View Full Version : Would you trade away #22 pick?
Ballhawk
04-04-2006, 08:10 PM
Say for a high 2nd and a 1st rounder next year?
This draft is so deep and our needs are really DE, RB, WR S, TE and the 2nd round has quality TE, S, and possibly a decent WR in Hagen (who had a stellar year previously but went through a QB change).
Ratboy
04-04-2006, 08:12 PM
Damn straight i would!
SoCalBronco
04-04-2006, 08:12 PM
Id love to trade down from 22 to pick up more picks, but not for a 2nd and a 1st next year. Next year's draft is not going to be that good unless there is an amazing flood of juniors.
An early 2nd, early 3rd and early 4th, all in this draft, id definitely go with it.
Ballhawk
04-04-2006, 08:14 PM
SoCal, I still have my dream of getting Brohm next year who I believe will declare and yes we will need to get two first rounders to be in play.
Clockwork Orange
04-04-2006, 08:15 PM
Depends who wanted to trade.
WaffleBoy
04-04-2006, 08:15 PM
Trade that selection to Pittsburgh so we can get LenDale White and return to smashmouth football. ;D
The Boy Wonder :super:
STBumpkin
04-04-2006, 08:16 PM
depends on who it was with. If the Pack or Buffalo wanted to trade I'd say yes, giving us a good chance at a top 5-10 pick next year. Overall, I think it would be a good deal if it got us in the top 15 next year.
Clockwork Orange
04-04-2006, 08:16 PM
Trade that selection to Pittsburgh so we can get LenDale White and return to smashmouth football. ;D
Make it Hines Ward & the 32nd pick and you've got yourself a deal. :yep:
SoCalBronco
04-04-2006, 08:17 PM
SoCal, I still have my dream of getting Brohm next year who I believe will declare and yes we will need to get two first rounders to be in play.
Id love to get Brohm. As CO points out, it depends on who we are doing the trading with. If its a ****ty team, than Id consider it, but generally speaking after looking at the prospect lists, im underwhelmed by next year's draft at most positions except for perhaps WR and possibly QB depending on which juniors declare.
WaffleBoy
04-04-2006, 08:18 PM
Make it Hines Ward & the 32nd pick and you've got yourself a deal. :yep:
How about Deuce and 32 selection? :thumbs:
The Boy Wonder :super:
WaffleBoy
04-04-2006, 08:20 PM
Id love to get Brohm. As CO points out, it depends on who we are doing the trading with. If its a ****ty team, than Id consider it, but generally speaking after looking at the prospect lists, im underwhelmed by next year's draft at most positions except for perhaps WR and possibly QB depending on which juniors declare.
Louisville signal caller, Socal?
The Boy Wonder :super:
Clockwork Orange
04-04-2006, 08:20 PM
How about Deuce and 32 selection?
No thanks. Polamalu and 32?:thumbs:
Ballhawk
04-04-2006, 08:21 PM
Louisville signal caller, Socal?
The Boy Wonder :super:
Yes
SoCalBronco
04-04-2006, 08:22 PM
If we were to trade for a 2007 first, id love to have both picks come from Louisville. ;D (That is, if we dont take a RB high this year).
chanesaw
04-04-2006, 08:22 PM
Maybe 2 1sts next year could put us in a position to draft Quinn.
WaffleBoy
04-04-2006, 08:23 PM
No thanks. Polamalu and 32?:thumbs:
sounds like grand theft. ;D
The Boy Wonder :super:
Clockwork Orange
04-04-2006, 08:25 PM
sounds like grand theft. ;D
Yes, it does. ;D
STBumpkin
04-04-2006, 08:25 PM
Maybe 2 1sts next year could put us in a position to draft Quinn.
That whiney, pouty brat is the last guy I want in a broncos uni
WaffleBoy
04-04-2006, 08:25 PM
Maybe 2 1sts next year could put us in a position to draft Quinn.
Quinn is not accurate enough. Too many open receivers he missed badly. Brohm is the best prospect--very accurate.
The Boy Wonder :super:
cutthemdown
04-04-2006, 08:26 PM
I would say yes to that trade. I also think something like that a real possibilty.
