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04-13-2006, 11:05 AM
Broncos writer Jeff Legwold answers readers' e-mails every Wednesday.
Send your questions to legwoldj@rockymountainnews.com and he'll answer the best questions.
Everybody's feelin' that draft . . .
Wednesday, April 12 at 12:01 AM
Michael Hansen is waiting . . .
Q: Are there going to be any potential free agents June 1 that the Broncos might be interested in? Maybe a defensive end or safety . . . possibly a wideout? I can't believe (coach Mike Shanahan) would have this plan in mind after a successful season and then losing solid play and leadership.
A: Well, when something works, teams usually repeat it. The Broncos have gone slow and steady in free agency this year -- as they promised, I might add -- because it worked for them last season.
I've always felt like a team can't be fully judged for its offseason until the draft class is in the house. The Broncos offseason in 2005 looked a lot better in hindsight once folks saw cornerbacks Domonique Foxworth and Darrent Williams play.
Championship-caliber teams are built in the draft. Two of the most high-profile players the Broncos elected to spend their free agency dollars on this offseason -- Tom Nalen and Matt Lepsis -- were homegrown players.
That's how it should go. Draft well, pay the ones you can keep, draft more to replace the ones you can't,
Free agency is a tough thing. People want action. But action is expensive and hinders you against the cap in the coming years.
I admit up front I think free agency should be used to smooth a team's edges not to build a roster. And it's a long way around to your question, but that's why free agency signings after the draft have more purpose in my mind.
After the draft, especially one like this year when the Broncos have two of the first 22 picks off the board, is when a team can more accurately assess itself. And the teams that are more patient in free agency don't leave talent on the board because they spent $30 million on another player in March.
The teams that routinely spend the big money in free agency get older and looking at those drafts over the years, they also reach more on draft day for a position of need, leap-frogging the best players on the board to do it.
So I think the Broncos will certainly make a signing or two late in free agency, much like when they added Ron Dayne last year. Some more players will be cleared after the draft who are not currently on the market.
The Broncos thinnest position on the roster right now is defensive tackle. They need some depth there, and the best value at that position in this year's draft is from the second round on.
That spot could also get a look with a late signing, depending on who finds his way into the market. It's just most teams aren't quite sure what June might look like until they get through the draft.
Most general managers I speak to don't even want to guess at this point.
Charles Baker in Maryland, wonders . . .
Q: It continues to kiss me away. The Broncos have zero pass rush and don’t seem to care. (Kenard) Lang? Come on. If (they) don’t have a player bothering the quarterback, (they) will be near the bottom in pass defense yet again. Same old story for years. What are your thoughts?
A: I think quality, consistent pressure on a quarterback is, overall, more important than sacks. But that said, the defenses who turn the football over a lot and control the flow knock the quarterback down as well.
Look no further than the Super Bowl teams -- Pittsburgh and Seattle -- who were two of the best at sacking the quarterback this past season.
To me there are some edge rushers in this draft beyond North Carolina State's Mario Williams, who is expected to be the first defensive end taken. Players like Tamba Hali, Manny Lawson and Darryl Tapp are going to be there later in the first round.
All three are high-effort players. And a careful team can find some great athleticism on the board as well. Lawson was the ACC's indoor long-jump champion at one point in his career -- that's big-time explosiveness -- while a guy later in the draft like Syracuse defensive end Ryan LaCasse is a former state 100-meter champion in Massachusetts at his size and he won the New England Championship in the 100 meters as well.
I know it may be tiresome, but the draft board can fix some problems especially at quick-impact positions like defensive end, cornerback, running back and linebacker. Those positions traditionally play quickly.
Jevon Kearse's best sack total as a pro is still the 14.5 he had in his rookie season, and he had never played in a three-point stance in college. So if the Broncos don't find some edge speed in this draft, then you can worry some.
Jim Bond in Kansas City wants to hook a QB . . .
Q: I am writing for the first time from the heart of enemy country, Kansas City. I am a die-hard Broncos fan and would like to know what the possibility is of the Broncos moving up in the draft to pick up a quarterback like Vince Young. Some of the mock drafts have him going possibly at No. 7 to the (Oakland) Raiders. I have heard speculation the Broncos could package a deal to move up in the top five. I love this guy. As I watched him take over games in the past two Rose Bowls, it reminded me of the way (John) Elway used to take over games. Frankly I could tolerate another season or two of mediocrity if I knew they were grooming our quarterback of the future. This guy is a once-in-a-lifetime talent who, I think, would look great in the blue and orange. I would hate to see him chucking balls for the silver and black.
