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RhymesayersDU
06-04-2006, 09:27 PM
Go AJ, that girl is hot.
I'm fully shocked that somebody didn't die tonight. I was expecting a war for the final 8.
Kinda lame... Big Love was good though. And bring on Entourage/Deadwood.
Pezman
06-05-2006, 12:37 AM
Go AJ, that girl is hot.
I'm fully shocked that somebody didn't die tonight. I was expecting a war for the final 8.
Kinda lame... Big Love was good though. And bring on Entourage/Deadwood.
Poop, that is what we got instead of a good season finale. A big steaming pile of gangster laden turds that may have once looked like a good mafia TV show. Where the hell was the drama? Excitement? Was it when Phil threatened to take a ****?
Personally, Big Love was 10x better tonight than the Sopranos. Now, onto Entourage and Deadwood. Then its time to cancel HBO.
By the way, the best moment and line of the night came from Big Love tonight...
Joey: "You can't just keep going around poisoning people who are mean to us!" Ha! I am really digging that show!
-Slap-
06-05-2006, 08:37 AM
I can't say I'm surprised the season finale was disappointing. It seems to me like David Chase's heart just isn't in it anymore. He had always said the show was originally supposed to run a maximum of four seasons. You could see signs of entropy last year and this year the deterioration accelerated. I almost wonder if Chase didn't feel pressured to keep the thing going and even the truckload of money the show is generating wasn't enough to conceal his resentment.
It almost seemed like there was a sense of contempt for the Joe Sixpack segment of the fan base this year. I have always admired The Sopranos because its a very textured show that works on many levels. There are also a core group of fans who mainly tune into the show to see people get their thumbs broken. Their appreciation for any given episode correlates directly to the level of violence presented. I think this season's meandering and pointless story arcs were a big screw you to those guys.
First, we get the season's dream episode right away in week two, a Sopranos staple that irritates most fans of the show. Although, I admit, I did find the theory that Tony was actually in Purgatory during that episode very compelling.
Second, way, way, way too much face time for AJ. The kid is a lazy screwup, we get it already. I shudder to think what percentage of this season was actually devoted to this incredibly tired and boring story arc. Beyond that, Robert Iler just isn't a very good actor. He would have sabotaged a better story anyway.
Half the season on the Vito the Fag story arc. Which ended pretty much like everybody expected anyway. There are a million gay characters on TV already, they weren't exactly pushing the envelope here.
Carmela's pointless Paris travelogue was the point where I seriously began to sense a bit of contempt from the writers towards the Joe Sixpack crowd. There's so much stupid knee jerk animosity towards France, I could almost see them chuckling at the negative reaction this would draw from some quarters. My big complaint is that it did nothing to advance the storyline whatsoever. Just another meaningless subplot.
The thing I've always admired about this show is how much story is usually jammed into each episode. There was none of that this year. The storylines were either skimpy or superfluous. Some of it made no sense at all. Why would Tony and Phil Leotardo attend a sitdown mediated by Little Carmine? Nobody respects him and the way he screwed the whole thing up at the end was utterly predictable.
I'm still hopeful next season will be better. Deadwood, also on life support, and Ali G are the only other things on HBO worth my time.
Rulon Velvet Jones
06-05-2006, 08:52 AM
Tourgasm starts 6/11. Dane Cook makes me pee a little.
-Slap-
06-05-2006, 01:53 PM
Anybody else notice, for the underboss of a Five Familes New York crime family, Phil Leotardo lives in a ****ty little house with imitation wood paneling on the wall?
Clockwork Orange
06-05-2006, 01:57 PM
Anybody else notice, for the underboss of a Five Familes New York crime family, Phil Leotardo lives in a ****ty little house with imitation wood paneling on the wall?
If we're all willing to suspend our disbelief enough to buy that a gal that hot, who happens to be 10 years older than him, would bang a snot nosed little jerkoff like AJ, Phil's house is downright believable.
