Sex tourism thriving in Bible Belt

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Conservative "family values" in action...

ATLANTA (Reuters) - In a sleazy hotel room, "Brittany," then aged 16 and drugged into oblivion, waited for the men to arrive. Her pimps sent as many as 17 clients an evening through the door.

A "john" could even pre-book the pretty young blonde for $1,000 a night, sometimes flying in and then flying out from a nearby airport.

None of this happened in Bangkok or Costa Rica, places that have become synonymous with sex tourism and underage sex.

It took place in Atlanta, the buckle of the U.S. Bible Belt, where the world's busiest passenger airport provides a cheaper, more convenient and safer underage sex destination for men seeking girls as young as 10.

"Men fly in, are met by pimps, have sex with a 14-year-old for lunch, and get home in time for dinner with the family," said Sanford Jones, the chief juvenile judge of Fulton County, Georgia.

A new federal law passed in 2003 ensures that American sex tourists landing on foreign soil and hiring prostitutes under the age of 18 can get 30 years in prison.

But in Georgia, punishment for pimping or soliciting sex with a girl under 18 is only five to 20 years, according to Deborah Espy, the Deputy District Attorney of Fulton County.

"Men are coming to Atlanta to have sex with a child," said LaKendra Baker, project manager for the Center to End Adolescent Sexual Exploitation (CEASE).

Half of the street-level prostitutes in Atlanta are believed to be under 18, according to experts.

Others are booked through Internet sex sites and from social sites like Black Planet, where girls innocently post profiles, said Baker.

Just in March, police arrested a Canadian man meeting a 14-year-old girl he found through the Internet, said Cathey Steinberg, executive director of the Juvenile Justice Fund, which funds treatment for abused girls and prevention.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=inDepthNews&storyID=2006-04-04T130904Z_01_N03210934_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-SEXTOURISM.xml&src=cms

[heydensmom]

That is just sicken.

[enjolras]

Some idiot in Atlanta does something morally reprehensible and its a somehow a reflection on the whole of the bible belt? Are you really implying that the entire southern Uunited States is somehow mired in a massive underage sex scam?

Use some fricking logic dude... its not like you don't find this idiocy in New York or California.

[spdirty]

Some idiot in Atlanta does something morally reprehensible and its a somehow a reflection on the whole of the bible belt? Are you really implying that the entire southern Uunited States is somehow mired in a massive underage sex scam?

Use some fricking logic dude... its not like you don't find this idiocy in New York or California.


Not to mention in a city that is one of the highest per capita murder rates in the country.

But, someone thinks that Atlanta is just exactly like Birmingham Alabama or Columbus Mississippi.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Some idiot in Atlanta does something morally reprehensible and its a somehow a reflection on the whole of the bible belt? Are you really implying that the entire southern Uunited States is somehow mired in a massive underage sex scam?

Use some fricking logic dude... its not like you don't find this idiocy in New York or California.

???

"Some idiot" as in "singular?"

You're really trying to imply that only one individual is involved in the activities documented in the article?

Use some reading comprehension, dude.

BTW, it's places like Atlanta (the buckle of the Bible belt) that tout their "conservative family values" - not NY or CA.

[Spider]

Not to mention in a city that is one of the highest per capita murder rates in the country.

But, someone thinks that Atlanta is just exactly like Birmingham Alabama or Columbus Mississippi.
Not a world of difference as far as culture , the way southerns think ..........Miami I would concider an exception ........and on some respects Tallahassee .......

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This was one of the most interesting facts presented in the article:

A new federal law passed in 2003 ensures that American sex tourists landing on foreign soil and hiring prostitutes under the age of 18 can get 30 years in prison.

But in Georgia, punishment for pimping or soliciting sex with a girl under 18 is only five to 20 years, according to Deborah Espy, the Deputy District Attorney of Fulton County.

