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Bronx33
04-26-2006, 11:38 PM
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Pendejo
04-26-2006, 11:43 PM
Kiddie porn? Are you ****tin me? She's probably older than you.

Are you a 90 year old stuck in a 20 year old's body? Every other guy is talking about how hot she is and you're worried about her age. Unbelievable. :nono:

mt...but you do get worked up.

Smurf is a fun poster, but clearly a bit loose in the head. He's conscientious. Don't you remember the pictures he showed us of him in his brand new hockey gear...because he was sauced. He was formidable to say the least.

Maybe 13 year olds are that developed in jacksonville. Let's give the Smurf the benefit of the doubt here. Let's just chalk up his screeching about laying off of Sean Avery to youthful idealism, and assume that he's not a complete dumbass.

Bronx33
04-26-2006, 11:44 PM
You're right. But I thought he stole his Vezina, and his Hart trophy. He stole his money from the 'Habs this year, and unless he picks up his play by a large margain...he's putting an unfair burden on the rest of the team...who to this point have blocked a ton shots and made his life easy.

It's time for Tay-o-door to bail his team out. The've carried him to a 3-0 lead in the Stanley Cup playoffs. It's his turn to make them look good.

He's stolen series before...he doesn't have to do that...at least not yet. He just needs to carry his weight.

I really don't care about his history or what teams payed him it's not his fault colorado brought him on with his salary and Q throwing him in the furnace right away. As far as the defense is concerned they were blocking shots before theo came aboard and it's their job anyways. (I just want to see the guy get a fair shake) if you ask me this team has givin me more than i ever expected in the playoffs with all the holes in the line up.

Breck Bronc
04-26-2006, 11:47 PM
Back on subject. Has there been a more fun Avalanche team to watch (besides the two Cup winners)? This Colorado team is always a threat to score and never gives up when they're down. It's amazing to think they've beaten Dallas when trailing by a goal with less than 2 minutes remaining in the third period two times in a row. The Stars hardly ever lose a thrid period lead, let alone in back to back playoff games.

Joe Sakic and Rob Blake are playing like they're 28, not in their late-30's. Andrew Brunette has gone from the answer to a trivia question (who scored the last goal on Patrick Roy) to a very important player on a rejuvinated team. Skrastins and Clark are the most unlikely shutdown defense pairing I've ever seen. Give Lacroix credit for getting those two guys for nothing. Even Brisebois had a strong game.

Alex Tanguay had two goals, including the game winner, but needs to get his head back in the game. He's taking way too many penalties in the offensive zone. He almost cost the team again tonight after taking another stupid penalty at the end of a second period. Hejduk didn't help by taking another penalty after Tanguay's, but at least he was on the PK and trying to make something happen (Blake would have had a breakaway if the ref swallowed his whistle).

As far as Theodore, he's letting in a lot of flukey goals and screened shots. He hasn't had a chance to face a lot of easy shots and get into a grove. It seems like either the Avs block the Dallas shots or they will get through on a screen. I think Theo's biggest problem is his smaller size; bigger goalies like Roberto Luongo give shooters less open net when they're being screened.

I hope some of the Dallas players like Mike Modano and Jason Arnott give up before game 4. Lord knows Bill Geurin already has. I'd like a relatively easy game after two emotional, overtime wins.

Bronx33
04-26-2006, 11:49 PM
They interviewed tippet and he went out of his way to say that penalty morrow took was beyond stupid.

Mtbrncofn
04-26-2006, 11:51 PM
I think I just heard on Altitude that Guerin only played 13 minutes tonite? That just doesn't seem right if you're trying to win a game.

Pendejo
04-26-2006, 11:52 PM
I think I just heard on Altitude that Guerin only played 13 minutes tonite? That just doesn't seem right if you're trying to win a game.

He's playing without a heart.

Bronx33
04-26-2006, 11:53 PM
I think I just heard on Altitude that Guerin only played 13 minutes tonite? That just doesn't seem right if you're trying to win a game.


12:29 to be exact, hes in the dog house for that clarke goal.

Breck Bronc
04-26-2006, 11:53 PM
They interviewed tippet and he went out of his way to say that penalty morrow took was beyond stupid.And he's right. You never, ever try and hook a player when you're 200 feet from your own net. When you're winning by a goal with two minutes left in a playoff game it's even dumber. Morrow is a good player, but I've never thought he was very smart. Tonight just proved that he might be drinking that same Texas water as Vince Young and George W. Bu...nevermind.

Bronx33
04-26-2006, 11:55 PM
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LOL! check out liles

Breck Bronc
04-26-2006, 11:56 PM
He's playing without a heart.Maybe Bill Geurin dressed up as the Tin Man for Halloween along with Brendan Morrow as the Scarecrow, Niklas Hagman as the Cowardly Lion and Mike Modano as Dorothy. Would that make Marty Turco Toto?

Mtbrncofn
04-26-2006, 11:57 PM
He's playing without a heart.


That's ok, with luck on our side, his season will be over soon and he and Dorothy and the rest of the gang can head off down the yellow brick road to find one. :)

Mtbrncofn
04-26-2006, 11:58 PM
Maybe Bill Geurin dressed up as the Tin Man for Halloween along with Brendan Morrow as the Scarecrow, Niklas Hagman as the Cowardly Lion and Mike Modano as Dorothy. Would that make Marty Turco Toto?


LOL It fits, since I'm sure he's in Tippet's dog house.

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 12:00 AM
LOL It fits, since I'm sure he's in Tippet's dog house.Beat you by a minute. Damn, I'm good ;) .

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 12:03 AM
Beat you by a minute. Damn, I'm good ;) .

Boooo! I still have dial up, damnit. That's my story and I'm stickin to it. :)

Clockwork Orange
04-27-2006, 12:06 AM
This is where the Avs need to buck the trend of past playoff seasons and put an opponent away. No getting extended for an extra game or two, finish them off and get some rest before round 2. Let the other teams beat the hell out of each other while they sit back and remain healthy while waiting for an opponent.

Pendejo
04-27-2006, 12:07 AM
Back on subject. Has there been a more fun Avalanche team to watch (besides the two Cup winners)? This Colorado team is always a threat to score and never gives up when they're down. It's amazing to think they've beaten Dallas when trailing by a goal with less than 2 minutes remaining in the third period two times in a row. The Stars hardly ever lose a thrid period lead, let alone in back to back playoff games.

Joe Sakic and Rob Blake are playing like they're 28, not in their late-30's. Andrew Brunette has gone from the answer to a trivia question (who scored the last goal on Patrick Roy) to a very important player on a rejuvinated team. Skrastins and Clark are the most unlikely shutdown defense pairing I've ever seen. Give Lacroix credit for getting those two guys for nothing. Even Brisebois had a strong game.

Alex Tanguay had two goals, including the game winner, but needs to get his head back in the game. He's taking way too many penalties in the offensive zone. He almost cost the team again tonight after taking another stupid penalty at the end of a second period. Hejduk didn't help by taking another penalty after Tanguay's, but at least he was on the PK and trying to make something happen (Blake would have had a breakaway if the ref swallowed his whistle).

As far as Theodore, he's letting in a lot of flukey goals and screened shots. He hasn't had a chance to face a lot of easy shots and get into a grove. It seems like either the Avs block the Dallas shots or they will get through on a screen. I think Theo's biggest problem is his smaller size; bigger goalies like Roberto Luongo give shooters less open net when they're being screened.

I hope some of the Dallas players like Mike Modano and Jason Arnott give up before game 4. Lord knows Bill Geurin already has. I'd like a relatively easy game after two emotional, overtime wins.


As to the first paragraph...I agree completely as I've already said pretty much the exact same thing tit for tat.

(Edit: I meant to address the fact that earlier tonight I mentioned that both Sakic and Blake look young)

Skrastins is a very steady defenseman...he plays smart and tough. There's no denying that while Clark had a decent season...he's playing tremendous hockey when it counts the most...the playoffs.

Tanguay is starting to come around...his slalom through the stars defense early in the game is proof of that. Right now he's playing with a rook and Jim Dowd who is playing very good. If we're giving grace periods to guys who didn't get a lot of ice time leading up to the playoffs...Alex deserves one. Tanger will produce points, but clearly the penalties he's taken the past two games are just bone headed, and must stop.

Good call on Tay-o-doors problem being his smaller size. That's why in a previous post I pointed out that he is never going to get his huge pads back...so it's time for him to play good solid hockey. He's all over the place. Sprawling hither and thither. Yes it's the D's job to prevent shots(in response to another post)...but ultimately it's his job to stop the gawd damned puck. That's why he makes the huge money. I don't care how many games he's had with the team...he's in the midst of the greatest tournament in pro sports...his team is picking him up left and right...it's time for him to be the goalie he's paid to be. He needs to be better than Aebischer. Right now he's not. He didn't have a clue on either Stu Barnes' or Zubov's goals. Neither were screened.

He does make some fine saves...but he needs to be more consistent. He needs to earn his dough, and make a liar out of naysayers like me. I hope I'm wrong.

What netminder in the playoffs (aside from Turco) is Tay-o-door going to outplay man to man. Sooner or later it will come down to that. It still may in this series.

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 12:12 AM
And he's right. You never, ever try and hook a player when you're 200 feet from your own net. When you're winning by a goal with two minutes left in a playoff game it's even dumber. Morrow is a good player, but I've never thought he was very smart. Tonight just proved that he might be drinking that same Texas water as Vince Young and George W. Bu...nevermind.


I classify morrow as a slighty smarter avery....

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 12:14 AM
As to the first paragraph...I agree completely as I've already said pretty much the exact same thing tit for tat.

(Edit: I meant to address the fact that earlier tonight I mentioned that both Sakic and Blake look young)

Skrastins is a very steady defenseman...he plays smart and tough. There's no denying that while Clark had a decent season...he's playing tremendous hockey when it counts the most...the playoffs.

Tanguay is starting to come around...his slalom through the stars defense early in the game is proof of that. Right now he's playing with a rook and Jim Dowd who is playing very good. If we're giving grace periods to guys who didn't get a lot of ice time leading up to the playoffs...Alex deserves one. Tanger will produce points, but clearly the penalties he's taken the past two games are just bone headed, and must stop.

Good call on Tay-o-doors problem being his smaller size. That's why in a previous post I pointed out that he is never going to get his huge pads back...so it's time for him to play good solid hockey. He's all over the place. Sprawling hither and thither. Yes it's the D's job to prevent shots(in response to another post)...but ultimately it's his job to stop the gawd damned puck. That's why he makes the huge money. I don't care how many games he's had with the team...he's in the midst of the greatest tournament in pro sports...his team is picking him up left and right...it's time for him to be the goalie he's paid to be. He needs to be better than Aebischer. Right now he's not. He didn't have a clue on either Stu Barnes' or Zubov's goals. Neither were screened.

He does make some fine saves...but he needs to be more consistent. He needs to earn his dough, and make a liar out of naysayers like me. I hope I'm wrong.

What netminder in the playoffs (aside from Turco) is Tay-o-door going to outplay man to man. Sooner or later it will come down to that. It still may in this series.



Aebischer is riding the pine in nadsville.

Pendejo
04-27-2006, 12:16 AM
Theo was riding the pine as well before he got hurt. I said that Theo has to be better than Abby, and he hasn't been...so what if Abby is taking Tay-o-doors place as Huet's backup. It's at a much friendlier price.

Pendejo
04-27-2006, 12:20 AM
Bronx...has Tay-o-door shown you anything in THESE playoffs that give you any confidence in him?

He's looked completely clueless on more than a couple of the goals he's given up the past two games.

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 12:21 AM
I classify morrow as a slighty smarter avery....

You better quit trashing on Avery, Bronx.....or else.

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 12:23 AM
Theo was riding the pine as well before he got hurt. I said that Theo has to be better than Abby, and he hasn't been...so what if Abby is taking Tay-o-doors place as Huet's backup. It's at a much friendlier price.


