with brooks, is that he's doing "TOO" much in order to 'cover' for the other gaffe's that are going on with the team. He does have some lapses - but i don't think you can give up on a guy who can give a solid 10yrs in the league.

SJ Bronco
12-02-2005, 01:24 PM
:pfbbt: Today is the day we see our new shark....man we needed this!

SJ Bronco
12-02-2005, 01:26 PM
Seems the sharks needed defensemen as well with 80 GA 3rd to last in the NHL so iam guessing they are not done trading, this move will help their GF which was 3rd to last as well.
this was my thought. Our problem thus far has ben the defensemen, but our special teams needed a HUGE shot in the arm and we may have gotten that. The only problem, sturm was a fan favorite and my man P-Speed was hard to contain at times.

Bronx33
12-02-2005, 02:20 PM
The Calgary Flames gave a boost to its offence on Friday, acquiring forward Kristian Huselius from the Florida Panthers for defenceman Steve Montador and centre Dustin Johner.

Huselius, who scored 43 goals in his first two NHL seasons, was passed over by the league's 29 other teams after the Panthers placed him on waivers earlier this week.

The 27-year-old winger, with just five goals and eight points in 24 games, is making $1.216 million this season.

Montador, 25, has played in 94 careerNHL games, registering nine points and 201 PIM. He appeared in 20 of the Flames' 26 contests during the 2004 playoffs scoring one goal with two assists, averaging more than 17 minutes of ice time with a plus-4 rating. Montador is making $450,000 this season.

Clockwork Orange
12-02-2005, 04:08 PM
Washington trades goaltender Maxime Ouellet to Vancouver for a 5th rounder.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=145424&hubname=nhl

alkemical
12-02-2005, 04:27 PM
I heard the pens waved caron

SJ Bronco
12-03-2005, 11:03 AM
Thornton makes a diffrence 5 goals for a starving sharks offence 2 points on assists for Scott....not bad, can't wait to see more...

Bronx33
12-03-2005, 11:58 AM
Thornton makes a diffrence 5 goals for a starving sharks offence 2 points on assists for Scott....not bad, can't wait to see more...

Here is some writers view.
http://www.nhl.com/features/thornton_analysis120105.html

SoCalBronco
12-03-2005, 05:43 PM
Marc-Andre Fleury has been outstanding in goal so far. We'd be down 4-0 with Caron or T-Blow instead of being down 1-0 right now. Some really nice saves. Ofcourse, the defense is hanging him out to dry the entire first period, multiple turnovers in our own zone.

SoCalBronco
12-03-2005, 06:24 PM
Sid ties it up and comes close to putting them ahead a few seconds later.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Caps up 4-0 at the end of 2. Ovy with 1g and 3a, all 3 are primaries.

and I believe that as of now, with tonight's games still going on, AO and SC are tied with 29 points, 16 and 13 to 13 and 16.

Pezman
12-06-2005, 03:36 PM
Well, I got another set of free tix to go see the Ducks take on the Hurricanes tonight. I feel dirty not going to see the Avs play but hey, at least its hockey! The Ducks have been talking about trading Giguere lately, but their 6 game win streak has effectively stopped talks for awhile.

Clockwork Orange
12-06-2005, 03:39 PM
Well, I got another set of free tix to go see the Ducks take on the Hurricanes tonight. I feel dirty not going to see the Avs play but hey, at least its hockey! The Ducks have been talking about trading Giguere lately, but their 6 game win streak has effectively stopped talks for awhile.

You should go just to watch Eric Staal. That kid is dynamite.

Pezman
12-06-2005, 03:44 PM
You should go just to watch Eric Staal. That kid is dynamite.

I've been hearing he's been one of the best young centers to blossom in ages. Hard to believe the kid is only 21, but already considered one of the elites amongst his peers.

I expect this to be a pretty high scoring affair tonight since Carolina has had some serious problems with their goaltending lately. But I still feel dirty not watching the Avs. Clocky, would you go to rivals games if you were offered free tickets?

Clockwork Orange
12-06-2005, 03:50 PM
Clocky, would you go to rivals games if you were offered free tickets?

Absolutely. Hockey's hockey and it's always better in person. :yep:

Bronx33
12-06-2005, 04:28 PM
http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=414

DENVER, Colo. – The Colorado Avalanche Hockey Club announced today that it has recalled goaltender Vitaly Kolesnik (vih-TAL-ee, koh-LEHZ-nihk) from the club’s American Hockey League affiliate in Lowell, Mass.

Kolesnik, 26, a 6-2, 198-pound native of Ust-Kamenogorsk, Kazakhstan is 10-8-0 this season with the Lock Monsters, recording a 2.80 goals against average and a .916 save percentage along with a pair of shutouts.

He will be available to play tomorrow night when the Avalanche hosts the Boston Bruins.

alkemical
12-07-2005, 04:07 PM
according to kdka radio - mario was taken to the hospital with an irregular heartbeat -

LEMIEUX ENTERS HOSPITAL FOR OBSERVATION OF IRREGULAR HEARTBEAT
12/07/2005

Mario Lemieux was admitted to the hospital Wednesday for observation of an irregular heartbeat, it was announced by Penguins General Manager Craig Patrick.

Lemieux, who will be monitored in the hospital overnight, will miss Thursday’s game against the Minnesota Wild at Mellon Arena. His playing status will be day-to-day after that.

“Mario experienced an irregular heartbeat after practice today, and we thought the best precaution was to have him enter the hospital for observation,” Patrick said.

Lemieux, 40, has missed two games in recent weeks because of a stomach virus.

In 25 games this season, he has 7 goals and 14 assists for 21 points.

alkemical
12-07-2005, 04:14 PM
Rumor mill -- There's talk on Long Island that Mike Milbury is less than enthused with the play of defensemen Janne Niinimaa and Alexei Zhitnik and that Pittsburgh GM Craig Patrick might be willing to swap one of his offensive defensemen (Sergei Gonchar or Dick Tarnstrom) for some defensive stability. If that's the case, both GMs might be interested in Columbus Blue Jackets' stay-at-home defenseman Adam Foote.


