Draft reports on current Broncos.

[24champ]

With the draft coming up soon, I was wondering what the "experts" were saying about the current players on our roster before they got drafted by the broncos and whether they lived up to their hype or not. I will start off with Lelie...


With an aging and injured receiving core, wide out was a priority. When Ashley Lelie fell into their laps in the middle of round one he was to good to pass up. Originally considered a top 12 choice, Lelie slid after a sore hamstring prevented him from fully working out for scouts prior to the draft. The combination of weight lifting and weight gain was a bit much for his fragile frame but make no doubt about it; he is a home run hitting pass catcher that runs like the wind and though a little rough around the edges, Lelie has savvy veterans Ed McCaffrey and Rod Smith to help him develop his game and in time could be one of the better bargains from round one.
http://www.footballinjuries.com/tfypostdraft2.htm

[sirhcyennek81]

I would say good synopsis on Lelie.

:Broncos:

[ludo21]

Lelis had one everything i thought he would. Doesnt have the body to go over the middle, altho he does a good job when its asked of him. I cant wait to see how he does next year with Dinger working full time with him.!!

[sirhcyennek81]

Lelis had one everything i thought he would. Doesnt have the body to go over the middle, altho he does a good job when its asked of him. I cant wait to see how he does next year with Dinger working full time with him.!!

Careful, optimism in regard to Lelie causes the natives to lose their cool...

:Broncos:

[ludo21]

Careful, optimism in regard to Lelie causes the natives to lose their cool...

:Broncos:


lol.... Dinger helped Rod round out his game.... im hoping that Lelie works as hard as he did last year, but this time with Dinger helping.

[sirhcyennek81]

lol.... Dinger helped Rod round out his game.... im hoping that Lelie works as hard as he did last year, but this time with Dinger helping.

Tend to agree with you. I think the answer for our WR "problem" is already on the roster, or will be after april 30.

:Broncos:

[ludo21]

Tend to agree with you. I think the answer for our WR "problem" is already on the roster, or will be after april 30.

:Broncos:

We still need to get a guy taht will go over the middle more often rather than Rod, but i think we are set. If we could somehow add a vet(not another Rice, but a possession guy) i wouldnt be opposed at all.

I know people will scream MOULDS!!! But is he wanting out caz of money, we cant afford that.

I think Javon really would be an option since he is still on his rookie deal.

[24champ]

Plummer-


Bill Walsh, who was in and out of the organization several times, was on his way out again at the time. But the 49ers asked him to evaluate Plummer, and evaluate he did. In his report, Walsh made six references to Joe Montana.
But the 49ers didn't get the hint. At the urging of Vinny Cerrato, then their personnel director, they drafted Druckenmiller, who proved to be an absolute stiff. Plummer's early career years were rocky in Arizona, but there is reason to believe that if the 49ers had picked him and he was tutored by Steve Mariucci and Marty Mornhinweg, he probably would have had success much sooner
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/11/SPG5OFMETS1.DTL&feed=rss.raiders

[sirhcyennek81]

We still need to get a guy taht will go over the middle more often rather than Rod, but i think we are set. If we could somehow add a vet(not another Rice, but a possession guy) i wouldnt be opposed at all.

I know people will scream MOULDS!!! But is he wanting out caz of money, we cant afford that.

I think Javon really would be an option since he is still on his rookie deal.

Haas, Hagan, Baskett are good targets. Dinger is good with receivers, so I am not too worried about that position.

:Broncos:

[elsid13]

Vinny Cerrato is an idiot but he continue to get mad money from the Danny Boy to be the b1tch boy.

[SoCalBronco]

Here's some reports on recent draftees.

Darrent Williams

The Good: Speedy corner with a good head for the game. Opportunistic defender that displays excellent ball skills and a knack for the interception. Smart, effective in zone and displays a good close to the play. Quickly breaks on the pass and flashes on the scene.

The Bad: Smallish and not physical supporting the run. Would rather hit or knock down then wrap up and tackle.

Domonique Foxworth

Positives: Alert, instinctive quarterback who immediately locates the ball and makes plays on the pass. Displays solid playing speed, reads the receivers eyes and quickly gets his head back around. Gets vertical to defend the throw. Works to get off blocks and defend the run.

Negatives: Plays back on his heels in man coverage. Undersized and beaten by large receivers.


D.J. Williams

The Good: Tremendous athlete whose physical skills rate at the top of the linebacker list. Plays with excellent speed, quick arriving on the scene and strong at the point. Slides off blocks or defeats them altogether, taking on then beating offensive linemen. Breaks down well playing with leverage and has a nice move to the ball. Excellent range and easily stays with tight ends anywhere on the field. Hard hitter who intimidates opponents or leaves ball carriers stunned at the point of attack.