SoCalBronco
04-04-2006, 08:27 PM
Brohm is probably the best QB prospect in the last several years. He would be great here. I just hope he is over the leg injury.
listopencil
04-04-2006, 08:27 PM
We'd have to be trading with someone who we knew were not going to make the playoffs. Nope.
orangefan
04-04-2006, 08:28 PM
I would trade 22 for Minnesota's 2 2nd rounders they would probably have to throw in a 5th to even it up
WaffleBoy
04-04-2006, 08:29 PM
Brohm is probably the best QB prospect in the last several years. He would be great here. I just hope he is over the leg injury.
Socal, who you are hoping the Broncos select this year?
The Boy Wonder :super:
spdirty
04-04-2006, 08:43 PM
who would we trade with? With the Raiders? Yeah! With the Seahawks? maybe...
SoCalBronco
04-04-2006, 08:45 PM
Socal, who you are hoping the Broncos select this year?
The Boy Wonder :super:
Preferred Players at 15
1. Lendale White
2. Broderick Bunkley
3. DeAngelo Williams
Preferred Players at 22
1. Marcedes Lewis
2. Mathias Kiwanuka
3. Leonard Pope
4. Tamba Hali
5. Laurence Maroney
sirhcyennek81
04-04-2006, 08:45 PM
The Broncos will select...*truck passes by...* I think he can really help us...
:Broncos:
azbroncfan
04-04-2006, 08:50 PM
Trade that selection to Pittsburgh so we can get LenDale White and return to smashmouth football. ;D
The Boy Wonder :super:
I didn't realize you played for the squeelers, wait I almost forgot you are the teams sperm drop box. sorry my bad
Finger Roll
04-04-2006, 09:03 PM
no. I'm sick of waiting for next year and rooting for the team we traded to to lose like the Redskins. I don't have patients I'm getting old. I just turned 30 today for crying out loud.
Kaylore
04-04-2006, 09:19 PM
Depends who wanted to trade. I voted yes but my decision would be similarly conditioned.
SpringStein
04-04-2006, 09:44 PM
Id love to trade down from 22 to pick up more picks, but not for a 2nd and a 1st next year. Next year's draft is not going to be that good unless there is an amazing flood of juniors.
An early 2nd, early 3rd and early 4th, all in this draft, id definitely go with it.
And the reason this is a great idea? Some of our key needs being TE, S and OG - there will be great value in the 2nd and 3rd for these positions.
Requiem
04-04-2006, 09:55 PM
Depends. I think next year's draft will be pretty strong, but not as strong as this. If there is a flood of underclassmen, it should be solid.
Hercules Rockefeller
04-04-2006, 09:55 PM
Absolutely. A mid-2nd in this draft is probably a 1st round talent in most years, and another 1st round pick next year.
SoCalBronco
04-04-2006, 10:01 PM
Depends. I think next year's draft will be pretty strong, but not as strong as this. If there is a flood of underclassmen, it should be solid.
http://www.gbnreport.com/2007prospects.html
I dont see a great deal of talent. The offensive side of the ball looks okay, some good QBs, some good RBs, a very good WR class, couple pretty good TEs at the top if Miller and Olsen come out and Herian gets back on the map from his injuries, but the defense as a whole looks very subpar.
We'd have to be trading with someone who we knew were not going to make the playoffs. Nope.
Even then it could backfire ... we all thought the Redskin pick would have been in the top 10 and then they had that late season tear that dropped us to #22.
Billy Clyde Puckett
04-04-2006, 10:31 PM
Maybe 2 1sts next year could put us in a position to draft Quinn.
Quinn will be a 3rd rounder by this time next year. The most over rated player in the country this year.
Requiem
04-04-2006, 10:33 PM
Lmao. I doubt it. Quinn is going top ten, easy.
ludo21
04-04-2006, 10:38 PM
depends on the trade.
This draft is very good, i wouldnt be opposed to trading 22 and getting picks for THIS year.
Atlas
04-04-2006, 10:54 PM
I would love it if some sh!tty team gave Denver their wanted to trade a 3rd this year and a first and 4th next year for Denver's first this year. I love that. Save on cap get quality middle round picks and you have a chance of getting a top 10 pick.
The Redskins were a lot better than we thought but still Denver got a 3rd last year a 4th this year and their draft position in the first round moved up from 25 to 22. I say Shanny should definately try to do that again.
This is what Shanny should do. He should trade down from 22 to the late first round and collect a 3rd then he should trade this years late first for some teams 2007 first. That way Denver would have two 3rds this year plus the teams 1st and 4th next year.