The "black and gold" trade...
Bruins get: LeClair and Tarnstrom
Pens get: Isbister and Gill

#2
Islanders get: Palffy, Koltsov and Jackman
Pens get: Blake and Sopel

The "give a little, get a little (guy)" trade...
Tampa Bay gets: Recchi, Prijeta and Orpik
Pens get: St. Loius and Sarich

#4
St. Louis gets: Malone and Gonchar
Pens get: Tkachuk and Backman

"Craig Patrick seriously intent... moves encouraged prior to Olympic break; more to come.

phillybroncosnut
12-07-2005, 04:23 PM
Wow, it would be more then fine with me if the Pens took St Louis away from TB!

alkemical
12-07-2005, 04:26 PM
Well they may need some O since mario is out

Clockwork Orange
12-07-2005, 06:07 PM
Ovechkin just scored a beauty for his 17th goal of the season.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-07-2005, 06:11 PM
and I had gone to get dinner and missed it

Al Wilson
12-07-2005, 09:47 PM
Ovechkin just scored a beauty for his 17th goal of the season.
........and they lost again.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-08-2005, 04:18 PM
........and they lost again.

Ok. That's kind of the point this year.

SoCalBronco
12-08-2005, 06:42 PM
Ok. That's kind of the point this year.

From what ive been watching all year, thats apparently what we are trying to accomplish as well.

Halfway through tonight's game, its 3-0 Wild and we have 8 shots. Sad thing is, the way they are playing, it could be 5-0 easily, T-Blow is actually having a good night.

Its ok. I already have my eyes on another No. 1 overall pick.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-08-2005, 07:09 PM
Its ok. I already have my eyes on another No. 1 overall pick.

How many more will it take for the Pens to be competitive?

Bronx33
12-08-2005, 08:45 PM
How many more will it take for the Pens to be competitive?

Pens still have some work to do in the rebuilding process but the foundation is there.

Clockwork Orange
12-08-2005, 08:51 PM
Pens still have some work to do in the rebuilding process but the foundation is there.

They need to spend some high picks on some blue chip defensemen.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-08-2005, 08:57 PM
They've got Whitney to go with their two franchise fowards and Fleury in net.

alkemical
12-09-2005, 10:37 AM
Brooks was a high pick as well

Clockwork Orange
12-09-2005, 05:15 PM
Ovechkin nets his 18th of the season.

Breck Bronc
12-09-2005, 05:52 PM
God, look at all those empty seats at the Meadowlands. It looks like an Expos game. I guess an interconference matchup of the 2001 Stanley Cup finalists isn't a big draw. Maybe there's bad weather tonight in NJ?

Hogan11
12-09-2005, 06:10 PM
God, look at all those empty seats at the Meadowlands. It looks like an Expos game.

Better get used to that Marlin fan.

Breck Bronc
12-09-2005, 06:13 PM
Better get used to that Marlin fan.I was an Expos fan. I'm not a Marlin fan, just Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle.

And the Meadowlands look like Olympic Stadium tonight.

Breck Bronc
12-09-2005, 06:14 PM
Avs up 3-0 on New Jersey after one period.

Gotta like the scoring depth we have this year. And if the defense can play like it has the past 4 periods the goaltending will improve dramatically, like we've seen from Kolesnick so far.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-09-2005, 08:15 PM
Ovechkin nets his 18th of the season.

Plus an assist on Heward's goal with .3 seconds left in the game.

32 points in 28 games.

Clockwork Orange
12-09-2005, 08:24 PM
Plus an assist on Heward's goal with .3 seconds left in the game.

32 points in 28 games.

That puts him 3 up on Crosby for the rookie scoring lead.

Marek Svatos had 2 assists tonight, he's 3rd in rookie scoring just 2 points behind Crosby.

SJ Bronco
12-11-2005, 11:08 AM
sat in the corner first row by the class for the sharks game vs the hurricanes, never sat that close before, man that was the greatest game of my life. Im beat ....

GO SHARKIES!!!

SoCalBronco
12-12-2005, 07:26 PM
I feel really bad for Fleury. He was outstanding tonight, stopping 36 of 39 Detroit shots, but its really unfair for any goaltender to be behind this defense. Gonchar gave away a goal for free tonight, just hung his goalie out to dry. I ****ing hate Sergei Gonchar. If we could get Bob's mom in exchange it would be a steal.

Bronx33
12-12-2005, 07:56 PM
sat in the corner first row by the class for the sharks game vs the hurricanes, never sat that close before, man that was the greatest game of my life. Im beat ....

GO SHARKIES!!!


Being up close is great but if i had a choice of seats my favorite is dead center lower bowl about 10 rows up, your right though being up close give you a whole new feel to the game.

alkemical
12-13-2005, 07:56 AM
I feel really bad for Fleury. He was outstanding tonight, stopping 36 of 39 Detroit shots, but its really unfair for any goaltender to be behind this defense. Gonchar gave away a goal for free tonight, just hung his goalie out to dry. I ****ing hate Sergei Gonchar. If we could get Bob's mom in exchange it would be a steal.


Fluery made some UNBELIEVABLE saves. he's showing talent now. I hope we don't 'break' him.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-13-2005, 06:29 PM
Gonchar gave away a goal for free tonight, just hung his goalie out to dry. I ****ing hate Sergei Gonchar. If we could get Bob's mom in exchange it would be a steal.

Would Shaone Morrisson, Jeff Schultz and Michail Yunkov be acceptable?

SoCalBronco
12-13-2005, 07:03 PM
Would Shaone Morrisson, Jeff Schultz and Michail Yunkov be acceptable?

Just as I was ready to reply to this post, Gonch slips and falls to the ice leading to a 3 on 1 and goal.

SoCalBronco
12-13-2005, 07:20 PM
Fleury is such a ****ing pimp. What a great save there.

SoCalBronco
12-13-2005, 07:23 PM
He is playing out of the world right now. This is amazing.

Mtbrncofn
12-13-2005, 09:43 PM
SoCal, you should really have a hockey avatar up or something. ;) I thought for sure you'd be sportin' Sid the Kid sometime.

SoCalBronco
12-13-2005, 10:15 PM
SoCal, you should really have a hockey avatar up or something. ;) I thought for sure you'd be sportin' Sid the Kid sometime.

I had him and Mario up there a few weeks ago. I'll probably have Sid up there again after the official end of the college football season.

alkemical
12-14-2005, 08:15 AM
man MAF should earn avatar time

FADERPROOF
12-14-2005, 01:59 PM
I feel really bad for Fleury. He was outstanding tonight, stopping 36 of 39 Detroit shots, but its really unfair for any goaltender to be behind this defense. Gonchar gave away a goal for free tonight, just hung his goalie out to dry. I ****ing hate Sergei Gonchar. If we could get Bob's mom in exchange it would be a steal.


Wasnt it Gonchar that, a couple year ago in the playoffs, mishandled the puck in his own zone and turned it over for the game-winning shot?