A: You may have to. Young will still, despite some teams' concerns over his ability to learn an NFL offense, likely be off the board fairly quickly. And any team that wants a quarterback will be looking to move up, not down, so that limits the Broncos and other teams who may also want to move up in the first round.
The key pick for Young will be the Titans at No. 3. They had Matt Leinart in for a workout at their complex Tuesday and will have Young in today (Wednesday, April 12).
This is their final look at the two of them. And the team is pretty split on the two in house. They are most likely to pick Leinart, but there is support for Young at the pick as well because the Titans have a young tackle tandem set to start in 2006 -- Michael Roos and Jacob Bell -- still learning the nuances of the position.
And Leinart hasn't been hit much in his time at USC, and some teams just don't know how he will react to the inevitable big shots he's going to take.
The jockeying will certainly be on after the Titans make their pick, and either Leinart or Young is still on the board. And because of that it will be expensive to move in there, probably more expensive than even the Broncos' two-first rounders could make happen, no matter what the trade chart says.
Teams in desperate need for a quarterback will be quick to give what they have to give to get in position.
The wild card in this is the Saints at No. 2. They are shopping the pick, having signed Drew Brees, and general manager Mickey Loomis is calling the shots. He's unpredictable on draft day because his background is in administration and not football.
They gave Brees $60 million despite shoulder surgery and say they have confidence Brees will be ready to play by the time training camp breaks. So, at least on the surface, they don't need another potential franchise passer, so they just might have the pick teams may need to get to snare their quarterback of choice because the Titans are waiting at No. 3.
That means the Saints will be a popular call as the time winds down before April 29.
Michael Fuller has turned back the clock . . .
Q: Over the years I have noticed a curious trend in the selections that the Broncos make at the top of the draft. I noticed it first with the selection of John Mobley. The next linebacker taken in that draft was Ray Lewis. John Mobley was a nice player and will forever be immortalized for knocking down the pass from Brett Favre that sealed the Broncos’ first Super Bowl win, but Ray Lewis is a potential Hall of Famer. I began looking at the next player picked at the same position after the Broncos' selection. Ashley Lelie over Javon Walker for instance, let alone someone like Marcus Nash over anybody. We can all allow that the draft is a roll of the dice, but over time a team that does a better job should come out ahead, no?
A: True enough. I will say the comparisons will always come because that's the nature of the draft.
A lot of teams had Mobley above Lewis in that draft, just like some teams -- though it's rare they admit to it now -- had Ryan Leaf above Peyton Manning on the board as well.
When teams do consistently get in trouble, Broncos included, is when they reach on a player with an extensive injury history in college and then use a first-day pick anyway.
One of those in a draft is OK, two maybe. But get too deep with too many players with injury troubles -- no matter the talent -- and frustration will most likely follow.
As far as Walker and Lelie, I'd say it's close. Lelie has one 1,000-yard season, two additional 600-yard seasons and a career per-catch average of 17.9. Walker has one 1,000-yard season, one additional 700-yard season and a career per-catch average of 15.6.
Walker, who is coming off ACL surgery, leads in career TDs -- 22 in three seasons for the most part to Lelie's 12 in four. Some of that is a Hall of Famer (Brett Favre) is throwing to Walker and some of it is Lelie still can't always muscle himself into the open spaces when things get tight in the red zone.
You have to play mean inside the 20. When Lelie does, he'll go to the Pro Bowl. Until then he will continue to be frustrated by defensive backs putting their hands all over him.
Alex Faiks wants some primetime runners . . .
Q: The general opinion with fans and media members regarding the Broncos running game is that they can plug in any back and be productive. If this is true, then wouldn’t it stand to reason that the Broncos could plug in a star caliber back and upgrade their running game from “very productive” to “dominant?'' Reuben Droughns and Mike Anderson played tough and filled up the stat sheet the last couple of years, but only with Clinton Portis and Terrell Davis were the Broncos truly the best running team in football. This is the strength of the offense, and the focal point of the offense should be a top-flight back, not a plug-in.
