Broncos Afraid to trade up

[dragondawg]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_83_4636215,00.html

[meangene]

Stupid article. Great players do not necesarily come from top 10 picks. That's why you have scouts and personnel evaluators. Look at TD, Sharpe, etc. In this draft, there is great depth and value in rounds 2 and 3. In fact, when you consider our needs, we will get just as good a player with SF 2nd as our #22 and gain an early 3rd in the process. We also still have great flexibility with so many picks. We should upgrade this team significantly with this draft. We really seem to be following the NE pattern for success more and more and I like it.

[eddie mac]

Can anyone guess what his article would have been this morning if the Broncos had landed a top 6 pick. Something like "One elite draft pick will not fill the multiple holes this team has".

The guys a prick.

[extralife]

The problem with being a sports writer is there isn't always something to talk about. To top it off, when you're good, or actually know what you're talking about, the story isn't about you. It isn't about your opinions. Like every other facet of journalism, it's about the people, situations and moments you cover. When you run out of things to say, and you don't have the talent, experience or knowledge to do something interesting, you have to take a ridiculous stance on every little thing and write a terrible column about it. You don't even have to believe it. In fact, you probably don't believe it. But that's the job. And hell, that'll even get you on TV, these days!

It's a terrible industry full of terrible voids of nothing that almost no one can manage to navigate.

[Crushisback]

What an idiot! We still have the ability to trade up, we are just more flexible now. We lost no points as far as the value chart. Considering the crap shoot the draft really is we now a much greater chance of finding a gem in this draft.

[Drek]

I don't know, the thought of trading half your draft, plus paying a rookie all-pro levels of cash, kind of scares me too. It'd be different if we could actually land Mario Williams or Reggie Bush, but we can't.

[watermock]

Krieger has always been a moron. There is Zero reason that Denver can't move again. We have wiggled our way from a 29 to a 15 and two seconds, again, one high, and recaptured a high third. We have moved higher in every round into the second day.

What this shows me is that SF and Denver are dancing partners. This could just be a precursor to another deal. Keghead thinks this is the end all and he's simply making a moronic assumption. I still smell smoke.

[Mediator12]

His own statement defies any internal validity to his WHOLE article:

"You can usually find someone willing to give up second- and third-rounders for a first."

If the broncos want a shot at a guy who drops they have different denominations of payment in order to not overpay with picks for a guy. What if Davis drops to pick eight Krieger ??? Do you give Buffalo #15 and #22 to get him? Who is going to make the trade with the Broncos for 22 if SF already picked at number 6?

Totally stupid article that reeks of Retribution to Dove Valley for being secretive over the draft.

[-Slap-]

This looks like a picture you might see accompanying an article in The Advocate.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/images/columnists/r-dave-krieger.jpg

[OrangeShadow]

this draft is SO deep i dont think that argument is very valid at all

[ND Bronco Fan]

Dudes 50 and has an earing, he should be living in San Fran that tofu fartin fairy.

[baja]

This looks like a picture you might see accompanying an article in The Advocate.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/images/columnists/r-dave-krieger.jpg

Yep definitely gay and takes three showers a day at a minimum

[Odysseus]

The problem with being a sports writer is there isn't always something to talk about. To top it off, when you're good, or actually know what you're talking about, the story isn't about you. It isn't about your opinions. Like every other facet of journalism, it's about the people, situations and moments you cover. When you run out of things to say, and you don't have the talent, experience or knowledge to do something interesting, you have to take a ridiculous stance on every little thing and write a terrible column about it. You don't even have to believe it. In fact, you probably don't believe it. But that's the job. And hell, that'll even get you on TV, these days!

It's a terrible industry full of terrible voids of nothing that almost no one can manage to navigate.

I think you are either a good journalist or a bad journalist. It's not easy to pear down 1000 words to 500 so your editor can slash it to 100 or even 15. It's not easy to stay current on every sport, every region, and then deal with people's obsessive, compulsive and neurotic little ticks. I agree with you about the voids. I truly wonder if some of these guys have a soul.

I am a journalistic liberatarian. I don't have to sit across from Mike Shanahan to know what kind of guy I'm dealing with. I see his team on Sundays and the scoreboard is proof enough. I think you can surmise more by what a person does than by what they say. I think if you want to talk about boutique journalists you should consider this place first. These guys are specialists. Nobody here has to know a thing about Jai Hai, X Games, or horseshoes. All they have to know about is football and specifically the Broncos. How can you leave that whole group of people untapped?

