Random Draft Thoughts Thread

[SouthStndJunkie]

Here is a thread to throw out some of your random draft thoughts.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Here are a few random draft thoughts....let's hear yours.

Pat Kirwan was talking about Jay Cutler and the Broncos this morning and how they could trade up into the 10 range to get him without giving up the #22 pick. Interesting, but I can't see him getting past the Raiders at 7.

I think Kiwanuka is being undervalued in this draft.

I know that most scenarios have us getting our pick of LenDale, DeAngelo Williams, or Maroney at 15, but this is the kind of draft where someone has one of them in their sights and will trade up. Teams like NE and Indi would love to get their hands on one of these backs. I think DeAngelo Williams is coveted by a team who thinks he is the next great thing. I am not sure who, but I bet somebody takes him in the top 10-15 for sure.

I think most of the top-rated corners scare me a little in this draft and am glad we don't need one badly. Tye Hill from Clemson is the best of the bunch though.

Maurice Stovall, WR, ND is projected as a mid-2nd round pick....I get the sneaking feeling he will go late first/very early second round.

Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State will be a steal for some team in Round 2.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Also.....Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas is very undervalued in this draft.

[Rascal]

If DW2 is there at 15 and we don't plan on taking him we have to trade down to a team that does want him. Especially with him running that 4.38 on a bad track at his pro day.

I'd love to pick him though.

Apparently San Fran loves him and could end up taking him. If so Vernon Davis could fall and we should make a move to get him.

If he is there at #10 we need to trade with the Cards and get him. If Bunkley is there at 13 we need to trade with the Ravens and get him.

[Crushaholic]

Everything I've seen regarding Jay Cutler convinces me that a top 10 selection is a reach. If the QB crop was better, he would probably be second round material or later.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I think the Browns will nab Bunkley at 12 if he is there.

[Rascal]

I think the Browns will nab Bunkley at 12 if he is there.

I just don't see Bunkley being a good NT in a 3-4. He might be a decent DE I guess but not ideal for a 3-4 alignment.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I just don't see Bunkley being a good NT in a 3-4. He might be a decent DE I guess but not ideal for a 3-4 alignment.
Yea i have to agree on that he is a one-gap DT not a two-gap. He doesnt have the wieght to clog up the middle. If a 3-4 team takes Bunkley then I hope they are drafting him to play DE.

[ludo21]

Mike Bell talk has been queited down. But I still think that he is a REAL possibility in the later rounds.

Also is Huff being moved to corner in the NFL?

[Paladin]

I think the Texans will take D'Brick. That will shake up the whole draft. that would mean the Faids would get VY and perhaps the Broncos trade up for Davis or grab Pope at 22.

[anthonypacino]

I don't know if anything is a sure bet this year, unlike when Carson Palmer agreed to a deal like a month before the draft? I like Dominick Davis, I think he is a good back, he has put up numbers with a crappy line, get him some help and he will be a star, they committed to Carr but I think they would also look at someone else. Kubiak is not a dumb man, it will be hard to gauge what he will do since the Broncos under his mentor Shanny have no experience that high in the draft. Could you see a possible trade from the Fade for the Texans first pick? a Dallas/Minnesota type trade, allowing the Raiders to go after Bush and allowing the Texans to build their team in the draft for the next 3-4 years like Dallas did? I might be thinking that if I was kubiak

[Drek]

Yea i have to agree on that he is a one-gap DT not a two-gap. He doesnt have the wieght to clog up the middle. If a 3-4 team takes Bunkley then I hope they are drafting him to play DE.
Romeo Crennel had no qualms moving Richard Seymour outside and that was after he was an established NFL DT. If they take Bunkley I think its because Crennel sees him as his version of Seymour.

I personally think the Browns would be best served taking a linebacker, namely Ernie Sims (unless Hawk falls, but thats doubtful).

[Traveler]

Since none of the RB's in the 1st round (save Bush) are considered francise backs, why not look at back on day two. I heard Brian Calhoun ran a 4.3 40 at his pro day. Grab him or Mike Bell in the later rounds. Focus on BPA in the first 2 rounds.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I just don't see Bunkley being a good NT in a 3-4. He might be a decent DE I guess but not ideal for a 3-4 alignment.

The Browns see him as an ideal DE in their 3-4 scheme.

[BritBronco Maniac]

Since none of the RB's in the 1st round (save Bush) are considered francise backs, why not look at back on day two. I heard Brian Calhoun ran a 4.3 40 at his pro day. Grab him or Mike Bell in the later rounds. Focus on BPA in the first 2 rounds.

I consider DW2 a franchise back.

Lendales stats as a second string RB are eye-popping.

I think they are both safer selections than any of the QB's in the draft.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I consider DW2 a franchise back.

Lendales stats as a second string RB are eye-popping.

I think they are both safer selections than any of the QB's in the draft.
Yea i am too tired to try to tell another person about D.Will. so they want to hate well let em hate and watch how he turns out.

[Paladin]

My problem with D.Will is that the is a small man. I just don't see how he is going to get through the 300 pounders in the Dlnes. The Dlines in the pros are, individually and collectively, bigger, faster and more aggressive than the college lines.

Time will tell, I guess.

[eddie mac]

The Browns see him as an ideal DE in their 3-4 scheme.

Correct SSJ, Browns have a major hard-on for this guy and who can blame them. IMO if we want Bunkley we have to get to 11 minimum. After learning the comp pick news of just 1 4th rounder I hope we trade down that 15th pick to someone who is desperate to draft a RB and give us decent picks in return. If we cant get Bunkley or Davis in this draft I'd rather trade down.

[Elway777]

I think the Broncos will take Chad Jackson and Kiwi in the first. I hope they draft DW2 and Pope but I think the Broncos love Jackson so I think they will take Him at 15.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Pinegar will be as good an NFL QB as Cutler and probably sooner.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I think the Broncos will take Chad Jackson and Kiwi in the first. I hope they draft DW2 and Pope but I think the Broncos love Jackson so I think they will take Him at 15.

I hope not...I think Chad Jackson is overrated, a second round prospect.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I think Gerald Riggs Jr. would make a nice 4th round pick.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I think Greg Lee, WR, Pitt will be a good player regardless of the 40 time he ran.

Omar Jacobs is overrated.

I think D'Qwell Jackson is going to be a heck of a player for some team.

Same goes for Thomas Howard of UTEP.

[SouthStndJunkie]

A guy I would like to see Denver draft is John McCargo, DT, NC State

He is on the rise, but if he is there at 61, he would look nice next to Warren.

Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan is a guy on the rise as well and for good reason. He was super productive, is tough, and runs good routes. I saw him play several times as I am in the middle of MAC country.

[Killericon]

Lendale is overrated....His performace was made great by USC's dominaant Offensive Line. He's another Ron Dayne, or Tyrone Wheatley. Pass.

We NEED to trade up for Vernon Davis. Whatever it takes. Preferably our #15 and someone noone cares about.....Carlslie maybe.

This is the weakest WR Class in years. Not a one of these guys would've been taken before the 2nd round in last year's draft. Anyone who takes one in the first is a fool.

Noone will draft Cutler in the top 10. Hell, I can see Vince Young falling to #10...There's just not enough need for QBs out there...There's plenty of young talent availible, and all the most desperate teams already adressed their issues in Free Agency.

