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Clockwork Orange
04-22-2006, 02:16 AM
I want to see his whole lower right leg just fall off while he's chasing down a ball...right at the knee. That'd be funny as hell.

He doesn't even move fast enough to lose his cap.

-Slap-
04-22-2006, 02:18 AM
He doesn't even move fast enough to lose his cap.
His cap is stretched so tight over his bulbous melon that they probably have to pry it off with a butterknife.

Bronco LB 59
04-22-2006, 03:34 PM
Why did you drop Bedard, 52?

I thought I could sneak him back through waivers. Dumb move, nevertheless.

SouthStndJunkie
04-22-2006, 11:43 PM
My Tigers are off to a nice start at 11-7.

Jim Leyland was a great choice for manager. He grew up in a little town about 10 miles from where I live.

I tell you what....rookie pitcher Joel Zumaya has some flat out nasty wicked stuff.

WABronco
04-22-2006, 11:46 PM
I just dumped Guardado for Orvella. Yessssss...

WABronco
04-22-2006, 11:53 PM
My Tigers are off to a nice start at 11-7.

Jim Leyland was a great choice for manager. He grew up in a little town about 10 miles from where I live.

I tell you what....rookie pitcher Joel Zumaya has some flat out nasty wicked stuff.

The M's have the worst offense that the world has ever known. Ichiro isn't trying anymore, Lopez is in the wrong spot, Sexson is a k machine, Everett is a no. 6/7 hitter, Beltre is absolutely lost right now, Reed is underachieving. OMG!?!?!? If not for Rafael Soriano, Daisuke Matsuzaka in the offseason, Adam Jones, Shin Soo Choo, Jeff Clement, and Bobby Livingston I don't know what I'd have to look forward to.

Meche is an absolute DUMP. I can't believe your lineup didn't shell his ass into the Pacific. That may have been the luckiest performance I've seen in a while.

Ughhhhh!!!

Zumaya scares hitters ****less. They are scared to death of that heater, and then he drops that breaking ball and their knees buckle like a rubber hose. Lopez is one of the best fastball hitters out there, but that breaking ball is unhittable.

Bob's your Information Minister
04-23-2006, 12:05 AM
Rangers had a 5-2 lead tonight before Cordero blew the save with a 3-run jack.

Fortunately, Michael Young dribbled a single up the middle to plate the winning run in the bottom of the 9th.

DBroncos4life
04-23-2006, 04:14 PM
Giambi playing unreal ball right now. Helton went down and I glad I have Giambi.
:~ohyah!:

ro_50
04-23-2006, 04:17 PM
So much for the Indians great April, freaking lose two out of three to the Royals, the worst team in baseball.

Now 10-9. Very frustrating and frankly, embarrassing.........

Bronco LB 59
04-23-2006, 05:20 PM
Meche is an absolute DUMP. I can't believe your lineup didn't shell his ass into the Pacific. That may have been the luckiest performance I've seen in a while.

Ughhhhh!!!


I wish the Mariners would give Jesse Foppert a call. He looks like he is finally recovered from Tommy John surgery and has the upside to be a solid #2 next to Felix for a long time.

Breck Bronc
04-23-2006, 05:28 PM
The Helton-less Rockies defeat San Francisco in another entertaining, low scoring game at Coors Field.

This Rockies bullpen is shaping up to be the best one they've had since the incredible 1995 pen. Maybe hitters are flat out scared at looking at these handsome fellows:

Brian Fuentes

http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6735.jpg

Jose Mesa

http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/4143.jpg

Ray King

http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6229.jpg

David Cortes

http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/65x90/6321.jpg

I'd like to see Colorado go out and trade for Antonio Alfonseca, not only to add to the uglyness, but the freak show factor as well.

SimonFletcher73
04-23-2006, 05:32 PM
Jose Mesa is not only scary looking, he easily has the ugliest fielding glove in baseball. That purple glove, damn!

Bob's your Information Minister
04-23-2006, 05:33 PM
Jose Mesa is still in baseball? Yikes!

WABronco
04-23-2006, 05:44 PM
I wish the Mariners would give Jesse Foppert a call. He looks like he is finally recovered from Tommy John surgery and has the upside to be a solid #2 next to Felix for a long time.

Foppert is struggling big time in AAA right now. His velocity is hovering around 86-89 mph, and he's been plagued by wildness. He seems to be a shell of his former self right now...

Bronco LB 59
04-23-2006, 05:48 PM
Foppert is struggling big time in AAA right now. His velocity is hovering around 86-89 mph, and he's been plagued by wildness. He seems to be a shell of his former self right now...

You're right the wildness is there, but the strikeouts are still healthy. I still like his long-term outlook, though.


http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Jesse%20Foppert&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=425817

Bronco LB 59
04-23-2006, 05:49 PM
Jose Mesa is not only scary looking, he easily has the ugliest fielding glove in baseball. That purple glove, damn!

Joe Table's purple glove rules!

WABronco
04-23-2006, 06:49 PM
You're right the wildness is there, but the strikeouts are still healthy. I still like his long-term outlook, though.


http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Jesse%20Foppert&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=425817

Cool, cuz Seattle may only have 2/5 of their rotation returning next year.

-Slap-
04-23-2006, 08:19 PM
Cool, cuz Seattle may only have 2/5 of their rotation returning next year.
When are they going to promote Soriano to closer?

WABronco
04-23-2006, 08:54 PM
When are they going to promote Soriano to closer?

Pretty damn soon IMO. Guardado is DONE. He's lost 3 mph off his already below average fastball, and his two other pitches were bad in the first place. I'd say a few more blown saves will be the push over. I can't imagine that the M's FO is comfortable sending Eddie out there with a one run lead...

Hargrove recently gave some typical coach speak bull**** on the matter, saying "Eddie's our closer." Well, if he values job security, he'd better make the change fast...

But, there's some debate as to which RH'er (Soriano, Putz) will get the closer role. Both have great k rates, and both have been nearly unhittable so far this year. Putz's got a new splitter that he just busted out, so that one dominant out pitch may make him the closer by default. Soriano's fastball is explosive, but his slider is average and his change is below average. They may like Raffy in high-leverage situations anyways.

I've already got him on my roster, just in case...

Hogan11
04-23-2006, 09:11 PM
Jose Mesa is not only scary looking, he easily has the ugliest fielding glove in baseball. That purple glove, damn!

Mesa will blow more than his fair share of games eventually......trust me on that.

Hogan11
04-23-2006, 09:13 PM
My Tigers are off to a nice start at 11-7.

Jim Leyland was a great choice for manager. He grew up in a little town about 10 miles from where I live.



I was really upset that Leyland went to Detroit instead of getting the PBurgh job.

Oh well, the season is already lost for the Pirates anyways.

Emancipator2
04-23-2006, 10:37 PM
I'll be pulling for the Atlanta Braves again this year.
They are unable to get back to the World Series.

OrangeShadow
04-24-2006, 06:41 AM
Papelbon 8 for 8 and PAPI BUNTED!!!!

WABronco
04-25-2006, 12:19 AM
Suck on that SoCal!!!

broncocalijohn
04-25-2006, 02:31 AM
socalbronco,
if u need tixs for the series this weekend, i have many season seats for the mighty anaheim angels. PM me if interested. I might have front row field and 2nd row. View MVP and allstar sections too. I am loaded. BTW: My wife is from Chi town and is a sox fan so ill be taking her on saturday.

OrangeShadow
04-25-2006, 06:36 AM
Schill goes for his 5th win tonight cant wait to watch him pitch

Crowpointer
04-25-2006, 08:12 AM
Schill goes for his 5th win tonight cant wait to watch him pitch
Dude you need to update your Avatar. Wild Thing lives

OrangeShadow
04-25-2006, 08:14 AM
that'll teach him not to make bets LMAO

Smelvin
04-26-2006, 02:32 PM
I am not alone in questioning Harden's durability. It's been his only restraint thus far, and many here in the Bay Area are quite worried it will persist.

Harden leaves in the 4th with an injury. Imagine that!

MajikMan7
04-28-2006, 10:16 AM
Ben Sheets for CY!?

It has taken Big Ben only 3 starts to move all the way to having the 12th most in Strikeouts in the NL.

1. O. Hernandez 5 GS 27.1 IP 35 SO

2. C. Capuano 5 GS 33 IP 34 SO
.
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11. B. Penny 5 GS 31 IP 26 SO

12. B. Sheets 3 GS 18 IP 25 SO

13. J. Peavy 5 GS 31.1 IP 24 SO

Smelvin
04-28-2006, 08:48 PM
Harden leaves in the 4th with an injury. Imagine that!

Harden out 3-6 with a back injury. Hey slap - what's up now with Mr. Durability? He's frail, like I told you all along.

-Slap-
04-28-2006, 10:31 PM
Its the same injury as last year, you fuggen momo. He'll miss 4-5 starts and Oakland will miss him a lot more than I will.

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 10:41 PM
Wow, the Rockies are 8-3 on the road to start the season.

Jens1893
04-28-2006, 10:44 PM
CO, how many TV sets do you have? It seems like you watch everthing thatīs Colorado sports related.

Clockwork Orange
04-28-2006, 10:45 PM
CO, how many TV sets do you have? It seems like you watch everthing thatīs Colorado sports related.

I've got a quick remote. ;D

Crowpointer
05-02-2006, 08:17 AM
Don't know if you saw this one but the Sox traded for Doug Mirabelli yesterday to specifically handle Tim Wakefields knuckleball (which he had done for the last few years before being included in the Loretta trade.) His replacement Bard had ten passed ball in 5 starts. Wake was on the hill last night against the Yankees. Mirabelli's plane landed at Logan at 6:48. He was given a police escort by Massachusetts staties, changed into his uniform in the car ,got to the ballpark at 7. The game was delayed (conveniently) 4 minutes . He put on his spikes and walked out to warm up Wake. No passed balls and the good guys won 7-3. Who says we don't have our priorities in order using police to escort ballplayers to big games in time.:thumbs:

SouthStndJunkie
05-03-2006, 11:43 PM
How bout them Tigers!

19-9

All hail Jimmy Leland!

WABronco
05-04-2006, 12:17 AM
http://www.pacificbell-park.com/images/2005/02/18/6opvZocM.jpg"Yes! I am numba one sucky-pitcher!"

SoCalBronco
05-04-2006, 12:18 AM
http://www.pacificbell-park.com/images/2005/02/18/6opvZocM.jpg"Yes! I am numba one sucky-pitcher!"

Nice game tonight. ;D

Bob's your Information Minister
05-04-2006, 12:19 AM
Hottest team in baseball:

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/ARL111050400_800x600.jpg

WABronco
05-04-2006, 12:29 AM
Nice game tonight. ;D
Pablo ****in' Ozuna...you've got to be KIDDING me.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2006, 01:30 PM
How about my Tigers!!

Best record in baseball after 40 games.

-Slap-
05-19-2006, 02:01 PM
How about my Tigers!!

Best record in baseball after 40 games.
I remember when they started 35-5.

Clockwork Orange
05-19-2006, 02:12 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2449605

PHOENIX -- Albert Belle was arrested on a new stalking charge for allegedly making phone calls to a woman he already was charged with harassing.

The 39-year-old former baseball star was arrested by Scottsdale, Ariz., police at his home Wednesday after they investigated new allegations that he made calls to his ex-girlfriend, Sgt. Mark Clark said. Belle is set for a court appearance Thursday in Scottsdale.