This was when he was a Washington Capital, I'm thinking it might've been against the Flyers but it was the game-winning series clinching goal that he just gave to the other team.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-14-2005, 02:15 PM
Wasnt it Gonchar that, a couple year ago in the playoffs, mishandled the puck in his own zone and turned it over for the game-winning shot?

This was when he was a Washington Capital, I'm thinking it might've been against the Flyers but it was the game-winning series clinching goal that he just gave to the other team.

No, it was against the Pens. Another in a long line of series defeats the Pens have handed the Caps over the years.

alkemical
12-14-2005, 02:19 PM
I consider getting gonchar the karmic payback for that

SoCalBronco
12-14-2005, 07:01 PM
I consider getting gonchar the karmic payback for that

Yeah I think Herc was selling us snake oil on purpose as revenge for all those playoff series in 90s, esp. the ones when the Caps were ahead 3-1.(Just kidding, Herc) :)

Seriously though, the guy has just fallen unbelievably far. He doesnt have any confidence. I dont know what to do about him. Obviously at 5 million a season, no one is going to take him off our hands, even for scrub in return. Sergei is just going to have to fight through it. Just has to keep fighting. BTW Josh, I heard Michel Therrien from WBS is going to take over possibly today or tomorrow and Edzo is finally going to step aside. Still isnt going to make a difference playoff wise, no way we can make up that kind of ground even with several months to go. We just dug ourselves too deep a whole and despite Therrien being a disciplinarian, we still dont have the talent on defense. Its just not there no matter who is behind the bench. Its a good move though. I like Edzo as a person, but the guys arent playing for him anymore and this record is just abominable for the money they invested this year.

Bronx33
12-14-2005, 08:10 PM
http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20040304/olczyk_82545.jpg
Thing getting sticky in P town.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=146965&hubname=nhl

SN.ca Staff

12/14/2005 4:01:57 PM

In the wake of last night's 3-0 loss to the St. Louis Blues, rumours continue to swirl in Pittsburgh about the demise of head coach Ed Olczyk.

The speculation that there could be a coaching change in Pittsburgh heated up considerably after last week's 5-0 home-ice loss to the Minnesota Wild, but abated briefly on the weekend after Pittsburgh scored an impressive victory on home ice over the Colorado Avalanche on Saturday night.

But last night’s shutout loss to one of the weakest teams in the league has renewed the feeling that Penguins' owner Mario Lemieux and general manager Craig Patrick may be on the verge of making a coaching change.

Sources suggest they have tabbed Michel Therrien, who is coaching the Penguins' farm team in Wilkes Barre, as the new coach if they decide to pull the trigger on Olczyk.

Lemieux and Patrick have been intensely loyal to Olczyk and firing the coach is not something they want to do, but pressure is mounting to do something to get the Penguin team pointed in the right direction. The Penguins have a home-and-home with the Buffalo Sabres on Friday and Saturday.



Sources suggest a coaching change could be made before that, but other sources said that two-game set with the Sabres will be the determining factor in whether to make a move.

Expectations for this team soared in the off-season when Pittsburgh won the Sidney Crosby lottery and then signed a bevy of free agents, pushing the payroll far beyond what anyone anticipated the Penguins would do. But they haven’t been getting the results on the ice - Pittsburgh ownership budgeted to make the playoffs this season -- and sources suggest something is going to give.

That something, more often than not, is a coaching change.

Meanwhile, in Boston, the media is questioning the future of Bruins’ head coach Mike Sullivan.

Bronx33
12-14-2005, 08:27 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=146849&hubname=nhl

Canadian Press

12/13/2005 8:38:14 PM

NEW YORK (AP) - Vancouver Canucks goalie Dan Cloutier will miss at least the rest of the regular season because of a knee injury that will require surgery.

Cloutier partially tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee when Anaheim forward Rob Niedermayer ran into him during the first period of a Nov. 20 game. Cloutier finished that game and even dressed as Alex Auld's backup two days later against Chicago.

Cloutier was scratched for the following seven games with the hope the knee would heal on its own. He had been trying to rehab for the last three weeks and was even back on the ice Sunday, but team doctors finally decided the ligament, which is partially attached to the bone, requires surgery.

"We felt that at this time it's something that we couldn't rely on to hold up through the entire season given that he has to go up and down on it all the time," general manager Dave Nonis said Tuesday night before the Canucks played the New York Rangers.

Cloutier will have the operation Thursday and then be sidelined at least four months.



"There is a chance he could be back for the playoffs depending on how quickly he rehabs and what kind of healer he is," Nonis said. "It's a possibility for sure. I know he'll work as hard as he possibly can to get back."

The Canucks did get some good news Tuesday.

Matt Cooke returned to the lineup after missing 17 games with a broken jaw. The forward was injured during practice Nov. 1, but was back on the ice wearing a full face shield against the Rangers.

Markus Naslund also played, despite aggravating a groin injury Friday in a win over Ottawa. Naslund, Vancouver's leading scorer, didn't practise Monday and was questionable for the game.

Auld made his ninth straight start and is in line to play again at Philadelphia on Thursday when the Canucks wrap up a brief Eastern swing. He is 10-6-1 with a 2.61 goals-against average and .907 save percentage in his first full NHL season.

The Canucks also recalled recently acquired Maxime Ouellet from the AHL on Tuesday to serve as Auld's backup. Rob McVicar had been up as the backup, but was returned to Victoria of the ECHL earlier this week.

Canucks coach Marc Crawford said Tuesday that Ouellet is more NHL ready should Vancouver need someone to spell Auld.

"We'll see how things go," Crawford said. "We haven't had a tough schedule the last little while.

"Now we play every second day until Christmas. That would be a little bit of a load if Alex had to play all of that."

Vancouver acquired Ouellet from Washington on Dec. 2 for a fifth-round pick in next year's draft. He was 2-1 in three games with Manitoba before being recalled.

Nonis said the Canucks are not necessarily in the market for a more established NHL goalie. Cloutier was placed on the long-term injury list, giving Vancouver $2.5 million US of salary cap space.

"We're not in any hurry," he said. "I think Alex has proven that he can play at this level and he can play a number of games at this level.

"If something comes along that will help us and make us a stronger team, then we'll do it. We're not going to make a change just to make it."

Nonis also dispelled rumours he has spoken to Florida GM Mike Keenan about a trade that would bring goalie Roberto Luongo to Vancouver.

"That rumour has been out there for a long time," he said. "I can tell you that there is nothing to it.

"Mike has never talked to me about his players."

Nonis said Cloutier's surgery will likely be reconstructive even though the ligament is attached to the bone. Cloutier has not been bothered by the injury recently, and if it weren't for an MRI detecting the problem, he probably would still be playing.