KipCorrington25
06-05-2006, 02:01 PM
Thinking that Anthony Jr. working construction would get that piece of ass is more unbelieveable than Star Wars. She's like a foot taller than him. Speaking of which, I wonder if they regret the casting of Robert Iller all those years ago. Tony is like 6'2" 300 and his kid is like 5'4" 98. How much better would the show be if the kid was a big bad ass that was starting to work his way into the wiseguy lifestyle…
Old Dude
06-05-2006, 02:17 PM
Well, there were a few points that I liked.
Christopher continues to degenerate, banging the realtor on a regular basis, while his wife is pregnant and getting hooked on the bad stuff again.
Phil's man bumping bellies with Tony outside the hospital room. (A precursor)
Carmella getting her Spec House back on track. (I'm not sure if she added up 2 and 2 or is just nearsighted and witless.)
The disposal of Fat Dom's head.
The Happy Christmas scene at the end - - filled with sociopaths and murderers.
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I agree though, that AJ was a drag on the whole season. The Vito subplot was dragged out way too long. And I have no idea what was going on with Carmella's Paris junket. If they wanted her to have a "vision" they could have made it happen anywhere else in a fraction of the time.
KipCorrington25
06-05-2006, 02:21 PM
And I have no idea what was going on with Carmella's Paris junket. If they wanted her to have a "vision" they could have made it happen anywhere else in a fraction of the time.
Well is was shot on location, maybe David Chase and his posse needed a vacation on HBO's tab.
elsid13
06-05-2006, 02:46 PM
Well I think we can see the writing on the wall for next year:
Christopher ODs and dies
AJ gets his ass beat by the ex-boyfriend, and Tony's crew takes revenge
Phil decide life to short and also comes out of the closet
Tony gets busted and turn a deal with the FBI on the Arabs in his club.
Carmella's dream house burns to the ground when the Phil's boys go after Tony.
heydensmom
06-05-2006, 03:11 PM
I will not watch the next "season" I'm officially bored with Sapranos!
Billy Clyde Puckett
06-05-2006, 03:27 PM
I will not watch the next "season" I'm officially bored with Sapranos!
Sure you will. What else are you going to do? Watch The Simple Life or Survivor - Watts?
heydensmom
06-05-2006, 03:32 PM
LOL rightly so, it's alot more entertaining. I wanna see some killing!
elsid13
06-05-2006, 03:35 PM
LOL rightly so, it's alot more entertaining. I wanna see some killing!
Blood thirsty savage ;D
heydensmom
06-05-2006, 04:20 PM
Blood thirsty savage ;D
LMAO it's no fun to just watch the drama.... I so let down when that building exploded that that guy didn't die.
Billy Clyde Puckett
06-05-2006, 04:24 PM
LMAO it's no fun to just watch the drama.... I so let down when that building exploded that that guy didn't die.
Military, huh. Demolition expert? ;D
heydensmom
06-05-2006, 04:28 PM
Military, huh. Demolition expert? ;D
LOL na....just like gangsta getting whacked! :spit: Come one now I live on Bakca locka Ave, in Durka Durka. LOL
Sodak
06-05-2006, 04:51 PM
After Deadwood, and The Soprano's there's Big Love, which is okay. I actually feel sympathetic with the polygamists even though those weirdos have a "compound" within 50 miles of my home. They keep it interesting with Roman as the antagonist. Beyond that, yawn...
I think Rome has a lot of potenital, and plenty of room for complex storylines ala Deadwood.
I'm waiting for any word on Carnivale, which I liked, but the plot moved at an agonizing pace. I think this show may be a bit one dimensional. There's not much interest, or many places to go once the antagonist has been removed from the storyline. Unlike the Soprano's, who always has a new boss waiting to move up.
Entourage? Good grief. If I wanted to watch a bunch of "dudes" and their escapades chasing skirt, I'd watch MTV's Real Life. This show flat out sucks. Not much there for imporvement. IMHO.
HBO is losing some of it's best. But, not all is lost, there's always Inside the NFL.
Garcia Bronco
06-05-2006, 04:52 PM
Carnivale was axed...thank goodness DeadWood will be gone soon. They need to get back to making people laugh.
Sodak
06-05-2006, 04:59 PM
Hmmm. I don't remember HBO having any funny shows.
