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Clockwork Orange
06-20-2006, 10:31 PM
My guess is there will be plenty of players who loathe him for this move. It's supposed to be about getting the biggest piece of pie and screw those who just end up getting a crumb or two.

Just when you think there is no one stand up left in sports, No Ordinary Joe comes through. Sad thing is he'll be second guessed and probably ridiculed for being unselfish. Such is the ME ME ME world we live in.

This isn't the first time that Sakic has taken a bit less than his market value to stay in Colorado. The last time his contract came up (under the old, free wheeling spending CBA) he was coming off of a 54 goal, Hart & Pearson season in which he led the playoffs in scoring and the Avs to the Stanley Cup. He re-upped with the Avs for $9.5 million per season when he could have easily got somewhere from $11-$12 million per season on the open market.

From what I've read it appears that Niklas Lidstrom isn't exactly planning on giving Detroit the home town discount. Word is that he's looking for a raise from the $7 million he earned last year.

Mtbrncofn
06-20-2006, 10:31 PM
My guess is there will be plenty of players who loathe him for this move. It's supposed to be about getting the biggest piece of pie and screw those who just end up getting a crumb or two.

Just when you think there is no one stand up left in sports, No Ordinary Joe comes through. Sad thing is he'll be second guessed and probably ridiculed for being unselfish. Such is the ME ME ME world we live in.


That's just sick. Plain old sick. Good Lord, there are so few people left in sports with integrity.

Now we need to sign our goalie. -- Skrastins.

No doubt. Who knows what our goalie will be up to. That whole Paris thing just grosses me out. Come on, Jose....you're better than that...I had hoped.

Clockwork Orange
06-20-2006, 10:33 PM
Now, now. There's no evidence that proves that Theo went 5 hole on Paris Hilton.

SoCalBronco
06-20-2006, 10:34 PM
No doubt. Who knows what our goalie will be up to. That whole Paris thing just grosses me out. Come on, Jose....you're better than that...I had hoped.

Well.....he is French-Canadian.......so it only makes sense that he's in Paris in the offseason.

Clockwork Orange
06-20-2006, 10:35 PM
Well.....he is French-Canadian.......so it only makes sense that he's in Paris in the offseason.

*rimshot*

Tredici
06-20-2006, 10:43 PM
Think Pierre, err. I mean, Michel, err. I mean Francois, would've had more interest in waiting on Luongo if he would've changed his name to Robnee Luongnette?

:rofl:

Mtbrncofn
06-20-2006, 10:45 PM
Now, now. There's no evidence that proves that Theo went 5 hole on Paris Hilton.


Oh man! Thanks for the visual. :sickortir:

Well.....he is French-Canadian.......so it only makes sense that he's in Paris in the offseason.

And SoCal....I can't help but laugh at that one. Ha!

Clockwork Orange
06-20-2006, 10:46 PM
Think Pierre, err. I mean, Michel, err. I mean Francois, would've had more interest in waiting on Luongo if he would've changed his name to Robnee Luongnette?

:rofl:

Roberto was a little late for the French invasion of Colorado. :yep:

Sassy
06-20-2006, 11:00 PM
Our local news was showing highlights a few minutes ago...and said there were about 100 Oilers fans to welcome Edmonton back! LOL!

wabbit
06-21-2006, 12:23 AM
Games 5, 6 & 7 were incredibly intense. Great sport.

I love NHL hockey, but the fact that the last two championships have gone to warm weather cities has to grate on the nerves of the traditionalists.

Regardless, with the limited exception of the NBA, unlike any other sport, the NHL really does gather together the best players in the world...US, Canada, Russia, Euro, the nordic states.

Doesn't translate all that well to the small screen, but I don't care...great game to watch, wherever.

Clockwork Orange
06-21-2006, 12:44 AM
I love NHL hockey, but the fact that the last two championships have gone to warm weather cities has to grate on the nerves of the traditionalists.

I absolutely love anything that grates on the nerves of the hockey traditionalists. Those dinosaurs pine for the days of clutch & grab, the days when a 1 goal lead was insurmountable, the days when teams with no talent resorted to trapping and sucking the life out of the game.

I'm looking in your direction Ron McLean, they're saving you a spot on the parade route in Raleigh. 4321~

Tredici
06-22-2006, 03:58 PM
This is for you Clockwork. Another proud moment for our "Goalie of the Future".... ;)


Paris in spring a costly fling


By TORONTO SUN MEDIA








Jose Theodore's antics with Paris Hilton in Toronto possibly has cost him an eight-year relationship.

Stephanie Cloutier, the partner of the Colorado Avalanche goaltender, has kicked Theodore out of her life and their house, a source close to the hockey player reportedly told a Montreal television station yesterday.

Cloutier was planning to move with their three-month-old daughter to Denver this summer. Theodore had bought a house in Denver, but the former Habs player and his partner had kept their house in Montreal.

Photos of Theodore and Hilton partying and holding hands in Toronto last weekend have appeared in several Canadian newspapers.

Theodore escorted the hotel heiress to the MuchMusic Video Awards. They later were seen in a passionate embrace at a restaurant and partied the night away at a club.




The Journal de Montreal reports the morning after the Toronto escapade, Theodore had to meet Cloutier at St-Justine's hospital, to get their 3-month-old baby girl Romy out of hospital. The baby was reportedly

born prematurely and needed 3-months of care in the neonatal unit. The pregnancy reportedly had not been easy for Stephanie Cloutier, who has diabetes and who had to deal with her father being in jail at the

time. Jose and Stephanie met 8 years ago.

Theodore is no stranger to controversy.

In 2003, published photographs showed him with members of the Hell's Angels.

His father and half-brother pleaded guilty in 2004 to charges of loansharking and possessing a restricted weapon.

Last year, Theodore failed a test for a steroid commonly found in a hair-restoration drug.

Clockwork Orange
06-22-2006, 04:07 PM
Nice.

Throw away an 8 year relationship with the mother of your newborn daughter for a one night fling with a trashy Hollywood fvcktowel. Great judgement there, Theo.

SoCalBronco
06-22-2006, 07:48 PM
As expected, AO wins the Calder.

Congrats Herc.

Clockwork Orange
06-22-2006, 07:54 PM
Your 2005-06 Hart Memorial Trophy winner as the NHL's MVP is Joe Thornton. Congrats to Big Joe.

Hey O'Connell, tell us all again how Thornton isn't a top 10 player in this league. :laugh:

Boston fans have to be grinding their teeth right now.

Mtbrncofn
06-22-2006, 09:33 PM
Oh damnit, I completely spaced the awards. Anything else important I missed?

PatsWin2002
06-22-2006, 09:36 PM
Boston fans have to be grinding their teeth right now.


I heard that both of them were. ;)

Tredici
06-22-2006, 09:39 PM
Oh damnit, I completely spaced the awards. Anything else important I missed?


Here ya go K:

VANCOUVER -- San Jose center Joe Thornton, whose career-high 125 points and +31 rating sparked the Sharks' dramatic late-season surge to fifth place in the Western Conference, captured his first career Hart Trophy as the NHL MVP tonight at the 2006 NHL Awards.

Thornton, who also collected the Art Ross Trophy as the NHL's regular-season scoring leader, received 67 of 129 first-place votes for 1,058 points in Hart balloting. He edged New York Rangers right wing Jaromir Jagr, who tallied 48 first-place votes and 974 points.

Other honorees included Washington Capitals left wing Alexander Ovechkin, who won the Calder Trophy as the NHL's top rookie. Ovechkin was a near-unanimous selection, receiving 124 of 129 first-place votes and five second-place votes for 1,275 points. The 20-year-old Moscow native led all rookies in scoring with 106 points and became the second rookie in history to tally 50 goals and 100 points in a season, following Winnipeg's Teemu Selanne in 1992-93. Ovechkin also led the NHL in shots with 425, the most ever for a rookie, and ranked third among all players in points.

Three days after winning the Stanley Cup, Carolina Hurricanes captain Rod Brind'Amour was honored for regular-season achievement tonight, winning his first Frank Selke Trophy as the League's outstanding defensive forward. Brind'Amour led all NHL forwards in ice time per game at 24:17, more than a minute and a half ahead of second-place Brad Richards of Tampa Bay (22:45). He also excelled in the face-off circle, leading all players in face-offs taken with 2,145 and placing third in face-off winning percentage, 59.1%.

The Buffalo Sabres' Lindy Ruff claimed the Jack Adams Award as the NHL's top coach, edging the Carolina Hurricanes' Peter Laviolette by one point (155-154) in the closest race since voting for the trophy began in 1973-74Ruff guided the Sabres to a 52-24-6 record for 110 points, a 25-point improvement over 2003-04, and set franchise records for victories and points.

Calgary Flames goaltender Miikka Kiprusoff claimed his first Vezina Trophy as the NHL's top goaltender and William Jennings Trophy as the goaltender on the club allowing the fewest regular-season goals. Kiprusoff led all netminders in goals-against average (2.03) and shutouts (10), ranked second in victories (42) and was third in save percentage (.923).

The Detroit Red Wings' Nicklas Lidstrom captured the Norris Trophy for the fourth time as the League's outstanding defenseman. Lidstrom led all NHL blueliners in scoring with a career-high 80 points (16 goals, 64 assists), helping the Presidents' Trophy winners post a 14-0-0 record when he scored a goal. Lidstrom ranked third in the NHL in ice time per game (28:06) and posted a +21 rating.

