Favre needs to shut up

[cutthemdown]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2415604

Regardless of if he is right or not about the Mcnair situation why does he feel the need to speak on other players and teams bussiness. Titans owe Mcniar nothing. He didn't win a superbowl and has gotten paid for the time he was there. Titans are well within their rights to protect themselves from that huge contract number he has this year. Also no way Titans should feel a resposibilty to cut him right now and let him go to ravens. They have every right to hold onto him until the bitter end. It may not be smart because other players will remember Titans did that, but for sure it is no business of Favres.
I'm sick of this guy and hope he just goes away soon and minds his own business.

[Crushaholic]

Favre doesn't need to necessarily shut up. He just needs to utter the words "I'm retiring from football"...

[Pendejo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2415604

Regardless of if he is right or not about the Mcnair situation why does he feel the need to speak on other players and teams bussiness. Titans owe Mcniar nothing. He didn't win a superbowl and has gotten paid for the time he was there. Titans are well within their rights to protect themselves from that huge contract number he has this year. Also no way Titans should feel a resposibilty to cut him right now and let him go to ravens. They have every right to hold onto him until the bitter end. It may not be smart because other players will remember Titans did that, but for sure it is no business of Favres.
I'm sick of this guy and hope he just goes away soon and minds his own business.

Yeah I hate it when guys who have proven themselves on the football field have an opinion about something, and actually express their feelings, or simply answer a question they're asked matter of factly. Somebody keel-haul that dick. Leave opining to 'mane's legions.

[Kaylore]

I agree that Favre needs to mind his own business, but I disagree that the Titans have "the right" to keep McNair from doing his job.

[Atlas]

Farve needs to retire and take that studio job or go back to Mississippi and raise turkeys or pigs or something.

[Phantom]

Which is it - Best for the team, or Best for the player, Brett?

You keep flip-flopping.

[rbackfactory80]

Yeah I hate it when guys who have proven themselves on the football field have an opinion about something, and actually express their feelings, or simply answer a question they're asked matter of factly. Somebody keel-haul that dick. Leave opining to 'mane's legions.

Well said.

[RhymesayersDU]

Yeah I hate it when guys who have proven themselves on the football field have an opinion about something, and actually express their feelings, or simply answer a question they're asked matter of factly. Somebody keel-haul that dick. Leave opining to 'mane's legions.
Quoted For Truth.

Favre was asked a question, and he answered it honestly. Why crucify him for that?

End Thread.

[Lestat]

Favre has no business speaking about other players on other teams

especially when he hasn't made up his own mind

but to say the Titans don't owe McNair something is BS
how many times has he played through injuries most player would sit out 3 weeks or more for? how many times has he gutted out a perfomance whether they won it or not, he took that team on his back too many times to count, he was the heart & soul of that franchise & he even stayed through the rebuilding & gutting & then for them just to kick him out like they did is complete BS

[Phantom]

I understand now ...

When its Qbs - do what's best for the player, not the team - like Brett holding the entire francise hostage and McNair getting dumped (sorry but Volek has BEEN the better Qb recently).

When its WRs - like J Walker wanting to paid, before he gets injured and feeling he was worth more than $400,000 for the next couple years - then it's all about the TEAM.

[Ballhawk]

I understand now ...


When its WRs - like J Walker wanting to paid, before he gets injured and feeling he was worth more than $400,000 for the next couple years - then it's all about the TEAM.


No that was about Farve also.

[Pendejo]

Favre has just as much right to say that he doesn't think the Titans are treating McNair unfairly...as any of you who think they're simply doing what's best for the team.

There is nothing wrong with a professional football player answering a question honestly. That's all he did.

[Bronx33]

The scoal poster child just needs to retire.

[-Slap-]

Favre has just as much right to say that he doesn't think the Titans are treating McNair unfairly...as any of you who think they're simply doing what's best for the team.

There is nothing wrong with a professional football player answering a question honestly. That's all he did.
Maybe he thought this was America.

[Rock Chalk]

Favre has no business speaking about other players on other teams

especially when he hasn't made up his own mind


Umm, you are probably right, but then he wasn't just throwing it out there. Someone asked him a question and by virtue of his personality, he answered it with candor.