There IS always something to talk about. I'll throw some ideas around. Why not a retro piece on the early days? Whose the oldest living Denver Broncos? What's he doing now? Where is "chicken" hanging out these days? Why aren't the Broncos considered a uniform change? Didn't they like what happened last time? Which Broncos have relatives and family in Iraq? When are they really going to put the Fans in fan fair? How many ideas do you want? I could write 100 of these. You either can write or you can't...period. Most of these guys are lazy pricks who consider complaining biting journalism and whipering a journalistic instinct. I wouldn't pick half these guys for a game of dodgeball and the rest are only worth $8 an hour from the neck up.

I think the real problem is editors stifling their writers. Poor Bill Williamson. His editor has him so terrified he stutters with entire repeat articles. Ask him to write about something without the puppet masters hand up his butt. I don't think he would do anything but sit there and drool.

The truth will set you free. It doesn't take a genius to write most of this crap. Most writers want to be on t.v. but unfortunately most writers are not worthwhile and don't deseve it. If it's an issue of public trust why don't you invite the public in. What's a matter? Don't you trust the public?

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Yep definitely gay and takes three showers a day at a minimum
Dave must shower frequently to combat the slime that oozes from every pore of his body.

[DarkHorse30]

it's sad that the RMN had to have a Woody.......Paige and hire Kreiger. I didn't even have to clik the link to know who wrote it, judging from the comments.

[Clockwork Orange]

Can anyone guess what his article would have been this morning if the Broncos had landed a top 6 pick. Something like "One elite draft pick will not fill the multiple holes this team has".

The guys a prick.

Bingo. These writers are a lot like a certain percentage of fans in that they'll find something to complain about no matter what the Broncos do. If they trade up they're mortgaging their future. If they trade down they're scared to move up. If they stay put they're not being active enough.

Pretty typical.

[bronco militia]

Damn, eat your heart out Mark Kizla.

all Dave had to do was talk to his good budy Jeff:



Denver had been rumored in recent weeks as a possible candidate to package both its first-round picks to move into the top 10 and grab one of the draft's premier talents.

The target most often cited - University of Maryland tight end Vernon Davis - also is the player most closely linked with the 49ers, who also own the No. 6 pick.

The Broncos talked with three teams above the 49ers, including the Tennessee Titans and Green Bay Packers, to try to move ahead of the 49ers and possibly land Davis but were rebuffed.

The Packers apparently appear set on Ohio State linebacker A.J. Hawk, and the Titans are focusing on a quarterback, either Southern California's Matt Leinart or Texas' Vince Young. The third team is unknown.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...636004,00.html

[dsmoot]

it's sad that the RMN had to have a Woody.......Paige and hire Kreiger. I didn't even have to clik the link to know who wrote it, judging from the comments.

I don't always agree with Krieger, then again not everyone agrees with me. I have found him to be pragmatic in his thinking and is willing to look at the other side of a situation. I much prefer him to other Bronco media types such as Kizla (very negative) or Williamson (original thinking?). Lets face it, on a forum like this there are very few kudos given to these guys, mostly criticism. I also like to read Wood and Armstrong.

[Clockwork Orange]

Part of this is also that Krieger likely doesn't know much, if anything, about the players outside of the top 10 of this draft.

[watermock]

The tribe has spoken. Time to extiguish his torch, or mini bic lighter in this case. This forum has some excellent snoop dogs. Nothing, I mean NOTHING really doesn't get past us, and we have some excellent writers and excellent opinions. Of course, you have to glean the wheat from the chaf, but if it's out there, it will make it here.

We really need to grind Bowlen to give us at least one press credential. I swear, Burger Bill regurtitates stuff from our own board. It's freakin' obvious. Rarely if ever do we get "breaking news" from that slob.

Kaylore would be my choice, with Meck as backup. We need to keep pounding on the door till we can kick it down. This isn't some podunk little willie site anymore, just like Denver isn't a cowtown anymore. It's too early in the morning to get my BP worked up, but I'm formulating a plan.

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4914/georgebushvader9re.jpg

I was going to put Monty Burns there but that one was priceless.

[DarkHorse30]

I don't always agree with Krieger, then again not everyone agrees with me. I have found him to be pragmatic in his thinking and is willing to look at the other side of a situation. I much prefer him to other Bronco media types such as Kizla (very negative) or Williamson (original thinking?). Lets face it, on a forum like this there are very few kudos given to these guys, mostly criticism. I also like to read Wood and Armstrong.

Most of the idiot writers (IMO) were/are on the Denver Post (Williamson, Kiszla, Paige)....which is why I prefer reading the RMN since Shefter left the Post. They seem to know more about the game they are writing about. Kiszla is a complete joke. Krieger joins the club of idiots, just my 2 cents.