View Full Version : This might be the coolest defense system ever
Rock Chalk
04-07-2006, 04:01 PM
http://media2.foxnews.com/040606/040606_fr_tobin_300.swf
Candy Cigarettes
04-07-2006, 04:25 PM
http://media2.foxnews.com/040606/040606_fr_tobin_300.swf
Interesting, but the report is so vague it's hard to understand how this works. I wonder if it could be used on a grander scale to prevent incoming nuclear missile attacks. The report makes it sound like something out of Star Wars or Star Trek.......sure would like to know how it works.
*I'm saving up my money for one of these babies -
http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_DREAD,,00.html
120,000 rounds a minute with no heat, no recoil, and no gunpowder.
scorpio
04-07-2006, 04:37 PM
probably causes cancer
Boobs McGee
04-07-2006, 04:40 PM
That is some pretty amazing stuff. Hopefully we can see it in use as quickly as possible. This is the future of defensive systems right here. Nice find
listopencil
04-07-2006, 05:43 PM
Interesting, but the report is so vague it's hard to understand how this works.
The members of the media were most likely given very vague info. Notice that it only takes out the explosive warhead delivered by a small airborne threat? It's nothing like the proverbial "force field" of science fiction. What's interesting is the system's ability to deliver some type of energy exactly where it needs to be in such a short period of time.
-Slap-
04-07-2006, 06:24 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2974&dateline=1143968423
If giant ants show up, no way am I going to
abandon my vehicle and attempt to flee on foot.
Rock Chalk
04-07-2006, 07:51 PM
The members of the media were most likely given very vague info. Notice that it only takes out the explosive warhead delivered by a small airborne threat? It's nothing like the proverbial "force field" of science fiction. What's interesting is the system's ability to deliver some type of energy exactly where it needs to be in such a short period of time.
Seems to me the field doesnt "stop" an incoming projectile, but causes it to explode far enough away that the armor of the tank can withstand any impact it causes from the shock wave and any residual shrapnel that overcame the field's resistance.
It's not as strong as the science fiction force fields, but it looks to me like one. I got the impression that radar (and I assume infrared tracking) devices detect incoming projectiles and then activate the field for a very limited time, to merely stop the projectile and then shuts itself off. That leads me to believe that it requires a very large amount of energy or a very high energy spike to create the field. If it is some sort of electro-magnetic field, well, if strong enough could act "like" a brick wall.
Very freaking amazing IMO though. I mean, what could stop an army equipped with that technology?
listopencil
04-07-2006, 08:04 PM
It's sweet-no doubt. I think the field is only present for detection and delivery and when the weapon breaks the outer plane of the field all of the energy of the system is transferred to it. I think they use an electromagnetic field for detection and delivery. The projectiles in the test looked like they were only effected by the explosion of the warhead and the debris continued on uninterrupted in what looked to me like natural movement. One of the people in the video mentioned that, that the debris would continue on and impact the tank but the impact would have no effect. Definitely interesting. I wonder why they are publicising it?
Merlin
04-07-2006, 09:32 PM
There is no field. A radar tracks the incoming missile and then a new type of weaponry is used to SHOOT down the incoming missile. That system probably has so many bugs it will not work for another 5 yrs in a real scenario.
listopencil
04-07-2006, 10:59 PM
There is no field. A radar tracks the incoming missile and then a new type of weaponry is used to SHOOT down the incoming missile. That system probably has so many bugs it will not work for another 5 yrs in a real scenario.
The Navy has had a system like you are describing (AEGIS, linked to a gun) for quite some time.
Kaylore
04-07-2006, 11:17 PM
This isn't that surprising. It's essentially the missiled defense shield we're building but a very small version of it for one vehicle. It launches a warhead at the other warhead and eliminates it's explosive capabilities. If we can hit nuclear missiles we can hit little RPG's.
rubaiyat
04-08-2006, 03:12 AM
Seems to me the field doesnt "stop" an incoming projectile, but causes it to explode far enough away that the armor of the tank can withstand any impact it causes from the shock wave and any residual shrapnel that overcame the field's resistance.
It's not as strong as the science fiction force fields, but it looks to me like one. I got the impression that radar (and I assume infrared tracking) devices detect incoming projectiles and then activate the field for a very limited time, to merely stop the projectile and then shuts itself off. That leads me to believe that it requires a very large amount of energy or a very high energy spike to create the field. If it is some sort of electro-magnetic field, well, if strong enough could act "like" a brick wall.