Atlanta is the "buckle of the Bible belt," i.e., one of the country's largest strongholds for evangelical Christians and their "traditional, Christian family values," so how do "attack the messenger" conservatives like enjolras explain the contradiction here?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Holy cow! The cavalcade of republican family values hits just keeps on comin'....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060405/ap_on_re_us/press_secretary_arrested

Homeland Security Official Arrested for Sexually Soliciting Minor on Internet

Way to secure the homeland, bud! :oyvey:

MIAMI - The deputy press secretary for the U.S. Department of
Homeland Security was arrested Tuesday for using the Internet to seduce what he thought was a teenage girl, authorities said.

Brian J. Doyle, 55, was arrested at his residence in Maryland on charges of use of a computer to seduce a child and transmission of harmful material to a minor. The charges were issued out of Polk County, Fla.

Doyle, of Silver Spring, Md., had a sexually explicit conversation with what he believed was a 14-year-old girl whose profile he saw on the Internet on March 14, the Polk County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The girl was an undercover Polk County Sheriff's Computer Crimes detective, the sheriff's office said.

Doyle sent the girl pornographic movie clips and had sexually explicit conversations via the Internet, the statement said.

[Spider]

LOL , you put it in the right thread

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL , you put it in the right thread

Since it's a DHS official, I thought it warranted its own thread, but then I remembered the special rules about "spamming" that apply to me and me only.

:D

[Spider]

Since it's a DHS official, I thought it warranted its own thread, but then I remembered the special rules about "spamming" that apply to me and me only.

:D
good thing , you nailed the perfect thread with the some Republican family values ...... maybe they should change the title of the thread to most Republicans I dea of family values ;D

[Spider]

but know we understand why the republicans were so upset over Monica ... that Hag was way to old to be preforming sex ................

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

but know we understand why the republicans were so upset over Monica ... that Hag was way to old to be preforming sex ................

:rofl:

Yep - it's all becoming clear now.

:D

[ClevelandBronco]

DeKalb, Clayton and Fulton counties (basically metro Atlanta) voted Kerry in 2004. These folks are just another of the many blue islands in the red states.

[ClevelandBronco]

Actually, Atlanta isn't so much the buckle of the Bible Belt, but just another of the holes in the belt.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

But dig the state law:

A new federal law passed in 2003 ensures that American sex tourists landing on foreign soil and hiring prostitutes under the age of 18 can get 30 years in prison.

But in Georgia, punishment for pimping or soliciting sex with a girl under 18 is only five to 20 years, according to Deborah Espy, the Deputy District Attorney of Fulton County.

[ClevelandBronco]

Since it's a DHS official, I thought it warranted its own thread, but then I remembered the special rules about "spamming" that apply to me and me only.

:D

Does anyone know yet if the guy is a Republican, or is it just common sense and a good guess given his position?

Whatever. He's a scumbag. I just don't know for sure yet whether he's our scumbag.

[ClevelandBronco]

But dig the state law:

Good point. That's one hell of a weak law.

[12th man]

wow. that is just sick and pathatic. what low lifes.

[enjolras]

"Some idiot" as in "singular?"

You're really trying to imply that only one individual is involved in the activities documented in the article?

Ok.. multiple idiots in a city of a few million.

Yep, its truly a reflection of the entire region...jesus.

[spdirty]

Hell, I remember when I was stationed In Columbus MS in '00 they had an ad that WARNED people that the age of consent was like 14.

I dunno, the South is weird like that. It was not hard at all to get a piece of ass where I was, and you could call that right in the middle of the belt.

Hell, there isn't a lot to do down there, so people mate.

The law as well as the trafficking is sick though.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ok.. multiple idiots in a city of a few million.

Yep, its truly a reflection of the entire region...jesus.

Yes, the state laws are a reflection on the region.

But it's not just a case of idiots doing this kind of thing randomly - these people are flying into the region to take advantage of the opportunities presented and the lax laws.

And, no matter how you spin it, the region is an evangelical Xian "family values" stronghold.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Does anyone know yet if the guy is a Republican, or is it just common sense and a good guess given his position?

Whatever. He's a scumbag. I just don't know for sure yet whether he's our scumbag.

Has Bush ever appointed anyone who wasn't a republican (or who was a Dem) to any post?

