FA's left

[Rascal]

Here is a list of FA's left.

This came from Adam Lasik on Xpertsports so he deserves credit for this.

First Name Last Name POS Type 2005 Team 2006 Team YRS Notes
Trey Teague C UFA Bills
Joe Iorio C UFA Giants Released by Giants on 2/25/06
Vince Carter C UFA Raiders Released on 3/15/06
Cory Raymer C UFA Redskins Released on 3/9/06
Tyson Walter C / G UFA Texans
Jody Littleton C/LS UFA Browns Released 3/17/06
Willie Middlebrooks CB UFA 49ers
Ahmed Plummer CB UFA 49ers Released by the 49ers on 2/23/06
Rashad Bauman CB UFA Bengals
Reggie Myles CB UFA Bengals
Kevin Thomas CB UFA Bills
Michael Lehan CB UFA Browns Released 2/23/06
Ray Mickens CB UFA Browns
Raymond Walls CB UFA Cardinals
Jamar Fletcher CB UFA Chargers
Dexter McCleon CB UFA Chiefs Released on 3/2/06
Eric Warfield CB UFA Chiefs Released on 3/2/06
DeWayne Washington CB UFA Chiefs
Reggie Howard CB UFA Dolphins Released by Dolphins on 3/1/06
Kenny Wright CB UFA Jaguars
Ty Law CB UFA Jets Released 2/22/06
Scott McGarrahan CB UFA Lions
Denard Walker CB UFA Raiders Released on 3/2/06
Charles Woodson CB UFA Raiders
Terry Fair CB UFA Rams
Dale Carter CB UFA Ravens
Andre Dyson CB UFA Seahawks Released on 3/2/06
Michael Harden CB UFA Seahawks Released on 3/2/06
Kevin House CB UFA Seahawks
Willie Williams CB UFA Steelers Released on 3/3/06
Tony Beckham CB UFA Titans
Ralph Brown CB UFA Vikings
Chris Cooper DE UFA 49ers Released by the 49ers on 2/23/06
Travis Hall DE UFA 49ers
Duane Clemons DE UFA Bengals Released on 3/9/06
Carl Powell DE UFA Bengals
Ryan Denney DE UFA Bills
Antonio Cochran DE UFA Cardinals
Ross Kolodziej DE UFA Cardinals
R-Kal Truluck DE UFA Cardinals
Gary Stills DE UFA Chiefs Ravens 3 Released on 3/2/06. Signed 3/22/06
N.D. Kalu DE UFA Eagles
Erik Flowers DE UFA Falcons
Brady Smith DE UFA Falcons Released on 3/3/06
Jared DeVries DE UFA Lions
Kemp Rasmussen DE UFA Panthers
Tyoka Jackson DE UFA Rams
Demetric Evans DE UFA Redskins
Lance Johnstone DE UFA Vikings
Sam Adams DT UFA Bills Released by Bills on 3/1/06
Ron Edwards DT UFA Bills
Monsanto Pope DT UFA Broncos
Jason Fisk DT UFA Browns Released 3/14/06
Lional Dalton DT UFA Chiefs
Joaquin Gonzalez DT UFA Colts Released by Colts
Josh Williams DT UFA Colts Released 2/23/06
Willie Blade DT UFA Cowboys
Lance Legree DT UFA Jets Released 2/22/06
James Reed DT UFA Jets
Grady Jackson DT UFA Packers
Brentson Buckner DT UFA Panthers Released by Panthers on 3/1/06
Edward Jasper DT UFA Raiders
Terdell Sands DT UFA Raiders
Kenny Smith DT UFA Raiders
Brandon Noble DT UFA Redskins Released on 3/9/06
Gary Walker DT UFA Texans Told he will be released 3/1/06
Hannibal Navies LB UFA Bengals
Keith Burns LB UFA Broncos
Patrick Chukwurah LB UFA Broncos
Orlando Ruff LB UFA Browns
Ben Taylor LB UFA Browns
Jeff Gooch LB UFA Buccaneers Released on 3/10/06
Rocky Calmus LB UFA Colts
Rob Morris LB UFA Colts
Eric Ogbogu LB UFA Cowboys
Jason Glenn LB UFA Dolphins
Nick Rogers LB UFA Dolphins
Junior Seau LB UFA Dolphins Released on 3/6/06
Keith Adams LB UFA Eagles
Justin Ena LB UFA Eagles
Zeke Moreno LB UFA Eagles
Artie Ulmer LB UFA Falcons
Barrett Green LB UFA Giants Released by Giants on 2/25/06
Nick Greisen LB UFA Giants
Jamie Winborn LB UFA Jaguars
Kenyatta Wright LB UFA Jets
Earl Holmes LB UFA Lions
Wali Rainer LB UFA Lions
Nate Wayne LB UFA Lions
LeVar Woods LB UFA Lions
John Leake LB UFA Packers Released 3/17/06
Na'il Diggs LB UFA Packers Released on 3/2/06
Brandon Short LB UFA Panthers Released on 3/2/06
Chad Brown LB UFA Patriots Released on 3/13/06
DeLawrence Grant LB UFA Raiders
Grant Irons LB UFA Raiders
Tim Johnson LB UFA Raiders
Chris Claiborne LB UFA Rams Released on 3/3/06
Peter Boulware LB UFA Ravens Released on 3/15/06
Tommy Polley LB UFA Ravens
LaVar Arrington LB UFA Redskins Released on 3/5/06
Warrick Holdman LB UFA Redskins
James Allen LB UFA Saints
Ronald McKinnon LB UFA Saints
T.J. Slaughter LB UFA Saints
Kevin Bentley LB UFA Seahawks
Jamie Sharper LB UFA Seahawks Released on 3/2/06
Troy Evans LB UFA Texans
Brad Kassell LB UFA Titans
Sam Cowart LB UFA Vikings
Keith Newman LB UFA Vikings
Raonall Smith LB UFA Vikings
Lawrence Smith OG UFA Bills ERFA was not tendered, will be a UFA
Lewis Dawson OG UFA Browns Released 3/17/06
Matt Stinchcomb OG UFA Buccaneers Released on 3/9/06
Jonathan Goodwin OG UFA Jets
Brock Gutierrez OG UFA Lions
Tyrone Hopson OG UFA Lions
David Loverne OG UFA Lions Released on 3/3/06
Grey Ruegamer OG UFA Packers
Tutan Reyes OG UFA Panthers
Ryan Krug OG UFA Patriots Released on 3/13/06
Stephen Neal OG UFA Patriots