Whether or not he has business speaking about it is irrelevant. He was asked a direct question, gave a direct answer.

Would you rather he skirt around questions like Drew Rosenhaus "No Comment"?

Or would you rather have message board fodder?

**** the Titans for what they are doing to McNair and good for Brett for recognizing ****ty deals and calling someone on it.

[Hogan11]

Favre has just as much right to say that he doesn't think the Titans are treating McNair unfairly...as any of you who think they're simply doing what's best for the team.

There is nothing wrong with a professional football player answering a question honestly. That's all he did.

Agreed....100%

The real problem here is not Brett Farve shooting off his mouth, it's that there are people who actually pay attention to his opinions.

[ro_50]

I dont have a problem w/ what he said but he does need to retire. I'm getting tired of all of this media butt-kissing of Brett Favre.

[Victor]

I think that he should mind his own business, like I'm doing...oh.

[2KBack]

yeah, my problem with this isn't what Farve said. I personally am relieved when people answer questions directly (see the Warren argument from a couple weeks ago). I do have a problem with people getting so up in arms about what Brett Farve says these days. Who cares. Why does anyone giv e a rats ass about what this guys says unless it's "I'm staying," or, "I'm going."

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

He just needs to understand that anything he says at this point will be blown completely out of proportion - if he even cares.

[GonzoLays]

Looks like the attention whore is back at it. Couldn't stand being out of the media's offseason limelight. What happened Brett, Barbara Walters wouldn't do a story on you being addicted to pain killers again?

Brett must have thought, "Hmmmm, what can I do to get people to talk about me and suck my balls for a little while longer? Should I come out and tell people I'm a drunk? Naaaa, already did that. Should I talk about my teammates contracts and tell the reporters I hope he doesn't get a raise? Damn, already did that too. I got it, I'll talk about retiring. Oh shiit, I've been doing that for the past five offseasons. I'm running out options here."

[rbackfactory80]

Looks like the attention whore is back at it. Couldn't stand being out of the media's offseason limelight. What happened Brett, Barbara Walters wouldn't do a story on you being addicted to pain killers again?

Brett must have thought, "Hmmmm, what can I do to get people to talk about me and suck my balls for a little while longer? Should I come out and tell people I'm a drunk? Naaaa, already did that. Should I talk about my teammates contracts and tell the reporters I hope he doesn't get a raise? Damn, already did that too. I got it, I'll talk about retiring. Oh shiit, I've been doing that for the past five offseasons. I'm running out options here."

Why does this post seem ironic?

[Popps]

I think the problem people have with what Favre is doing is that he's breaking some unwritten player rules. Before anyone gets worked up, I'm not saying he's wrong... just presenting a side.

Imagine if you went to your boss for a raise... and your boss said no. What if you KNEW you deserved it, you worked hard, etc. (Put aside the contract thing for a minute because we all know NFL contracts are re-negotiated regularly.) So, your boss says no... and you decide to start looking elsewhere. Well, before you know it, some loud-mouth from your office has begun to spread the word to other companies that you're a bad employee because of this. Even worse, it's a loudmouth who has some clout in your industry. He's out there polluting the waters for you... and it's a situation that doesn't even involve his contract.

Not only might that make some people mad, but it might make others within your industry angry. Player negotiations have long been seen as private matters with regards to the other players. Calling out your own teammates (as LEGITIMATE as it may seem) just isn't necessarily good practice.

That said, I've already stated that I agree with what Favre said. I'm just also capable of understanding why a lot of other people might feel like he was in the wrong to say it. It's not about law, just about etiquette within a particular industry.

You find out your friend's wife is cheating on him. Is it illegal to tell everyone in the neighborhood? No. Is it necessarily the right thing to do? Not necessarily.

Opinion, morality, etiquette and law aren't always interlocked.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Favre is going down in flames... outstanding!

[Pendejo]

I think the problem people have with what Favre is doing is that he's breaking some unwritten player rules. Before anyone gets worked up, I'm not saying he's wrong... just presenting a side.