Lidstrom's teammate Pavel Datsyuk won his first Lady Byng Trophy for combining sportsmanship with a high standard of play. Datsyuk led the Red Wings in scoring with a career-high 87 points (28 goals, 59 assists), the most by a Detroit player since Brendan Shanahan's 88 in 1996-97, and was the first Red Wing to tally 50 assists in a season since Steve Yzerman, also in 1996-97.

Anaheim Ducks right wing Teemu Selanne received the Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy for perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey. Selanne turned in a spectacular season in his second stint with the Ducks, leading the club in scoring with 90 points (40 goals, 50 assists) following reconstructive knee surgery in 2004.

San Jose Sharks right wing Jonathan Cheechoo won his first Maurice "Rocket" Richard Trophy as the NHL's goal-scoring leader. Cheechoo tallied a Sharks-record 56 goals, including 11 goals in the final 10 games, and led the NHL in game-winning goals (11), home-ice goals (31) and divisional goals (29).

Washington Capitals goaltender Olaf Kolzig accepted the King Clancy Memorial Trophy for leadership and humanitarian contributions to his community.

The Professional Hockey Writers' Association (PHWA) cast ballots for the Hart, Norris, Selke, Lady Byng and Calder Trophies. The PHWA also voted on the Masterton Trophy. The 30 NHL General Managers voted on the Vezina Trophy. The NHL Broadcasters' Association (NHLBA) submitted votes for the Jack Adams Award, and a special panel of representatives from the PHWA and NHLBA chose the King Clancy winner. Voting for these awards was conducted at the conclusion of the regular season.

Balloting results were tabulated by the accounting firm Ernst & Young, with the exception of the Masterton and King Clancy trophiesThe results for these awards were tabulated by the PHWA and the National Hockey League, respectively.

Mtbrncofn
06-22-2006, 09:45 PM
Cool to see Brind'Amour win the Selke, same for Kipper and the Vezina. Cripes, if Lidstrom keeps winning the damn Norris, they're gonna change the name of it.

Datsuck took the Lady Byng, huh? I never even heard or I don't remember who else was in the running.

Sounds like most of the winners were the right ones, IMO.

Thanks, Tred.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-22-2006, 10:32 PM
Ovechkin was a near-unanimous selection, receiving 124 of 129 first-place votes and five second-place votes for 1,275 points.

Hell yeah

SoCalBronco
06-22-2006, 11:00 PM
Some rumors for Avs fans.

Blake back to LA?

Colorado among the clubs targetting Spacek.

Take it with a grain of salt though, it is from Eklund's rumors blog.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blogworld/blog.aspx?blogger=1&post=2284

Mtbrncofn
06-22-2006, 11:04 PM
Some rumors for Avs fans.

Blake back to LA?

Colorado among the clubs targetting Spacek.

Take it with a grain of salt though, it is from Eklund's rumors blog.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blogworld/blog.aspx?blogger=1&post=2284

Horrid, horrid rumor. :(

I wonder if they would stop booing him then.

Clockwork Orange
06-22-2006, 11:07 PM
I would take hockey rumors from mock more seriously than I do from Eklund.

SoCalBronco
06-22-2006, 11:46 PM
I would take hockey rumors from mock more seriously than I do from Eklund.

STFU.

Mock has ties throughout the league. Sit down and Shutup. Mock told you that Theodore was touring the Champs-Elysees in Paris but you idiots were too busy sucking him off in the playoffs. Noone ever bothered to ask Mock who would win the Cup. If any of you idiots actually sought me out, you would have made a killing on Carolina at 7 to 1. It was a Mock's Lock all along. It should surprise no one that these Cup Finals were excellent, although Mock still lusts for the Finals of 2000 and 2001 when they always panned to Melanie Brodeur with that cowboy hat in the Finals. She gained some weight in 01, but its all meat to Mock. Mock was laughed at on this board when I said the Staal family would own, so **** you.

Anyway, Mock is calling Erik Johnson at No. 1 to STL. Beezer just got off the phone with JD and confirmed it. Sometimes JD drools tho, i guess Beezer looks tasty to him, he is getting too fat the last few weeks. I should have gotten him off the Albacore tuna, its really fattening, but he doesn't like Chicken of the Sea. I know I pamper him and all but I feel guilty when I don't, I don't think he has forgiven me for trying to spray WD-40 down his throat.

Mock's family actually has a rich history with the NHL. Mock's great uncle taught Toe Blake the fundamentals of the Bothwell Weave and what would eventually become the very aggressive Soviet 2-1-2 forechecking system.

And yet Mock is treated like he knows nothing about hockey. How very amusing. Get a clue.

Listen you dimwits, Mock negotiated Nick Antropov's last contract so STFU. I have Tomas Kaberle on speed dial and a million dollar line of credit so bl0w me.

Now Mock is a homer for Minnesota, but I am also a great father figure. Mock simply did not stand for it when Kessel started gawking at a kitten. Mock delivered a major beatdown. Mock has been calling GMs across the country warning everyone about that little biatch. ISS certainly listened to Mock. The kid is falling faster than a rock. Last year, Mock told you the kid had major character problems. Mock told you to downgrade him. Mock spent two hours on the phone with Central Scouting and noone listened until now. He cost himself millions messing with my family. Kessel can STFU and STFD. Mock eviscerated him.

STFU.

Clockwork Orange
06-22-2006, 11:49 PM
STFU.

Mock has ties throughout the league. Sit down and Shutup. Mock told you that Theodore was touring the Champs-Elysees in Paris but you idiots were too busy sucking him off in the playoffs. Noone ever bothered to ask Mock who would win the Cup. If any of you idiots actually sought me out, you would have made a killing on Carolina at 7 to 1. It was a Mock's Lock all along. It should surprise no one that these Cup Finals were excellent, although Mock still lusts for the Finals of 2000 and 2001 when they always panned to Melanie Brodeur with that cowboy hat in the Finals. She gained some weight in 01, but its all meat to Mock. Mock was laughed at on this board when I said the Staal family would own, so **** you.

Anyway, Mock is calling Erik Johnson at No. 1 to STL. Beezer just got off the phone with JD and confirmed it. Sometimes JD drools tho, i guess Beezer looks tasty to him, he is getting too fat the last few weeks. I should have gotten him off the Albacore tuna, its really fattening, but he doesn't like Chicken of the Sea. I know I pamper him and all but I feel guilty when I don't, I don't think he has forgiven me for trying to spray WD-40 down his throat.

Mock's family actually has a rich history with the NHL. Mock's great uncle taught Toe Blake the fundamentals of the Bothwell Weave and what would eventually become the very aggressive Soviet 2-1-2 forechecking system.

And yet Mock is treated like he knows nothing about hockey. How very amusing. Get a clue.

Listen you dimwits, Mock negotiated Nick Antropov's last contract so STFU. I have Tomas Kaberle on speed dial and a million dollar line of credit so kiss me.

Now Mock is a homer for Minnesota, but I am also a great father figure. Mock simply did not stand for it when Kessel started gawking at a kitten. Mock delivered a major beatdown. Mock has been calling GMs across the country warning everyone about that little biatch. ISS certainly listened to Mock. The kid is falling faster than a rock. Last year, Mock told you the kid had major character problems. Mock told you to downgrade him. Mock spent two hours on the phone with Central Scouting and noone listened until now. He cost himself millions messing with my family. Kessel can STFU and STFD. Mock eviscerated him.

STFU.

You get major rep for mentioning Melanie Brodeur going Delta Burke between 2000 and 2001. She was a straight up hottie when the Devils beat the Stars for the Cup and then one year later she looked like she'd eaten a small country. No wonder Marty was diddling her sister.

Mtbrncofn
06-22-2006, 11:49 PM
Hilarious!

SoCal, you really have to stop doing these Mock posts so late at night. The loud guffaws that come out of me wake my kids up! ;)

Mtbrncofn
06-22-2006, 11:51 PM
You get major rep for mentioning Melanie Brodeur going Delta Burke between 2000 and 2001. She was a straight up hottie when the Devils beat the Stars for the Cup and then one year later she looked like she'd eaten a small country. No wonder Marty was diddling her sister.

Ewww, her sister?! That's who it was?! Geez, that's just not right.

Clockwork Orange
06-22-2006, 11:54 PM
Ewww, her sister?! That's who it was?! Geez, that's just not right.

She wasn't exactly a saint either from what I've heard. After they separated, she used to call him an hour before games and tell him that she was going out on dates and would give some pretty lude accounts of her plans for the night.

Mtbrncofn
06-22-2006, 11:58 PM
How the hell is it that I never hear all this good stuff you always know on these kinds of things?

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 12:02 AM
How the hell is it that I never hear all this good stuff you always know on these kinds of things?

Just things you hear over the course of time. Spend some time on other teams hockey boards and you pick up some dirt here and there from fans of other teams.

I was a mod on a hockey site for a few years (I know, hard to believe, but true), so I spent time on every team board and had some very interesting conversations.

alkemical
06-23-2006, 08:45 AM
you mean when tom barasso's wife stabbed him the leg when he was caught with the baby sitter?

Tredici
06-23-2006, 08:52 AM
I thought it was Broduer's sister-in-law on the other side. Meaning his brother's wife.

And thanks for the great post SoCal. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-23-2006, 10:52 AM
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Draft/2006/06/23/1649491-sun.html

Update on the Pens pick situation.