Ron Stone OG UFA Raiders Released on 3/2/06
Tom Nutten OG UFA Rams
Kendyl Jacox OG UFA Saints Released 3/17/06
Anthony Clement OT UFA 49ers
Todd Steussie OT UFA Buccaneers
Adam Haayer OT UFA Cardinals
Kurt Vollers OT UFA Colts
Jacob Rogers OT UFA Cowboys Released on 3/17/06
Ethan Brooks OT UFA Cowboys
Damion McIntosh OT UFA Dolphins Released on 3/1/2006
Jon Runyan OT UFA Eagles
Barry Stokes OT UFA Falcons
Bob Whitfield OT UFA Giants
Mike Pearson OT UFA Jaguars
Ephraim Salaam OT UFA Jaguars
Scott Gragg OT UFA Jets
Todd Fordham OT UFA Panthers
Matt Hill OT UFA Panthers
Chad Slaughter OT UFA Raiders
Orlando Brown OT UFA Ravens Released on 3/16/06
Brad Hopkins OT UFA Titans Released by Titans on 3/1/06
Victor Riley OT UFA
Kyle Richardson P UFA Browns
Sean Landeta P UFA Eagles
Ryan Dutton P UFA Packers Released on 3/2/06
Jason Baker P UFA Panthers
Bryan Barker P UFA Rams
Tom Tupa P UFA Redskins Released on 3/9/06
Tom Rouen P UFA Seahawks
Todd Peterson PK UFA Falcons
Paul Edinger PK UFA Vikings
Jeff Blake QB UFA Bears
Shane Matthews QB UFA Bills
Damon Huard QB UFA Chiefs
Travis Brown QB UFA Colts Released 2/23/06
Andy Hall QB UFA Eagles Released 3/20/06
Ty Detmer QB UFA Falcons
Jay Fiedler QB UFA Jets Released 2/22/06
Vinny Testaverde QB UFA Jets
Chris Weinke QB UFA Panthers
Doug Flutie QB UFA Patriots
Kerry Collins QB UFA Raiders Released on 3/9/06
Jamie Martin QB UFA Rams
Tommy Maddox QB UFA Steelers Released on 3/3/06
Tony Banks QB UFA Texans Released by Texans on 2/28/06
Shaun Hill QB UFA Vikings
Steve Bush RB UFA 49ers
Nick Luchey RB UFA Bengals
Kenny Watson RB UFA Bengals
James Jackson RB UFA Cardinals
J.R. Redmond RB UFA Cardinals
James Mungro RB UFA Colts
Lamar Gordon RB UFA Eagles
Mike Cloud RB UFA Giants
Jerald Sowell RB UFA Jets Released 2/22/06
Paul Smith RB UFA Lions
Najeh Davenport RB UFA Packers
Tony Fisher RB UFA Packers
Stephen Davis RB UFA Panthers Released on 3/1/06
Rod Smart RB UFA Panthers Released on 3/1/06
Omar Easy RB UFA Raiders
Clarence Farmer RB UFA Raiders Waived 2/23/06
Aveion Cason RB UFA Rams
Antowain Smith RB UFA Saints
Anthony Thomas RB UFA Saints
Maurice Morris RB UFA Seahawks
Verron Haynes RB UFA Steelers
Tony Hollings RB UFA Texans Released by Texans on 2/28/06
Jonathan Wells RB UFA Texans
Moe Williams RB UFA Vikings
Ifeanyi Ohalete S UFA Bengals
Antwan Harris S UFA Browns
Jerry Wilson S UFA Chargers Released by Chargers
Joseph Jefferson S UFA Colts
Lynn Scott S UFA Cowboys
Tebucky Jones S UFA Dolphins Released by Dolphins on 3/1/06
Lance Schulters S UFA Dolphins
Jack Brewer S UFA Eagles
Keion Carpenter S UFA Falcons
Antuan Edwards S UFA Falcons
Ronnie Heard S UFA Falcons
Brent Alexander S UFA Giants Released by Giants. Considered retirement.
Deke Cooper S UFA Jaguars
Oliver Celestin S UFA Jets Released by Jets on 2/27/06
Vernon Fox S UFA Lions
Bracy Walker S UFA Lions
Todd Franz S UFA Packers Was RFA. Will not receiver Tender
Earl Little S UFA Packers
Idrees Bashir S UFA Panthers
Michael Stone S UFA Patriots
Jarrod Cooper S UFA Raiders
Reggie Tongue S UFA Raiders
Chad Williams S UFA Ravens
Mel Mitchell S UFA Saints
John Howell S UFA Seahawks
Mike Logan S UFA Steelers Released on 3/6/06
Russell Stuvaints S UFA Steelers Released on 3/6/06
Marco Coleman S UFA Texans Release by Texans on 2/28/06
Tony Stewart TE UFA Bengals
Mark Campbell TE UFA Bills Released by Bills on 3/1/06
Keith Heinrich TE UFA Browns
Lorenzo Diamond TE UFA Dolphins Released on 3/1/2006
Chad Lewis TE UFA Eagles
Chris Baker TE UFA Jets
Zeron Flemister TE UFA Raiders
Cameron Cleeland TE UFA Rams
Brandon Manumaleuna TE UFA Rams
Roland Williams TE UFA Rams
Terry Jones TE UFA Ravens
Brian Kozlowski TE UFA Redskins
Lamont Hall TE UFA Saints
Boo Williams TE UFA Saints Released by Saints on 2/23/06
Marcellus Rivers TE UFA Texans
Johnnie Morton WR UFA 49ers Released by the 49ers on 2/23/06
Reggie Swinton WR UFA Cardinals
Marc Boerigter WR UFA Chiefs
Troy Walters WR UFA Colts
Peerless Price WR UFA Cowboys
David Boston WR UFA Dolphins
Kendall Newson WR UFA Dolphins
Jerome Pathon WR UFA Falcons
Dez White WR UFA Falcons
Tim Carter WR UFA Giants
Harry Williams WR UFA Jets Released 2/22/06. GB Claimed 3/13/06. Released 3/21/06
Troy Edwards WR UFA Lions
Kevin Johnson WR UFA Lions
Andrae Thurman WR UFA Packers Was ERFA, but not tendered. He will be UFA
Ricky Proehl WR UFA Panthers
Troy Brown WR UFA Patriots
Cedric James WR UFA Patriots
Randal Williams WR UFA Raiders
Randy Hymes WR UFA Ravens
Patrick Johnson WR UFA Ravens
Az-Zahir Hakim WR UFA Saints
Michael Lewis WR UFA Saints
Quincy Morgan WR UFA Steelers