Micheal Huff will win Defensive Rookie of the Year.

Anyone who drafts Super Mario is not gonna see production out of him for 2 Years...he's undersized, and it will take some time to adjust to the monstrous Offensive lineman of the NFL. That's not to say he's not gonna have a great Career, it's just I would'nt expect instant Pro Bowler status out of him.

The Texans would love to trade down. They don't want Bush, but they know that he's too good to pass up, so they want as much as they can get for that pick.

Speaking of Bush, if he goes to the Texans, he's not gonna burst out of the gate. For the first season and a half, he'll get 10 touches a game, tops, just becasue of Dominick Davis' presence(Unless they trade him. They would love that).

The Raiders will NOT draft QB. They have Andrew Walter, Tuiasosopo, and Aaron Brooks, and the team beleives they are set at the posistion for some time.

If Deangelo Williams is availible at #22, there should be no question; Take him.

Those would be MY draft thoughts....and I know most of them will be proven wrong.

[doof]

Mario Williams is 6-7 295, and he will be an instant impact player if he can learn to play more consistantly, meaning giving more effort and refining his technique. He has all the tools necessary to be a star within his first 2 years much like Shawn Merriman last year.

[maven]

I'd like to see Denver draft Devin Hester for KR & PR. I'd like to see this position solidified once & for all. Save DW for full-time corner duties. Also, get Hester some reps at WR.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I'd like to see Denver draft Devin Hester for KR & PR. I'd like to see this position solidified once & for all. Save DW for full-time corner duties. Also, get Hester some reps at WR.

I am interested in seeing what round value you give Hester.

[Kaylore]

I've really cooled on all the first round running back talent.

I like if we can't find a TE in this draft our FO should be publicly scorned.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I've really cooled on all the first round running back talent.

I like if we can't find a TE in this draft our FO should be publicly scorned.

I am cool with the first round running back talent and would have no problem taking one of them.

As for TE....I would like Marcedes Lewis at 61, if he lasts that long.

[Crushaholic]

The only player I see that is tailor made for the Broncos is Greg Eslinger. His college game fits the Broncos to a T.

[Killericon]

I've really cooled on all the first round running back talent.

I like if we can't find a TE in this draft our FO should be publicly scorned.

Nevermind Scorned.....They should be sentanced to Death by Sodomy.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

The only player I see that is tailor made for the Broncos is Greg Eslinger. His college game fits the Broncos to a T.

but - Broncs already have three Centers. It is the strongest position on the team.

[Clockwork Orange]

Mayock just said on the NFL Network Draft Show that he's heard from some NFL personnell that Claude Wroten could fall all the way out of day 1. If he's there at 61, I'd be very tempted to nab him.

[SoCalBronco]

Mayock just said on the NFL Network Draft Show that he's heard from some NFL personnell that Claude Wroten could fall all the way out of day 1. If he's there at 61, I'd be very tempted to nab him.

He would have to be a very strong consideration at 61. He's probably the 2nd best 1 gap DT in the entire draft.

[meangene]

Overrated - Kiwi, Jackson.
Underrated - Anthony Smith, Fasano, Wimbley.

[Rascal]

Hey Socal and SSJ I'm curious as to what your ideal mocks would look like.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Hey Socal and SSJ I'm curious as to what your ideal mocks would look like.

I will be probably be doing a mock over the weekend.

[ludo21]

I will be probably be doing a mock over the weekend.


good to hear, i like seeing some of the OMers mocks, better than the other ones out there. :sunshine:

[ICON]

Lol

[Rocket 7]

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[SouthStndJunkie]

I participated as the Broncos in a 4 round mock draft at KFFL.

Here is who I drafted:

15: Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
22: LenDale White, RB, USC
61: John McCargo, DT, NC State
119: Charlie Whitehurst, QB, Clemson
126: Devin Hester, RS, Miami
130: Victor Adeyanju, DE, Indiana

If we would have gone 5 rounds I would have selected Tony Scheffler, TE, Western Michigan in the 5th round.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Some people don't know who McCargo is, but he is very underrated and a guy that could sneak up to the bottom of the first/top of the second round.

Whitehurst was too good to pass up in the middle of the 4th. Hester is too explosive and athletic not to take at the end of 4 and I really like Adeyanju and saw him as a 3rd round prospect who somehow fell to the end of the 4th.

[BroncoInferno]

I participated as the Broncos in a 4 round mock draft at KFFL.

Here is who I drafted:

15: Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
22: LenDale White, RB, USC
61: John McCargo, DT, NC State
119: Charlie Whitehurst, QB, Clemson
126: Devin Hester, RS, Miami
130: Victor Adeyanju, DE, Indiana

If we would have gone 5 rounds I would have selected Tony Scheffler, TE, Western Michigan in the 5th round.

The only pick I don't like here is Holmes, but the rest of the haul is so good, I could live it. Good job. :thumbsup:

[SouthStndJunkie]

The only pick I don't like here is Holmes, but the rest of the haul is so good, I could live it. Good job. :thumbsup:

Thanks....I happen to think Holmes is a stud, but that is just my opinion.

What WRs do you like in this draft?

[Rascal]

Thanks....I happen to think Holmes is a stud, but that is just my opinion.

What WRs do you like in this draft?

I like Stovall and Hagan in the second. Anybody before that is overrated and not worth the risk IMO.

[BroncoInferno]

Thanks....I happen to think Holmes is a stud, but that is just my opinion.

What WRs do you like in this draft?

It's not that I don't like Holmes or Jackson, I just think they are 2nd round talents who have been pushed up because of the overall weakness of the class. In terms of value, Stovall in the 2nd round is a senario I like.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I like Stovall and Hagan in the second. Anybody before that is overrated and not worth the risk IMO.


Agree and there are roiund 3/4 guys that could be just as good - Orr, Greg Lee, Nance

[SouthStndJunkie]

I think Holmes is the only guy worthy of a first round pick. Chad Jackson is overrated in my book. I think Holmes will be a playmaker as a pro.

[SpringStein]

Agree and there are roiund 3/4 guys that could be just as good - Orr, Greg Lee, Nance

VERY slow.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

VERY slow.

4.6 - the same as Nance and Stovall-faster than Avant. He did have a bad attitude problem this year. Was a much better player in 2004.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/wr.html

[SouthStndJunkie]

I think Greg Lee is a heck of a player. I know his value has dropped, but I think he will make some team look really smart.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I think Greg Lee is a heck of a player. I know his value has dropped, but I think he will make some team look really smart.

Has a chance if he gets his head on straight.

[RocBronc]

The only guy I like at 15, who I think is a value is White... If he or any other of the top guys aren't there I'd rather see us drop to like 19 or 20 and get our 3rd round pick. There, taking Jackson or Williams or Hali or Holmes makes alot more sense to me.

[SouthStndJunkie]

The only guy I like at 15, who I think is a value is White... If he or any other of the top guys aren't there I'd rather see us drop to like 19 or 20 and get our 3rd round pick. There, taking Jackson or Williams or Hali or Holmes makes alot more sense to me.

Good to hear from you rocbronc. Ready for the draft?

[brother love]

I think the Browns will nab Bunkley at 12 if he is there.

And then in true Browns fashion trade him to Denver!

[anthonypacino]

I participated as the Broncos in a 4 round mock draft at KFFL.

