Broncos tried moving up in draft.

[Requiem]

Broncos | Team rebuffed trying to move up in the NFL Draft
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:40:01 -0700

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports an unnamed team was the third team to turn down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for their first-round pick in the NFL Draft. The team was draft somewhere in the top five of the draft, other than No. 3 or No. 5.


Titans | Team says no to NFL Draft trade
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:35:43 -0700

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Tennessee Titans turned down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for the Titans' selection at No. 3 in the NFL Draft.


Packers | Team says no to NFL Draft trade
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:26:15 -0700

WBAY, citing the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Green Bay Packers turned down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for the Packers' selection at No. 5 in the NFL Draft.

[Gfunk]

hmm, interesting...

[NaptownChief]

Sounds like you guys were probably trying to get you a QB....

[Garcia Bronco]

Awesome........we tried. Deep draft my ass.

[bronco militia]

jeff legwold basically reported the same thing Wednesday on am950 the fan with irv and joe and then appeared in thursdays column...

[bronco militia]

Awesome........we tried. Deep draft my ass.


appearently it's a deep draft for everyone except the Broncos

[freak6]

What it shows is that the draft is top heavy, and then levels out significantly through picks 20-60.

At least we all know we tried, that is significant. We can't trade future 1st rounders because they are worthless since we are gonna be good every year.

We gotta hope for some gems in the 2nd and 3rd. It will still be alot of fun, unless VY falls to the raiders...

[broncosteven]

If they wanted a high pick that bad why not throw in next years 2 or 3rd rounder?

[Phantom]

I guess you gotta suck to get a top 5 draft pick.
That ain't happening any time soon.

[Requiem]

Awesome........we tried. Deep draft my ass.

It is a deep draft. Just because we tried moving up doesn't mean it isn't a deep draft.

[Requiem]

I do find it funny we even contacted the Titans. #3 for #15 and #22 would have been nice, but no way in hell. As I've stated for a long time, #15 and #22 can get you in the picks from Top 4-6 selections, but no team was going to want to do that, especially teams who suck so bad and could use a franchise prospect.

[BizzyBone7]

i would like to know who exactly they were targeting. my guess would be Mario or VD? i dont think we'd move up for a QB personally.

[watermock]

http://mysite.verizon.net/res7qlfl/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/kirk_screaming.jpg.w110h76.jpg

We were trying to catch VD.

[ro_50]

Wow, I could only dream how Mario Williams or Vernon Davis would look in a Bronco Uni.

[NaptownChief]

i would like to know who exactly they were targeting. my guess would be Mario or VD? i dont think we'd move up for a QB personally.

My guess would be a QB if they tried to get the #3 spot. Knowing Texans and Saints don't appear to be looking for a QB with Carr and Brees would make the #3 spot secure for the QB of choice. Anything other than a QB I think you would have risk of it being snatched ahead of you by the Saints. Anything is possible but my guess would be QB and likely Lienart.

[Old Dude]

... Anything is possible but my guess would be QB and likely Lienart.

Or, the way they've been ping-ponging around, they could have tried to trade down again from that spot to pick up VD plus a second or third rounder.

As you say, anything is possible.

[bronco militia]

the only player in the top 3 the broncos were ever linked to was Vince Young

[watermock]

If we talked to all the top teams the targets were Mario or VD, not a QB. We tried and I'm pretty bummed about missing. It's not worth selling the farm.

[watermock]

the only player in the top 3 the broncos were ever linked to was Vince Young

Really. Give me one link.

[Drek]

Davis or Williams, no question. It is a deep draft, but the top 8 or so prospects are phenominal athletes and the rest of the talent pool drops off after them. The draft then goes through a series of plateaus followed by small drops from picks 10-75 or so. We're in position to grab a lot of talented guys, but I think Shanahan had his heart set on Vernon Davis as a gamebreaking TE.

Hopefully the draft will get shaken up and it'll work out for us, but I doubt it. We basically need Green Bay to trade #5 to us, which won't happen unless Williams and AJ Hawk both go off the board. Basically we need some kind of shakeup that makes Hawk go in the top 4, before Leinart or Ferguson. I think the Packers are man crushing on Hawk, if he goes they'll be much more open to moving.

Funny, there was a rumor going around here (New England) that made the Dan Patrick show saying that the Pats want to move up too, allegedly they're real big on Hawk as well. You'd think another team wanting to get in the top 5 would hurt us, but if they want Hawk it'll only help, as they'll be stealing him from the Pack, making them more willing to deal, exposing Vernon Davis to us.