[JCMElway]

How many more Browns can we pick up?

[JCMElway]

Name the top 3 wr from this list you'd like the Broncs to sign

Johnnie Morton WR UFA 49ers Released by the 49ers on 2/23/06
Reggie Swinton WR UFA Cardinals
Marc Boerigter WR UFA Chiefs
Troy Walters WR UFA Colts
Peerless Price WR UFA Cowboys
David Boston WR UFA Dolphins
Kendall Newson WR UFA Dolphins
Jerome Pathon WR UFA Falcons
Dez White WR UFA Falcons
Tim Carter WR UFA Giants
Harry Williams WR UFA Jets Released 2/22/06. GB Claimed 3/13/06. Released 3/21/06
Troy Edwards WR UFA Lions
Kevin Johnson WR UFA Lions
Andrae Thurman WR UFA Packers Was ERFA, but not tendered. He will be UFA
Ricky Proehl WR UFA Panthers
Troy Brown WR UFA Patriots
Cedric James WR UFA Patriots
Randal Williams WR UFA Raiders
Randy Hymes WR UFA Ravens
Patrick Johnson WR UFA Ravens
Az-Zahir Hakim WR UFA Saints
Michael Lewis WR UFA Saints
Quincy Morgan WR UFA Steelers

[JCMElway]

1. Troy Walters
2. Tim Carter
3. Ricky Prohel (Does this guy have anything still left in the tank?

[Rascal]

Jason Fisk is a DT of the Browns and he is a UFA. We could get him. :)

[Jens1893]

Troy Brown resigned with the Pats.

Boston, Pathon and Price, but neither of those guys is any better than what we already have. The Buffalo Peerless Price would be a nice #2 as would the 2001 David Boston.

[Rascal]

This list is only UFA...not RFA.

I would attach the excel spreadsheet but that file type isn't allowed.

If you want it yourself go here: http://www.xpertsports.com/forum/displaythread.php?goto=-1&threadid=182064

[Kaylore]

There are no free agents left!!!! Our offseason is WASTED!!!!!111!!!