Iam just saying woulda coulda shoulda really don't matter if your going to chew somebody out it would probably be PL the one who made the deal, i really don't think it was for this years playoff run because PL knows we don't have what it take to go the distance. But more likely for next season, is theo is worth the money? i guess that yet to be seen but i wouldn't use his proformance in the playoffs as a tell all see all for the future.

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 12:24 AM
You better quit trashing on Avery, Bronx.....or else.

It's spelled (sean) for those who care.

24champ
04-27-2006, 12:24 AM
You better quit trashing on Avery, Bronx.....or else.
I think Bronx has a man crush on Avery or something. He brings him up alot dont you think?

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 12:27 AM
He didn't have a clue on either Stu Barnes' or Zubov's goals. Neither were screened.The Zubov 5-on-3 goal was scored because of a great Morrow screen.

Theo hasn't had to be great in the 3 wins and I don't think he's had a chance to be great in the first 3 games.

If we win this series we'd either face Legace and the Wings, Mason and the Predators, Toskala and the Sharks, or Gigeure and the Ducks (we can't face Calgary or Edmonton is the second round due to seeding). The only goalie of those four that is definitely better than Theo is Gigeure. Toskala is an unknown at this point and I'd be much more scared of Thornton, Cheechoo and Marleau than their goalie.

Pendejo
04-27-2006, 12:30 AM
Iam just saying woulda coulda shoulda really don't matter if your going to chew somebody out it would probably be PL the one who made the deal, i really don't think it was for this year of the playoff run because PL knows we don't have what it take to go the distance. But more likely for next season, theo is worth the money i guess that yet to be seen but i wouldn't use his proformance in the playoffs as a tell all see all for the future.

I don't think I've chewed anyone out. I just don't think Theodore is very good. I hope I'm wrong. He can't use his huge pads anymore, and I don't think that he's ever going to live up to his Vezina billing. I thought he didn't deserve that trophy as it was.

My whole point is that he owes it to his teammates not to look like an amateur on half the shots he faces, or when he plays the puck. Hell...earlier tonight he stole a puck from Tanguay, and turned it over.

You're right in saying that the trade was Lacroix's fault...all I said is that Tay-o-door is paid better than Aebischer, and now he needs to play like that.

I hope that by the time the playoffs are over for the AVS you get to rub this in my face. In a perfect world it would be with a Stanley cup ring plugging up one of tay-o-door's ears.

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 12:32 AM
The Zubov 5-on-3 goal was scored because of a great Morrow screen.

Theo hasn't had to be great in the 3 wins and I don't think he's had a chance to be great in the first 3 games.

If we win this series we'd either face Legace and the Wings, Mason and the Predators, Toskala and the Sharks, or Gigeure and the Ducks (we can't face Calgary or Edmonton is the second round due to seeding). The only goalie of those four that is definitely better than Theo is Gigeure. Toskala is an unknown at this point and I'd be much more scared of Thornton, Cheechoo and Marleau than their goalie.


Man! this kinda reguards Pendejo post
goal 1 - oddman rush yes theo got over a split second too late but almost got it, he can't leave the puck handler until the pass is underway.
goal 2 - total screen
goal 3 - The puck deflected off clarks stick what the heck is he suppose to do?

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 12:32 AM
The Zubov 5-on-3 goal was scored because of a great Morrow screen.

Theo hasn't had to be great in the 3 wins and I don't think he's had a chance to be great in the first 3 games.

If we win this series we'd either face Legace and the Wings, Mason and the Predators, Toskala and the Sharks, or Gigeure and the Ducks (we can't face Calgary or Edmonton is the second round due to seeding). The only goalie of those four that is definitely better than Theo is Gigeure. Toskala is an unknown at this point and I'd be much more scared of Thornton, Cheechoo and Marleau than their goalie.


If I could pick, I'd take Nashville, and the Oil second. :)

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 12:34 AM
I don't think I've chewed anyone out. I just don't think Theodore is very good. I hope I'm wrong. He can't use his huge pads anymore, and I don't think that he's ever going to live up to his Vezina billing. I thought he didn't deserve that trophy as it was.

My whole point is that he owes it to his teammates not to look like an amateur on half the shots he faces, or when he plays the puck. Hell...earlier tonight he stole a puck from Tanguay, and turned it over.

You're right in saying that the trade was Lacroix's fault...all I said is that Tay-o-door is paid better than Aebischer, and now he needs to play like that.

I hope that by the time the playoffs are over for the AVS you get to rub this in my face. In a perfect world it would be with a Stanley cup ring plugging up one of tay-o-door's ears.


Fine lets see if theo can start to get into a groove in his 8th game.

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 12:39 AM
I'm putting my faith in Theo, but it's shaky. I'm being honest here. You can look back at his season before he came to us and the heel break and it was definitely less than stellar.

I certainly hope he returns to Vezina/Hart form even if they weren't deserved. ( I'm not saying they weren't. )

Clockwork Orange
04-27-2006, 12:45 AM
I certainly hope he returns to Vezina/Hart form even if they weren't deserved. ( I'm not saying they weren't. )

I'll say it, he didn't deserve the Hart or the Vezina.

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Hart
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Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 12:45 AM
Man! this kinda reguards Pendejo post
goal 1 - oddman rush yes theo got over a split second too late but almost got it, he can't leave the puck handler until the pass is underway.
goal 2 - total screen
goal 3 - The puck deflected off clarks stick what the heck is he suppose to do?I agree. I don't think Theo has let in any horrible goals. The two he let in game 1 he had no chance on. The first 3 Dallas goals of game 2 were off weird bounces. I do think he should have had Modano's goal at the end of the second period in game 2. I don't think he had much of a chance on all 3 goals tonight.

All I know is he's made every stop in the third period and overtime in this series (of course it helps when the Stars hit the post in the first overtime game and didn't even get a shot on goal in the second).

Pendejo
04-27-2006, 12:48 AM
I'll say it, he didn't deserve the Hart or the Vezina.

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Just the two men I was thinking of.

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 12:49 AM
I'll say it, he didn't deserve the Hart or the Vezina.

http://www.recoilmag.com/news/grfx/avalanche_coaches_may_have_known_0702.jpgThat's better 8') . And Theo wouldn't have won those two trophies had Roy elected to play in the Olympics and not piss off all those Canadian general managers.

ClevelandBronco
04-27-2006, 12:50 AM
I don't think I've chewed anyone out. I just don't think Theodore is very good. I hope I'm wrong. He can't use his huge pads anymore, and I don't think that he's ever going to live up to his Vezina billing. I thought he didn't deserve that trophy as it was.

My whole point is that he owes it to his teammates not to look like an amateur on half the shots he faces, or when he plays the puck. Hell...earlier tonight he stole a puck from Tanguay, and turned it over.

You're right in saying that the trade was Lacroix's fault...all I said is that Tay-o-door is paid better than Aebischer, and now he needs to play like that.

I hope that by the time the playoffs are over for the AVS you get to rub this in my face. In a perfect world it would be with a Stanley cup ring plugging up one of tay-o-door's ears.

I'm with Pendejo on this one. I'm not even close to being convinced that Theo is an upgrade. Too many wild looks over his shoulder when one whistles past him. Too many rebounds. No puck handling skills to speak of. I just want to see a return on investment before I buy in.

Aebi would punch a guy in the junk in a heartbeat if he skated too close. I doubt I'll ever see that kind of scrap coming from Theo. He just bitches to the refs after anyone comes close.

Pendejo
04-27-2006, 12:56 AM
I agree. I don't think Theo has let in any horrible goals. The two he let in game 1 he had no chance on. The first 3 Dallas goals of game 2 were off weird bounces. I do think he should have had Modano's goal at the end of the second period in game 2. I don't think he had much of a chance on all 3 goals tonight.

All I know is he's made every stop in the third period and overtime in this series (of course it helps when the Stars hit the post in the first overtime game and didn't even get a shot on goal in the second).

Ok. I will retreat. Every goal the stars have scored in this series has either been unstoppable, or a fluke. He's had no chance.

I'm clearly getting to much into the negative here...as the team is playing their best hockey of the season. I admit that I am simply not a Theodore fan, and I think his earlier success was a product of yes his ability, but also his huge pads. I think a good deal of the time he looks lost in the net, and he fights the puck like Watermock fights the barmaid at last call.

Just watching these games, and I see the effort the team is putting out there in front of him, and I want to believe that when the team breaks down, or simply can't get anything going...that he'll steal a game.

I just don't think he looks very good. And on the Stu Barnes goal he was flat out late...not a split second. It wasn't a laser, and it wasn't a perfect shot...he should have made the save. (Edit: I don't think there is a goalie in the world that could have made the save on that Texas leaguer of a shot that hit him in the back, and trickled across the line. He was in perfect position)

But the bottom line is the AVS are winning, and I hope that Tay-o-door proves me wrong.

broncocalijohn
04-27-2006, 03:04 AM
im posting here. GO DUCKS! Thursday night comeback. Love to play the AVS in the semi finals. Low seeds make great hockey.

Mogulseeker
04-27-2006, 06:43 AM
Just the two men I was thinking of.

:o

Jori
04-27-2006, 06:51 AM
I share some of Pandejo's reservations regarding Theodore. His strength is his athleticism; he has very quick feet. I don't think the reduction in his pads has hurt him, I think the smaller glove has definately been a factor. He doesn't have a great glove hand to begin with.

He's a better talent then Aebischer, but he'll be more heavily criticzed then David because of his salary. I don't think it's fair to really judge this trade until after of 06-07 season. Yes, he'll have to play better in the second round if the Avs are to advance, but at this point, anything else the Avs do is a bonus. Nobody would have expected what we have seen this week.

Bronco_Beerslug
04-27-2006, 06:57 AM
Great OT win for the AVs!

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Avalanche all but bury stumbling Stars

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Alex Tanguay's overtime goal powered the Avalanche to a commanding 3-0 lead over the Stars on Wednesday

April 27, 2006
DENVER (AP) -- The Dallas Stars' inability to close out a game has them teetering on elimination.

The Colorado Avalanche took a 3-0 lead in their best-of-seven series Wednesday night when they beat the Stars in overtime for the second straight game. This time it was 4-3 on Alex Tanguay's game-winner.

Tanguay attempted a cross-ice pass to Ian Laperriere that went off Willie Mitchell's skate and into the net at 1:09 of overtime, marking the second time in 48 hours the Avs had beaten the Stars after tying the score with a goal late in the third period.

This time, Andrew Brunette tied it at 3 on the power play with less than a minute left in regulation.

"We got a few lucky bounces," Tanguay said. "We're very fortunate."

They're also one win away from sweeping the second-seeded Stars.

"It's the way it's been for us in the series. The bounces haven't gone our way," Dallas goaltender Marty Turco said. "We have to find a way to win Game 4" Friday night in Denver.

The Avalanche have had 3-0 leads in the playoffs twice before and swept both series.

Maybe desperation will shake the Stars from their doldrums, Turco said.

"It's going to be an effort that is unparalleled from what we've seen from our group. Our backs are against the wall. When teams are desperate and guys are desperate, guys seem to play well," he said.

"We're going to expect to win. Nothing has been handed to them yet."

Maybe not, but only two NHL teams have ever overcome a 3-0 playoff deficit and the Stars have never been able to rally from a 2-0 hole since the 1968 quarterfinals, when they were the Minnesota North Stars and came back to beat Los Angeles 4-3.
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Dallas Stars goaltender Marty Turco (35) lets a shot from Colorado Avalanche's Joe Sakicslip past as he flops on the ice during the first period of Game 3 of their NHL first-round hockey playoff series at the Pepsi Center in Denver, Wednesday, April 26, 2006. The Avalanche beat the Stars 4-3 in overtime.
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Dallas Stars goalie Marty Turco, front left, kneels in the crease after giving up the tying goal to Colorado Avalanche left winger Andrew Brunette, back center, to send Game 3 of the teams' NHL Western conference first-round playoff series to overtime in Denver on Wednesday, April 26, 2006. Stars defenseman Sergei Zubov, front center, of Russia, and Avalanche center Joe Sakic, front right, look on. Avalanche right winger Milan Hejduk, back left, of the Czech Republic, and defenseman Rob Blake, back right, join in the celebration.
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Colorado Avalanche center Brett McLean, front left, and defenseman John-Michael Liles, front right, join in with teammates to congratulate left wing Alex Tanguay after his goal in overtime to give the Avalanche a 4-3 victory over the Dallas Stars in an NHL hockey first-round playoff game in Denver on Wednesday, April 26, 2006. The Avalanche lead 3-0 in the best-of-seven series.
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BMF Bronco
04-27-2006, 08:22 AM
Here's my two cents on Jose...

