Ramsey to Jets

[Smiling Assassin27]

Redskins deal Ramsey to Jets for 6th-round pick By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com


Finally completing a trade that had been rumored for weeks, the New York Jets on Friday afternoon acquired quarterback Patrick Ramsey from the Washington Redskins for a sixth-round choice in the 2006 draft, ESPN.com has learned.


Given the uncertainty over the availability of Chad Pennington, who is rehabilitating from a second rotator cuff surgery five months ago, the Jets considered a variety of options for bolstering their quarterback depth chart. As recently as earlier Friday, the Jets were still in discussions about a trade that would have brought them Falcons backup quarterback Matt Schaub in a deal that would have sent three-time Pro Bowl defensive end John Abraham to Atlanta.


The Jets and Falcons continued on Friday to explore other formulas for completing an Abraham trade.


Ramsey, the Redskins' first-round pick in the 2002 draft, but relegated to reserve status behind Mark Brunell for all but one game in '05, had been sought by several other teams as well. He met last week with Jets officials, including first-year head coach Eric Mangini, but also visited with Tampa Bay officials and was being pursued by Cincinnati. The Miami Dolphins and Detroit Lions also demonstrated interest.


A few weeks ago, Washington was said to be seeking a second- or third-round pick in return for Ramsey, but the Redskins subsequently reduced their asking price. The Jets, until Friday, has been offering a No. 7 draft choice for Ramsey.


New York coaches feel confident, after doing extended research on Ramsey, that he is a starting-caliber quarterback in the league. If Pennington is unable to play at the outset of the season, Ramsey likely will be the starter. The Jets could still use the fourth overall choice in the first round to select a quarterback, but adding Ramsey eliminates the urgency to do so and provides New York more flexibility in the lottery.


Ramsey, 27, has a 10-14 record as a starter. He has completed 480 of 861 passes for 5,649 yards with 34 touchdown passes, 29 interceptions and a 75.0 quarterback rating.



A year or two ago, when it became obvious that coach Joe Gibbs' staff wasn't enamored of Ramsey, the Redskins would almost certainly have commanded a higher price for the former Tulane star. But Washington failed to pull the trigger on a deal, when Sexton could have brought them several suitors. Gibbs sold Ramsey on the notion he would compete for the starting job, then went out and invested a 2005 first-round pick on Auburn quarterback Jason Campbell.


Ramsey started the '05 season opener, was pulled in favor of Brunell at halftime, and didn't log another start the rest of the season. The poor handling of the situation contributed to the fact that Washington had to settle for far less in Friday's trade. Even at a reduced rate, though the Redskins likely had to deal Ramsey or release him, since he had finally become frustrated by his status. The Redskins also needed the salary cap space that Ramsey's departure gives them.


The Jets inherit Ramsey's existing contract, which has just one season remaining, at a base salary of $1.668 million for 2006.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

And the Redskins braintrust is set in motion to see how to crap away their newly acquired draft pick.

[2KBack]

Damn, a 6th round pick? I think that's a deal and a half for the jets

[TheManeMan]

so are any QB's going to be taken in the top 5 of the draft??

[bronco militia]

And the Redskins braintrust is set in motion to see how to crap away their newly acquired draft pick.


they've probably got $10 million set aside for whoever that might be

Ha!

[bloodsunday]

Bet this clears the way for the Abraham deal. Now the Jets don't have to insist on Schaub in the deal, which sounds like the sticking point.

Not sure why there weren't more suitors for a 6th round pick on a former #1 picks that hasn't had a shot. Maybe he carries a big $$$ tag for a backup QB.

[2KBack]

Bet this clears the way for the Abraham deal. Now the Jets don't have to insist on Schaub in the deal, which sounds like the sticking point.

Not sure why there weren't more suitors for a 6th round pick on a former #1 picks that hasn't had a shot. Maybe he carries a big $$$ tag for a backup QB.

Didn't he sign a 40 million dollar deal like 2 seasons ago? The same offseason that Brunell was brought in, there was some controversy surrounding that.

[bloodsunday]

Didn't he sign a 40 million dollar deal like 2 seasons ago? The same offseason that Brunell was brought in, there was some controversy surrounding that.
They have so much damn controversy at QB (Brunell got a 40 million dollar deal after they used a #1 on Ramsey and then they trade away their #1 to us so they could take another QB #1). No one thought they were dumb enough to trade up in the 1st round to take another QB, that might have been there in the second round. Now they get a 6th round pick for Ramsey and they never even really gave him a shot?

Anyway, Ramsey is probably still on his rookie deal. However, unlike veteran deals, those tend to escalate in price.

[maven]

Good move for both teams. Gibbs obviously didn't like him & received a draft pick in return. The Jets is interesting now. They now have Ramsey, Bollinger, and Pennington. Are they still going to draft a QB with the 4th overall pick?

[maven]

They have so much damn controversy at QB (Brunell got a 40 million dollar deal after they used a #1 on Ramsey and then they trade away their #1 to us so they could take another QB #1). No one thought they were dumb enough to trade up in the 1st round to take another QB, that might have been there in the second round. Now they get a 6th round pick for Ramsey and they never even really gave him a shot?

Anyway, Ramsey is probably still on his rookie deal. However, unlike veteran deals, those tend to escalate in price.

Remember Gibbs runs the ship now. He's been there for two seasons. He's cleaning it up & building a team his way.

