Randy Johnson's Daughter calls him out.

[Atlas]

Brushback pitch

Randy's love child blasts Yankee for shunning her

By NANCY DILLON in Langley, Wash., and DAVE GOLDINER in New York

SoCals Link:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/story/403936p-342083c.html

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Standing at 6-feet-1, the love child of Randy Johnson, Heather Roszell, says 'it hurts' that the Yankee ace is suing her mom, Laurel Roszell (at right, in their home).

Randy Johnson's teenage love child broke her silence yesterday - saying "it hurts" that the Yankees superstar has shunned her and is playing legal hardball with her mother.
Heather Roszell, 16, has never spoken to her millionaire dad and says her letters to him have mostly gone unanswered over the years.

"I'm not sure I even want to see him after what he's putting my mom through," said Roszell, a willowy, 6-foot-1 blond. "And I just don't think it's fair for children not to have a relationship with their parents."

The poised teen sat next to her mother, Laurel Roszell, in their airy redwood home framed by floor-to-ceiling windows overlooking a lake in Washington State.

She hasn't watched her flamethrowing father's games on TV in years because it's too painful for her.

"I just don't like to watch him at all," said Heather Roszell, who once played basketball and volleyball.

"I don't have a relationship with him. It's upsetting."

The teen admitted she has done some research on Johnson's four other children, and said she would love to meet her half brothers and -sisters.

She even said that she might come to New York - but only if Johnson invited her to meet his other children.

"I would want to meet them, just so they know that I'm actually their sister," Heather said. "It's nice to know that I have other blood out there."

The existence of the Big Unit's love child was a well-kept secret for years, and Heather said she had only told her best friend about her famous dad.

But all that changed when Johnson, who makes $16 million a year, sued Laurel Roszell last month for less than $100,000 in back child-care payments.

Johnson, 42, has paid $5,000 a month in child support since 1997, but apparently objected when his ex-girlfriend asked for additional money to buy Heather a car and pay for community college costs.

He fired back by demanding she repay more than $70,000 in money earmarked for his daughter's day care, plus interest.

Johnson said in a statement Monday that he has met his financial obligations to his daughter and has worked to ensure she has a bright future.

At spring training camp yesterday, the 6-foot-10 southpaw told reporters: "It's a situation that my family has known about the whole time and just move on from here. It's a family matter so I just tend to keep it private."

Laurel Roszell said she had no regrets about dating Johnson in the late '80s when she was working at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California and he was a rookie with the Montreal Expos.

But she branded him a "hypocrite" for allegedly nickel-anddiming her and, even worse, refusing to communicate with their daughter.

"Randy hasn't really acknowledged her, that she's even alive," said Laurel Roszell, 46, who is married with another son. "He doesn't ask about her. It's very hard for her. It's sad."

Since the news hit the headlines yesterday, Heather has had to fend off prying questions from classmates and the curious stares of strangers.

"I don't like having to explain to people why I don't have a relationship with him," she said. "I don't like trying to explain my whole life in, like, 10 minutes."

Heather, who plans to go to college after graduating from high school next year, choked up as she said she had come to terms with a life never knowing her father.

"I just know that my mom is a really strong person, and she's going to take care of me," she said, blinking back tears.

Even after years of bitterness, Laurel Roszell said she still hopes Johnson will have a change of heart and reach out to his daughter. "It's her biological father," the mom said. "How could she say no?"

[Atlas]

But all that changed when Johnson, who makes $16 million a year, sued Laurel Roszell last month for less than $100,000 in back child-care payments.

What a sleazbag. He always looked like a jerk to me.

[PatsWin2002]

Randy definitely has one of those faces that shouldn't have reproduced. :)

[Orange_Beard]

The Big Mullet.

[DomCasual]

I wondered what Randy Johnson's spawn might look like.

It's a small picture, but it was about what I expected.

He's a scumbag.

[yavoon]

someone's an asshole!

[PatsWin2002]

If he'd stayed in Seattle this story is probably never heard.........

[24champ]

Johnson, 42, has paid $5,000 a month in child support since 1997, but apparently objected when his ex-girlfriend asked for additional money to buy Heather a car and pay for community college costs.

He fired back by demanding she repay more than $70,000 in money earmarked for his daughter's day care, plus interest

What a jagoff! I mean here is a guy who makes 16 million a year throwing a friggin baseball every 5 or so days if he is even healthy! If I was a red sox fan I would go around collecting money for the daughter's education and her new car. That would make Randy and the rest of the yankees look like complete jagoffs that they are.

[-Slap-]

Very appropriate that Big Unit is synonymous with giant prick. I hope he takes a line drive off the orbital bone.

[Orange_Beard]

Randy definitely has one of those faces that shouldn't have reproduced. :)


Larry Bird had the same deal going, Did you ever see the picture of his daughter?
See looks just like him.

[Swedish Extrovert]

He looks like white trash.... he IS white trash that makes millions!

[PatsWin2002]

Larry Bird had the same deal going, Did you ever see the picture of his daughter?
See looks just like him.

That is an excellent point.

I don't know who knew what and when, but I didn't know Larry had a daughter until I saw his SportsCentury profile on ESPN.

I'm almost 39 and have been in the Boston area my whole life. It was not common knowledge I assure you.

[-Slap-]

That is an excellent point.

I don't know who knew what and when, but I didn't know Larry had a daughter until I saw his SportsCentury profile on ESPN.

I'm almost 39 and have been in the Boston area my whole life. It was not common knowledge I assure you.
Celtic haters knew.

[Bronco LB 59]

Very appropriate that Big Unit is synonymous with giant prick. I hope he takes a line drive off the orbital bone.

I am trying hard not to crack up here at work.

[Clockwork Orange]

So Johnson's basic attitude is, "I've fulfilled my financial obligations to this child and thus I've done all I need to do."

Into the bin with the rest of the scumbags he goes.

[Bronx33]

For once can karma step in and do the right thing to one of these over payed homo athletes.

[watermock]

I'm sure that they could of handled a car at 5k per month, but the real tragedy is that he's never emotionally reached out to her. He's made what, 100 million or so?

What an assinine reaction. All the jerk had to do was show up with a shiny ES300 Lexus and this wouldn't of gotten ink. If he didn't want to show up, the dealership would of delivered it. That's totally pathetic behavior for a "man" of his means.

