Carmelo wins another 2 pointer for Nuggets

[eddie mac]

Wow, 17 footer, 2 secs left. 101-99 over the Pacers, 4-1 road trip so far and guess what Kendonitis didn't play. Too close for comfort especially when Denver led by 16 in the 3rd qtr.

Melo had 31 pts, this kid is fvcking awesome.8')

[GonzoLays]

He's no Paul Pierce but the kid is getting there though.

[eddie mac]

He's no Paul Pierce but the kid is getting there though.

We'll trade you Kenyon Martin straight up.;D

[labronco]

Carmelo will be better than Pierce, if not already. The guy has been making clutch shots all his life, and he has winning touch.

I really like Reggie and Patterson. I like them whole lot better than Nene when he was healthy. Any idea if we will be signing them for long term?

[GonzoLays]

Carmelo will be better than Pierce, if not already.

Outside of Kobe Bryant, I doubt there is better scorer in the league than Paul Pierce. You could make a case for Allen Iverson, but he is volume shooter while Paul has brought his shooting percentage right under 50%. Both Kobe Bryant and Ron Artest -- two of the best defenders in the league -- have both stated publicly that Pierce is the toughest guard in the league to cover. George Karl gave him the highest of high praise just the other day after they played the C's. He said and I paraphrase "Paul Pierce doesn't know how good he is. When he got in the league he wanted to be a scorer. But when I coached him in the World Championships I told him that he should be more of a all around player and he is now realizing this. If Paul Pierce wanted to grab 15 rebounds in game he could. If he wanted to concentrate on passing he could dish out 15 assists a game. The game comes easy to him. He finally has a coach in Doc who sees this and look at numbers, probably the best in the league overall."

He is the "truth."

[spdirty]

Melo saved our asses again...nice win, although it shouldn't have come to that.

[extralife]

Melo is unreal. 21 and more clutch than anyone not named Kobe.


Melo is one of the top pure scores in the league, and we're absolutely stupid for not running our offense through him more than we do. Instead, half the game is Boykins running around like an idiot before throwing up a terrible shot, or Andre running through the paint and refusing to kick it out. Bah.

[The MVPlaya]

Outside of Kobe Bryant, I doubt there is better scorer in the league than Paul Pierce. You could make a case for Allen Iverson, but he is volume shooter while Paul has brought his shooting percentage right under 50%. Both Kobe Bryant and Ron Artest -- two of the best defenders in the league -- have both stated publicly that Pierce is the toughest guard in the league to cover. George Karl gave him the highest of high praise just the other day after they played the C's. He said and I paraphrase "Paul Pierce doesn't know how good he is. When he got in the league he wanted to be a scorer. But when I coached him in the World Championships I told him that he should be more of a all around player and he is now realizing this. If Paul Pierce wanted to grab 15 rebounds in game he could. If he wanted to concentrate on passing he could dish out 15 assists a game. The game comes easy to him. He finally has a coach in Doc who sees this and look at numbers, probably the best in the league overall."

He is the "truth."
Please, shut up. Get off Pierce's nuts.

I can say a lot, but Ima just tell you that Pierce is not in the top 5 with PPG in the league...and you're trying to argue that Pierce is the 2nd best scorer? Please.

Melo is shooting 48%...Pierce is shooting 48%.

lol @ Docc Rivers...horrible coach, ain't never been no where.

[Clockwork Orange]

You have to wonder how many last second game winners Carmelo has to hit before teams start double teaming him in that situation. Seriously, you'd think they'd want to get the ball out of his hands and make someone else beat them.

But hey, as a Nuggets fan, all the better for us. Keep trying to play him straight up. Please do.

Oh yeah, Kiki, trade Kenyon Martin. The Nuggets are now 15-4 with him out of the lineup. He's doing nothing for this team but eating up salary cap space. As soon as this season is over, get Isiah on the phone and send Kenyon to New York. He'll fit in perfectly with that gutless disaster of a team.

[Clockwork Orange]

Just a note, Earl Boykins broke his hand in this game and will be out 4-5 weeks.

[extralife]

Just a note, Earl Boykins broke his hand in this game and will be out 4-5 weeks.

Yeah, I heard that. I'm happy. That sounds bad, yeah, and I don't wish him harm or anything, but I'd like to see our team without him.