[bloodsunday]

Remember Gibbs runs the ship now. He's been there for two seasons. He's cleaning it up & building a team his way.
Thats true, you can't go back and change a bad pick. If the market for Ramsey was only a 6th, it was better than nothing. I just don't understand why he wasn't worth something a little more substantial to someone.. maybe 4th or even a 3rd?

In terms of building the team his way.... I don't know. This offseason has the trademark of Snyder all over it. It'll have to let it play out. If anything it stinks of desperation. Snyder is a now kind of guy. Gibbs is not looking to do this for long. And they got a desperately needed cap bump. Denver fans know about the "we're one or two players away" mentality.

[Dudeskey]

Good move for both teams. Gibbs obviously didn't like him & received a draft pick in return. The Jets is interesting now. They now have Ramsey, Bollinger, and Pennington. Are they still going to draft a QB with the 4th overall pick?

Prolly not... D'Brickashaw Ferguson sounds like he might be the order of the day for NY.

[Rascal]

Guess they won't be wanting Shcuab from Atlanta. Wonder if that helps there negotiations a bit.

[Pendejo]

Thats true, you can't go back and change a bad pick. If the market for Ramsey was only a 6th, it was better than nothing. I just don't understand why he wasn't worth something a little more substantial to someone.. maybe 4th or even a 3rd?

In terms of building the team his way.... I don't know. This offseason has the trademark of Snyder all over it. It'll have to let it play out. If anything it stinks of desperation. Snyder is a now kind of guy. Gibbs is not looking to do this for long. And they got a desperately needed cap bump. Denver fans know about the "we're one or two players away" mentality.

The Redskins had absolutely no leverage in dealing Ramsey. It was clear that he was not in their plans at all. Besides that...he hasn't exactly lit up the league...his level of play wasn't high enough to warrant a 3rd or 4th round pick...they're too valuable. I don't know how much interest there was in Ramsey league wide, but it was clearly a buyer's market.

[broncosteven]

Skins got schooled on that deal but at least came away with something for Ramsey. If Ramsey does work out for Jets then they have to resign him next year or redo the deal this year.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

And the Redskins braintrust is set in motion to see how to crap away their newly acquired draft pick.

I bet Sundquist could get it for a used Willie Middlebrooks jock strap.

[elsid13]

Well I sure the Skins fans are going to say that this was great trade. Imagine less then month ago that we saying that they would get a 2nd for Ramsey.

[ColoradoDarin]

Redskins got more for Ramsey than the Eagles got for TO.

[Edskins_RVA]

To be honest, most of us are just glad the "saga of PRAM" is finally over.. Many of us like him and also thought he never got a fair chance to succeed.. However, he came in during the "Spurrier experiment" and was ruined from the start. Gibbs never really trusted him and Pat never gave him a consistent reason to trust him and here we are.

At least Gibbs honred his word and made sure Pat was taken care of for being a good sport last season. We probably got the bad end of this deal, but I'll bet NY was where Pat wanted to go (he wanted a team where he had a shot to be the starter).. Classy move overall...

Like others have said, at least we got something for him.. I'm comfortable with the current QB squad (Brunell, Campbell, & Collins) and only wish the best to PRAM with his new team.. They're gonna need all the help they can get! ;D

[Edskins_RVA]

Remember Gibbs runs the ship now. He's been there for two seasons. He's cleaning it up & building a team his way.
Thank you for noticing! :thumbs:

[Edskins_RVA]

In terms of building the team his way.... I don't know. This offseason has the trademark of Snyder all over it. It'll have to let it play out. If anything it stinks of desperation. Snyder is a now kind of guy. Gibbs is not looking to do this for long. And they got a desperately needed cap bump. Denver fans know about the "we're one or two players away" mentality. The only "Snyder" part of our FA moves is the $$ spending. The picks are all Joe and the boys.. Snyder truly has turned the operation of the team over to Gibbs. Snyder just runs the Redskins "business".. Of course he has some input, but doesn't have the juice (or desire) to interfere with Joe..

Joe says were are done w/ "big"signings.. We're just looking for some depth at CB, OL, & LB now... Joe loves his late round draft picks! He usually finds a gem or two every year...

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Bet this clears the way for the Abraham deal. Now the Jets don't have to insist on Schaub in the deal, which sounds like the sticking point.


Ramsey is not Schaub, and the Jets said weeks ago they view PR as nothing more than a backup.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

This is a terrible trade for all of us who love to see any Skins' fans trade proposal. Up until now, I'd come to believe that Ramsey was actually worth more than Abraham and it was the Jets who would have to throw in picks to acquire a QB who was benched after one half.

[maven]

Prolly not... D'Brickashaw Ferguson sounds like he might be the order of the day for NY.

That's what I'm thinking & draft a franchise left tackle. I think the Jets will run with Ramsey or Pennington as the starting QB this season. They have been dumping players left & right. Also, Abraham definately will be traded. They're not going to bring him back. They will eventually lower their demands & take what they can get. I think the Jets will be the worst team in the league this season, thus be in position to draft Brady Quinn next year.

[RedskinBronco]

This is a terrible trade for all of us who love to see any Skins' fans trade proposal. Up until now, I'd come to believe that Ramsey was actually worth more than Abraham and it was the Jets who would have to throw in picks to acquire a QB who was benched after one half.


There was NO WAY the Jets were going to give up more than a 6th for Ramsey, not after we stole Hall, Thomas, and Coles and then traded a damaged goods coles back to them for Moss. Skins have ripped off the jets way too much. Should have tried to rip off the bucs this time, but I bet the bucs offered a 6th or 7th and they said alright off to the AFC you go.