[Breck Bronc]

For once can karma step in and do the right thing to one of these over payed homo athletes.If he were a homo I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have this problem.

[WABronco]

What a sleazbag. He always looked like a jerk to me.

He is a jerk...

He was a good pitcher, but he is a jerk.

[OrangeShadow]

guys a complete DICK head.

[TDmvp]

Hes a over the hill over paid ass ^^hole , who sence comen to N.Y. hes been nothing but a waste .... from the pushing the camra guy his first day in NY ... to his crap record and performance on the mound ... Typical Yanks throw X millions at a over the hill starter, people like this guy is just a nother reason to hate basesball...

[broncos love]

I have never liked his arrogant, big headed ass. Karma ; Randy its a bitch and you will get yours.

[Atlas]

So Johnson's basic attitude is, "I've fulfilled my financial obligations to this child and thus I've done all I need to do."

Into the bin with the rest of the scumbags he goes.

Not only that he is sueing this girls mother for $100,000 and he makes $16 million a year!!!!

[gunns]

What an absolute piece of garbage! Making 16 mil, suing the mother, but the biggest impact is what he has done to that poor girls head and she's his own flesh and blood. About as low as an incestuous father.

[Spider]

gives guys a bad name ... if I saw Randy Johnson broke down on the side of the road out in the middle of nowhere , I wouldnt hit a brake 1 to help him ........

[watermock]

I'm relatively poor but gave my kid a classic convertible. If he can't buy his daughter a car, he's a POS.

Spider is strugling with premie triplets and this guy can't afford a car for his daughter? The stupidity of athletes never fail to amaze me. Now it's inked in the press, and worse, he's suing her mother? I'm not saying she isn't getting paid for laid, 5K A Month isn't peanuts, but man. The Big UInit probably thinks that 5K a moth is enough to get a car, but enough with this.

[spdirty]

gives guys a bad name ... if I saw Randy Johnson broke down on the side of the road out in the middle of nowhere , I wouldnt hit a brake 1 to help him ........

Id pretend he was a cat.:devil:

[DBroncos4life]

I bet it was hard for year to afford a car with the 60 K a year she was getting in child support. Even more so when you stop and think she is just now turning 16 and she was getting 60k a year for the last 9 years. Thats half a mill right there and she can't buy her girl a car? Does she work? Hell hard working adults don't get 60k a year and she gets that just for a kid. Don't get me wrong it sounds like he isn't being cool about it but what the hell did the mother do with all that money? I mean **** my father paid 400 bucks a month for 18 years for me and my bro. My mother seemed to make it ok and she never once thought about asking for more even though she knew she could.

[-Slap-]

I bet it was hard for year to afford a car with the 60 K a year she was getting in child support. Even more so when you stop and think she is just now turning 16 and she was getting 60k a year for the last 9 years. Thats half a mill right there and she can't buy her girl a car? Does she work? Hell hard working adults don't get 60k a year and she gets that just for a kid. Don't get me wrong it sounds like he isn't being cool about it but what the hell did the mother do with all that money? I mean **** my father paid 400 bucks a month for 18 years for me and my bro. My mother seemed to make it ok and she never once thought about asking for more even though she knew she could.
See, because Randy Johnson chose to raise most of his children in the kind of lifestyle befitting a multi millionaire, its okay that he treated this child like a wadded up Kleenex.

[-Slap-]

Not only that he is sueing this girls mother for $100,000 and he makes $16 million a year!!!!
This is the most amazing part of this story. This girl, whose paternity Johnson contested for six years, and for whom he paid zero child support between ages 9-16, wasn't even telling anyone he was her father. She was so heartbroken that he wanted nothing to do with her, she tried to avoid thinking about him.

The only reason this story went public is because the petty heartless bastard sued this woman. Now the New York media is going to kill him every day for weeks. He was the same moron who threatened a cameraman his first minute out of a taxicab in Manhattan as a Yankee, so they already hate his guts.

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[Clockwork Orange]

I bet it was hard for year to afford a car with the 60 K a year she was getting in child support. Even more so when you stop and think she is just now turning 16 and she was getting 60k a year for the last 9 years. Thats half a mill right there and she can't buy her girl a car? Does she work? Hell hard working adults don't get 60k a year and she gets that just for a kid. Don't get me wrong it sounds like he isn't being cool about it but what the hell did the mother do with all that money? I mean **** my father paid 400 bucks a month for 18 years for me and my bro. My mother seemed to make it ok and she never once thought about asking for more even though she knew she could.

So the fact that Randy Johnson mailed her $60,000 per year makes up for him wanting nothing to do with his daughter? What the **** ever.

I don't care about the money aspect of this whole thing, he's a piece of **** for acting as if so long as he made his monthly payments, he was clear of all parental responsibilities. **** him.

[-Slap-]

People always freak because a rich person is ordered to pay a large sum in child support, but they should ask themselves a question. Why should a child be raised with different financial advantages just because the non custodial parent has chosen to abdicate their emotional responsibility to that child?

Many of these athletes leave litters of children strewn across the country already, despite getting tagged with high child support judgements. If the Gary Sheffields and Shawn Kemps are churning out a half a dozen illegitimate kids now, how many do you think we would see if they were paying $400 a month for each kid? They would be able to start their own leagues.

[Atlas]

I bet it was hard for year to afford a car with the 60 K a year she was getting in child support. Even more so when you stop and think she is just now turning 16 and she was getting 60k a year for the last 9 years. Thats half a mill right there and she can't buy her girl a car? Does she work? Hell hard working adults don't get 60k a year and she gets that just for a kid. Don't get me wrong it sounds like he isn't being cool about it but what the hell did the mother do with all that money? I mean **** my father paid 400 bucks a month for 18 years for me and my bro. My mother seemed to make it ok and she never once thought about asking for more even though she knew she could.

Johnson Makes $16 mill a year!!

The real travesty isn't the money but how he is just a schmuck. Johnson belongs in the NBA where that kind of stuff is cool.