[spdirty]

[quote=L.A. BRONCOS FAN]Yes, the state laws are a reflection on the region.

QUOTE]


Mississippi state law says that sex is to happen ONLY in the bedroom, the curtains must be drawn and the only position that is allowed is missionary.

Oral and anal are both illegal.

That might not be the case anymore though with the supreme court outlawing state sodomy laws.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Mississippi state law says that sex is to happen ONLY in the bedroom, the curtains must be drawn and the only position that is allowed is missionary.

Oral and anal are both illegal.

That might not be the case anymore though with the supreme court outlawing state sodomy laws.

Holy sheep sh_t.

Mississippi must be full of lawbreakers, then.

[spdirty]

yeah, but thats the law.

At least it was when I was there.

[ClevelandBronco]

Has Bush ever appointed anyone who wasn't a republican (or who was a Dem) to any post?

This was just the first thing that came up when I googled "democrat appointed by president bush":

"• Jonathan Adelstein, Democrat, Appointed by President Bush in November 2002. Term ended June 30, 2003. Whoever wins the presidential election in 2004 would have to renominate Adelstein for a full term before Congress adjourns this year in order for him to keep his seat."

The mention concerns a post at the FCC. Frankly, I don't know how often the president has appointed members of the loyal opposition to federal posts under his watch. But it looks like it happens, so my question stands:

Are we sure he's our scumbag yet?

[ClevelandBronco]

Holy sheep sh_t.

Mississippi must be full of lawbreakers, then.

I always loved the line from the movie "Mississippi Burning": "We're a dry county and we've got the alcoholics to prove it."

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Are we sure he's our scumbag yet?

He's a Bush administration official, isn't he?

:D

[ClevelandBronco]

Yeah. He is a disgrace to the human race. He might be a disgrace to the GOP, and maybe he was a token Democrat.

Who has the facts? Anyone yet?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Yes, the state laws are a reflection on the region.

But it's not just a case of idiots doing this kind of thing randomly - these people are flying into the region to take advantage of the opportunities presented and the lax laws.

And, no matter how you spin it, the region is an evangelical Xian "family values" stronghold.


How on earth is Atlanta a representative of the "Bible Belt"?

Atlanta is the "San Francisco" of the south. It's one of the most popular destinations for gays in the world.

How's this for a face valid deduction: "It makes sense that something so utterly sexually deviant would be occurring in a place so flooded with homosexual sodomy."

What's funny is that my admittedly face valid deduction is much more reasonable than your obtuse blanket statement that Southern Christians are closet pedophiles.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/mmail-2006-1.jpg

How on earth is Atlanta a representative of the "Bible Belt"?

You're really going to deny that the city is (among other things) an evangelical Xian stronghold?

BTW, it's not just Atlanta that's at issue here - it's also Georgia's comparatively lax laws re: sex with minors.

Atlanta is the "San Francisco" of the south. It's one of the most popular destinations for gays in the world.

This thread isn't about gays - it's about sex tourism for pedophiles in the Bible belt (although I realize you like to lump such groups in together.)

What's funny is that my admittedly face valid deduction is much more reasonable than your obtuse blanket statement that Southern Christians are closet pedophiles.

Show me this so-called "blanket statement" that indicates all Southern Xians are pedophiles.

You're either (a) experiencing difficulties with reading comprehension (no doubt due to your knee-jerk reactionary disposition) or (b) as usual, just pulling this "blanket statement" which you attribute to me out of your ass.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah. He is a disgrace to the human race. He might be a disgrace to the GOP, and maybe he was a token Democrat.

Who has the facts? Anyone yet?

None of the news services seem to be discussing his party affiliation in their stories.

However, given the research re: Bush's appointments of Democrats you just did, I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that he isn't a Dem.

[Mile High Shack]

you do your job well LABF, you draw people in to idiotic arguments

but you draw a lot of activity and TJ likes that...so I say good job...keep it up

your arguments are pretty bad, especially when it comes to this, but keep it up, you are doing your job here on the mane

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

you do your job well LABF, you draw people in to idiotic arguments

No - I just present uncomfortable news and inconvenient facts (uncomfortable and inconvenient if you're a repub, a fundie, or a bush supporter, that is.)