Not real likely that any of it happens though, unfortunately.

[Requiem]

the only player in the top 3 the broncos were ever linked to was Vince Young

What link? The remark Shanahan made about getting him? :rofl:

You never heard much about high prospects going to Denver because for the longest time, they held the #22 and #29 picks in the NFL Draft. Even with #15 and #22, it was highly unlikely they'd be able to move up, because as I've stated numerous times -- where the value looks good on paper, what teams are going to want to drop out of the range of elite players?

Wrong again, Militia.

[watermock]

What remark?

[ludo21]

Im glad we tried. And im glad after realizing it wasnt going to happen, the team moved back and gained more picks because we can get the same value at 37.

This is a deep draft, just because we wanted to move up doesn mean its not.

[Requiem]

Oh, there was a tid-bit in the Post when Shanahan spoke for the first time that Shanahan said something. "In fact, we're going to get Vince Young." -- I'm assuming it was a joke, but I'm sure he likes the kid.

[watermock]

http://insidedenver.com/drmn/columnist/0,1299,DRMN_83_130,00.html

Krieger, try again.

[Requiem]

On whether the team would try to trade up if it sees the player it wants: "Without a question. With 15 and 22, you definitely have a chance to get in the top 10 if that guy is there. In fact, we're going to get Vince Young (laughs)."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4578948,00.html

[halfcreek]

That they tried and failed does not preclude a draft day move.

[NaptownChief]

It also could mean they had two guys outside of Reggie Bush that they were equally excited about and was willing to sit at #3 and let one of them come to them...Could have been VD and Williams but my guess would still say QB was the likely reason with Leinart.

[bronco militia]

Really. Give me one link.

Shanahan did not mention running back, receiving tight end or wide receiver. Then there's the possibility of packaging the 15th and 22nd picks and moving up to, say, the sixth pick. The Broncos are not expected to make such a deal for a variety of reasons, but Shana- han didn't rule it out.

"Oh, no," he said. "In fact, we're going to get Vince Young."

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3649130

[bronco militia]

What link? The remark Shanahan made about getting him? :rofl:



Wrong again, Militia.

I don't beleive it either, but that's what he said....

and what was it I was wrong about?

[Requiem]

"The interest."

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

On whether the team would try to trade up if it sees the player it wants: "Without a question. With 15 and 22, you definitely have a chance to get in the top 10 if that guy is there. In fact, we're going to get Vince Young (laughs)."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4578948,00.html


They showed that clip on the news here and Shanahan was laughing when he made the remark. Obviously joking around.

[bronco militia]

"The interest."

how do you know? link please:wave:

[Jesterhole]

I'm glad. Top ten picks cost too much, and maybe half of them will pan out. I'm much rather have two players than one.

[Drek]

It also could mean they had two guys outside of Reggie Bush that they were equally excited about and was willing to sit at #3 and let one of them come to them...Could have been VD and Williams but my guess would still say QB was the likely reason with Leinart. Then why were we talking with Green Bay and San Fran about 5 and 6? Leinart definately won't be there, and its real possible Vince Young won't be either.

Vernon Davis and Mario Williams, primarily Davis but the FO saw it as worth the risks of moving up now pre-draft because if Davis is stolen earlier we probably get Williams. No one was interested though, since the entire top 6 have very good fits for their team that will fall to them.

Like I said earlier, Hawk going before Green Bay's pick is our only way up. We'd probably need Mario to go too, but maybe not.

[Taco John]

Sounds like you guys were probably trying to get you a QB....


Especially in a move up that high...

[Old Dude]

Anyone ever notice that no matter how high a team is ranked in the draft, it's alway lusting after some guy who is projected to go just a little sooner?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

jeff legwold basically reported the same thing Wednesday on am950 the fan with irv and joe and then appeared in thursdays column...

It was in the Rocky, apparently only a select few people here read that paper.

[freak6]

Anyone ever notice that no matter how high a team is ranked in the draft, it's alway lusting after some guy who is projected to go just a little sooner?

yeah, and the teams that are really high are griping about paying so much for a certain player. I almost feel bad for the Packers. If they go with Hawk they get a solid LB, but c'mon, he's a LB. All the supertalents are just ahead of them, and they don't want to take VD at that spot I assume. I think they should take VY if he is there, let Favre go, and restart all over around VY.