[DBroncos4life]

See, because Randy Johnson chose to raise most of his children in the kind of lifestyle befitting a multi millionaire, its okay that he treated this child like a wadded up Kleenex.
no but it doesn't mean her mom should blow all the money and then go opps well we can always ask for more. My father makes less a year then what she makes gets in child support. He has kids from 25 on down to 1 and for the kids of age, they always had a car, he always helped us out with college, and he has always done the little things to make sure we are feed and have clothes on our backs. My step father works 60 plus hours a week, he is now trying to start a buisness on his own. He does make more then what she gets in child support but he does WORK for it. My mother and him together make about 40 to 50 K more a year then she does and they managed to build a 350K house own their own, they bought new cars and trucks a few years ago, we have 3 classic cars and all that other jazz. My point is she should have more then enough money from him for her daughter to get a car and go to college.

As a father I couldn't imagine not wanting to have anything to do with your child but thats me. I love my son more then anything and if I should never see my wife again I still would want to be in my sons life. It should however be pretty clear that he doesn't feel the same way about his daughter. I don't know why but he doesn't. That still does't give his wife the right to claim that she can't afford a car on the amount of money she is getting. It appears lowlife on her part. Just because he has money does't mean his ex should get a free pass in life. Sorry if I think people like her are just as bad as him. I mean for christ shake it must be rough to try and raise a kid on 5 grand a month. The sueing is a little ****ed up, but so is the 70k she spent in day care, but Im sure the media is giving us all the facts so lucky for us we now know everthing about the story.

[Atlas]

no but it doesn't mean her mom should blow all the money and then go opps well we can always ask for more. My father makes less a year then what she makes gets in child support. He has kids from 25 on down to 1 and for the kids of age, they always had a car, he always helped us out with college, and he has always done the little things to make sure we are feed and have clothes on our backs. My step father works 60 plus hours a week, he is now trying to start a buisness on his own. He does make more then what she gets in child support but he does WORK for it. My mother and him together make about 40 to 50 K more a year then she does and they managed to build a 350K house own their own, they bought new cars and trucks a few years ago, we have 3 classic cars and all that other jazz. My point is she should have more then enough money from him for her daughter to get a car and go to college.

As a father I couldn't imagine not wanting to have anything to do with your child but thats me. I love my son more then anything and if I should never see my wife again I still would want to be in my sons life. It should however be pretty clear that he doesn't feel the same way about his daughter. I don't know why but he doesn't. That still does't give his wife the right to claim that she can't afford a car on the amount of money she is getting. It appears lowlife on her part. Just because he has money does't mean his ex should get a free pass in life. Sorry if I think people like her are just as bad as him. I mean for christ shake it must be rough to try and raise a kid on 5 grand a month. The sueing is a little ****ed up, but so is the 70k she spent in day care, but Im sure the media is giving us all the facts so lucky for us we now know everthing about the story.

Again maybe the Mom wouldn't be asking for a car if Johnson actually acknowldege his daughter and maybe wanted to get to know her. The money isn't even an issue beside the fact that Johnson is sueing her for $100,000 which is basically walking around money for him. This is redicules.

[KCbroncos]

Played blackjack beside him a few years back at the Excalibur. The trailer trash was wearing a nasty old flannel shirt and betting the absolute minimum on every hand.
Not sure what he's doing with his money but he's not spending it on clothes or personal hygiene let alone his own kids.

[watermock]

Excaliber? that place is a half step above Circus Circus from my memory. That place was too tacky even for me. How these jocks manage to blow their money like water continually amazes me. He's bidding low because he's lost his ass several times but won't stop is my guess. Hey there is always more right? hey Randy, what ya going to do when the well runs dry?

[Mediator12]

I think most people are missing what is really going on here. This is about the relationship between the Daughter and Johnson. All the facts laid out are the presenting problems in this case, but this is a classic illegitimate child trying desperately to reach an unsympathetic father. I see this way too often in practice.

Johnson is embarassed over his indiscretion and is using multiple defense mechanisms to alienate and push her further away. All she wants is to know the father who constantly has denied her existence. The interaction has escalated to the point where Johnson is now suing the mother to make a point. Both sides are acting upon emotional impulses instead of seeking legitimate counseling. Neither is going to "win" this argument until the real issues come to the table.

[DBroncos4life]

Again maybe the Mom wouldn't be asking for a car if Johnson actually acknowldege his daughter and maybe wanted to get to know her. The money isn't even an issue beside the fact that Johnson is sueing her for $100,000 which is basically walking around money for him. This is redicules.
Not everyone that fathers a child wants to be a part of that childs life. Why that is I don't know. Really there is no law other then child support that forces someone to be a part of her life. It sucks but thats life. This happens to thousands of other childern and they get nothing from their fathers, now thats a story. Betty Sue working 3 jobs just so her kids can eat and go to college while the father of her childern give her nothing, breaks my heart more then this. My point is he has given her a nice middle class life, while that might not be enough in some peoples eyes remember he wasn't making 16 mill a year when the courts or whoever decided that 5K a month was enough in child support. She has the right to go back to court to get more, though. Also if she had a job that gave her 40K a year she is doing much better then most hard working people in the USA, and she should be able to afford some type of car without depending on someone that doesn't want to have anything to do with her. I just hope that her mother has found a nice guy to be her father instead of RJ and he teachs her better.
We don't know the whole story here, but youre right it sounds like he is a real nut job. I believe that he along with every other athlete in the world are pretty much just that, nut jobs. Too many of them have egos and they don't seem to have the same make up as the real people of the world. Any ways lord only knows why he is sueing her, it sounds crazy but hell maybe he found out that chick used it to improve her looks and get bigger boobs instead of child care.

[watermock]

I commented on this earlier Mediator, and your right. It's bad enough to be a bastard son, but a love child girl is inexcusable. Countersuing her mother is even worse. It's irrehensible and shocking. As I stated, he could just sign a check for a new Lexus. But that isn't what she is looking for. I have been divorced for almost 20 years but my son can find me 24/7 or a relative. I've taken him on a cruise to the Bahamas, Disney World ect, the last Rockies game at Mile High, Paramount Studios, Destin Florida, gave him a car (apparently the Big Prick can't afford that but I could0. It wasn't new, but it's a classic 5.0 ragtop. I'm not a great father from afar, but damn dude...your a multimillianaire and you haven't EVER called your own little girl? it doesn't matter what happed with your little fling, that's your child assface.