[WoodMan]

Name the top 3 wr from this list you'd like the Broncs to sign

Johnnie Morton WR UFA 49ers Released by the 49ers on 2/23/06
Reggie Swinton WR UFA Cardinals
Marc Boerigter WR UFA Chiefs
Troy Walters WR UFA Colts
Peerless Price WR UFA Cowboys
David Boston WR UFA Dolphins
Kendall Newson WR UFA Dolphins
Jerome Pathon WR UFA Falcons
Dez White WR UFA Falcons
Tim Carter WR UFA Giants
Harry Williams WR UFA Jets Released 2/22/06. GB Claimed 3/13/06. Released 3/21/06
Troy Edwards WR UFA Lions
Kevin Johnson WR UFA Lions
Andrae Thurman WR UFA Packers Was ERFA, but not tendered. He will be UFA
Ricky Proehl WR UFA Panthers
Troy Brown WR UFA Patriots
Cedric James WR UFA Patriots
Randal Williams WR UFA Raiders
Randy Hymes WR UFA Ravens
Patrick Johnson WR UFA Ravens
Az-Zahir Hakim WR UFA Saints
Michael Lewis WR UFA Saints
Quincy Morgan WR UFA Steelers
Michael Lewis is/was a great kick returner.If he hasn't been injured I would give him a chance. He is a little older though

[SimonFletcher73]

Maybe some of these guys

Michael Lewis WR UFA Saints
Boo Williams TE UFA Saints Released by Saints on 2/23/06
Rocky Calmus LB UFA Colts
Grady Jackson DT UFA Packers
Dale Carter CB UFA Ravens (joking here)

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Ahmed Plummer and ND Kalu...meh, not bad.

[Lestat]

i wish Shanny had a big enough ego to think he could do good with Tim Carter cause i think he'd do well in the Broncos offense if he can stay healthy

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Peter Boulware is still on the list.

[24champ]

Ephraim Salaam OT UFA Jaguars
Maurice Morris RB UFA Seahawks
Reggie Swinton WR UFA Cardinals
Sam Adams DT UFA Bills

[TheManeMan]

ND Kalu...

Brentson Buckner...

David Boston...

[RhymesayersDU]

Willie Middlebrooks CB UFA 49ers
Dexter McCleon CB UFA Chiefs Released on 3/2/06
Eric Warfield CB UFA Chiefs Released on 3/2/06

Sign em!

[BroncoBuff]

Yeah.... I knew all the nay-sayers around here were right. It's just too late to get anybody now.

[Atlas]

I'm thinking if Denver doesn't use a a pick in the first or 2nd round on a wr than Boston would be a great fit in Denver. He wouldn't have to be depended on like he was in the past and he can just come in and play.

He is a huge target and definatley creates mismatches.

[fontaine]

I'm thinking if Denver doesn't use a a pick in the first or 2nd round on a wr than Boston would be a great fit in Denver. He wouldn't have to be depended on like he was in the past and he can just come in and play.

He is a huge target and definatley creates mismatches.

Or Billy Miller if we don't get a TE in the first day!

[-Slap-]

1. Troy Walters
2. Tim Carter
3. Ricky Prohel (Does this guy have anything still left in the tank?
Proehl will retire. A bunch of his Panther teammates had to camp in his garden last summer before he finally relented and returned for his 17th NFL season. I wish we would have acquired this guy earlier. One of the great clutch players of his era. Sort of a Robert Horry type athlete.

[Mile High Shack]

there looks like there are some serviceable UFA available at DE

[Drek]

The guys left that I'd have interest in:

Stephen Neal OG UFA Patriots
Sam Adams DT UFA Bills Released by Bills on 3/1/06
Grady Jackson DT UFA Packers
Damion McIntosh OT UFA Dolphins Released on 3/1/2006
Maurice Morris RB UFA Seahawks
Peerless Price WR UFA Cowboys
David Boston WR UFA Dolphins
Peter Boulware LB UFA Ravens Released on 3/15/06

This wasn't a very good FA crop, a lot of guys got overpaid by teams just planning for '06. If some of the guys above are available for reasonable prices though they'd be intersting acquisitions.

[Elway777]

I like Garry Walker ,a inside pass rusher and Allen ,who could start at Rg. Maybe add Ty Law to start at corner and keep foxworth and William as Nickle and Dime corners.

[Odysseus]

I'm thinking if Denver doesn't use a a pick in the first or 2nd round on a wr than Boston would be a great fit in Denver. He wouldn't have to be depended on like he was in the past and he can just come in and play.

He is a huge target and definatley creates mismatches.

September Receiving Rushing Fumbles
GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Att Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD
09/11 DEN W 34-10 No 1 8 8.0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
09/18 @NYJ L 7-17 No 2 18 9.0 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
09/25 CAR W 27-24 No 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

October Receiving Rushing Fumbles
GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Att Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD
10/09 @BUF L 14-20 Did Not Play
10/16 @TB L 13-27 No 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
10/21 KC L 20-30 Did Not Play
10/30 @NO W 21-6 No 1 54 54.0 54 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

November Receiving Rushing Fumbles
GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Att Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD 11/06 ATL L 10-17 Did Not Play

---I laughed when you suggested this. I looked it up. I laughed again. I laughed because I actually thought about it for a brief second. I am glad I was not drinking milk because I would look really bad right about now. The guy made 4 catches last year?

[Rascal]

Duane Clemons DE UFA Bengals Released on 3/9/06
Ryan Denney DE UFA Bills
Brady Smith DE UFA Falcons Released on 3/3/06
Lance Johnstone DE UFA Vikings

I would like to add at least one of these guys in FA's and they should come at a decent price.

[GSRelyea]

Peerless Price would be interesting at a cheap price. He was a great #2 for the bills and is still young.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Bring back Ephram....

[DarkHorse30]

Kevin Johnson. Ok, I know he was a Brown....but the guy had a 84 catch 1000 yard 9td season in '01 (with the browns). Since then he has been passed around to a coupla bad teams and wound up on Detroit last year......along with 3 first round picks (Williams, Williams, and Rogers). Worth a look, IMO....if we are just picking up depth......and a possible #3.