"Dan does feel a little uncomfortable when he gets into certain positions on the ice," Nonis said, "and if he does blow it out completely it could really do more serious damage to the knee joint."

Hercules Rockefeller
12-14-2005, 11:03 PM
2 more assists for Ovechkin tonight

SoCalBronco
12-14-2005, 11:13 PM
2 more assists for Ovechkin tonight

Yeah i watched that third period, great effort from the caps to come from behind and pull it out at the end. Esp. good penalty killing.

alkemical
12-15-2005, 09:34 AM
socal,

I'd be happy with therrian - but i think not only a coach, but we have the wrong mix of people. I'd rather have signed foote than gonchar - Edzo did good with young guys, but i don't think he carries weight with the vets. Not to mention the supposed 'club mario' atmosphere in pitt.

SoCalBronco
12-15-2005, 11:03 AM
socal,

I'd be happy with therrian - but i think not only a coach, but we have the wrong mix of people. I'd rather have signed foote than gonchar - Edzo did good with young guys, but i don't think he carries weight with the vets. Not to mention the supposed 'club mario' atmosphere in pitt.

Foote isnt having a good year either. I think Therrian being there will help alot with Gonch. He wont be able to get away with being lazy. Ive heard Therrian is crazy. That's probably good for this team. There is alot of laziness and lack of effort. I think CP understands that the Club Mario atmosphere hurt this team, im glad they canned Randy Hillier in particular as well. That should help on that issue. We are going to go to a defensive system now. That in addition to MAF will really help to cut down on goals given up. Weve already shown that despite having some talent out there and an offensive system we cant put up the types of numbers we need to, so its not a big loss on the offensive side really. We werent scoring anyway even when Palffy, LeClair and 66 were in the lineup.

alkemical
12-15-2005, 11:25 AM
Foote isnt having a good year either. I think Therrian being there will help alot with Gonch. He wont be able to get away with being lazy. Ive heard Therrian is crazy. That's probably good for this team. There is alot of laziness and lack of effort. I think CP understands that the Club Mario atmosphere hurt this team, im glad they canned Randy Hillier in particular as well. That should help on that issue. We are going to go to a defensive system now. That in addition to MAF will really help to cut down on goals given up. Weve already shown that despite having some talent out there and an offensive system we cant put up the types of numbers we need to, so its not a big loss on the offensive side really. We werent scoring anyway even when Palffy, LeClair and 66 were in the lineup.


I guess, would it really matter whom the coach is when the owner is on the bench is where i'm going......

Bronx33
12-15-2005, 01:35 PM
By Mike Brehm, USA TODAY
NHL coaches are quicker with the hook this season.
Florida's Roberto Luongo makes a save. The Panthers goaltender has been pulled from five games this season. Florida's Roberto Luongo makes a save. The Panthers goaltender has been pulled from five games this season.
By Wilfredo Lee, AP

As goals-against averages swell because of smaller pads and offense-friendly rules, goaltenders are being pulled once every 5.6 games. They were pulled once every 7.2 games in 2003-04. (Related item: Who's doing the pulling)

If this pace keeps up, there could be 28% more in-game goaltending changes this season:

• Of 80 changes through Tuesday, 61 were coach's decisions. Nineteen were the result of injuries. Only the Philadelphia Flyers haven't made a switch.

• Florida's Roberto Luongo has been pulled five times in 28 starts, matching his total in 72 starts in 2003-04 when he was a Vezina Trophy finalist. St. Louis' Patrick Lalime, pulled four times, was sent to the minors Tuesday.

• Anaheim's Jean-Sebastien Giguere has left three games with an injury, including when he returned too soon from a strained hamstring. Buffalo's Mika Noronen was replaced during a shootout when he strained his groin muscle.

• The Atlanta Thrashers have changed goalies six times, three because of injuries, but they have forced opponents to switch seven times.

Goalies are more vulnerable because a crackdown on restraining penalties is allowing players to charge the net with speed.

Scoring is up 24%, and shutouts are down 55% to the lowest per-game rate since 1992-93.

Many individual goalie stats are taking a hit. Luongo sports a once-gaudy 3.30 goals-against average.

Boston's Andrew Raycroft, the 2003-04 rookie of the year, is at 3.46. Dallas' Marty Turco, whose career average had been 1.91, is at 2.55 this season.

But Turco has won 12 of his last 14. Evaluating a goalie's worth might have returned to who makes the big save at the right time.

"You're going have to let things roll (off your back) a lot better and continue just to try to make the difference for your team every night, whether it's giving up one goal or four," Turco said in a conference call.

"Worrying about stats is kind of out the window right now."

How many times each team has pulled its goalie this season (through Tuesday), how many times its opponent's goalie has left the game and why:
Team

Switches

Coach's
decision

Injury

Opponent
switches

Coach's
decision

Injury
Anaheim

5

2

3

2

1

1
Atlanta

6

3

3

7

6

1
Boston

1

1

0

3

3

0
Buffalo

3

2

1

3

2

1
Calgary

2

2

0

1

1

0
Carolina

4

2

2

4

3

1
Chicago

1

1

0

5

4

1
Colorado

2

2

0

4

3

1
Columbus

5

5

0

1

0

1
Dallas

1

1

0

6

4

2
Detroit

3

1

2

3

3

0
Edmonton

4

4

0

2

2

0
Florida

6

6

0

2

1

1
Los
Angeles

2

2

0

4

4

0
Minnesota

1

1

0

1

1

0
Montreal

2

2

0

1

0

1
Nashville

1

0

1

0

0

0
N.Y.
Islanders

2

1

1

1

1

0
N.Y.
Rangers

2

1

1

5

3

2
New Jersey

2

1

1

3

3

0
Ottawa

1

1

0

4

4

0
Philadelphia

0

0

0

1

1

0
Phoenix

1

1

0

4

4

0
Pittsburgh

5

5

0

0

0

0
San Jose

4

1

3

2

2

0
St. Louis

4

4

0

1

0

1
Tampa Bay

3

3

0

3

1

2
Toronto

1

1

0

2

2

0
Vancouver

4

3

1

1

0

1
Washington

2

2

0

4

2

2

Bronx33
12-15-2005, 05:32 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=147082&hubname=

They've got more money to spend next season.

Commissioner Gary Bettman, as expected, told owners at the board of governors meeting Thursday that current revenue projections will see the salary cap rise to somewhere between a low of $40 million US and a high of $45 million.

The cap was $39 million this season.

''It does provide a different landscape,'' Leafs general manager John Ferguson Jr., said after the two-day meetings wrapped up Thursday. ''We negotiated some deals last summer and stayed out of some, frankly, because of that uncertainty.