[watermock]

Not everyone that fathers a child wants to be a part of that childs life. Why that is I don't know. Really there is no law other then child support that forces someone to be a part of her life. It sucks but thats life. This happens to thousands of other childern and they get nothing from their fathers, now thats a story. Betty Sue working 3 jobs just so her kids can eat and go to college while the father of her childern give her nothing, breaks my heart more then this. My point is he has given her a nice middle class life, while that might not be enough in some peoples eyes remember he wasn't making 16 mill a year when the courts or whoever decided that 5K a month was enough in child support. She has the right to go back to court to get more, though. Also if she had a job that gave her 40K a year she is doing much better then most hard working people in the USA, and she should be able to afford some type of car without depending on someone that doesn't want to have anything to do with her. I just hope that her mother has found a nice guy to be her father instead of RJ and he teachs her better.
We don't know the whole story here, but youre right it sounds like he is a real nut job. I believe that he along with every other athlete in the world are pretty much just that, nut jobs. Too many of them have egos and they don't seem to have the same make up as the real people of the world. Any ways lord only knows why he is sueing her, it sounds crazy but hell maybe he found out that chick used it to improve her looks and get bigger boobs instead of child care.

Unfortuately, the father often doesn't have a clue where his money is going. She could be a crack whore for all he knows. Noone checks on the kid, She could go get a nose and boob job for all we know. That's the other side. In all fairness, seems 5k per month isn't starvation. 4 months and she can buy a new car.

The thing is you can tell by the article she's emotionally hurt, and to be vindictive with a lawyer is idiotic and redneck. He will spend 10k on a lawyer that likely will lose when he could of got her a nice used car for that. I can't believe it.

[watermock]

Not everyone that fathers a child wants to be a part of that childs life. Why that is I don't know. Really there is no law other then child support that forces someone to be a part of her life. It sucks but thats life. This happens to thousands of other childern and they get nothing from their fathers, now thats a story. Betty Sue working 3 jobs just so her kids can eat and go to college while the father of her childern give her nothing, breaks my heart more then this. My point is he has given her a nice middle class life, while that might not be enough in some peoples eyes remember he wasn't making 16 mill a year when the courts or whoever decided that 5K a month was enough in child support. She has the right to go back to court to get more, though. Also if she had a job that gave her 40K a year she is doing much better then most hard working people in the USA, and she should be able to afford some type of car without depending on someone that doesn't want to have anything to do with her. I just hope that her mother has found a nice guy to be her father instead of RJ and he teachs her better.
We don't know the whole story here, but youre right it sounds like he is a real nut job. I believe that he along with every other athlete in the world are pretty much just that, nut jobs. Too many of them have egos and they don't seem to have the same make up as the real people of the world. Any ways lord only knows why he is sueing her, it sounds crazy but hell maybe he found out that chick used it to improve her looks and get bigger boobs instead of child care.

Unfortuately, the father often doesn't have a clue where his money is going. She could be a crack whore for all he knows. Noone checks on the kid, She could go get a nose and boob job for all we know. That's the other side. In all fairness, seems 5k per month isn't starvation. 4 months and she can buy a new car.

The thing is you can tell by the article she's emotionally hurt, and to be vindictive with a lawyer is idiotic and redneck. He will spend 10k on a lawyer that likely will lose when he could of got her a nice used car for that. I can't believe it.

So what does that ass do? He SUES the mother of his daughter. Unreal.

[Mediator12]

Not everyone that fathers a child wants to be a part of that childs life. Why that is I don't know. Really there is no law other then child support that forces someone to be a part of her life. It sucks but thats life. This happens to thousands of other childern and they get nothing from their fathers, now thats a story. Betty Sue working 3 jobs just so her kids can eat and go to college while the father of her childern give her nothing, breaks my heart more then this. My point is he has given her a nice middle class life, while that might not be enough in some peoples eyes remember he wasn't making 16 mill a year when the courts or whoever decided that 5K a month was enough in child support. She has the right to go back to court to get more, though. Also if she had a job that gave her 40K a year she is doing much better then most hard working people in the USA, and she should be able to afford some type of car without depending on someone that doesn't want to have anything to do with her. I just hope that her mother has found a nice guy to be her father instead of RJ and he teachs her better.
We don't know the whole story here, but youre right it sounds like he is a real nut job. I believe that he along with every other athlete in the world are pretty much just that, nut jobs. Too many of them have egos and they don't seem to have the same make up as the real people of the world. Any ways lord only knows why he is sueing her, it sounds crazy but hell maybe he found out that chick used it to improve her looks and get bigger boobs instead of child care.


A lot of what you say is the expectations of society and our culture. As for what is going on, see my earlier post. This case presents textbook for the presenting problems in this scenario.

The real deal here is that of the role of fathers and mothers in illegitimate circumstances. The societal norm is perceived to be one thing when it actually plays out more like this due to the adversarial nature of the court system. Divorce's can and usually are worse as both parents leverage the children against the other parent.

As for the Professional Athlete, I hope to someday get my chance to do some research in that area for my Ph.D. I am already in consultation with a few other Sports Psychologists and I am going to write my thesis on the overall effects of society, cultures, and environment for pro athletes success. I also wish to do some normative studies on the adjustment phase of becoming a pro football player someday that includes personality, character, and environment.

Finally, these actions are quite common when people use Lawyers to settle disputes instead of Counseling or mediation. It is beyond me that people wish to invest obscene amounts of money to hate each other more through the adversarial legal system than sit down and work out the details in an amicable way. Hate and anger are stronger emotions than forgiveness and reconciliation I guess. Hell most arguments around here prove that ;D

[TexanBob]

"And I just don't think it's fair for children not to have a relationship with their parents."

Life can be unfair, sweetie. Take advantage of what you've been given. Go get a softball scholarship.

[Mediator12]

Life can be unfair, sweetie. Take advantage of what you've been given. Go get a softball scholarship.

I have always been of the inclination that:

"If life is Unfair, then make it unfair in your own favor." ;)

Unfortunately, this can also be downright repressive in action too. Power struggles are unconscious as well.

[sgbfan]

Johnson, 42, has paid $5,000 a month in child support since 1997, but apparently objected when his ex-girlfriend asked for additional money to buy Heather a car and pay for community college costs.