Something like the Young Ones would be nice.
BroncoBuff
06-13-2006, 01:37 AM
I can't say I'm surprised the season finale was disappointing. It seems to me like David Chase's heart just isn't in it anymore. He had always said the show was originally supposed to run a maximum of four seasons. You could see signs of entropy last year and this year the deterioration accelerated. I almost wonder if Chase didn't feel pressured to keep the thing going and even the truckload of money the show is generating wasn't enough to conceal his resentment.
It almost seemed like there was a sense of contempt for the Joe Sixpack segment of the fan base this year. I have always admired The Sopranos because its a very textured show that works on many levels. There are also a core group of fans who mainly tune into the show to see people get their thumbs broken. Their appreciation for any given episode correlates directly to the level of violence presented. I think this season's meandering and pointless story arcs were a big screw you to those guys.
First, we get the season's dream episode right away in week two, a Sopranos staple that irritates most fans of the show. Although, I admit, I did find the theory that Tony was actually in Purgatory during that episode very compelling.
Second, way, way, way too much face time for AJ. The kid is a lazy screwup, we get it already. I shudder to think what percentage of this season was actually devoted to this incredibly tired and boring story arc. Beyond that, Robert Iler just isn't a very good actor. He would have sabotaged a better story anyway.
Half the season on the Vito the Fag story arc. Which ended pretty much like everybody expected anyway. There are a million gay characters on TV already, they weren't exactly pushing the envelope here.
Carmela's pointless Paris travelogue was the point where I seriously began to sense a bit of contempt from the writers towards the Joe Sixpack crowd. There's so much stupid knee jerk animosity towards France, I could almost see them chuckling at the negative reaction this would draw from some quarters. My big complaint is that it did nothing to advance the storyline whatsoever. Just another meaningless subplot.
The thing I've always admired about this show is how much story is usually jammed into each episode. There was none of that this year. The storylines were either skimpy or superfluous. Some of it made no sense at all. Why would Tony and Phil Leotardo attend a sitdown mediated by Little Carmine? Nobody respects him and the way he screwed the whole thing up at the end was utterly predictable.
I'm still hopeful next season will be better. Deadwood, also on life support, and Ali G are the only other things on HBO worth my time.
BRAVO!
Every word.
Here was my take: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1124229&postcount=237
BroncoBuff
06-13-2006, 01:40 AM
BRAVO!
Every word.
Here was my take: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1124229&postcount=237
Unlike the WONDERFUL season finale of LOST: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1132836&postcount=2
BroncoBuff
06-13-2006, 01:42 AM
BTW - the first episode of Entourage REALLY SVCKED!!
They're all too full of themselves now ... and Ari slumming it on his own is a bad twist. I much preferred the "big-shot" Ari.
SPORTSWRITER
06-13-2006, 02:36 AM
I was a huge Sopranos fan, but season 6 SUCKED BIG TIME!! Wife got me hooked on Big Love, and I have to admit it was MUCH better than The Sopranos!! Deadwood's season premiere was ok, and I have liked the series thus far. I hope it gets better though, or HBO comes up with some other good ones, or it's gonna be a long summer! HURRY FOOTBALL SEASON!!
KipCorrington25
06-13-2006, 08:55 AM
Well I think we can see the writing on the wall for next year:
Christopher ODs and dies
AJ gets his ass beat by the ex-boyfriend, and Tony's crew takes revenge
Phil decide life to short and also comes out of the closet
Tony gets busted and turn a deal with the FBI on the Arabs in his club.
Carmella's dream house burns to the ground when the Phil's boys go after Tony.
Yeah right, like something would actually happen or get resolved? My thinking is they just posture and imply something will happen but when push comes to shove they won't deliver and the show will bow out without a whimper.
freak6
06-13-2006, 09:37 AM
I tried to watch Deadwood, it was like they were speaking another language, who writes that Bs, I dont remember the first seasons dialogue sounding like a bunch of dumb americans trying to read Shakespeare??
Good point on Sopranos, I was like, WTF kind of crib is that for an acting boss, Phil's house was built in 1920?