Imagine if you went to your boss for a raise... and your boss said no. What if you KNEW you deserved it, you worked hard, etc. (Put aside the contract thing for a minute because we all know NFL contracts are re-negotiated regularly.) So, your boss says no... and you decide to start looking elsewhere. Well, before you know it, some loud-mouth from your office has begun to spread the word to other companies that you're a bad employee because of this. Even worse, it's a loudmouth who has some clout in your industry. He's out there polluting the waters for you... and it's a situation that doesn't even involve his contract.

Not only might that make some people mad, but it might make others within your industry angry. Player negotiations have long been seen as private matters with regards to the other players. Calling out your own teammates (as LEGITIMATE as it may seem) just isn't necessarily good practice.

That said, I've already stated that I agree with what Favre said. I'm just also capable of understanding why a lot of other people might feel like he was in the wrong to say it. It's not about law, just about etiquette within a particular industry.

You find out your friend's wife is cheating on him. Is it illegal to tell everyone in the neighborhood? No. Is it necessarily the right thing to do? Not necessarily.

Opinion, morality, etiquette and law aren't always interlocked.

The thing is...the employee was just going to work (it's completely different than your scenario)...after a decade of giving everything he had to the corporation. Then one day when he's showing up to work the company slams the door on his face, and tells him not to come back until he's willing to take a paycut.

So an employee of another corporation in the same industry, and of similar standing as the aforementioned is asked what he thinks about the treatment of his contemporary. He responds that he thinks it's pretty classless considering everything said employee has done over the years. It's as simple as that.

People should have started John Elway should shut up threads when he answered a question about Terrell Owens possibly going to the Denver Broncos. It's none of his business. He's not Owen's agent, nor is he a member of the Denver Broncos organization. He should mind his own business when it comes to possible personnel moves for the team.

[Popps]

The thing is...the employee was just going to work (it's completely different than your scenario)...after a decade of giving everything he had to the corporation. Then one day when he's showing up to work the company slams the door on his face, and tells him not to come back until he's willing to take a paycut.

So an employee of another corporation in the same industry, and of similar standing as the aforementioned is asked what he thinks about the treatment of his contemporary. He responds that he thinks it's pretty classless considering everything said employee has done over the years. It's as simple as that.

People should have started John Elway should shut up threads when he answered a question about Terrell Owens possibly going to the Denver Broncos. It's none of his business. He's not Owen's agent, nor is he a member of the Denver Broncos organization. He should mind his own business when it comes to possible personnel moves for the team.

Well, I was more talking about the J. Walker situation, I suppose. So, I see where you're coming from, but again... it's not necessarily about what's "legal" or what we as fans would like to hear. Sometimes things are just done a certain way in a certain industry. There's a reason that most players don't step into other people's/team's business. In the long run, it's just not wise for them to do it. Is it ILLEGAL, no. Is it morally wrong? No.

Again, I'm not saying Favre was a bad human for stepping into someone's business, I'm just offering another side. I certainly wouldn't want co-workers out there commenting on my negotiations with my clients without my consent. I can't imagine anyone would. Those are private matters in the sense of inter-personnel business terms. (Obviously the contracts are public)

As for Elway, he's out of football. He's a commentator, to a degree.

...and again, I agree with Favre's words, I'm just not surprised that those in his industry might frown upon him trying to stick his nose where it might not belong, even though there is obviously no law against that.

[GonzoLays]

The thing is...the employee was just going to work (it's completely different than your scenario)...after a decade of giving everything he had to the corporation. Then one day when he's showing up to work the company slams the door on his face, and tells him not to come back until he's willing to take a paycut.

So an employee of another corporation in the same industry, and of similar standing as the aforementioned is asked what he thinks about the treatment of his contemporary. He responds that he thinks it's pretty classless considering everything said employee has done over the years. It's as simple as that.

People should have started John Elway should shut up threads when he answered a question about Terrell Owens possibly going to the Denver Broncos. It's none of his business. He's not Owen's agent, nor is he a member of the Denver Broncos organization. He should mind his own business when it comes to possible personnel moves for the team.