''It doesn't sound like it's going up a whole lot if it ends up on the lower end but if it ends up on the higher end we'd have a little more room to spend providing our budget would permit us to go to that number.

''And I think it's safe to say we'd be approaching it.''

More precisely, Bettman told owners Thursday that current projections call for revenues to be just over $2 billion this season. Under the CBA, the next season's salary cap is based on the previous year's revenue total.

Revenues of exactly $2 billion for this year would correspond to a $41.6-million salary cap next season, $2.1 billion in revenue would give a $43.4-million cap, and $2.2 billion would bring on a $45.3-million cap. If attendance dips in the coming months and revenues instead total $1.9 billion, the cap would be $39.8 million next season.

''I know historically the projections we get at this point in the season, they could still be two, three, four per cent off,'' Bettman said after the four-hour session. ''And so what we did is, with some degree of comfort and intuitiveness, said this is where we think we're going to be. But I think it looks pretty clear that it's going to start with a two ($2 billion or more).

''Clearly the cap is going up this year and that's good for everybody.''

It's certainly good news for the players. The maximum salary this season was $7.8 million under the $39-million cap because no player can earn more than 20 per cent of the cap figure. A $45-million cap would raise the maximum to $9 million.

But more importantly, the 12 per cent escrow payments the players have been forking over since the beginning of the season could all be coming back if revenues end up over $2.05 billion.

''It goes back to the players,'' said Bettman. ''If you were making a million dollars and we had $100,000 or $60,000, you get it back with interest. The money's not just sitting in cash in a vault.

''The money is being appropriately invested.''

If revenues hit $1.9 billion this season, the escrow payment drops to 6.9 per cent and if revenue hits $2 billion, the escrow payment would only be 1.7 per cent.

Other issues on the agenda Thursday:

- The owners ratified minor changes to the penalty shootout, allowing as of now a more expanded role for video review. This comes as a result of Jeremy Roenick's ''double-hit'' earlier this season when he scored on what appeared to be two shots on goal. Now refs will do a video review on any controversial shootout goal.

- Sources indicated a hot topic was revenue sharing, with some owners complaining about the way it's going to be decided although there's nothing that can be changed now that it's in the CBA. The top 10 revenue teams pay into the revenue sharing fund and the bottom 15 clubs share it.

- There was no decision taken on expanding to 20 teams for the playoffs instead of the current 16.

''We made a lot changes this year and as it relates to the scheduling format as well, everybody said, `Let's take our time,''' Bettman said. ''We'll keep it as a back-burner issue. We'll look at it, but not now.

''Let the season play out as it is and to the extent that we want to make any adjustments, we can do it in the future.''

- Colin Campbell, the NHL's director of hockey operations, addressed owners on the new rules and crackdown on hooking and holding.

''Everyone wants us to stay the course,'' Campbell said. ''It has been tough at times. There have been some tough calls and calls that have certainly decided games late but everyone wants us to stay the course.''

- A report on the state of franchises in St. Louis (still for sale), Anaheim (new ownership) and Pittsburgh. The Penguins need a new arena within a year or they're gone. The Penguins are hoping to win a gaming licence for slot machines which they'll use to fund the new arena.

''We've been saying that for a long time and we have a plan that's tied to gaming,'' said Penguins president Ken Sawyer. ''But it will be an unbelievable plan, the best in the history of Pennsylvania for the public sector. So we think it's a no-brainer. But it will take at least a year to find out if our gaming partner wins the licence.

''We're not leaving Pittsburgh until June 2007 at the earliest.''

But the big story of the meetings was the salary cap. GMs must now adjust to the new landscape. Most of them thought the cap was going to go down next season.

''I think everybody in this business was probably looking at next year the cap possibly coming down or staying the same,'' said St. Louis Blues GM Larry Pleau. ''Now all of our thought processes looking forward is definitely going to be different.''

Not all clubs will use the new limit next season. Some teams have budgets and won't spend to the new maximum.

''That's absolutely correct,'' said Montreal Canadiens owner George Gillett. ''We're operating in an economic reality. We're trying to recover from huge losses over the years. And I don't think that you recover by automatically going to the high end of the game.''

Much of the same from Ottawa Senators president Roy Mlakar.

''We've always worked under a budget,'' Mlakar said. ''When you look at Ottawa, we've always produced a budget for ownership and tried to be responsible, understanding that we're a small-market team. We're trying to build our revenues, we're doing a pretty good job of that. We're probably in the middle of the pack. And now we're top 10 in attendance and that's good news.''

But spending up to $45 million next season is likely not in the cards, even if it means keeping free-agent star defencemen Zdeno Chara and Wade Redden.

''We're going to have to make a long run in the playoffs to be a financially successful franchise,'' said Mlakar. ''So we've got some hard decisions for sure.''

Columbus Blue Jackets GM Doug MacLean said the new cap figure won't influence things too much in his case either.

''It's not going to affect us because we're not going to get there anyway. But it's always interesting to see what the competition is going to be though and what the gap (in payrolls) is going to be.''

But for a team like the Leafs, life is good again.

''Hopefully it will restore a little more of the competitive advantage we had on the financing side which will be nice,'' said MLSE president and CEO Richard Peddie.

Mtbrncofn
12-16-2005, 10:44 PM
I found the higher cap to be a pleasant surprise. Great news, IMO.

SJ Bronco
12-17-2005, 12:25 PM
after a few weeks of super joey T, i have just one comment:

WHAT THE HELL WAS BOSTON THINKING!!

This guy makes our team so much better its not even funny. His passing alone was worth the three guys we gave up!

What he did to the caps last night was just wrong! 5 goals a game since he got here...man...im getting to excited, watch out pacific!

SJ Bronco
12-19-2005, 12:16 AM
I hate the mighty Ducks, that goal was B.S., they gotta come to the tank on tuesday, our crowed has got something for em!

Bronx33
12-19-2005, 01:13 PM
after a few weeks of super joey T, i have just one comment:

WHAT THE HELL WAS BOSTON THINKING!!

This guy makes our team so much better its not even funny. His passing alone was worth the three guys we gave up!

What he did to the caps last night was just wrong! 5 goals a game since he got here...man...im getting to excited, watch out pacific!


I said oconnell was a idiot to do that trade the sharks made out like bandits and now we have thornton to worry about in our Conference. :gus:

Bronx33
12-20-2005, 10:01 AM
Great fight here gratton vs peters....
Please don't link direct on these just down load em.

http://hfhelper.hockeyfights.com/cf1031/051219_peters_gratton.wmv

Raidersbane
12-21-2005, 12:03 AM
I miss Peter the Great!