Denver's 2006 draft
1st
2nd
3rd
3rd
4th
4th
4th
5th
6th
Denver's 2007 draft
1st
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
4th
5th
6th
7th
Man-Goblin
04-04-2006, 10:55 PM
No. The time is now, people. This team is close. Get all the help you can get, NOW.
NFLBRONCO
04-04-2006, 10:57 PM
I think Denver should consider trading down from 15 and 22 this year.
Tombstone RJ
04-04-2006, 10:59 PM
Id love to trade down from 22 to pick up more picks, but not for a 2nd and a 1st next year. Next year's draft is not going to be that good unless there is an amazing flood of juniors.
An early 2nd, early 3rd and early 4th, all in this draft, id definitely go with it.
Right on SoCal. Hell yah, I trade, but not for just one second and next year's first.
It'd have to be for multiple picks in this draft.
Ratboy
04-04-2006, 11:48 PM
I would love to get Brady Quinn, along with Jeff Samardzija.
SoCalBronco
04-04-2006, 11:49 PM
I would love to get Brady Quinn, along with Jeff Samardzija.
Im certainly onboard with Samardzija.
labronco
04-05-2006, 12:08 AM
April is by far the longest month of the year. I feel like we should all be hybernating until the draft day. Yawn
But since we are wide awake and got nothing better to do, let me say this. My guess is we are not done trading with first two picks. As unpredictable as Shanny is on the draft day, i cannot imagine Shanny sitting in the war room chair, hoping that his choice of players will fall onto his lap. By that time he will have his target(s). He will then either use both picks to move up into top 5 or use 22nd pick to move down. I think the former is more likely. I wish for Mario or Vernon, but only thing consistent about the draft is Shanny does not follow conventional wisdom. You know what? I would not be surprised if he ends up with top 5 pick and get Vince Young or Jay Cutler.
labronco
04-05-2006, 12:14 AM
Oh, and Socal, I am warming up to the idea of working DJ more at Wilson's position. I am also of an opinion that we should try DJ at RB position. I think he will be outstanding, and we should all forget about drafting RB with our first round picks.
maven
04-05-2006, 12:58 AM
If Denver again trades a #1 for a future #1, Calvin Johnson better be the ****ing pick!
watermock
04-05-2006, 05:27 AM
Not for next year, unless it would be for a loser. As we have found out, is stepped on my dick thinking Wash would suck. I'm sure Dove Valley thought it would be a high pick too, at least around 10.
If we could move up to get VD by trading down to a high second I'm game. I honestly think White is going to drop past 22 and maybe even into the early second now.
The original post said "high 2nd", I'm assuming that means top 10-15 in the 2nd, i.e. a team well out of the playoffs this year. We lost the gamble last year with the skins, though two firsts is real nice this year as it is, but I'd be more than willing to try it again.
To be quite honest, I'd do it every year we get an offer until we land a top 10 pick from said team. Hell, if we did land a top 10 pick and there wasn't a guy we were totally in love with I'd trade down again and stockpile picks even further.
I'm not real concerned with the quality of a draft class, there is pretty much always a top group of 30-40 players who're quality, just avoid overpicking within that group (i.e. Alex Smith was probably mid 20's to low 30's last year, overpicked at #1).
This year in particular I'd be all for a trade, since Lelie's contract is up, Smith is only going to be another year older, and we have jack **** outside of them for targets in the passing game right now. TE this year in a deep TE class, followed by stocking up on WRs next year in a deep 1st round for WRs. I want Calvin Jackson and Samardzja both if possible. Hell of a lot better than overpicking someone at 22, which I think is going to happen since this draft doesn't look to fall out well for mid first round selections. Bunch of top end talent, bunch of late first/early second round talent, not a whole lot of guys in our need positions filling in the middle.
broncohaven
04-05-2006, 06:23 AM
Yes, I'm targeting a QB from Stanford in 2007. Two firsts would make that possible.
DrFate
04-05-2006, 06:33 AM
I'd trade any pick if it got better value in return.
DrFate
04-05-2006, 06:36 AM
Im certainly onboard with Samardzija.
Is he going to play football on Sundays? I was told he was a baseball prospect too.
???