People like you make idiots of themselves by attacking the messenger and by creating deflections.

your arguments are pretty bad, especially when it comes to this

Simply labeling an argument "bad" isn't the same thing as refuting it.

All you are doing is advertising your ignorance and embarrassing yourself by pretending it is.

but keep it up, you are doing your job here on the mane

Your "job on the Mane" is to create deflections and to shift the focus from the original thread topic, i.e., Bible Belt sex tourism and pedophile DHS officials, to an attack on the messenger.

The humorous part is that you don't seem to realize you're just advertising your intellectual dishonesty in the process.

Well, at least you've learned the BushCo playbook well:

When one of your guys is caught doing something illegal or immoral, go on the attack against the person who exposed him.

[Mile High Shack]

No - I just present uncomfortable news and inconvenient facts (uncomfortable and inconvenient if you're a repub, a fundie, or a bush supporter, that is.)

People like you make idiots of themselves by attacking the messenger and by creating deflections.



Simply labeling an argument "bad" isn't the same thing as refuting it.

All you are doing is advertising your ignorance and embarrassing yourself by pretending it is.



Your "job on the Mane" is to create deflections and to shift the focus from the original thread topic, i.e., Bible Belt sex tourism and pedophile DHS officials, to an attack on the messenger.

The humorous part is that you don't seem to realize you're just advertising your intellectual dishonesty in the process.

Well, at least you've learned the BushCo playbook well:

When one of your guys is caught doing something illegal or immoral, go on the attack against the person who exposed him.

b/c bad things like happen in Atlanta Georgia, you broadbrush and entire region

pretty stupid if you ask me

you are about up there with Spider intellectually when he says all Christians support child molestors if you are a Republican

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

b/c bad things like happen in Atlanta Georgia, you broadbrush and entire region

pretty stupid if you ask me

Why do these pedophile sex tourists fly into ATL to do their thing?

Because of the easy access and the easy opportunities for sex with minors offered by the region.

Because of the relatively lax laws re: sex with minors that exist within the state.

But, according to you, these things are all Hollywood's fault, right?

The people of the State of Georgia don't elect their own reps who write legislation and whatnot.


you are about up there with Spider intellectually when he says all Christians support child molestors if you are a Republican

Show us where Spider said anything like this.

Quotes/links would be nice.

However, you have to admit that people like you sure spent a lot of time and energy attacking the messenger (Spider) and comparatively little time and energy denouncing the long roster of GOP molesters on his list.

[Mile High Shack]

you again paint a pretty broad brush

I never said it was Hollywood's fault

you are cracking apart at the seams

any child molestor needs to have their nuts cut off with a rusty knife blade....I don't believe I have ever supported them

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

you again paint a pretty broad brush


How so?

Do the people of GA not elect their own reps who write legislation?

Or is it someone else's fault that it's so easy to diddle kids in the region that pedophiles are flying in there just to do their thing?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

any child molestor needs to have their nuts cut off with a rusty knife blade....I don't believe I have ever supported them

No, I don't recall you supporting them, but, if I remember correctly, you were attacking Spider big time just for pointing out the fact that everyone on this extremely long list of pedophiles he posted was a repub.

Coincidence?

[Mile High Shack]

No, I don't recall you supporting them, but, if I remember correctly, you were attacking Spider big time just for pointing out the fact that everyone on this extremely long list of pedophiles he posted was a repub.

Coincidence?

I believe it was his hypocrisy in not listing all the democrats who have committed crimes of that nature, in trying to spin that republicans were somehow more suspestible to being child molestors

and I believe I said if they were martian, chinese, black, white, democrat, republican
they all need to be shived for touching kids

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I believe it was his hypocrisy in not listing all the democrats who have committed crimes of that nature, in trying to spin that republicans were somehow more suspestible to being child molestors


Then why didn't anyone on your side of the debate list those Dems?