I miss Adam Foote!

And I miss Saint Patrick!

There, I just needed to say that........

SJ Bronco
12-22-2005, 03:08 PM
Revenge against the mighty fuqs was sweet, they got run out of the building. St louis on friday, could be fun.

Looking ahead, got the Avs at the months end...

alkemical
12-22-2005, 03:14 PM
I miss Peter the Great!

I miss Adam Foote!

And I miss Saint Patrick!

There, I just needed to say that........


I miss mario from 10 years ago

i miss kovie

i miss robert lang

i miss kasper

i miss naslund



damn my pens suck

Breck Bronc
12-22-2005, 08:45 PM
The Avs are in need of a major shake up. They just played one of the worst periods of hockey I've ever seen (2nd Period vs. Minnesota). If not for Peter Budaj's excellent goaltending the Wild would have scored 7 or 8 goals in that period alone.

The defense is turning over the puck left and right. Liles, Vaananen, Blake, Clark, Breisbois, it doesn't matter who's out there, they're getting burned.

I'm also getting tired of watching Tanguay play. He makes so many little mistakes out there, it's amazing. He's got all the talent in the world, has accomplished so much in his career, yet he's always fugging up. I'd start entertaining trade offers for Alex Tanguay if I were Pierre Lacroix. This season is a lost cause, anyway. It's obvious we're a last place team in the Northwest Division.

I hope Aebsicher gets traded after the roster freeze, also. Budaj and Kolesnik are by far the better goalies, at least this season.

Jori
12-22-2005, 09:35 PM
I have no comment Breck other then I love your sig!

Mtbrncofn
12-22-2005, 09:42 PM
The Avs are in need of a major shake up. They just played one of the worst periods of hockey I've ever seen (2nd Period vs. Minnesota). If not for Peter Budaj's excellent goaltending the Wild would have scored 7 or 8 goals in that period alone.

The defense is turning over the puck left and right. Liles, Vaananen, Blake, Clark, Breisbois, it doesn't matter who's out there, they're getting burned.

I'm also getting tired of watching Tanguay play. He makes so many little mistakes out there, it's amazing. He's got all the talent in the world, has accomplished so much in his career, yet he's always fugging up. I'd start entertaining trade offers for Alex Tanguay if I were Pierre Lacroix. This season is a lost cause, anyway. It's obvious we're a last place team in the Northwest Division.

I hope Aebsicher gets traded after the roster freeze, also. Budaj and Kolesnik are by far the better goalies, at least this season.

Lots of valid points there. I'd agree about Tang, and I'm a huge fan of Hejduk but man he's been almost non-existent this year as well. I also echo the sentiments about Aebi.

I'll take the 2 points even if it was ugly and close and the illegal goal was thrown in for good measure. :)

Breck Bronc
12-22-2005, 10:50 PM
I have no comment Breck other then I love your sig!Thanks. I had to pay tribute to Borat (Sacha Baron Cohen is a comedic genius). Hopefully Vitaly Kolesnik can live up to Borat's high standards in coming to America ;) . So far I think he's played pretty well, but his 3-3 record doesn't show it.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-22-2005, 10:52 PM
At the Avs game tonight, fun game to watch though I definitely thought the Wild played a better game.

That said, another 4 points (19 G and 19A) for Ovechkin tonight and the only goal in the shootout. 5 points clear with a game in hand.

Clockwork Orange
12-22-2005, 10:59 PM
At the Avs game tonight, fun game to watch though I definitely thought the Wild played a better game.

That said, another 4 points (19 G and 19A) for Ovechkin tonight and the only goal in the shootout. 5 points clear with a game in hand.

I caught the end of that one and the shootout. Ovechkin was worth the price of admission by himself yet again. That shootout goal was a thing of beauty. He gave the little kick fake and then fired a laser over Garnett's shoulder.

I can't wait to see what this kid can do once they put some talent around him.

Breck Bronc
12-22-2005, 11:00 PM
I shudder to think where the Avs would be if not for Marek Svatos.

There's only a few guys on the club who are pulling their weight; Sakic, Kolesnik, Budaj, Tanguay (needs to pick it up more, though), Laperierre, Turgeon, Laaksonen, Brunette.

There's only one guy that's going above and beyond expectations; Marek Svatos.

And there's a whole bunch of guys who are playing bad hockey either lately or for the entire season; Aebischer, Hejduk, Blake, Liles, Vaananen, Brisebois, Skrastins, May, Hinote, Boughner.

Maybe I'm being too hard on the defensemen since they are putting up a lot of points, but it just seems like they are leaving their goaltenders out to dry way too often. With Aebischer giving up so many soft goals you can't also expect him to face so many good scoring chances. At least Budaj and Kolesnik are not giving up cheap goals and making tough saves more often than not.

Clockwork Orange
12-22-2005, 11:04 PM
That game should have been over in the 2nd period. The Avs got completely outplayed and outworked, but they got bailed out by Peter Budaj. He stopped 18 of 19 shots and the majority of them were high quality chances.

Of course the Avs got a major break when no one decided to go upstairs on McLean's "goal." I can't believe that Roloson didn't raise hell with the referees and make them go upstairs on that one.

I guess you take the breaks as you get them, but the Avs got away with taking a period off and a goal that wasn't a goal. Not exactly an encouraging win to say the least.

Breck Bronc
12-22-2005, 11:08 PM
That game should have been over in the 2nd period. The Avs got completely outplayed and outworked, but they got bailed out by Peter Budaj. He stopped 18 of 19 shots and the majority of them were high quality chances.

Of course the Avs got a major break when no one decided to go upstairs on McLean's "goal." I can't believe that Roloson didn't raise hell with the referees and make them go upstairs on that one.

I guess you take the breaks as you get them, but the Avs got away with taking a period off and a goal that wasn't a goal. Not exactly an encouraging win to say the least.And a questionable penalty on Willie Mitchell for shooting the puck into the stands with 2 minutes left in the game, leading to a 5-on-3 for the last 2 minutes. (I couldn't believe the Avs were trying to score there when all they had to do was play keep away; by shooting the puck they gave Minnesota a chance to gain possesion and try to tie the game)

For all the times as fans we complain about the referees losing the game for our teams, this time I can say my team got lucky because of the refs. I'll take it, that's for sure.

alkemical
12-23-2005, 10:05 AM
ovechkin is awesome - if you caps want talent, please take gonchar back... PLEASE!!!!

phillybroncosnut
12-23-2005, 10:25 AM
For the Faggy Sens fan!