Belle was awaiting trial on a felony stalking charge filed in February. The police probable cause statement in that case said his former girlfriend discovered a GPS device that had fallen off her car in January, and that he had threatened her. He was released on bail, subject to electronic monitoring and ordered not to contact her.

Last month, the former girlfriend called police and said she was receiving hang-up phone calls, Clark said. Detectives began an investigation and checked phone records, which showed the calls were coming from Belle. Last week, Belle called and spoke with the woman.

"The nature of the conversation was harassing but not threatening," Clark said.

That was enough probable cause to arrest Belle for felony stalking and violating the previous court order, he said. Clark said because Belle is accused of committing another felony while out on bond, he is ineligible for bail in the new case.

A probable cause statement filed in the new case says the woman "became terrified and asked the defendant if he was crazy contacting her while on release" from the earlier case.

The volatile Belle often ran into trouble on and off the field during his playing days.

A five-time All-Star outfielder, Belle hit 381 career home runs in a 12-year career that began with the Cleveland Indians in 1989. He also played for the Chicago White Sox and Baltimore before retiring in 2000 after his second season with the Orioles.
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It's always refreshing to see bad things happen to bad people.

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2006, 02:43 PM
I remember when they started 35-5.

1984......I was 12 years old.

Clockwork Orange
05-19-2006, 02:50 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2450863

NEW YORK -- Houston pitcher Russ Springer was suspended for four games Friday after throwing several times at Barry Bonds and eventually hitting the San Francisco star earlier this week.

Astros manager Phil Garner was suspended for one game and fined an undisclosed amount by Major League Baseball.

The strange sequence Tuesday began when Bonds led off the fifth inning of the Giants' 14-3 win. Springer's first pitch went behind the seven-time NL MVP's back, drawing a warning from plate umpire Joe West.

The next three pitches all came inside, including one that hit Bonds' bat handle for strike one. On the fifth pitch of the at-bat, Springer hit Bonds in the right shoulder. Springer and Garner were then ejected, and the crowd gave Springer a standing ovation. Bonds took his base without incident.

Bonds has hit 713 home runs, one shy of matching Babe Ruth for second place on the career list. Hank Aaron holds the record of 755, and many people believe Bonds' accomplishments are tainted because of alleged steroids use.

Unless there is an appeal, Springer will begin serving his suspension Friday night when the Astros host the Texas Rangers. If he appeals, the suspension will be held up pending a hearing.

Garner is scheduled to serve his suspension on Monday when Houston plays at Washington.
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Well worth it. :thumbs:

Bronco LB 59
05-19-2006, 04:40 PM
How about my Tigers!!

Best record in baseball after 40 games.

The story of the year so far in baseball. A remarkable turnaround especially when you consider what happened just 3 years back.

Clockwork Orange
05-19-2006, 11:54 PM
And B*nds strikes out to end the ballgame. :laugh:

Pendejo
05-20-2006, 12:24 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2450863

NEW YORK -- Houston pitcher Russ Springer was suspended for four games Friday after throwing several times at Barry Bonds and eventually hitting the San Francisco star earlier this week.

Astros manager Phil Garner was suspended for one game and fined an undisclosed amount by Major League Baseball.

The strange sequence Tuesday began when Bonds led off the fifth inning of the Giants' 14-3 win. Springer's first pitch went behind the seven-time NL MVP's back, drawing a warning from plate umpire Joe West.

The next three pitches all came inside, including one that hit Bonds' bat handle for strike one. On the fifth pitch of the at-bat, Springer hit Bonds in the right shoulder. Springer and Garner were then ejected, and the crowd gave Springer a standing ovation. Bonds took his base without incident.

Bonds has hit 713 home runs, one shy of matching Babe Ruth for second place on the career list. Hank Aaron holds the record of 755, and many people believe Bonds' accomplishments are tainted because of alleged steroids use.

Unless there is an appeal, Springer will begin serving his suspension Friday night when the Astros host the Texas Rangers. If he appeals, the suspension will be held up pending a hearing.

Garner is scheduled to serve his suspension on Monday when Houston plays at Washington.
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Well worth it. :thumbs:

Complete horse sh!t. There is no reason for that kid to be suspended for four games. B*nds looks like friggin' darth vader at the plate.

I doubt Springer would have been suspended though...if he could have hit him with his first pitch. It took him far too many...it's not like B*nds is getting out of the way of anything.

When the Cardinals come in to Petco a week from tonight...I hope Pujols takes a fastball right in the ass. Hitters today have no fear...because they know that the strike zone is tiny, and that if they are hit...the pitcher will get either ejected, or suspended.

They just can't move anyone off the plate anymore.

Hopefully for the rest of the season B*nds gets intentionally walked with one pitch. With any luck he'll bring out his son again and tell us all how he's been beat down.

What a fag. (No insult to the orangemane's regular baloney bandits intended.)

Clockwork Orange
05-20-2006, 02:00 AM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss_050711_allstar/ss_050712_AS_update_03.hmedium.jpg

Fastest player in MLB history to get to 20 HR's in a season after hitting a bomb against the Royals tonight.

Hotwheelz
05-20-2006, 02:25 AM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss_050711_allstar/ss_050712_AS_update_03.hmedium.jpg

Fastest player in MLB history to get to 20 HR's in a season after hitting a bomb against the Royals tonight.


He's a MONSTER.

Seems my Padres have reverted to their April ways. I hate Bochy.:vermeil: :cuss: :bash: :gus: :moody: :garcia: 4321~

OrangeShadow
05-20-2006, 05:31 AM
Ortiz DEMOLISHED one last night

SouthStndJunkie
05-20-2006, 09:58 AM
The story of the year so far in baseball. A remarkable turnaround especially when you consider what happened just 3 years back.

That was a horrible year for the Tigers, but a building block to where they are today.

I have tickets for the Reds/Tigers game this Sunday. Should be fun.

Bronco LB 59
05-20-2006, 12:44 PM
He's a MONSTER.

Seems my Padres have reverted to their April ways. I hate Bochy.:vermeil: :cuss: :bash: :gus: :moody: :garcia: 4321~


Reverted to their April ways? You're an idiot. They are 4-3 on a rigorous road trip. No team can keep a hot streak going like that in a 162 game season.

Bochy has always fared well when the talent was there.

Bronco LB 59
05-20-2006, 12:53 PM
That was a horrible year for the Tigers, but a building block to where they are today.

I have tickets for the Reds/Tigers game this Sunday. Should be fun.


Have fun at the game South Stands.


I give a lot of the credit to Dave Dombrowski. He was responsible for a good portion of the Expos' success in the mid-90s and rebuilding two Marlins championship teams. He drew a lot of criticism for throwing money at Pudge and Ordonez, but I thought they were solid moves considering the Tigers were on the back pages of the Detroit Free Press in the Motor City. For the longest time in the 1990s, Sparky Anderson couldn't get any help from the dry farm system. They now have a good blend of both veteran and homegrown talent.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-20-2006, 01:00 PM
Going to the Asstros game tonight. GO RANGERS!

WABronco
05-20-2006, 01:35 PM
Reverted to their April ways? You're an idiot. They are 4-3 on a rigorous road trip. No team can keep a hot streak going like that in a 162 game season.

Bochy has always fared well when the talent was there.
Jose Lopez>Josh Barfield8')

Just playing around

Bronco LB 59
05-20-2006, 02:34 PM
Jose Lopez>Josh Barfield8')

Just playing around


Safeco Field is so tough on right-handed hitters. When you see Sexson and Beltre struggling almost two months in, it makes you appreciate Lopez's start so much more.

SouthStndJunkie
05-20-2006, 02:40 PM
Have fun at the game South Stands.


I give a lot of the credit to Dave Dombrowski. He was responsible for a good portion of the Expos' success in the mid-90s and rebuilding two Marlins championship teams. He drew a lot of criticism for throwing money at Pudge and Ordonez, but I thought they were solid moves considering the Tigers were on the back pages of the Detroit Free Press in the Motor City. For the longest time in the 1990s, Sparky Anderson couldn't get any help from the dry farm system. They now have a good blend of both veteran and homegrown talent.

The Tigers had to throw money at Pudge and Ordonez and take the risk, it was the only way they could attract top level free agents to Detroit at the time. Kenny Rogers looks to be another signing that is paying off. Every time I see the guy in the dugout he is mentoring the young pitching staff and giving advice.

Verlander and Zumuya are products of the farm system and both look to be flat out future studs. It is nice to see, to say the least.

WABronco
05-20-2006, 02:58 PM
Safeco Field is so tough on right-handed hitters. When you see Sexson and Beltre struggling almost two months in, it makes you appreciate Lopez's start so much more.
Lol, no kidding. I think his OPS at home is nearly 300 points below is road OPS...UGH!

SouthStndJunkie
05-20-2006, 03:17 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2452050

Cubs' Barrett slugs Pierzynski, leads to melee

SouthStndJunkie
05-20-2006, 03:18 PM
Here is the replay of the fight. Barrett landed a nice shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctsYoWLgtuY

WABronco
05-21-2006, 12:47 AM
Vote Jose Lopez for AL 2nd base All Star...you bastards!:)

OrangeShadow
05-21-2006, 05:15 AM
so glad barret punched that prick out

plus beckett homered!

WABronco
05-21-2006, 03:42 PM
Oooo 52, your boy Chan Ho's getting dismantled...

Edit-****

SpringStein
05-21-2006, 05:15 PM
Rockies sweep of the Blue Jays ties them with their best record after 44 games with the '95 team. This week will be an important road trip with 6 games at LA and SF.

-Slap-
05-22-2006, 11:19 PM
Wow. 16 Ks for Jake Peavy through seven innings tonight, but he's getting outdueled 2-0 by John Smoltz.

SouthStndJunkie
05-22-2006, 11:31 PM
Justin Verlander was dominant tonight. He was still throwing 99 mph in the 9th inning.

9 IP 5 hits 0 runs 1 walk and 7 Ks.

Verlander is now 6-3 with a 2.70 ERA on the year.

"That's as good a stuff as I've seen in a long time," Royals manager Buddy Bell said. "His total command was exceptional."

"My last at-bat he was 99 on the black," said Doug Mientkiewicz, who struck out for the second out in the ninth. "Goodness gracious. That's as good as stuff as I've seen."

WABronco
05-23-2006, 01:03 AM
Justin Verlander was dominant tonight. He was still throwing 99 mph in the 9th inning.

9 IP 5 hits 0 runs 1 walk and 7 Ks.

Verlander is now 6-3 with a 2.70 ERA on the year.

"That's as good a stuff as I've seen in a long time," Royals manager Buddy Bell said. "His total command was exceptional."

"My last at-bat he was 99 on the black," said Doug Mientkiewicz, who struck out for the second out in the ninth. "Goodness gracious. That's as good as stuff as I've seen."

How in the hell did he not strike anyone out in one of his recent starts (can't remember which)?

OrangeShadow
05-23-2006, 06:09 AM
Ortiz=Yankee KILLER!

Ballhawk
05-23-2006, 11:14 AM
Just wanted to give up some props to the Dodgers. They were blasted last year for the acquisitions of Drew and Penny,and both are leading the way this year. Still worried that the season may take its toll on guys like Drew, Kent, Lofton and Nomar, but so far they are doing well in a very competetive West. Has any division ever finished with every team at or above .500?

Clockwork Orange
05-23-2006, 09:40 PM
#23 for Pujols tonight.

DBroncos4life
05-24-2006, 11:59 AM
It sounds like Gagne is getting closer to being back.