Not taking away from the fact that Johnson is a scumbag, but what kind of woman can't buy her daughter a car and pay for CC with an extra 60K a year?
I am one of 6 kids and we never had more than 40K a year. She doesn't seem to classy either.
Johnson is still scum for suing her.

[DBroncos4life]

Not taking away from the fact that Johnson is a scumbag, but what kind of woman can't buy her daughter a car and pay for CC with an extra 60K a year?
I am one of 6 kids and we never had more than 40K a year. She doesn't seem to classy either.
Johnson is still scum for suing her.
Thats pretty much my thought. I talked to lady today that ran a daycare. She has 14 kids in it and she didn't make 50k a year (thats for all 14 kids!!!!), but the daycare that RJs daughter went to got 70k to watch her? Maybe Ma could have found a cheaper daycare and saved some money for a car. Something tells me this isn't just about a 8 or 10 grand car, if she can't afford it. Anyways like I said I don't think sports figures and such break things down the way normal people do, so that could be his problem.

[bendog]

This is the most amazing part of this story. This girl, whose paternity Johnson contested for six years, and for whom he paid zero child support between ages 9-16, wasn't even telling anyone he was her father. She was so heartbroken that he wanted nothing to do with her, she tried to avoid thinking about him.

The only reason this story went public is because the petty heartless bastard sued this woman. Now the New York media is going to kill him every day for weeks. He was the same moron who threatened a cameraman his first minute out of a taxicab in Manhattan as a Yankee, so they already hate his guts.

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Ain't NY great. This guy is gonna get crucified. He's gonna get booed in the Bambino's house. I imagine the mother let the 0-9 years go and has no longer any claim for the child, but it's a shame she can't. Be great if the request for additional support could get to a jury, but I'm sure its just a judge's call.

[broncocalijohn]

I bet it was hard for year to afford a car with the 60 K a year she was getting in child support. Even more so when you stop and think she is just now turning 16 and she was getting 60k a year for the last 9 years. Thats half a mill right there and she can't buy her girl a car? Does she work? Hell hard working adults don't get 60k a year and she gets that just for a kid. Don't get me wrong it sounds like he isn't being cool about it but what the hell did the mother do with all that money? I mean **** my father paid 400 bucks a month for 18 years for me and my bro. My mother seemed to make it ok and she never once thought about asking for more even though she knew she could.

BINGO! I couldnt find a post that rips the chick until yours many posts down. What did she do with all that money from Randy since she started getting PAID! Oh wait, she lives on a lake in Washington. I guess much of the money went to the beautiful house. I am not condoning his action as a father or lack of fatherhood. I question all the golddiggers that think that since they got pregnant from a ball player, it turns to PAY DAY $$$. While my Dad paid about the same amount as the post i am responding too, it was enough to pay the bills during the month (My mom got to keep the house therefore no move was needed). We will always be screwed with wimpy judges and attitudes like some of the men posters here about coughing up the $. He might have told her he didnt want to be a Father to begin with. Maybe she knew this long before the birth. Who knows. I dont like absentee fathers but he did what was ordered (court?). This chick is 6 foot one. She needs to get back in sports and get her scholarship. I got a 1984 Nissan 4 door Sentra as my first car that my Mom LOANED me $3000. Community College isnt that expensive. This 16 year old needs to get tough in this situation, look to the future w/o the Big Mullet and GET A FRICKING JOB! He is sueing probably because he was payiing for items that she never paid for herself. People wake up! Women dont need to prove what they spend the money on in child support custody battles. If you find out the kid isnt yours after a few years....TOUGH SH!T! You still pay. There are so many laws that screw guys in this situation. She got $5 K from this hick. Plenty enough to live on. I wonder why she didnt putsome of this money awayfor her car and school. I know, she needed that to pay for the gardner to make sure any branches didnt block her gorgeous lake view! It doesnt matter what he made or makes. They didnt have a life together. The payment is to SUPPORT THE CHILD. Anybody else got $5 k for their child. I doubt it. Men, buck up and stop acting like the gold diggers. You might be part of the problem why men get screwed in these situations. Remember, I am not condoning dead beat Dads or such. I dont believe in abortions, but women get that right. He probably told her to get one and she didnt want to do that. Women get that decision not the men. She might have known what she was getting herself into. Now, if people would just wear a damn condom or be on birth control this crap wouldnt be happening! Peace out and i know the replies are coming.....

[Mediator12]

BINGO! I couldnt find a post that rips the chick until yours many posts down. What did she do with all that money from Randy since she started getting PAID! Oh wait, she lives on a lake in Washington. I guess much of the money went to the beautiful house. I am not condoning his action as a father or lack of fatherhood. I question all the golddiggers that think that since they got pregnant from a ball player, it turns to PAY DAY $$$. While my Dad paid about the same amount as the post i am responding too, it was enough to pay the bills during the month (My mom got to keep the house therefore no move was needed). We will always be screwed with wimpy judges and attitudes like some of the men posters here about coughing up the $. He might have told her he didnt want to be a Father to begin with. Maybe she knew this long before the birth. Who knows. I dont like absentee fathers but he did what was ordered (court?). This chick is 6 foot one. She needs to get back in sports and get her scholarship. I got a 1984 Nissan 4 door Sentra as my first car that my Mom LOANED me $3000. Community College isnt that expensive. This 16 year old needs to get tough in this situation, look to the future w/o the Big Mullet and GET A FRICKING JOB! He is sueing probably because he was payiing for items that she never paid for herself. People wake up! Women dont need to prove what they spend the money on in child support custody battles. If you find out the kid isnt yours after a few years....TOUGH SH!T! You still pay. There are so many laws that screw guys in this situation. She got $5 K from this hick. Plenty enough to live on. I wonder why she didnt putsome of this money awayfor her car and school. I know, she needed that to pay for the gardner to make sure any branches didnt block her gorgeous lake view! It doesnt matter what he made or makes. They didnt have a life together. The payment is to SUPPORT THE CHILD. Anybody else got $5 k for their child. I doubt it. Men, buck up and stop acting like the gold diggers. You might be part of the problem why men get screwed in these situations. Remember, I am not condoning dead beat Dads or such. I dont believe in abortions, but women get that right. He probably told her to get one and she didnt want to do that. Women get that decision not the men. She might have known what she was getting herself into. Now, if people would just wear a damn condom or be on birth control this crap wouldnt be happening! Peace out and i know the replies are coming.....