[azbroncfan]

there are a few retreads out there that would fit right in on the Dline.

[Requiem]

Yeah Rascal, why not add another DE when have have virtually no depth on the inside of our line! Smart thinking.

[Rascal]

Yeah Rascal, why not add another DE when have have virtually no depth on the inside of our line! Smart thinking.

DT is easy to address compared to DE idiot.

[DarkHorse]

Randy Hymes WR UFA Ravens

I'd give Hymes a shot in our system.

[Requiem]

DT is easy to address compared to DE idiot.

How is it easy to address? What names are out there?

[Requiem]

Yeah, don't even bother. No quality free agents at DT that would really help us on our team. Don't tell me we need to get a veteran of 9-12 years when we need youth at the position.

[Rascal]

How is it easy to address? What names are out there?

Last year we had Warren, Myers, and Veal as our DT's basically.

We have them returning this year and these guys are still available:
Gary Walker
Brentston Buckner
Ron Edwards
Travis Hall
Antonio Cochran
Steve Martin
Kenny Smith

[Rascal]

Yeah, don't even bother. No quality free agents at DT that would really help us on our team. Don't tell me we need to get a veteran of 9-12 years when we need youth at the position.

Sorry I have other things to do then sit down and come up with an obvious answer to your question.

We need youth? Warren (28), Myers (30), and Veal (25)?

And Gordon (25).

[Requiem]

Veal is still a free agent and Gordon is a piece of ****. What has he done in the NFL that makes him a good option for us at tackle?

Also, I'm still laughing at the players you mentioned that are "quality" and would be good for our team. Bahaha.

[Requiem]

Gary Walker is old, fat and slow. Not to mention he's missed eighteen games the past three years. What, he's 33 too?

Brentson Buckner is 35 years old. My bet is he retires. Nice try though.

Ron Edwards is injury prone. He's had one good year. I think I'll pass on a guy who is twice as likely to go on IR than to get one sack in a season.

Travis Hall? You're joking right. You want another 34+ year old lineman? Damn, these are some quality guys you're giving us.

Cochran would be probably the best option, but how many games did play last year? Also, he played DE.

Steve Martin? He's played for like 7 teams. Does that tell you something?

Kenny Smith? You're ****ing kidding right? He's played zero games the last two years. I think I just died laughing.

Good job, I think you just dropped my NFL IQ by twenty points. Talk about quality guys in free agency, eh!?

[Rascal]

I don't care if you are laughing or not.

We had an excellent run defense last year with Warren and Myers leading the charge so I, and basically everybody but you, see no reason to work on that issue when we have more glaring needs at DE. We could work on the depth issue, but considering in years past we've done quite well with Fatafehi, Johnson, and Pope I am not concerned about our starters.

In case you missed it, which apparently you have, our biggest problem on defense was a pass rush. And Lang is not a significant improvement in that area and people's blidn faith in Jackson, Engelberger, Vaughn, or Gause to create that pass rush is moronic at best. Our best DE's (Brown and Ekuban) are rush oriented DE's. Lang is the only one with any kind of pass rushing ability.

You go ahead and worry about that #2 rush defense while I and everybody else worry about the pass defense that had nobody with more then 4 sacks one of which was our SAFETY and the other one has LEFT!!!

[Mediator12]

Gary Walker is old, fat and slow. Not to mention he's missed eighteen games the past three years. What, he's 33 too?

Brentson Buckner is 35 years old. My bet is he retires. Nice try though.

Ron Edwards is injury prone. He's had one good year. I think I'll pass on a guy who is twice as likely to go on IR than to get one sack in a season.

Travis Hall? You're joking right. You want another 34+ year old lineman? Damn, these are some quality guys you're giving us.

Cochran would be probably the best option, but how many games did play last year? Also, he played DE.

Steve Martin? He's played for like 7 teams. Does that tell you something?

Kenny Smith? You're ****ing kidding right? He's played zero games the last two years. I think I just died laughing.

Good job, I think you just dropped my NFL IQ by twenty points. Talk about quality guys in free agency, eh!?

Dude, settle down!

Name a Defensive Lineman on the roster from two Years AGO! Wait, you can not can you? What does that tell you? They are in the process of revamping the entire DL. Processes are NOT accomplished in a week or two. They take more time usually.

Rascal is entitled to believe his opinion and probably does not have the time to reasearch the way you did to his post. Guy was just making suggestions that you asked for and then you blow up like that? Nice!

You do not have to agree with him, that is what this board is all about, but at least have a little class.

[Rascal]

Gary Walker is old, fat and slow. Not to mention he's missed eighteen games the past three years. What, he's 33 too?

Brentson Buckner is 35 years old. My bet is he retires. Nice try though.

Ron Edwards is injury prone. He's had one good year. I think I'll pass on a guy who is twice as likely to go on IR than to get one sack in a season.

Travis Hall? You're joking right. You want another 34+ year old lineman? Damn, these are some quality guys you're giving us.

Cochran would be probably the best option, but how many games did play last year? Also, he played DE.

Steve Martin? He's played for like 7 teams. Does that tell you something?

Kenny Smith? You're ****ing kidding right? He's played zero games the last two years. I think I just died laughing.