A: I believe this as well, it's just you'd have a hard time arguing with the Broncos about it. Nobody has rushed for more yardage over the last 11 seasons than they have.
They have had one 1,000-yard rusher after another.
And yet Portis was the only guy drafted, other than Tatum Bell, with Shanahan thinking he could be a gamebreaker when the pick came off the board. Anybody with the team who tells you they honestly believed Terrell Davis would be a 2,000-yard rusher in a season when they waited until the sixth round to take him would be fibbing.
But they liked Davis' profile, his potential, and he worked extremely hard and had a fantastic team around him.
There are some intriguing backs that fit the Broncos profile this year as well. Minnesota's Laurence Maroney is a zone runner -- the Gophers run game is one of the closest to the Broncos' in the college game, a big reason the Broncos drafted former Minnesota lineman Ben Hamilton as well -- who runs with purpose, gets up the field and has a finishing burst.
LenDale White is another, but he is making teams all over the league nervous. He likely won't run a 40-yard dash before the draft -- he's said he's bothered by a hamstring injury, but few teams believe him at this point -- and has shown sub-par strength in workouts.
So the team that picks him is going by what they saw him do on game day. He had back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons to go with 24 TDs last year for USC (a school record), and they came in a backfield that included two Heisman winners.
Still, he should know people are nervous and are openly questioning his work ethic in their draft meetings.
Also a name to keep handy is LSU's Joseph Addai, a 214-pounder who scalded the RCA Dome field at the combine with a 4.41 (electronic) 40. He catches the ball well and punishes people as a blocker.
LSU moved him all over the depth chart -- he didn't win the job outright in 2003 when Domanick Davis and LaBrandon Toefield left -- playing him at running back, wide receiver and fullback. But he's tough and he never griped publicly when he was moved in and out of the lineup.
He did tear an ACL in high school, but after struggling with it some in his freshman season in Baton Rouge, he didn't have any problems. He played on a bad ankle for much of 2005 -- 911 yards, nine touchdowns -- or folks may have heard more about him to this point.
Mississippi State's Jerious Norwood is a guy who was stuck on a bad team. But at 210 pounds he ran a 4.33 40 (electronic) at the combine and was durable enough to have played 46 consecutive games in the SEC.
He had back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons for a struggling team and averaged 5.4 yards a carry in 2004 to go with 5.9 in '05.
Jemal Duran is strolling through the two-deep . . .
Q: Although we still don't know exactly what the team will do in the draft, the coaching staff seems to feel like there's already plenty of talent among our current group of receivers. There's been much talk of David Terrell taking the next step this year, something I'm confident could happen, but one player I really enjoyed watching last year has been all but absent from off-season coverage. What's the current status of receiver Todd Devoe? Will he get a chance to compete for that No. 3 spot this year? When coaches talk about guys stepping it up next season, I don't hear his name mentioned. I also know that sometimes a player will display weaknesses or bad habits that prevent them from getting playing time . . . is there something like that going on behind the scenes for Devoe? I thought he showed signs of being a real playmaker in 2005.
A: Devoe will need a huge training camp to get into the mix at the No. 3 receiver. I think Terrell will get a long look there and has the goods physically. He just needs to show he's willing to grab some playing time now that he knows the offense.
He didn't play last year because former offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak was more comfortable with other players after Terrell was signed in the first week of the regular season.
He almost suited up for the Thanksgiving game in Dallas, but Tatum Bell was injured so Terrell remained on the sideline.
Devoe is tough, has some skills and is a quality special teams player. But he'll have to battle hard in camp and have some breaks fall his way to get more playing time.
It's a safe bet there will be at least one drafted receiver in the mix as well.
And finally Craig Nelson leaves some fingerprints . . .
Q: I was curious about the gloves that most of the offensive receivers and defensive backs seem to wear these days. What are those gloves made of and how can they catch better with gloves on than without? I have never seen gloves where you don't lose some manual dexterity and the ones they wear seem pretty bulky yet they wear them in weather that's good and bad.
A: These are not our father's gloves. Reebok spends a lot money making these things. They're lightweight, have a material that stays dry in the palm no matter the weather and they seem bulky in appearance because they're also insulated.
So warm, dry and not heavy…That's why so many guys wear them. Folks can get some for their very own for $50 or so a pair.