DennisSmithHOF
04-05-2006, 06:48 AM
I do not like Michigan State at all, but Drew Stanton needs to be on the list. I would definetely rank him higher than most of the QBs on that list.
Mediator12
04-05-2006, 07:04 AM
Is he going to play football on Sundays? I was told he was a baseball prospect too.
???
I think he used that to deflect his decision to stay in school personally. He is nowhere as talented in Baseball as he is in Football. He also would have been in the top 3 WR's selected in this weak WR draft. Next year he will have a lot more competition and may be selected later.
DrFate
04-05-2006, 07:14 AM
I think he used that to deflect his decision to stay in school personally. He is nowhere as talented in Baseball as he is in Football. He also would have been in the top 3 WR's selected in this weak WR draft. Next year he will have a lot more competition and may be selected later.
I am in the 'draft Samardzija' camp, no doubt. I co-worker told me he was a big deal baseball prospect (a pitcher?)
He needs to play football. For Denver.
:)
MileHighMania
04-05-2006, 08:24 AM
I would like to see them keep the two R1 picks. This team has a chance to repeat the success of 2005 and if they can reload a couple of positions this year and prepare for the future at the same time.
Rod Smith doesn't have too many good years left as the #1 guy that he's been in this offense, we need a young WR to step up... Lelie should be that guy, but I would like to see them take a WR in R1. This is also why I'd like to see a trade of a R2 pick for Walker.
I think the window of opportunity with this team is small... offensively, we need to take pressure off of Rod - he's the only true consistent and proven weapon we have. If Rod gets hurt... I don't have a lot of faith in Lelie, Terrell, Watts and company to step up. Our TE situation is a bit of a question mark as well... hell, our starting RB is a question mark. It should be Bell, but will he step up and be the producer that many think he can be or will it be a rookie... again. It sure as hell won't be Dayne, he's a nice option for 4-5 carries, but the dude is not a starter... not even in this offense.
If we could get a solid playmaker at DE with #22, let's take him. I'd like to see WR/DE with the first round picks. Then focus on best available by need after that...
I would like to see them keep the two R1 picks. This team has a chance to repeat the success of 2005 and if they can reload a couple of positions this year and prepare for the future at the same time.
Rod Smith doesn't have too many good years left as the #1 guy that he's been in this offense, we need a young WR to step up... Lelie should be that guy, but I would like to see them take a WR in R1. This is also why I'd like to see a trade of a R2 pick for Walker.
The Pack aren't shopping Walker and even if they were he wants a big money deal and is rehabbing from an ACL. A 2nd seems rather steep.
Also, the best WR in this class (Holmes or Jackson) is a lesser prospect than Lelie was coming out of college. Do we really want to use the 15th overall pick on someone like that?
Horrible draft to go after WR early. From the looks of it you could get some steals in rounds 2, 3, and 4 though (Moss, Hagan, Stovall is my personal favorite).
MileHighMania
04-05-2006, 10:40 AM
I was just throwing the Walker deal out there... regarding drafting a WR early, I'm not exactly a fan of it, but the one area that concerns me most is WR behind Rod with Rod's age.
ludo21
04-05-2006, 10:43 AM
I was just throwing the Walker deal out there... regarding drafting a WR early, I'm not exactly a fan of it, but the one area that concerns me most is WR behind Rod with Rod's age.
Will have to be a later round WR imo.
At least i hope so (STovall, Hagan, Haas) one of those kina guys...
Jackosn and Holmes will not be much better than the list above.
Still some FA out there, so we can stil make something happen june cut time.
MileHighMania
04-05-2006, 10:48 AM
The one thing about the draft and Shanahan is that I've quit hoping for a certain player in the early rounds... I have been surprised more often than not. Not always bad, but there have been times. I just have serious WR concerns for the next few years, esp with Lelie being a FA next year, right? I hope he kicks ass this year and proves he is worth the big money he'll likely get.
Billy Clyde Puckett
04-05-2006, 11:24 AM
Will have to be a later round WR imo.
At least i hope so (STovall, Hagan, Haas) one of those kina guys...
Jackosn and Holmes will not be much better than the list above.
Still some FA out there, so we can stil make something happen june cut time.
Don't forget Orr and Greg Lee in the WR discussions for rounds 3/4. (yes I know Broncs don't have a 3 at this time)
I'd trade any pick if it got better value in return.LOL