If all the Pens have to give up for JJ is the 2nd, it's a total theft on their part. I think the Weber (and I'm assuming + other assets) for the 2nd is more realistic.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 10:56 AM
I thought it was Broduer's sister-in-law on the other side. Meaning his brother's wife.

And thanks for the great post SoCal. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

You could be right, my memory of the situation is a bit fuzzy. Either way, that was a pretty nasty situation all around.

I also want to add that I read yesterday that Phil Kessel's favorite hockey player is Joe Sakic. That's the clincher, trade up for him Franky!! :yep:

alkemical
06-23-2006, 10:59 AM
take him - kessel's a biatch. he's soft.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 11:04 AM
take him - kessel's a biatch. he's soft.

So's Crosby. :~ohyah!:

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 11:09 AM
Looks like Blakey's acting as his own agent.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nhl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23920_4796092,00.html

Rob Blake is handling his own contract negotiations and is hopeful of signing a new, two-year deal with the Avalanche, perhaps as early as next week.

The 36-year-old defenseman, who made $6,364,111 last season, plans to speak with new Avalanche general manager Francois Giguere on Monday or Tuesday, after Saturday's NHL entry draft.

"It's where I want to play, in Denver," Blake said Thursday from his home in California. "I would like to play two more years, for sure. I don't think I would go any longer than two years."

I really like this tidbit.

Blake sounded open to taking a hometown discount, as Avalanche captain Joe Sakic did Tuesday when he signed a one-year, $5.75 million contract, nearly $1 million less than his 2005-06 salary.

alkemical
06-23-2006, 11:20 AM
So's Crosby. :~ohyah!:


He's not soft, he just biatches. Example: Jagr is soft.

Jori
06-23-2006, 11:22 AM
It looks like Chicago will take Toews if he's still there at #3.

Mtbrncofn
06-23-2006, 11:29 AM
Looks like Blakey's acting as his own agent.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nhl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23920_4796092,00.html

Rob Blake is handling his own contract negotiations and is hopeful of signing a new, two-year deal with the Avalanche, perhaps as early as next week.

The 36-year-old defenseman, who made $6,364,111 last season, plans to speak with new Avalanche general manager Francois Giguere on Monday or Tuesday, after Saturday's NHL entry draft.

"It's where I want to play, in Denver," Blake said Thursday from his home in California. "I would like to play two more years, for sure. I don't think I would go any longer than two years."

I really like this tidbit.

Blake sounded open to taking a hometown discount, as Avalanche captain Joe Sakic did Tuesday when he signed a one-year, $5.75 million contract, nearly $1 million less than his 2005-06 salary.


!Booya! Go Blakey...git r done.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 11:51 AM
He's not soft, he just biatches. Example: Jagr is soft.

Jagr looks like Scott Stevens compared to Alexei Yashin.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 11:52 AM
It looks like Chicago will take Toews if he's still there at #3.

The real question is who does Pittsburgh take? That's going to set the dominoes falling.

I want Staal to fall to Washington at #4.

alkemical
06-23-2006, 11:56 AM
Jagr looks like Scott Stevens compared to Alexei Yashin.


this i won't refute.

I did find the karmic irony in jagr's should doing him in this year, after that shameless ploy in which mario just kicked him out for having a mangina.

alkemical
06-23-2006, 11:57 AM
The real question is who does Pittsburgh take? That's going to set the dominoes falling.

I want Staal to fall to Washington at #4.


No word on/from the post-gazette - Sherro seems tight lipped.

I don't think they know who they will draft.

Nuggets4
06-23-2006, 12:01 PM
Jagr looks like Scott Stevens compared to Alexei Yashin.

I look like Scott Stevens compared to Yashin.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 01:16 PM
Looks like Havlat is pulling a Luongo on the Sens.

Havlat only wants to sign a one-year deal (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=169507&hubname=)

If Martin Havlat is going to sign with the Ottawa Senators, it is going to be for only one year.

Havlat's agent Allan Walsh said Friday his client is only interested in a one year contract, which could lead to him being traded out of Ottawa.

''Martin Havlat will be looking to sign a one-year deal and certainly is curious to see what kind of interest exists for him as an unrestricted free agent next summer,'' Walsh said.

Havlat had nine goals and seven assists in 18 games for the Senators this season. He missed 58 games to a shoulder injury and five more with a suspension. In ten playoff games Havlat contributed seven goals and six assists.

In 298 career regular-season games with Ottawa Havlat has 105 goals and 130 assists.
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Expect him to be shopped, though his value has taken a serious hit with him proclaiming his intention of becoming a UFA next year.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 01:28 PM
More rumors from TSN. (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=169500&hubname=nhl)

- Several published reports indicate that the Pittburgh Penguins, desperate for defence, are offering the number two overall pick to Carolina in exchange for last year's number three pick, Jack Johnson. The Hurricanes would then use the second pick on Jordan Staal, the younger brother of 'Canes star Eric Staal.

- The Vancouver Province reports that Oilers D Chris Pronger, along with Canucks LW Todd Bertuzzi, are two of the possible blockbuster trade options for the Florida Panthers should they deal G Roberto Luongo. The Toronto Sun also suggests the Pronger could be moved for a sizeable bounty this summer.

- According to the Columbus Post-Dispatch, Blue Jackets G Marc Denis has been offered to the Tampa Bay Lightning in exchange for LW Ruslan Fedotenko, G John Grahame and a second-round pick. Another package the paper mentions has Denis and the number six pick going to Tampa for LW Fredrik Modin and the number fifteen pick.

- The St. Petersburg Times chimes in suggesting that the Lightning are also interested in Jean-Sebastien Giguere and Evgeni Nabokov, in addition to Denis, with Fedotenko and Modin expected to be the bait. The paper also dismisses the notion that a Vincent Lecavalier or Martin St. Louis-to-Florida-for Roberto Luongo trade isn't very likely.

- According to the Toronto Star, the Leafs' most likely options for starting goaltender are also Giguere and Nabokov. The prime bait would include a young forward like Matt Stajan, Kyle Wellwood or Alexander Steen. The paper also has the Leafs trying to move Ed Belfour and Tie Domi, though their salaries would seem to make that prohibitive.

- While noting that the Ottawa Senators would surely have interest in free agent C Michael Peca, the Ottawa Citizen suggests that Peca would prefer to land in Buffalo or Toronto. Alyn McCauley, Shean Donovan and Steve Rucchin were also mentioned as Senators options.

- The Ottawa Citizen has more Lightning trade options: Anaheim's Jean-Sebastien Giguere, San Jose's Evgeni Nabokov, Buffalo's Martin Biron, Boston's Andrew Raycroft, Montreal's David Aebischer or Vancouver's Dan Cloutier are all possibilities.

- According to the Detroit News, if the Red Wings can't put together an offer for Florida's Roberto Luongo, then Anaheim's Jean-Sebastien Giguere, Buffalo's Martin Biron, Boston's Andrew Raycroft, Philadelphia's Robert Esche, Montreal's David Aebischer and San Jose's Evgeni Nabakov would all be viable alternatives. In order to get Luongo, the paper expects that the Wings would have to offer C Pavel Datsyuk or D Niklas Kronwall with goalie prospect Jimmy Howard. Going further, the Wings might be forced to trade Mathieu Schneider and Robert Lang in order to create room for Luongo's anticipated salary. In an unrelated, though potentially related note, the Detroit Free Press notes that prospect Jiri Hudler, who scored 96 points in the AHL this year, will have to clear waivers if he's going to get sent down again.

- The Los Angeles Times reported that the Kings offered G Mathieu Garon, LW Alexander Frolov and RW Dustin Brown for Luongo.

- The Arlington Heights Daily Herald reports that the Blackhawks may buy out veterans D Jassen Cullimore, RW Matthew Barnaby and C Curtis Brown.

- Rumblings in the New York Post indicate that tight friends Martin Havlat and Patrik Elias could end up in the same locale this summer, with Elias an unrestricted free agent and Havlat a restricted free agent that could be difficult for the Senators to keep.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 03:09 PM
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Draft/2006/06/23/1649491-sun.html

Update on the Pens pick situation.

If all the Pens have to give up for JJ is the 2nd, it's a total theft on their part. I think the Weber (and I'm assuming + other assets) for the 2nd is more realistic.

The JJ rumor might turn out to be true. Canes fans seem convinced that something screwy is going on between he and the organization. I've heard various rumors, from him not wanting to play for Carolina, to the organization being upset that he didn't sign and join them for the playoffs this year to his parents being meddlers along the line of the Lindroses.

Either way, there seems to be some dissatisfaction from Carolina towards their top prospect. If they forsee trouble down the line with him, I don't think they'll hesitate to trade him. His value is sky high at the moment, but once there's confirmation of a rift between he and the organization, his value starts to dip.

Tredici
06-23-2006, 03:33 PM
More rumors from TSN. (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=169500&hubname=nhl)


- According to the Detroit News, if the Red Wings can't put together an offer for Florida's Roberto Luongo, then Anaheim's Jean-Sebastien Giguere, Buffalo's Martin Biron, Boston's Andrew Raycroft, Philadelphia's Robert Esche, Montreal's David Aebischer and San Jose's Evgeni Nabakov would all be viable alternatives. In order to get Luongo, the paper expects that the Wings would have to offer C Pavel Datsyuk or D Niklas Kronwall with goalie prospect Jimmy Howard. Going further, the Wings might be forced to trade Mathieu Schneider and Robert Lang in order to create room for Luongo's anticipated salary. In an unrelated, though potentially related note, the Detroit Free Press notes that prospect Jiri Hudler, who scored 96 points in the AHL this year, will have to clear waivers if he's going to get sent down again.