SouthStndJunkie
05-25-2006, 04:16 PM
Joel Zumaya is being clocked at 101 mph in the Tigers/KC game being played right now.

SouthStndJunkie
05-25-2006, 04:18 PM
The Tigers have battled back from a 6-0 hole to take a 9-8 lead in the 9th.

This team is something else.

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 05:44 PM
The Tigers have battled back from a 6-0 hole to take a 9-8 lead in the 9th.

This team is something else.
Maroth got freaking destroyed today. Six ER and three bombs before they rescued him after 1/3 of an inning.

SouthStndJunkie
05-25-2006, 05:53 PM
Maroth got freaking destroyed today. Six ER and three bombs before they rescued him after 1/3 of an inning.

Yep....his ERA went from 2.45 to 3.56.

WABronco
05-25-2006, 07:00 PM
Tomorrow...it's Felix vs. Francisco. Two of the game's best young phenoms going head-to-head.

I'm really, really hoping that Felix pulls his head out of his ass and puts up a competent line.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-25-2006, 10:05 PM
Rangers just came back from 7-0 down to win 8-7 on a walkoff homer.

BOOYAH!

Ian Kinsler knocked two taters tonight, too, fresh off the DL.

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 10:11 PM
Rangers just came back from 7-0 down to win 8-7 on a walkoff homer.

BOOYAH!

Ian Kinsler knocked two taters tonight, too, fresh off the DL.
Tex is pissing me off big time. Nice to know he can still clear the wall.

WABronco
05-25-2006, 10:35 PM
fresh off the DL.
...and right onto my fantasy team! WOOT! I need someone to pick up for that suck-ass Bobby Crosby (he sucks right now anyways).

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 10:51 PM
I'm trading first place back and forth with this guy in one of my leagues.

A couple weeks ago I traded him rehabbing Coco Crisp for megaslumping Richie Sexson. Risky deal, but if they both return to form, I'll win this trade.

The cold reality of starting Jason Morneau at 1B smacked him in the face and he tried to pry away Lance Berkman for Alex Rios. I rejected that deal and countered with (1B eligible) Nick Swisher straight up for Rios. He rejected it, but now he just offered me the same trade, which I accepted in a New York minute.

I like competing against a guy who isn't afraid to trade with his strongest competition. I love competing against people who offer me value for value in trades instead of the **** for value offers I reject every day.

WABronco
05-25-2006, 10:58 PM
A couple weeks ago I traded him rehabbing Coco Crisp for megaslumping Richie Sexson. Risky deal, but if they both return to form, I'll win this trade.
Hmmmm...that is megarisky. Sexson has little to no protection behind him at the moment, and he already struggles against breaking pitches. I'm keeping him on my roster too though...he's starting to make solid contact.

I hope you picked up JJ Putz...he's easily one of the most dominant closers in the game now. I think he's got a 36/6 ratio going right now in just over 20 innings. Nice...

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 11:04 PM
Hmmmm...that is megarisky. Sexson has little to no protection behind him at the moment, and he already struggles against breaking pitches. I'm keeping him on my roster too though...he's starting to make solid contact.

I hope you picked up JJ Putz...he's easily one of the most dominant closers in the game now. I think he's got a 36/6 ratio going right now in just over 20 innings. Nice...
Nah, like a peckerhead, I bought strong on Soriano and didn't reverse field until it was too late.

WABronco
05-25-2006, 11:06 PM
Nah, like a peckerhead, I bought strong on Soriano and didn't reverse field until it was too late.
Bummer...I'm sure you're set in the saves department anyways.

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 11:21 PM
Bummer...I'm sure you're set in the saves department anyways.
I have it under control on most teams. The one league where I'm hurting, I'm limping along with Tyler Walker until Gagne comes back.

WABronco
05-26-2006, 12:26 AM
I have it under control on most teams. The one league where I'm hurting, I'm limping along with Tyler Walker until Gagne comes back.
*shudders*

There's some pitchers that I expect my team to shell when they come in...and he's one of them. So is Bob Wickman, despite his decent numbers. Heh...

Taco John
05-26-2006, 02:01 AM
This just in...

JASON BAY IS ON A TEAR!

We return you to your regular scheduled programming...

Taco John
05-26-2006, 02:11 AM
I'm loving it... My buddies talked me into fantasy baseball for the first time ever... I did my homework, drafted smart, and have held the lead ever since. I absolutely love Fantasy Baseball...

Check out my team...

C - J. Willingham
1B - Nick Swisher (1B, OF)
2B - Chase Utley (1B, 2B)
SS - Jose Reyes
3B - Morgan Ensberg
Util - F. Lopez (2B, SS)
OF - J. Bay
OF - B. Abreu
OF - A. Jones

Bench - C. Figgins (2B, 3B, OF)
Bench - E. Chavez (3B)
Bench - K. Johjima (C)

DL - H. Matsui (I know I know... No reason to drop him yet. My team has been healthy)

Here's my pitching staff:

SP - J. Bonderman
SP - J. Beckett
SP - A. Harang
RP - J. Papelbon
RP - J. Nathan
P - A. Otsuka
P - D. Weathers

Bench - J. Lackey (SP)
Bench - R. Clemens (SP)


I had Derrick Lee, but once he got injured and Nick Swisher proved he could hold down the fort, I packaged him and Brad Penny to bring in the Rocket and Chone Figgins. Any thoughts on that trade? It's my first year, so I kind of wonder if I did the right thing there... But I feel good about what Nick's been doing for my team, and I'd really like to get an ace like Roger on the staff...

OrangeShadow
05-26-2006, 07:45 AM
depending on where the rocket lands i think that was a smart deal^
that rotation is nasty with beckett,pap etc.

Crowpointer
05-26-2006, 09:00 AM
depending on where the rocket lands i think that was a smart deal^
that rotation is nasty with beckett,pap etc.
The etc.. doesn't include Clement. He is miserable. If Boomer can't come back the Arroyo deal looks worse and worse. The pressure moves to Abe Alvarez to perform in the Bigs.

OrangeShadow
05-26-2006, 09:10 AM
The etc.. doesn't include Clement. He is miserable. If Boomer can't come back the Arroyo deal looks worse and worse. The pressure moves to Abe Alvarez to perform in the Bigs.

I was more talking about tacos team. But i still like the arroyo deal. How often do you get to trade an above average starte(thats what he is) for your future right fielder. Ill take pena everyday especially with lester,alvarez,hansen and delcarmen waiting in the wings.

Crowpointer
05-26-2006, 09:36 AM
I was more talking about tacos team. But i still like the arroyo deal. How often do you get to trade an above average starte(thats what he is) for your future right fielder. Ill take pena everyday especially with lester,alvarez,hansen and delcarmen waiting in the wings.
The deal looks good for 2007 and 2008 because thats when those young arms are ready to roll. For the 2006 season talk to me in August/September if we are Beckett, Schilling Wake and then praying for a rain out. Would you agree we should have tried to unload Clement ? We couldn't because they signed him to that big contract where they screwed Arroyo when he took the hometown discount (when he could have got Millions more)just to stay in Boston and they used his reasonable contract against him. Pena can hit but how about that throw last night and that stumbling catch ?

Taco John
05-26-2006, 02:32 PM
I wonder when Roger finally comes back...

TheManeMan
05-26-2006, 07:37 PM
I'm loving it... My buddies talked me into fantasy baseball for the first time ever... I did my homework, drafted smart, and have held the lead ever since. I absolutely love Fantasy Baseball...

Check out my team...

C - J. Willingham
1B - Nick Swisher (1B, OF)
2B - Chase Utley (1B, 2B)
SS - Jose Reyes
3B - Morgan Ensberg
Util - F. Lopez (2B, SS)
OF - J. Bay
OF - B. Abreu
OF - A. Jones

Bench - C. Figgins (2B, 3B, OF)
Bench - E. Chavez (3B)
Bench - K. Johjima (C)

DL - H. Matsui (I know I know... No reason to drop him yet. My team has been healthy)

Here's my pitching staff:

SP - J. Bonderman
SP - J. Beckett
SP - A. Harang
RP - J. Papelbon
RP - J. Nathan
P - A. Otsuka
P - D. Weathers

Bench - J. Lackey (SP)
Bench - R. Clemens (SP)


I had Derrick Lee, but once he got injured and Nick Swisher proved he could hold down the fort, I packaged him and Brad Penny to bring in the Rocket and Chone Figgins. Any thoughts on that trade? It's my first year, so I kind of wonder if I did the right thing there... But I feel good about what Nick's been doing for my team, and I'd really like to get an ace like Roger on the staff...

You should be starting Chone...unless you dont need any SB's...

Clemens supposedly has narrowed it down to Boston or Houston...I think a decision will come soon... and he'll return after the All-Star break...

SouthStndJunkie
05-26-2006, 08:40 PM
Slap,

You been playing Granderson lately?

He has been on a tear.

5 RBIs tonight.

WABronco
05-26-2006, 09:01 PM
Slap,

You been playing Granderson lately?

He has been on a tear.

5 RBIs tonight.
What's with the 3 SB's? Does Leyland not like to run much?

Bob's your Information Minister
05-26-2006, 09:07 PM
Clemens supposedly has narrowed it down to Boston or Houston...I think a decision will come soon... and he'll return after the All-Star break...

I hope Texas is still in the running.

And I believe he was just using Boston and NY for leverage.

Clockwork Orange
05-26-2006, 09:29 PM
Jeff Francis plunked B*nds with the first pitch he threw to him. I love this kid. !Booya!

Liebs
05-26-2006, 09:31 PM
Brandon Webb pitched his 2nd consecutive complete game SHUTOUT today, to improve to 8-0.

pretty impressive

Bob's your Information Minister
05-26-2006, 10:53 PM
Another win for the Rangers, now the only team in the AL West with a winning record.

SouthStndJunkie
05-26-2006, 10:58 PM
What's with the 3 SB's? Does Leyland not like to run much?

Granderson is not a 'true' leadoff man....thus the lack of stolen bases. He will probably end up with 10-15.

WABronco
05-27-2006, 03:00 AM
Granderson is not a 'true' leadoff man....thus the lack of stolen bases. He will probably end up with 10-15.
Hmmm...all I heard about in ST was his speed. Thanks though...

-Slap-
05-27-2006, 04:14 AM
Brandon Webb pitched his 2nd consecutive complete game SHUTOUT today, to improve to 8-0.

pretty impressive
I love it. He also dropped his ERA to 2.12. He pitches half his games in a hitter's park, too.

-Slap-
05-27-2006, 04:16 AM
Slap,

You been playing Granderson lately?

He has been on a tear.

5 RBIs tonight.
Yeah, I still have him on several teams. My offenses are so loaded its sick. With Liriano coming on and Harden, Prior, Gagne and Clemens coming back, my pitching staffs are rounding into shape nicely, too.

SouthStndJunkie
05-27-2006, 10:29 AM
Hmmm...all I heard about in ST was his speed. Thanks though...

Speed does not always equate to base stealing prowess. He only had 1 stolen base last year in 47 games. He is 3-6 this year in stolen bases. He has already already struck out 51 times this year. Granderson has taken a lot more walks this year (26) than he did last year in a similar amount of plate appearances. His OBP is up from .314 to .369 this year as a result.

See below comments from a scouting report as to why I say he is not your typical leadoff man:

Flaws

Still has work to do on his plate discipline and getting a good read when stealing.

That said, Curtis has been very clutch this year and has come up big in several games when the Tigers needed it.

