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Jens1893
03-30-2006, 03:30 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Akcm4mScQfY_TuZWURD069hDubYF?slug=cr-meetings032906&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

ORLANDO, Fla. – Teams in search of a quarterback on the trade market could be in line for yet another young talent in the coming weeks: J.P. Losman.

Two league sources indicated Tuesday that Losman hasn't gained the confidence of the Buffalo Bills' new regime. Both sources expect the team to put the former first-round pick on the trade block before the start of the 2006 season – if he isn't already there.

Bills general manager Marv Levy declared the quarterback position an open race last week after signing Craig Nall to a three-year contract, and it was widely believed the former Green Bay Packers reserve QB would compete with Losman for starting duties. But one personnel man familiar with the situation said he expects Levy to put out trade feelers for Losman in the coming weeks.

"I think it's going to be something that boils down to Nall as the No. 1 and (Kelly) Holcomb as the backup," he said. "If you went through the locker room and people were honest, (there would be) a lot of people who aren't sold on Losman as a leader."

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When asked if Losman could still win the support of Levy and teammates in the coming weeks, the source painted the situation as "doubtful."

"The biggest advocates of (Losman as a starter) are gone, but he's still a guy who has trade value," he said. "If Nall ends up being the starter and Holcomb is a solid backup you can rely on, why would you have Losman sitting at the bottom (of the depth chart) when you can still get something out there for him?"

The advocates that were mentioned are ex-general manager Tom Donahoe and ex-head coach Mike Mularkey. Interestingly, Mularkey is now the offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins – a team that is actively seeking a backup quarterback and exploring a possible trade for the Detroit Lions' Joey Harrington. However, the Dolphins also are looking for a veteran backup who has a generous amount of starting experience, and Losman doesn't seem to fit the profile.

If there is any inclination to move Losman, the Bills haven't shown it publicly – outside of bringing Nall in to vie for starting honors. New head coach Dick Jauron has been supportive and complimentary of Losman so far, and said Tuesday he's hoping Nall's acquisition will spur some healthy competition.

"(Losman has) had two years now to develop," Jauron said. "He had to play a lot last year. It was thrown on him early. It was a difficult situation to be in for a young guy. So he's got a real chance (to improve in his third year). He's got all that physical talent. He can run. He's got a strong arm. He's a smart guy. He's not afraid to work. He's got a lot of upside to him. We've got to give him a chance to get it out. Hopefully those other guys competing will force the hand a little bit and make them all better."

"(Nall) obviously doesn't have a lot of playing time. But when he's played he's performed well. He's been accurate with the football. He's a good decision maker. He's got experience. We're not teaching the guy how to play. All he has to do is transfer information. He should be able to step up and compete. He's got good size (6-foot-3, 230 pounds). I like his size – his height in the pocket. I like his demeanor. I like the way he handled himself in interviews. He's a very competitive guy. He believes he can be a starter and should be a starter."

Mile High Shack
03-30-2006, 03:35 PM
Losman is guaranteed!!!

Tommy: Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of ****. That's all it is. Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for right now, for your sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality item from me.

GonzoLays
03-30-2006, 03:38 PM
hmmm, could Buffalo be in the market for QB in the draft?

Jens1893
03-30-2006, 03:40 PM
hmmm, could Buffalo be in the market for QB in the draft?

Dumping a QB that cost you 2 first rounders after just thirteen starts must be some kind of record.

Billy Clyde Puckett
03-30-2006, 03:58 PM
Dumping a QB that cost you 2 first rounders after just thirteen starts must be some kind of record.

That makes the Buffalo pick of Losman about 5 times worse than the picks of Marcus Nash and Ted Gregory.

rbackfactory80
03-30-2006, 04:03 PM
I would trade BVP for him

Billy Clyde Puckett
03-30-2006, 04:04 PM
Has a reputation of a lazy, coach killing whiner.

Orange_Beard
03-30-2006, 04:10 PM
He can't be worth much.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-30-2006, 04:12 PM
Dumping a QB that cost you 2 first rounders after just thirteen starts must be some kind of record.

2?

clint7
03-30-2006, 04:12 PM
Ever heard him talk? It sounds like a scene from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Jens1893
03-30-2006, 04:18 PM
2?

A first and a second, sorry.

elsid13
03-30-2006, 04:20 PM
This news plus the yahoo report that the Bills don't want Ngata, mean a either Bunkly or Ngata might be there at 15.