That is one hell of an assumption without facts in evidence. While Plausible, it is quite bent to your inclination and experience. If your point was she may be getting hers for being a golddigger you may have missed the entire point.

[DBroncos4life]

That is one hell of an assumption without facts in evidence. While Plausible, it is quite bent to your inclination and experience. If your point was she may be getting hers for being a golddigger you may have missed the entire point.
I do find it ODD that they didn't make him pay for the first 7 years or whatever it was, inless they settled on something that wasn't reported in the story. I've never heard of anyone not having to pay back support.

[broncocalijohn]

That is one hell of an assumption without facts in evidence. While Plausible, it is quite bent to your inclination and experience. If your point was she may be getting hers for being a golddigger you may have missed the entire point.

I know the story has most to do with the feelings of the daughter. She got screwed in this whole thing, i understand that. She isnt getting hers unless she loses. I dont know the details why he is suing. Is it because she didnt put the money to child support as promised? If that is the case, then I DO hope she gets hers. No thread ever stays on direct topic. My point was not to bag necessary on the daughter (even though i did say she might need to get a job) or the child support court action, it was to blast the many men (and women) who thinks it is ok for someone to get $5k a month for child support when the man has never been with the child. It is an outrageous amount of money regardless of what the parent makes. It is child support. Needs of the child. IF she wants extra curricular activities in a foreign country or such, why should he pay. He should pay to raise her. Raising her at $5k for one child is obsured. I would love to see where it cost $60k a year to raise this girl. And I bet she wasnt making that type of money 9 years ago herself.

[Atlas]

My point is he has given her a nice middle class life, while that might not be enough in some peoples eyes remember he wasn't making 16 mill a year when the courts or whoever decided that 5K a month was enough in child support. She has the right to go back to court to get more, though. Also if she had a job that gave her 40K a year she is doing much better then most hard working people in the USA, and she should be able to afford some type of car without depending on someone that doesn't want to have anything to do with her.

Jesus Christ man, how old are you??? There is nothing more important IN THIS WOPRLD than your children. There isn't, Not your parents, your wife or your money.

Randy Johnson is a f*cking troll like thousands of other men out there. Stop making excuses for him. You only make yourself look more foolish.

[gunns]

no but it doesn't mean her mom should blow all the money and then go opps well we can always ask for more. My father makes less a year then what she makes gets in child support. He has kids from 25 on down to 1 and for the kids of age, they always had a car, he always helped us out with college, and he has always done the little things to make sure we are feed and have clothes on our backs. My step father works 60 plus hours a week, he is now trying to start a buisness on his own. He does make more then what she gets in child support but he does WORK for it. My mother and him together make about 40 to 50 K more a year then she does and they managed to build a 350K house own their own, they bought new cars and trucks a few years ago, we have 3 classic cars and all that other jazz. My point is she should have more then enough money from him for her daughter to get a car and go to college.

As a father I couldn't imagine not wanting to have anything to do with your child but thats me. I love my son more then anything and if I should never see my wife again I still would want to be in my sons life. It should however be pretty clear that he doesn't feel the same way about his daughter. I don't know why but he doesn't. That still does't give his wife the right to claim that she can't afford a car on the amount of money she is getting. It appears lowlife on her part. Just because he has money does't mean his ex should get a free pass in life. Sorry if I think people like her are just as bad as him. I mean for christ shake it must be rough to try and raise a kid on 5 grand a month. The sueing is a little ****ed up, but so is the 70k she spent in day care, but Im sure the media is giving us all the facts so lucky for us we now know everthing about the story.

You state that the mom shouldn't get a free pass. I don't believe she did, she raised the girl. I believe the article stated that she also had other kids, but I may be mistaken. And I don't believe it's just for a car but college which you cannot deny is expensive. I raised my 6 children single handedly with little child support but then my children weren't conceived from a multi millionaire. If they had been I would have wanted much better opportunities for them. There were many times they couldn't join sports activities because of a lack of money. Why should his other 4 children get that benefit and not her? 70K in child care? Yeah let's begrudge the mother for wanting the best for her child which is obviously not a consideration as far as Randy goes.

[baja]

I am trying hard not to crack up here at work.

Damn 52 it's 6:58 AM what'd work on a garbage truck? ;D

[baja]

I bet it was hard for year to afford a car with the 60 K a year she was getting in child support. Even more so when you stop and think she is just now turning 16 and she was getting 60k a year for the last 9 years. Thats half a mill right there and she can't buy her girl a car? Does she work? Hell hard working adults don't get 60k a year and she gets that just for a kid. Don't get me wrong it sounds like he isn't being cool about it but what the hell did the mother do with all that money? I mean **** my father paid 400 bucks a month for 18 years for me and my bro. My mother seemed to make it ok and she never once thought about asking for more even though she knew she could.

The point is you'd think any father would love to feel the joy of giving his 16 year old daughter her first car. You don't have kids do you.

[baja]

no but it doesn't mean her mom should blow all the money and then go opps well we can always ask for more. My father makes less a year then what she makes gets in child support. He has kids from 25 on down to 1 and for the kids of age, they always had a car, he always helped us out with college, and he has always done the little things to make sure we are feed and have clothes on our backs. My step father works 60 plus hours a week, he is now trying to start a buisness on his own. He does make more then what she gets in child support but he does WORK for it. My mother and him together make about 40 to 50 K more a year then she does and they managed to build a 350K house own their own, they bought new cars and trucks a few years ago, we have 3 classic cars and all that other jazz. My point is she should have more then enough money from him for her daughter to get a car and go to college.

As a father I couldn't imagine not wanting to have anything to do with your child but thats me. I love my son more then anything and if I should never see my wife again I still would want to be in my sons life. It should however be pretty clear that he doesn't feel the same way about his daughter. I don't know why but he doesn't. That still does't give his wife the right to claim that she can't afford a car on the amount of money she is getting. It appears lowlife on her part. Just because he has money does't mean his ex should get a free pass in life. Sorry if I think people like her are just as bad as him. I mean for christ shake it must be rough to try and raise a kid on 5 grand a month. The sueing is a little ****ed up, but so is the 70k she spent in day care, but Im sure the media is giving us all the facts so lucky for us we now know everthing about the story.