Very freaking amazing IMO though. I mean, what could stop an army equipped with that technology?
Fire twice. If it DOES take high energy, then wait for the capacitors to discharge and fire again.
No defense is perfect...at best it gives you an edge for the short term.
rubaiyat
04-08-2006, 03:14 AM
The Navy has had a system like you are describing (AEGIS, linked to a gun) for quite some time.
And it operates by spraying the local environment with lead...not something too useful in the modern urban type of combat...unless you accept horrendous civilian casualties.
rubaiyat
04-08-2006, 03:15 AM
This isn't that surprising. It's essentially the missiled defense shield we're building but a very small version of it for one vehicle. It launches a warhead at the other warhead and eliminates it's explosive capabilities. If we can hit nuclear missiles we can hit little RPG's.
We'll see if we can hit any missiles with any type of regularity, though forbid we ever have to use such a defense against a nuclear strike.
Rausch
04-08-2006, 03:17 AM
It's a low energy cold plasma "shield."
Not that this is anywhere near new. We've had a missle defense system since 91 and satellite mounted ICBM laser defense since 87...
Rascal
04-08-2006, 05:28 AM
The Navy has had a system like you are describing (AEGIS, linked to a gun) for quite some time.
The phalanx is not a good option for city fighting or any fighting on the ground.
Rascal
04-08-2006, 05:29 AM
I've actually heard of this before and I'm suprised they released it to the public. The problem it currently has is the recharge time.
OrangeShadow
04-08-2006, 05:44 AM
thats pretty incredible
TDmvp
04-08-2006, 06:56 AM
A friend of mine from highschool worked for 3 years on stuff to this nature in Arizon . Had top secret clearance and whatnot .Never told me anything anyone else couldnt read or hear on the news , Hes really anal about his clearance LOL , not that i blame him ..he just moved to a new job in Ohio close to where we grew up that requires him to upgrade his clearance he put my father down as a Ref, told him i should show up the day the Feds interview my old man in a POT MAKE IT LEGAL t-shirt LOLOL. Hes a real brain like 31 went to college like 9 years ... the whole shooting a bullet with a bullet thing is hit and miss " bad pun" but they do it alot and they miss alot heheh .... after he moved there and knew what he was doing id see stories on Fox news sometimes about test fire of a missle defeating system based in Arizona.
Very cool stuff tho.and in this day and age hope they hurry ...they should name the first one of these that go live
"The Reaganator"
Willynowei
04-08-2006, 10:50 AM
I question the effective ness of that system.
What if the RPG was fired from a prone position where the projectile was hugging near the ground? wouldn't the mini radar fail to pick it up?
Rock Chalk
04-08-2006, 10:57 AM
I question the effective ness of that system.
What if the RPG was fired from a prone position where the projectile was hugging near the ground? wouldn't the mini radar fail to pick it up?
Maybe.
Rock Chalk
04-08-2006, 10:59 AM
There is no field. A radar tracks the incoming missile and then a new type of weaponry is used to SHOOT down the incoming missile. That system probably has so many bugs it will not work for another 5 yrs in a real scenario.
How do you know?
Or are you just guessing?
watermock
04-08-2006, 11:06 AM
The "bubble" is misleading, that's just it's 360 degree capability. It's no doubt some highly focused energy discharge. It's classified for a purpose. Israel has damn good scientists. Hopefully they will give us the technology...they certainly should since we got their back constantly.
Seeing is believing.
Hulamau
04-08-2006, 12:27 PM
Now they just need a personal-sized system tht the individual soldier could wear in their helmet to stop incoming rifle and machine gun fire and that would change things dramatically.
rubaiyat
04-08-2006, 01:14 PM
Now they just need a personal-sized system tht the individual soldier could wear in their helmet to stop incoming rifle and machine gun fire and that would change things dramatically.
I don't know how it would. At least anytime in the near (next 50 years) future. It looks marginally possible on a large vehicle...with chemical explosives as the targets. Most fire an infantryman would worry about isn't gonna be packing a warhead.
Hogan11
04-08-2006, 01:17 PM
It can't be the coolest defense system ever unless Buddy Ryan designed it.