BTW....... Flyers beat the Sens last night. So, 2 games between to Sens and Flyers thus far..... Flyers 2-0.

Bronx33
12-23-2005, 12:31 PM
For the Faggy Sens fan!

BTW....... Flyers beat the Sens last night. So, 2 games between to Sens and Flyers thus far..... Flyers 2-0.


That was a fun game to watch.

alkemical
12-23-2005, 01:59 PM
http://www.nhl.com/columns/wigge/fleury122305.html

A Penguin other than
Crosby draws rave reviews
One night it was Detroit. The next stop was a night later in St. Louis. Two pretty tough stops around the National Hockey League over the last decade.

It wasn't surprising that the same kid stole the show each night.

"Unbelievable. Incredible," said Pittsburgh Penguins winger Marc Recchi. "What can I say, 'He's the next Great One.' "

Mtbrncofn
12-23-2005, 10:19 PM
Boy it'd be nice if the Avs could actually get a good rhythm established. I'm sick of win 1, lose 3 or win one, lose one. Brunette and Laaks both seem to shine against their old team, thank goodness.

I think we got paid back for our gift goal last night. Did anyone else think they looked a bit sluggish out there for awhile? And why give Budaj back to back starts? I just don't understand the goalie equation these days. I can understand keeping Aebi out for now, but I thought for sure Kolesnick would be in there tonight.

I just keep feeling like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop....somehow, somewhere.

SoCalBronco
12-26-2005, 01:44 PM
Crosby closing the gap on Ovechkin with 2 goals and an assist against Philly on Friday. Now that Therrian has him back at Center, his point droughts shouldnt be as long.

Mogulseeker
12-26-2005, 07:05 PM
**** that ****, Aebischer....

God Quinville, you're killing me

Mogulseeker
12-26-2005, 07:21 PM
****... im telling you keeping aebi out was a big mistake

Clockwork Orange
12-26-2005, 09:56 PM
That was a strange one.

Kolesnik gives up two goals on two shots (the 2nd being as soft a goal as you'll ever see) and gets pulled. Budaj gives up a pretty soft one and the Avs are down 3-0. They then score 3 of their own and Curtis Joseph gets pulled. That's the first time I've ever seen both starting goaltenders get the hook in the first period.

Thanks to an empty net the Avs ended up with three shorthanded goals in the game (two of them into the empty net). Just a weird game, but I'll take the win any way we can get it.

Svatos scored his 20th of the season tonight, which tied Chris Drury for the Avs rookie record.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-27-2005, 07:36 PM
Ovy with 1 and 1 tonight.

FYI Avs fans- Clement and Jones both said during the 2nd Intermission that they thought Kolzig would end up in Colorado sometime before the trading deadline.

SoCalBronco
12-27-2005, 08:05 PM
Crosby with a really nice assist from his knees behind the net. Still a few points behind Ovechkin but his move back to center is paying off. As usual, the team blows a great performance by Fleury with an OT loss to Toronto.

Al Wilson
12-27-2005, 08:36 PM
For the Faggy Sens fan!

BTW....... Flyers beat the Sens last night. So, 2 games between to Sens and Flyers thus far..... Flyers 2-0.
Just cause you hate the sens, doesn't mean you have to be a dick and call people names.

Wow, sens lost 2 games:laugh:

There's what? 40 games left?

We already secured first place even with our injuries.

Jori
12-28-2005, 07:42 AM
Kolzig makes almost five million dollars. The Avs can't have more then two million in cap space. The Caps would have to take guys like Boughner and Aebischer to make this work. Still, considering Kolzig's age, this would only be a temporary fix.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-28-2005, 07:48 AM
Kolzig makes almost five million dollars. The Avs can't have more then two million in cap space. The Caps would have to take guys like Boughner and Aebischer to make this work. Still, considering Kolzig's age, this would only be a temporary fix.

Every day that passes, he would take up less and less cap space to the team that trades for him. It's also a given that if the Caps traded him, they'd take back a vet contract to help lessen the blow money-wise.

I still don't think he's traded though, and it's going to cost someone much more than fans think it would take to get Kolzig if a team does make a move for him.

Clockwork Orange
12-28-2005, 12:04 PM
The Avs sent Kolesnik back to Lowell today. So either a trade is in the making or they've decided to go back to the Aebischer/Budaj combo. I'm betting on the latter.

alkemical
12-28-2005, 12:42 PM
You can have t-bo!!!! PLEASE!!!!!

Jori
12-28-2005, 01:20 PM
You can have t-bo!!!! PLEASE!!!!!
Been there done that :laugh:

The hot rumor right now is Montreal. Apparently a Habs scout attended the game on Monday and Avs scouts have reportedly been seen at Canadiens games.

alkemical
12-28-2005, 01:48 PM
Speaking of montreal - i miss kovie

Mogulseeker
12-28-2005, 03:54 PM
I hope thats the case. Maybe Aebisher is out of his slump.

He would have been by now if Quinville left him in.

Clockwork Orange
12-28-2005, 05:03 PM
I hope thats the case. Maybe Aebisher is out of his slump.

He would have been by now if Quinville left him in.

Or the Avs would be under .500, one or the other.

Peter Budaj is getting the start tonight.

Mogulseeker
12-28-2005, 06:11 PM
You really dont know that though, so its hard to speculate...

I think that Aebischer would be out of his slump and be playing like himself.

Clockwork Orange
12-28-2005, 06:20 PM
You really dont know that though, so its hard to speculate...

I think that Aebischer would be out of his slump and be playing like himself.

I disagree, but it's all a matter of opinion.

Ovechkin nets his 22nd of the year in the first period against New Jersey.

Bronx33
12-28-2005, 08:26 PM
The AVS need a fricken goalie!

Clockwork Orange
12-28-2005, 08:29 PM
Every shot seems to be an adventure these days. :nono:

Bronx33
12-28-2005, 08:32 PM
Every shot seems to be an adventure these days. :nono:

It's irritating the cr@p out of me..

Mogulseeker
12-28-2005, 09:13 PM
Im missing the game as per the South Park marathon on Comedy Central... but I'm looking at the stats and its only proving my point.

Clockwork Orange
12-28-2005, 09:31 PM
Im missing the game as per the South Park marathon on Comedy Central... but I'm looking at the stats and its only proving my point.

Between the slow bouncer that somehow eluded him and the unscreened slapper by Demitra, he showed enough to remind us that his game is still in the toilet.

Mogulseeker
12-28-2005, 09:34 PM
Aebi is still the best goalie Colorado has.

That is all.