Why couldn't anyone produce a comparably long list of Dem office holders who were pedophiles?

If such a list existed, then you would think Rush and O'Liely and the rest of the gang would be on it like white on rice.

You have to admit, that was an extremely long list of GOP office holders who were pedophiles Spider and others posted - and the list just keeps growing daily (see today's story about this Homeland Security freak.)

[Mile High Shack]

Then why didn't anyone on your side of the debate list those Dems?

Why couldn't anyone produce a comparably long list of Dem office holders who were pedophiles?

If such a list existed, then you would think Rush and O'Liely and the rest of the gang would be on it like white on rice.

You have to admit, that was an extremely long list of GOP office holders who were pedophiles Spider and others posted - and the list just keeps growing daily (see today's story about this Homeland Security freak.)

sigh

you are right

all republicans support child molestors

trying to have a logical discussion with you is like trying to debate the merits of potty training with my 9 month old

[TailgateNut]

sigh

you are right

all republicans support child molestors




I love this post! REP!!!!!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

sigh

you are right

all republicans support child molestors

When did I say "all?"

I, like Spider and others, simply pointed out the fact that there was a long, long list of republican office holders who were pedophiles.

How do you explain this phenomenon?

Is it just a coincidence?

If so, then why so many of them?

trying to have a logical discussion with you is like trying to debate the merits of potty training with my 9 month old

"Logical?"

Oh, the irony.

[Mile High Shack]

I love this post! REP!!!!!

I guess sarcasm is lost on the mentally challenged

[Mile High Shack]

When did I say "all?"

I, like Spider and others, simply pointed out the fact that there was a long, long list of republican office holders who were pedophiles.

How do you explain this phenomenon?

Is it just a coincidence?

If so, then why so many of them?

.

nope, when you check the little box to show what party you support you are required to rape an 8 year old boy, it's a tough job, but it's the only way to join up

moron

[TailgateNut]

I guess sarcasm is lost on the mentally challenged

If sarcasm is lost on the mentally challenged, you've just labeled yourself!
I didn't help put a moron in office, was smart enough to see through his BS., and I still wake up feeling good about my decisions and don't have to defend any of them on a daily basis! YOU?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

nope, when you check the little box to show what party you support you are required to rape an 8 year old boy, it's a tough job, but it's the only way to join up

Apparently so - judging from Spider's list.

On the real side, I'm betting that rather than taking a stab at explaining the coincidence I mentioned, you will just resort to name-calling and declare victory...3....2....1...

moron

:D

[Mile High Shack]

Apparently so - judging from Spider's list.

On the real side, I'm betting that rather than taking a stab at explaining the coincidence I mentioned, you will just resort to name-calling and declare victory...3....2....1...



:D

nope
you won

like I said...all republicans are child molestors...especially everyone in the south

LABF is the winner!!! hurrah for him!! hurraaahhhh

[Mile High Shack]

If sarcasm is lost on the mentally challenged, you've just labeled yourself!
I didn't help put a moron in office, was smart enough to see through his BS., and I still wake up feeling good about my decisions and don't have to defend any of them on a daily basis! YOU?

I haven't defended Bush in a long time, might want to recheck your broadbrush you are painting with

[TailgateNut]

I haven't defended Bush in a long time, might want to recheck your broadbrush you are painting with

A couple of minutes ago you defended his actions in theory, WITH theory!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

If sarcasm is lost on the mentally challenged, you've just labeled yourself!
I didn't help put a moron in office, was smart enough to see through his BS., and I still wake up feeling good about my decisions and don't have to defend any of them on a daily basis! YOU?

Amen, brother! :thumbsup:

Gee, you know, Spider posted this list as long as your arm IDing GOP office holders who were/are pedophiles.

I asked MHS if he could explain the coincidence, and he called me a moron!

These bush supporters sure are touchy. :D

[Mile High Shack]

A couple of minutes ago you defended his actions in theory, WITH theory!

no, I was explaining the theory behind the tax cuts, not whether I supported it or not

[Mile High Shack]

Amen, brother! :thumbsup:

Gee, you know, Spider posted this list as long as your arm IDing GOP office holders who were/are pedophiles.