[spdirty]

Oh yeah, Kiki, trade Kenyon Martin. The Nuggets are now 15-4 with him out of the lineup. He's doing nothing for this team but eating up salary cap space. As soon as this season is over, get Isiah on the phone and send Kenyon to New York. He'll fit in perfectly with that gutless disaster of a team.


No kidding??? 15-4? That would mean we are 22-25 with him IN the lineup. That should tell Kiki something...

[WABronco]

Yeah, I heard that. I'm happy. That sounds bad, yeah, and I don't wish him harm or anything, but I'd like to see our team without him.

From an outsider's view, I wouldn't be too happy with that. Who's gonna take his spot as the 6th man? He is what he is, but he's a good scoring threat.

Hopefully someone can step up for you guys and keep the machine rollin'...

[Nuggets4]

Just a note, Earl Boykins broke his hand in this game and will be out 4-5 weeks.

Someone on the Nugs board said that the Fan said he's out for the playoffs too. This is NOT good news. I'm hardly an Earl fan, but he's our only somewhat reliable outside shot.

Hodge is being called up from the D league and Howard Eisley is now going to be getting some PT.

[Rascal]

Trade Kenyon, Nene, and Lelie for Paul Pierce.

[Clockwork Orange]

Trade Kenyon, Nene, and Lelie for Paul Pierce.

Ainge isn't that dumb.....but Isiah is. :yep:

[yavoon]

I just had to post about this. u saw the knicks bench win in double ot? omg would be it be awesome if larry brown benched ALL HIS STARTERS. few things in life would own more than that. this just went from interesting to hilarious.

[Clockwork Orange]

I just had to post about this. u saw the knicks bench win in double ot? omg would be it be awesome if larry brown benched ALL HIS STARTERS. few things in life would own more than that. this just went from interesting to hilarious.

I saw the clip of Nate Robinson hitting a three in the second OT. I didn't know that Brown had benched his entire starting lineup, good on him. He could probably ride his bench players and have about the same success rate as he has with the collection of overpaid prima donnas he's been starting. The subs might at least play hard.

[yavoon]

I saw the clip of Nate Robinson hitting a three in the second OT. I didn't know that Brown had benched his entire starting lineup, good on him. He could probably ride his bench players and have about the same success rate as he has with the collection of overpaid prima donnas he's been starting. The subs might at least play hard.

or play some defense. I mean the knicks got lotsa problems obviously, but 75% of it could be fixed if they could d up at all. its quite sad really having all those supposedly athletic ppl out there and no1 can defend.

but yah I desperately want to see larry just sit starbury down and watch him mope.

[Rascal]

Marburry is a moron and should be playing street ball only.

[Clockwork Orange]

or play some defense. I mean the knicks got lotsa problems obviously, but 75% of it could be fixed if they could d up at all. its quite sad really having all those supposedly athletic ppl out there and no1 can defend.

but yah I desperately want to see larry just sit starbury down and watch him mope.

Defense is tied directly to work ethic. You don't have to be a good defensive player to at least play hard on the defensive end. An example of that is the Nuggets Eduardo Najera. Not a great defender, but he hustles, rotates, gets his hands up, boxes out and will take a charge. That's all effort. The Knicks just have too many guys who aren't willing to put in the work.

Christ, they don't even have the prospect of a high draft pick to look forward to. They pissed that away to get Eddy Curry and the most noteable thing he's done since he got to NY is put up an astounding 1:12 assist to turnover ratio.

[yavoon]

Defense is tied directly to work ethic. You don't have to be a good defensive player to at least play hard on the defensive end. An example of that is the Nuggets Eduardo Najera. Not a great defender, but he hustles, rotates, gets his hands up, boxes out and will take a charge. That's all effort. The Knicks just have too many guys who aren't willing to put in the work.

Christ, they don't even have the prospect of a high draft pick to look forward to. They pissed that away to get Eddy Curry and the most noteable thing he's done since he got to NY is put up an astounding 1:12 assist to turnover ratio.

Isiah thomas has to be the worst GM in sports history.

[Clockwork Orange]

Isiah thomas has to be the worst GM in sports history.

You'll get no argument from me on that. I only wish that Kiki could have taken advantage of Isiah and dumped Kenyon Martin into the NBA garbage dump known as the Knicks.

[yavoon]

Defense is tied directly to work ethic. You don't have to be a good defensive player to at least play hard on the defensive end. An example of that is the Nuggets Eduardo Najera. Not a great defender, but he hustles, rotates, gets his hands up, boxes out and will take a charge. That's all effort. The Knicks just have too many guys who aren't willing to put in the work.

Christ, they don't even have the prospect of a high draft pick to look forward to. They pissed that away to get Eddy Curry and the most noteable thing he's done since he got to NY is put up an astounding 1:12 assist to turnover ratio.

yah no need to convince me on defense, my 3 favorite nba players are artest, kirilenko and ben wallace. I loves me the defense.

[Clockwork Orange]

yah no need to convince me on defense, my 3 favorite nba players are artest, kirilenko and ben wallace. I loves me the defense.

One of my favorite Nuggets players ever is still T.R. Dunn. Nothing flashy about the guy, but he was always in during crunch time because he played tough defense and hit his free throws.

[RhymesayersDU]

I have always been a huge Larry Brown fan, but this just seals it as he is easily my favorite coach ever. I wish more coaches just benched their stars when they were out of line, not just in basketball but in all sports. That doesn't happen nearly as much as it should.

Anyways, back to the issue at hand. First off, to the guy who said Carmelo is better then Paul Pierce right now, no, he's not. PP is pure greatness. Now, Carmelo will continue to grow and I think the sky is the limit for him. But Paul Pierce he is not... yet.

Didn't see the game tonight as I had a late final exam, but I'm waiting to see highlights of the last second heroics.

Somehow, I'm not sad about Earl Boykins.

I can't wait until summer hits and K-Mart's knee gets 100% back to normal. How about THAT for blind homerism? ;)

[DomCasual]

Isiah thomas has to be the worst GM in sports history.
He should stick to running leagues.

[Clockwork Orange]

He should stick to running leagues into the ground.

Fixed it for ya'. ;D

[RhymesayersDU]

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/NAF10303160248.jpg

[Paladin]

People try to either compare Carmelo to someone else, or keep saying that Carmelo isn't a good as ......... Doesn't matter. Carmelo is carmelo. I wouldn't care if three hundred and eleventy million people say that Paul Pearce is hot damm better, or that Kobe is obviously so much better, or any of that crap. Doesn't matter. There are a large number of people in Denver who enjoy watching that young man play Basketball, and he does not disappoint in delivering excitement. More, he gave this francise a sense of hope that the Nuggets could climb out of the third tier of teams and rise up to compete with the first tier teams in the NBA. They may not be League Champions, and that doesn't matter, either. It is great to go to the game, and have some reasonable expectation that the Nuggets will be at least competitve, and could possibly win more than they lose. So, there are a lot of people going to the games and watching them on TV, and they are great entertainment. Carmelo is an integral part of that change in the Denver attitude towards the Nuggets.

The comparison crap is just BS. I just enjoy them and I am impressed with Carmelo, and I pay to watch them. You got a problem with that?

[Clockwork Orange]

People try to either compare Carmelo to someone else, or keep saying that Carmelo isn't a good as ......... Doesn't matter. Carmelo is carmelo. I wouldn't care if three hundred and eleventy million people say that Paul Pearce is hot damm better, or that Kobe is obviously so much better, or any of that crap. Doesn't matter. There are a large number of people in Denver who enjoy watching that young man play Basketball, and he does not disappoint in delivering excitement. More, he gave this francise a sense of hope that the Nuggets could climb out of the third tier of teams and rise up to compete with the first tier teams in the NBA. They may not be League Champions, and that doesn't matter, either. It is great to go to the game, and have some reasonable expectation that the Nuggets will be at least competitve, and could possibly win more than they lose. So, there are a lot of people going to the games and watching them on TV, and they are great entertainment. Carmelo is an integral part of that change in the Denver attitude towards the Nuggets.

The comparison crap is just BS. I just enjoy them and I am impressed with Carmelo, and I pay to watch them. You got a problem with that?

As a lifelong Nuggets fan, I couldn't agree more. Rep.

[spdirty]

People try to either compare Carmelo to someone else, or keep saying that Carmelo isn't a good as ......... Doesn't matter. Carmelo is carmelo. I wouldn't care if three hundred and eleventy million people say that Paul Pearce is hot damm better, or that Kobe is obviously so much better, or any of that crap. Doesn't matter. There are a large number of people in Denver who enjoy watching that young man play Basketball, and he does not disappoint in delivering excitement. More, he gave this francise a sense of hope that the Nuggets could climb out of the third tier of teams and rise up to compete with the first tier teams in the NBA. They may not be League Champions, and that doesn't matter, either. It is great to go to the game, and have some reasonable expectation that the Nuggets will be at least competitve, and could possibly win more than they lose. So, there are a lot of people going to the games and watching them on TV, and they are great entertainment. Carmelo is an integral part of that change in the Denver attitude towards the Nuggets.

The comparison crap is just BS. I just enjoy them and I am impressed with Carmelo, and I pay to watch them. You got a problem with that?

Great post.

[rubaiyat]

You have to wonder how many last second game winners Carmelo has to hit before teams start double teaming him in that situation. Seriously, you'd think they'd want to get the ball out of his hands and make someone else beat them.

But hey, as a Nuggets fan, all the better for us. Keep trying to play him straight up. Please do.

Oh yeah, Kiki, trade Kenyon Martin. The Nuggets are now 15-4 with him out of the lineup. He's doing nothing for this team but eating up salary cap space. As soon as this season is over, get Isiah on the phone and send Kenyon to New York. He'll fit in perfectly with that gutless disaster of a team.

Except that we couldn't have gotten Ruben or Evans, I wouldn't have minded trading Watson and Kenyon for Penny's expiring contract and something thrown in...cause unless we can get 3 months of good work out of Kenyon straight, I think even the Knicks won't want him now...and we sure as heck won't be able to get anything better back (ie big ugly contract).

[rubaiyat]

No kidding??? 15-4? That would mean we are 22-25 with him IN the lineup. That should tell Kiki something...

It's his boy...he knew him from college and was willing to spot him almost a max contract and give up three picks to bring him in for "defensive intensity". And this is a contract year for Kiki...the reason he wasn't willing to blow Kenyon's contract up with the Knicks and try again.

[rubaiyat]

He's no Paul Pierce but the kid is getting there though.

And imagine him with Pierce in Celts Green.

Melo could have been yours, but the front office decided to exercise their pick from Denver in 2001...and got Kedrick Brown

[Master___Pain]

He's no Paul Pierce but the kid is getting there though.

You are a Celts homer, we get that. Got anything interesting to add to the conversation?

[TheManeMan]

and whoever thinks 'Melo is better than Pierce is a true Nugs homer...

one of the funniest things i've read today...

[Master___Pain]

and whoever thinks 'Melo is better than Pierce is a true Nugs homer...

one of the funniest things i've read today...

I certainly never said that Melo is better. I am just tired of Gonzo always posting something about a Celtic in a Nuggets thread. It's really old. It's like a chief fan butting into a conversation that has nothing to do with the chiefs.

See Paladin's post above. That pretty much is my take on Melo too.

[TheManeMan]

thats why i didnt quote you...I wasnt replying to what you had said...I was responding to whoever started the 'Melo/Pierce comparison, and to whoever believed it...thats all...

[Master___Pain]

thats why i didnt quote you...I wasnt replying to what you had said...I was responding to whoever started the 'Melo/Pierce comparison, and to whoever believed it...thats all...

I just wanted to clarify. But I am certainly a Nuggs homer^5

[rubaiyat]

I certainly never said that Melo is better. I am just tired of Gonzo always posting something about a Celtic in a Nuggets thread. It's really old. It's like a chief fan butting into a conversation that has nothing to do with the chiefs.

See Paladin's post above. That pretty much is my take on Melo too.

Well, he could have some tangential interest. I mean, Melo could have been a Celtic had their front office been patient...keeping a bonus 1st round draft pick from a (back then) terrible Nuggets squad in a strong conference instead of settling for a #12 pick.

[Master___Pain]

Well, he could have some tangential interest. I mean, Melo could have been a Celtic had their front office been patient...keeping a bonus 1st round draft pick from a (back then) terrible Nuggets squad in a strong conference instead of settling for a #12 pick.

Could be, however I just think he enjoy's crapping on the Nugget threads.

[Boobs McGee]

Melo is Mr. Clutch

In any case, we looked pretty beat for most of the 3rd and all but the last 2 minutes of the 4th.

Hope we have enough juice left to take out memphis.

BTW, Reggie Evans is a bada$$. That kid can pull down some boards...kind of reminds me of a bulls era rodman

[rubaiyat]

Melo is Mr. Clutch

In any case, we looked pretty beat for most of the 3rd and all but the last 2 minutes of the 4th.

Hope we have enough juice left to take out memphis.

BTW, Reggie Evans is a bada$$. That kid can pull down some boards...kind of reminds me of a bulls era rodman

Might want to give Memphis a break. As it stands they are 6th and we can beat them in a series. If they lose that spot then its the Lakers or Kings...and we haven't shown we can win in Arco, and Kobe always comes to play in Denver.

[Master___Pain]

Might want to give Memphis a break. As it stands they are 6th and we can beat them in a series. If they lose that spot then its the Lakers or Kings...and we haven't shown we can win in Arco, and Kobe always comes to play in Denver.

Naw, just keep winning games and sort it out when the playoffs start. I have no fear of the lakers, especially with the aquisition of the self proclaimed Kobe stopperHilarious!

[Boobs McGee]

Might want to give Memphis a break. As it stands they are 6th and we can beat them in a series. If they lose that spot then its the Lakers or Kings...and we haven't shown we can win in Arco, and Kobe always comes to play in Denver.

You don't suppose he's still pissed about the whole eagle county thing, do ya?Ha!

[RhymesayersDU]

BTW, Reggie Evans is a bada$$. That kid can pull down some boards...kind of reminds me of a bulls era rodman

Totally! The other night he had 0 points and 20 rebounds. I'm so glad we got him.

[Master___Pain]

Even the Pacer fans don't like Kenyon

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2370496

Updated: March 16, 2006, 1:06 AM ET
Boykins breaks hand in Nuggets win over Pacers
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- Marcus Camby's left hand was so sore Wednesday night, a reporter had to open the locker room door for him. Earl Boykins looked even worse, grimacing as he walked through the Conseco Fieldhouse hallways.

Denver left Indiana with a 101-99 victory. But it came with a cost.

Boykins, a backup point guard, apparently banged his hand in the fourth quarter. Postgame X-rays revealed a fracture that will send him back to Denver on Thursday, before the rest of his teammates complete their seven-game road trip.

"It's pretty serious," coach George Karl said. "A broken hand is probably going to keep him out a minimum of four to five weeks. We'll have to use our depth to compensate for his loss."

The Northwest Division leaders have dealt with injuries all season. They are in the midst of playing seven games in 10 days, their longest road trip of the season, and they were already short-handed Wednesday night.

"We are a little fatigued," swingman Ruben Patterson said. "It's been a difficult road trip."

Things got even tougher before Wednesday night's game started.

Denver officials announced that forward Kenyon Martin would not play because of tendinitis in his left knee. Martin managed to play only 10 minutes against the New York Knicks on Monday before leaving with the same problem.

Instead, he sat at the end of the bench and traded barbs with fans and officials.

Then there was Camby, who walked into the X-ray room about one hour before tipoff to check his sore left hand. Fortunately for Denver, the results weren't bad enough to keep Camby out.

He started, played nearly 36 minutes and finished with 10 points, 13 rebounds and seven blocks, his sixth straight game with at least five blocks.

Afterward, though, there was a large ice pack wrapped around his left hand.

The Nuggets now head to Memphis and New Orleans for back-to-back games Friday and Saturday before getting a much needed three-day rest.

[RhymesayersDU]

Everybody says Camby is soft. But in reality, the reason his hands are always banged up is because he's constantly swatting away basketballs.

Take it easy there Marcus, try to limit yourself to like 3 blocks a night. ;)

[Clockwork Orange]

Denver officials announced that forward Kenyon Martin would not play because of tendinitis in his left knee. Martin managed to play only 10 minutes against the New York Knicks on Monday before leaving with the same problem.

Instead, he sat at the end of the bench and traded barbs with fans and officials.

That's about all he's been good at this season. I'm surprised he didn't send someone from his posse out to do his **** talking for him again.

[RhymesayersDU]

That's about all he's been good at this season. I'm surprised he didn't send someone from his posse out to do his **** talking for him again.
Just think... if Kenyon had to go out and deal with hecklers himself, he'd have to walk to them and further put stress on the knee.

So in reality, K-Mart's posse is helping him heal and is good for the Denver Nuggets.







You haven't even seen homerism and spin like the before. ;)

[Clockwork Orange]

Just think... if Kenyon had to go out and deal with hecklers himself, he'd have to walk to them and further put stress on the knee.

So in reality, K-Mart's posse is helping him heal and is good for the Denver Nuggets.







You haven't even seen homerism and spin like the before. ;)

You're dedicated, I'll give you that much. ;D

[BroncoBuff]

It's good to be Nuggets Nation right about now .... if Wesley Person signs, I wouldn't wanna be our Round 1 opponent, that's for sure.

[Master___Pain]

It's good to be Nuggets Nation right about now .... if Wesley Person signs, I wouldn't wanna be our Round 1 opponent, that's for sure.

Is there a chance? Here's the current twelve with Nene and Boykins on the injured list. Not sure how we make room for Wes.

PG: Dre, Eisley
SG: Dermarr, Hodge, Buckner
SF: Melo, Klieza, Patterson,
PF: Evans, Najera,
C: Camby, Elson

[BroncoBuff]

Is there a chance? Here's the current twelve with Nene and Boykins on the injured list. Not sure how we make room for Wes.

PG: Dre, Eisley
SG: Dermarr, Hodge, Buckner
SF: Melo, Klieza, Patterson,
PF: Evans, Najera,
C: Camby, Elson
That is tight .... but as much as I like DerMarr, I'd rather have a 3-point threat.

How long is Boykins out?

[The MVPlaya]

That is tight .... but as much as I like DerMarr, I'd rather have a 3-point threat.

How long is Boykins out?

reported @ 4-6 weeks.

[spdirty]

It's good to be Nuggets Nation right about now .... if Wesley Person signs, I wouldn't wanna be our Round 1 opponent, that's for sure.

Dude, George shortened the bench they didn't play him in last years playoffs. Im sure they wouldn't play him thie year as well.

[GonzoLays]

Well, he could have some tangential interest. I mean, Melo could have been a Celtic had their front office been patient...keeping a bonus 1st round draft pick from a (back then) terrible Nuggets squad in a strong conference instead of settling for a #12 pick.

No young buck, the C's drafted Kedrick Brown in 2001 and Carmelo was drafted in 2003. Now if were patient enough, we could have the landed the budding superstar Nikolv Tshivialdifjelaksiki. Remember that guy? The number five pick of the 2002 draft? So in the end, who was the bigger bust Kedrick or Skita? Hmmm, that is tough one but you go to with the guy who was drafted fifth instead eleventh wouldn't you agree?

[rubaiyat]

You don't suppose he's still pissed about the whole eagle county thing, do ya?Ha!

Not really, more how the fans treated him...Kobe is nothing if not competitive and pettily so.

He has such big games cause he'll be damned if a middle American fanbase will look their noses down on him.

[Clockwork Orange]

No young buck, the C's drafted Kedrick Brown in 2001 and Carmelo was drafted in 2003. Now if were patient enough, we could have the landed the budding superstar Nikolv Tshivialdifjelaksiki. Remember that guy? The number five pick of the 2002 draft? So in the end, who was the bigger bust Kedrick or Skita? Hmmm, that is tough one but you go to with the guy who was drafted fifth instead eleventh wouldn't you agree?

Doesn't much matter. Brown or Skita, the Celtics would still be the irrelevant 27-37 team they are right now. I'd call it a wash.

[rubaiyat]

No young buck, the C's drafted Kedrick Brown in 2001 and Carmelo was drafted in 2003. Now if were patient enough, we could have the landed the budding superstar Nikolv Tshivialdifjelaksiki. Remember that guy? The number five pick of the 2002 draft? So in the end, who was the bigger bust Kedrick or Skita? Hmmm, that is tough one but you go to with the guy who was drafted fifth instead eleventh wouldn't you agree?

Could have waited another year. Given it was ESPN's Page 2 guy...a guy who eats and drinks and BREATHES Boston area sports and is a major homer, I'm gonna go with him to know what he was talking about over say a random internet poster.

And that doesn't hurt me at all. Skita got us Najera, what has Kedrick gotten for the Celts?? And obviously it would have been the Celts choice who to draft so they could have had anyone from #5 on down in that draft if (as you are apparently hyping) they NEEDED to get someone from the 02 draft (Nene, Amare, even Boozer assuming his current injury bug isn't Grant Hillitis). But you guys could have had Melo in 03, simple as that.

[GonzoLays]

Doesn't much matter. Brown or Skita, the Celtics would still be the irrelevant 27-37 team they are right now. I'd call it a wash.

Now if you really want it to burn, and I mean buuuurn, you guys COULD have selected Amare Staudamire with the fith pick that year. So you could of had Amare AND Carmelo buuuuuutt Kiki felt the 7'1" 18 year old foreigner was a better fit for the Nuggs. Ah, those damn GM's huh?

And oh yea Clockwork Orange:

Boston Celtics 16 NBA Championships
Denver Nuggets ? How many do they have again? I forget...

[GonzoLays]

Could have waited another year. Given it was ESPN's Page 2 guy...a guy who eats and drinks and BREATHES Boston area sports and is a major homer, I'm gonna go with him to know what he was talking about over say a random internet poster.



You see that is simply moronic because a team would NEVER pass over the 5th pick in the draft to hope for a better draft position the next season. Nope doesn't happen. So you don't make any sense. Any teams GM would be driven out of town if he told his fanbase that they were not going to pick up the rights to the 5th pick of the draft. Stupid.

[rubaiyat]

Now if you really want it to burn, and I mean buuuurn, you guys COULD have selected Amare Staudamire with the fith pick that year. So you could of had Amare AND Carmelo buuuuuutt Kiki felt the 7'1" 18 year old foreigner was a better fit for the Nuggs. Ah, those damn GM's huh?

And oh yea Clockwork Orange:

Boston Celtics 16 NBA Championships
Denver Nuggets ? How many do they have again? I forget...


We had TWO picks that year. And it was wasted on Skita no doubt. But given the choice was a raw European with Dirk like potential or a troubled 19 year old that went to almost a dozen high schools for various reasons...it was understandable. Amare has had a history of injury in his 4 year career, and considering he blossomed with an MVP point guard, that is winning without him as he sits injured (at the beginning of a max contract)...we'll see.

And like I said, by that token the Celts could have had Amare as well.

[GonzoLays]

.

And like I said, by that token the Celts could have had Amare as well.

See, I would agree with that assessment.

[Clockwork Orange]

Now if you really want it to burn, and I mean buuuurn, you guys COULD have selected Amare Staudamire with the fith pick that year. So you could of had Amare AND Carmelo buuuuuutt Kiki felt the 7'1" 18 year old foreigner was a better fit for the Nuggs. Ah, those damn GM's huh?

And oh yea Clockwork Orange:

Boston Celtics 16 NBA Championships
Denver Nuggets ? How many do they have again? I forget...

We came out of that draft day with Nene and Marcus Camby, intregal parts to the Nuggets getting back to the playoffs. You know, the playoffs? Those games that will be going on while Boston is on the golf course next month?

As for your championships, congratulations. Were you even alive for any of them? Tell you what, break out the ol' reel to reel projector (I'm sure the local elementary school has one handy that you can borrow) and watch the highlights of them if it makes you feel better about the current state of your once proud franchise.

As for the here and now, your team is irrelevant.

[rubaiyat]

You see that is simply moronic because a team would NEVER pass over the 5th pick in the draft to hope for a better draft position the next season. Nope doesn't happen. So you don't make any sense. Any teams GM would be driven out of town if he told his fanbase that they were not going to pick up the rights to the 5th pick of the draft. Stupid.

With a team as bad as the Nuggets were? As I remember, they were favorites in the preseason and for most of that year to beat the record for worst win/loss in NBA history. They actually exceeded expectations by winning as many as they did...especially since EVERYONE knew about Lebron and him coming out in 03. So it would have been a tough swallow. I agree with that, but those are the facts.

[GonzoLays]

We came out of that draft day with Nene and Marcus Camby, intregal parts to the Nuggets getting back to the playoffs. You know, the playoffs? Those games that will be going on while Boston is on the golf course next month?

As for your championships, congratulations. Were you even alive for any of them? Tell you what, break out the ol' reel to reel projector (I'm sure the local elementary school has one handy that you can borrow) and watch the highlights of them if it makes you feel better about the current state of your once proud franchise.

As for the here and now, your team is irrelevant.

HA! We have made the playoffs four years in a row. We even made it to the Eastern Conference finals three seasons ago. So I don't know what you are talking about. What playoff streak do the Nuggs have going on? Have the nuggs even won a playoff series in the past seven years?

[Clockwork Orange]

With a team as bad as the Nuggets were? As I remember, they were favorites in the preseason and for most of that year to beat the record for worst win/loss in NBA history. They actually exceeded expectations by winning as many as they did...especially since EVERYONE knew about Lebron and him coming out in 03. So it would have been a tough swallow. I agree with that, but those are the facts.

Especially since Kiki had just cleaned house, getting rid of Van Exel, Lafrentz, Wahad and Avery Johnson. The only thing they had going for them at the time was Antonio McDyess and he was going rounds with his most recent bout of knee issues. It was obvious to everyone that the Nuggets were going to be horrible that year. Kiki had already said that they were looking ahead to the coming draft and the summer in which they'd have a lot of cap space to use once Juwon Howard's deal came off the books. They were being run by a rookie head coach and the talent level was minimal.

Everyone makes mistakes (and the Nuggets have made more than their fair share) but the Celtics humped the bunk on this one.

[Clockwork Orange]

HA! We have made the playoffs four years in a row. We even made it to the Eastern Conference finals three seasons ago. So I don't know what you are talking about. What playoff streak do the Nuggs have going on? Have the nuggs even won a playoff series in the past seven years?

If only we could have been in the pathetic Eastern Conference, maybe we could have.

How're your playoff prospects looking this year?

[rubaiyat]

Especially since Kiki had just cleaned house, getting rid of Van Exel, Lafrentz, Wahad and Avery Johnson. The only thing they had going for them at the time was Antonio McDyess and he was going rounds with his most recent bout of knee issues. It was obvious to everyone that the Nuggets were going to be horrible that year. Kiki had already said that they were looking ahead to the coming draft and the summer in which they'd have a lot of cap space to use once Juwon Howard's deal came off the books. They were being run by a rookie head coach and the talent level was minimal.

Everyone makes mistakes (and the Nuggets have made more than their fair share) but the Celtics humped the bunk on this one.
And Dice was sent to the Knicks that draft and we got Camby that was nursing a long term injury (only played like 20 games in the later half of that year). I mean Howard was our hands down MVP that year. Gods those were terrible times...though I honestly wouldn't have minded signing Howard to a moderate contract rather than investing in K-mart.

[GonzoLays]

If only we could have been in the pathetic Eastern Conference, maybe we could have.

How're your playoff prospects looking this year?

This year you could say the playoff chances are looking dismal. We are four games out of the final playoff spot. BUT we are team loaded with talented young players (third youngest team in the league) and we have SIX first round draft picks in the next three seasons. Thats right SIX. Add that to the list of Delonte West, Al Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins, Ryan Gomes, and Gerald Green you must have to admit that we are headed in the right direction.

And you know this aswell, the NBA devours its young and we are the third youngest team in basketball yet we are still in the race for playoffs. I can dig it.

[Paladin]

This year you could say the playoff chances are looking dismal. We are four games out of the final playoff spot. BUT we are team loaded with talented young players (third youngest team in the league) and we have SIX first round draft picks in the next three seasons. Thats right SIX. Add that to the list of Delonte West, Al Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins, Ryan Gomes, and Gerald Green you must have to admit that we are headed in the right direction.

And you know this aswell, the NBA devours its young and we are the third youngest team in basketball yet we are still in the race for playoffs. I can dig it.

WGAF about the stupid celtics? Far as I can tell, only poeple who would come to a football board and cream themselves over a has-been basketball team are numbnuts and brainless juvies. Whatever, dude. No one I know cares. That makes them irrelavent.