The Bad: Hesitant to react, lacks the great instincts and not always properly positioned to make a play in pass coverage. Does not take the best angles to the action nor is he an efficient defender.

Darius Watts

Pos: Explosive pass catcher that breaks games wide open when focused. Quick route runner that gets separation from defenders, adjusts to the oncoming throw and displays good eye/hand coordination. Plays much faster than his forty time and has the ability to switch it on then run away from opponents down the field. Tracks the deep ball or gets vertical to make the acrobatic reception. Uses the sidelines well and elusive running after the reception. Instinctive wide out that finds the open spot on the field or gets past the yard markers on third down.

Neg: Continually lets the pass get inside him and cradles it against his body. Does not always come away with the tough grab in traffic. Lazily rounds off his routes at times.

Tatum Bell

Pos: Explosive running back that's made a big move up draft boards the past three months. Tough on the inside, runs with authority through the hole and possesses a straight line burst of speed. Strong, puts his shoulders into opponents and falls forward when tackled. Improved his patience as a senior, waits for blocks to develop and displays the ability to make the first defender miss.

Neg: Must improve his blocking intensity. Not a natural pass catcher. Indecisive running outside of tackle.

George Foster

The Good: Top flight athlete still learning to become an offensive lineman. Quick off the snap of the ball, blocks with solid techniques and effectively adjusts at the line or out on the second level. Keeps his feet active throughout the play, works to stay square, displaying the ability to shuffle and slide off the edge. Good jolt and punch with his arms which he uses to ride oncoming rushers out of their attack angles. Gets out front and takes opposing linebackers out of the play. Stays with the action and relatively strong. Not overly aware of his assignments or quick in his head.

The Bad: A little tentative in most aspects of his game. Has a history of injuries which set back his development.

[DBroncos4life]

Darius Watts

Pos: Explosive pass catcher that breaks games wide open when focused. Quick route runner that gets separation from defenders, adjusts to the oncoming throw and displays good eye/hand coordination. Plays much faster than his forty time and has the ability to switch it on then run away from opponents down the field. Tracks the deep ball or gets vertical to make the acrobatic reception. Uses the sidelines well and elusive running after the reception. Instinctive wide out that finds the open spot on the field or gets past the yard markers on third down.

Neg: Continually lets the pass get inside him and cradles it against his body. Does not always come away with the tough grab in traffic. Lazily rounds off his routes at times.

I wonder why LOL

[baja]

Darius Watts

Pos: Explosive pass catcher that breaks games wide open when focused. Quick route runner that gets separation from defenders, adjusts to the oncoming throw and displays good eye/hand coordination. Plays much faster than his forty time and has the ability to switch it on then run away from opponents down the field. Tracks the deep ball or gets vertical to make the acrobatic reception. Uses the sidelines well and elusive running after the reception. Instinctive wide out that finds the open spot on the field or gets past the yard markers on third down.

Neg: Continually lets the pass get inside him and cradles it against his body. Does not always come away with the tough grab in traffic. Lazily rounds off his routes at times.

I wonder why LOL

That can be coached out of him. The reason I took the bets on Wsatts is because I believe Dinger will coach him through the mental block he suffered from last season.

Bring in Dinger is our best off season move so far

Now go get Ricky!!!

[SoCalBronco]

That can be coached out of him. The reason I took the bets on Wsatts is because I believe Dinger will coach him through the mental block he suffered from last season.

Bring in Dinger is our best off season move so far

Now go get Ricky!!!

I also think Dinger will do a good job with him, although technically Steve Watson is still the wide receivers coach. Its not the Claw, the Claw doesnt matter, it has NOTHING to do with his pass catching struggled. He set the NCAA receiving mark as a sophomore at Marshall with that same hand. Its just mental now. I expect Darius to do a great job this year.

[extralife]

They couldn't have been more wrong about Tatum Bell. Tough on the inside? Indecisive running outside of tackle? Runs with authority through the hole and has developed patience?

He's pretty much the opposite of that: a can that doesn't know how to be a running back, but will absolutely kill you if you let him get outside.

[DBroncos4life]

That can be coached out of him. The reason I took the bets on Wsatts is because I believe Dinger will coach him through the mental block he suffered from last season.

Bring in Dinger is our best off season move so far

Now go get Ricky!!!
Well I like Watts, I adopted him...but the one hand thing is a pretty good reason why he lets the ball get to his body. I still have hopes for him because of everything else that he does so well but that hope is fading.

[Play2win]

Tend to agree with you. I think the answer for our WR "problem" is already on the roster, or will be after april 30.

:Broncos:

I think the "Answer" to our WR Problem is GET A NEW QB... . :poke:

[halfcreek]

Haas, Hagan, Baskett are good targets. Dinger is good with receivers, so I am not too worried about that position.

:Broncos:
Only problem with Hagan is that he can't catch the football.