I think that girl that is fkn Anthony knows he is Mafia, and is a golddigger, that is why she is with him.
And Carmine fkn up the sitdown, Tony's response..."Now why the fk would you bring that up?" as if Tony was so pissed, yet part of him thinks Carmine may have intentionally done it. When I watched it the second time, it is so BLATANTLY stupid that it makes me think Carmine did do it on purpose, for what cause I don't know, maybe the writing really is that lame.
-Slap-
06-13-2006, 09:46 AM
I tried to watch Deadwood, it was like they were speaking another language, who writes that Bs, I dont remember the first seasons dialogue sounding like a bunch of dumb americans trying to read Shakespeare??
Good point on Sopranos, I was like, WTF kind of crib is that for an acting boss, Phil's house was built in 1920?
I think that girl that is fkn Anthony knows he is Mafia, and is a golddigger, that is why she is with him.
And Carmine fkn up the sitdown, Tony's response..."Now why the fk would you bring that up?" as if Tony was so pissed, yet part of him thinks Carmine may have intentionally done it. When I watched it the second time, it is so BLATANTLY stupid that it makes me think Carmine did do it on purpose, for what cause I don't know, maybe the writing really is that lame.
No. Little Carmine is just that stupid. It was a very clumsy way of reinforcing that fact, though.
Phil Leotardo might have a run down house, but the old Guinea might be damn near indestructable. Since getting paroled from prison at the beginning of season five, Phil was shot at by Tony Blundetto, forced to smash head on into the back of a truck by Tony Soprano, nearly blown up with his little scafuza in retaliation for Vito's murder and finally, he survives a heart attack.
-Slap-
06-13-2006, 09:48 AM
The show I don't get is Entourage. There aren't enough vapid idiot celebrities for people to worship without creating fictitious ones? You would have to pay me 500 bucks to sit through an entire episode.
freak6
06-13-2006, 09:50 AM
No. Little Carmine is just that stupid. It was a very clumsy way of reinforcing that fact, though.
Bad writing and acting man, it was such a blatantly retarded plot mover.
How about "You have the same birthday as Jesse Ventura"
"Whose that"
"A famouse politician" lmfao
"How'd you know that"
"I looked it up, remember, I did your 1040" or whatever, somebody put a fkn bullet in AJs head already.
Or how about this classic Christopher line, my favorite from any season I think.
"Naa, let's watch a DVD, I got the 50 cent movie the back of my car, they were giving it away at the car wash"
bwaa ha a haaa haaaaaa
freak6
06-13-2006, 09:52 AM
The show I don't get is Entourage. There aren't enough vapid idiot celebrities for people to worship without creating fictitious ones? You would have to pay me 500 bucks to sit through an entire episode.
Call me guilty then, because Ari cracks me up making fun of Turtle.
"Turtle, why dont you smoke some weed, smoke some more weed Turtle huh"
And James Woods was on the show begging for tickets to the Premiere of Aquaman, show is so stupid.
Bronco Yoda
06-13-2006, 11:31 PM
I guess the shows afraid to whack a priest or offend the teachers union otherwise they'd bring back some of Carmela's love flings before the end.
Here the Bosses wife is flirting with one of his own (Furio) teasing a priest (father Phil) and sleeping with that school teacher and nothing was ever made of it.
At the very least it would have been good to see Tony have to reconcile this all in therapy. Good ol father Phil and his wife in the corner pocket with the 8 ball.
They should have killed Tony off by now and had Carmella the tough hard handed blood thirsty boss by circumstance with father Phil by her side and Furio as her love sick and homicidal body guard. The Teacher gets wacked.
phisig150
06-13-2006, 11:45 PM
I want a higher bodycount. **** this Freud ****.
Bronco Yoda
06-13-2006, 11:51 PM
They wont do it. You watch... the 'The Movie' sequel prospects will curb the carnage count.
Old Dude
07-08-2006, 06:28 AM
The show I don't get is Entourage. There aren't enough vapid idiot celebrities for people to worship without creating fictitious ones? You would have to pay me 500 bucks to sit through an entire episode.
Nail, meet hammer head.