That’s it, and thanks.
Send your questions to legwoldj@rockymountainnews.com and he'll answer the best questions.
Everybody's feelin' that draft . . .
Wednesday, April 12 at 12:01 AM
Michael Hansen is waiting . . .
Q: Are there going to be any potential free agents June 1 that the Broncos might be interested in? Maybe a defensive end or safety . . . possibly a wideout? I can't believe (coach Mike Shanahan) would have this plan in mind after a successful season and then losing solid play and leadership.
A: Well, when something works, teams usually repeat it. The Broncos have gone slow and steady in free agency this year -- as they promised, I might add -- because it worked for them last season.
I've always felt like a team can't be fully judged for its offseason until the draft class is in the house. The Broncos offseason in 2005 looked a lot better in hindsight once folks saw cornerbacks Domonique Foxworth and Darrent Williams play.
Championship-caliber teams are built in the draft. Two of the most high-profile players the Broncos elected to spend their free agency dollars on this offseason -- Tom Nalen and Matt Lepsis -- were homegrown players.
That's how it should go. Draft well, pay the ones you can keep, draft more to replace the ones you can't,
Free agency is a tough thing. People want action. But action is expensive and hinders you against the cap in the coming years.
I admit up front I think free agency should be used to smooth a team's edges not to build a roster. And it's a long way around to your question, but that's why free agency signings after the draft have more purpose in my mind.
After the draft, especially one like this year when the Broncos have two of the first 22 picks off the board, is when a team can more accurately assess itself. And the teams that are more patient in free agency don't leave talent on the board because they spent $30 million on another player in March.
The teams that routinely spend the big money in free agency get older and looking at those drafts over the years, they also reach more on draft day for a position of need, leap-frogging the best players on the board to do it.
So I think the Broncos will certainly make a signing or two late in free agency, much like when they added Ron Dayne last year. Some more players will be cleared after the draft who are not currently on the market.
The Broncos thinnest position on the roster right now is defensive tackle. They need some depth there, and the best value at that position in this year's draft is from the second round on.
That spot could also get a look with a late signing, depending on who finds his way into the market. It's just most teams aren't quite sure what June might look like until they get through the draft.
Most general managers I speak to don't even want to guess at this point.
Charles Baker in Maryland, wonders . . .
Q: It continues to kiss me away. The Broncos have zero pass rush and don’t seem to care. (Kenard) Lang? Come on. If (they) don’t have a player bothering the quarterback, (they) will be near the bottom in pass defense yet again. Same old story for years. What are your thoughts?
A: I think quality, consistent pressure on a quarterback is, overall, more important than sacks. But that said, the defenses who turn the football over a lot and control the flow knock the quarterback down as well.
Look no further than the Super Bowl teams -- Pittsburgh and Seattle -- who were two of the best at sacking the quarterback this past season.
To me there are some edge rushers in this draft beyond North Carolina State's Mario Williams, who is expected to be the first defensive end taken. Players like Tamba Hali, Manny Lawson and Darryl Tapp are going to be there later in the first round.
All three are high-effort players. And a careful team can find some great athleticism on the board as well. Lawson was the ACC's indoor long-jump champion at one point in his career -- that's big-time explosiveness -- while a guy later in the draft like Syracuse defensive end Ryan LaCasse is a former state 100-meter champion in Massachusetts at his size and he won the New England Championship in the 100 meters as well.
I know it may be tiresome, but the draft board can fix some problems especially at quick-impact positions like defensive end, cornerback, running back and linebacker. Those positions traditionally play quickly.
Jevon Kearse's best sack total as a pro is still the 14.5 he had in his rookie season, and he had never played in a three-point stance in college. So if the Broncos don't find some edge speed in this draft, then you can worry some.
Jim Bond in Kansas City wants to hook a QB . . .
Q: I am writing for the first time from the heart of enemy country, Kansas City. I am a die-hard Broncos fan and would like to know what the possibility is of the Broncos moving up in the draft to pick up a quarterback like Vince Young. Some of the mock drafts have him going possibly at No. 7 to the (Oakland) Raiders. I have heard speculation the Broncos could package a deal to move up in the top five. I love this guy. As I watched him take over games in the past two Rose Bowls, it reminded me of the way (John) Elway used to take over games. Frankly I could tolerate another season or two of mediocrity if I knew they were grooming our quarterback of the future. This guy is a once-in-a-lifetime talent who, I think, would look great in the blue and orange. I would hate to see him chucking balls for the silver and black.