Here is who I drafted:

15: Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State-Traded to 49ers 6th pick-Mario Williams
22: LenDale White, RB, USC-Traded to 49ers 6th pick Mario Williams,DE NC St.
61: John McCargo, DT, NC State-Brandon Marshall, WR, UCF
119: Charlie Whitehurst, QB, Clemson-Cedric Humes, RB, VT
126: Devin Hester, RS, Miami-Nate Salley, S Ohio St.
130: Victor Adeyanju, DE, Indiana-Drew Olsen, QB, UCLA

If we would have gone 5 rounds I would have selected Tony Scheffler, TE, Western Michigan in the 5th round.
At least what I would do, your picks are good though, I like them all but LenDale White

[BroncoInferno]

At least what I would do, your picks are good though, I like them all but LenDale White

I trust game film more than workouts. LenDale had man boobs in the National Championship game, and he did alright. He will be an excellent player. I will be happy if we select him, or honestly any of the guys projected in the 1st round (DW and Maroney being the others).

[SouthStndJunkie]

I agree...at 22 I would be happy with LenDale, DW, or Maroney. That is why we should wait until 22 to take a RB, at least one of those guys will be there and are all worthy of being taken at that spot.

[JCMElway]

I trust game film more than workouts. LenDale had man boobs in the National Championship game, and he did alright. He will be an excellent player. I will be happy if we select him, or honestly any of the guys projected in the 1st round (DW and Maroney being the others).

He should wear a Manzier!

[Ballhawk]

I agree...at 22 I would be happy with LenDale, DW, or Maroney. That is why we should wait until 22 to take a RB, at least one of those guys will be there and are all worthy of being taken at that spot.

What do we need that is worthy of the #15 pick? We need S, TE, WR or G/C and nothing at 15 fits the bill. More I look the more I want to trade out of that spot and go after Mario or trade down to around 24-29 (TB may be a good partner for that).

[BritBronco Maniac]

Anyone else think Hali could go to a 3-4 team like New England?

[27atwater]

yes I do.

the WRs i like are brandon marshall and greg jennings. I think they'll both be very good and can be had in the 2nd or by way of a trade up using our 4th rounders.

[SouthStndJunkie]

yes I do.

the WRs i like are brandon marshall and greg jennings. I think they'll both be very good and can be had in the 2nd or by way of a trade up using our 4th rounders.

I like Greg Jennings a lot. I live in MAC country and got to see him play several times. Very productive WR.

[SouthStndJunkie]

The 2006 Draft Invitees are:

Reggie Bush
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Matt Leinart
Mario Williams
Vince Young

The league also hopes to add another defensive prospect or two.

[ludo21]

The 2006 Draft Invitees are:

Reggie Bush
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Matt Leinart
Mario Williams
Vince Young

The league also hopes to add another defensive prospect or two.


so which one will be the Rodgers..... who will be sitting around....;D

I can see them inviting Hawk or Huff.

[Play2win]

so which one will be the Rodgers..... who will be sitting around....;D

I can see them inviting Hawk or Huff.
I hope its Leinart... ;D

[SouthStndJunkie]

I have been telling everyone for months that Omar Jacobs would drop in the draft as I think he is very overrated.

I have not heard much on the Jacobs front lately.

My guess is that he goes in the 4th round.

Where do you think he goes in the draft?

[SouthStndJunkie]

FTR.....I am down with taking a shot at David Anderson, WR, CSU in the 6th round, heck I would not pout if we took him in the 5th.

[-Slap-]

SSJ, what's your opinion of Mike Hass?

[SouthStndJunkie]

I think Mike Hass will make a very good pro. He has everything you look for in a WR except timed speed. He plays faster than his stop watch time would lead you to conclude. His lack of a fast 40 time does not mean he cannot get seperation, because he can. He would be a solid fit in Denver as he is a willing blocker. He does the 'little nuances' very well and is fearless. Good hands and not afraid to get thumped and still hang on to the rock. He is the kind of guy that would train hard, buy into Shanny's way of doing things, and probably be a favorite of the coach.

He has been placed as a 3rd round prospect, but I would be down with taking him at 61. I wish we had a 3rd rounder though, as it would be an ideal place to draft him. Watch a guy like Belichick snag him, he is his kind of player and would fit their system. I did not really appreciate Hass until I watched a few Oregon State games I had on tape a few weeks back. He has moved up my board since then. Looks at his stats....very productive throughout his entire career.

[Play2win]

I would love for us to Acquire Mike Hass, he is a REAL Football player...

[-Slap-]

He was a team captain. I think he might provide some of the toughness we lost when Eddie Mac hung them up. Maybe his average 40 time will drop him into round four in this strong draft. Unfortunately its a weak WR class.

[SouthStndJunkie]

He was a team captain. I think he might provide some of the toughness we lost when Eddie Mac hung them up. Maybe his average 40 time will drop him into round four in this strong draft. Unfortunately its a weak WR class.

Some team will have a hard on for him before Round 4 in my opinion.

[Great13]

I wouldn't mind if we used some of those fourth round picks to trade up and grab Reggie McNeal in the 3rd. How do you guys feel about McNeal?

[ludo21]

I wouldn't mind if we used some of those fourth round picks to trade up and grab Reggie McNeal in the 3rd. How do you guys feel about McNeal?


He is a decent prospect, but id rather wait till next year to get our QBOTF.

This draft we should draft "needs", then later on add talent.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I would be thinking of converting McNeal to WR in the back of my mind if I were the team drafting him.

[Play2win]

I would be thinking of converting McNeal to WR in the back of my mind if I were the team drafting him.
I would think Vince Young would make an AWESOME WR. He would be very Good. T.O. Good. He is very hard to bring down and if he gets a head start, he is gone...

I guess there in no chance in H3ll that he would ever be a WR, but he would be a good one...

[youcandoit1687]

does anybody have an opinion about paul pinegar from fresno state, i made a bet about him going in the fourth a long time ago and it was very premature lol im a little nervous now

[phisig150]

does anybody have an opinion about paul pinegar from fresno state, i made a bet about him going in the fourth a long time ago and it was very premature lol im a little nervous now

I was a little ****ed up for the SC and Fresno State game but if Pinegar is the qb for them that guy is a stud. Fresno ussually cranks out some decent qbs.

[BritBronco Maniac]

I am intruiged by McNeal, but I wouldn't take him until day 2.

I am starting to think that the only DL we take in the draft will be tackles.

The funniest part of last year's draft coverage was the interview with Cedric Benson. He breaks into tears describing how he has been badly portrayed by the media, and has been compared to Ricky Williams, but he just wants to play. So what does he do next? He holds out and is the last 1st rounder to sign!

[Barry Ramey]

Pinegar could go in the 4th or 5th round, but I don't see him as a starter in the NFL. Not much mobility and hard to have a QB with no mobility anymore.

[anthonypacino]

does anybody have an opinion about paul pinegar from fresno state, i made a bet about him going in the fourth a long time ago and it was very premature lol im a little nervous now
If Pinegar wan't injured in college they would be talkin gbaout him like theyr are Cutler. I remember when he was starting as a freshman and he was being talked about as a pro. Good strong arm but I think the injuries he suffered made him even less mobile. But last time I checked there are some pretty inmobile guys playing QB in the NFL today.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Pinegar, in my opinion will be the QB steal of the draft. Great size, toughness and smarts. He is not fast, but has great awareness in the pocket and knows when to move around. Has been in a Pro style system. I think he is every bit as good as David Carr who came out of the same system.