I asked MHS if he could explain the coincidence, and he called me a moron!

These bush supporters sure are touchy. :D

no, I called you a moron for broadbrushing an entire segment of people based on a few incidents

do all democrats cheat on their wives with fat interns since your hero did?

broadbrushing people based on a few incidents is pretty short sighted and moronic logic

so, using that line of logic, can I say all black people are criminals since the majority of offenders in jail are black?
see how that works?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

nope
you won

like I said...all republicans are child molestors...especially everyone in the south

LABF is the winner!!! hurrah for him!! hurraaahhhh

So I guess this means you're not ready to take a stab at explaining the coincidence presented by Spider's list? (To which a new member was added today?)

Hint: You don't have to say all repubs are molesters - you just have to try to explain why so many elected repubs are kiddie diddlers.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

no, I called you a moron for broadbrushing an entire segment of people based on a few incidents

do all democrats cheat on their wives with fat interns since your hero did?

broadbrushing people based on a few incidents is pretty short sighted and moronic logic

so, using that line of logic, can I say all black people are criminals since the majority of offenders in jail are black?
see how that works?

You keep claiming I said "all" when I did not.

Do you realize how disingenuous this is?

I asked you the following:

Do the people of GA not elect their own reps who write legislation?

Is it someone else's fault that it's so easy to diddle kids in ATL that pedophiles sex tourists fly into the area just to take advantage?

Still waiting for your answer to these two questions...

[DBruleU]

nope
you won

like I said...all republicans are child molestors...especially everyone in the south

LABF is the winner!!! hurrah for him!! hurraaahhhh

Don't add to his ego. It's already large enough for everyone on the Mane.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Don't add to his ego. It's already large enough for everyone on the Mane.

This from a guy who has yet to man up and admit he made a serious blunder backing BushCo (and who still pretends he occupies the moral high ground here?)

That's just too rich! :rofl:

[DBruleU]

This from a guy who has yet to man up and admit he made a serious blunder backing BushCo (and who still pretends he occupies the moral high ground here?)

That's just too rich! :rofl:

Wait a minute....me on moral high ground?

I think you hold that position quite nicely LABF. You're always ranting and raving at how we're all stupid, and you know all.

[alkemical]

The article was a hit piece, but i hope it also sheds more light on the sextrade and human trafficing.

I mean we have a DHS employee surfing kiddie sites - we got someone in NASA busted for the same thing. The rumors about the boystown orphange selling kids services to politicians. And I think that girl natalie got sold off too...

[epicSocialism4tw]

The article was a hit piece, but i hope it also sheds more light on the sextrade and human trafficing.

I mean we have a DHS employee surfing kiddie sites - we got someone in NASA busted for the same thing. The rumors about the boystown orphange selling kids services to politicians. And I think that girl natalie got sold off too...


I would love to see a correlary study on the influence of porn on the perpetrators of sexual crimes. Any time that you dehumanize your "sexual partner" to the point that they arent even actually in the room, and do it regularly, you create neural circuits that theoretically could change brain chemistry to the point that it alters other neural assocations such as limbic relationships and on down the line. The regular viewing of porn (active or not..if you get my drift) undoubtedly effects a person's social behavior.

[alkemical]

I would love to see a correlary study on the influence of porn on the perpetrators of sexual crimes. Any time that you dehumanize your "sexual partner" to the point that they arent even actually in the room, and do it regularly, you create neural circuits that theoretically could change brain chemistry to the point that it alters other neural assocations such as limbic relationships and on down the line. The regular viewing of porn (active or not..if you get my drift) undoubtedly effects a person's social behavior.


I dunno, i watched p*rn but i don't think it really altered my perceptions of how to treat a woman, etc. Now, i don't watch bukkaki/etc types of things and that to me on a younger child (12-17) - could really alter the perceptions of relationships - but it's also in the parents job to do what they can to raise a healthy adjusted member of society too.

Some validity to your claims, but it's not near as all encompassing as you make it out to be.