A: You may have to. Young will still, despite some teams' concerns over his ability to learn an NFL offense, likely be off the board fairly quickly. And any team that wants a quarterback will be looking to move up, not down, so that limits the Broncos and other teams who may also want to move up in the first round.
The key pick for Young will be the Titans at No. 3. They had Matt Leinart in for a workout at their complex Tuesday and will have Young in today (Wednesday, April 12).
This is their final look at the two of them. And the team is pretty split on the two in house. They are most likely to pick Leinart, but there is support for Young at the pick as well because the Titans have a young tackle tandem set to start in 2006 -- Michael Roos and Jacob Bell -- still learning the nuances of the position.
And Leinart hasn't been hit much in his time at USC, and some teams just don't know how he will react to the inevitable big shots he's going to take.
The jockeying will certainly be on after the Titans make their pick, and either Leinart or Young is still on the board. And because of that it will be expensive to move in there, probably more expensive than even the Broncos' two-first rounders could make happen, no matter what the trade chart says.
Teams in desperate need for a quarterback will be quick to give what they have to give to get in position.
The wild card in this is the Saints at No. 2. They are shopping the pick, having signed Drew Brees, and general manager Mickey Loomis is calling the shots. He's unpredictable on draft day because his background is in administration and not football.
They gave Brees $60 million despite shoulder surgery and say they have confidence Brees will be ready to play by the time training camp breaks. So, at least on the surface, they don't need another potential franchise passer, so they just might have the pick teams may need to get to snare their quarterback of choice because the Titans are waiting at No. 3.
That means the Saints will be a popular call as the time winds down before April 29.
Michael Fuller has turned back the clock . . .
Q: Over the years I have noticed a curious trend in the selections that the Broncos make at the top of the draft. I noticed it first with the selection of John Mobley. The next linebacker taken in that draft was Ray Lewis. John Mobley was a nice player and will forever be immortalized for knocking down the pass from Brett Favre that sealed the Broncos’ first Super Bowl win, but Ray Lewis is a potential Hall of Famer. I began looking at the next player picked at the same position after the Broncos' selection. Ashley Lelie over Javon Walker for instance, let alone someone like Marcus Nash over anybody. We can all allow that the draft is a roll of the dice, but over time a team that does a better job should come out ahead, no?
A: True enough. I will say the comparisons will always come because that's the nature of the draft.
A lot of teams had Mobley above Lewis in that draft, just like some teams -- though it's rare they admit to it now -- had Ryan Leaf above Peyton Manning on the board as well.
When teams do consistently get in trouble, Broncos included, is when they reach on a player with an extensive injury history in college and then use a first-day pick anyway.
One of those in a draft is OK, two maybe. But get too deep with too many players with injury troubles -- no matter the talent -- and frustration will most likely follow.
As far as Walker and Lelie, I'd say it's close. Lelie has one 1,000-yard season, two additional 600-yard seasons and a career per-catch average of 17.9. Walker has one 1,000-yard season, one additional 700-yard season and a career per-catch average of 15.6.
Walker, who is coming off ACL surgery, leads in career TDs -- 22 in three seasons for the most part to Lelie's 12 in four. Some of that is a Hall of Famer (Brett Favre) is throwing to Walker and some of it is Lelie still can't always muscle himself into the open spaces when things get tight in the red zone.
You have to play mean inside the 20. When Lelie does, he'll go to the Pro Bowl. Until then he will continue to be frustrated by defensive backs putting their hands all over him.
Alex Faiks wants some primetime runners . . .
Q: The general opinion with fans and media members regarding the Broncos running game is that they can plug in any back and be productive. If this is true, then wouldn’t it stand to reason that the Broncos could plug in a star caliber back and upgrade their running game from “very productive” to “dominant?'' Reuben Droughns and Mike Anderson played tough and filled up the stat sheet the last couple of years, but only with Clinton Portis and Terrell Davis were the Broncos truly the best running team in football. This is the strength of the offense, and the focal point of the offense should be a top-flight back, not a plug-in.