WABronco
05-27-2006, 01:49 PM
Speed does not always equate to base stealing prowess. He only had 1 stolen base last year in 47 games. He is 3-6 this year in stolen bases. He has already already struck out 51 times this year. Granderson has taken a lot more walks this year (26) than he did last year in a similar amount of plate appearances. His OBP is up from .314 to .369 this year as a result.

See below comments from a scouting report as to why I say he is not your typical leadoff man:

Flaws

Still has work to do on his plate discipline and getting a good read when stealing.

That said, Curtis has been very clutch this year and has come up big in several games when the Tigers needed it.gotcha...

OrangeShadow
05-27-2006, 04:40 PM
the big schill goes for 200 tonight

-Slap-
05-28-2006, 02:50 PM
Jason Bay is quietly destroying the universe. Another bomb today. That gives him 10 HR and 23 RBI in his last 10 games.

http://www.post-gazette.com/images3/20050511wap_bucs_bay_reaxPJ_450.jpg

I traded Figgins, Tracy and CWilson for Bay and Webb last month. I think I'm getting the better end of that deal so far.

Clockwork Orange
05-28-2006, 04:27 PM
#24 for Pujols today against the Padres.

WABronco
05-28-2006, 04:29 PM
I traded Figgins, Tracy and CWilson for Bay and Webb last month. I think I'm getting the better end of that deal so far.

O.........M.........G

That's Liriano-Bonser-Nathan for Pierzynksi (sp) all over again!

-Slap-
05-28-2006, 04:33 PM
O.........M.........G

That's Liriano-Bonser-Nathan for Pierzynksi (sp) all over again!
Bay was slumping and temporarily banished to sixth in the batting order when I proposed that trade.......:)

WABronco
05-28-2006, 04:35 PM
Another win for the Rangers, now the only team in the AL West with a winning record.
Dear Texas Rangers,

Please sweep Seattle this week. Another 6 (2 sweeps in a row) game losing streak would almost certainly end the misery that is Mike Hargrove managing. He almost got the axe a week ago, but alas...the Mariners decided to disregard the signs and gruesome bullpen use and have a winning homestand.

Also, even though I want you to sweep Seattle, I'd appreciate it if you went easy on a few of our pitchers...Meche and Hernandez in particular. Both are starting to turn around their seasons, and a shelling in Texas certainly wouldn't help things. But, even if you do decide to put up 15 runs on each guy, I suppose it'll only quicken the firing. Do what you wish...I guess.

Your's truly,

WABronco

Clockwork Orange
05-28-2006, 04:35 PM
Bay was slumping and temporarily banished to sixth in the batting order when I proposed that trade.......:)

Buy low, sell high. :)

Taco John
05-29-2006, 03:50 AM
You should be starting Chone...unless you dont need any SB's...

Clemens supposedly has narrowed it down to Boston or Houston...I think a decision will come soon... and he'll return after the All-Star break...



Thanks... Between Jose Reyes and F. Lopez, I've pretty much got stolen bases nailed down each week, however, I actually came to the conclusion that I needed to get Chone in there on Thursday night when doing my trend work... I ended up putting Swisher on the bench, moving Utley to first, and getting Chone in at second.

The nice thing about Nick is his roster flexibility, so he'll still find time in the outfield... Though it's hard to mix him in there with Bay, Abreu, and A. Jones out there... But each of them have proven that they're capable of slumps...

Clockwork Orange
05-29-2006, 05:41 PM
#25 for Pujols today, another three run bomb. :notworthy

Taco John
05-29-2006, 08:56 PM
Looks like Bay is cooling down a little... He's 1 for 5 at the bottom of the eigth... His teammates picked him up though... They're crushing Milwaukee 14-3.

Al Wilson
05-29-2006, 10:02 PM
Looks like Bay is cooling down a little... He's 1 for 5 at the bottom of the eigth... His teammates picked him up though... They're crushing Milwaukee 14-3.
How's the fantasy team

Boy, Bay is some special player eh

WABronco
05-29-2006, 10:23 PM
Anyone here throw lefthanded? If so, give your local team a call when the M's are in town.

This team may have the most inept MOTO (if you can call it that) in the history of mankind.

Rich Karlis
05-30-2006, 03:31 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060530&content_id=1479277&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Mets promote top prospect Milledge

NEW YORK -- The Mets placed outfielder Xavier Nady on the 15-day disabled list on Tuesday and recalled outfielder Lastings Milledge from Triple-A Norfolk of the International League.
Nady underwent an appendectomy on Tuesday at approximately 5:30 a.m. at New York Presbyterian Hospital. Nady should be able to resume baseball activities in seven to 10 days.

In 45 games, Nady was hitting .267 with nine home runs and 22 RBIs.

Milledge, 21, was batting .291 (53-for-182) with 32 runs scored, 16 doubles, two triples, four home runs, 19 RBIs and eight stolen bases in 50 games for the Tides.

Milledge batted .327 (18-for-55) with 10 runs scored, two doubles, one home run, seven RBIs and two stolen bases in 23 Spring Training games.

Milledge was New York's first-round (12th overall) selection in the 2003 First-Year Player Draft from Lakewood Ranch High School in Bradenton, Fla.

I have been looking forward to seeing this kid play against the big boys. I got to see him play in a few spring training games this year and he showed great speed on the bases and in the field, but he has more than a few 3 and 4 SO games. If he gets on base in the Majors he could be a decent fantasy guy this year if you are looking for a SB guy.

Taco John
05-30-2006, 03:48 PM
How's the fantasy team

Boy, Bay is some special player eh


I think Fantasy Baseball is probably as addicting as anything I've ever tried. I think it's the best fantasy sport there is. I love the week long games, and following the trends. I played fantasy basketball before, which is similar... But I like this much better.

OrangeShadow
05-30-2006, 04:05 PM
I still think fantasy football is better but baseball is a close second. Ive always followed the sox and baseball religously but i had never really taken part in fantasy baseball,its great

WABronco
05-30-2006, 04:49 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060530&content_id=1479277&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Mets promote top prospect Milledge

NEW YORK -- The Mets placed outfielder Xavier Nady on the 15-day disabled list on Tuesday and recalled outfielder Lastings Milledge from Triple-A Norfolk of the International League.
Nady underwent an appendectomy on Tuesday at approximately 5:30 a.m. at New York Presbyterian Hospital. Nady should be able to resume baseball activities in seven to 10 days.

In 45 games, Nady was hitting .267 with nine home runs and 22 RBIs.

Milledge, 21, was batting .291 (53-for-182) with 32 runs scored, 16 doubles, two triples, four home runs, 19 RBIs and eight stolen bases in 50 games for the Tides.

Milledge batted .327 (18-for-55) with 10 runs scored, two doubles, one home run, seven RBIs and two stolen bases in 23 Spring Training games.

Milledge was New York's first-round (12th overall) selection in the 2003 First-Year Player Draft from Lakewood Ranch High School in Bradenton, Fla.

I have been looking forward to seeing this kid play against the big boys. I got to see him play in a few spring training games this year and he showed great speed on the bases and in the field, but he has more than a few 3 and 4 SO games. If he gets on base in the Majors he could be a decent fantasy guy this year if you are looking for a SB guy.
How 'bout Milledge for Joel Piniero??? Sounds fair to me...

Taco John
05-30-2006, 05:28 PM
I still think fantasy football is better but baseball is a close second. Ive always followed the sox and baseball religously but i had never really taken part in fantasy baseball,its great



The thing I like about fantasy baseball is that it lasts longer, and you can make adjustments to your line-up during the week to affect the game. In football, you can't make adjustments. Plus, in Baseball, the universe of players that can help your team is so much larger than in football... or at least it seems to me...

SouthStndJunkie
05-30-2006, 05:36 PM
Looks like The Rocket is coming back to play for the Astros.

Taco John
05-30-2006, 06:34 PM
Holy crap! Beckett is getting eaten alive. He just gave up two home runs in a row in the first inning.

OrangeShadow
05-30-2006, 07:41 PM
toronto's had his number this season. they just match up well with him. besides hes had 4 great starts in a row.

Hogan11
05-30-2006, 08:54 PM
I was at the Pirates series against the Aholes....and all 18 innings last Sat. night.

Despite the loss on Sunday, I'm here to tell you two things:

1) Bay is the monster that people say he is....take notice of him if you haven't already.

2) The Pirates have turned a corner. Casey is back and the misfortune is ending. If there's any doubt about that, just look at how they're dismantling a very good Brewers team as we speak.

Post season? Definitely not. 500 ball? It's a stretch, but maybe....causing damage? it's a certainity and that's all I could ever ask out of a very young ballclub that's finally getting it's act together.

Sassy
05-30-2006, 08:55 PM
Is 18 innings a record? If not, what is the record for number of innings?

Hogan11
05-30-2006, 09:00 PM
Is 18 innings a record? If not, what is the record for number of innings?
It's not an MLB record....but it was the longest game in PNC Park history and the longest for the Pirates since 1989

Al Wilson
05-30-2006, 10:13 PM
Vernon with 3 dingers. I hope the Jays finally get a sweep tomorrow, and move half a game back of Boston.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-30-2006, 10:33 PM
Is 18 innings a record? If not, what is the record for number of innings?

32

Taco John
05-30-2006, 10:44 PM
Looks like Bay has descended back to the realm of mortal men... 1 for 5, with 1 RBI and 3 strike outs... It was fun while it lasted... I can't wait until the next one.

Thankfully, I guessed right today, and benched Figgins in favor of getting Nick Swisher back in the line-up. Nick is 3 for 3 right now with a homerun, and as I'm typing this is sitting on third base. Not too shabby.

Taco John
05-30-2006, 10:51 PM
Does anybody know if there's a halfway mark on MLB extra innings where you get a break in the price? I'm getting addicted, and it's only going to get worse as the summer goes on...

Jens1893
05-31-2006, 08:33 PM
http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0531/mlb_a_clemens_412.jpg

TJīs fantasy team gets a boost. Oh, and the Astros as well.

OrangeShadow
05-31-2006, 08:35 PM
man ill be happy of we get this win with pauley starting tonight

Hogan11
05-31-2006, 09:58 PM
Looks like Bay has descended back to the realm of mortal men... 1 for 5, with 1 RBI and 3 strike outs... It was fun while it lasted... I can't wait until the next one.

Well, it looks as if Jose Castillo is picking up where Bay left off....tonight he homered in his 5th consecutive game in another win for the Buccos over the Brewers. Beat 'em Bucs!!

Taco John
06-01-2006, 12:12 AM
http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0531/mlb_a_clemens_412.jpg

TJīs fantasy team gets a boost. Oh, and the Astros as well.



BOTH my fantasy teams get a boost... I'm thrilled the wait is finally going to pay off! Both of my teams could use the pitching boost, especially my Orange Mane league team. It's going to be great having Pedro and Roger in there to keep my innings pitched up while keeping the ERA low... My pitching staff is getting a huge boost from this. It's great to know that I can just set and forget my SP and RP spots for the rest of the season...

SP - Pedro
SP - Roger
RP - Turnbow
RP - M. Rivera
P - D. Baez
P - G. Maddux
P - C. Young

Not too shabby, if I do say so myself

-Slap-
06-01-2006, 01:28 AM
BOTH my fantasy teams get a boost... I'm thrilled the wait is finally going to pay off! Both of my teams could use the pitching boost, especially my Orange Mane league team. It's going to be great having Pedro and Roger in there to keep my innings pitched up while keeping the ERA low... My pitching staff is getting a huge boost from this. It's great to know that I can just set and forget my SP and RP spots for the rest of the season...

SP - Pedro
SP - Roger
RP - Turnbow
RP - M. Rivera
P - D. Baez
P - G. Maddux
P - C. Young

Not too shabby, if I do say so myself
Pretty nice, but Baez will be losing his closer job in about 24 hours.

Gagne back with Dodgers tomorrow (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149027012025&call_pageid=969907739730&col=970081600908)

Clockwork Orange
06-01-2006, 01:29 AM
Pretty nice, but Baez will be losing his closer job in about 24 hours.

Gagne back with Dodgers tomorrow (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149027012025&call_pageid=969907739730&col=970081600908)

Your post is just overflowing with sympathy. ;)

-Slap-
06-01-2006, 01:35 AM
Your post is just overflowing with sympathy. ;)
Across my teams, I've practically got an entire pitching staff coming back in the next couple weeks: Gagne, Harden, Prior, Clemens and a couple others.

Clockwork Orange
06-01-2006, 01:38 AM
Across my teams, I've practically got an entire pitching staff coming back in the next couple weeks: Gagne, Harden, Prior, Clemens and a couple others.

When is Prior due back? Has he made any rehab starts in AAA yet?

-Slap-
06-01-2006, 01:41 AM
When is Prior due back? Has he made any rehab starts yet?
A week to ten days. At first I thought he was going to return against St Louis on June 3rd, which would have sucked because the Redbirds take great joy in pummeling him. One rehab start already and he was very shaky.

Harden pitched a couple rehab innings for Sacramento out here tonight. The original plan was for him to have a rehab start tomorrow, but they changed their minds. I would have liked to check that out.

24champ
06-01-2006, 02:17 AM
Pretty nice, but Baez will be losing his closer job in about 24 hours.

Gagne back with Dodgers tomorrow (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149027012025&call_pageid=969907739730&col=970081600908)
yeah I would like to say to the Padres, Giants, Rockies fans.....

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Taco John
06-01-2006, 09:15 PM
Pretty nice, but Baez will be losing his closer job in about 24 hours.

Gagne back with Dodgers tomorrow (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149027012025&call_pageid=969907739730&col=970081600908)


Son of a --

That just sucks! Baez has been a steady hand in there... Well, I guess the good news for me is that with Reitsma blowing save after save, I can call up Kenny Ray off the bench.

-Slap-
06-01-2006, 09:29 PM
Closers are the bane of roto geeks. When you have as many teams as I do, there's almost always a closer in crisis somewhere. My current dilemma is volatile Jose Valverde has coughed up the job in AZ to equally volatile Jorge Julio. I wound up with Jose as a last resort third closer on a couple teams and now I have to figure out an alternate plan.

Taco John
06-01-2006, 09:34 PM
That's one thing that I'm learning... But it's also to the advantage of the wheeler and dealer...

Tell me if I'm crazy... I'm new at this... But I've already got Nick Swisher holding down the 1 bag... But instinct tells me that having Teix on my roster down the stretch might be a good thing, especially in the dog days of Summer... My buddy is sitting on Teix, and is losing a closer in Baez. Would it be insane for me to offer him Joe Nathan in exchange for Teix, and then pick up Kenny Ray out of Free agency to fill the gap?


My rationale being 'How many closing opportunities is Joe Nathan really going to get with the Twins this year?'

Taco John
06-02-2006, 12:43 AM
Any thoughts?

-Slap-
06-02-2006, 01:24 AM
That's one thing that I'm learning... But it's also to the advantage of the wheeler and dealer...

Tell me if I'm crazy... I'm new at this... But I've already got Nick Swisher holding down the 1 bag... But instinct tells me that having Teix on my roster down the stretch might be a good thing, especially in the dog days of Summer... My buddy is sitting on Teix, and is losing a closer in Baez. Would it be insane for me to offer him Joe Nathan in exchange for Teix, and then pick up Kenny Ray out of Free agency to fill the gap?


My rationale being 'How many closing opportunities is Joe Nathan really going to get with the Twins this year?'

I would trade Nathan for Teixeira in a heartbeat. Tex has been a collosal disappointment this year, but he's still one of the top five power hitters in baseball. I wouldn't be surprised to see him crank 15 HRs in a month and get his numbers close to his normal figures.

I wouldn't underrate Nathan's save opps in the second half. Santana and now Liriano are going to keep them in a lot of close games, but I would still make that trade.

WABronco
06-02-2006, 11:13 PM
No one else is even close. The fact that he won't make the All Star squad is close to the crime of the century.

He's now hitting .286 with 9 bombs, 45 rbi's, and the most hits of any second baseman. And he's done all of this as a no. 2 hitter (for most of the season anyways...he's now hitting 3rd) in one of the worst offenses in recorded history (in all sports).

OMG!! I WANT TO KILL SOMEBODY! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!:cuss:

Taco John
06-03-2006, 10:24 AM
I would trade Nathan for Teixeira in a heartbeat. Tex has been a collosal disappointment this year, but he's still one of the top five power hitters in baseball. I wouldn't be surprised to see him crank 15 HRs in a month and get his numbers close to his normal figures.

I wouldn't underrate Nathan's save opps in the second half. Santana and now Liriano are going to keep them in a lot of close games, but I would still make that trade.



So he countered... He wants both Nathan and Figgins for Teixiera... What do you think? Do I do it? I think so. I've got Figgins on the bench anyway, but I like his utility...

The interesting story behind Figgins, is that he drafted him. I traded for Figgins ins a deal to get Clemens... I had drafted Derek Lee, and once he got injured I picked up Nick Swisher, and then offered Derek Lee and Brad Penny in a deal for Chone Figgins and Roger Clemens.

So what do you think? Should I give up Figgins and Nathan for Teix...

My concern is Teix's power has suddenly vanished... You know... right after the steroids thing exploded in MLB's face. What if, you know?

Taco John
06-03-2006, 10:43 AM
Hmmm... Well, I asked, but I went ahead and accepted the offer.


Still would like to get anybody's feedback on whether they'd do such a trade...

-Slap-
06-03-2006, 11:01 AM
Hmmm... Well, I asked, but I went ahead and accepted the offer.


Still would like to get anybody's feedback on whether they'd do such a trade...
In a roto league I wouldn't make that deal because steals are much more valuable in that format. In a head to head league its probably a solid deal. Tex was steroid tested last year and he hit 43 bombs. He seems to be a big strapping kid who plays half his game in a park that favors power hitters. I can't explain the power outage this year, but I still have to believe he'll go on a tear at some point.

Taco John
06-03-2006, 11:14 AM
Thanks... We're in a head to head format. I've got Jose Reyes and F. Lopez helping on the save front, though Lopez has hit a big slump after having gone on a nice tear.

Which do you prefer? Roto or H2H?

minibronco
06-03-2006, 11:17 AM
H2H is more fun if you know everyone in the league and you can talk to them on a regular basis, IMO.

-Slap-
06-03-2006, 11:18 AM
Thanks... We're in a head to head format. I've got Jose Reyes and F. Lopez helping on the save front, though Lopez has hit a big slump after having gone on a nice tear.

Which do you prefer? Roto or H2H?
I'm severely addicted to roto baseball. I know most people prefer head to head and I understand all the reasons why. I like roto because the luck element is minimized.

WABronco
06-03-2006, 02:11 PM
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6880/lopezscrewed6cg.png

Un-Be-Lieve-Able

Rich Karlis
06-03-2006, 03:11 PM
BarROID just got thrown out at first base by Endy Chavez on a Ray Durham line out. That was sad....

Clockwork Orange
06-03-2006, 03:33 PM
Albert Pujols just left the game in the 3rd inning because of a back strain. Not good.

-Slap-
06-03-2006, 07:34 PM
Albert Pujols just left the game in the 3rd inning because of a back strain. Not good.
Oblique strain. Looks like he did it chasing a foul pop, not swinging, so that might be a good sign. Problem is that's an injury that tends to nag and you know Albert won't rest as long as they recommend.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/baseball/mlb/06/03/cubs.cardinals.ap/Pujols.jpg

Clockwork Orange
06-03-2006, 07:39 PM
Oblique strain. Looks like he did it chasing a foul pop, not swinging, so that might be a good sign. Problem is that's an injury that tends to nag and you know Albert won't rest as long as they recommend.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/baseball/mlb/06/03/cubs.cardinals.ap/Pujols.jpg

Yeah, I was watching the game when it happened and you could tell that he was hurting afterwards. He said that he felt something pop.

I wouldn't mind seeing them put him on the 15 day DL right now so that he can't talk them into putting him in the lineup before he's had ample rest.

WABronco
06-04-2006, 12:45 AM
Albert Pujols just left the game in the 3rd inning because of a back strain. Not good.

52 is crapping his pants right about now...8')

Scratch that...he's got Ryan Howard too...bastard. Heh

Taco John
06-04-2006, 12:57 AM
Hmmm... My buddy told me that he had heard he was out at least 6 weeks. I don't know where he got that, but we both agreed that while it's good for us since his brother has Pujols, it's bad for baseball. I hope he gets well soon.

WABronco
06-04-2006, 12:58 AM
Hmmm... My buddy told me that he had heard he was out at least 6 weeks. I don't know where he got that, but we both agreed that while it's good for us since his brother has Pujols, it's bad for baseball. I hope he gets well soon.
La Russa was freakin' out on ESPN. He said he expect Albert to be out for a "significant" amount of time.

Taco John
06-04-2006, 12:59 AM
Also I wanted to note that the KC Royals SUCK! It's nice for the M's to be able to use them as a stretch of flat pavement in the middle of a field of speedbumps.

Clockwork Orange
06-04-2006, 01:02 AM
La Russa was freakin' out on ESPN. He said he expect Albert to be out for a "significant" amount of time.

I'd freak out too if I had Carpenter and Pujols on the DL at the same time.

WABronco
06-04-2006, 01:10 AM
Also I wanted to note that the KC Royals SUCK! It's nice for the M's to be able to use them as a stretch of flat pavement in the middle of a field of speedbumps.
...yea. Winning is not the best scenario right now though IMO (no worries though, they'll go back to their old ways during this next road trip). Hargrove needs to go, and a managerial change during their last off day would've been nice. We sweep the Royals with the new guy and everyone comes out smelling like flowers.

Alas...I'll always feel a little better when I remember that we have a top 2 second baseman and he's only 22.

Taco John
06-04-2006, 01:23 AM
...yea. Winning is not the best scenario right now though IMO (no worries though, they'll go back to their old ways during this next road trip). Hargrove needs to go, and a managerial change during their last off day would've been nice. We sweep the Royals with the new guy and everyone comes out smelling like flowers.

Alas...I'll always feel a little better when I remember that we have a top 2 second baseman and he's only 22.



I haven't gotten a good enough feel for the team yet to say who needs to stay or go. I've been a pretty casual fan up to this year. I've tried to get into baseball the last few years, but it was difficult because I was trying to do it through the Mariners, and they were done by the end of May. This year I started playing fantasy, and watching a lot more games and getting familiar with the rosters.

And you're right about that... Jose Lopez is kicking some butt out there. I'm not certain which criteria you're using to call him a top 2 second baseman, but he's definitely noteworthy.

WABronco
06-04-2006, 01:31 AM
I haven't gotten a good enough feel for the team yet to say who needs to stay or go. I've been a pretty casual fan up to this year. I've tried to get into baseball the last few years, but it was difficult because I was trying to do it through the Mariners, and they were done by the end of May. This year I started playing fantasy, and watching a lot more games and getting familiar with the rosters.