From the yahoo NFl Section-

"Speaking of Buffalo, word in scouting circles is that the Bills are not targeting Oregon defensive tackle Haloti Ngata with the No. 8 selection in the draft. That's a surprise for those who thought he was a natural fit for Buffalo's pick (including yours truly). Apparently, Ngata doesn't fit Buffalo's plans in the Cover 2 defense. One scouting source indicated Tuesday that USC offensive tackle Winston Justice could be the Bills' true target in the first round. "
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsMdeDKMUVt58jXd5S86t2FDubYF?slug=cr-meetings032906&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

DrFate
03-30-2006, 04:58 PM
Donohoe shipped his 2nd and 5th round picks in 2004, plus his 1st round selection in 2005 for Dallas’ 1st rounder in 2004 (22nd overall) and used it to draft J.P. Losman from Tulane.

Paladin
03-30-2006, 04:59 PM
Bunkley, Pope and Stovall? That would be a great day. Followed by an RB in the fourth, and probably Omar Jacobs. But I digress.......

shaun514
03-30-2006, 05:39 PM
I didn't like this trade at first, but it turned out well for the Cowboys.

Cowboys got Marcus Spears, Julius Jones, and TE Sean Ryan for JP Losman. Also, after the Bills acquired Losman, they cut Bledsoe, and he signed with the 'boys. So he is indirectly tied to this trade also.

eddie mac
03-30-2006, 05:52 PM
This news plus the yahoo report that the Bills don't want Ngata, mean a either Bunkly or Ngata might be there at 15.

From the yahoo NFl Section-

"Speaking of Buffalo, word in scouting circles is that the Bills are not targeting Oregon defensive tackle Haloti Ngata with the No. 8 selection in the draft. That's a surprise for those who thought he was a natural fit for Buffalo's pick (including yours truly). Apparently, Ngata doesn't fit Buffalo's plans in the Cover 2 defense. One scouting source indicated Tuesday that USC offensive tackle Winston Justice could be the Bills' true target in the first round. "
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsMdeDKMUVt58jXd5S86t2FDubYF?slug=cr-meetings032906&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Still leaves the Browns and Eagles who may take a DT.

ludo21
03-30-2006, 05:57 PM
Still leaves the Browns and Eagles who may take a DT.


inching closer to getting the best possible 2 DT tho!!!:wiggle:

24champ
03-30-2006, 06:00 PM
Ever heard him talk? It sounds like a scene from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Bill: He's dead?
Mr. Ryan: So, what you're telling me, essentially, is that Napoleon was a short dead dude.
Bill: Yeah.
Ted: You totally blew it, dude.
Mr. Ryan: Ted, stand up.
Ted: Stand up?
Mr. Ryan: Yes, Son. Stand up.
[Ted stands]
Mr. Ryan: Now, who was Joan of Arc?
Ted: [pauses] Noah's Wife.
[laughter, then bell]


That was a good movie, bogus journey was funny too

elsid13
03-30-2006, 06:03 PM
Still leaves the Browns and Eagles who may take a DT.


The Browns are going defense line, at this point it Bunkly but if the Ngata is on the board who knows. I wonder if the Bill are interested in trading down, since Justice will be around at 15.

FantomForce
03-30-2006, 07:29 PM
I would trade BVP for him
WTF are you serious Losman has proved himself to be a loser, the bills suck and he is the #1 reason that is why they want him out, the bills would be better off if the still had Flutie at the helm. I would take Doug Flutie over Lost man any day!!!

Crowpointer
03-30-2006, 07:36 PM
WTF are you serious Losman has proved himself to be a loser, the bills suck and he is the #1 reason that is why they want him out, the bills would be better off if the still had Flutie at the helm. I would take Doug Flutie over Lost man any day!!!
Flutie could at least dropkick. Bring back Flutie Flakes !! Hey at least we got our #1 from Donahoe for Drew before he was shipped off to Dallas.

azbroncfan
03-30-2006, 07:38 PM
Still leaves the Browns and Eagles who may take a DT.
Does anyone think eagles will go WR in draft?

-Slap-
03-30-2006, 09:18 PM
Dumping a QB that cost you 2 first rounders after just thirteen starts must be some kind of record.
The incredible thing is the scouts at the Combine nicknamed this fool "Spicoli" after his team interviews and Buffalo still traded up to get him. Now they're questioning his leadership. Gee, do ya think?

rbackfactory80
03-30-2006, 09:30 PM
WTF are you serious Losman has proved himself to be a loser, the bills suck and he is the #1 reason that is why they want him out, the bills would be better off if the still had Flutie at the helm. I would take Doug Flutie over Lost man any day!!!

Yeah dude I am. Sorry it was such an out there thing to say. I forgot Van Pelt was the offenses secret weapon. To tell you the truth I would take Flutie over either of them.