We have to realize like Bronx said, it's only his 8th game out of injury, he's going to have some rust, and if this is how he's playing "rusty" I can't wait to see him get into his groove. In addition, we don't need him to be Patrick Roy, we need him to be Hockey's version of Trent Dilfer, just be good enough to get us there and let the team do the rest while at the same time remaining in enough control not to piss it all away. I think we are seeing a way different team than we did in the regular season, they seem to have more intensity. One last thing, funny how Dallas is a different team when the shoot out is taken out of the picture!

bronco militia
04-27-2006, 08:27 AM
In addition, we don't need him to be Patrick Roy, we need him to be Hockey's version of Trent Dilfer, just be good enough to get us there and let the team do the rest while at the same time remaining in enough control not to piss it all away. !

I don't agree...he needs to be as good as Roy. Don't let this single playoff series wash away the sins of this past regular season and the questionable offseason moves.

there's going to be a few time in the playoffs when Theo will have to stand on his head and win a game by himself....so far he hasn't had to, but it's only a matter of time.

BMF Bronco
04-27-2006, 08:36 AM
I don't agree...he needs to be as good as Roy. Don't let this single playoff series wash away the sins of this past regular season and the questionable offseason moves.

there's going to be a few time in the playoffs when Theo will have to stand on his head and win a game by himself....so far he hasn't had to, but it's only a matter of time.
We will agree to diasgree, as I don't think these playoff teams are that of the one's Roy faced, the hated wings at their prime, the Stars with a good goalie, and others.

bronco militia
04-27-2006, 08:42 AM
We will agree to diasgree, as I don't think these playoff teams are that of the one's Roy faced, the hated wings at their prime, the Stars with a good goalie, and others.


I now see where you're coming from....but with the "new" rules and regulations on goalie equipment, a top goaltender will still be the most important player on each team....

BMF Bronco
04-27-2006, 08:43 AM
I now see where you're coming from....but with the "new" rules and regulations on goalie equipment, a top goaltender will still be the most important player on each team....
Very true!

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 09:08 AM
I share some of Pandejo's reservations regarding Theodore. His strength is his athleticism; he has very quick feet. I don't think the reduction in his pads has hurt him, I think the smaller glove has definately been a factor. He doesn't have a great glove hand to begin with.

He's a better talent then Aebischer, but he'll be more heavily criticzed then David because of his salary. I don't think it's fair to really judge this trade until after of 06-07 season. Yes, he'll have to play better in the second round if the Avs are to advance, but at this point, anything else the Avs do is a bonus. Nobody would have expected what we have seen this week.


I guess iam being more patient with theo (this year) i share the same reservations as all of you about theo but iam not going to nit pick him when hes only got 8 games under his belt 3 of those being playoff games. (Iam sure billington is working with him daily)

bronco militia
04-27-2006, 09:10 AM
I guess iam being more patient with theo (this year) i share the same reservations as all of you about theo but iam not going to nit pick him when hes only got 8 games under his belt 3 of those being playoff games.


no doubt....

Tredici
04-27-2006, 10:08 AM
I'll say it, he didn't deserve the Hart or the Vezina.

http://members.shaw.ca/shutterfly/images/summer/iginla2.jpg
Hart
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.recoilmag.com/news/grfx/avalanche_coaches_may_have_known_0702.jpg
Vezina

Tsk Tsk. Mr Gretsky will decide who deserves the trophies. Not something for us commoners to fret over.

Smiling Assassin27
04-27-2006, 10:18 AM
I guess iam being more patient with theo (this year) i share the same reservations as all of you about theo but iam not going to nit pick him when hes only got 8 games under his belt 3 of those being playoff games. (Iam sure billington is working with him daily)

based on his history, i'm beginning to think Theo's an upgrade for you guys. when the deal went down, i thought it looked sketchy but the potential of Theo surpasses anything Aebi could ever do, IMO.

Tredici
04-27-2006, 10:19 AM
Back on subject. Has there been a more fun Avalanche team to watch (besides the two Cup winners)? This Colorado team is always a threat to score and never gives up when they're down. It's amazing to think they've beaten Dallas when trailing by a goal with less than 2 minutes remaining in the third period two times in a row. The Stars hardly ever lose a thrid period lead, let alone in back to back playoff games.

Joe Sakic and Rob Blake are playing like they're 28, not in their late-30's. Andrew Brunette has gone from the answer to a trivia question (who scored the last goal on Patrick Roy) to a very important player on a rejuvinated team. Skrastins and Clark are the most unlikely shutdown defense pairing I've ever seen. Give Lacroix credit for getting those two guys for nothing. Even Brisebois had a strong game.

Alex Tanguay had two goals, including the game winner, but needs to get his head back in the game. He's taking way too many penalties in the offensive zone. He almost cost the team again tonight after taking another stupid penalty at the end of a second period. Hejduk didn't help by taking another penalty after Tanguay's, but at least he was on the PK and trying to make something happen (Blake would have had a breakaway if the ref swallowed his whistle).

As far as Theodore, he's letting in a lot of flukey goals and screened shots. He hasn't had a chance to face a lot of easy shots and get into a grove. It seems like either the Avs block the Dallas shots or they will get through on a screen. I think Theo's biggest problem is his smaller size; bigger goalies like Roberto Luongo give shooters less open net when they're being screened.

I hope some of the Dallas players like Mike Modano and Jason Arnott give up before game 4. Lord knows Bill Geurin already has. I'd like a relatively easy game after two emotional, overtime wins.

Boy I rarely disagree with ya Bronc but I'm going to have to take you to task on this one:

The Stars hardly ever lose a thrid period lead, let alone in back to back playoff games.

Quite contrary to that this past season the Stars gave up the lead in several games in the third. Then they played the OT cautious to get to the Shoot Out. Take away 12 SO wins and their numbers are pretty close to the Avs.

I'm also going to stand up for Tanquay. The guy is coming off an injury and still playing on a bad knee. He said himself he's not back in condition yet. He's at least half a step slow but he has heart and he's such a conscientious guy. I don't think it's head not in the game as much as it's his body.

I'm also worried that right now the best goalie we have is Skrastins...

And in the coming back from injury category word has it Kono has been skating hard. He probably needs some time to get his legs back but wouldn't it be sweet if he made it back to get some ice time.

Hogan11
04-27-2006, 11:14 AM
im posting here.

You know what? You're absolutely right John....retired my azz, I'm posting hockey stuff only here from now on as well....damn the Man, save the General Hockey Thread!! :charge:

Jori
04-27-2006, 11:29 AM
The earliest Konowalchuk could return is IF the Avs made it to the conference finals.

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 11:39 AM
Yeah! What Hogan said!

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 11:44 AM
I guess I never heard much on Kono's injury originally, but why such a long rehab? How bad was it?

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 11:47 AM
I've got a point to make and while it probably won't be a popular one, I'm puttin it out there.

Pez said the reason that this thread was being retired was due to bandwidth constrictions and because it had gotten too big. Take note of the size of the NPN thread and its size, and it hasn't been moved or semi retired.

I'm just sayin here.....

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 12:02 PM
I guess I never heard much on Kono's injury originally, but why such a long rehab? How bad was it?


I think tendons were separated from the bone.

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 12:14 PM
Boy I rarely disagree with ya Bronc but I'm going to have to take you to task on this one:

The Stars hardly ever lose a thrid period lead, let alone in back to back playoff games.

Quite contrary to that this past season the Stars gave up the lead in several games in the third. Then they played the OT cautious to get to the Shoot Out. Take away 12 SO wins and their numbers are pretty close to the Avs.

I'm also going to stand up for Tanquay. The guy is coming off an injury and still playing on a bad knee. He said himself he's not back in condition yet. He's at least half a step slow but he has heart and he's such a conscientious guy. I don't think it's head not in the game as much as it's his body.

I'm also worried that right now the best goalie we have is Skrastins...

And in the coming back from injury category word has it Kono has been skating hard. He probably needs some time to get his legs back but wouldn't it be sweet if he made it back to get some ice time.After looking at the stats, Dallas lost when winning after two periods 5 times this season, the second most in the NHL (St. Louis lost 9 times). I was thinking of those Dallas playoff teams with Eddie Belfour when making that statement. And it's still incredible to win back-to-back playoff games when trailing with less than two minutes to play in regulation.

Tanguay knows he can't take offensive zone penalites in close playoff games. I don't care if he's playing without an arm or spleen or foot, that's a mental mistake just like Brendan Morrow made with a minute left in the third. Tanguay's trying too hard to make something happen and it's cost the Avalanche at the end of the second period in games 2 & 3. I doubt he'll make the same mistake a third time.

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 12:28 PM
who is smarter than the ESPN twits.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=2288
http://www.tsn.ca/images/stories/20030515/monkey-james_36426.jpg

Maggie - the furry, crab-eating macaque from the Bowmanville Zoo - has returned to the NHL on TSN.

In 2003, she quickly became a hero in the hockey world, picking the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim to reach the Stanley Cup Final with the spin of a wheel. Having picked other big winners through three rounds of the playoffs, Maggie enjoyed new-found fame as the sport's wisest prognosticating primate.

The Stanley Cup simian was not as successful in her 2004 postseason run, though she did pick the Tampa Bay Lightning and Calgary Flames to meet in the Final. Maggie then picked Darryl Sutter's squad to take it all, but Lightning head coach John Tortorella had other ideas as Tampa Bay won the Cup in seven games.

The NHL lockout gave our little friend some time to recharge, and now she's ready to start all over again for the 2006 Playoffs.


Check the link for her current picks....

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 12:47 PM
"It's the way it's been for us in the series. The bounces haven't gone our way," Dallas goaltender Marty Turco said. "We have to find a way to win Game 4" Friday night in Denver.Turco must not have been watching the second period of game 2.

bronco militia
04-27-2006, 12:54 PM
who is smarter than the ESPN twits.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=2288
http://www.tsn.ca/images/stories/20030515/monkey-james_36426.jpg

Maggie - the furry, crab-eating macaque from the Bowmanville Zoo - has returned to the NHL on TSN.

In 2003, she quickly became a hero in the hockey world, picking the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim to reach the Stanley Cup Final with the spin of a wheel. Having picked other big winners through three rounds of the playoffs, Maggie enjoyed new-found fame as the sport's wisest prognosticating primate.

The Stanley Cup simian was not as successful in her 2004 postseason run, though she did pick the Tampa Bay Lightning and Calgary Flames to meet in the Final. Maggie then picked Darryl Sutter's squad to take it all, but Lightning head coach John Tortorella had other ideas as Tampa Bay won the Cup in seven games.

The NHL lockout gave our little friend some time to recharge, and now she's ready to start all over again for the 2006 Playoffs.


Check the link for her current picks....

2006 1st round picks: TB CAR NYR BUF DET COL CGY SJ

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 01:06 PM
2006 1st round picks: TB CAR NYR BUF DET COL CGY SJ

I would bet Bob McKenzies picks would improve if you feed him some crab.

Tredici
04-27-2006, 01:39 PM
And it's still incredible to win back-to-back playoff games when trailing with less than two minutes to play in regulation.



I believe we've now found the Avalanche version of

"We've got them just where we want them".