Clockwork Orange
12-28-2005, 09:50 PM
Aebi is still the best goalie Colorado has.

That is all.

That speaks volumes about how poor the Avs goaltending situation is.

Mogulseeker
12-28-2005, 10:15 PM
i sohuld play goltender for the avs....

Mogulseeker
12-28-2005, 10:39 PM
no isouldsnt... ive never played golie

Clockwork Orange
12-28-2005, 11:23 PM
On the bright side, Hejduk looks like he's getting back up to speed.

24champ
12-28-2005, 11:29 PM
gooooo kings! Thanks Patrick Roy for retiring!

Mtbrncofn
12-29-2005, 12:08 AM
Talk about a soft goal. Sheesh. Our goalies....yikes.

Demitra= Avs killer.

Jori
12-29-2005, 05:12 AM
Do the Avs have the worst goaltending in the NHL? Survey says.....

YES!

I just want to know if the Avs organization did something to tick off Pavol Demitra.

I know we have been spoiled by watching Patrick Roy in an Avs uniform for eight years, but is it too much to ask for even average goaltending?

Any long time Colorado hockey fans having flashbacks to Hardy Astrom?

Mogulseeker
12-29-2005, 08:07 AM
... and Aebischer played.

The truth is that the Av's will come around. Maybe not even this year, but they have a decent roster.

alkemical
12-29-2005, 10:24 AM
i'm calling it right now -

NJD 5 - Pens - 3

that's the score for tonights game.

alkemical
12-29-2005, 11:24 AM
BTW: Malkin has been tearing it up at the Juniors, and he will be at Turin as well.....

I think if my pens get a top 5 pick (IF, HA!) - i think they should draft the best D prospect avail.

Mtbrncofn
12-29-2005, 03:52 PM
... and Aebischer played.

The truth is that the Av's will come around. Maybe not even this year, but they have a decent roster.


Obviously you haven't been watching much Avs hockey, Smurf. I don't know why you have this hard on for Aebi. He hasn't played well for most of the season. He's had a few good game runs....very few, but that's it. Most of it has been forgettable.

I dread seeing him in net more than anyone at this point....or I did until this last nightmare started with Kolesnick going to pot and Budaj not being far behind. None of them are impressive right now and I wouldn't put Aebi at the top of the list for us anyway.

Mtbrncofn
12-29-2005, 03:53 PM
BTW: Malkin has been tearing it up at the Juniors, and he will be at Turin as well.....

I think if my pens get a top 5 pick (IF, HA!) - i think they should draft the best D prospect avail.


Since you guys got Sid, I think you guys shouldn't be allowed a top 5 pick for at least 2 more years. :P

Bronx33
12-30-2005, 01:17 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/JesGolbez/flyby5xj.jpg

Bronx33
12-30-2005, 01:48 PM
Great picture and this is not photoshopped....

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/91/148680de.jpg

Bronx33
12-30-2005, 02:02 PM
Cool story....

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/subscriber/sports/other/story/3231179p-3740691c.html

CHILLIWACK, B.C. -- They were robbed at Chilliwack's Best Western Rainbow Country Inn, but a pot of Hockey Canada gold has saved the day for the Czech Republic junior team.

Just four days after about $15,000 in cash was stolen from their hotel rooms, members of the Czech team were breathing a sigh of relief yesterday after Hockey Canada replaced the money.

"Hockey Canada called me and apologized for what happened and said: 'Tell the players (Hockey Canada) will give the money back and to concentrate on hockey and the tournament,"' a relieved Czech general manager Petr Misek said from the hotel.

"We know we are getting our money back. It's nice -- this could happen anywhere."

SJ Bronco
12-30-2005, 08:32 PM
I have good news for the avs fans, and no i didn't save money on my car insurance;

The sharks have run thier poor goalie into the ground and you get the back-up tonight, bad news, hes shown sparks of being pretty good...

SoCalBronco
12-30-2005, 10:16 PM
Great win against the Devils. Crosby with 2G and an Assist. Fleury 44 saves on 46 shots.

Al Wilson
12-31-2005, 05:38 AM
Sens win 4th straight.

Another injury...Alfredsson out for 1 week with broken rib.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=148791&hubname=

SoCalBronco
12-31-2005, 01:22 PM
Crosby with an assist and the game winning goal in OT against the Rangers.
2 wins in a row!

I think Ovechkin also has a G and an A in his game today so he still leads Crosby in the rookie scoring race by 2 points.

Mtbrncofn
01-01-2006, 12:56 AM
I have good news for the avs fans, and no i didn't save money on my car insurance;

The sharks have run thier poor goalie into the ground and you get the back-up tonight, bad news, hes shown sparks of being pretty good...


Toskala has burned us just like Nabokov has. And lookee there, he did it again. Our own goalie didn't help us out any either.

Hey Smurf, how bout that perfomance by Aebi?

Btw, cute pic of your kiddo, SJ.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-01-2006, 04:08 PM
Another 1 and 1 day for Ovechkin

Clockwork Orange
01-02-2006, 11:35 PM
I think if my pens get a top 5 pick (IF, HA!) - i think they should draft the best D prospect avail.

I think we've found your guy, Erik Johnson.

The kid is just 17 years old, but he's already 6'4, 225 and looks like a sure bet to be a top 5 pick (possibly as high as 2nd overall) in this years draft.

SoCalBronco
01-02-2006, 11:47 PM
I think we've found your guy, Erik Johnson.

The kid is just 17 years old, but he's already 6'4, 225 and looks like a sure bet to be a top 5 pick (possibly as high as 2nd overall) in this years draft.

Yeah, ive read a little about the guy. There's a debate at HF about whether he is better than Jack Johnson. Im kinda torn about where the club should go in Round 1. Weve got a great young stay at home defenseman in Noah Welch who is in his first year at Wilkes Barre after a great career at Harvard. Other than that, our stud young defensemen are offensive minded (Whitney, Letang and Goligoski), although I'll give Josh props for sticking with his boy, Brooks Orpik, he finally looked like he was turning a corner the last two weeks before he broke his foot. So weve got a need there, but the team also needs a big time winger. Two great centers in Crosby and Malkin, a gritty hard working 3rd line center in Talbot, some decent wingers in Armstrong and Surovy but no real studs on the wing. Im leaning towards Erik Johnson but some of those versatile forwards like Frolik and Toews to put on the wing sounds nice too.

Hopefully Ovechkin can lead Herc's Caps to halfway decent record from here on out so we can have a better shot at the 2nd pick.

Bronx33
01-02-2006, 11:54 PM
Well we get the see johnson go against malkin in the next game it should be a fun one to watch.