[Rascal]

I would love to see a correlary study on the influence of porn on the perpetrators of sexual crimes. Any time that you dehumanize your "sexual partner" to the point that they arent even actually in the room, and do it regularly, you create neural circuits that theoretically could change brain chemistry to the point that it alters other neural assocations such as limbic relationships and on down the line. The regular viewing of porn (active or not..if you get my drift) undoubtedly effects a person's social behavior.

LOL...that explains so many things. Not about myself though.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I dunno, i watched p*rn but i don't think it really altered my perceptions of how to treat a woman, etc. Now, i don't watch bukkaki/etc types of things and that to me on a younger child (12-17) - could really alter the perceptions of relationships - but it's also in the parents job to do what they can to raise a healthy adjusted member of society too.

Some validity to your claims, but it's not near as all encompassing as you make it out to be.

That's why a study would be valuable.

The relationships of different regions of your brain to one another dictate your complete perception of the world around you, and then process that information into meaningful thoughts.

A person with a more developed sense of right and wrong displays more development in specific parts of the brain. This person would be better able to handle the high that is achieved by viewing porn. On the other hand, a person with less development in that same region would be more capable of ignoring law, or common decency to continue to achieve that high. Like any other drug or neurotransmitter, the NT's associated with sexual arousal change the brain chemistry in a way that reduces the concentration of other NT's in the area, and requires you to continue to produce those NT's associated from sexual arousal by increasing the intensity of the stimulus. Meaning that just as a heroin user has to use more heroin to seek that high, that a person needing sexual arousal in the stated manner to augment brain chemistry will have to seek that arousal in a more intense fashion.

Your brain is highly fluid and can learn to behave in new ways. it's called synaptic plasticity. So, even people with developed "moral" behavioral regions of the brain can become immoral in the seeking of that high, or a person without a moral oversight of that behavior can develop it.

[alkemical]

That's why a study would be valuable.

The relationships of different regions of your brain to one another dictate your complete perception of the world around you, and then process that information into meaningful thoughts.

A person with a more developed sense of right and wrong displays more development in specific parts of the brain. This person would be better able to handle the high that is achieved by viewing porn. On the other hand, a person with less development in that same region would be more capable of ignoring law, or common decency to continue to achieve that high. Like any other drug or neurotransmitter, the NT's associated with sexual arousal change the brain chemistry in a way that reduces the concentration of other NT's in the area, and requires you to continue to produce those NT's associated from sexual arousal by increasing the intensity of the stimulus. Meaning that just as a heroin user has to use more heroin to seek that high, that a person needing sexual arousal in the stated manner to augment brain chemistry will have to seek that arousal in a more intense fashion.

Your brain is highly fluid and can learn to behave in new ways. it's called synaptic plasticity. So, even people with developed "moral" behavioral regions of the brain can become immoral in the seeking of that high, or a person without a moral oversight of that behavior can develop it.



I don't think it's that cut & dried overall - or maybe i'm just higher up than the rest of you and i can sepearte my ego from myself.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I don't think it's that cut & dried overall - or maybe i'm just higher up than the rest of you and i can sepearte my ego from myself.

Separating the ego from yourself is nothing more than cutting off your anterior posterior parietal lobe that deals with spatial orientation and the separation of "me" from everything else. That doesnt mean that its not important, but it does mean that you might be a little off in your paradoxical statement that you are "higher up" because you can redistribute blood flow in your brain a little differently than everyone else.

The proper handling by the brain of dangerous behavior is dependant on many factors. The reason why you were able to adapt and move on without problems may be quite different than someone elses. You may be adhering to the laws of Shaltharisticah the Sewage god, and someone else might realize that it just isnt practical to look at that stuff because it could lead someone else into problems.

To understand, you have to know a little about human physiology. A person who smokes might not ever end up with lung cancer because of the dance of millions of variables that come into play when calcutating the probability of something like that coming to fruition. On the other hand, you have individuals who are suscetible to lung cancer and can end up with it with very little exposure to cigarette smoke, and their cancer be contributed to that smoke.

We're looking at the same principle here.