What is up with Chokeytown? I mean how many games did Legace win last season? Getting bounced in round one is now Manny's fault? And why are we leaving out Turek, Belfour and gosh, Potvin is available. Couldn't they re-promote Osgood??!! How about if we throw them Jose and Paris for Linstrom?

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 03:43 PM
What is up with Chokeytown? I mean how many games did Legace win last season? Getting bounced in round one is now Manny's fault? And why are we leaving out Turek, Belfour and gosh, Potvin is available. Couldn't they re-promote Osgood??!! How about if we throw them Jose and Paris for Linstrom?

Detroit is notorious for being tough on goaltenders.

Speaking of Lidstrom, I wonder if him winning his 4th Norris Trophy has raised his asking price any.

Mtbrncofn
06-23-2006, 04:07 PM
I've read that Pronger stuff for the last couple of days. I was joking when I mentioned it. Where is that coming from? I thought Pronger signed a big deal when he went up there. Why the heck would he want out already?

Man, the Kings are throwing a lot out there to try and snare Luongo.

And funniest yet.....the remote possibility of Aebi in Hockeytown. That would be great. They yapped on and on about how crappy he was for some time. I still wish the guy the best.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 04:10 PM
From what I've read, it appears that the Pronger rumor was started by notorious bull**** artist Al Strachan, so don't put too much stock into it.

Mtbrncofn
06-23-2006, 04:16 PM
Detroit is notorious for being tough on goaltenders.

Speaking of Lidstrom, I wonder if him winning his 4th Norris Trophy has raised his asking price any.

Could it get much higher? He's got a pretty good salary already.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 04:19 PM
Could it get much higher? He's got a pretty good salary already.

He made around $7 million last year and won the Norris Trophy. The max salary for a single player is somewhere over $8 million with the rise in the salary cap and all.

I have no idea how much he's looking for, but rumors are it's a bundle.

Mtbrncofn
06-23-2006, 04:21 PM
So, with Lidstrom with a big price tag and the Wings still needing to re-sign quite a few key players, they can't really be in the Luongo sweepstakes, can they?

alkemical
06-23-2006, 04:29 PM
their GM stated they have expendable vets

Mtbrncofn
06-23-2006, 04:32 PM
Yeah, but still...I thought their 'expendable' vets were already making chump change. Is it really gonna help that much? I hope they don't mean Stevie Y. I'd hope the guy would retire before it came to that. He deserves it.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 04:37 PM
Fresh off being named league MVP, Joe Thornton will be the cover boy for NHL 2K7.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Of course, as Herc mentioned previously......

http://images.ea.com/sports/nhl07/_img/ovechkin.jpg

Jori
06-23-2006, 05:06 PM
Canes sign Brind'Amour to a five year deal. The money isn't a lot, just surprised at the length of the deal; Brindy would be 40 when this contract expires. If he were to retire sometime during the middle of this contract, the remaining years will still count against the cap.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=169527&hubname=nhl

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 05:13 PM
Canes sign Brind'Amour to a five year deal. The money isn't a lot, just surprised at the length of the deal; Brindy would be 40 when this contract expires. If he were to retire sometime during the middle of this contract, the remaining years will still count against the cap.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=169527&hubname=nhl

You're right, not a bad deal moneywise, but 5 years? They'd better hope he plays that long.

SoCalBronco
06-23-2006, 07:40 PM
With everyone being hot and horny over Jordan Staal, we better fleece someone tomorrow or i'll be pissed. If they can't get a deal done, its ok though, just take Kessel. I want to see Crosby, Malkin and Kessel on the PP and occasionally on the same line at the end of games when we are down a goal. I'd love to snag Jack Johnson though, that would be outstanding. Shea Weber would be a big boost to our defense too.

Git R Done, Ray.

Jori
06-23-2006, 07:57 PM
Luongo for Bertuzzi?

"The Vancouver Canucks and Florida Panthers are on the verge of finalizing a multi-player trade involving Roberto Luongo and Todd Bertuzzi, sources have told TSN.

Netminder Luongo is amongst a package that is going to Vancouver in exchange for a package that includes Bertuzzi.
Details to follow."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=169536&hubname=nhl

SoCalBronco
06-23-2006, 08:04 PM
Luongo for Bertuzzi?

"The Vancouver Canucks and Florida Panthers are on the verge of finalizing a multi-player trade involving Roberto Luongo and Todd Bertuzzi, sources have told TSN.

Netminder Luongo is amongst a package that is going to Vancouver in exchange for a package that includes Bertuzzi.
Details to follow."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=169536&hubname=nhl

Dang. That would really suck for you guys. Hopefully this deal collapses at the last second.

Jori
06-23-2006, 08:05 PM
Here is the completed deal:

To Vancouver: Roberto Luongo, Lukas Krajicek, 6th Round Pick
To Florida: Todd Bertuzzi, Alex Auld, Bryan Allen

A coup for Nonis

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20060623_214807_5632

Now you have Luongo, Kipper, Roloson, and Fernandez in the division. Theodore better get his ass in gear.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-23-2006, 08:08 PM
With everyone being hot and horny over Jordan Staal, we better fleece someone tomorrow or i'll be pissed.

I'd love to see where Jordan would go if his last name wasn't Staal. I'm guessing it wouldn't be Top 5 high.

Bronco X
06-23-2006, 08:34 PM
Keenan is a moron.

Jori
06-23-2006, 08:40 PM
Keenan is a moron.
Yes he is...Florida got fleeced big time.

Jori
06-23-2006, 09:20 PM
Talk about ruining my weekend with this Luongo trade. Vancouver gets rid of a cancer and gets one of the top five goaltenders in the NHL.

We know that Pronger is going to be traded again. Apparently there are three teams who are after the second over all pick. And don't be surprised if David Aebischer is traded this weekend, the Habs are close to signing Huet to a multi-year deal. Aebischer has expressed publically that he wants to be a #1 goaltender, he wont get that chance in Montreal.

Tredici
06-23-2006, 09:37 PM
The Cannucks sure snookered Floridy on that one. They couldn't move that POS and his $$$'s at trade deadline and ending up getting a premiere goalie? WTH?

SoCalBronco
06-23-2006, 09:38 PM
It's bad, but there is a positive angle.

This development may embolden Pierre and his new protege to respond and make some big time moves tomorrow in the draft to really strengthen your team.

Jori
06-23-2006, 09:46 PM
Since Keenan is in such a giving mood, maybe Giguere should give him a call.

clean
06-23-2006, 09:58 PM
"The move was no less bold for Panthers GM Mike Keenan, who could not come to terms with Luongo in spite of offering him a five-year, $30-million deal that would have made him one of the highest-paid netminders in the game. Presumably, Nonis is prepared to make Luongo an offer that will make him happy enough to turn his back on a date with unrestricted free agency next summer, somewhere in the neighborhood of $7 million annually. If Nonis cannot pull that off, this trade is fraught with even greater risk for Nonis."

It's hard to imagine a situation in which the hard-nosed, sometimes bombastic Keenan is seen in a sympathetic light, but this is it. Faced with the prospect of losing one of the top young goaltenders in the game to free agency next summer, Keenan chose to act now rather than wait and see if Luongo's temperament changed."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2498929

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 10:28 PM
Wow, hell of a move for the Canchokes. What'll be realy funny now is watching the Vancouver "fans" who so vehemently defended Bertuzzi all this time now turn on him like rats bailing off a sinking ship.

WABronco
06-23-2006, 10:46 PM
What'll be realy funny now is watching the Vancouver "fans" who so vehemently defended Bertuzzi all this time now turn on him like rats bailing off a sinking ship.

I'm not so sure about that...

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 11:02 PM
I'm not so sure about that...

I am. Those sheep will now make him the scapegoat for all that's been wrong with the Canchokes for the last two seasons. Watch and see.

WABronco
06-23-2006, 11:07 PM
I am. Those sheep will now make him the scapegoat for all that's been wrong with the Canchokes for the last two seasons. Watch and see.
If they play well, then yea...why not make him the scapegoat? You can't deny the fact that he was a drag on that team IMO. Although, most, if not all Canucks fans were and will remain Bertuzzi fans, in my estimation.

Great deal for Vancouver though. They get an elite goalie and a nice D prospect for a headcase, a solid defensive defenseman, and an adequate starting keeper. Good deal...

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 11:10 PM
If they play well, then yea...why not make him the scapegoat? You can't deny the fact that he was a drag on that team IMO. Although, most, if not all Canucks fans were and will remain Bertuzzi fans, in my estimation.

Vancouver fans blast everyone who leaves. They loved Burke, but ripped him on the way out. Same with Crawford. Same with many, many players. All of them were worthless or part of the problem and the team is better off without them.

I've said this before, I'll say it again. **** Canchoke fans and **** Bertuzzi. I have no respect for either and never will.

WABronco
06-23-2006, 11:21 PM
Vancouver fans blast everyone who leaves. They loved Burke, but ripped him on the way out. Same with Crawford. Same with many, many players. All of them were worthless or part of the problem and the team is better off without them.

I've said this before, I'll say it again. **** Canchoke fans and **** Bertuzzi. I have no respect for either and never will.
Ease the fvck up with all the bashing...