;)

Tredici
04-27-2006, 01:54 PM
The earliest Konowalchuk could return is IF the Avs made it to the conference finals.


And then he probably wouldn't have any legs. Still like to think about how much more potent this offense could have been if he and Marek could've stayed healthy.

Hogan11
04-27-2006, 02:09 PM
That's a karma thread that has been around since the very beginning MT....it is an institution here.

It is much larger than this one is though.....

Mogulseeker
04-27-2006, 02:30 PM
Ridiculously potent.

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 02:49 PM
How would you set the forward lines if the Avs were fully healthy? It's pretty tough to take out two guys for Kono and Svatos they way we're playing.

Brunette-Sakic-Hejduk - this line is too hot to split up
Konowalchuk-Wolski-Svatos - lots of offensive potential here
Tanguay-McLean-Laperriere - they've been great together
Laaksonen-Dowd-Hinote - awesome energy and defensive fourth line

Sit Turgeon and Richardson. Pierre just isn't producing anymore. I'm impressed with how smart Richardson is out on the ice and he'll be an important part of Colorado's future, but there's too much talent to keep him in this lineup.

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 03:29 PM
I know, I know...but if it was just all about size constraints, I'm just sayin. Plus it's offseason, and onseason for hockey.

I'm done griping about it now. :)

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 03:34 PM
Yeah, Turg seemed to hit his peak at the beginning of the season and really haven't seen much of him since then.

Pendejo
04-27-2006, 04:31 PM
I pulled this from the dallasnews.com

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/hockey/stars/stories/042706dnspostarssider.fa79d31.html

Theodore not flashy, but he's 3-0

By BRIAN FORBES / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News

DENVER – Montreal continues to hang over Colorado Avalanche goalie Jose Theodore.

Traded in March from a fishbowl existence in Canada, Theodore still works under the shadow of Patrick Roy's gigantic No. 33 jersey hanging from the Pepsi Center's rafters.

Roy left the Canadians and carried the Avalanche to two Stanley Cups, while Theodore's ability to carry any team since 2001 has been the subject of endless debate.

But after Wednesday's 4-3 overtime victory at the Pepsi Center, Theodore has what every playoff goalie wants at this time – a 3-0 series lead.

Theodore made just 19 saves and did nothing but sit and watch in overtime as the Avalanche came out flying before Alex Tanguay's game-winner 69 seconds in.

Theodore once again outdueled Marty Turco and the Stars in their most desperate moments.

"I thought Dallas tonight played their best game so far," Theodore said. "They came at it, they were moving the puck around, jamming the net and getting a lot of traffic in front of me."

Perhaps that was the only thing Theodore was missing Wednesday – a big save that would buoy his teammates and home fans that have embraced him more out of commitment than conviction.

"[Theodore] is playing very well," said Ian LaPerriere, who assisted on Tanguay's game-winner. "He's looking sharper and sharper every game."

He was unflappable under fire during Dallas' last power play of the third period and made arguably his best saves of the night in the second period to stop Jaroslav Svoboda and Brenden Morrow.

Much of Theodore's load was shouldered by his teammates, who did a good job occupying the shooting lanes and dropping bodies in front of potential shots.

They also protected – or at least delayed – their new netminder from facing any questions about his ability to protect his new home ice in the playoffs.

Tredici
04-27-2006, 04:38 PM
I think the coaching of Quennie coming from the gritty defenseman perspective is starting to show. Hopefully the defense keeps it up and Jose can continue to enjoy the ride. Then when it's about him stepping up, he'll be ready.

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 06:44 PM
Spezza to Havlat to Heatley; what a pretty goal. Spezza and Havlat are going off so far these playoffs.

I hate to say it, but Denver-boy John Grahame is not a very good goalie.

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 08:27 PM
Lucky a**ed wingies kronwall kicks a puck in and they count it.

Mtbrncofn
04-27-2006, 09:10 PM
The Wings just don't seem to want it too bad this year.

Pendejo
04-27-2006, 09:43 PM
Spezza to Havlat to Heatley; what a pretty goal. Spezza and Havlat are going off so far these playoffs.

I hate to say it, but Denver-boy John Grahame is not a very good goalie.

Perhaps...but his team isn't playing very well in front of him. You give the Sens any space, or take bad penalties...they're going to bury you. They've skated circles around the Lightning...and their toughs have drawn penalties.

Hopefully we won't have to see how Tay-O-Door fares under similar circumstances...

The Senators are a bunch of sharks circling the nets...they look hella strong.

SoCalBronco
04-27-2006, 10:11 PM
Wings go ahead 4-2

SouthStndJunkie
04-27-2006, 10:14 PM
Wings go ahead 4-2

Sweet!! Zetterberg with a huge goal.

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 10:19 PM
Why does it feel dirty in here?

Jori
04-27-2006, 10:19 PM
4-2 Sharks after two, Matt Carle with two assists.

SouthStndJunkie
04-27-2006, 10:20 PM
Game Over

Huge win for the Wings.

Jori
04-27-2006, 10:23 PM
That was a big win for Detroit, considering the absence of Yzerman.

Bronx33
04-27-2006, 10:34 PM
Game Over

Huge win for the Wings.



Bleck...:nutkick

SouthStndJunkie
04-27-2006, 10:35 PM
That was a big win for Detroit, considering the absence of Yzerman.

If they went down 3 games to 1, they would have been in big trouble.

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 10:36 PM
Not a good night for the officials in Edmonton. It's starting to look like the preseason in some of these playoff games. The circumstances that led to Detroit's third and game winning goal tonight were laughable.

SouthStndJunkie
04-27-2006, 10:37 PM
Not a good night for the officials in Edmonton. It's starting to look like the preseason in some of these playoff games. The circumstances that led to Detroit's third and game winning goal tonight were laughable.

The Oilers got the benefit of some crappy calls as well.

Breck Bronc
04-27-2006, 11:27 PM
If they went down 3 games to 1, they would have been in big trouble.The team that scores the most goals wins.

ClevelandBronco
04-28-2006, 12:01 AM
Looks like Avs fans can start thinking about a series with the Wings. To tell the truth, I'd rather do it that way than the way we'd have to do it if EDM won the series with DET. If that were to happen, we'd get (probably) the Sharks (maybe the Preds if we got really lucky), then (may the hockey gods be willing and may we prove to be worthy) the Flames after they put away the Oil.

At any rate, it's the Wings or the Flames up next (may the hockey gods be willing and may we prove to be worthy). I'd rather have the Wings now, and then deal with the winner of the Flames/Sharks (or Preds) series than I'd like to deal with the Flames in round 2, then almost inevitably face the Sharks in the WCS, once they take the Oil down.

Weirdest case scenario is still very much alive, though. Round 1: Avs over Stars, Oil over Wings, Sharks or Preds (wouldn't matter to the Avs in this scenario) and Flames over Ducks.

2nd round: Colorado over the San Jose/Nashville survivor and Edmonton over Calgary (or even an unlikely Anaheim. It wouldn't matter).

Western finals: No.7 Colorado vs. No. 8 Edmonton.

It'd take a lot of bouncing pucks to make it happen, but it's not an unrealistic possibility.

Problem is, if that pipe dream somehow becomes a reality, Stanley almost certainly goes East. (Unless, of course, the hockey gods are willing and we prove to be worthy.)

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 12:05 AM
Looks like Avs fans can start thinking about a series with the Wings. To tell the truth, I'd rather do it that way than the way we'd have to do it if EDM won the series with DET. If that were to happen, we'd get (probably) the Sharks (maybe the Preds if we got really lucky), then (may the hockey gods be willing and may we prove to be worthy) the Flames after they put away the Oil.

At any rate, it's the Wings or the Flames up next (may the hockey gods be willing and may we prove to be worthy). I'd rather have the Wings now, and then deal with the winner of the Flames/Sharks (or Preds) series than I'd like to deal with the Flames in round 2, then almost inevitably face the Sharks in the WCS, once they take the Oil down.

Weirdest case scenario is still very much alive, though. Round 1: Avs over Stars, Oil over Wings, Sharks or Preds (wouldn't matter to the Avs in this scenario) and Flames over Ducks.

2nd round: Colorado over the San Jose/Nashville survivor and Edmonton over Calgary (or even an unlikely Anaheim. It wouldn't matter).

Western finals: No.7 Colorado vs. No. 8 Edmonton.

It'd take a lot of bouncing pucks to make it happen, but it's not an unrealistic possibility.

Problem is, if that pipe dream somehow becomes a reality, Stanley almost certainly goes East. (Unless, of course, the hockey gods are willing and we prove to be worthy.)

The Avs can't play Calgary in round 2. If Detroit beats Edmonton, the Avs are the lowest remaining seed and have to play the highest remaining seed (Detroit). If Edmonton beats Detroit, both the #1 & #2 seeds will be eliminated, leaving Calgary as the highest seed left and Edmonton as the lowest. Under that scenario, the Avs would play the winner of the Sharks/Preds series.

ClevelandBronco
04-28-2006, 12:29 AM
The Avs can't play Calgary in round 2. If Detroit beats Edmonton, the Avs are the lowest remaining seed and have to play the highest remaining seed (Detroit). If Edmonton beats Detroit, both the #1 & #2 seeds will be eliminated, leaving Calgary as the highest seed left and Edmonton as the lowest. Under that scenario, the Avs would play the winner of the Sharks/Preds series.

You're absolutely correct. The Avs (#7) would be up against the Preds/Sharks survivor (#4 or #5) and EDM (#8) would take on CAL (#3).

That still leaves the weirdest case scenario alive: EDM d. CAL and COL d. SJS or NAS, leaving #7 against #8.

(Thanks, Clockwork. I read my post twice and still missed my miscalculation of the pairings.)

Tredici
04-28-2006, 08:49 AM
Spezza to Havlat to Heatley; what a pretty goal. Spezza and Havlat are going off so far these playoffs.

I hate to say it, but Denver-boy John Grahame is not a very good goalie.

You may hate to say it but apparently his Coach doesn't - on National TV.

Guess if he didn't think Grahame could hold them in he might've done something about it in trade - like the Oilers did. It doesn't matter who the player is for a coach to humiliate them in public makes me wince. Everything about that press conference made it clear Tortorella thinks his team is done.

Jori
04-28-2006, 11:22 AM
Grahame has never been a number one goaltender. I understand not wanting to pay Khabibulin the cash, but doesn't management deserve some of the blame for relying on two backup goaltenders (at this point in his career, Burke is a backup)? Luckily for Grahame, he's a UFA, he'll be somewhere else next year...that's for sure.

defenseman
04-28-2006, 11:54 AM
What a bunch of MORONS. I've seen primadonnas before, but these "wingie" fans take the cake. Not surprising, everytime I watch a hockey game, and Maltby and his bunch are out there with "s**t eating" grins on their faces, or the "you can't be serious trying to beat us" look on their faces, I just want to take a slap shot on their noggins. The ONLY two I really like are Stevie Y, and Shanahan. They actually appear down to earth for the most part......On that note, I am the self proclaimed "anti-christ" of all red wing fans. I truley despise them, however, I do respect their hockey talent. Keep in mind, the Oiler / WINGIE series is tied. Anything can happen in two or three games. Love to see the oilers send them home packing. Maltby and Draper crying in their beers..!!!!!!! Dman

Al Wilson
04-28-2006, 12:15 PM
Cruise control. Too bad, I thought we were going to sweep them. 5 games isn't too bad.

Funny how Tortorella says that Emery is our weak point . . His backup goalies seem to be doing well.

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 12:22 PM
What a bunch of MORONS. I've seen primadonnas before, but these "wingie" fans take the cake. Not surprising, everytime I watch a hockey game, and Maltby and his bunch are out there with "s**t eating" grins on their faces, or the "you can't be serious trying to beat us" look on their faces, I just want to take a slap shot on their noggins. The ONLY two I really like are Stevie Y, and Shanahan. They actually appear down to earth for the most part......On that note, I am the self proclaimed "anti-christ" of all red wing fans. I truley despise them, however, I do respect their hockey talent. Keep in mind, the Oiler / WINGIE series is tied. Anything can happen in two or three games. Love to see the oilers send them home packing. Maltby and Draper crying in their beers..!!!!!!! Dman

I will give you a run for you money in the wing hatin dept.

anthonypacino
04-28-2006, 12:23 PM
I am very happy that the Avs showed up and suprised me. I think Edmonton has a good shot at taking down the Wings, we actually might have a chance at this.