Thats lunacy if you think you can compare a retired John Elway commenting on what he thinks a player of TO's attitude would do to a lockerroom and Favre openly throwing his TEAMMATE under the bus when negotiating with management. If Favre was retired, go ahead, say any damn thing you want it doesn't matter. But he was Javon Walker's teammate and it is a unwritten rule that teammates don't get involved with other players contract situation. And it seems like Javon Walker had a point when he stated "he wanted to fairly compensated before a major injury occurred." What happened? He blew his ACL and lost out on millions of dollars and this in thanks to Brett Favre making a national media story over his renegotiation attempts with management.

It was none of Brett Fare's business what Javon Walker wanted for himself. And for Brett to come out and say, "I hope they don't give it to him" just shows how classless that guy is. He openly wished something negative on his teammate. I have never heard of another instance of player doing that to a GOOD teammate like Walker. Insanity.

[Willynowei]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2415604

Regardless of if he is right or not about the Mcnair situation why does he feel the need to speak on other players and teams bussiness. Titans owe Mcniar nothing. He didn't win a superbowl and has gotten paid for the time he was there. Titans are well within their rights to protect themselves from that huge contract number he has this year. Also no way Titans should feel a resposibilty to cut him right now and let him go to ravens. They have every right to hold onto him until the bitter end. It may not be smart because other players will remember Titans did that, but for sure it is no business of Favres.
I'm sick of this guy and hope he just goes away soon and minds his own business.

I disagree with everything you said there.

[sirhcyennek81]

Favre can say what he likes. Its obvious the Titans are dicking over McNair, Favre said what everyone else is thinking.

:Broncos:

[Pendejo]

Thats lunacy if you think you can compare a retired John Elway commenting on what he thinks a player of TO's attitude would do to a lockerroom and Favre openly throwing his TEAMMATE under the bus when negotiating with management. If Favre was retired, go ahead, say any damn thing you want it doesn't matter. But he was Javon Walker's teammate and it is a unwritten rule that teammates don't get involved with other players contract situation. And it seems like Javon Walker had a point when he stated "he wanted to fairly compensated before a major injury occurred." What happened? He blew his ACL and lost out on millions of dollars and this in thanks to Brett Favre making a national media story over his renegotiation attempts with management.

It was none of Brett Fare's business what Javon Walker wanted for himself. And for Brett to come out and say, "I hope they don't give it to him" just shows how classless that guy is. He openly wished something negative on his teammate. I have never heard of another instance of player doing that to a GOOD teammate like Walker. Insanity.

An accusation of lunacy coming from the Orangemane's resident blowhard means about as much as a contract from the Tennessee Titans...a la...not very much.

This isn't about Farve and Walker, or Favre and the Packers jackass. It's about Farve commenting on the Titan's mistreatment of Steve McNair. You know...the Titan's version of John Elway.

Yes it is exactly the same...Elway commenting on T.O., and Favre commenting on McNair. Neither has an actual affiliation with the franchises in question. They're both expressing opionions.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I'm just about 99% sure that my opinion on topic X = Gonzo^(-1)

[Popps]

I thought I was the resident blowhard!

[ClevelandBronco]

Yeah I hate it when guys who have proven themselves on the football field have an opinion about something, and actually express their feelings, or simply answer a question they're asked matter of factly. Somebody keel-haul that dick. Leave opining to 'mane's legions.

Pendejo already said everything that should have been said.

[chaz]

this is the same way TO got in trouble...i dont think it is right, for a guy to answer a simple question honestly, and then we all jump on him for it...nothing wrong with being honest

[jossjeff]

Maybe he thought this was America.

Nice

[Kaylore]

Sorry, Favre defenders, but it's about being responsible as a player the press listens too. Sure it's a free country, but that doesn't mean what you say carries no consequence.

If was as big in my field as Favre is and someone asked me what I thought about one of my colleagues' sitatutions who worked for someone else, I would decline a comment or keep it pretty generic. I don't know what the circumstances are or what's going on and my comments won't add anything, will only serve to make a volatile sitaution worse, and are going to be spun on ESPN for three weeks.