Jacobs was being slobbered over by everyone as the next great QB to come out of the MAC. He declared even though he was given only a 4th round grade. He throws a great ball, but plays in one of those "systems", does not handle the ball very well and has lots to learn. Could be a nice guy to sit on the bench 2-3 years.

McNeal is a great athlete and also throws with nice touch, but he will never be more than a third stringer in the NFL. He would be better suited to move to RB. Would be a good 3rd down back.

[anthonypacino]

I can't believe no one is talking about Mike Robinson from Penn St. He is Vince Young only without the supporting cast. he played WR in college as well. I think he could be a valuble "utility" guy.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I can't believe no one is talking about Mike Robinson from Penn St. He is Vince Young only without the supporting cast. he played WR in college as well. I think he could be a valuble "utility" guy.

He played some at RB at Penn State as well.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I can't believe no one is talking about Mike Robinson from Penn St. He is Vince Young only without the supporting cast. he played WR in college as well. I think he could be a valuble "utility" guy.

I think he, McNeil and Brad smith will all play in the NFL, but not as QBs.

[Great13]

Here are some McNeal clips for those of you who have never seen him. Nice touch.. great speed.. could use alot of work as far as mechanics.. but I'm sure Shanny is up to the task.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=al4Q5D6y4ZU

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jFQGmpZ18o0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VZZItSzkock

I didn't make any of these by the way. And many plays are repeated in these three clips.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I have seen him in person, two or three times and watched him many times on TV. He does have good touch and he is a great leader The biggest problem I have as a QB is his size. I know he is listed at 6'1" or something, but if you look at those clips he is the shortest guy on the field, by far. He has to put a lot of air under the ball to get it over the linemen which gives the DBs in the NFL a big advantage. That is why I think he would be better ar RB.

[anthonypacino]

I have seen him in person, two or three times and watched him many times on TV. He does have good touch and he is a great leader The biggest problem I have as a QB is his size. I know he is listed at 6'1" or something, but if you look at those clips he is the shortest guy on the field, by far. He has to put a lot of air under the ball to get it over the linemen which gives the DBs in the NFL a big advantage. That is why I think he would be better ar RB.
The Texas/aTm game last year is when I came to the conclusion that McNeal wasn't good at all, when that freshman came off the bench for A&M and rallied those guys to almost beating Texas, I never saw McNeal lead or inspire his teammates that way.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Some players that I think will be a great value and really help the teams that draft them:

Victor Adeyanju, DE, Indiana
Terna Nande, OLB, Miami of Ohio
Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
Domata Peko, DT, Michigan State
Tony Scheffler, TE, Western Michigan
Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan
David Anderson, WR, CSU
Martin Nance, WR, Miami of Ohio
Mike Haas, WR, Oregon State
Gerald Riggs Jr., RB, Tennessee
Jerome Harrison, RB, Washington State
Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Toledo
Darryl Tapp, DE, Va Tech

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Some players that I think will be a great value and really help the teams that draft them:

Victor Adeyanju, DE, Indiana
Terna Nande, OLB, Miami of Ohio
Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
Domata Peko, DT, Michigan State
Tony Scheffler, TE, Western Michigan
Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan
David Anderson, WR, CSU
Martin Nance, WR, Miami of Ohio
Mike Haas, WR, Oregon State
Gerald Riggs Jr., RB, Tennessee
Jerome Harrison, RB, Washington State
Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Toledo
Darryl Tapp, DE, Va Tech

Nice list - I could nit pick about a couple, but a good list none the less. Other than Tapp, they all have a chance to be around in the second day and could be very good values at that point.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Thanks...as for Tapp, if he lasted until 61 I would be all for drafting him if we have not addressed DE at 15 or 22.

[SoCalBronco]

Nice list - I could nit pick about a couple, but a good list none the less. Other than Tapp, they all have a chance to be around in the second day and could be very good values at that point.

All I know is that anyone from ND or Colorado St. is going to be a stud in the league.



















;D

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

The CSU players will all be studs. It is the ND players that are cheaters and frauds. ;D See the tapes of the last game the U played at ND.

[SoCalBronco]

The CSU players will all be studs. It is the ND players that are cheaters and frauds. ;D See the tapes of the last game the U played at ND.

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Happy belated Birthday Big Guy!

I wanted to get you the special Notre Dame alternate green jersies but all they had were the regular home ones.

I know you will be wearing this every Saturday when you watch college ball games this fall. :wiggle:

[SouthStndJunkie]

Mel's Latest 4 Round Mock:

15: Chad Jackson WR Florida
22: DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
61: Mark Anderson DE Alabama
119: Owen Daniels TE Wisconsin
126: Bernard Pollard S Purdue
130: Jeremy Bloom WR Colorado

[ludo21]

Some players that I think will be a great value and really help the teams that draft them:

Victor Adeyanju, DE, Indiana
Terna Nande, OLB, Miami of Ohio
Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
Domata Peko, DT, Michigan State
Tony Scheffler, TE, Western Michigan
Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan
David Anderson, WR, CSU
Martin Nance, WR, Miami of Ohio
Mike Haas, WR, Oregon State
Gerald Riggs Jr., RB, Tennessee
Jerome Harrison, RB, Washington State
Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Toledo
Darryl Tapp, DE, Va Tech


Great list!!

Adeyanju is a guy i would love if he falls to the 4th somehow.

[ludo21]

Pope was just on Cold Pizza - i didnt realize he was such a country boy down south.......

Very polite tho, nice guy.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Mel's Latest 4 Round Mock:

15: Chad Jackson WR Florida
22: DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
61: Mark Anderson DE Alabama
119: Owen Daniels TE Wisconsin
126: Bernard Pollard S Purdue
130: Jeremy Bloom WR Colorado

Anderson would be great - pure pass rusher with speed

I have seen Daniels many times and like him, but that is a little early in this draft - more like 6th round.

Same for Pollard and Bloom - seen them many times and like them, but think there will be better options at those picks

[Rascal]

I like Mel's first three picks but after that it falls apart.

[Requiem]

Switch Daniels with Tim Day and #130 to a OL and that's a great draft.

[Requiem]

I was surpsied he had Mathias going after Anderson though in the second. I think that with McCargo and Scott on board before Daniels, we could go that route. Oh well.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Pat Watkins, S, FSU is a player that has been intriguing me more and more as the draft approaches.

Over 6'4 and about 211 pounds with legit 4.4 speed. Nice size for matching up with the stud TEs in our division.

[ludo21]

Pat Watkins, S, FSU is a player that has been intriguing me more and more as the draft approaches.

Over 6'4 and about 211 pounds with legit 4.4 speed. Nice size for matching up with the stud TEs in our division.


got any video of him SSJ??

Id like to see this guy as well, measureables sound awesome!

[Rascal]

Pat Watkins, S, FSU is a player that has been intriguing me more and more as the draft approaches.

Over 6'4 and about 211 pounds with legit 4.4 speed. Nice size for matching up with the stud TEs in our division.

At that height he needs to get stronger/bigger. I think he will probably be a day one pick.

[SouthStndJunkie]

got any video of him SSJ??