Dude the point you miss is this story doesn't have jack shiit to do with your family.

[Hogan11]

Ain't NY great. This guy is gonna get crucified. He's gonna get booed in the Bambino's house.

I'll believe that when I see it...these are Yankee fans we're talking about here, most of them excuse anything as long as the player is doing his job and getting wins for them (See such past guys like Giambi, Gooden, Strawberry, Steve Howe, etc.). I'll be absolutely shocked....shocked if he faces a house of boo birds @ Yankee Stadium heckling him when he pitches for the first time this season. Buy a Powerball ticket because you'll have a better chance at winning that before you'll ever see the above happen.

[Mediator12]

Jesus Christ man, how old are you??? There is nothing more important IN THIS WOPRLD than your children. There isn't, Not your parents, your wife or your money.

Randy Johnson is a ****ing troll like thousands of other men out there. Stop making excuses for him. You only make yourself look more foolish.

Sure atlas, but teaching them the realities of life comes into play here too. It is way more than obvious that Johnson does not want to be involved with this daughter. Nothing in the world can make him do it. But sometimes people use money as leverage and in this case I do not believe the financial demands have ANYTHING to do with it.

Money is a means to an end and can be a motiviating tool. It is apparent that the mother is using the financial responsibilities to keep the lines of communication open between daughter and Randy. Yes, going to court is a twisted way to do this, but I see it all the time. I could tell you some crazy stories of how desperate children and mothers do this. This is simply another case.

People see the money issues and can not get past the amounts sometimes. It is the same thing with these rediculous civil judgements handed out against corporations. People believe hurting their bottom line is the only way to get their attention sometimes. In this case, it forces Johnson to at least tacitly recognize the daughters existence however terribly it happens.

[baja]

Life can be unfair, sweetie. Take advantage of what you've been given. Go get a softball scholarship.

TexanBob (Raising the board's IQ) Not hardly.

[watermock]

There are alot of dads that struggle thru the emotional and financial burdens, and it's very true that ex wives can blow money on themselves instead of the child. My ex has always spent every dime on Andrew, but he wasn't getting 5k a month. Not anywhere close. He's now a journeyman electricitan learned ON THE JOB and will get his masters in a couple years. But I still GAVE him a car and offered to pay his tuition or arrange a student loan, but he told me he could get his masters quicker this way under foot, earning money in the real world. He's handsome and has a hottie and very well known in town. (south of Chefville), but he's no hick. Once he gets his masters, I will push him into other areas including engineering.

The point is, Johnson has no clue that this is a black eye on his integrity, regardless. Being a "love child" wasn't her decision either. I don't blame her for being bitter. The stone cold fact is he should of just gotten her a car and none of this would of come up at all. Countersuing is just plain idiotic.

Big Unit indeed.

[bendog]

At what point, if ever, will it dawn on his other children that but for the fact they didn't get his DNA when he shot off the first time, he'd treat them like crap? Maybe never. The rich are different, to steal a line from F.Scott Fitzgerald

[Tredici]

I know the story has most to do with the feelings of the daughter. She got screwed in this whole thing, i understand that. She isnt getting hers unless she loses. I dont know the details why he is suing. Is it because she didnt put the money to child support as promised? If that is the case, then I DO hope she gets hers. No thread ever stays on direct topic. My point was not to bag necessary on the daughter (even though i did say she might need to get a job) or the child support court action, it was to blast the many men (and women) who thinks it is ok for someone to get $5k a month for child support when the man has never been with the child. It is an outrageous amount of money regardless of what the parent makes. It is child support. Needs of the child. IF she wants extra curricular activities in a foreign country or such, why should he pay. He should pay to raise her. Raising her at $5k for one child is obsured. I would love to see where it cost $60k a year to raise this girl. And I bet she wasnt making that type of money 9 years ago herself.

These people live in a different financial strastophere than we do. The courts don't say well, the four children in his household get the benefit of a multi millionare father, but the one child in a different circumstance can get by on $250 a month. The court says all the kids have the right to the same lifestyle Dad has the means to offer.

It's that simple. And it is more than okay.

[DBroncos4life]

Jesus Christ man, how old are you??? There is nothing more important IN THIS WOPRLD than your children. There isn't, Not your parents, your wife or your money.

Randy Johnson is a ****ing troll like thousands of other men out there. Stop making excuses for him. You only make yourself look more foolish.
No ****, but that isn't something that seems to dawn on him. I guess you only read parts of my posts then, because Ive said that a number of times.

[bendog]

These people live in a different financial strastophere than we do. The courts don't say well, the four children in his household get the benefit of a multi millionare father, but the one child in a different circumstance can get by on $250 a month. The court says all the kids have the right to the same lifestyle Dad has the means to offer.

It's that simple. And it is more than okay.
Sad thing is that because Johnson is such a prick about this, the kid's support will end at some time depending on the law applicable. Typically 21 or when they go to work or stop college. Wonder how she'll turn out. Mom's obviously not totally stupid as she was working at Livermore when she and the prick were dating. Hope he dies without a will, so the kid can sue the estate for a share.

[DBroncos4life]

I find if funny that people here believe that sports figures think the way normal people do. Normal people don't get paid 10 times more then what they are worth. Normal people go to jail for things they do wrong. RJ is doing what is normal for him, while that might not be cool with the rest of the world its the way it is. I would do anything in the world to help my son, but thats how I was raised. I feel love for him I feel pain when he is hurt. The key is I FEEL something. Its clear that RJ doesn't feel anything. Maybe that came with the stress of his job, maybe its what his dad did to him. Im sorry if it comes off Im defending him, when really Im just sparking the topic. No one can make RJ care for the child but they can make him pay to child support for her. Oh and the car thing, I think its a bad idea for the mother to keep trying to force him to be a father. She remarried, and Im sure that guy is more of a father to her then RJ could ever be.

[baja]

I find if funny that people here believe that sports figures think the way normal people do. Normal people don't get paid 10 times more then what they are worth. Normal people go to jail for things they do wrong. RJ is doing what is normal for him, while that might not be cool with the rest of the world its the way it is. I would do anything in the world to help my son, but thats how I was raised. I feel love for him I feel pain when he is hurt. The key is I FEEL something. Its clear that RJ doesn't feel anything. Maybe that came with the stress of his job, maybe its what his dad did to him. Im sorry if it comes off Im defending him, when really Im just sparking the topic. No one can make RJ care for the child but they can make him pay to child support for her. Oh and the car thing, I think its a bad idea for the mother to keep trying to force him to be a father. She remarried, and Im sure that guy is more of a father to her then RJ could ever be.


