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SpringStein
03-11-2006, 05:35 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3593143

Meanwhile, Dayne was secured as well, signing a three-year deal. Dayne will get a chance to compete for the starting tailback job.

Rocket 7
03-11-2006, 05:36 PM
alright

RMT
03-11-2006, 05:37 PM
I'll withhold judgment until I see the parameters of the contract. I'm anxious to see which RB the Broncos draft this year.

scorpio
03-11-2006, 05:38 PM
muah.


muahahahahahaha.



MAUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!


yes, yes, it's all falling into place...

http://www.ohiocitizen.org/campaigns/electric/2004/excellent.jpg

sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 05:38 PM
*peers into my crystal ball, devining who the Broncos will draft, and the answer will be..."**** if I know"

:Broncos:

Broncobuddy7
03-11-2006, 05:40 PM
I hope we draft a WR early.

HEAV
03-11-2006, 05:40 PM
*peers into my crystal ball, devining who the Broncos will draft, and the answer will be..."**** if I know"

:Broncos:


WR with the first pick

If not traded the 2nd will be best available DE,RB

Clockwork Orange
03-11-2006, 05:41 PM
Dayne will get a chance to compete for the starting tailback job.

So much for the thought of the Broncos going after a big time UFA RB.

Rocket 7
03-11-2006, 05:42 PM
*peers into my crystal ball, devining who the Broncos will draft, and the answer will be..."**** if I know"

:Broncos:
If that crystal ball somehow deciphers powerball numbers in the future. Remember who your friends are :thumbsup:

bilrob
03-11-2006, 05:43 PM
I guess the only one left to sign is Burns??

HEAV
03-11-2006, 05:43 PM
So much for the thought of the Broncos going after a big time UFA RB.


Never say never Clock. Or just get ready for T.O. 8')

BroncoBuff
03-11-2006, 05:44 PM
STRIKE UP THE BAND!

On a sad note, though, the Marine might be history for good now ....

Broncobuddy7
03-11-2006, 05:44 PM
We're still down 2 starters and a backup TE from last year.

Paladin
03-11-2006, 05:44 PM
Is it possible that Bobby Turner has his eye on someone? Maybe a Mike Bell? Or someone else?

Next up: Burns, Leach, then prolly a flirt with the Jests?

BroncoBuff
03-11-2006, 05:45 PM
WR with the first pick
Chad
Chad
Chad
Chad
Chad!

SoCalBronco
03-11-2006, 05:45 PM
WR with the first pick



So you want us to reach?

scorpio
03-11-2006, 05:45 PM
STRIKE UP THE BAND!

On a sad note, though, the Marine might be history for good now ....


he signed with Philly earlier today

Clockwork Orange
03-11-2006, 05:45 PM
Never say never Clock. Or just get ready for T.O. 8')

That's what I was thinking. Owens and/or Abraham could very well be the Broncos main focus now that they've re-signed the guys they wanted to keep.

BroncoBuff
03-11-2006, 05:46 PM
he signed with Philly earlier today
Whoa! That hurts.

RMT
03-11-2006, 05:48 PM
Whoa! That hurts.

... Mike Anderson ... Philly is going to suck - again, this year.

BroncoBuff
03-11-2006, 05:49 PM
We're still down 2 starters and a backup TE from last year.
By my count .... Putzier is the only one left to sign .... then T.O. .... and fianlly, the draft. John Abraham is too damned expensive.

scorpio
03-11-2006, 05:52 PM
By my count .... Putzier is the only one left to sign .... then T.O. .... and fianlly, the draft. John Abraham is too damned expensive.

Paying 2 first round picks is going to be just as expensive. At least Abraham is a known commodity.

RMT
03-11-2006, 05:53 PM
By my count .... Putzier is the only one left to sign .... then T.O. .... and fianlly, the draft. John Abraham is too damned expensive.

I agree that JA is too expensive. I'm not convinced that resigning Putz is the way to go, though. TO in Denver would certainly be nice :)

HEAV
03-11-2006, 06:14 PM
So you want us to reach?

Nah,

But talent will be their for the taking. Maybe play for San.Holmes. Fast little bugger. Reminds me of the X-Factor.

What if Sin. Moss was available SoCal?