Id like to see this guy as well, measureables sound awesome!

I don't have any video clips of him, but I have a few FSU games recorded. He will be a free safety in the pros. He has decent hips and good ball-hawk skills and is a solid enough tackler. He could beef up to about 225 eventually.

I think he goes anywhere from late in round 2 through the end of round 3.

[ludo21]

Maybe we will move into the 3rd, id like that.

In the 2nd i think we are in a prime spot for a DL. Someone will slide to us.

[SouthStndJunkie]

It has been reported that Jason Allen has failed a couple of physicals for teams and some fear his hip condition could be degenerative.

[youcandoit1687]

Mel's Latest 4 Round Mock:

15: Chad Jackson WR Florida
22: DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
61: Mark Anderson DE Alabama
119: Owen Daniels TE Wisconsin
126: Bernard Pollard S Purdue
130: Jeremy Bloom WR Colorado


hmmm i like 15,126,and 130 but 1.dw wont be there at 22(if he is it might be justified but i like maroney better for us). DE is ok but whynot manny lawson at 22 and then dt 61. I dont know much about owen daniels but i do know that wesley duke will be a nice add for us next year along with some of our other TE depth(mainly stephen alexander&maybe even carswell on heavy packages). PS has anybody heard anything about carswell recently


Manny Lawson, N.C. State
Position: Defensive End/Linebacker
Height: 6-5
Weight: 240 lbs.
Details: The pride of Goldsboro, N.C., Lawson was the other half of a dynamic bookend defensive pair for the Wolfpack, moving to the front four after spending his first two seasons as an outside linebacker. Lawson notched 17.5 sacks in his last two seasons at right defensive end in State's 4-3 scheme and earned first-team All-Atlantic Coast Conference plaudits last year after notching 10.5 sacks.
Lawson's athletic gifts are evidenced by his time of 4.43 seconds in the 40-yard dash and his two years of experience on State's track team. He was the conference champion in the indoor long jump during his sophomore year, and finished second in the outdoor long jump, fifth in the triple jump and participated on the school's 4x100 relay team. As a freshman, he ran the 60-meter indoor hurdles for the Wolfpack, posting the team's best time that year (8.55 seconds).

[SouthStndJunkie]

Lawson is a very enticing player. I think he could be a good end in the 4-3, but 3-4 teams will be drooling over him. The thing I like most about Lawson is that he has freakish measurables and backed them up with good stats.

Nothing scares me more than a player who is an athletic freak, but does not have the stats to prove his effectiveness on the field. There are exceptions....DTs whose main focus is to free up other players, WRs who have a crappy QB, etc....

[youcandoit1687]

lawson hasnt gotten the hype yet, i mean he outperformed mario on everything i mean EVERYTHING. he is just as tall but the reason why he is low and will be a steal is that he is raw he just starting playing on the line but he still had 17.5 sacks over his first two year at DE. also there are a lot of 3-4 guys ahead of him(ngata,bunk,etc.).the team i am most afraid of him being nabbed by would be those damn patriots.he is a belichick guy but hopefully they dont want him with resigning of richard seymour(fingers crossed).another team to watch would be the cowboys but they seem set after their picks last year.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I would not be shocked to see Lawson go as high as 12 to Cleveland or Miami at 16. You can bet there are some teams keeping absolutely mum about Lawson that may pounce on him earlier than expected.

[Ballhawk]

I would not be shocked to see Lawson go as high as 12 to Cleveland or Miami at 16. You can bet there are some teams keeping absolutely mum about Lawson that may pounce on him earlier than expected.


Ya he is not being hyped because many teams are being hush hush on him

[phillybroncosnut]

I would not be shocked to see Lawson go as high as 12 to Cleveland or Miami at 16. You can bet there are some teams keeping absolutely mum about Lawson that may pounce on him earlier than expected.


SSJ.. I love listening to PK and T-Rock. Did you hear the little Mock they did today?
Interesting how they had AJ Hawk falling to 11.

They had us taking Kiwi at 15. If Lawson falls to 15..... I want him!



I was thinking what a great offseason we could have with trades and the draft.
I wonder if GB would take 15, 22 and Lelie for 5, a 2nd rounder (or third) and Walker.
If not, i wonder if SF would take 15 and Lelie for #6. Eithertrade would land us Vernon Davis or mario.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Guy on ESPN radio right (Erik Kuselias) now is talking about how the texans should trade the #1 (Bush) to us for the #15 #22 and next years 2nd or 3rd round pick? what do you guys think of it.

[ludo21]

Guy on ESPN radio right now is talking about how the texen should trade the #1 (Bush) to us for the #15 #22 and next years 2nd or 3rd round pick? what do you guys think of it.


If we got Bush i would be ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, a guy like Bush in THIS OL system. 2k every year!!

[phillybroncosnut]

Guy on ESPN radio right now is talking about how the texen should trade the #1 (Bush) to us for the #15 #22 and next years 2nd or 3rd round pick? what do you guys think of it.

I'd do it and then see what the Jets, or Saints or Titans wanted to give up for #1. Then, I'd slide down and take Mario.

We could probably get this years first and second. So, we'd give up 15, 22 and next years 2, for #2,3,or 4 this year and a early second rounder.

I'd consider it. If the Jets wanted #1 overall, we would slide to 4. I'd assume they wanted Leinart. That leaves us with 1 of 4 differnt player. Mario, Brick, VD, or Bush. I could live with either at #4

[Ballhawk]

We really are the only team out there that has the ammo to move up. The Jets have 2 1st rounders but really no way do they package those picks. This give us some kind of leverage in this deep draft.

[Crushaholic]

Guy on ESPN radio right (Erik Kuselias) now is talking about how the texans should trade the #1 (Bush) to us for the #15 #22 and next years 2nd or 3rd round pick? what do you guys think of it.

If we were to do that, I don't want us to get Reggie Bush. Whatever happened to "My grandmother can run for the Broncos and get yards"? Running back is NOT our immediate need. However, it would be interesting being able to take anybody we wanted...:Broncos:

[meangene]

Keep in mind that Bush upgrades us not only at RB but receiver and kick returns as well. I'd be all over it if was available. He IS that good IMO.

[SouthStndJunkie]

SSJ.. I love listening to PK and T-Rock. Did you hear the little Mock they did today?
Interesting how they had AJ Hawk falling to 11.

They had us taking Kiwi at 15. If Lawson falls to 15..... I want him!



I was thinking what a great offseason we could have with trades and the draft.
I wonder if GB would take 15, 22 and Lelie for 5, a 2nd rounder (or third) and Walker.
If not, i wonder if SF would take 15 and Lelie for #6. Eithertrade would land us Vernon Davis or mario.

philly.....I love that show as well. Kirwan is great to listen to as he presents everything from the aspect of a GM and his experience and contacts help to carry the show. By far the best show on Sirius NFL Radio. I caught a few minutes of the show today, but missed most of the mock they did. Hawk falls to 11? I doubt he falls that far.

[ludo21]

If we were to do that, I don't want us to get Reggie Bush. Whatever happened to "My grandmother can run for the Broncos and get yards"? Running back is NOT our immediate need. However, it would be interesting being able to take anybody we wanted...:Broncos:


Remember the days of having an ELITE RB? Those were awesome days. We can NOT expect to find another TD, we should get an elite RB and get back to the glory days!