In case you haven't noticed, I'm more or less a Canucks fan. I wouldn't call myself a hardcore fan or diehard, but Van is by far my favorite. Am I that bad? Me thinks not...

You may be right with other players, but IMO you're off target with Burke and Crawford. The impression I got was that the fans were peeved at ownership for making/letting Burke leave...not at Burke for leaving. Crawford was seen as part of the problem this year IMO (and maybe two years ago too), meaning he was bashed beforehand.

SoCalBronco
06-23-2006, 11:30 PM
Penguins at center of draft intrigue



By Karen Price
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Saturday, June 24, 2006


VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- The rumors were swirling Friday night around the Penguins, their No. 2 pick in today's NHL Entry Draft and whether they would keep it or trade it.
But after leaving the NHL general managers meetings late yesterday afternoon, Penguins GM Ray Shero was keeping his plans to himself.

"Our mandate is we have to be prepared to pick at No. 2, and we have to be prepared for all these different scenarios," Shero said.

The prominent rumor yesterday concerned the Penguins trading the second pick to the Carolina Hurricanes for defenseman Jack Johnson, the defenseman whom the Stanley Cup champions drafted third overall in 2005. The Hurricanes would then use the second pick to select center Jordan Staal, brother of their current star forward, Eric Staal.





"(I told Shero) 'If you're moving the pick, give me a call,' " Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford said yesterday.

Shero said speaking to Rutherford was on the agenda for last night.

"As of later ... I'll have talked to everybody including Carolina, and I'll see where we are," he said yesterday. "So we'll see."

Shero wouldn't say whether the prospect of getting Johnson was attractive to him and answered the question by saying they needed to be ready for whatever came along. But Johnson is a highly regarded defenseman who just finished his freshman year at the University of Michigan, and he also happens to be good friends with Sidney Crosby.

The Hurricanes asked Johnson to sign with them after his college season ended and join them for their playoff run, but Johnson declined because he felt he wasn't ready to make the jump to the NHL.

"I'm only 18, and I thought I needed more time," Johnson said by phone last night. "I just don't want to rush things."

Johnson said he'd heard the rumors as well and would be watching today's proceedings closely.

"My allegiance is to the Carolina Hurricanes, but if they want to trade me, by all means trade me," he said. "I want to go some place where they really want me."

Shero inquired about moving up to the first spot overall to select another highly regarded defenseman, Erik Johnson, whom the No. 1 St. Louis Blues said Thursday they planned to draft if they didn't trade the pick. But Shero believes the price to trade up will be too high.

"I talked to (Blues GM) Larry (Pleau on Friday) morning, and he's got to get something really good," Shero said. "I don't think, speaking from Pittsburgh's standpoint, that I can satisfy him in terms of the assets to give up to move up. I would have interest in doing that, just like a lot of teams, but at the end of the day, we've got some decent assets in place and we're going to get a good player at two. I have to keep that in mind."

The draft doesn't begin until 3 p.m. in Vancouver, Shero pointed out, so there will still be plenty of time for negotiations this morning. It was believed that as of last night another team had stepped into play and was making serious offers for the Penguins' second pick as well.

Shero said if they stayed at No. 2, they knew who they were going to draft. He wouldn't tip his hand, although it's believed they are high on center/winger Jonathan Toews. The Penguins staff has met with Toews, Staal, Johnson and fifth-ranked Phil Kessel since arriving in Vancouver.

"I don't think (the Penguins) want to obviously tell me anything so I go ratting out to other teams," Toews said when asked if he thought the Penguins were interested in him. "I think every team wants to keep their cards pretty close in and not let anyone else know what their intentions are on draft day."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_459432.html


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Bring me Jack!

Seems the team is telling each paper something different things. The Pittsburgh Post Gazette says that they are favoring Kessel (which I hope is true) and the Tribune Review here says Toews if the pick is kept.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 11:35 PM
Ease the fvck up with all the bashing...

In case you haven't noticed, I'm more or less a Canucks fan. I wouldn't call myself a hardcore fan or diehard, but Van is by far my favorite. Am I that bad? Me thinks not...

You may be right with other players, but IMO you're off target with Burke and Crawford. The impression I got was that the fans were peeved at ownership for making/letting Burke leave...not at Burke for leaving. Crawford was seen as part of the problem this year IMO (and maybe two years ago too), meaning he was bashed beforehand.

I'm not easing up on anything. If it bothers you that much, put me on ignore. I developed a very healthy contempt for all things Vancouver throughout the entire Bertuzzi/Moore ordeal and that won't be changing anytime soon.

When I rip Canchoke fans, I'm not talking directly to you unless that's the way you choose to take it.

Clockwork Orange
06-23-2006, 11:39 PM
Anyway, if Keenan is feeling generous, someone from the Avs should be on the phone with him right now seeing if they could pry Bouwmeester out of there for a shiny new nickel or a roll of hockey tape. They gave up Luongo for Bertuzzi, so I guess anything's possible.

WABronco
06-23-2006, 11:48 PM
I'm not easing up on anything. If it bothers you that much, put me on ignore. I developed a very healthy contempt for all things Vancouver throughout the entire Bertuzzi/Moore ordeal and that won't be changing anytime soon.

When I rip Canchoke fans, I'm not talking directly to you unless that's the way you choose to take it.
That's fine...

To be perfectly honest, I wasn't the least bit against Vancouver making an attempt at retaliating. But there were obviously certain things that were out of line in that whole ordeal. First of which was the public threats made by Brad May and others. Then, the way Bert attacked Moore from behind and caused a severe injury. That was way out of line, and no Canucks fan in their right mind should've defended it (I'm sure there were plenty in your eyes, as there were in mine). If you're pissed about the way Vancouver supported him afterwards...I don't know what to tell you. The man was a loved member of the hometown team. Part of me said "damn that was ****ing stupid," but part of me also said "Bert knows he made a big-ass mistake, and I'll support him as a fellow human being."

Anyways, this ****'s been debated already...no need to brew up anymore bad blood IMO.

And, CO, who are you trying to kid. I'm not about to put in you on ignore bro, I was just a little caught off guard by the whole "**** you" comment...I still like you. At least put me in the "other" group of 'nucks fans.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 12:12 AM
And, CO, who are you trying to kid. I'm not about to put in you on ignore bro, I was just a little caught off guard by the whole "**** you" comment...I still like you. At least put me in the "other" group of 'nucks fans.

No big thing, dude. Just a subject that still hits a nerve with me from time to time. You are certainly in the "other" group of Vancouver fans. :)

WABronco
06-24-2006, 12:15 AM
No big thing, dude. Just a subject that still hits a nerve with me from time to time. You are certainly in the "other" group of Vancouver fans. :)
Hell, I was even cheering for Edmonton in the playoffs. That may put me in the "other" group in the eyes of other 'nucks fans too...

Peace

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 12:47 PM
Good to see that HFBoards is down on Draft Day

SoCalBronco
06-24-2006, 12:49 PM
Good chance you'll land Kessel today Herc (although I am hoping we pick him if we can't work out a trade). That would be a scary first line. Too much speed its almost not fair.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 01:18 PM
Good to see that HFBoards is down on Draft Day

Draft day and the trade deadline, never fails.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 01:42 PM
Good chance you'll land Kessel today Herc (although I am hoping we pick him if we can't work out a trade). That would be a scary first line. Too much speed its almost not fair.

Backstrom, Toews, or Mueller are my guesses.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 01:43 PM
Draft day and the trade deadline, never fails.

The trade deadline is usually from an overloaded server, today it seems to be a database error.

Jori
06-24-2006, 03:15 PM
I'm usually on HF Chat on draft day.

That Jack Johnson to the Pens for the 2nd overall pick may have some legs. If the story about Chicago wanting Toews at #3 is true, Kessel may be sitting there for the Caps.

If this happens, it's a stupid move by the Canes imo. That's an old defense and Jordan Staal is only going top five because of his name.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 03:24 PM
Johnson to Pitt is a joke of a trade for Carolina. Staal is nowhere near the prospect Johnson is.

SoCalBronco
06-24-2006, 03:27 PM
Johnson to Pitt is a joke of a trade for Carolina. Staal is nowhere near the prospect Johnson is.

I just hope Shero doesnt ruin it by getting too greedy. I read he is trying to force Carolina to sweeten the pot by throwing in Ladd because he knows Rutherford desperately wants Staal.

Don't get ****ing greedy, just take JJ and shutup, dont ruin the deal, Ray!!!

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 03:28 PM
Don't get ****ing greedy, just take JJ and shutup, dont ruin the deal, Ray!!!

****ing greedy is simply a straight-up deal

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 03:34 PM
According to TSN, Dallas has traded Niko Kapanen & a 7th round pick to Atlanta for Patrick Stefan & Jaroslav Modry

Jori
06-24-2006, 03:53 PM
Patrick Stefan? Alrighty

Jori
06-24-2006, 03:57 PM
Looks like the Pens will hold on to the pick...we shall see.

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:08 PM
Pens will take Toews or Staal.

SoCalBronco
06-24-2006, 04:10 PM
Pens will take Toews or Staal.

That better be just talk on their part to force more concessions from trading partners.

Kessel or JJ or Weber plus change, get it done, Ray!

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:13 PM
Pens were asking for too much from Carolina, so it looks like that deal is dead; this according to Pierre McGuire on TSN.