Smiling Assassin27
04-28-2006, 12:57 PM
I will give you a run for you money in the wing hatin dept.

that's too bad cuz we LOVE you...:-*

alkemical
04-28-2006, 01:39 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06116/685117-61.stm

Three possible GM candidates surface as Penguins start hunt

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 02:14 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06116/685117-61.stm

Three possible GM candidates surface as Penguins start hunt

I understand Cuban is interested in the Guins as well as the Pirates.

For as much as a flake he is, it would be nice to have a guy with some jack step in and take control of those teams......for a change.

alkemical
04-28-2006, 02:28 PM
I understand Cuban is interested in the Guins as well as the Pirates.

For as much as a flake he is, it would be nice to have a guy with some jack step in and take control of those teams......for a change.


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06115/684858-61.stm

Cuban also has eye on Penguins
Tuesday, April 25, 2006

By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Although there is no indication Dallas billionaire Mark Cuban will be buying his hometown Pirates anytime soon, he could be coming to a new arena near you as a limited partner in the Penguins' new ownership group.

"I have told several people who have contacted me that, although I wouldn't be the lead, or largest investor, I would kick in some money if it would help," Cuban wrote in an e-mail interview.




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damn straight hogan, i don't have a problem with cuban, he's a bit nuts but he likes to win.

Tredici
04-28-2006, 02:48 PM
It's fun to have a rivalry. And I look at it this way. Part of the whole reason Bettman had to break up the NHL was because of the whining of the have nots. The whole idea to break up "elite" clubs like Colorado and Detroit and spread the talent around the league was supposed to be some kind of magic fix.

Umm.. okay. Been there. Done that. Ex Avies and Wingies in all kinds of new unis.

But who is that in the SC Playoffs? Yup. Colorado and Detroit. And if we actually see those two teams meet up? Goes to show you just can't knock down terrific organizations. So all the whiners sick of "seeing Redwings and Avs" can continue to be sick of it.

Long live the greatest feud on ice!

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 02:48 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06115/684858-61.stm

Cuban also has eye on Penguins
Tuesday, April 25, 2006

By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Although there is no indication Dallas billionaire Mark Cuban will be buying his hometown Pirates anytime soon, he could be coming to a new arena near you as a limited partner in the Penguins' new ownership group.

"I have told several people who have contacted me that, although I wouldn't be the lead, or largest investor, I would kick in some money if it would help," Cuban wrote in an e-mail interview.




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damn straight hogan, i don't have a problem with cuban, he's a bit nuts but he likes to win.

The thing with Cuban is, you never know if he's actually serious about the stuff he says or not. Normally, I don't think much about clowns like him...but after 12 losing seasons (and staring number 13 in the face, a MLB record I believe)..then drastic measures are necessary.......he's proven he's no Jeffrey Loria and that alone makes him ok in my book to take over the Pirates.

alkemical
04-28-2006, 02:49 PM
the pirates have hurt the pens big time hogan.....

i was hoping the steelers (blech) could have helped with it...

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 02:49 PM
that's too bad cuz we LOVE you...:-*


You lie!

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 02:50 PM
the pirates have hurt the pens big time hogan.....

i was hoping the steelers (blech) could have helped with it...

Just speaking in terms of one downtrodden Pittsburgh team to another is all.

alkemical
04-28-2006, 02:51 PM
well with the pirates, they got that nice new park, and the ownership states that things will change, then they funk it all up

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 02:55 PM
well with the pirates, they got that nice new park, and the ownership states that things will change, then they funk it all up

I wouldn't trust McClatchy & Littlefield to mow my lawn let alone run a MLB franchise. Yeah, they got the park...but it really hasn't helped them all that much.

alkemical
04-28-2006, 03:10 PM
I think they just like the fatter margins IMO.

I love it down at that park though hogan.

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 04:46 PM
It's interesting what weinrich has to say about bert, soooo the NHL fans throughout the entire league gave him he11 all season (he earned it) and iam not going to feel sorry for him.

http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/sports/stories/2669712.shtml


All of today's: News | Sports
from the Morning Sentinel

As I write tonight watching the playoffs, I can only think of what might have been. The final run for my Canucks didn't end the way I had envisioned, and so I am home watching like all of you.

As much as my run with St. Louis had excitement, this year can only be described as disappointing -- for a number of reasons, but mostly because we didn't make the playoffs. Now, I wait to see who wins and then get to work. That is, getting in shape and working on a new team or what comes next.

I have watched some games and this is my summary. Get used to games won on special teams and don't expect to see the banged-up, bloody wars of old.

You have to respect the league for sticking to the plan of zero-tolerance calls by the refs. I will always stand behind my belief that I would rather see games decided by even-strength goals that I feel are harder to earn. One game I watched, one team scored four power-play goals and the other scored three. The final score, 4-3.

Maybe the new fan enjoys this type of hockey, I don't. I guess it comes from playing in the type of games where guys are crawling on and off the ice with cuts and bruises, not whining about getting a call for a minor hook, but rather catching his breath because he knows the next shift will be just as physical.

Can anyone who is a fan of sports tell me that the past 15 years of playoffs have been boring because of hooking and holding? I guess you could call me old school.

Remember a game a few years ago when a player appeared to attack another and injured the player and then received a year's suspension. That attacking player was Todd Bertuzzi, a guy I got to know while playing in Vancouver alongside him.

Todd has served his suspension, but his sentence will never end. No matter where he plays, people call him a criminal. I witnessed it every game, and I feel it is time to let it go. I have expressed my feeling about the issue and I don't agree with his actions, but the same sort of thing has happened many times before. The game was just fortunate that no one was injured any worse.

Todd is one of the most gifted players I have ever played with. Now, his greatest asset has been taken away from him. Known as one of the most feared power forwards to come along in years, along with quickness and excellent puck skills, he was one of the premiere total packages. After a year away from the game, and a new standard of calls, everyone could see that Todd's hesitancy to play physical hurt his game this year. Of course, there were always flashes of brilliance that would amaze anyone in the building.

It is always something to watch a guy that large appear so nimble and graceful. But the constant reminders of the incident and the relentless ribbing by the press could not have made the season a pleasant one. Sure the life of an athlete comes with a price, but shouldn't this be the best time of an athlete's life, not his least memorable? Amidst all this, when the team was officially eliminated from the playoffs, Todd came to me after the game and told me he was sorry the team didn't play well enough so I could be in the playoffs. And, after the last game of the season, with my future up in the air, Todd was the only guy in the room to come over and give me a pat on the back. I didn't expect anyone to do this and no one had to, but it meant alot to me that it was Todd.

Little moments in your life can speak volumes and these two showed me a Todd Bertuzzi no one would hear about. I hope he gets a chance to get out of Canada and go to a city where he can leave the game at the rink and enjoy every day without the abuse.

One regret about the time in Vancouver was I never was really able to talk to my old buddy Dave Nonis, who was under a lot of pressure to get his team into the playoffs. But I will always be thankful for the opportunity he gave me. We will have plenty of time to talk when it is all over.

So, now I am back with my family and it feels good. I will enjoy the rest of the school year with them, and start training a little earlier than I had hoped. But maybe this will be good for a guy the players in Vancouver called "the Veteran."

My agent has some work to do this summer and I will prepare the same. I will watch the postseason and still the fire will burn to get there again and all the while I will make up for lost time at home. Another season in the books, but the silver lining to it ending is always the family. And I am ready to enjoy.

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 04:50 PM
Remember a game a few years ago when a player appeared to attack another and injured the player and then received a year's suspension.

It's so cute when Bertuzzi apologists try to include the lockout as a part of Bertuzzi's suspension. His actual suspension was 20 games.

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 05:08 PM
It's so cute when Bertuzzi apologists try to include the lockout as a part of Bertuzzi's suspension. His actual suspension was 20 games.



Well it's all working out in the end.

Tredici
04-28-2006, 05:08 PM
Actually, I like this part:

"when a player appeared to attack another "

I guess that was an illusion. How about this? I'll let it go when people can face up to what actually happened without trying to make it sound like a little scuffle on the ice instead of the deliberate and insane act that it was.

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 05:29 PM
No way was that a goal....

Breck Bronc
04-28-2006, 05:32 PM
Why are they playing the goal horn in Philly when the Sabres score?

The puck has to be in the net on Briere's breakaway. I wonder what they'll say.

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 05:33 PM
Bad luck killing the Boys tonight....:(

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 05:33 PM
Why are they playing the goal horn in Philly when the Sabres score?

The puck has to be in the net on Briere's breakaway. I wonder what they'll say.

The horn dude just couldn't handle it (must be a big philly fan)

Breck Bronc
04-28-2006, 05:38 PM
Forsberg is God.

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 05:39 PM
Flyers fightin' back!!!!! LET'S GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 05:44 PM
Forsberg is God.

I missed it what did he do?

Breck Bronc
04-28-2006, 05:49 PM
I missed it what did he do?Amazing puck possesion play and pass that set up Philly's goal.

Pezman
04-28-2006, 06:11 PM
Like the new thread name Hogan? ;D

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 06:16 PM
Like the new thread name Hogan? ;D

Why Pez, I'm honored :thanku:

Peter with a great game going......tied up, LET'S GO FLYERS!!!

Jori
04-28-2006, 06:16 PM
Peter the Great...he ties it up!

Breck Bronc
04-28-2006, 06:18 PM
Seeing Foppa play so well in the playoffs would be a lot harder to take if the Avs weren't winning their series 3-0.

Great game so far tonight in Philly.

edit - Forsberg is playing like a man possesed tonight. This is why he's the best player in the NHL. He's so good in the playoffs when it really counts.

Pezman
04-28-2006, 06:20 PM
Why Pez, I'm honored :thanku:

Peter with a great game going......tied up, LET'S GO FLYERS!!!
Thought you'd like that Ha!
That game is looking pretty tight! I'm still thinking this series has 7 games written all over it Hogan. Then again, if Buffalo keeps playing that second line so precariously, Philly is going to eat them alive

Mogulseeker
04-28-2006, 06:29 PM
I have a hockey game to play tonight.... it starts at 9:45 almost right durring the Av's game. I will miss it, so will someone record it for me in case center ice forums dont get it up?

Breck Bronc
04-28-2006, 06:33 PM
Penalty shot coming up for Derek Roy.

Breck Bronc
04-28-2006, 06:34 PM
And Roy comes up with a terrible shot. Still 2-2.

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 06:34 PM
And Roy comes up with a terrible shot. Still 2-2.

He had him too..

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 07:09 PM
Ggggooooaaaallllll!!!!!!!!!

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 07:16 PM
Penalities are going to kill them yet.....tied again.

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 07:22 PM
Thought you'd like that Ha!
That game is looking pretty tight! I'm still thinking this series has 7 games written all over it Hogan. Then again, if Buffalo keeps playing that second line so precariously, Philly is going to eat them alive

I'm stubberon Pez, what can I say?

Goal Flyers!!! :yayaya:

Pezman
04-28-2006, 07:33 PM
Getting nervous here. I so badly want the Avs to close this thing out tonight and rest up for round 2... please please please wrap this sucker up tonight Avs!!!

Hogan11
04-28-2006, 07:42 PM
Great move by Forsberg to seal it!!! Series tied up now..Good Guys are back from the dead!

Jens1893
04-28-2006, 08:05 PM
Flyers even up the series at 2.

Go Avs!

SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 08:18 PM
avs up 1-0!

Bronco_Beerslug
04-28-2006, 08:20 PM
avs up 1-0!