Good job, I think you just dropped my NFL IQ by twenty points. Talk about quality guys in free agency, eh!?

Since when does your backup DT's need to be young?

Look back at 2005, 2004 and see how many young DT's we had.

And we don't need allstars at DT...when just need serviceable people to give the STARTERS some rest.

[Mile High Shack]

Since when does your backup DT's need to be young?

Look back at 2005, 2004 and see how many young DT's we had.

And we don't need allstars at DT...when just need serviceable people to give the STARTERS some rest.

no kidding

like you said earlier

our DTs weren't the problem last year

our lack of pass rush on the edges was

[Requiem]

You do not have to agree with him, that is what this board is all about, but at least have a little class.

Had he not called me an idiot, I probably would have not said the thing about twenty IQ points dropping. However the names he mentioned, are embarassing and go to show more than him not having enough time to research these players.

[Rascal]

Dude, settle down!

Name a Defensive Lineman on the roster from two Years AGO! Wait, you can not can you? What does that tell you? They are in the process of revamping the entire DL. Processes are NOT accomplished in a week or two. They take more time usually.

Rascal is entitled to believe his opinion and probably does not have the time to reasearch the way you did to his post. Guy was just making suggestions that you asked for and then you blow up like that? Nice!

You do not have to agree with him, that is what this board is all about, but at least have a little class.

We have our starters established along the DT area in Warren and Myers. We don't need young players behind them. We need savy veterans that can come in do a good job while the starters get a breather.

[Rascal]

Had he not called me an idiot, I probably would have not said the thing about twenty IQ points dropping. However the names he mentioned, are embarassing and go to show more than him not having enough time to research these players.

You basically insulted me the post before I called you idiot. If you want bitch about that you need to develop some thicker skin.

You want a young stud DT...whereas I don't. The players I mentioned would do a good job as a backup DT which is what we need. We don't need a young DT to develop (oh wait we have one in Veal).

[Requiem]

Since when does your backup DT's need to be young?

Look back at 2005, 2004 and see how many young DT's we had.

And we don't need allstars at DT...when just need serviceable people to give the STARTERS some rest.

I'd like for them to be young. As you stated Myers is 30. At best, he is an adequate defensive lineman and there could certainly be an upgrade over him.

Perhaps that's a problem with the pass rush... the age of the players playing the position? Perhaps their old age doesn't allow them to do so?

I whole-heartedly agree that we need a pass rusher off the edge who can rack up some big sack numbers, but we also need an undertackle to pair up underneath Warren who can cause some havoc as well. Myers is strong against the run, and barely 'average' against the pass. I like Veal and he was pretty impressive for a guy I didn't even expect to make the roster last year, however he's still an RFA -- have we even made an offer to him yet?

I disagree with you. It's not that I think we need an All-Star guy, however we need an impact player there. Defensive tackles are crucial parts to the line itself. A lot of the pass rush artists are undertackles in systems that are paired up two a huge NT who's taking up two gaps. Kevin Williams is a prime example.

[Requiem]

We have our starters established along the DT area in Warren and Myers. We don't need young players behind them. We need savy veterans that can come in do a good job while the starters get a breather.

Those 35 year old savvy veterans have done well for us in the past, haven't they?

[Mediator12]

Sorry, but rascal calling you an idiot is a sign of affection ;D Just check out the Survivor thread.

This team has been well above average with Street FA's who are out of the NFL Starting at DT with Coyer at the helm. Never once below top 6 against the run.

I respect your opinon about the need for a few more bodies at DT. However, they have a long time to address that and always do. Fatefehi and Holland were brought in During Training camp and became starters.

[Requiem]

You want a young stud DT...whereas I don't. The players I mentioned would do a good job as a backup DT which is what we need. We don't need a young DT to develop (oh wait we have one in Veal).

And yes...you are still an idiot.

The players you mentioned are ones you've probably never seen play and are just names you threw up to try and formulate the argument with. Half of the guys you mention are on the verge of retirement, (see how there has been no interest in them either) and the others spend or have spent most of their season on IR. Bull**** on good back-ups, those guys are far from it.

I like Veal a lot, however he's a RFA, have we offered him a contract, is he back on the team, will he be on the team? As I stated now, we have two guys on our roster, one of them (Myers) is an average starter and could be upgraded.

Talk about ACQB, you're by far the worst.

[Requiem]

This team has been well above average with Street FA's who are out of the NFL Starting at DT with Coyer at the helm. Never once below top 6 against the run.

I respect your opinon about the need for a few more bodies at DT. However, they have a long time to address that and always do. Fatefehi and were brought in During Training camp and became starters.

Which is my point. We have good run stopping defensive tackles, but we lack a nice pass-rusher. A lot of the teams who are consistently getting pressure on the quarterback have a guy like that. Also, our run defense also has to do a lot with the linebackers we have, who by far make more plays in that respect than our lineman do. However, it's nice having a guy like Warren in there, who can take up two gaps and allow our LB's to make plays. (Al Wilson has said that numerous times.)

Thank you for the respect, the same goes to you as well. Yes, they have time to address the need; but there isn't any quality person out there, even a veteran in free agency who would be that good for our team. We need more than a few journeymen at the position, which for several years now are what most of our lineman have been. Average journeymen. We need more than that.