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:25 PM
Draft has begun...Blues take Johnson. Now the fun begins.

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:28 PM
Avs trade Alex Tanguay for Jordan Leopold and Calgary's second round pick. Holy sh*t

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 04:29 PM
I'm guessing SoCal puckered up when Bettman said there was a trade to announce

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 04:30 PM
Great move. I really like this deal. Leopold + an extra 2nd rounder and we don't have to pay Tanguay. That $$ can be spent upgrading the defense. Nice. !Booya!

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:33 PM
Pens take Staal.

I hate that Tanguay was traded within the division. This was a signability issue...no doubt about it.

SoCalBronco
06-24-2006, 04:33 PM
I'm guessing SoCal puckered up when Bettman said there was a trade to announce

Yes I definitely did. I got me excited. Damn Colorado and Calgary!! ;D

Pick-Staal.

**** me.

I'll take the positive angle though, maybe they took him to continue to hold it over Carolina's head until a deal gets worked out.

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:38 PM
Chicago takes Towes.

SoCalBronco
06-24-2006, 04:38 PM
CHI- Toews.

Herc, I told you Kessel would be a Cap.

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:43 PM
Caps take Backstrom

SoCalBronco
06-24-2006, 04:43 PM
It's Backstrom. My bad, Herc.

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:49 PM
Bruins take Kessel

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 04:54 PM
Filled the C spot. Now GMGM needs to find a way either to get back into the Top 12 since they definitely have the ammo, or get a goalie at #23.

Like the Backstrom pick. I know he said if he's not sure he'll be in DC this year, but he's said in the past he wants to either be on NHL team or stay in Sweden. He doesn't want to shuttle back and forth from an AHL team all year.

Jori
06-24-2006, 04:54 PM
Adrian Dater, who occsionally posts on HF Boards, said that Tanguay was asking for 5 million a season.

Blue Jackets take Brassard.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 04:55 PM
Damn, I was hoping the Avs would jump up and trade with Boston to grab Kessel. A Wolski-Kessel-Svatos line would have looked nice.

Ah well. I do like that the Avs have stockpiled some extra 2nd rounders with this deal, plus getting Leopold addresses a direct need. I didn't want them to give Tanguay a long term dealk at $4.5 million per year or more. I just wasn't comfortable with the committing that kind of cap space to him over a multitude of years.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 04:56 PM
Adrian Dater, who occsionally posts on HF Boards, said that Tanguay was asking for 5 million a season.

If that's true, this trade looks even better.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:00 PM
Islanders take Okposo

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:01 PM
Islanders take Okposo

Okposo's favorite team is the Avs. Doesn't mean anything really, just thought I'd throw that out there. ;D

So what do you think of the trade overall, Jori?

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:05 PM
Coyotes take Mueller

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 05:07 PM
4 of the Top 8 are Yanks. Nice.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:08 PM
4 of the Top 8 are Yanks. Nice.

Speaks well for the future of Team USA. :yep:

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:08 PM
Okposo's favorite team is the Avs. Doesn't mean anything really, just thought I'd throw that out there. ;D

So what do you think of the trade overall, Jori?
To be honest, I don't like that it's within the division. We already have a similar defenseman in Liles. Leopold does have a reasonable contract, he has one year left on a deal that will pay him about 1.05 million. This trade does give the Avs some cap relief and perhaps now the Avs will be players in free agency. The Avs need to stop trading with Calgary I'm mixed on this deal.

Pendejo
06-24-2006, 05:09 PM
If that's true, this trade looks even better.

Absolutely. Tanguay is a very talented player, but I'm not sure if he'll ever reach his ceiling.

I like the deal...especially considering the scratch that apparently was involved.

I agree wholeheartedly Clockwork. They can take Tanguay's money and see if they can solidify the D. And save up for Tay-o-door's upcoming VD shots.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:12 PM
Wild take Sheppard

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:15 PM
There's Keenan. I wonder if he's still sore from getting bent over by Nonis yesterday.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:17 PM
Panthers take Frolik

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:20 PM
Kings take Bernier

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:21 PM
Queens take a goaltender after missing out on acquiring Luongo.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:24 PM
Queens take a goaltender after missing out on acquiring Luongo.
Yeah a guy that can't help them for like five years....brilliant :thumbsup:

Pendejo
06-24-2006, 05:25 PM
Sorry if it's been mentioned, but according to nhl.com...the Avs also will receive a conditional second round pick in 2007 or 2008.

http://www.nhl.com/news/2006/06/275664.html

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:25 PM
Thrashers take Brian Little

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:30 PM
Laffs getting booed...beauty

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:31 PM
They love the Laffs in Vancouver. :laugh:

I wonder if the boos for the Avs will be louder.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:31 PM
Laffs take Tlusty

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:34 PM
Wow, I can't believe that the Pronger rumors are actually true. Looks like he truly does want out of Edmonton. I'm surprised.

Pendejo
06-24-2006, 05:34 PM
They love the Laffs in Vancouver. :laugh:

I wonder if the boos for the Avs will be louder.

Have you seen the video of the riots in Vancouver...after the Casucks LOST the Stanley Cup finals?

Pendejo
06-24-2006, 05:35 PM
What are the Pronger rumours?

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:36 PM
What are the Pronger rumours?

He's demanding a trade, he wants out of Edmonton.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:37 PM
Canucks take Grabner

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:39 PM
14 picks in and only 1 defenseman taken (Johnson). I like that seeing as that should be the Avs top priority. Their pick should be the best defenseman available.

WABronco
06-24-2006, 05:41 PM
Have you seen the video of the riots in Vancouver...after the Casucks LOST the Stanley Cup finals?
That was some bad ****...

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:41 PM
Nonis doesn't sound confident that they can re-sign Jovo.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:41 PM
Possible San Jose/ Montreal trade.

WABronco
06-24-2006, 05:41 PM
He's demanding a trade, he wants out of Edmonton.
Isn't it because his wife hates Edmonton or something weird like that?:rofl:

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:41 PM
Lightning takes Helenius

WABronco
06-24-2006, 05:42 PM
Nonis doesn't sound confident that they can re-sign Jovo.
Doesn't sound like many in Van are confident either.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 05:42 PM
Damn. 2 goalies down, #23 can't get here fast enough.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:43 PM
Nonis doesn't sound confident that they can re-sign Jovo.
I think he'll end up in Florida if they can't get Pronger.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:43 PM
Two picks to go until the Avs are up. Bobby Sanguinetti, Nigel Williams and (I know he's a forward, but I wouldn't mind grabbing him) Chris Stewart are all still there.

Pendejo
06-24-2006, 05:43 PM
He's demanding a trade, he wants out of Edmonton.

Apparently his wife doesn't like living in Edmonton. Hah! Calgary fans are going to have a ball with this one.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/Oilers/2006/06/24/1650808-sun.html

WABronco
06-24-2006, 05:44 PM
I think he'll end up in Florida if they can't get Pronger.
I was reading this morning that he had a Luongoesque reaction when he was traded to Van too...basically saying that he liked Florida a lot.

Pendejo
06-24-2006, 05:45 PM
I think he'll end up in Florida if they can't get Pronger.

Rumour is that the Rangers and Toronto are interested in Pronger. Obviously every team in the league is. I saw that on spector's, but I think it was grabbed from TSN.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:45 PM
TRADE:

Montreal trades the #16 overall pick to San Jose for the #20 pick and the #53.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:45 PM
I was reading this morning that he had a Luongoesque reaction when he was traded to Van too...basically saying that he liked Florida a lot.

Jovo was a rookie on that Panthers team that got swept by the Avs in 1996.

San Jose gets the 16th pick for the 20th & 56th picks.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:47 PM
Take a forward, San Jose. Leave the defenseman for us. :yep:

Tredici
06-24-2006, 05:47 PM
Sooo.... Tanguay joins his former teammates already playing for the Avs North. Perhaps he'll get that team Canada selection next. I think Bertuzzi's slot is now officially open.

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:47 PM
Sharks take Ty Wishart

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:48 PM
Bastards. Stay away from the defensemen! You already got Matt Carle, ****ers. ;D

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:49 PM
Queens involved in a big trade?

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:49 PM
Big trade perhaps coming up for LA

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:49 PM
Could Gaborik be involved?

Pendejo
06-24-2006, 05:51 PM
Where are you people watching/listening to the draft. I was listening online, but I'm way behind.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:51 PM
Where are you people watching/listening to the draft. I was listening online, but I'm way behind.

OLN

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:53 PM
TRADE:

Minnesota trades the #17 pick and Patrick O'Sullivan for Pavol Demitra. Minnesota gets robbed!

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:53 PM
Deal done

Queens trade Pavol Demitra to the Wild for the 17 pick and Patrick O'Sullivan

Jori
06-24-2006, 05:54 PM
Kings take Trevor Lewis

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:55 PM
Avs are on the clock!! Sanguinetti, Williams or Stewart please!! :)

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 05:59 PM
Chris Stewart!! Nice. :yep:

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:00 PM
Avs take Chris Stewart!!!!!!! YES

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:04 PM
Ducks take Mitera

Pendejo
06-24-2006, 06:10 PM
I don't know anything about Stewart, but at hockeysfuture.com they nailed this pick, and here's what they had to say about him.