Alright, Go AVs! Game on OLN.

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 08:30 PM
Terriable none save by theo...

Pezman
04-28-2006, 09:39 PM
putain de merde! I guess it was too much to ask for a sweep. Damn it Avs..... pull it together for that third period. We need more aggression!

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 09:40 PM
Looks like not much has changed. The Avs, once again, have a chance to close a team out and they're laying an egg. The Avs are 1-5 in their last 6 games in which they can eliminate an opponent.

3-1 Dallas after two periods. Pathetic.

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 09:41 PM
Just an aweful period just aweful..

Jens1893
04-28-2006, 09:41 PM
putain de merde! I guess it was too much to ask for a sweep. Damn it Avs..... pull it together for that third period. We need more aggression!

jeeeeez, pezzie, dont swear in ****ing french .... just dont do it.

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 09:47 PM
The Avs allowed 19 shots on goal in the 2nd period, 30 for the game.

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 09:49 PM
I have a feeling MT is not wearing her lucky jersey......>:'(

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 09:50 PM
The Avs allowed 19 shots on goal in the 2nd period, 30 for the game.

3 penalties in the second didn't help.

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 09:59 PM
And the avs get the gun out early in the 3rd........

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 10:05 PM
Avs not playing with much urgency at all so far in the 3rd period.

Mtbrncofn
04-28-2006, 10:46 PM
Actually, I like this part:

"when a player appeared to attack another "

I guess that was an illusion. How about this? I'll let it go when people can face up to what actually happened without trying to make it sound like a little scuffle on the ice instead of the deliberate and insane act that it was.

That's the part that irked me too. Appeared? I hear Pearl Vision has good specials, maybe he should check them out.

Pezman
04-28-2006, 10:47 PM
To quote RhymesDU..

The Avs tonight were as the French put it "Le Suck"

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 10:48 PM
To quote RhymesDU..

The Avs tonight were as the French put it "Le Suck"

I Le gree..

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 10:49 PM
Now 1-6 in their last 7 games in which they can eliminate an opponent.

Same old story.

Mtbrncofn
04-28-2006, 10:53 PM
I have a feeling MT is not wearing her lucky jersey......>:'(

Do I look guilty? :confuzzle Were you wearin' yours, Bronx?

K, I admit....it was hanging in the closet. :hitself:

Mtbrncofn
04-28-2006, 10:55 PM
I certainly hope that this doesn't let those damn Stars think they have a shot now. I agree with the rest of you guys, highly disappointing....although as CO pointed out, not too surprising.

I don't think I cared for Q switching up lines.

Pezman
04-28-2006, 10:56 PM
Now 1-6 in their last 7 games in which they can eliminate an opponent.

Same old story.

The thing that really irked me tonight was the lack of production on the boards. We also gotta start winning some more faceoffs as we're just getting crushed off the drop. Sigh... I was looking forward to a nice relaxing weekend and hoping to have this series wrapped up before the draft...

Bronx33
04-28-2006, 10:58 PM
Do I look guilty? :confuzzle Were you wearin' yours, Bronx?

K, I admit....it was hanging in the closet. :hitself:


I KNEW IT!!

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 10:58 PM
The thing that really irked me tonight was the lack of production on the boards. We also gotta start winning some more faceoffs as we're just getting crushed off the drop. Sigh... I was looking forward to a nice relaxing weekend and hoping to have this series wrapped up before the draft...

The thing that really bothered me tonight was the Avs getting away from what had worked for them in the first three games. In games 1-3, they constantly threw the puck towards the net with people in front, tonight they seemed as though they were trying to make too many pretty plays and too many extra passes.

12th man
04-28-2006, 11:00 PM
To quote RhymesDU..

The Avs tonight were as the French put it "Le Suck"
yeah they did. but turrco played a great game. we couldn't score anthing, and couln't score on any of our Power plays, and we looked real sloppy tonight. oh well, the Stars are still screwd. the AVS will still win the series. Im not worried. the stars had one good game when their backs where up against the wall and a game where we could let up. so what. the avs will win the next seris. dallas is screwed.

Pendejo
04-28-2006, 11:39 PM
Obviously the AVS let a golden opportunity slip away tonight, but I don't think they sucked. They generated quite a few great scoring chances...they missed an open net on a couple...and had some pucks bounce over their sticks on others. It happens. The AVS played their worst game of the series, and the stars played their best.

I thought Tay-o-door had his best game of the series. He looked pretty strong in the crease to me. The goal he gave up to Lehtinen was pathetic, and I thought he could have stopped Hagman on his breakway, but overall he seemed a lot sharper in his nets. Saying that...I think that the next time he ventures out of the crease to play a puck he should immediately be deported. He is flat out terrible when he plays the puck. At one point tonight according to a graphic on OLN...he'd played the puck 23 times and turned it over eight.

Also...the stars were a completely different team on the PK. They were active, and the AVS didn't adjust...they were slow with the puck...and Turco made them pay.

The AVS took the stars' best shot tonight, and lost...but they're certainly not outclassed...not in this series anyway. The good guys are still in control, and while they've given the stars life...it's only temporary. It'll go six games at the most...

Breck Bronc
04-29-2006, 12:41 AM
If you would have told me two weeks ago that we'd be up 3 games to 1 in our first round series I would have taken it. Now I don't feel too confident about winning that final game.

This franchise has been great for a decade now. They've given this community so many good memories. We've seen tons and tons of excellent players wearing an Avalanche sweater over the years. But the one thing this franchise hasn't done well, at least since 1998, is put teams away when they have the chance. Only the '99-'00 team showed killer instict between the '98 choke against Edmonton and today. Things are going to get real interesting (and scary) if we don't win in Dallas on Sunday.

The big guns need to step it up again. Only Rob Blake played well tonight out of our experienced players. Alex Tanguay is frustrating the **** out of me. He hasn't done much in the playoffs since his great performance in the 2001 playoffs (and I suppose his game 7 heroics against New Jersey gives him immunity from my full wrath). Even Alex's two goals in game 3 did not go in the net off his own stick.

Joe Sakic also played one of his poorest playoff games since the 2000 Western Conference Finals. I'm not worried one bit about him picking up his game again on Sunday.

Jose Theodore changed the complex of the game by letting in a weak goal to Lehitnen. I think if the Avalanche could have built a 2-0 lead the Stars would have folded. Instead Theo gave them life and the Avs never really recovered. He did look better in the second and third, but the damage was done.

dbroncos31
04-29-2006, 12:47 AM
Aright Flyers!!! Esche is playing really well right now. Forsberg is a beast, and we're starting to get the second tier scoring we need. The D is stepping up as well.

Mtbrncofn
04-29-2006, 01:06 AM
I find it offensive that I heard the Flyers fans referred to as the Orange Crush tonight. There's only one of those.

Get your own cool nickname! :P

Pendejo
04-29-2006, 01:16 AM
Breck...you predicted the series would end in six, and I think it still will (If not in 5).

The AVS weren't pathetic tonight...they just lost to a desperate stars team.

Your boy Tay-o-door played stronger tonight. He gave up a weak ass goal, but it's only what his...9th or tenth game with the team? He just needs some time to adjust...WE MUST GIVE HIM TIME!!!

The AVS had the goals necessary to win on their sticks...they just didn't bury them. They didn't get mauled. If Tay-o-door stops the first two goals like he should have...we're looking at a 1-1 game...and that's with the boys blowing several scoring chances.

They'll rally, and win the series.

Breck Bronc
04-29-2006, 01:34 AM
Breck...you predicted the series would end in six, and I think it still will (If not in 5).

The AVS weren't pathetic tonight...they just lost to a desperate stars team.

Your boy Tay-o-door played stronger tonight. He gave up a weak ass goal, but it's only what his...9th or tenth game with the team? He just needs some time to adjust...WE MUST GIVE HIM TIME!!!

The AVS had the goals necessary to win on their sticks...they just didn't bury them. They didn't get mauled. If Tay-o-door stops the first two goals like he should have...we're looking at a 1-1 game...and that's with the boys blowing several scoring chances.

They'll rally, and win the series.I just get tired of seeing this team blow opportunities to finish teams at home.

We didn't get any bounces, that's for sure.

Theo isn't my boy (Budaj is). I hope Billington can help him with his glove-hand problems. He looks fine down low, which is a good sign.

dbroncos31
04-29-2006, 01:47 AM
Yeah I know, but it's cool that one of my favorite teams stole my other favorite team's slogan. It's not really stelaing to me, because I love both teams. I just need the University of Miami to start calling their fans the Orange Crush and I'm set.

phillybroncosnut
04-29-2006, 01:09 PM
I find it offensive that I heard the Flyers fans referred to as the Orange Crush tonight. There's only one of those.

Get your own cool nickname! :P


That's only been going on for the past 3 playoff seasons and you just caught on tonight? You're one of those real bright rednecks aint ya?

Breck Bronc
04-29-2006, 02:31 PM
Jay Cutler just scored for the Oilers, giving Edmonton a 2-0 lead halfway through the game. Jay Cutler hasn't looked good in nets for Detroit.

Tredici
04-29-2006, 04:43 PM
How about the Stars spending Thursday in the mountains? Then again, don't those turds practice in Vail? I say if you want to skate around in the Rockies put on a burgandy sweater with swooshes.

How 'bout them Oilers?

Pezman
04-29-2006, 04:45 PM
Whew, that was an interesting finish for Detroit. One more til my master plan is launched! Go Oilers!!!

Tredici
04-29-2006, 04:55 PM
This from "hockey town"??!!


One of the loudest cheers came in the second period when the Tigers' 18-1 victory over Minnesota was shown on the video board and announced to the crowd.

Now that's funny right there.

Al Wilson
04-29-2006, 08:26 PM
1 down, 3 to go.

Mtbrncofn
04-29-2006, 08:49 PM
Jay Cutler just scored for the Oilers, giving Edmonton a 2-0 lead halfway through the game. Jay Cutler hasn't looked good in nets for Detroit.


What am I missin here?

Legace is stinkin 'er up.

Mtbrncofn
04-29-2006, 09:34 PM
Way to go, Ducks. Down 3-0. That is precisely why I want Calgary gone. They are almost invincible at home.

Tredici
04-30-2006, 01:47 PM
The MIGHTY Jim Dowd...

5 on 3

LET'S GO!

Mogulseeker
04-30-2006, 01:50 PM
eh

Tredici
04-30-2006, 02:12 PM
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04-30-2006, 02:25 PM
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Tredici
04-30-2006, 03:34 PM
Buh Bye Stars!

(This time Brunette ends a series for the GOOD guys).

Kid A
04-30-2006, 03:35 PM
Yes!!!! We got terribly outshot, but at least (from what I heard) Theo played well. :wave: Adios media favorites.

Rascal
04-30-2006, 03:37 PM
WOOOOTTTT!!!!!

Talk about one hell of a weekend!!!!

Rascal
04-30-2006, 03:37 PM
Theo Kicked Some Serious Ass Today!!!

hades
04-30-2006, 03:38 PM
Oh yeah! Living in Dallas right now realy is great! My neighbors live and breath the fricken Stars, I love it!

Jori
04-30-2006, 03:41 PM
Brunette makes up for 2003 ^5

And big props to Jose...it's nice to see him have a great game like that going into the next series.

Tredici
04-30-2006, 03:43 PM
That's the kind of game that gives me too much stress. I swear hockey can drive you insane.

Bronx33
04-30-2006, 03:44 PM
Oskie!!

Disco Man
04-30-2006, 04:32 PM
Habs Canes in one hour......home team has yet to win a game in this series 2-2 Game 5 up next from Carolina

Dudeskey
04-30-2006, 04:38 PM
Legace is stinkin 'er up.


Yeah he may be short, but he's no Mike Vernon... Time to bring in Osbad™
:rofl:

Pendejo
04-30-2006, 04:50 PM
Brunette makes up for 2003 ^5

And big props to Jose...it's nice to see him have a great game like that going into the next series.