[youcandoit1687]

If we got Bush i would be ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, a guy like Bush in THIS OL system. 2k every year!!


2k every year? more like 80 every play! that would be mind boggling.wow.not sure i could handle that i might explode

[SouthStndJunkie]

Looks like Jason Avant had a recent workout and ran in the early 4.6 range....better than his previously timed 4.8.

[SouthStndJunkie]

http://www.gbnreport.com/tradeprojection.html

SPECIAL "TRADE" 2006 DRAFT FIRST-ROUND PROJECTION

[wabbit]

Trading those two picks just numbs my sense of real need for Denver.

Vernon Davis may very well turn out to be SHannon Sharpe/TO rolled into one, and he could also tear a ligament in Pre-Season and leave the Broncos wanting (Kellen Winslow Jr., Ki Jana Carter)

I realize that's a terribly pessimistic outlook, but that's the risk when all the eggs are resting precariously in one basket.

I would be a happy guy if Denver somehow lands that 6th pick without giving up the proverbial first round farm, but I understand that i'm probably dreaming.

Shanahan has never hesitated to reach when he really, really wants something, and everything I'm hearing says he really, really wants a shot at Davis.

All's good if it pans out...but I worry

[Clockwork Orange]

Trading those two picks just numbs my sense of real need for Denver.

Vernon Davis may very well turn out to be SHannon Sharpe/TO rolled into one, and he could also tear a ligament in Pre-Season and leave the Broncos wanting (Kellen Winslow Jr., Ki Jana Carter)

I realize that's a terribly pessimistic outlook, but that's the risk when all the eggs are resting precariously in one basket.

I would be a happy guy if Denver somehow lands that 6th pick without giving up the proverbial first round farm, but I understand that i'm probably dreaming.

Shanahan has never hesitated to reach when he really, really wants something, and everything I'm hearing says he really, really wants a shot at Davis.

All's good if it pans out...but I worry

I understand exactly what you mean wabbit, that's multiple draft picks and a lot of guaranteed money invested in one player. Still, I've contended all along that Davis is one of the players I'd be allright with the Broncos trading up for and nothing has changed that stance.

Maybe it's because it's been a while since the Broncos reeled in a truly elite prospect, but I absolutely love the idea of having a freak like Davis in the Broncos offense.

[eddie mac]

Trading those two picks just numbs my sense of real need for Denver.

Vernon Davis may very well turn out to be SHannon Sharpe/TO rolled into one, and he could also tear a ligament in Pre-Season and leave the Broncos wanting (Kellen Winslow Jr., Ki Jana Carter)

I realize that's a terribly pessimistic outlook, but that's the risk when all the eggs are resting precariously in one basket.

I would be a happy guy if Denver somehow lands that 6th pick without giving up the proverbial first round farm, but I understand that i'm probably dreaming.

Shanahan has never hesitated to reach when he really, really wants something, and everything I'm hearing says he really, really wants a shot at Davis.

All's good if it pans out...but I worry

Totally agree. There's a couple of other intangibles I'd like to throw in as well.

1. According to quite a few scouts, VD's blocking is very suspect.

Are we not a run first team or is Mike planning on changing that this season???
Plus if you're drafting a guy at 5 or 6 you expect him to contribute right away and be on the field on most of the offensive plays.


2. Last time I checked, Jake Plummer is still our QB and I just dont see Jake fully utilising Davis' aerial ability.

[Rascal]

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16493709&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18170&rfi=6

PLEASE DEAR LORD LET THE EAGLES PICK CHAD JACKSON AND PLEASE DEAR LORD LET SOMEBODY OTHER THEN DENVER DRAFT SINCORE MOSS IN THE FIRST ROUND....HEAR MY CRIES LORD!!!

[youcandoit1687]

NO SINORICE MOSS!!! we would only be splitting our "eggs". if we put all our eggs in one basket, they could turn out to be golden and i think VD will be that,golden. its a chance but we all know that the draft is all about chances. i say pull the trigger if we can, if not go CJ and manny

[Drek]

My random draft thoughts:
If we have to take Chad Jackson, wait until the 22nd pick to do it.

We'll have a slider available at 15, but will Shanny take him? I'd be surprised if he did.

[meangene]

My random draft thoughts:
If we have to take Chad Jackson, wait until the 22nd pick to do it.

We'll have a slider available at 15, but will Shanny take him? I'd be surprised if he did.

I agree. And, I wouldn't be surprised if we have a slider at #22 also. WR can wait until later.

[Rascal]

I agree. And, I wouldn't be surprised if we have a slider at #22 also. WR can wait until later.

MIKE HASS!!!!

[SouthStndJunkie]

Mike Haas with the 3rd rounder would be nice now.

I am hoping we draft Marcedes Lewis at 37.

[SouthStndJunkie]

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

New nfldraftcountdown mock w/recent trade included:

15: Chad Jackson, WR, Florida

37: Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State

61: Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado

68: Danieal Manning, DB, Abilene Christian

[Clockwork Orange]

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

New nfldraftcountdown mock w/recent trade included:

15: Chad Jackson, WR, Florida

37: Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State

61: Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado

68: Danieal Manning, DB, Abilene Christian

We're not spending our newly acquired 3rd rounder on a ****ing corner. I'm throwing Garcia's computer out the window if they do.

I'd absolutely love that 2nd round though.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I agree.....Hali and Klopfenstein would be a great second round.

[ludo21]

I agree.....Hali and Klopfenstein would be a great second round.


That would be sweet!!

I am sooo pumped about this draft, because i really can care less who we take, as long as its not a WR first round.

15 and 37 = #6 area, maybe throw another pick in there and we can get to 6 for sure. Would the niners go for that?

[Ballhawk]

That would be sweet!!

I am sooo pumped about this draft, because i really can care less who we take, as long as its not a WR first round.

15 and 37 = #6 area, maybe throw another pick in there and we can get to 6 for sure. Would the niners go for that?
You think Nolan is missing his 2nd already lol

[ludo21]

You think Nolan is missing his 2nd already lol


it is a very good pick.;D

Their is also word that the niners want Davis, so its a pipe dream, our only real shot would be a GB trade.

[Ballhawk]

Actually there has been no word out of Nolan as to who he wants, if the fan message board is any clue. I think both GB and SF want to see if Mario falls to them, and if not may want to move down. I do not think either are really comfortable drafting a TE #6. SF does have EJ already who was one of the top TEs just 2 years ago but got hurt last year. GB has $$$ tied up in Franks and that would be alot of allocation of funds for them. VD could drop to 9 if he gets past the Faiders which very well could happen imo.

I dont think either one wants to move down to #15 tho.

[SouthStndJunkie]

SSJ Full Broncos Draft:


1 (15) DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
2 (37) Marcedes Lewis, TE. UCLA
2 (61) Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas
3 (68) Pat Watkins, S, Florida State
4 (119) Mike Hass, WR, Oregon State
4 (126) (TRADED SEE COMMENTS BELOW)
4 (130) Mark Setterstrom, G, Minnesota
5 (161) Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Toledo
6 (198) Skyler Green, WR/RS, LSU

Trade: Ashley Lelie and pick 126 in the 4th Round for Javon Walker

[BroncoInferno]

2. Last time I checked, Jake Plummer is still our QB and I just dont see Jake fully utilising Davis' aerial ability.

That's crazy; just because Lelie is a one dimensional player whose strong suit (going deep) happens to be a weakness of Jake's (throwing an accurate deep ball consistently) says nothing about Davis' potential in this offense. He can work the short-medium area of the field, and Jake is fine that area. In fact, a tight end like Davis is the PERFECT target for Jake Plummer.