And you're right about that... Jose Lopez is kicking some butt out there. I'm not certain which criteria you're using to call him a top 2 second baseman, but he's definitely noteworthy.

Well, right now IMO, there's Chase Utley...and then Jose. He's sported a monsterous slugging percentage throughout his professional career. He's a double's machine and he's just now starting to jack some of those doubles out. Since he's learned to hit the other way he's become a monster. His career numbers compare very favorably to some big names (most notably Tejada). There are VERY few middle infielders out there that I'd rather have now than Jose.

Hargrove is just a bumbling idiot who is incapable of making adjustments, using a bullpen correctly, or getting the most out of his players. Everytime he makes another blunder some blogger out there just tees off...never fails. I mean, he's had his best hitter sac bunting for a good part of the season so far...that's just bad managing.

But, if you're going to become a serious fan, I'd put it off 'til next year. By then, we should have a nice rotation of Felix, Washburn, Daisuke Matsuzaka (Japan's top pitcher), top 5 draft pick, and the ageless Jamie Moyer. Things should be interesting next year...

Clockwork Orange
06-04-2006, 10:12 PM
The Rockies continue their run as a bunch of banjo hitters with runners in scoring position. Since May 1st they're hitting a collective .180 with runners in scoring position and they just got swept at home by the Marlins. Ugh.

On the bright side, Matt Holliday found his stroke today. 3 for 3 with a 455 foot bomb onto the concourse in left.

Rich Karlis
06-05-2006, 06:10 PM
The Skanks are bombing Beckett and the Sox. 8-2 in the second inning. Giambi and Phillips both hit 3 run homers in the inning.

Taco John
06-06-2006, 12:20 AM
BECKETT!!!! AUUUGH!!!

Maybe it would help Red Sox fans stomach recent developments if they could just do a simple mental gymnastic and create a new reality regarding the off-season trade that was supposed to position them for a title run.

Instead of viewing 2003 World Series MVP Josh Beckett as the jewel of the deal and Mike Lowell as the $18-million booby prize, Boston fans just need to reverse it in their minds. The new take: you got an All-Star, Gold Glove third baseman in exchange for uber-prospect Hanley Ramirez and lesser prospects Anibal Sanchez and Jesus Delgado, but you were forced to swallow a maddeningly inconsistent blister-prone pitcher in the deal.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5669984

Taco John
06-06-2006, 12:26 AM
That's two games in a row he got skunked like that... Dude is starting to worry me... Dammit... I was going to bench him too. I had him benched but figured I'd put a little faith in the kid.

One thing is for sure... He's done pitching against the Yankees and Blue Jays for me.

Now I just hope Roger pans out, and that things don't get so bad for Beckett that the Red Socks feel like they have to move Papelbon to SP.

WABronco
06-06-2006, 12:37 AM
Is it just me, or is Beckett slightly overrated? He seems to be a bit of a headcase, and his fastball is straight as an arrow (to my untrained eyes). He's got a nice curve, but good hitters can sit on it (actually, scratch that). Felix has the best curve I've ever seen, and he still gets knocked around time to time with it (actually, scratch that....only when he leaves it up;D ). I dunno though...when he's on he's on I guess.

I'm not suggesting that the trade was bad...but I can't imagine that BoSox fans are happy with Alex Gonzalez. Heh...

WABronco
06-06-2006, 12:40 AM
What does everyone think of the bruhaha over Milledge high fiving some fans at field level? I think the whole unwritten rule thing is BS. Get over it vets...he made two great plays and was acknowledging the fans.

-Slap-
06-06-2006, 08:41 PM
Francisco Liriano Vs Felix Hernandez right now!

-Slap-
06-06-2006, 08:44 PM
Cole Hamels on the mound, too.

Unbelievable how many good young arms there are in the majors right now.

Clockwork Orange
06-06-2006, 08:44 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2473485

SAN FRANCISCO -- Authorities who cracked the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative steroid scandal here are eying Arizona Diamondbacks reliever Jason Grimsley and others for steroid use, according to court documents unsealed late Tuesday.

In an application a judge approved to search Grimsley's house in Scottsdale, Ariz., federal investigators said Grimsley initially cooperated in the probe, but he withdrew his assistance in April after which he was alleged to have made "extensive statements" about illegal drug use, "for the purpose of performance enhancement," according to court documents. Grimsley's house was searched earlier Tuesday.

Internal Revenue Service agent Jeff Novitsky told a federal judge that investigators wanted to search the right-hander's house for "any and all records showing contact or relationship with any and all amateur or professional athletes, athletic coaches or athletic trainers" regarding illicit drug use and purchases.

"I have no comment about that and no idea about that," Grimsley told The Arizona Republic on Tuesday before the Diamondbacks played the Philadelphia Phillies.

Grimsley began his big league career with Philadelphia in 1989 and has pitched for Cleveland, California, the New York Yankees, Kansas City, Baltimore and Arizona. He has a career record of 42-58 with a 4.77 ERA.

Word of the Grimsley investigation comes nearly two months after an Illinois-based scientist prominent in the field of sports nutritional supplements pleaded guilty to supplying the BALCO lab with the performance-enhancing drug known as "the clear."

Patrick Arnold pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to distribute steroids. He's scheduled to be sentenced in August and most likely will face three months in jail and three months of home detention.

A federal grand jury indicted Arnold in November for conspiring with BALCO founder Victor Conte to distribute the once-undetectable substance tetrahydragestrinone.

A federal grand jury in San Francisco is also investigating whether San Francisco Giants outfielder Barry Bonds lied under oath about using "the clear." A separate federal grand jury is probing who leaked Bonds' testimony from the BALCO investigation to the San Francisco Chronicle.

So far, the BALCO probe has netted guilty pleas from Arnold, Conte, Bonds' trainer Greg Anderson, BALCO vice president James Valente and track coach Remi Korchemny.
------------------------------

Take 'em down one cheater at a time. :thumbs:

WABronco
06-06-2006, 08:46 PM
Francisco Liriano Vs Felix Hernandez right now!
Felix was on for the first two hitters...looks a little shaky now. M's had Liriano on the ropes in the first, but dumb**** Hargrove called for a bunt from no. 3 hitter Jose Lopez. ERGG!

WABronco
06-06-2006, 08:47 PM
Take 'em down one cheater at a time. :thumbs:
So much for the theory that steroids make a good pitcher...

HA

OrangeShadow
06-06-2006, 08:54 PM
Pauley did suprisingly well tonight. Beckett needs to get his act together and stop throwing all fastballs and mix in his breaking and off speed stuff

-Slap-
06-06-2006, 09:49 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2473485

SAN FRANCISCO -- Authorities who cracked the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative steroid scandal here are eying Arizona Diamondbacks reliever Jason Grimsley and others for steroid use, according to court documents unsealed late Tuesday.

In an application a judge approved to search Grimsley's house in Scottsdale, Ariz., federal investigators said Grimsley initially cooperated in the probe, but he withdrew his assistance in April after which he was alleged to have made "extensive statements" about illegal drug use, "for the purpose of performance enhancement," according to court documents. Grimsley's house was searched earlier Tuesday.

Internal Revenue Service agent Jeff Novitsky told a federal judge that investigators wanted to search the right-hander's house for "any and all records showing contact or relationship with any and all amateur or professional athletes, athletic coaches or athletic trainers" regarding illicit drug use and purchases.

"I have no comment about that and no idea about that," Grimsley told The Arizona Republic on Tuesday before the Diamondbacks played the Philadelphia Phillies.

Grimsley began his big league career with Philadelphia in 1989 and has pitched for Cleveland, California, the New York Yankees, Kansas City, Baltimore and Arizona. He has a career record of 42-58 with a 4.77 ERA.

Word of the Grimsley investigation comes nearly two months after an Illinois-based scientist prominent in the field of sports nutritional supplements pleaded guilty to supplying the BALCO lab with the performance-enhancing drug known as "the clear."

Patrick Arnold pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to distribute steroids. He's scheduled to be sentenced in August and most likely will face three months in jail and three months of home detention.

A federal grand jury indicted Arnold in November for conspiring with BALCO founder Victor Conte to distribute the once-undetectable substance tetrahydragestrinone.

A federal grand jury in San Francisco is also investigating whether San Francisco Giants outfielder Barry Bonds lied under oath about using "the clear." A separate federal grand jury is probing who leaked Bonds' testimony from the BALCO investigation to the San Francisco Chronicle.

So far, the BALCO probe has netted guilty pleas from Arnold, Conte, Bonds' trainer Greg Anderson, BALCO vice president James Valente and track coach Remi Korchemny.
------------------------------

Take 'em down one cheater at a time. :thumbs:

When is this damned witch hunt against Jason Grimsley going to end?

broncosteven
06-06-2006, 10:45 PM
Cintron Jacks a 3 run shot to put up the WC WS over DT who now have only 1 & 1/2 game lead over the WS Champs. I had a guitar lesson so listened to radio when Cintron hit the 3 run shot in 8th. Big Booby mowed down the top og the 9th inning players & shut door on Tiggers!

WABronco
06-06-2006, 11:30 PM
When is this damned witch hunt against Jason Grimsley going to end?
NEVER!

24champ
06-06-2006, 11:32 PM
Gagne records his first save this season! My save machine is starting up already.

Taco John
06-07-2006, 10:54 AM
MLB.TV! What a great value! I get to watch as many baseball games as I want for the entire season on my PC for $50 bucks!

My addiction is now being fed with a nice selection of games, instead of just whatever I am able to catch on the tube.

Taco John
06-07-2006, 02:03 PM
Torrealba with a grand slam...

9-2 Rockies over the Pirates at the top of the third...

bendog
06-07-2006, 02:32 PM
MLB.TV! What a great value! I get to watch as many baseball games as I want for the entire season on my PC for $50 bucks!

My addiction is now being fed with a nice selection of games, instead of just whatever I am able to catch on the tube.
Does it work ok? Does it freeze up all the time and make you restart?

Taco John
06-07-2006, 02:44 PM
Does it work ok? Does it freeze up all the time and make you restart?


So far, no complaints... I'm getting acceptable image quality (about what I'd expect for streaming video), good sound, and no freeze-ups... at least so far. I'm only in my first game. It's great because I've got an extra notebook that I set on my desk, and I can work while following a game...

Taco John
06-07-2006, 11:53 PM
Where's WABronco? Our boys are tied up at 9 with the Twins at the top of the 11th...

Taco John
06-08-2006, 12:11 AM
Woohoo! Carl Everett with a walk off home run in the bottom of the eleventh!

WABronco
06-08-2006, 12:20 AM
Where's WABronco? Our boys are tied up at 9 with the Twins at the top of the 11th...
I was busy setting up a noose to hang myself with after Soriano gave up that jack...

but...

CRAZY CARL (or C-Rex) GOES YARD! WOOT!!!!

WABronco
06-08-2006, 12:21 AM
I don't know what I would've done had they not won that game. 4 hr's and a loss (not counting Carl's)...damn.

GOOD THING THEY DIDN'T!

Taco John
06-08-2006, 12:24 AM
No doubt... Plus, it would have been a loss in a game that Ich got a dinger!

Great finish!

WABronco
06-08-2006, 12:29 AM
No doubt... Plus, it would have been a loss in a game that Ich got a dinger!

Great finish!
I love it when he leads off with a bomb...especially on the first pitch.