[GonzoLays]

Is it a shock to anyone that a team with a top 5 pick was unwilling to move down to 15 and 22? After the top 12 prospects everybody is drafting second round talent. Thats why Atlanta was willing to part with the 15 pick in this draft basically nothing. Thats why we moved out of the 22nd pick to get a second and third round draft pick.

The draft might be deep with second round and third round talent but the first round is a joke after the top 12 prospects.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

It was in the Rocky, apparently only a select few people here read that paper.

NPR usually posts all of their articles every day.

[BroncoInferno]

Awesome........we tried. Deep draft my ass.

Is it a shock to anyone that a team with a top 5 pick was unwilling to move down to 15 and 22? After the top 12 prospects everybody is drafting second round talent. Thats why Atlanta was willing to part with the 15 pick in this draft basically nothing. Thats why we moved out of the 22nd pick to get a second and third round draft pick.

The draft might be deep with second round and third round talent but the first round is a joke after the top 12 prospects.

Well, it isn't deep in terms of unquestioned blue chippers, but the 2nd and 3rd tier of players are unusually deep, hence the trade down. There probably won't be a lot of difference between the guy we get @ 22 and who we can get @ 37, plus we get to pick an extra player at the top of round 3. There are going to be guys available in the 3rd who in other drafts would probably grade as early-2nd/late-1st players because of the 2nd and 3rd tier depth.

[Garcia Bronco]

It is a deep draft. Just because we tried moving up doesn't mean it isn't a deep draft.


It's not deep in the sense that we tried to move up and then backed out of the first round....while the 9er's, Titans, Raiders, Browns get to ruin talent.It's a farce.

[GonzoLays]

It's not deep in the sense that we tried to move up and then backed out of the first round....while the 9er's, Titans, Raiders, Browns get to ruin talent.It's a farce.

SoCalBronco would have you to believe that there are 45 guys with first round talent in this draft. What a joke.

[Garcia Bronco]

We should trade away the 15th pick then..

[Mediator12]

Is it a shock to anyone that a team with a top 5 pick was unwilling to move down to 15 and 22? After the top 12 prospects everybody is drafting second round talent. Thats why Atlanta was willing to part with the 15 pick in this draft basically nothing. Thats why we moved out of the 22nd pick to get a second and third round draft pick.

The draft might be deep with second round and third round talent but the first round is a joke after the top 12 prospects.

This is just rediculous ;D You are acting like there are not three tiers in every round of the draft including the first.

This draft is "deep" in starting caliber players that are not superstars. It has five sure fire guys at the top, and then ten more almost can not miss players, then 20 more that would go in the first round in other years. After that their are 40 or so players that grade out as NFL starters for about 75+ guys that will be around and contributing to the team that drafted them in three years. Usually that number is around 50 or so. The overall grades this year are much higher with a ton of junior entries with first day talent.

[Mediator12]

SoCalBronco would have you to believe that there are 45 guys with first round talent in this draft. What a joke.

It went from 37 to 45 overnight Gonzo :rofl:

[Rascal]

Hey Med would you create a thread for that link I gave you.

[Mediator12]

Hey Med would you create a thread for that link I gave you.

Absolutely. I was just checking to make sure it was not the same as another thread. The second link you gave me is already on the board in the thread titled "good read from Kirwan" by big guy yesterday.

[Rascal]

Cool.

Yeah I saw that after I sent you the PM.

Damn Big Guy stealing my thunder. LOL

[Mediator12]

Cool.

Yeah I saw that after I sent you the PM.

Damn Big Guy stealing my thunder. LOL

I always read Kirwans stuff and post the most relevant Broncos articles too. Big guy got me on that one too!

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Sorry to steal your thunder guys. Might want to repost it on the main board as I thought it was one of the best I have seen in this season of insanity. :)

[Lestat]

the draft is deep but there are some players you just won't get at #15

Bunkley,Hawk,Bush,Williams,Young,Leinart,Davis,Huf f

that why teams didn't want to trade down

[GonzoLays]

It went from 37 to 45 overnight Gonzo :rofl:



There are like 40-45 guys with first round talent in this draft.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=39877&page=2

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[GonzoLays]

It is a deep draft. Just because we tried moving up doesn't mean it isn't a deep draft.

You must be drinking the dumb kool-aid as well.