CBF1
03-11-2006, 06:14 PM
Mike Leach was signed also, 3 year deal.

eddie mac
03-11-2006, 06:15 PM
he signed with Philly earlier today

Jumping the gun a little.

Eagles | Team might sign M. Anderson later this week - from www.KFFL.com
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:29:02 -0800

Mark Eckel, of the Trenton Times, reports the Philadelphia Eagles might sign free agent RB Mike Anderson (Broncos) later this week. Anderson has interest from several teams and may weigh his offers. The Eagles might take that time to gauge the market for a dependable backup running back.

HEAV
03-11-2006, 06:24 PM
Jumping the gun a little.

Eagles | Team might sign M. Anderson later this week - from www.KFFL.com
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:29:02 -0800

Mark Eckel, of the Trenton Times, reports the Philadelphia Eagles might sign free agent RB Mike Anderson (Broncos) later this week. Anderson has interest from several teams and may weigh his offers. The Eagles might take that time to gauge the market for a dependable backup running back.


He will get some carries there. Never no with Westbrook. Mike may get some starts. He should see some goaline touch's also.

RMT
03-11-2006, 06:26 PM
Paying 2 first round picks is going to be just as expensive. At least Abraham is a known commodity.

You are correct ... a known "injury-prone" commodity.

Popps
03-11-2006, 06:33 PM
You are correct ... a known "injury-prone" commodity.

Hey played all 16 games last year. He's played complete seasons in 3 out of 5 after his rookie year.

The guy's healthy, and probably more effective in 8 games than both of our DEs combined.... at least against the pass.

That said, he had more tackles than anyone on our line.

So much for him not being able to play the run.

Casper Bronco
03-11-2006, 06:34 PM
Never say never Clock. Or just get ready for T.O. 8')

T.O. is a running back Jay Z?!?!

RMT
03-11-2006, 06:45 PM
Hey played all 16 games last year. He's played complete seasons in 3 out of 5 after his rookie year.

The guy's healthy, and probably more effective in 8 games than both of our DEs combined.... at least against the pass.

That said, he had more tackles than anyone on our line.

So much for him not being able to play the run.

The Broncos' defense is designed to have the LBs make more of the plays. The DL is expected to occupy OL for the LBs. The DL's role in Denver is different than the New York Jets' defensive philosophy.

Ray Finkle
03-11-2006, 06:47 PM
Hey Heav,
Do you see a chance of the Broncos signing Givens instead of TO?

BroncoBuff
03-11-2006, 06:51 PM
You are correct ... a known "injury-prone" commodity.
I thought that until I looked on the Jets' site ... he's actually not injury-prone really ... and he DOES sack the QB. But he's only 256 pounds, and they list his as a LB!!!!: http://www.newyorkjets.com/roster/index.php?practice_squad=no&player_id=4#4

WABronco
03-11-2006, 07:01 PM
So much for the thought of the Broncos going after a big time UFA RB.

I think it'll end up all right. We got Dayne, Bell, Cobbs, and a rook. I'm actually excited to see what Dayne can do with a full time job...

sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 07:04 PM
I think it'll end up all right. We got Dayne, Bell, Cobbs, and a rook. I'm actually excited to see what Dayne can do with a full time job...

On NFL network, the game of the week was SD vs Den, week 2. Dayne looked scary, like he was looking for dudes to hit. It was great.

:Broncos:

DBroncos4life
03-11-2006, 07:08 PM
Cobbs is a guy I have some hope for but, Im not going to say well we don't need a back because he have him. Like most Denver RBs he like all of them if given a chance would do ok.

HEAV
03-11-2006, 07:18 PM
Hey Heav,
Do you see a chance of the Broncos signing Givens instead of TO?


I'm not sure. I heard he backed out of the deal with the Browns. He's intitled to a change of heart. But he may have bigger dollars in mind.

He may want to be a number one guy and paid that way. Not sure if in Denver he would be that. T.O. is a game changer. Givens is a good wideout.

Did Brady and the Patriots O make Givens what he was? Or was it Givens? Remember David Patten?

That's the same question I had about R. Wayne. But the Colts screwed that. I wanted to see if he was for real.

I still feel that Denver will make a push for either Jamal Lewis or T.O. Which every position they take care of in FA, they will use the draft to fill the need at the other.