Pretty much everyone on the team outside of Ichiro, Jose, Raul, Johjima and Betancourt need to pick it up though. Richie's showing signs. Beltre's been adequate in the 2 hole. Carl's been struggling (not tonight!). Reed's been non-existent (thanks to Hargrove). Pitching staff's been consistently inconsistent. Bullpen's been good though...

WABronco
06-08-2006, 12:33 AM
Good think the West sucks!

Seattle's only one game behind Oakland!

Taco John
06-08-2006, 12:34 AM
Looks like we might be facing Bartolo Colon on Sunday in his return. Should be an interesting game.

WABronco
06-08-2006, 12:37 AM
Looks like we might be facing Bartolo Colon on Sunday in his return. Should be an interesting game.
Ooooo...that is cool.

Seems like Seattle has owned Colon since he's gone to Anaheim. At least they won't have to face Jered Weaver...yikes.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-08-2006, 01:16 AM
Good think the West sucks!

Seattle's only one game behind Oakland!

Sir, I take offense. The rest of the west might suck but the Rangers are playing extremely well.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-08-2006, 01:18 AM
MLB.TV! What a great value! I get to watch as many baseball games as I want for the entire season on my PC for $50 bucks!
.

You get to watch every game...except ones in which the team from your area is playing.

Taco John
06-08-2006, 01:45 AM
You get to watch every game...except ones in which the team from your area is playing.


Seattle is two and a half hours away from me, so I get every game regardless.

And if you wanted the games close to you, you could do it by getting a buddy out of the area to sign up for you using his credit card and address, and just paying him the $50 bucks.

From what I experienced today, I think it's a great investment if you enjoy watching baseball. I sat here working with the game on the laptop next to me. Most of the time I kind of zoned it out, and it was just background noise. Of course, when action was happening, I was able to look over and see what was going on. When the game started to get out of hand or I felt like following a new game, I simply switched over. Then after dinner, I decided to head upstairs to wrap up a few loose ends and flip on the game. I was delighted to find out the Mariners were in the bottom in the ninth in a tie game. Two extra innings later, the M's win. But that's not all... Each game has highlight clips that you can go down the board and click on.

All in all, a great investment for a baseball fan, IMO.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-08-2006, 01:47 AM
And if you wanted the games close to you, you could do it by getting a buddy out of the area to sign up for you using his credit card and address, and just paying him the $50 bucks.

I've tried that. It doesn't work. MLB blackout rules are horribly, horribly stupid.

OrangeShadow
06-08-2006, 05:35 AM
Bob,interested in seeing lester pitch saturday against your rangers?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-08-2006, 06:07 AM
Bob,interested in seeing lester pitch saturday against your rangers?
I haven't even payed any attention to the Red Sox since the rained out series. We're currently padding our record with the Royals. ROFL!

Who's Lester?

OrangeShadow
06-08-2006, 07:43 AM
The sox top pitching prospect. Hes a 25 year old lefty whos been in the minors for a couple years.

http://www.soxprospects.com/players/lester-jon.htm

Bob's your Information Minister
06-08-2006, 07:57 AM
The sox top pitching prospect. Hes a 25 year old lefty whos been in the minors for a couple years.

http://www.soxprospects.com/players/lester-jon.htm
Wow. Why can't every team have a site like that?

Sounds like a shorter Randy Johnson with not as much heat.

Taco John
06-08-2006, 09:06 AM
The sox top pitching prospect. Hes a 25 year old lefty whos been in the minors for a couple years.

http://www.soxprospects.com/players/lester-jon.htm



Holy cow! Looks like you jumped and rolled off safely enough from the Beckett bandwagon.

I'm not sure what to do with the guy myself. I guess bench him and hope he pulls out of it. Of course, Weaver is available in my little league, so that's tempting, only I'll get scoffed at a little for jumping off at the first sign of trouble.

OrangeShadow
06-08-2006, 10:16 AM
Im very superstitious(sp) so im trying whatever will work lol. I think beckett needs to incoperate is curveball and breaking pitches earlier in outings. His fastball doesnt have enough movement for what hes trying to do(jam it down the hitters throat when he doesnt have his other pitches). I hope and think he will make adjustments and have a better second half as well as a second season in the AL.

bendog
06-08-2006, 10:55 AM
I think Bob is actually Bob in Bonedale.

Bleak day on treadmill.

Cubs Braves nil. Giants v. Broncos on

Tennis skirts only hope

WABronco
06-08-2006, 12:01 PM
Sir, I take offense. The rest of the west might suck but the Rangers are playing extremely well.
Hmmm...okay.

WABronco
06-08-2006, 09:32 PM
Nice pitching staff you got there bob!

Oh...wait, maybe I shouldn't be talking.

SoCalBronco
06-08-2006, 09:59 PM
Updated: June 8, 2006, 11:26 PM ET
Report: Feds wanted Grimsley to help implicate BondsESPN.com news services


PHOENIX -- An attorney for released Arizona Diamondbacks pitcher Jason Grimsley said Wednesday that federal agents tried to pressure the player into wearing a listening device in an effort to collect incriminating evidence against San Francisco Giants slugger Barry Bonds, The Arizona Republic reported.

"It was a specific effort to target Bonds," attorney Edward F. Novak told the newspaper. "We were told that Jason's cooperation was necessary to their case."

Novak also told the newspaper that Grimsley denied volunteering names of fellow players, as reported in court documents released Tuesday. Instead, federal agents asked Grimsley what he knew about the illegal drug habits of specific athletes, such as former Mets and Phillies outfielder Lenny Dykstra.

Novak said Grimsley subsequently "was outed by the feds" because he didn't cooperate, the Republic reported.

Alleged Latin connection
MIAMI -- Almost as surprising as Jason Grimsley's admission of banned substance abuse was the Diamondbacks' pitcher's assertion that "Latin players" were a major source of amphetamines.

Diamondbacks right-hander Miguel Batista told ESPNdeportes.com: "I'm really surprised by all of this, I still don't understand what's going on, much less the notion that Latin players are responsible for bringing amphetamines into baseball clubhouses."

The Diamondbacks released Grimsley on Wednesday, one day after his home was searched by federal agents as part of an investigation into steroid use by athletes.

"I didn't know Grimsley all that well, but he seemed like a great guy," said Batista. "We still need more time to assimilate what's happening. Maybe when we see that complete documents of what Grimsley said we'll have a better idea."

-- Enrique Rojas, ESPNdeportes.com



"They asked him specifically about Barry Bonds, and Jason said he didn't know Bonds well and didn't know if he did or didn't use drugs," Novak told the paper.

Novak did not immediately return after-hours calls left Thursday at his office by The Associated Press.

Investigators then asked Grimsley whether he knew any of Bonds' teammates who might confide in Grimsley about the slugger's alleged use of performance enhancements, Novak said. Grimsley refused, telling investigators that "baseball players don't go around talking about who is using and who isn't," Novak added.

While Grimsley's lawyer said the right-hander disputes much of what was in the affidavit released Tuesday, he did not deny past use of performance-enhancing drugs. "He has admitted his past steroid use," Novak said.

But he apparently named members of the 2005 Orioles as amphetamine users in his interview with an IRS agent, The Baltimore Sun reported Thursday.

The Diamondbacks released Grimsley earlier Wednesday, one day after his home was searched by federal agents as part of an investigation into steroid use by athletes.

The raid -- and Grimsley's implication of other major league ballplayers -- was the latest sign that widespread investigations into drug use by athletes are still active, even in the era of tougher testing.

"Clearly," U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan said, "we're not done."

Grimsley's agent Joe Bick told The Associated Press he thought this would mark the end of the 38-year-old reliever's career.

"My guess is Jason's done playing," Bick said in a telephone interview. "I couldn't anticipate that he would play again, but that's his call.

"He didn't want to be a distraction to the team," he said.

"I am deeply saddened whenever there is an allegation that a Major League Baseball player is involved in the use of performance-enhancing substances," commissioner Bud Selig said in a statement. "Because this is an ongoing criminal investigation, I will not make any comment about this specific case. As a general matter, however, I urge everyone associated with Major League Baseball -- from the players to the union to the owners -- to cooperate with the ongoing investigations by the federal government and by former Sen. George Mitchell."

Diamondbacks general manager Josh Byrnes said that Grimsley had requested his unconditional release in meetings with team officials Tuesday and Wednesday.

"We accepted his request," Byrnes said.

As for the remainder of Grimsley's $825,000 salary, "there was no negotiation," Bick said. "Released players get paid."

Diamondbacks pitcher Terry Mulholland said Grimsley addressed his teammates after the loss to the Philadelphia Phillies on Tuesday.

"He expressed to us that he had too much respect for us to allow this to bring us down," Mulholland said. "He's that kind of guy."

Grimsley's locker in the calm clubhouse was empty when the room was opened to the media Wednesday before a game with the Phillies.

Thirteen federal agents had searched Grimsley's house in Scottsdale, Ariz., for six hours Tuesday, according to Internal Revenue Service agent Mark Lessler, who would not say what they found.

Investigators who cracked the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operativesteroid scandal in San Francisco said Grimsley initially cooperated in the probe but withdrew his assistance in April, prompting the search.

Authorities tracked a package containing two "kits" of human growth hormone -- about a season's supply -- that was delivered at Grimsley's house on April 19, court documents released Tuesday showed.

Moments later, agents armed with a warrant offered him an option: Cooperate with their investigation into athletes using performance-enhancing drugs or submit to an immediate search. Grimsley agreed to be interviewed.

An affadavit in support of that raid said agents had tracked a package containing human growth hormone to Grimsley's house April 19 and confronted him at his door. Novak said agents coerced Grimsley into cooperating to avoid being embarrassed in front of friends and family members at the home.



"They specifically told him, 'Don't call a lawyer,'" Novak said. "They let him know that if he didn't cooperate, they basically would terrorize his family and come in with guns drawn and lights flashing."


The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of California said in a statement Wednesday that the search was "conducted in an entirely appropriate and legal fashion."


Grimsley told investigators he paid for a shipment of HGH while with the Orioles and said he had purchased the substance 10 to 12 times over several years, The Sun reported.

He proceeded to detail his "receipt and use of anabolic steroids, amphetamines and human growth hormone over the last several years" but said he went exclusively with HGH when baseball's testing program began.

Baseball doesn't test for HGH, and MLB executive vice president Rob Manfred said HGH "is a problem for all sports because there is no universally accepted and validated test."

"No governing body in any sport has ever been able to discipline an athlete for the use of HGH," he said.

Grimsley also identified several other players who he said had used or supplied the drugs, though their names were blacked out from court documents. They included a handful of former teammates and one player he identified as one of his "better friends in baseball," adding that it was common knowledge that "Latin players" were a major source for amphetamines; the Arizona Republic reported that major leaguers on California teams who could easily travel to Mexico to buy the drugs were also a source.

He also identified a personal fitness trainer to several major league ballplayers who once referred him to someone that later supplied him with an array of drugs.

"I have no comment about that and no idea about that," Grimsley told The Arizona Republic on Tuesday, hours before the Diamondbacks played the Phillies.

After Arizona's 10-1 loss, manager Bob Melvin said news of the investigation might have affected the team. Grimsley spent the game in the bullpen and warmed up at one point.

Grimsley began his big-league career with Philadelphia in 1989 and has pitched for Cleveland, California, the New York Yankees, Kansas City, Baltimore and Arizona. He has a career record of 42-58 with a 4.77 ERA.

According to court documents, Grimsley failed a league drug test in 2003. Authorities said when he was cooperating, he admitted to using human growth hormone, amphetamines and steroids.