"A less-than-impressive performance at the draft combine may drop the winger, but Colorado would love for this player to fall in their laps. Tough with touch, Stewart would help the team in its effort to deal with an aging forward unit."

http://hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=8895&mode=threaded&order=0

Edit: At 6'1 and 228 pounds...he has some good size. Something the Avs have been sorely lacking on their front line since they traded Deader.

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:10 PM
Habs take David Fischer

Mtbrncofn
06-24-2006, 06:11 PM
This is almost as good as trade deadline day.

For the record, I wish Tang would have gone at least out of the division too. Luongo up in Cansuck land sucks. The least he could have done was stay out of our division if he wasn't gonna play for us. ;D

I'd take Pronger or Jovo. :yep:

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:15 PM
Perhaps Tuuka Rask for Andrew Raycroft? WTF are the Laffs doing?

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:18 PM
Rangers take Sanguinetti off the boards

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:23 PM
Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft--official

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:24 PM
lmfao Fyers forgot who they were going to select

Flyers take Claude Giroux

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:30 PM
Caps take Semen Varlamov

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:33 PM
Sabres take Dennis Persson

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 06:35 PM
Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft--official

What the hell are the Laffs thinking? :kiddingme

Hercules Rockefeller
06-24-2006, 06:35 PM
Caps take Semen Varlamov

Take another G at #34 or #35 too.

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:39 PM
TRADE:

New Jersey trades #25 to St Louis for pick #30 and pick #77.

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:40 PM
St Louis takes Berglund

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:45 PM
Flames take goaltender Leland Irving

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 06:46 PM
Irving looks like Napoleon Dynamite.

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:50 PM
Dallas takes Ivan Vishnevsky

Jori
06-24-2006, 06:54 PM
Senators take Nick Foligno

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 06:55 PM
Just looking at the Central Scouting rankings and who's left, there appears to be several highly regarded players still on the board. Not bad considering the Avs have a pair of 2nd rounders. Hopefully some of these guys continue to fall.

Jori
06-24-2006, 07:00 PM
TRADE:

Detroit trades picks #29 and #152 to Phoenix for picks #41 and #47.

Jori
06-24-2006, 07:02 PM
Coyotes select Chris Summers (nice pick)

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:02 PM
Another American goes in the 1st round. I'm really liking it. :)

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:04 PM
Well, OLN cut their feed, so my draft coverage is over.

Ah well, time to follow the tracker on NHL.com.

Jori
06-24-2006, 07:06 PM
And the final pick in the first round, the Devils pick Matt Corrente

I'll update the Avs remaining picks and any DU player selections.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:22 PM
10 1st round picks (including 4 of the top 10) are Americans. 1/3 of the entire 1st round. Very encouraging. !Booya!

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:39 PM
Nigel Williams is still out there with only 4 picks left until the Avs are on the clock again.

:pray:

Jori
06-24-2006, 07:41 PM
Avs take Nigel Williams with the 51st overall pick! NICE!!!

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:42 PM
Nigel Williams!!!!

!Booya!!Booya!!Booya!!Booya!

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:42 PM
I'm loving this draft. :yep:

Jori
06-24-2006, 07:43 PM
Incoming DU freshman Keith Seabrook taken by the Caps at #52.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:45 PM
This is two years in a row that the Avs have made me happy on draft day. :notworthy

Now grab another good one at #59, boys.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:46 PM
Boom Boom Geoffrion's grandson is taken by Nashville at #56.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:47 PM
Avs are back on the clock, even though NHL.com still has it listed as Calgary's pick.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:48 PM
Avs take Codey Burki, C, Brandon, WHL.

Pretty good value, he was ranked as the 18th best North American skater.

Jori
06-24-2006, 07:48 PM
Avs take Codey Burki at #59

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 07:56 PM
NIGEL WILLIAMS, D, USA NTDP
http://www.tsn.ca/images/stories/20060616/draft_williams_49129.jpg

Born: 4/18/88 Ht: 6-4 Wt: 226 Shoots: L
From NHL Central Scouting - An offensive defenceman who likes to join the rush as well as lead the offense while he has the puck...pinches well for scoring opportunities and has a very hard shot from the point...makes a hard, accurate first pass...is difficult to beat one-on-one...very good wide-based skater with an excellent long stride.
From ISS - . Without a doubt one of the biggest draft wildcards. The number one attraction for this player is his combination of outstanding size and skill. He is blessed with a genetic gift and a relatively high level of skating and puck skill for a player this big. The Richmond BC native is a calm and composed rearguard who accomplishes many things in subtle ways.
From TSN - Attending Wisconsin next season...Played in for Team Illinois Midget Majors after a season with Shattuck...Was a 2nd team All-Star at 2004 Mac's Tournament...Played with the Under-17 team at the Four Nations Tournament in Piestany, Slovakia...Had 18 PIMS and +2 rating at 2006 World U-18s (0 points).

Codey Burki
http://www.wheatkings.com/printimage.aspx?picture_id=1071&w=200

Born: 11-17-1987, C, 6'0, 190, Shoots: Left
2005-06: Codey Burki is a player whose numbers in all categories have increased every season. While most players are draft eligible after two years of junior, Burki has completed three seasons in Brandon. While the Wheaties had a number of high-end players during the playoff run, Burki embraced the opportunity and ice time, securing an important role in the future of the club. According to McCrimmon, the native of Winnipeg, Manitoba saw his role change last season as Burki became more of a leader in Brandon both on and off the ice. Burki played alongside Mark Derlago and Finnish import Sami Sandell. He played in all situations and on both special teams. In 70 games, he led the team in scoring with 27 goals and 34 assists.

Jori
06-24-2006, 08:20 PM
Avs take Michael Carman at #81

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 08:29 PM
Michael Carman
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/players/m_carman.jpg

Born: 4-14-1988, C, 6'0, 180, Shoots: Left
2005-06: Carman continued to play a physical game and an offensive game for the U-18 team. In 60 games, Carman led the team in PIM with 102 and finished third on the team in points with 54 (21 goals, 33 assists). He also had the 2nd most power play goals with 11. Carman also played very well against NCAA opposition. In 22 games, Carman finished second on the team in PIM (42), points (18), assists (11), and points per game (.82). He tied for first on the team with power play goals with four and tied for third on the team with overall goals with seven.

Jori
06-24-2006, 08:32 PM
http://hockeysfuture.com/prospect/michael_carman

Carman is the 63rd ranked NA skater. He'll be attending Minnesota in the fall. That gives the Avs three prospects who will be playing at Minny this up coming season (Stoa, Peltier, Carman).

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 08:36 PM
http://hockeysfuture.com/prospect/michael_carman

Carman is the 63rd ranked NA skater. He'll be attending Minnesota in the fall. That gives the Avs three prospects who will be playing at Minny this up coming season (Stoa, Peltier, Carman).

Nigel Williams will be playing at Wisconsin in the fall.

Jori
06-24-2006, 08:41 PM
Islanders

Jori
06-24-2006, 08:42 PM
Islanders draft incoming DU freshman Rhett Rakhshani at pick #100

Jori
06-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Nigel Williams will be playing at Wisconsin in the fall.
Yup. Wisconsin comes to DU in early January, so I'll be attending one of those games as it'll be in my Pioneers Pack :thumbsup:

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 08:44 PM
Kyle Medvec from Westminster, CO is drafted by the Wild with the 102nd pick.

Jori
06-24-2006, 08:48 PM
Medvec went to high school in Minnesota. I don't think he has committed to a school yet.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 08:56 PM
Avs must have made a deal with the Oilers to get a 4th rounder, it says they've selected Kevin Montgomery, D, with the 110th pick.

Another American, he'll be attending Ohio State University.

Jori
06-24-2006, 09:02 PM
I have no idea how the Avs got that pick or if it's some kind of mistake by NHL.com

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 09:06 PM
There must have been a trade since it says (from EDM) underneath it.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 09:20 PM
Holy smokes, Minnesota just drafted a goaltender who's 6'7. :haw!:

Tredici
06-24-2006, 09:28 PM
Holy smokes, Minnesota just drafted a goaltender who's 6'7. :haw!:


If ya can't beat em.... block em.

Ha.

Extremely good calls again this year, CO. I know if you are happy, all Avs fans will eventually be.

^5

Jori
06-24-2006, 09:32 PM
Apparently we traded our 5th round pick to the Isles

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 09:33 PM
If ya can't beat em.... block em.

Ha.

Extremely good calls again this year, CO. I know if you are happy, all Avs fans will eventually be.

^5


I certainly hope so, my reputation is on the line here. ;D

Unlike the Broncos & Nuggets, the Avs have had this tendency to draft guys I really like. Well, the Nuggets have drafted guys I liked two years in a row (Jameer Nelson & Jarrett Jack) and then traded them 20 minutes later. :cuss:

I'm very happy with draft day for the 2nd consecutive year. I think the Avs are really doing a fine job of re-stocking their farm system. Certainly helps when you hang on to those 1st & 2nd round picks for a couple of years instead of peddling them at the deadline (same goes for prospects in the system). I give Lacroix credit for resisting the urge last season.

Mtbrncofn
06-24-2006, 09:45 PM
I agree with Tred. If CO's happy with the pick, then so am I. :)

Jori
06-24-2006, 10:05 PM
Apparently the Isles used out 6th round pick as well.

Jori
06-24-2006, 10:06 PM
Toronto takes incoming DU freshman TYLER RUEGSEGGER with the 166th pick.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 10:10 PM
Apparently the Isles used out 6th round pick as well.