[Mediator12]

Those 35 year old savvy veterans have done well for us in the past, haven't they?

What compared to Pope, Davis, and Reagor did???

DT's are one of the key positions let go after june first cuts as well.

It's all good to disagree, let's just try to be somewhat civil about it or big brother is going to pass some kind of bill to stop it;D

[Requiem]

Yes Mediator, it'll be interesting to see if there are any QUALITY players in June. Pope, Davis and Reagor were just pure **** period. I don't even think I would want to begin talking about them.

[Rascal]

The players you mentioned are ones you've probably never seen play and are just names you threw up to try and formulate the argument with. Half of the guys you mention are on the verge of retirement, (see how there has been no interest in them either) and the others spend or have spent most of their season on IR. Bull**** on good back-ups, those guys are far from it.

I like Veal a lot, however he's a RFA, have we offered him a contract, is he back on the team, will he be on the team? As I stated now, we have two guys on our roster, one of them (Myers) is an average starter and could be upgraded.

Talk about ACQB, you're by far the worst.

Whatever.

Sure DT could be upgraded...but at the cost of upgrading our DE's or another position. Like Med mentioned we were able to use off the street FA's in Holland and Fatafehi in years past as our STARING DT'S!! Warren makes up for the both of them and Myers who is not an all-star (never said he was) is above average and with our defense that is all that is needed.

They weren't just named I threw up to make an argument with. I looked at them and thought...hey this guy would probably come at a cheap price and is good enough that he can give Myers or Warren a breather during the game. You say otherwise...I don't care. It's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

[Rascal]

Those 35 year old savvy veterans have done well for us in the past, haven't they?

Yep they have. Our run defense has been good for years. And your pass rush does not primarily come from your DT's in case you missed it.

[Mediator12]

Hey, let's just solve this with getting Bunkley in the first! Then we have a young DT with pass rush and penetration skills ;D

Agreed. Good. Now carry on, nothing to see here...

[Requiem]

Yep they have. Our run defense has been good for years. And your pass rush does not primarily come from your DT's in case you missed it.

No, I infact stated that we do need a guy who can rush off the edge and put up big numbers. However, when I go back to '03 and '04 -- we had guys like Hayward and Berry who were putting up solid sack numbers off the edge. Too bad we let them go.

[Rascal]

Hey, let's just solve this with getting Bunkley in the first! Then we have a young DT with pass rush and penetration skills ;D

Agreed. Good. Now carry on, nothing to see here...

I'd love to get Bunkey. But I'd be suprised if he fell to us at 15. And then when he did we would all curse shanny for taking Toviessi who decided to make a come back.

[Requiem]

Whatever.

Sure DT could be upgraded...but at the cost of upgrading our DE's or another position. Like Med mentioned we were able to use off the street FA's in Holland and Fatafehi in years past as our STARING DT'S!! Warren makes up for the both of them and Myers who is not an all-star (never said he was) is above average and with our defense that is all that is needed.

They weren't just named I threw up to make an argument with. I looked at them and thought...hey this guy would probably come at a cheap price and is good enough that he can give Myers or Warren a breather during the game. You say otherwise...I don't care. It's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Myers is average. Part of what you say is my point. Perhaps we could have more success pass rushing if we didn't use average lineman as our starting defensive tackles because "we can" since they're effective against the run in the system we run.

Since I've been here, I've stated how big I am on getting a END and TACKLE to help our team. I'm not ignoring end like you think I am.

[Mediator12]

I'd love to get Bunkey. But I'd be suprised if he fell to us at 15. And then when he did we would all curse shanny for taking Toviessi who decided to make a come back.

Stop trying to ruin my optimism you pessimistic Bastage! I have already deciminated smear campaigns internally on all other prospects at that spot, give me a little credit :yayaya:

[Requiem]

Hey, let's just solve this with getting Bunkley in the first! Then we have a young DT with pass rush and penetration skills ;D

Agreed. Good. Now carry on, nothing to see here...

I'd love to get Bunkley, but unless something else happens -- it seems like Savage and the Browns are going to get him. But wait! That means he'll be on our roster in like five years. Five years too late, right? ;)

[Killericon]

My top 5 targets.

Stephen Neal OG UFA Patriots

Peerless Price WR UFA Cowboys

Boo Williams TE UFA Saints Released by Saints on 2/23/06

Chris Weinke QB UFA Panthers

Jason Fisk DT UFA Browns Released 3/14/06

[DBroncos4life]

Whatever.

Sure DT could be upgraded...but at the cost of upgrading our DE's or another position. Like Med mentioned we were able to use off the street FA's in Holland and Fatafehi in years past as our STARING DT'S!! Warren makes up for the both of them and Myers who is not an all-star (never said he was) is above average and with our defense that is all that is needed.

They weren't just named I threw up to make an argument with. I looked at them and thought...hey this guy would probably come at a cheap price and is good enough that he can give Myers or Warren a breather during the game. You say otherwise...I don't care. It's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Don't bother Rascal. Look at every post he has. He calls out everyone here and claims he has all the answers and they are all tools for thinking. I love posters like him.

[Play2win]

:vermeil: :Whaaaa!: :'( :vermeil: :Whaaaa!::Whaaaa!:

[Requiem]

Actually, that's not how I am at all, but if you'd like to play it out like that - more power to you.