He added that amphetamine use was prevalent in pro baseball and that it was placed in coffee in clubhouses -- marked "leaded" or "unleaded" to indicate which pots contained the drugs -- IRS agent Jeff Novitsky wrote.

The investigation is being run by prosecutors and authorities in San Francisco, where five BALCO defendants pleaded guilty to distributing or developing steroids. Ryan said the government probe will "diligently follow the evidence."

A federal grand jury in San Francisco is also investigating whether Bonds lied under oath about using the performance-enhancing drug known as "the clear" during his grand jury testimony that led to the indictment of four people connected to BALCO.

The issue of athletes and drugs has been a constant topic in sports, heightened when Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro and Sammy Sosa testified before Congress last year and further fueled by the Grimsley developments.

"It can't be more of a distraction than it already is," New York Yankees pitcher Mike Mussina said. "Every time Barry Bonds comes up to the plate, they're talking about it. How much longer can you keep talking about the same subject?"

Word of the Grimsley investigation comes nearly two months after an Illinois-based scientist prominent in the field of sports nutritional supplements pleaded guilty to supplying the BALCO lab with the performance-enhancing drug known as "the clear."

Patrick Arnold pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to distribute steroids to BALCO, a steroid ring that San Francisco investigators broke up two years ago. Those same authorities are targeting Grimsley.

Arnold is scheduled to be sentenced in August and will most likely face three months in jail and three months of home detention.

A separate federal grand jury is probing who leaked Bonds' testimony from the BALCO investigation to the San Francisco Chronicle.

So far, the BALCO probe has netted guilty pleas from Arnold, BALCO president Victor Conte, Bonds' trainer Greg Anderson, BALCO vice president James Valente and track coach Remi Korchemny.

Diamondbacks managing general partner Ken Kendrick told reporters in the dugout before the game Wednesday that the players' association and management need to get together on even tougher drug testing.

"We just hope the union will look at it as we do," Kendrick said. "We've got to do the very best that is possible to rid ourselves of any and all drugs in our game."

Former Kansas City teammate Jeremy Affeldt said he talked to Grimsley earlier Wednesday.

"He's down. It's an embarrassing thing when you get caught. It was a judgment call on his part. I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he would deny that," Affeldt said.

Grimsley previously made headlines in 1999 when he confessed to his role in the Albert Belle corked bat caper.

Grimsley, who had been Belle's teammate with Cleveland, admitted he worked his way through a crawl space at Comiskey Park in 1994 and dropped through the ceiling in the umpires' room to replace the illegal bat.

"I went sky diving once, and I can compare it to that," Grimsley said at the time. "The adrenaline rush I got from that caper was just like jumping out of an airplane. It was being in a place you're not supposed to be."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2474291

-Slap-
06-09-2006, 12:01 PM
I just traded Berkman and Figgins for ARod.

:)

Taco John
06-09-2006, 12:21 PM
I just traded Berkman and Figgins for ARod.

:)


Wow! Nice deal!

-Slap-
06-09-2006, 04:36 PM
Wow! Nice deal!
It might still get vetoed. Unfortunately, the higher you are in the standings, the harder it is to get deals through in some leagues.

WABronco
06-09-2006, 08:26 PM
Rockies traded Eli Marrero for Kaz Matsui! Wow...

Taco John
06-10-2006, 04:17 PM
Trades should only be vetoed for reasons of obvious collusion...

Taco John
06-10-2006, 04:26 PM
Looks like Gagne is heading back to the DL... That's gotta smart, eh Slap?

Not for me... I have Baez in both my leagues. In fact, as many here know, I traded Joe Nathan and Chone Figgins for Texiera, and the guy I traded to dropped Baez along the way. Guess who picked him up? ;D

-Slap-
06-10-2006, 05:24 PM
Trades should only be vetoed for reasons of obvious collusion...
And then there's the real world.

-Slap-
06-10-2006, 05:25 PM
Looks like Gagne is heading back to the DL... That's gotta smart, eh Slap?

Not for me... I have Baez in both my leagues. In fact, as many here know, I traded Joe Nathan and Chone Figgins for Texiera, and the guy I traded to dropped Baez along the way. Guess who picked him up? ;D
Takashi Saito might be the fallback option at closer in Los Angeles because Baez blew so many save opps.

WABronco
06-10-2006, 06:49 PM
Takashi Saito might be the fallback option at closer in Los Angeles because Baez blew so many save opps.
24...you hunk of crap! I was loging in to specifically pick up Saito for Rodney! You bastard! That's like the 4th time this year that I've logged in to get a certain player only to find that he's been taken...

WABronco
06-10-2006, 09:47 PM
Memo to Scioscia (sp):

Quit walking Ibanez to get to Sexson, dumbass. Notice those grandslams, do ya Mikey?

SouthStndJunkie
06-10-2006, 10:20 PM
My Tigers took University of North Carolina left-hander Andrew Miller aka Dr. Destroy with the 6th overall pick. He is regarded as the best prospect in the draft, but teams were wary of his asking price.

Verlander 2 years ago, Cameron Maybin last year and Andrew Miller this year.

WABronco
06-10-2006, 10:37 PM
My Tigers took University of North Carolina left-hander Andrew Miller aka Dr. Destroy with the 6th overall pick. He is regarded as the best prospect in the draft, but teams were wary of his asking price.

Verlander 2 years ago, Cameron Maybin last year and Andrew Miller this year.
Yea...loading up a farm system feels good, don't it?

I can't wait to see Jeff Clement jackin' homers in Safeco...or Brandon Morrow going 9 strong for a win!

I would've liked Miller, but I'm happy with Morrow.

WABronco
06-10-2006, 10:39 PM
Ichiro is a freakin' beast.

SouthStndJunkie
06-10-2006, 11:06 PM
Yea...loading up a farm system feels good, don't it?

I can't wait to see Jeff Clement jackin' homers in Safeco...or Brandon Morrow going 9 strong for a win!

I would've liked Miller, but I'm happy with Morrow.

Yep, the Tigers are finally starting to load up the farm system with some talent.

Taco John
06-11-2006, 02:45 AM
Nice. Another save from Kenny Ray. That's two on the week! Meanwhile, Joe Nathan is sitting with zero on the week. So far so good on that front. Now if I can get Teix hitting better than 3 for 21 with only 1 Run and 1 RBI.

-Slap-
06-11-2006, 02:23 PM
Francisco Liriano with another dominant performance today. He's leaving with a 4-0 lead after seven innings of one-hit ball against Baltimore today. If the bullpen hangs on, his record will improve to 5-1, to go along with his tidy 2.10 ERA.

Meanwhile, Twins catcher Joe Mauer started the day batting .388!

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2006, 02:44 PM
Big Papi can suck my ass. :pfbbt:

SouthStndJunkie
06-11-2006, 03:00 PM
Joel Zumaya was clocked at 102 mph in the Tigers game today.

Dude has filthy stuff. He should be the closer soon in my opinion....Todd Jones and his 7+ ERA needs to be replaced in the near future. I prefer to keep Rodney in the setup role.

-Slap-
06-11-2006, 03:25 PM
Fugging Jake Peavy. Getting punched around at home by Florida. I swear to Branch Rickey, I won't be drafting any pitchers before round five next year.

Pendejo
06-11-2006, 04:11 PM
Fugging Jake Peavy. Getting punched around at home by Florida. I swear to Branch Rickey, I won't be drafting any pitchers before round five next year.

I think his shoulder tendonitis is really bothering him. He's still striking a lot of guys out...a la 10 in 5 today, but he's also throwing a ton of pitches. 103 in 5 innings. He just doesn't seem right. He's been one of the filthiest pitchers in the game over the past two seasons...this season doesn't reflect that. I hope that he's just having a bad year, and I'm wrong about his shoulder.

WABronco
06-11-2006, 04:21 PM
Francisco Liriano with another dominant performance today. He's leaving with a 4-0 lead after seven innings of one-hit ball against Baltimore today. If the bullpen hangs on, his record will improve to 5-1, to go along with his tidy 2.10 ERA.

Meanwhile, Twins catcher Joe Mauer started the day batting .388!
Ahhhh...how good it feels to have Liriano AND Felix. CHA CHING!

Felix just went 9 strong. Struck out 9 (I think), no walks, a ridiculous GB/FB ratio (like 2 flyballs)...general ownage.

-Slap-
06-11-2006, 04:32 PM
Ahhhh...how good it feels to have Liriano AND Felix. CHA CHING!

Felix just went 9 strong. Struck out 9 (I think), no walks, a ridiculous GB/FB ratio (like 2 flyballs)...general ownage.
Yeah, I had them paired up on several teams today.

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/ANA101061117_lower.jpg

OrangeShadow
06-12-2006, 05:24 AM
Big Papi can suck my ass. :pfbbt:

BWUAHAHAHAHA
you guys got the split but papi OWNS:thumbs:

WABronco
06-12-2006, 11:07 AM
BWUAHAHAHAHA
you guys got the split but papi OWNS:thumbs:
Edgar Martinez was the real Papi!

Taco John
06-14-2006, 03:36 AM
Anyone care to fill me in on Michael Young? What's his story?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-14-2006, 03:47 AM
Anyone care to fill me in on Michael Young? What's his story?

The Rangers shortstop? What do you want to know?

OrangeShadow
06-14-2006, 04:49 AM
AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH freaking TAVAREZ!!!!!!!!!!!! that prick is USELESS
:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
wastes a great pitched game by schill pap and timlin

Taco John
06-14-2006, 01:23 PM
Mil @ Cin 0-0 with 2 outs in the top of the 9th... Great game!

Taco John
06-14-2006, 01:23 PM
The Rangers shortstop? What do you want to know?



Why did I draft him so early for what he's producing... :cuss:

Taco John
06-14-2006, 01:26 PM
Ah... my bad. It was the bottom of the 9th... Now the top of the 10th at 0-0.

Taco John
06-14-2006, 01:45 PM
So what are some good fantasy sites out there? Any good discussion boards that anyone can point me to?

Taco John
06-14-2006, 09:52 PM
Wow... M's are getting killed by the A's. *sigh*

WABronco
06-14-2006, 09:58 PM
Wow... M's are getting killed by the A's. *sigh*
Joel Pineiro...the M's need to DFA his junkballing ass. ARGGHHH!

BTW Taco, have you checked out all the M's blogs out there? A lot of them are quite good, and there's a few ran by former ML'ers. Lookoutlanding.com is the best, and their running-game threads are always fun.

Taco John
06-14-2006, 10:04 PM
Cool. Thanks for the tip. I am devoid of good baseball links right now, except the major sites (ESPN, Sporting News, etc.). I'd google some, but they seem to be pretty hit and miss...

-Slap-
06-14-2006, 10:26 PM
So what are some good fantasy sites out there? Any good discussion boards that anyone can point me to?
This place will steer you to a lot of different sites that provide a spectrum of coverage.

http://www.sportfanatics.net/Baseball.htm

Taco John
06-14-2006, 10:30 PM
Thanks Slap.

WABronco
06-14-2006, 10:30 PM
Cool. Thanks for the tip. I am devoid of good baseball links right now, except the major sites (ESPN, Sporting News, etc.). I'd google some, but they seem to be pretty hit and miss...
Although...most of us are currently on suicide watch so you may just want to stay away if you're serious about becoming an M's fan.:giggle:

Taco John
06-14-2006, 10:31 PM
Man, what is up with this crappy A's stadium? Do all stadiums have this much foul territory? I don't remember seeing so many foul balls run down in a game.