Yes. Tay-o-door was outstanding today he made all the big saves he and the AVS needed. The stars strategy of shooting the puck in at Jose from all over the place kind of backfired today...he was good with the glove thus preventing second and third chances.

I thought the AVS did a great job in the series of not allowing the stars to be as physical as they wanted. I believe they actually out hit them today. They neutralized the star's size and strength advantage by moving the puck, and out skating dallas.

I was glad to see Modano back on the ice after that brutal hit he took from Clark. I'm a Modano fan.

A fine series win for the AVS, and Tay-o-door earned his scratch today.

Next.

Clockwork Orange
04-30-2006, 05:02 PM
Theodore finally stole one and earned some much needed confidence. The Avs finally managed to finish off an opponent without getting too terribly overextended. Great job by all involved.

Thanks Mulletrose! :laugh:

wabbit
04-30-2006, 05:06 PM
Yes. Tay-o-door was outstanding today he made all the big saves he and the AVS needed. The stars strategy of shooting the puck in at Jose from all over the place kind of backfired today...he was good with the glove thus preventing second and third chances.

I thought the AVS did a great job in the series of not allowing the stars to be as physical as they wanted. I believe they actually out hit them today. They neutralized the star's size and strength advantage by moving the puck, and out skating dallas.

I was glad to see Modano back on the ice after that brutal hit he took from Clark. I'm a Modano fan.

A fine series win for the AVS, and Tay-o-door earned his scratch today.

Next.

What a shocking outcome...the Stars had it all in their favor & lose the series four games to one...although it should be noted that three games went to OT & could've gone either way.

Still...considering the youth & the injuries limiting the Avs through the course of this season...bodes well for the future of this team.

Clockwork Orange
04-30-2006, 05:11 PM
What a shocking outcome...the Stars had it all in their favor & lose the series four games to one...although it should be noted that three games went to OT & could've gone either way.

The Stars weren't quite the same with no shootouts to save them.

Pendejo
04-30-2006, 05:12 PM
Theodore finally stole one and earned some much needed confidence. The Avs finally managed to finish off an opponent without getting too terribly overextended. Great job by all involved.

Thanks Mulletrose! :laugh:

Hah! Melrose definitely deserves a ton of credit.

wabbit
04-30-2006, 05:15 PM
The Stars weren't quite the same with no shootouts to save them.


Yeah, that's true...the Avalanche stunk up the place with those shoot-outs...never could figure out why.

Also, you can't help but notice their 5-on-5 play seems greatly improved from years past.

Al Wilson
04-30-2006, 06:04 PM
Wonder where the gay Flyers fans are

Tredici
04-30-2006, 07:41 PM
Yeah, that's true...the Avalanche stunk up the place with those shoot-outs...never could figure out why.

Also, you can't help but notice their 5-on-5 play seems greatly improved from years past.

That's because they aren't looking to "play pretty". Those grind em out goals picking up trash in front of the net looked pretty darn beautiful today.

Is there a thumb your nose smilie? If so, I'd post it 50 times to Mr. Bettman.

Clockwork Orange
04-30-2006, 07:50 PM
http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/DNA10904302316.jpg

All is forgiven, Bruno. :notworthy

Clockwork Orange
04-30-2006, 08:09 PM
The Canes are now a win away from round 2.

Jori
04-30-2006, 08:15 PM
http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/DNA10904302316.jpg

All is forgiven, Bruno. :notworthy
!Booya!

Jori
04-30-2006, 08:16 PM
The Canes are now a win away from round 2.
Cam Ward :notworthy

Mogulseeker
04-30-2006, 08:19 PM
Wonder where the gay Flyers fans are

**** em

Flyers suck, and they are going to lose in the first round to Buffalo.

Mogulseeker
04-30-2006, 08:24 PM
http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/DNA10904302316.jpg

All is forgiven, Bruno. :notworthy


Looks like they're both wearing the Bauer Vapor XX skates... you'd think they'd update to the Nike Bauer Supreme One-90s....

I've always wondered why those skates have been so popular. I owned a pair of Bauer Supreme 4000s back in Colorado. They were decent, but the Nike's I have now just blow those ones away.

.....

I really like Jim Dowd. I think he really is doing good things for this team. The guy played a very solid game today. Very solid series actually.

Dudeskey
04-30-2006, 08:37 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/ATA/24818BP.jpg

Bronx33
04-30-2006, 08:41 PM
Looks like they're both wearing the Bauer Vapor XX skates... you'd think they'd update to the Nike Bauer Supreme One-90s....

I've always wondered why those skates have been so popular. I owned a pair of Bauer Supreme 4000s back in Colorado. They were decent, but the Nike's I have now just blow those ones away.

.....

I really like Jim Dowd. I think he really is doing good things for this team. The guy played a very solid game today. Very solid series actually.


If they like them then why change.

Bronx33
04-30-2006, 08:42 PM
The Canes are now a win away from round 2.

The barry melrose whammy jam has yet to take hold.

Mogulseeker
04-30-2006, 09:05 PM
While we're on the subject, what is the Jason Allison curve?

Getting a new stick... and I dont know what Allisons curve is, but his stick is a really good deal. I'm used to the Jagr model.... how does it compare?

Bronx33
04-30-2006, 09:13 PM
A slight heel slant with a gentle curve

Mogulseeker
04-30-2006, 09:16 PM
So not too different from the Jagr model.... I've always thought my curve was too inverted anyway.

Mogulseeker
04-30-2006, 09:17 PM
That said, who do you think the Av's will play next round?

hades
04-30-2006, 09:19 PM
Man, you should hear all the crying on the news down here.

Oh, the poor Stars, how could they be so good all season and go out in the first round? Booo fricken hoo.

Jori
04-30-2006, 09:32 PM
That said, who do you think the Av's will play next round?
After San Jose finished off Nashville tonight, it's between them, Detroit and the Ducks.

If Detroit comes back to beat Edmoton, the Avs face the Wings. If Edmonton beats Detroit and Calgary beats Anaheim, the Avs face San Jose. If Edmonton beats Detroit and Anaheim beats Calgary, the Avs face the Ducks.

San Jose scares the crap out of me and I'm not talking about Thornton, Bernier and Cheechoo are beasts. Toskala is another stud out of the San Jose goaltending factory (wanna bet Nabokov is in another uniform next year....hello Tampa Bay!). San Jose's speed is killer. I think the only weakness is that there is some inexperience on their blueline. For the Avs to matchup...Tanguay needs to get his head out of his arse...the Avs need some production from the second line because you know teams will focus on the *new* JAM line (Joe/ Andrew/ Milan).

Best matchup for Colorado....the Ducks. I have a lot of respect for Anaheim, but nothing would be better then sticking it to that POS Dr. Brian Burke.

Worst matchup? Detroit. No need to explain further.

Mogulseeker
04-30-2006, 09:36 PM
Well I think Detroit will lose.

Bronx33
04-30-2006, 09:39 PM
After San Jose finished off Nashville tonight, it's between them, Detroit and the Ducks.

If Detroit comes back to beat Edmoton, the Avs face the Wings. If Edmonton beats Detroit and Calgary beats Anaheim, the Avs face San Jose. If Edmonton beats Detroit and Anaheim beats Calgary, the Avs face the Ducks.

San Jose scares the crap out of me and I'm not talking about Thornton, Bernier and Cheechoo are beasts. Toskala is another stud out of the San Jose goaltending factory (wanna bet Nabokov is in another uniform next year....hello Tampa Bay!). San Jose's speed is killer. I think the only weakness is that there is some inexperience on their blueline. For the Avs to matchup...Tanguay needs to get his head out of his arse...the Avs need some production from the second line because you know teams will focus on the *new* JAM line (Joe/ Andrew/ Milan).




Best matchup for Colorado....the Ducks. I have a lot of respect for Anaheim, but nothing would be better then sticking it to that POS Dr. Brian Burke.

Worst matchup? Detroit. No need to explain further.



Ya watched SJ tonight boy they look solid.

Bronx33
04-30-2006, 09:40 PM
Man, you should hear all the crying on the news down here.

Oh, the poor Stars, how could they be so good all season and go out in the first round? Booo fricken hoo.


Just wait till the wingies go down.

Breck Bronc
04-30-2006, 10:13 PM
I just got home from a great day of watching the Avs win yet another OT game and then enjoying this beautiful Spring weather. Is there anything more exciting in sports than seeing your team win an overtime game in the Stanley Cup Playoffs? I'd say there isn't anything better aside from winning a championship, and we got to witness three OT wins in the last seven days. Awesome, just awesome.

At the start of the regular season I was just hoping to keep our playoff streak alive and maybe win a series. Now that that's been accomplished everything else is gravy. If the Wings lose tomorrow night it will be an even better season, particularly with the Canucks choking so bad to miss the playoffs and Crawford getting the boot (and Bertuzzi being a jinx to Team Canada and Vancouver).

At the trade deadline we had a lot of Avalanche fans throwing in the towel when Lacroix swapped Aebi for Theo and only added Jim Dowd to the forward corps. Well, Dowd was great in this series on the penalty kill and scored an important goal today in the second period to get us on the board and stop Dallas‘s domination up to that point. Theo hasn’t lit the world on fire since coming back from injury but he's been good enough to win. His play since the second period of game 4 has been very encouraging. I'm glad we have him rather than Aebischer; Jose has a much higher ceiling (and salary, regrettably).

I've written a lot of positive things about Brett Clark this year and then he goes out and throws a devastating, clean check on Mike Modano. That sure came out of nowhere from the usually non-physical Clark. He's been a revelation all year and almost scored another short hander with 6 minutes to go in the third period. All this production for Frederick Cassivi.

Tanguay's been rightly criticized for his play all series, but I thought Ian Laperriere was just as bad. Lappy was an awesome addition for us in the regular season so I'm sure he can turn it around, just like Tangs can. What I find odd is that Lappy has not spent even one second killing penalties this series after being one of our two best PK guys all year along with Antii Laaksonen. Milan Hejduk and Brad Richardson are getting his minutes on the penalty kill. I really have no answer for why that is.

Finally, I have to give credit to chadta for calling me out on my playoff picks. He was right that I'm a homer; I picked the Avs to win in 6 and they obviously won in 5. I admit I was wrong, chadta.

Bronx33
04-30-2006, 10:16 PM
I just got home from a great day of watching the Avs win yet another OT game and then enjoying this beautiful Spring weather. Is there anything more exciting in sports than seeing your team win an overtime game in the Stanley Cup Playoffs? I'd say there isn't anything better aside from winning a championship, and we got to witness three OT wins in the last seven days. Awesome, just awesome.

At the start of the regular season I was just hoping to keep our playoff streak alive and maybe win a series. Now that that's been accomplished everything else is gravy. If the Wings lose tomorrow night it will be an even better season, particularly with the Canucks choking so bad to miss the playoffs and Crawford getting the boot (and Bertuzzi being a jinx to Team Canada and Vancouver).

At the trade deadline we had a lot of Avalanche fans throwing in the towel when Lacroix swapped Aebi for Theo and only added Jim Dowd to the forward corps. Well, Dowd was great in this series on the penalty kill and scored an important goal today in the second period to get us on the board and stop Dallas‘s domination up to that point. Theo hasn’t lit the world on fire since coming back from injury but he's been good enough to win. His play since the second period of game 4 has been very encouraging. I'm glad we have him rather than Aebischer; Jose has a much higher ceiling (and salary, regrettably).

I've written a lot of positive things about Brett Clark this year and then he goes out and throws a devastating, clean check on Mike Modano. That sure came out of nowhere from the usually non-physical Clark. He's been a revelation all year and almost scored another short hander with 6 minutes to go in the third period. All this production for Frederick Cassivi.

Tanguay's been rightly criticized for his play all series, but I thought Ian Laperriere was just as bad. Lappy was an awesome addition for us in the regular season so I'm sure he can turn it around, just like Tangs can. What I find odd is that Lappy has not spent even one second killing penalties this series after being one of our two best PK guys all year along with Antii Laaksonen. Milan Hejduk and Brad Richardson are getting his minutes on the penalty kill. I really have no answer for why that is.