Little girls have a special bond with their biological fathers, there is not logical explanation for it but it is there. I see it in my step daughter and in my biological daughter who was raised mostly by her mom.

[watermock]

Altho she could probably eat ramen to save up enough for a down payment on a car at 5k a month, he's got bad karma on this. I have absolutely no clue why he is suing and didn't just go get her a car to keep it out of the papers. His lawyer must be an absolute moron and is probably charging him more than a car would of cost. Look, I understand that 5k a month is plenty to eat lobster every day, but this shines a very bad light on the Big Unit. Oh well, this has been beaten to death. it's just such an odd story. Just write a check for the damn car and call her once in awhile Big Prick.

[Merlin]

Just to put the money in a context that is more in line with the avg person's pay. He gets paid $16M a yr. We will assume he has a bad accountant and only get $8M a yr after taxes, and he is suing for $100K. That is like someone who is getting $80,000/yr after taxes sues someone for $1000. ONE THOUSAND FREAKING DOLLARS. As mediator noted, the girl's actions are probably just another attempt at connecting with the father, and the father repays her by hitting the mother hard in a financial context.

BTW, it is irrelevant that he paid $60K a yr. He got off cheap. This money is for the child he is responsible for. He has totally abdicated the crucial responsibility of raising the child, and instead has provided a fraction of the support he gives his "legitimate" children. In the grand scheme of things, this child, whom he is RESPONSIBLE FOR, will receive less than one tenth the financial support his kids will probably receive for their whole lives, and her only crime was being born out of wedlock (I'm not so sure he would have treated her any better if she were from a divorce). This kid protected his privacy for all those yrs, and he has very interesting way of thanking her.

PS Pro Athletes do live in a different world. With a few exceptions, their whole life they were adulated and forgiven for any transgression (if the transgression was at all recognized). In a world lacking a moral compass, it is not surprising so many of them don't know which way points north.

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These people live in a different financial strastophere than we do. The courts don't say well, the four children in his household get the benefit of a multi millionare father, but the one child in a different circumstance can get by on $250 a month. The court says all the kids have the right to the same lifestyle Dad has the means to offer.

It's that simple. And it is more than okay.
And that is the bottom line.

[Traveler]

I still don't get the counter suit. Any father who pays child support knows that once the mother receives the money, she can do what she pleases with it. Most men in this situation have a problem in that there is almost no way to control what she does with the money.

If there was a way to make sure that the money was spent only on the childs needs and there was a way to verify it, this probably wouldn't be an issue. The only avenue to some sort of control is to prove she isn't providing for the needs of the child(ren).

There's more to this story than we all know. Johnson's retalitory action seems more of embarrassment. This is now a public matter rather than a private one. From the outside looking in, Johnson seems to be a dickhead! I would tend to feel more sympathy for the mother & daughter.

Someone mentioned earlier that the bond between the child and the biological parent is always there. There remains an emptiness that can't be filled by just providing financial support. Her statement that, "it's upsetting that she doesn't have a realtionship with him", should be more than enough to make Johnson wake the fcuk up and understand she's hurting inside.

My personal take on this is that if this was about money, her mother could have easily taken Johnson back to court and had the support amount adjusted to be in-line with his salary. Happens all the time, warranted or not. This was a cry from a daughter wanting know her father on a more personal level. To also know her brother and sisters too.

If it hurts this girl for what Johnson is "doing to her mother", it's even more deeply hurtful to her for not knowing her real father in a way most of us take for granted. She might not admit it, but it's there and it will affect the way she deals with all men for the rest of her life.

[baja]

I still don't get the counter suit. Any father who pays child support knows that once the mother receives the money, she can do what she pleases with it. Most men in this situation have a problem in that there is almost no way to control what she does with the money.

If there was a way to make sure that the money was spent only on the childs needs and there was a way to verify it, this probably wouldn't be an issue. The only avenue to some sort of control is to prove she isn't providing for the needs of the child(ren).

There's more to this story than we all know. Johnson's retalitory action seems more of embarrassment. This is now a public matter rather than a private one. From the outside looking in, Johnson seems to be a dickhead! I would tend to feel more sympathy for the mother & daughter.

Someone mentioned earlier that the bond between the child and the biological parent is always there. There remains an emptiness that can't be filled by just providing financial support. Her statement that, "it's upsetting that she doesn't have a realtionship with him", should be more than enough to make Johnson wake the fcuk up and understand she's hurting inside.

My personal take on this is that if this was about money, her mother could have easily taken Johnson back to court and had the support amount adjusted to be in-line with his salary. Happens all the time, warranted or not. This was a cry from a daughter wanting know her father on a more personal level. To also know her brother and sisters too.

If it hurts this girl for what Johnson is "doing to her mother", it's even more deeply hurtful to her for not knowing her real father in a way most of us take for granted. She might not admit it, but it's there and it will affect the way she deals with all men for the rest of her life.

Good post. That is the real issue here, abandonment!

[Merlin]

She might not admit it, but it's there and it will affect the way she deals with all men for the rest of her life.
That is the saddest part. This girl is being scarred, and to what degree it is difficult to know. The article does state her mother married later, hopefully her stepfather helped mitigate the effects of her father's "care".

[watermock]

This is my last comment I think, and it's time to bury this. This mom better be ready to live in the real world in two years. It's possible that she might continued to be supported or be emancipated at 18. I also agree that an emotional detachment is what she's feeling. If the Big Penis was embarrased, what way to show it. Just because his daughter says she doesn't care if she sees him doesn't mean she doesn't, but it would be work. It's not the child's fault he wasn't carefull and concieved her. Enough of this tho. I think this is mean spirited on all fronts. The funniest thing is I think he will wind up paying more to his lawyer than his daughter.

[bendog]

http://www.rgj.com/news/printstory.php?id=44564

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http://www.rgj.com/news/printstory.php?id=44564
Great link, Bendog. Its such a shame that the strike in 94 cost Williams a shot at 61. He was ahead of Maris' pace when they shut things down.