[Play2win]

I would really like to see the Broncos pick Haas in the later rounds...

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Only problem with Hagan is that he can't catch the football.

Aaaaa I think he led the Pac Ten in catches the last two years.

[Lestat]

i don't give a crap about Haas,Hagan nor Baskett unless we pass on a WR in round 1, even then i want Demetrius Williams or Avant over them(well maybe not over Hagan)

hopefully Jackson will fall to us or we'll trade up & get him

[SoCalBronco]

I like Maurice Stovall and Demetrius Williams the best of all the recievers.

Not a great WR class this year, but those two are at the top of the class, IMO.

[GonzoLays]

IAN GOLD

Former running back. Smaller than ideal. Could get some consideration as a safety. Muscular and fairly strong. Energetic. Reacts quickly and steps up and attacks blocks aggressively -- gets engulfed some but is willing. Plays low. Keeps his feet well. Takes good angles and has a burst through a gap. A little stiff but he redirects well on the move. Has coverage potential. Runs well and is alert in a zone -- picks up backs smartly. Lack of good size factors against him but he's a tough player who does a lot of things well. Should do well on special teams.


Yea Boyeeeee!

[SoCalBronco]

[QUOTE=GonzoLays]IAN GOLD

Plays low. [QUOTE]

Unfortuneatly, I think he plays a little too low.

http://members.aol.com/elainewilliams47/images/ian%20gold%20&%20jeff%20garcia.jpg

[GonzoLays]

[QUOTE=GonzoLays]IAN GOLD

Plays low. [QUOTE]

Unfortuneatly, I think he plays a little too low.

http://members.aol.com/elainewilliams47/images/ian%20gold%20&%20jeff%20garcia.jpg


Out of all the players to get caught with in that position, it had to be Jeff Garcia. Bwahahahaha

[Lestat]

TO was dead on about one thing, Garcia is gayer than Richard Simmons

[Fusionfrontman]

hahahahah!!!
poor Garcia

[halfcreek]

Aaaaa I think he led the Pac Ten in catches the last two years.
He led the combine in dropped passes this year.

[halfcreek]

TO was dead on about one thing, Garcia is gayer than Richard Simmons
You speak from experience?

[Play2win]

IAN GOLD



Unfortuneatly, I think he plays a little too low.


Yeah, just like he did against the Redskins... ;D

[sirhcyennek81]

You speak from experience?

I look at Garcia, and I don't get the gay vibe from him. I look at Brady...bells ringing left and right.

:Broncos:

[24champ]

San Francisco DE Virginia Tech John Engelberger 6-4 / 265
--Good, quick, hard working defensive end. Very similar to Patrick Kerney. Solid character guy. Non-stop motor

Ron Dayne-


Positives: Huge, massive, powerful runner who is very hard to wrap up because he is so wide and thick. Patient runner with excellent vision who sets up and uses his blockers very well. Has very quick feet for a big back and exceptional power when he gets his shoulders turned and starts running downfield. Is built low to the ground and looks like a huge snowball coming down a steep hill once he gets it into gear. Lost weight and was quicker to the corner and shiftier in ’99. Had a great college career.
Negatives: Has had a problem controlling his weight in the past. When he gets too heavy, he loses the agility and quick movements that make him special. Very limited exposure in the passing game and as a blocker. Patient, gliding runner who needs some time to get rolling. Can be stopped if hit early, before he gets his shoulders turned and starts running down the field. Has had a lot of minor injuries in the past. May restrict what a team does on offense. Is at his best if featured in the I-formation. Did not run at the Combine because he was not in great shape.
Summary: Sort of a cross between Jerome Bettis and Natrone Means when he weighs 253 pounds or less. Dayne has excellent feet for a big back and tremendous power once he gets rolling, but he is just another back if hit before he gets into gear and is not a quick, takeoff type of runner. Will have to be a featured back, play in the I-formation and control his weight to be at his best.

[24champ]

Positives: Very tough and competitive. A natural football player with instincts and range. Very quick and active. Has a knack for slipping blocks. Fears no man. A hard hitter who has a mean streak. Makes plays. A team leader. Seemed to play his best against the best teams, such as Florida State.
Negatives: Lacks size. Will get engulfed inside at times. Needs to be protected by the big people in front of him. May need a little time to adjust to the defense he is put in.
Summary: Has a chance to become another Ray Lewis on the field if he is in the right scheme with the right people around him and if he can master a pro defense the way Lewis did.

Newly acquired LB Nate Webster draft report. Some of you may not like the Ray Lewis reference. LOL

[Atlas]

I look at Garcia, and I don't get the gay vibe from him. I look at Brady...bells ringing left and right.

:Broncos:


Your gaydar goes off on Brady?? To me he looks a like he could be gay but I hear he is a real player for the girls. Maybe it's a cover.