I'm guessing that the Isles owned Edmonton's 4th rounder and traded it to the Avs for their 5th & 6th rounders.

Jori
06-24-2006, 10:25 PM
Panthers draft DU recruit MARC CHEVERIE at pick 193.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 10:26 PM
I always meant to show off some more of my Avs stuff (I showed a bit on the Post Your Pic thread), here's a couple of other items I enjoy.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 10:28 PM
St. Patrick

Jori
06-24-2006, 10:30 PM
DU retruit JESSE MARTIN drafted by Atlanta with pick 195

Jori
06-24-2006, 10:32 PM
Avs draft Billy Sauer, goaltender out of Michigan, with their final pick at #201. This could be a STEAL!

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 10:34 PM
Avs draft Billy Sauer, goaltender out of Michigan, with their final pick at #201. This could be a STEAL!

It could just be my NCAA hockey bias, but I like it. :yep:

Jori
06-24-2006, 10:44 PM
Okay, I think this is what happened. Apparently pick #110 belonged to the Islanders in the Mike Peca trade. The Avs gave up their 5th and 6th round picks for that 4th round pick to select Mongtomery.

So for the second straight draft, the Avs do not select any European players. The Avs also used four of their six picks on NCAA players. When you take into account last year's draft that's 9 of 15 selections used on college players.

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 10:58 PM
And the Canes make Justin Kreuger this years Mr. Irrelevant. Congrats Justin.

I have to say that I'm very happy overall with the Avs draft. They seemed to hold true to form in going with the best player available rather than drafting for need.

I applaud them again, they're doing a fine job of rebuilding the farm system.

Now they need to justify this Tanguay trade by going out on the open market and spending the cap space they saved by trading him on an upgrade for the team......namely on defense. There are a glut of nice looking free agent defensemen and the Avs now should have the flexibility to make a serious run at one of them.

Today was a good day, hopefully there's more to come in a week. :)

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 11:09 PM
Phone Calls Pouring In For Pronger (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=169649&hubname=)

VANCOUVER (CP) - Kevin Lowe was a little busier than he thought he'd be considering the Edmonton Oilers didn't have a first-round pick in Saturday's NHL entry draft.

The Oilers GM's cellphone was ringing non-stop a day after star defenceman Chris Pronger and his agent officially asked for a trade due to personal reasons.

"I thought I was coming here and going to have a nice, quiet draft and sit around and wait for the second round for our pick," Lowe said. "But there's been a lot of talk, at the same time we have to be careful not to react too quickly and do the right thing.

"There's no question there's a lot of interest. It's almost like having the first pick, you get all the calls."

Lowe was coy Friday when first asked about Pronger's trade request but by Saturday acknowledged his new-round reality.

"We're certainly going to look around because the (trade) request was made, but we're not going to be knee-jerk to anything," said Lowe. "We'll do it, like we always have, when it's in the best interests of the hockey club."

Pronger, coming off an MVP-like playoff performance, has four more years on his contract paying him $6.25 million a season - worth every dime.

There won't be a shortage of suitors because of it and Lowe isn't handcuffed by having to try and deal him to specific U.S. cities.

"Not really, he doesn't have a no-trade clause so there can't be many stipulations," said Lowe. "But I don't want to get into the particulars. If we do in fact pursue it, there will be all the options we need."

Lowe, in fact, knew for quite a while that Pronger might demand a trade because of the personal situation in question but it still didn't dull the blow Friday.

"Yes I knew but I was always hoping that things would change," said Lowe. "It's a personal matter and I don't want to get into it from their perspective. It's not like it caught me by surprise but it's still a shot in the gut after you finally digest it."

Lowe still used the word "if" when discussing a Pronger trade, leaving the door slightly open that perhaps a move could be avoided.

"My favourite motto is expect the unexpected but I don't want to lead anybody on. I just don't know what will happen," Lowe said.

"For our fans, everything will work out. We'll make sure it does."

The Oilers finally did get to draft Saturday, selecting Michigan native Jeff Petry 45th overall, a 6-2, 176-pound right-handed defenceman who is an agile skater. He had 15 points (1-14) in 48 games with Des Moines of the USHL this past season.

"We had him rated in the top 15 on our list," said Oilers scouting director Kevin Prendergast. "Our scouts really, really liked him only because of the upside. We're a little thin on defence within the organization and we think he's going to be able to play for us in four or five years."

Lowe, meanwhile, has his work cut out these days. He has nine players headed for unrestricted free agency next Saturday, chief among them goalie Dwayne Roloson. Lowe has already contacted Roloson's agent.

"We've made an offer," said Lowe. "And let's leave it at that."

Clockwork Orange
06-24-2006, 11:17 PM
Naturally, Oiler fans are extremely pleased by all of this.

http://www.pommpiehockey.com/images/traitorpronger.jpg

WABronco
06-25-2006, 12:13 AM
Naturally, Oiler fans are extremely pleased by all of this.

http://www.pommpiehockey.com/images/traitorpronger.jpg
Talk about a cheap excuse for a trade demand...

Tredici
06-25-2006, 12:27 AM
He has nine players headed for unrestricted free agency next Saturday, chief among them goalie Dwayne Roloson.

Wow. That could close the window of Stanley opportunity rather quickly... Luongo had better be Superman. Or his coming perceived as him being one.

Clockwork Orange
06-25-2006, 02:54 AM
Some shots of the Avs 1st rounder, Chris Stewart.

Clockwork Orange
06-25-2006, 02:56 AM
And another.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-25-2006, 09:56 AM
So did anyone read Dater's article on Stewart this morning? I like the pick for the Avs and would have loved the Caps to have traded up for him, but to say some predraft scouting surveys had him as a Top 10 is a total load of BS. This draft was considered 10-12 deep, and Chris was never rated in that range. But I'm sure I'll get to hear Moser and Clough talk about this on Monday like it's a fact.

Clockwork Orange
06-25-2006, 02:43 PM
So did anyone read Dater's article on Stewart this morning? I like the pick for the Avs and would have loved the Caps to have traded up for him, but to say some predraft scouting surveys had him as a Top 10 is a total load of BS. This draft was considered 10-12 deep, and Chris was never rated in that range. But I'm sure I'll get to hear Moser and Clough talk about this on Monday like it's a fact.

I know that Central Scouting had Stewart as the 8th ranked North American skater. Perhaps Dater saw that list and interpreted it as Stewart being ranked as the 8th best prospect in the draft. Either that or he's just making things up, I dunno.

Clockwork Orange
06-25-2006, 03:03 PM
Edmonton fans are out of their minds. Just reading some of their Pronger trade threads on a couple of different boards and they've thrown around names like Staal, Kovalchuk, Crosby, Malkin and Nash. Someone there also said that "Pronger's value is twice what it was when the Oilers traded for him a year ago." ::)

Reminds me a lot of the Mike Comrie situation from a few years ago. In their minds he was a future Hart Trophy winner and they wouldn't settle for less than a king's ransom for their "superstar." They're not quite as bad as Toronto fans (I'll never forget the Cory Cross, Jonas Hoglund & an 8th round pick for any superstar in the NHL proposals they used to throw out there constantly) but their not that far off either.

Nuggets4
06-25-2006, 03:06 PM
What are some of the good hockey boards CO?

Clockwork Orange
06-25-2006, 03:08 PM
What are some of the good hockey boards CO?

The two that I lurk around are www.hfboards.com and http://mb.scout.com/bhockey.

Clockwork Orange
06-25-2006, 03:11 PM
Some images of the new prospects.

Nicklas Backstrom (AO's new best friend :))
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290677.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBCA20DC9927047946

Michael Neuwirth
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290705.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB4C81C10306A2F470

Michael Carman
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290630.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB16B6C73CC8AA1C20

Chris Stewart
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290418.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBD947EC2E32DB9DB6

Clockwork Orange
06-25-2006, 03:16 PM
Carl Sneep
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290685.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB4355CC78F45ED23C

Jordan Staal
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290171.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBEA36D95EAA3D069F

Nuggets4
06-25-2006, 03:21 PM
The two that I lurk around are www.hfboards.com and http://mb.scout.com/bhockey.

Thanks man.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-25-2006, 03:54 PM
I know that Central Scouting had Stewart as the 8th ranked North American skater. Perhaps Dater saw that list and interpreted it as Stewart being ranked as the 8th best prospect in the draft. Either that or he's just making things up, I dunno.

I saw at the Avs site they've got him as the 8th best NA skater, but that list is accurate as of 4-20. I really hope Adrian didn't go off of a 2 month old list when he wrote the article.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-25-2006, 03:55 PM
Nicklas Backstrom (AO's new best friend :))
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290677.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBCA20DC9927047946


Ditch the mullet

SoCalBronco
06-25-2006, 04:04 PM
Carl Sneep
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290685.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB4355CC78F45ED23C

Jordan Staal
http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71290171.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBEA36D95EAA3D069F

Thanks for the pictures, CO. :thumbsup:

Although I am still really bummed out over Shero failing to pry JJ from Carolina. I read he rejected a straight up trade and insisted on getting Ladd in addition and that's how it just fell apart. Im so ****ing pissed right now. I like Sneep and Strait though.

Clockwork Orange
06-25-2006, 04:08 PM
Although I am still really bummed out over Shero failing to pry JJ from Carolina. I read he rejected a straight up trade and insisted on getting Ladd in addition and that's how it just fell apart.

If that's true, that's just Shero being greedy.