A: I believe this as well, it's just you'd have a hard time arguing with the Broncos about it. Nobody has rushed for more yardage over the last 11 seasons than they have.
They have had one 1,000-yard rusher after another.
And yet Portis was the only guy drafted, other than Tatum Bell, with Shanahan thinking he could be a gamebreaker when the pick came off the board. Anybody with the team who tells you they honestly believed Terrell Davis would be a 2,000-yard rusher in a season when they waited until the sixth round to take him would be fibbing.
But they liked Davis' profile, his potential, and he worked extremely hard and had a fantastic team around him.
There are some intriguing backs that fit the Broncos profile this year as well. Minnesota's Laurence Maroney is a zone runner -- the Gophers run game is one of the closest to the Broncos' in the college game, a big reason the Broncos drafted former Minnesota lineman Ben Hamilton as well -- who runs with purpose, gets up the field and has a finishing burst.
LenDale White is another, but he is making teams all over the league nervous. He likely won't run a 40-yard dash before the draft -- he's said he's bothered by a hamstring injury, but few teams believe him at this point -- and has shown sub-par strength in workouts.
So the team that picks him is going by what they saw him do on game day. He had back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons to go with 24 TDs last year for USC (a school record), and they came in a backfield that included two Heisman winners.
Still, he should know people are nervous and are openly questioning his work ethic in their draft meetings.
Also a name to keep handy is LSU's Joseph Addai, a 214-pounder who scalded the RCA Dome field at the combine with a 4.41 (electronic) 40. He catches the ball well and punishes people as a blocker.
LSU moved him all over the depth chart -- he didn't win the job outright in 2003 when Domanick Davis and LaBrandon Toefield left -- playing him at running back, wide receiver and fullback. But he's tough and he never griped publicly when he was moved in and out of the lineup.
He did tear an ACL in high school, but after struggling with it some in his freshman season in Baton Rouge, he didn't have any problems. He played on a bad ankle for much of 2005 -- 911 yards, nine touchdowns -- or folks may have heard more about him to this point.
Mississippi State's Jerious Norwood is a guy who was stuck on a bad team. But at 210 pounds he ran a 4.33 40 (electronic) at the combine and was durable enough to have played 46 consecutive games in the SEC.
He had back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons for a struggling team and averaged 5.4 yards a carry in 2004 to go with 5.9 in '05.
Jemal Duran is strolling through the two-deep . . .
Q: Although we still don't know exactly what the team will do in the draft, the coaching staff seems to feel like there's already plenty of talent among our current group of receivers. There's been much talk of David Terrell taking the next step this year, something I'm confident could happen, but one player I really enjoyed watching last year has been all but absent from off-season coverage. What's the current status of receiver Todd Devoe? Will he get a chance to compete for that No. 3 spot this year? When coaches talk about guys stepping it up next season, I don't hear his name mentioned. I also know that sometimes a player will display weaknesses or bad habits that prevent them from getting playing time . . . is there something like that going on behind the scenes for Devoe? I thought he showed signs of being a real playmaker in 2005.
A: Devoe will need a huge training camp to get into the mix at the No. 3 receiver. I think Terrell will get a long look there and has the goods physically. He just needs to show he's willing to grab some playing time now that he knows the offense.
He didn't play last year because former offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak was more comfortable with other players after Terrell was signed in the first week of the regular season.
He almost suited up for the Thanksgiving game in Dallas, but Tatum Bell was injured so Terrell remained on the sideline.
Devoe is tough, has some skills and is a quality special teams player. But he'll have to battle hard in camp and have some breaks fall his way to get more playing time.
It's a safe bet there will be at least one drafted receiver in the mix as well.
And finally Craig Nelson leaves some fingerprints . . .
Q: I was curious about the gloves that most of the offensive receivers and defensive backs seem to wear these days. What are those gloves made of and how can they catch better with gloves on than without? I have never seen gloves where you don't lose some manual dexterity and the ones they wear seem pretty bulky yet they wear them in weather that's good and bad.
A: These are not our father's gloves. Reebok spends a lot money making these things. They're lightweight, have a material that stays dry in the palm no matter the weather and they seem bulky in appearance because they're also insulated.
So warm, dry and not heavy…That's why so many guys wear them. Folks can get some for their very own for $50 or so a pair.
That’s it, and thanks.