Finally, I have to give credit to chadta for calling me out on my playoff picks. He was right that I'm a homer; I picked the Avs to win in 6 and they obviously won in 5. I admit I was wrong, chadta.


I was amazed Modano came back, he thought he was batman there for awhile, as far a clark is concerned he has filled in amazingly and is playing 30 mins a game so i guess you can say Q is happy with his play. The mighty jim dowd what else can one say about the guy and again PL comes out smelling like a rose with another killer FA pick up.

Clockwork Orange
05-01-2006, 01:21 AM
Oh, the poor Stars, how could they be so good all season and go out in the first round?

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/DNA10504302220.jpg

Jori
05-01-2006, 04:35 AM
I have to think Lappy is hurt...it doesn't make sense why he isn't killing penalties.

hades
05-01-2006, 10:10 AM
Oh man, the papers, news, everyone is dogging the Stars, it's great! Got this from the Dallas Morning News, I was LMAO when I read it, Peyton Syndrome!


FIVE DECISIONS
Here are issues the Stars will have to address after their first-round playoff exit:

Dave Tippett: He's won all three seasons but has delivered just one playoff series win. He got an endorsement from captain Mike Modano and has a contract that runs through 2008.

Marty Turco: He's developing Peyton Manning Syndrome as a great regular-season performer who underachieves in the playoffs. He's signed for four years on a hefty contract, but several teams with goaltending problems might be interested.

Bronx33
05-01-2006, 10:32 AM
Oh man, the papers, news, everyone is dogging the Stars, it's great! Got this from the Dallas Morning News, I was LMAO when I read it, Peyton Syndrome!


FIVE DECISIONS
Here are issues the Stars will have to address after their first-round playoff exit:

Dave Tippett: He's won all three seasons but has delivered just one playoff series win. He got an endorsement from captain Mike Modano and has a contract that runs through 2008.

Marty Turco: He's developing Peyton Manning Syndrome as a great regular-season performer who underachieves in the playoffs. He's signed for four years on a hefty contract, but several teams with goaltending problems might be interested.


I find it funny the press doesn't call out the defense but only turco or jason arnott whom had zero points in this series or the offense not being able to score in OT.

anthonypacino
05-01-2006, 10:45 AM
I find it funny the press doesn't call out the defense but only turco or jason arnott whom had zero points in this series or the offense not being able to score in OT.
I am in Charlotte right now and watched the last two games at a sports bar, I haven't seen one Hurricane fan since I've been here.
Back to the point, you are right Turco didn't play like Brouder but it was a weak effort all around, I really missed spitting beer everytime they focused on a shot of the Stars bench this year since Captain Kangaroo is gone.
GO AVALANCHE!!

hades
05-01-2006, 10:45 AM
I find it funny the press doesn't call out the defense but only turco or jason arnott whom had zero points in this series or the offense not being able to score in OT.


It's Turco's fault the offense didn't score, he needs to keep the puck outa his net so they have more chances! LOL

Rascal
05-01-2006, 10:54 AM
Where is philly?

Bronx33
05-01-2006, 10:58 AM
Hopefully folks are noticing possession hockey, pretty passes and fancy play is not winning games, heart and hard work win games being outshot and outplayed means nothing, what's on the scoreboard is what counts meat and potato plays crashing the net and chip in the garbage..

Go avs!

Tredici
05-01-2006, 11:38 AM
I find it funny the press doesn't call out the defense but only turco or jason arnott whom had zero points in this series or the offense not being able to score in OT.

What happened to the media's trumpeting of ZUBOV! ZUBOV! ZUBOV!!!

Seems to have been slightly overshadowed by that blake blake blake.

It's good to get past one series. Especially since no one gave the Avs a shot. (Little pun there, Ha.)

Bronx33
05-01-2006, 11:52 AM
What happened to the media's trumpeting of ZUBOV! ZUBOV! ZUBOV!!!

Seems to have been slightly overshadowed by that blake blake blake.

It's good to get past one series. Especially since no one gave the Avs a shot. (Little pun there, Ha.)


I really didn't want to sweep (too much rest could be a bad thing) but i do want the other teams to beat the crap out of eachother before we have to play them.

bronco militia
05-01-2006, 11:54 AM
What happened to the media's trumpeting of ZUBOV! ZUBOV! ZUBOV!!!



the two talking heads in the booth yesterday were homerific...they were almost as sickening to listen too as reading a orange 4 life post about Jake Plummer

Ha!

Pezman
05-01-2006, 12:14 PM
What happened to the media's trumpeting of ZUBOV! ZUBOV! ZUBOV!!!

Seems to have been slightly overshadowed by that blake blake blake.

It's good to get past one series. Especially since no one gave the Avs a shot. (Little pun there, Ha.)

Tred, even as much as I've dogged Blake for his mediocre regular season, I have to give props to him for coming alive and playing his best hockey of the year during the Dallas series. He showed flashes of why he can be such a fantastic defensemen and I hope it carries to the second round.

I still am hoping for a Ducks miracle so that we dont have to face San Jose. I'm sooo not wanting to face San Jose in that second round. Then again, I still think Detroit is probably going to find a way to push their series to 7 games and make this speculation fodder.

Tredici
05-01-2006, 12:15 PM
I really didn't want to sweep (too much rest could be a bad thing) but i do want the other teams to beat the crap out of eachother before we have to play them.

Besides, it gave the Avs a chance to win THREE times on THEIR ice.

Man, that has to be brutal.

bombay
05-01-2006, 12:34 PM
Hopefully folks are noticing possession hockey, pretty passes and fancy play is not winning games, heart and hard work win games being outshot and outplayed means nothing, what's on the scoreboard is what counts meat and potato plays crashing the net and chip in the garbage..

Go avs!

Yes indeed. This group has more heart than the all star team we had in '04.

Bronx33
05-01-2006, 01:41 PM
Besides, it gave the Avs a chance to win THREE times on THEIR ice.

Man, that has to be brutal.

Flashbacks to the wild series.

Tredici
05-01-2006, 01:46 PM
Flashbacks to the wild series.

Right down to the Brunette goal!

defenseman
05-01-2006, 01:47 PM
Go Oilers, Go Anaheim......dman

Bronx33
05-01-2006, 01:47 PM
Right down to the Brunette goal!


I was there.

Tredici
05-01-2006, 01:50 PM
Tred, even as much as I've dogged Blake for his mediocre regular season, I have to give props to him for coming alive and playing his best hockey of the year during the Dallas series. He showed flashes of why he can be such a fantastic defensemen and I hope it carries to the second round.

I still am hoping for a Ducks miracle so that we dont have to face San Jose. I'm sooo not wanting to face San Jose in that second round. Then again, I still think Detroit is probably going to find a way to push their series to 7 games and make this speculation fodder.

Blakie really picked it up after the All Star break and the Olympics. He had a few games in there where he was just dominate.

Guys like Srastins have been such solid performers. I hope he gets a payday out of that cap increase the NHL is going dole out.

I'm not going to analyze the future matchups. In order to get to the prize you have to stand 'em up and knock 'em down. That's why I love hockey playoffs. Whoever is left standing totally earns it.

Mtbrncofn
05-01-2006, 02:25 PM
After San Jose finished off Nashville tonight, it's between them, Detroit and the Ducks.

If Detroit comes back to beat Edmoton, the Avs face the Wings. If Edmonton beats Detroit and Calgary beats Anaheim, the Avs face San Jose. If Edmonton beats Detroit and Anaheim beats Calgary, the Avs face the Ducks.

San Jose scares the crap out of me and I'm not talking about Thornton, Bernier and Cheechoo are beasts. Toskala is another stud out of the San Jose goaltending factory (wanna bet Nabokov is in another uniform next year....hello Tampa Bay!). San Jose's speed is killer. I think the only weakness is that there is some inexperience on their blueline. For the Avs to matchup...Tanguay needs to get his head out of his arse...the Avs need some production from the second line because you know teams will focus on the *new* JAM line (Joe/ Andrew/ Milan).

Best matchup for Colorado....the Ducks. I have a lot of respect for Anaheim, but nothing would be better then sticking it to that POS Dr. Brian Burke.

Worst matchup? Detroit. No need to explain further.

I agree, I'd like the Ducks too. I still have nightmares concerning the last series we played against the Sharks. I want no part of that.

Gotta get my kudos in for Jose as well.....he was freakin awesome out there to put it mildly. My 9 year old daughter is taking after her mom when it comes to hockey. :thumbs: She was almost as excited as I was when they won.

Oh, and I must also add...that Jim Dowd signing is looking better and better every game. I had to retrain myself to say the MIGHTY Jim Dowd instead of referring to him as Jim Dud.

Mtbrncofn
05-01-2006, 02:33 PM
Hmmm, just imagine if the Habs were to lose.....I'd love to read the Habs fans rantings after that. And they couldn't even pin it on Aebi.

It honestly boggles the mind to think that not everyone is a hockey fan. ;D The SC playoffs are the best, bar none.

Pezman
05-01-2006, 08:50 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! What an unbelievable finish to that Oilers vs Red Wings game. One of the more riveting and stunning finishes I've ever seen! Hemsky with the fantastic finsher and the Oilers move on.

Simply shocking folks...

Kid A
05-01-2006, 08:51 PM
All together now...buh bye Dead Things! Thank you oilers! !Booya! ^5 :egbgb:

TDforTD
05-01-2006, 08:51 PM
Definitely. The Oilers fought back. Great series.

Bronx33
05-01-2006, 08:52 PM
what a game!

Clockwork Orange
05-01-2006, 08:53 PM
4 goals in the 3rd period by the Oilers to send the Wings home for the summer. Unbelievable.

If Calgary wins tonight, it's Calgary vs Edmonton in the Battle of Alberta and the Avs vs Sharks. I'm hoping that, at the very least, Anaheim can push this series to a 7th game.

Hogan11
05-01-2006, 08:55 PM
It's just odd having the Wings exit this early....weird.

TDforTD
05-01-2006, 08:56 PM
It just shows how tough the Northwest division is. 3 out of the 4 teams could all possibly be from there.

Clockwork Orange
05-01-2006, 08:58 PM
The #1 & #2 seeds in the Western Conference are both headed for the golf course.

The playoffs are a strange animal.

Pezman
05-01-2006, 08:59 PM
The #1 & #2 seeds in the Western Conference are both headed for the golf course.

The playoffs are a strange animal.
Lets see if we cant get that #3 seed Calgary out (Go ducks!) and join them, along with that #4 seed Nashville! I want an all underdog second round in the West

Bronx33
05-01-2006, 09:02 PM
It's just odd having the Wings exit this early....weird.

Not built for the playoffs defensively.

Clockwork Orange
05-01-2006, 09:05 PM
Lets see if we cant get that #3 seed Calgary out (Go ducks!) and join them, along with that #4 seed Nashville! I want an all underdog second round in the West

No kidding. Go Ducks!!

Bronco X
05-01-2006, 09:06 PM
Oh, man, it is SO sweet to see the Dead Things finished and the Avs still alive.

Pezman
05-01-2006, 09:07 PM
It's just odd having the Wings exit this early....weird.
Heh, ya, considering it only just happened in 2003 against Anaheim and 2001 against the Kings

;)

SouthStndJunkie
05-01-2006, 09:08 PM
It's just odd having the Wings exit this early....weird.

Actually, I think the Wings have choked in the first round 3 out of the last 5 years.

Bronx33
05-01-2006, 09:11 PM
http://cdn.compuserve.com/fotosrch/5/20060501_57369148JV005_Red_Wings_Oil_GTY.jpg

Save of the game if you ask me

Clockwork Orange
05-01-2006, 09:15 PM
I love Jarome Iginla, but what the hell was he thinking? You're trying to put a team away and you get into a fight and take yourself off the ice for 5 minutes? Not smart.