I'm hearing Mike wants a game changer. Now is Jamal an game changer? He's can be a dangerous 30 plus carry back. T.O. can create so many formations and cuase a defensive back to play out of position. Not to mention on one 5 yard pass T.O. can take it 60,70 yards for a score.

At the combine Denver scouts watch the WR's intently.

Ratboy
03-11-2006, 07:23 PM
I honestly didn't want Dayne in Denver.

HEAV
03-11-2006, 07:30 PM
I thought that until I looked on the Jets' site ... he's actually not injury-prone really ... and he DOES sack the QB. But he's only 256 pounds, and they list his as a LB!!!!: http://www.newyorkjets.com/roster/index.php?practice_squad=no&player_id=4#4


His game is speed. He's a rocket at DE. I have seen some power from him. He's pushed a few OT around. But is speed and quickness is waht Denver needs at DE.

As far as his pounds. He Jason Taylor is only 255ish. He can get to the QB and make some plays.

Rocket 7
03-11-2006, 07:35 PM
I honestly didn't want Dayne in Denver.
Explain

HEAV
03-11-2006, 07:37 PM
I honestly didn't want Dayne in Denver.


Ya I'm not sold on him either. He's a younger (slightly) verson of M. Anderson. IMO

So times great college backs are average NFL backs. In saying that some average college backs turn into great NFL backs.

I'd like to see him drop 10 pounds and improve his speed to the outsides.

orange crusher
03-11-2006, 07:43 PM
I wouldn't mind getting Maroney but I think we have more pressing needs in the first round and he'll probably be gone anyway.

baja
03-11-2006, 07:44 PM
Finally breaking news Warren signed and Dayne signed and err did mention Warren signed..... Dammit Burger Bill get off your Pizza lovin ass and get the details, details man.

I'm gonna start calling him Black out Bill because he never has any real information.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2006, 07:46 PM
Why not Bryant? I don't understand why he isn't getting any props. Hes young, he played very well last year, and there is no reason to think he can't push Terrell for the number three WR.

2KBack
03-11-2006, 07:47 PM
Ya I'm not sold on him either. He's a younger (slightly) verson of M. Anderson. IMO

So times great college backs are average NFL backs. In saying that some average college backs turn into great NFL backs.

I'd like to see him drop 10 pounds and improve his speed to the outsides.


A younger MA is certainly not a bad thing. I think people would remember Anderson differently if his career here wasn't jerked around so much. He had one of the best Rookie seasons ever, then split time sporatically with TD, next he lost out to Portis after an injury, then was switched to fullback just to get him on the field, then had that groin injury keeping him from starting a year sooner.

Ratboy
03-11-2006, 07:48 PM
Explain

There is a reason Dayne was 3rd on the depth chart.

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/01/95/57/image_1857951.jpg

Dayne hasn't shown me anything enough to be claimed a starter. Hopefully Shanahan relizes what Bell has been doing and gives him the starting job. If i was Bell and i wasnt starting, i'd request a trade for a team who wants me and who wants me on the field.

Bell was the backup and still almost beat out Anderson in yards, Thats gotta tell you something.

Ray Finkle
03-11-2006, 07:48 PM
I'm not sure. I heard he backed out of the deal with the Browns. He's intitled to a change of heart. But he may have bigger dollars in mind.

He may want to be a number one guy and paid that way. Not sure if in Denver he would be that. T.O. is a game changer. Givens is a good wideout.

Did Brady and the Patriots O make Givens what he was? Or was it Givens? Remember David Patten?

That's the same question I had about R. Wayne. But the Colts screwed that. I wanted to see if he was for real.

I still feel that Denver will make a push for either Jamal Lewis or T.O. Which every position they take care of in FA, they will use the draft to fill the need at the other.

I'm hearing Mike wants a game changer. Now is Jamal an game changer? He's can be a dangerous 30 plus carry back. T.O. can create so many formations and cuase a defensive back to play out of position. Not to mention on one 5 yard pass T.O. can take it 60,70 yards for a score.

At the combine Denver scouts watch the WR's intently.


Thanks HEAV

2KBack
03-11-2006, 07:50 PM
There is a reason Dayne was 3rd on the depth chart.