[Mediator12]

Don't bother Rascal. Look at every post he has. He calls out everyone here and claims he has all the answers and they are all tools for thinking. I love posters like him.

Sweeeet. Let's get him signed up for Survivor IV and use him for the role of Majik LOL

[Rascal]

Don't bother Rascal. Look at every post he has. He calls out everyone here and claims he has all the answers and they are all tools for thinking. I love posters like him.

Did I tell you to post something?

[Rascal]

Sweeeet. Let's get him signed up for Survivor IV and use him for the role of Majik LOL

No more survivor for me. I'm retired.

[Rascal]

Stop trying to ruin my optimism you pessimistic Bastage! I have already deciminated smear campaigns internally on all other prospects at that spot, give me a little credit :yayaya:

I'll give you credit when I see the results :)

Do or do not, there is no try.

[Mediator12]

No more survivor for me. I'm retired.

DUH! I was talking to DB, that is if you will let him speak master ;D

[Requiem]

Sweeeet. Let's get him signed up for Survivor IV and use him for the role of Majik LOL

Survivor IV?

[DBroncos4life]

Sweeeet. Let's get him signed up for Survivor IV and use him for the role of Majik LOL
Ha, there is a good use.


Sorry Rascal I will as you how I should post next time. :wave:

[Rascal]

Myers is average. Part of what you say is my point. Perhaps we could have more success pass rushing if we didn't use average lineman as our starting defensive tackles because "we can" since they're effective against the run in the system we run.

Since I've been here, I've stated how big I am on getting a END and TACKLE to help our team. I'm not ignoring end like you think I am.

I never claimed Myers was good. With Warren and two solid DE's we should be able to rush the passer much better then in years past. I think Lang could be one of those guys, but none of the others guys IMO have that ability.

I didn't say we should ignore DT, in fact you jumped all over me when I said we should bring in some of the DE's available that I mentioned and you assumed I meant we should ignore DT. It's just that IMO we should focus on getting better DE's more so then better DT's.

[Requiem]

Oh, role playing? I see you got that down well. I think I'll pass! ;)

[DBroncos4life]

Damn those people for not understanding what Rascal was doing. I told them but NOOOOOO don't listen to me. :rofl:

[Mediator12]

Survivor IV?

See he is interested ;D

[Requiem]

I never claimed Myers was good. With Warren and two solid DE's we should be able to rush the passer much better then in years past. I think Lang could be one of those guys, but none of the others guys IMO have that ability.

I didn't say we should ignore DT, in fact you jumped all over me when I said we should bring in some of the DE's available that I mentioned and you assumed I meant we should ignore DT. It's just that IMO we should focus on getting better DE's more so then better DT's.

Engleberger has put up some decent numbers with the 49ers at DE. When they went 3-4 that made him expendable. Perhaps he could go back a few years and help us get 4-6.5 sacks, I'd dig it.

[Play2win]

Sweeeet. Let's get him signed up for Survivor IV and use him for the role of Majik LOL
REALLY!!!

Can you name any Discernible Differences between Majik and this kid...

[Rascal]

Damn those people for not understanding what Rascal was doing. I told them but NOOOOOO don't listen to me. :rofl:

I see you are still very bitter from being owned.

Let it go man. Let it go. ;D

[Requiem]

REALLY!!!

Can you name any Discernible Differences between Majik and this kid...
I wouldn't have sex with Ron Dayne. If this is infact the Majik who was a part of my fantasy football league, who was on other boards... and contemplated taking Dayne #1 overall.

[DBroncos4life]

I see you are still very bitter from being owned.

Let it go man. Let it go. ;D
Blah, blah :D They started to learn after I was gone, but then the damage was done. You guys started rolling through my group. Should have hit early like I wanted too.

[Killericon]

This thread has lost itself...it should be taken out back and shot.

[Mediator12]

I see you are still very bitter from being owned.

Let it go man. Let it go. ;D

Actually, I think he is pissed it took a woman to off you and I when he could not do it himself ;D How's the Ego DB ;)

[DBroncos4life]

Actually, I think he is pissed it took a woman to off you and I when he could not do it himself ;D How's the Ego DB ;)
Shut up pawn, atleast she was on my team. LOL

[TheManeMan]

My top 5 targets.

Stephen Neal OG UFA Patriots

Peerless Price WR UFA Cowboys

Boo Williams TE UFA Saints Released by Saints on 2/23/06

Chris Weinke QB UFA Panthers

Jason Fisk DT UFA Browns Released 3/14/06

Did he really say Chris Weinke?

Hilarious!

[Mediator12]

Shut up pawn, atleast she was on my team. LOL

Oh yes, the pawn that took out the Queen :wiggle: And smalltown was never on your team ;) We just allowed you to think that!

[Killericon]

Yea....what's wrong with Weinke? He'd be a great Backup! Either him or Maddox......The reason why I'd prefer Weinke is because he'd be dirt Cheap.

[DBroncos4life]

Oh yes, the pawn that took out the Queen :wiggle: And smalltown was never on your team ;) We just allowed you to think that!
Ok no one was on my team they just voted the way I wanted them to after I was gone. Oh I hope we meet again in the game Med. This time respect won't stop me from killing you in the first round. :chairhit:

[FantomForce]

Sign Troy Brown the man can do it all and he is a proven winner

[Rascal]

I believe he was signed by the patriots the other day.