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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
03-27-2006, 04:41 PM
Mon Mar 27, 2:13 AM ET

NEW YORK (AFP) - US President George W. Bush made clear to British Prime Minister Tony Blair in January 2003 that he was determined to invade
Iraq without a UN resolution and even if UN arms inspectors failed to find weapons of mass destruction in the country, The New York Times reported.


Citing a confidential British memorandum, the newspaper said the president was certain that war was inevitable and made his view known during a private two-hour meeting with Blair in the Oval Office on January 31, 2003.

Information about the meeting was contained in the memo written by Blair's top foreign policy adviser and reviewed by The Times.

"Our diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning," the paper quotes David Manning, Blair's chief foreign policy adviser at the time, as noting in the memo.

" 'The start date for the military campaign was now penciled in for 10 March,' Mr. Manning wrote, paraphrasing the president. 'This was when the bombing would begin'," the paper continued.

The timetable came at an important diplomatic moment, the paper said.

Five days after the Bush-Blair meeting, then US secretary of state
Colin Powell was scheduled to appear before the United Nations to present evidence that Iraq posed a threat to world security by hiding unconventional weapons.

Stamped "extremely sensitive," the five-page memorandum had not been made public, according to the report. Several highlights were first published in January in the book "Lawless World," which was written by British lawyer and international law professor Philippe Sands.

In early February, Channel 4 in London first broadcast excerpts from the memo.

But since then, The New York Times has been able to review the five-page memo in its entirety.

The document indicates the two leaders envisioned a quick victory and a transition to a new Iraqi government that would be complicated, but manageable, the paper said.

Bush predicted that it was "unlikely there would be internecine warfare between the different religious and ethnic groups." Blair agreed with that assessment.

The memo also shows that the president and the prime minister acknowledged that no unconventional weapons had been found inside Iraq, The Times noted.

Faced with the possibility of not finding any before the planned invasion, Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a US surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire, or assassinating Iraqi president Saddam Hussein.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060327/pl_afp/usbritainbushiraqdiplomacy_060327064943;_ylt=ArjMX fTZ7iJ0.3EGwjZ5SnFqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlY wMlJVRPUCUl

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
03-27-2006, 05:18 PM
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
03-28-2006, 10:41 PM
Bump...

Bush Was Set on War

NY Times is catching up!

In the weeks before he invaded, Bush's public ultimatum to Saddam was blunt: Disarm or face war. But behind closed doors, the president was certain that war was inevitable.

During a private two-hour meeting in the Oval Office on Jan. 31, 2003, he made clear to Blair that he was determined to invade Iraq without the second resolution, or even if arms inspectors came up empty, said a confidential memo about the meeting written by Mr. Blair's top foreign policy adviser.

"Our diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning," David Manning, Blair's chief foreign policy adviser at the time, wrote in the Bush-Blair meeting summary.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/27/international/europe/27memo.html?_r=6&hp&ex=1143435600&en=b6593aee0e01d384&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=slog&oref=login

Time to Talk War Crimes

The Nuremberg trials after World War II established universal rules against aggressive wars, principles that George W. Bush willfully violated by invading Iraq. A newly disclosed memo from January 2003 reveals Bush's contempt for these fundamental rules of international behavior as well as his plans to trick the public into accepting his actions. The evidence now is increasingly clear that in a world where might did not make right, Bush and his advisers would be in shackles at the Hague facing war crimes tribunals.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/032706.html

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Spider
03-29-2006, 10:14 AM
The right never should have came up with the talking point ... it is all the Medias fault . It seems like the Media has decided to fight back ...... you realy need the media in your corner on this .............

Old Dude
03-29-2006, 11:30 AM
Mon Mar 27, 2:13 AM ET

NEW YORK (AFP) - ....

Bush predicted that it was "unlikely there would be internecine warfare between the different religious and ethnic groups." Blair agreed with that assessment.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060327/pl_afp/usbritainbushiraqdiplomacy_060327064943;_ylt=ArjMX fTZ7iJ0.3EGwjZ5SnFqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlY wMlJVRPUCUl

What were these guys smoking?

freak6
03-29-2006, 12:24 PM
Stoopid fkn idiots got my buddies blown the fk up.

If his twins were on the front lines, no way would we have gone into Iraq, no fking way.

Bush is worse than the terrorists in terms of damage done to the United States.

TailgateNut
03-29-2006, 12:42 PM
Stoopid fkn idiots got my buddies blown the fk up.

If his twins were on the front lines, no way would we have gone into Iraq, no fking way.

Bush is worse than the terrorists in terms of damage done to the United States.

Sorry to hear about losing your Buds! I lost a few while I was in the military, and it's tough.
The bad part is that there are still a few who believe our excursion in Iraq is justified!

Cito Pelon
03-29-2006, 02:33 PM
It's just a chess game to some people. Don't forget, back when Bush and Blair were trying to get the Security Council to authorize the war, Russia, China, and France, all it would have taken was for one of them to be on our side.

The bottom line with those three is that they are not interested in cooperating with anybody to promote global stability. They had their own personal agendas throughout the entire debate, and they went with their own agendas. They like to keep the planet polarized, Russia and China that is. France, who knows what the f their thinking is. They just like to be different, I guess.

enjolras
03-29-2006, 02:59 PM
It's just a chess game to some people. Don't forget, back when Bush and Blair were trying to get the Security Council to authorize the war, Russia, China, and France, all it would have taken was for one of them to be on our side.

The bottom line with those three is that they are not interested in cooperating with anybody to promote global stability. They had their own personal agendas throughout the entire debate, and they went with their own agendas. They like to keep the planet polarized, Russia and China that is. France, who knows what the f their thinking is. They just like to be different, I guess.

I don't really get your point. So the U.S. was correct, and everyone else was just being a dick? Is that the general jist?

Play2win
03-29-2006, 05:06 PM
Why can't we start Impeachment Proceedings, NOW, and use Tony Blare as the "Star" Witness...

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
03-29-2006, 06:02 PM
What were these guys smoking?

Some serious dirt weed.

Bush Pressuring Iraqi Leader to Step Aside

Those elections were a sham like all Bush "elections"

Senior Shiite politicians said today that the American ambassador has told Shiite officials to inform the Iraqi prime minister that President Bush does not want him to remain the country's leader in the next government.

It is the first time the Americans have directly intervened in the furious debate over the country's top job, the politicians said, and it is inflaming tensions between the Americans and some Shiite leaders.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/28/international/middleeast/28cnd-iraq.html?ex=1301202000&en=15493a3118442a2c&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss