Who would you rather the Broncos sign?

[listopencil]

Given the particulars of each situation (TO's $ demands, Keyshawn's antics, etc.), who would you rather see us sign this year?

[SoCalBronco]

Neither

[listopencil]

Neither


What, no love for Leon?

[Clockwork Orange]

Meshawn.

I'm not worried about his act since he wouldn't be counted on to be anything more than a possession receiver, unlike Owens who would be counted on to be the difference maker. What he brings to the field would be a nice fit.

[listopencil]

Meshawn.

I'm not worried about his act since he wouldn't be counted on to be anything more than a possession receiver, unlike Owens who would be counted on to be the difference maker. What he brings to the field would be a nice fit.


That's what I was thinking. The guy can run block well too. I don't recall, has there been a lot of goofiness coming out of MeShawn's mouth lately?

[Clockwork Orange]

That's what I was thinking. The guy can run block well too. I don't recall, has there been a lot of goofiness coming out of MeShawn's mouth lately?

He and Nancy Drew had a little tiff on the sideline last year during a game, but they seemed to squash it without further incident.

Far as I know he hasn't been a problem since he got to Dallas.

[Jens1893]

Javon Walker. Ive warmed up to the idea.

[listopencil]

He and Nancy Drew had a little tiff on the sideline last year during a game, but they seemed to squash it without further incident.

Far as I know he hasn't been a problem since he got to Dallas.



I bet working under Parcells was good for him. The guy just does not take crap off of people.

[Popps]

Leon.

At least he's honest.

[Popps]

Meshaw has actually behaved pretty well the last couple of seasons, from what I understand. I think he'd be a great fit in our offense if he can shut up.

Less risk with him, but of course... less potential upside.

[listopencil]

Leon.

At least he's honest.


...somebody could have jumped on one of those fumbles. Leon can't do everything.

[-Slap-]

Andre Rison.

[baja]

It's my week to be on the TO band wagon but next week I will hate the idea..

[extralife]

They only reason Key hasn't run his mouth is because he's in love with Parcells. Get him on a different team, and it'll be the same old story.

[NFLBRONCO]

We can't afford TO and Abe now anyways looks like we focus on draft. Our plan might be trade mid round picks for players like we did last year.

[HEAV]

It's kinda like when you go christmas shopping for your kid, or someone else's child, and you go to the action figure isle. But all that's left is the lame bad guy gronnies and one super hero, but you not sure if that what the kid wants..........................

oh ya I voted for T.O.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

We can't afford TO and Abe now anyways looks like we focus on draft.

That's at least twice today you've said they can't afford anyone. Shanahan hasn't touched his big deals like in year's past. The money is easily there if he wants it. The dip-**** retards in the papers have no clue what they're talking about.

[NFLBRONCO]

We can't afford Abe now anyways. Why don't we use mid round picks for players like Warren last year. We can get guys we need at a price we can handle.

[Dagmar]

I'd rather Ricky.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

We can't afford Abe now anyways.

Yes they can

[Hercules Rockefeller]

and this says Shanny can get who he wants if he'd get off his ass

Champ- $5.5M
Lepsis- $2.8M
Al- $3.9M
Jake- $4.3M
Rod- $3M

Total- 19.5M in base salaries that haven't been touched yet, including 4 players who have shown a willingness to restructure in the past.

[HEAV]

and this says Shanny can get who he wants if he'd get off his ass

Champ- $5.5M
Lepsis- $2.8M
Al- $3.9M
Jake- $4.3M
Rod- $3M

Total- 19.5M in base salaries that haven't been touched yet, including 4 players who have shown a willingness to restructure in the past.


Trust me on this. Jake will do anything to help the team and namely the offense!

[Paladin]

They only reason Key hasn't run his mouth is because he's in love with Parcells. Get him on a different team, and it'll be the same old story.

Ah, but now, Meshawn has been slighted, and the fires of revenge and hostility may burn deeply in his little heart, for even h3ll does not know the fury of an imperialistic, materialistic egoisticical goofball scorned......

He'll be pi$$ed, I'd imagine. Prolly would rather sign with someone who plays the 'Boys a couple of times next year, ne ces pas?

[baja]

Trust me on this. Jake will do anything to help the team and namely the offense!

Alec in the sticky thread says we should not trust you unless you provide a link. ;D ;D

[CBF1]

TO.... With Leon running a close 2nd. Anyone but meshawn

[sirhcyennek81]

I want denver to sign players who want to be here. helping this team win its third title. If that is not what the player is about, get the **** out.

:Broncos:

[Dudeskey]

Give Kevin Curtis a better offer sheet than St. Louis is offering... there's a sleeper IMO

[Popps]

and this says Shanny can get who he wants if he'd get off his ass

Champ- $5.5M
Lepsis- $2.8M
Al- $3.9M
Jake- $4.3M
Rod- $3M

Total- 19.5M in base salaries that haven't been touched yet, including 4 players who have shown a willingness to restructure in the past.

Bingo.

I just love how people around here assume our front office will suddenly just go dumb on this one contract. (Abraham)

Can't wait to see Abraham terrorizing QBs in a Bronco uni.

[Atlas]

and this says Shanny can get who he wants if he'd get off his ass

Champ- $5.5M
Lepsis- $2.8M
Al- $3.9M
Jake- $4.3M
Rod- $3M

Total- 19.5M in base salaries that haven't been touched yet, including 4 players who have shown a willingness to restructure in the past.

Lepsis just signed a deal. You want him to restructure it? Denver doesn't have to make any drastic restructurings. This is what has gotten Denver tight against the cap in previous years. Denver has plenty of money to get what they need without overpaying.

If Owens is too high. get Moulds, Walker, or Keyshaun. If Abe is too high than draft a DE. Just because the Redskins are throwing money around left and right doesn't mean Denver should, In fact the whole AFC West is pretty quiet so there is no need to panic and give a mediocre player like Andre Carter $30 million!!

[Crushaholic]

Meshaw has actually behaved pretty well the last couple of seasons, from what I understand.

That's what I thought. I haven't heard much flava clown material coming out of his mouth recently. He might have actually grown up...unlike Mr. Owens...

[fontaine]

At this stage in the game, the obvious difference makers are gone or are close to signing for big money (TO, Abraham).

So Denver has to be clever with it's money, just like last year.

Here's my list of who Denver should look at signing (keep in mind, I'm not even looking at players over 28. There's no upside to these guys)

WRs: Jabar Gaffney, Charles Rogers.
Gaffney: Keep in mind he's been playing with a struggling QB, with no OL, but he's put up decent numbers for secondary WR. Also at 25, his best years are ahead of him.
Rogers: I know, the guy is as sturdy as cracked china, but weren't we saying that about Brown last year? The thing is he could be had for a 3rd/4th round pick since Detroit are ready to dump him. His upside is phenomal and if he stays healthy (which he did at the end of last season), he could be a franchise WR for a decade. In this weak WR class, no prospect comes close to him in talent/potential. He would be my first choice target FA.

DE: Aaron Kampman: The guy has improved every year. Is rock solid against the run and his sack numbers have improved every year even though he's playing alongside trash in GB.
Anthony Weaver: A DT/DE hybrid that has enough speed to develop into a nice penetrating DT. Would be great depth at worst.

RB: Ricky Williams: Yes I know, the guy is higher than a kite most days but there was no denying that he looked better and better as the season wore on playing behind a shameful OL. In our Offense he could be a difference maker that we haven't had for a while. Catches the ball, blocks and does all the little things well. If his appeal his upheld then I wouldn't mind sending a 4th round pick his way.

S: Will Demps: Yes, we could draft a Safety and we should. But this guy is an immediate upgrade over what we had and safeties get the lowest SB and salaries. He's solid in run defense and has good range.
Tank Williams: Was one of the best young safeties in the game a few years ago. Was injured recently and playing alongside a green secondary made him look bad. But slot him in at SS, and for the next 4/5 years you don't have to give that position another thought. Hits like a LB, has excellent range and speed.

The best thing is, all of these guys are under 26 (apart from Ricky) and won't cost an arm and a leg to sign. They've got huge upside, have all been productive starters and in the right system pay huge dividends.

[Northman]

Leon

[elsid13]

Andre Rison.


Can never get enough Bad Moon Rison.

[meangene]

Moulds.

[meangene]

Give Kevin Curtis a better offer sheet than St. Louis is offering... there's a sleeper IMO

I think so too. What is St. Louis offering?

[elsid13]

At this stage in the game, the obvious difference makers are gone or are close to signing for big money (TO, Abraham).

So Denver has to be clever with it's money, just like last year.

Here's my list of who Denver should look at signing (keep in mind, I'm not even looking at players over 28. There's no upside to these guys)

WRs: Jabar Gaffney, Charles Rogers.
Gaffney: Keep in mind he's been playing with a struggling QB, with no OL, but he's put up decent numbers for secondary WR. Also at 25, his best years are ahead of him.
Rogers: I know, the guy is as sturdy as cracked china, but weren't we saying that about Brown last year? The thing is he could be had for a 3rd/4th round pick since Detroit are ready to dump him. His upside is phenomal and if he stays healthy (which he did at the end of last season), he could be a franchise WR for a decade. In this weak WR class, no prospect comes close to him in talent/potential. He would be my first choice target FA.

DE: Aaron Kampman: The guy has improved every year. Is rock solid against the run and his sack numbers have improved every year even though he's playing alongside trash in GB.
Anthony Weaver: A DT/DE hybrid that has enough speed to develop into a nice penetrating DT. Would be great depth at worst.

RB: Ricky Williams: Yes I know, the guy is higher than a kite most days but there was no denying that he looked better and better as the season wore on playing behind a shameful OL. In our Offense he could be a difference maker that we haven't had for a while. Catches the ball, blocks and does all the little things well. If his appeal his upheld then I wouldn't mind sending a 4th round pick his way.

S: Will Demps: Yes, we could draft a Safety and we should. But this guy is an immediate upgrade over what we had and safeties get the lowest SB and salaries. He's solid in run defense and has good range.
Tank Williams: Was one of the best young safeties in the game a few years ago. Was injured recently and playing alongside a green secondary made him look bad. But slot him in at SS, and for the next 4/5 years you don't have to give that position another thought. Hits like a LB, has excellent range and speed.

The best thing is, all of these guys are under 26 (apart from Ricky) and won't cost an arm and a leg to sign. They've got huge upside, have all been productive starters and in the right system pay huge dividends.

I really like both Rodgers and Tank Williams. Both have shown great potential. And Rodgers for a 4th would be steal

[meangene]

At this stage in the game, the obvious difference makers are gone or are close to signing for big money (TO, Abraham).

So Denver has to be clever with it's money, just like last year.

Here's my list of who Denver should look at signing (keep in mind, I'm not even looking at players over 28. There's no upside to these guys)

WRs: Jabar Gaffney, Charles Rogers.
Gaffney: Keep in mind he's been playing with a struggling QB, with no OL, but he's put up decent numbers for secondary WR. Also at 25, his best years are ahead of him.
Rogers: I know, the guy is as sturdy as cracked china, but weren't we saying that about Brown last year? The thing is he could be had for a 3rd/4th round pick since Detroit are ready to dump him. His upside is phenomal and if he stays healthy (which he did at the end of last season), he could be a franchise WR for a decade. In this weak WR class, no prospect comes close to him in talent/potential. He would be my first choice target FA.

DE: Aaron Kampman: The guy has improved every year. Is rock solid against the run and his sack numbers have improved every year even though he's playing alongside trash in GB.
Anthony Weaver: A DT/DE hybrid that has enough speed to develop into a nice penetrating DT. Would be great depth at worst.

RB: Ricky Williams: Yes I know, the guy is higher than a kite most days but there was no denying that he looked better and better as the season wore on playing behind a shameful OL. In our Offense he could be a difference maker that we haven't had for a while. Catches the ball, blocks and does all the little things well. If his appeal his upheld then I wouldn't mind sending a 4th round pick his way.

S: Will Demps: Yes, we could draft a Safety and we should. But this guy is an immediate upgrade over what we had and safeties get the lowest SB and salaries. He's solid in run defense and has good range.
Tank Williams: Was one of the best young safeties in the game a few years ago. Was injured recently and playing alongside a green secondary made him look bad. But slot him in at SS, and for the next 4/5 years you don't have to give that position another thought. Hits like a LB, has excellent range and speed.

The best thing is, all of these guys are under 26 (apart from Ricky) and won't cost an arm and a leg to sign. They've got huge upside, have all been productive starters and in the right system pay huge dividends.

Haven't Kampman and Weaver signed? What about Rocky Bernard?

[fontaine]

Haven't Kampman and Weaver signed? What about Rocky Bernard?


Sorry. I didn't know both Kampman and Weaver signed.

I'm not a fan of bringing in Bernard because multiple teams are courting him and even though he is a very good talent, he's going to cost around 10-12 million to sign. I was looking at mostly under the radar guys that have high upside and low cost.

I guess we'll have to go with the draft for DT/DE. That's not such a bad thing now is it?
;D

[meangene]

Sorry. I didn't know both Kampman and Weaver signed.

I'm not a fan of bringing in Bernard because multiple teams are courting him and even though he is a very good talent, he's going to cost around 10-12 million to sign. I was looking at mostly under the radar guys that have high upside and low cost.

I guess we'll have to go with the draft for DT/DE. That's not such a bad thing now is it?
;D

Nope. Good quality on the DL, TE and RB. I'm concerned about WR though. I think we need to address that in FA but the options are dwindling. Yeah, that's a little steep for Bernard - I agree.

[fontaine]

I really like both Rodgers and Tank Williams. Both have shown great potential. And Rodgers for a 4th would be steal


We have what 9 picks in the draft not including the one or two comp picks we're going to get?

Now, our team is pretty well rounded off so there's no way 9/10 picks are going to make the final roster. That's just too many new, young players.

So instead of wasting those 2nd day picks I would be happy to use them as trade ammo! I could be wrong, but Detroit are pretty sure Rogers isn't in there plans since they signed Corey Bradford recently. Why not take a shot at greatness from a top five pick who hasn't been healthy enough either way to prove whether he's a bust or not? We wouldn't be signing him to a new deal and he would be dirt cheap under the cap!

The thing about Tank Williams is that he's a solid player and will be relatively cheap to sign. That way we can use our Draft to look at OL/DL in the first day and it would give us more flexibility draft day.

[extralife]

Tank Williams is a free agent? That'd be a great pickup. You can NEVER go wrong with a game named "Tank."

I'd also take Chuck. He might never develop due to injuries, but I'd look at sending a pick for him as the same thing as drafting him. A fourth round pick on a injured guy with a world of upside? Those are the kinds of guys you gamble on at that point in the draft anyway. Might as well do it.

[meangene]

We have what 9 picks in the draft not including the one or two comp picks we're going to get?

Now, our team is pretty well rounded off so there's no way 9/10 picks are going to make the final roster. That's just too many new, young players.

So instead of wasting those 2nd day picks I would be happy to use them as trade ammo! I could be wrong, but Detroit are pretty sure Rogers isn't in there plans since they signed Corey Bradford recently. Why not take a shot at greatness from a top five pick who hasn't been healthy enough either way to prove whether he's a bust or not? We wouldn't be signing him to a new deal and he would be dirt cheap under the cap!

At this stage we may have to go with a shotgun approach at WR in free agency. Bring in a number of fairly cheap guys with potential and hope we hit. Rogers is worth a flier IMO.

[fontaine]

At this stage we may have to go with a shotgun approach at WR in free agency. Bring in a number of fairly cheap guys with potential and hope we hit. Rogers is worth a flier IMO.

I think another guy to look at is Ronald Curry who looked to be an impressive number two WR a few years ago until injuries hit him. I think his cap charge is around 8-9million and the raiders might let him loose. But the guy would have to prove he's over his achilles problems.

Also Peter Warrick would be available for cheap and he's been a 70 catch guy with Kitna so the talent is there.

The coaching staff seem to believe in Terrell http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/broncos/archives/2006/03/a_rush_to_break.html#comments
which is good but I hope it doesn't stop them from pursuing other WRs in FA. I'm not to keen on using a draft pick on WR since we have other needs and I'm just not seeing value this year at WR.

[~Crash~]

Javon Walker. Ive warmed up to the idea.

I love the idea trade lelei for him staght up .

[meangene]

I think another guy to look at is Ronald Curry who looked to be an impressive number two WR a few years ago until injuries hit him. I think his cap charge is around 8-9million and the raiders might let him loose. But the guy would have to prove he's over his achilles problems.

The coaching staff seem to believe in Terrell which is good but I hope it doesn't stop them from pursuing other WRs in FA. I'm not to keen on using a draft pick on WR since we have other needs and I'm just not seeing value this year at WR.

I forgot about him. He was really coming on before the achilees injury. Don't know how I forgot since he played high school ball right down the street from me. Good idea!

[fontaine]

Will Demps just signed with the Giants.

$3million Signing Bonus and $12 million (which he won't see) for 5 years.

Like I said. Starting safeties are available for peanuts and Lynch isn't getting any younger.

[broncohaven]

I don't see what Keyshawn brings to our offense.

[broncofan]

I don't see what Keyshawn brings to our offense.

Nor do I. I don't get upset with Shanny's signings and personel moves; however, if Keyshawn is brought in I will probably lose my mind...in a bad way. To even entertain this idea is ludacrous to me. I'll take TO; but only if he dumps Rosenhaus, accepts a reasonable contract offer, and becomes a model citizen in the Denver community. So to answer your question...it's still Griese's fault.

[freak6]

I wonder if the vets that restructured are shaking thier heads wondering WTF?

[listopencil]

I don't see what Keyshawn brings to our offense.


A possession receiver besides Rod Smith.

[fontaine]

A possession receiver besides Rod Smith.

Yes, that would help.

But I hope that doesn't mean we make a move on an aging WR who's got no upside and a poor disposition.

I still say that we've got to invest in young talent. That's how we got Rod Smith, and Eddie Mac. How many of these tired old veterans we've brought in over the years have made any difference at WR?

Ok, so we can't afford a Givens, etc but I would rather bring in a young WR like Gaffney or Rogers and give them a chance to improve in our offense.

[pootz22]

Dont we have David Terrell on the roster still? Do we need another WR? I can see wanting TO or Moulds because of thier impact on the field but to go and just get another WR when we have depth..... We need saftey and DL help, maybe OL depth.

[maven]

Will the Griese option ever go away?

[fontaine]

Will the Griese option ever go away?

I hope the Ravens sign Griese. Just so he could be reunited with Trevor Pryce's fist.