Your brain is an organ...just like your heart or your lungs.

[bendog]

hmmmm, so watching porn will make me want to have sex with many young (over 18) women?

[epicSocialism4tw]

hmmmm, so watching porn will make me want to have sex with many young (over 18) women?
:rofl:

[alkemical]

Separating the ego from yourself is nothing more than cutting off your anterior posterior parietal lobe that deals with spatial orientation and the separation of "me" from everything else. That doesnt mean that its not important, but it does mean that you might be a little off in your paradoxical statement that you are "higher up" because you can redistribute blood flow in your brain a little differently than everyone else.

The proper handling by the brain of dangerous behavior is dependant on many factors. The reason why you were able to adapt and move on without problems may be quite different than someone elses. You may be adhering to the laws of Shaltharisticah the Sewage god, and someone else might realize that it just isnt practical to look at that stuff because it could lead someone else into problems.

To understand, you have to know a little about human physiology. A person who smokes might not ever end up with lung cancer because of the dance of millions of variables that come into play when calcutating the probability of something like that coming to fruition. On the other hand, you have individuals who are suscetible to lung cancer and can end up with it with very little exposure to cigarette smoke, and their cancer be contributed to that smoke.

We're looking at the same principle here.

Your brain is an organ...just like your heart or your lungs.

I see my lame attempt at humor failed.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I see my lame attempt at humor failed.

I'm not always the best at pulling humor out of posts, so it might have slipped over my head. :)

[alkemical]

I'm not always the best at pulling humor out of posts, so it might have slipped over my head. :)


I don't think it's that cut & dried overall - or maybe i'm just higher up than the rest of you and i can sepearte my ego from myself.

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I thought the irony and hypocrisy of using my ego to denounce my ego was a good psycologists joke.


Actually Mr. Llama - i am working on visual meditations to resolve issues. Once you figure out the dream world is the archetype of the physical world, you can expidite some things and allow people to heal faster.

[Mile High Shack]

I don't think it's that cut & dried overall - or maybe i'm just higher up than the rest of you and i can sepearte my ego from myself.

__


I thought the irony and hypocrisy of using my ego to denounce my ego was a good psycologists joke.


Actually Mr. Llama - i am working on visual meditations to resolve issues. Once you figure out the dream world is the archetype of the physical world, you can expidite some things and allow people to heal faster.

I got your joke if it makes you feel any better, you stopped short of saying "I love me some me"

[epicSocialism4tw]

I
I thought the irony and hypocrisy of using my ego to denounce my ego was a good psycologists joke.


I saw that and addressed it in my post, but unfortunately for me I missed the humor.

I'm more of a neurophysiologist than a psychologist. This is the area of study that I concern myself with as a hobby. I would really like to define the link between mind and matter. The elegant mechanism that births thought. Not just from a chemical standpoint, but by using the chemical and physical events as a basis for founding a matrix. Kind of like the picture tube of the brain.

[alkemical]

I saw that and addressed it in my post, but unfortunately for me I missed the humor.

I'm more of a neurophysiologist than a psychologist. This is the area of study that I concern myself with as a hobby. I would really like to define the link between mind and matter. The elegant mechanism that births thought. Not just from a chemical standpoint, but by using the chemical and physical events as a basis for founding a matrix. Kind of like the picture tube of the brain.

actually, i've been using that exact principle - the manipulation of the ether by direction of the will.

On another point, similiar in material - HG Wells concept of time travel is more aiken to pre/retro cognition -

[alkemical]

I got your joke if it makes you feel any better, you stopped short of saying "I love me some me"


:)

I don't like to make it THAT obvious.

[bendog]

American Idol would be better if they had a nude show, absent mandesa.

[alkemical]

make an episode pitch dog, i'm sure the WB would pick it up

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Wait a minute....me on moral high ground?

I think you hold that position quite nicely LABF. You're always ranting and raving at how we're all stupid, and you know all.

Actually, it was your pal MHS who called me a moron in this discussion - not the other way around.

(Not that facts ever have any bearing on your pronouncements.)