[Rascal]

SSJ Full Broncos Draft:


1 (15) DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
2 (37) Marcedes Lewis, TE. UCLA
2 (61) Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas
3 (68) Pat Watkins, S, Florida State
4 (119) Mike Haas, WR, Oregon State
4 (126) (TRADED SEE COMMENTS BELOW)
4 (130) Mark Setterstrom, G, Minnesota
5 (161) Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Toledo
6 (198) Skyler Green, WR/RS, LSU

Trade: Ashley Lelie and pick 126 in the 4th Round for Javon Walker


I'd rather take Hali at 15 and pick up a RB later in the draft but I like it. Especially the Hass pick.

[Play2win]

SSJ Full Broncos Draft:


1 (15) DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
2 (37) Marcedes Lewis, TE. UCLA
2 (61) Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas
3 (68) Pat Watkins, S, Florida State
4 (119) Mike Haas, WR, Oregon State
4 (126) (TRADED SEE COMMENTS BELOW)
4 (130) Mark Setterstrom, G, Minnesota
5 (161) Bruce Gradkowski, QB, Toledo
6 (198) Skyler Green, WR/RS, LSU

Trade: Ashley Lelie and pick 126 in the 4th Round for Javon Walker

I really, really like that draft. Make it happen SHANNY!!! ;D

[Play2win]

I'd rather take Hali at 15 and pick up a RB later in the draft but I like it. Especially the Hass pick.
Not too far off from my DW2/POPE/HASS...

I'd buy that draft in about a half a second...

[youcandoit1687]

uhhh can we get some more dline help than rod wright...o and ive been really busy, what hapd with the trade and pick 22? i hate school

[SouthStndJunkie]

New Todd McShay/Scouts Inc. 7 Round Mock:


15. Denver Broncos (10-6)
Pick acquired from Falcons
The pick: +Chad Jackson, WR, Florida

The Broncos are hoping to continue to make moves on draft day. Their primary goal is to package picks and move up for TE Davis. If they can't get that deal done, they'll look to acquire more picks by trading down. But if they get stuck at No. 15, look for the Broncos to select the best wide receiver on their board. Jackson needs some polish, but his size, explosive speed and playmaking ability would be a welcomed addition to a wide receiver corps that currently is in flux. Rod Smith is running out of time, and Ashley Lelie has proven to be too unreliable as a full-time starter. Jackson could contribute as a No. 3 immediately while being groomed as the primary target for the future.

37. Denver Broncos (from San Francisco)
Joseph Addai | RB | LSU

61. Denver Broncos
Joe Klopfenstein | TE | Colorado

68. Denver (from San Francisco)
Daniel Bullocks | DS | Nebraska

119. Denver Broncos (from Washington)
LeKevin Smith | DT | Nebraska

126. Denver Broncos
Michael Robinson | WR | Penn State

130. Denver Broncos (Compensatory Selection)
Rashad Butler | OT | Miami-Fla.

161. Denver Broncos
D.J. Shockley | QB | Georgia

198. Denver Broncos
Dwayne Slay | DS | Texas Tech

[BritBronco Maniac]

I really hope someone trades up ahead of us to take Jackson. Then Shanny's plan will have succeeded, I'm sure he's just sending smoke signals (well I hope so anyway!)

My other wish is that we don't take a DE in the first round unless it's Williams.
I'd rather we waited until the 2nd, or don't take one at all. What we need is a DT.

My top two draft wishes are DT and RB, followed by TE.

[Drek]

We're not spending our newly acquired 3rd rounder on a ****ing corner. I'm throwing Garcia's computer out the window if they do.

I'd absolutely love that 2nd round though.
Danieal Manning is a DB prospect, not a CB. He played Div II, but has crazy speed and a good build for his height. A lot of people think he'll be a real good DB no matter where he plays, but that FS is his future destiny, since he's not afraid of laying lumber on guys and playing up on the run. Fast too, 4.46. I fwe grabbed Danieal Manning in round 3 I'd be very happy.

[Mediator12]

That's crazy; just because Lelie is a one dimensional player whose strong suit (going deep) happens to be a weakness of Jake's (throwing an accurate deep ball consistently) says nothing about Davis' potential in this offense. He can work the short-medium area of the field, and Jake is fine that area. In fact, a tight end like Davis is the PERFECT target for Jake Plummer.

I am not sure about that. Ask Jeb Putzier about being on Jacked up four times last season. For all the bitching about Putzier after he has been gone, he got killed by some inaccurate and poorly timed throws to the TE last year. Then, ask Sharpe why he retired when he did with Jake as the QB ;D

[Play2win]

I am not sure about that. Ask Jeb Putzier about being on Jacked up four times last season. For all the b****ing about Putzier after he has been gone, he got killed by some inaccurate and poorly timed throws to the TE last year. Then, ask Sharpe why he retired when he did with Jake as the QB ;D
What? JAKE made an Inaccurate Throw?? NO?!?

[SouthStndJunkie]

My Updated Mock 4/22/06----includes trade w/SF

First Round

1-1 Texans -Reggie Bush, RB, USC
1-2 Saints- Mario Williams, DE, NC State
1-3 Titans- Matt Leinart, QB, USC
1-4 Jets- D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
1-5 Packers-A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State
1-6 49ers-Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
1-7 Raiders-Vince Young, QB, Texas
1-8 Bills- Winston Justice, OT, USC
1-9 Lions- Michael Huff, S, Texas
1-10 Cardinals- Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
1-11 Rams-Jimmy Williams, CB, Va Tech
1-12 Browns Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
1-13 Ravens- Brodrick Bunkley, DT, FSU
1-14 Eagles- Chad Jackson, WR, Florida
1-15 Broncos- DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
1-16 Dolphins- Manny Lawson, DE/LB NC State
1-17 Vikings- Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa
1-18 Cowboys- Donte Whitner, S, Ohio State
1-19 Chargers- Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
1-20 Chiefs- Johnathan Joseph, CB, South Carolina
1-21 Pats- Antonio Cromartie, CB, FSU
1-22 49ers- Kamerion Wimbley. DE/OLB, FSU
1-23 Bucs- Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
1-24 Bengals- Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
1-25 Giants- Ernie Sims, LB, FSU
1-26 Bears- Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
1-27 Panthers- LenDale White, RB, USC
1-28 Jags- DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama
1-29 Jets- Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State
1-30 Colts- Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
1-31 Seahawks- Jason Allen, DB, Tennessee
1-32 Steelers- Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami


Second Round


2-33 Texans- Eric Winston, OT, Miami
2-34 Saints- Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State
2-35 Jets- Joseph Addai, RB, LSU
2-36 Packers- Davin Joseph, OG, Oklahoma
2-37 Broncos-Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA
2-38 Raiders- Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
2-39 Titans- D'Qwell Jackson, LB, Maryland
2-40 Lions- Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami
2-41 Cardinals- Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn
2-42 Bills- Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas
2-43 Browns- Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State
2-44 Ravens- Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
2-45 Eagles- Rocky McIntosh, LB, Miami
2-46 Rams- Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado
2-47 Falcons- Richard Marshall, CB, Fresno State
2-48 Vikings- Max Jean-Gilles, OG, Georgia
2-49 Cowboys- Daryn Colledge, OT, Boise State
2-50 Chargers- Ryan O'Callaghan, OT, Cal
2-51 Vikings- Brodie Croyle, QB, Alabama
2-52 Pats- Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan
2-53 Redskins- Abdul Hodge, LB, Iowa
2-54 Chiefs- Demetrius Williams, WR, Oregon
2-55 Bengals- Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
2-56 Giants- Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan
2-57 Bears- Anthony Fasano, TE, Notre Dame
2-58 Panthers- Dominique Byrd, TE, USC
2-59 Bucs- Taitusi Lutui, OG, USC
2-60 Jags- David Thomas, TE, Texas
2-61 Broncos- John McCargo, DT, NC State
2-62 Colts- Jonathan Lewis, DT, Va Tech
2-63 Seahawks- Darryl Tapp, DE, Va Tech
2-64 Steelers- Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas


Round 3

3-65 Texans- Daniel Bullocks, S, Nebraska
3-66 Texans- Maurice Stovall, WR, ND
3-67 Packers- Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State
3-68 Broncos- Mike Hass, WR, Oregon State
3-69 Raiders- Charles Spencer, OG, Pitt
3-70 Bills- Jason Avant, WR, Michigan
3-71 Jets- Jason Spitz, C, Louisville
3-72 Cardinals- Mark Anderson, DE, Alabama
3-73 Bills- Cedric Griffin, CB/S, Texas
3-74 Lions- Gerris Wilkinson, LB, Georgia Tech
3-75 Pats- Brian Calhoun, RB, Wisconsin
3-76 Eagles- Orien Harris, DT, Miami
3-77 Rams- Thomas Howard, LB, UTEP
3-78 Browns- Chris Chester, OL, Oklahoma
3-79 Falcons- Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota
3-80 Cowboys- Chris Gocong, DE/LB, Cal Poly
3-81 Chargers- Pat Watkins, S, FSU
3-82 Dolphins- Darnell Bing, S, USC
3-83 Vikings - Devin Hetser, CB/WR, Miami
3-84 49ers- Kai Parham, LB, Virginia
3-85 Chiefs- Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue
3-86 Pats- Parys Haralson, DE/OLB, Tennessee
3-87 Giants- Devin Aromashodu, WR, Auburn
3-88 Bears- Martin Nance, WR, Miami of Ohio
3-89 Panthers- Jon Alston, LB, Stanford
3-90 Bucs- Jeremy Trueblood, OT, Boston College
3-91 Bengals- Roman Harper, S, Alabama
3-92 Jaguars- Maurice Drew, RB, UCLA
3-93 Falcons- Calvin Lowry, S, Penn State
3-94 Colts- Spencer Havner, LB, UCLA
3-95 Vikings- Brandon Williams, WR, Wisconsin
3-96 Steelers- Stanley McClover, DE, Auburn
3-97 Jets- Dee Webb, CB, Florida


4th Round

4-98 Texans- Mark Setterstrom, OG, Minnesota
4-99 Saints- Kyle Williams, DT, LSU
4-100 49ers- Hank Baskett, WR, New Mexico
4-101 Raiders- A.J. Nicholson, LB, FSU
4-102 Titans- Andrew Whitworth, OT, LSU
4-103 Jets- Charlie Whitehurst, QB, Clemson
4-104 Packers- Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
4-105 Bills- Jerome Harrison, RB, Washington State
4-106 Pats- Terna Mande, LB, Miami of Ohio
4-107 Cardinals: Tarvaris Jackson, QB, Alabama State
4-108 Eagles- Zach Strief, OT, Northwestern
4-109 Rams- Kevin Booth, OG, Cornell
4-110 Browns- Elvis Dumervil, DE, Louisville
4-111 Ravens- Derrick Martin, CB, Wyoming
4-112 Browns- Danieal Manning, CB, Abilene-Christian
4-113 Chargers- Alan Zemaitas, CB, Penn State
4-114 Dolphins- Jonathan Orr, WR, Wisconsin
4-115 Vikings- Freddy Keiaho, LB, SD State
4-116 Eagles- Omar Jacobs, QB, Bowling Green
4-117 Jets- Greg Lee, WR, Pittsburgh
4-118 Pats- DeMario Minter, CB, Georgia
4-119 Broncos- Victor Adeyanju, DE, Indiana
4-120 Bears- Dusty Dvoracek, DT, Oklahoma
4-121 Panthers- Joe Toledo, OT, Washington
4-122 Bucs- Julian Jenkins, DE, Stanford
4-123 Bengals- Babatunde Oshinowa, DT, Stanford
4-124 Giants- Leon Washington, RB, FSU
4-125 Jags- Rob Sims, OG, Ohio State
4-126 Broncos- Bernard Pollard, S, Purdue
4-127 Eagles- Garret Mills, FB, Tulsa
4-128 Seahawks- Fred Matua, OG, USC
4-129 Steelers- Anthony Smith, S, Syracuse
4-130 Broncos- Brad Smith, WR/QB, Missouri
4-131 Steelers- Gerald Riggs, RB, Tennessee
4-132 Ravens- Paul McQuistan, OT, Weber State
4-133 Steelers- Reggie McNeal, WR/QB, Texas A&M

[BroncoInferno]

Good job, SSJ. I think we are going to take Eslinger somewhere on the first day, probably @ 68 and maybe @ 61. I think Shanny will consider him too perfect for our system to pass on and pick him to eventually replace Nalen. He is a technical wizard.

[phibacka31]

I could not agree with you more Drek Manning would be an absolute steal. He would play FS for the broncs and he would excell, I do believe.8')

[SouthStndJunkie]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9392296

Kirwan's Mock


Kirwan has us taking Chad Jackson at 15, Darnell Bing at 37, and Kellen Clemens, QB, Oregon at 61.

[SouthStndJunkie]

It looks like Bing is moving back up draft boards. I am cool with that, I always though he was a good player. I guess that Clemens is on the rise as well, but I can't see us taking him at 61.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Here is my possible shocker pick for Denver at 15:

Donte Whitner, S, Ohio State

Jason Allen, S, Tennessee was considered, but with the hip concerns, he will drop some.

[SouthStndJunkie]

http://www.gbnreport.com/2006projection.html

3 Round GBN Mock:

They finally put together a mock I like:

15: DeAngelo Williams

37: Tamba Hali

61: Darnell Bing

68: Demetrius Williams

[youcandoit1687]

as long as we get immmediate(1-2 seasons) answers for WR,DE,DT,TE i am ok. next i believe we should address S and RB. the S run in the 4-5 region shuld leave us with somebody very intriguing(bullocks from neb, pollard from purdue, etc.). i would like humes or a similar bruiser in the 4-5, maybe the big rb from GT, CJ anderson i think

[Old Dude]

I've just got one thought.

I heard Bloom interviewed on 950 yesterday, and Good Lord, is that kid ever articulate.

[BritBronco Maniac]

I'd like to see us take Bloom if he is available at the end of the 4th. I read we were the only team not to attend his work out, maybe it's another smoke screen.