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/01/95/57/image_1857951.jpg

Dayne hasn't shown me anything enough to be claimed a starter. Hopefully Shanahan relizes what Bell has been doing and gives him the starting job. If i was Bell and i wasnt starting, i'd request a trade for a team who wants me and who wants me on the field.

Bell was the backup and still almost beat out Anderson in yards, Thats gotta tell you something.


Just to be sure. You say he sucks becasue he was 3rd string, but then claimed that the second string was as good or better than the 1st string. That sounds like conflicting logic to me.

Ratboy
03-11-2006, 07:55 PM
Where did i say he sucked? I said there is a reason he is 3rd on the depth chart, He couldnt beat out Bell or Anderson. I don't see him beating out Bell this year either, I'm curious what Shanahan will do at the postion. I wouldnt mind having LenDale White, I wouldnt give up on Bell yet though.

baja
03-11-2006, 07:59 PM
There is a reason Dayne was 3rd on the depth chart.

http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/01/95/57/image_1857951.jpg

Dayne hasn't shown me anything enough to be claimed a starter. Hopefully Shanahan relizes what Bell has been doing and gives him the starting job. If i was Bell and i wasnt starting, i'd request a trade for a team who wants me and who wants me on the field.

Bell was the backup and still almost beat out Anderson in yards, Thats gotta tell you something. Ya it tells me he broke 4 or 5 big ass runs but he also got stuffed at the LOS abunch too

Rocket 7
03-11-2006, 08:00 PM
Bell was the backup and still almost beat out Anderson in yards, Thats gotta tell you something.
Obvious question. What about pass protection?

Ratboy
03-11-2006, 08:06 PM
Obvious question. What about pass protection?

I just got done watching videos of Bell in pass protection, i don;t know where you come up with that he's poor in pass protection because i didnt see it.

Ray Finkle
03-11-2006, 08:08 PM
I just got done watching videos of Bell in pass protection, i don;t know where you come up with that he's poor in pass protection because i didnt see it.


Did they throw less and shorter routes when Bell was in?

Ratboy
03-11-2006, 08:14 PM
Lelie can't block or catch either, right?

From the short clips i watch, Bell was in on some deep passes.

Play2win
03-11-2006, 08:20 PM
Dayne looks like a guy that you can give him the rock as many times as you want. He's still going to be strong. He has good vision and we can get back to closing out the 4th quarter.

MA couldn't handle the load at the end of the season. He's been a warior for us over the years, but we're building a Superbowl champion here, and there's got to be some level of compition out there...

Rocket 7
03-11-2006, 08:37 PM
I just got done watching videos of Bell in pass protection, i don;t know where you come up with that he's poor in pass protection because i didnt see it.
Bell is easly run over. Taylor from Washington or Burgess from Oakland. Name one good player he bowled over. He doesn't like to hit. This isn't smear the queer. Opponents don't respect his pass protection.

clint7
03-11-2006, 08:37 PM
On NFL network, the game of the week was SD vs Den, week 2. Dayne looked scary, like he was looking for dudes to hit. It was great.

:Broncos:

I re-watched that game too and thought to myself, "You know, maybe this guy really does deserve his shot as the main guy without bringing in a J. Lewis." He did look very good against a very tough defense.

My favorite part of the game was Ian Gold's comments on the bench. He was a riot.

Ray Finkle
03-11-2006, 08:42 PM
Lelie can't block or catch either, right?

From the short clips i watch, Bell was in on some deep passes.


not at all...I was just wondering...

HEAV
03-11-2006, 08:47 PM
I re-watched that game too and thought to myself, "You know, maybe this guy really does deserve his shot as the main guy without bringing in a J. Lewis." He did look very good against a very tough defense.

My favorite part of the game was Ian Gold's comments on the bench. He was a riot.


Ya but that Charger team quit in that game. They were ready to enjoy New Years.

Every thing we have read say's "A chance to start. Denver wants for him to participate in teh off season conditioning program" Now I feel the Broncos have one of the best condition programs out there. I just need to see more games from Dayne.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2006, 08:50 PM
I must be one of the few that doesn't get a kick out of hearing Dayne and starter in the same breath. Im sure he will do fine, but I can't help but think he is a guy we are just settling on. I agree with Rat, he wouldn't beat out Bell if Bell could block.

scorpio
03-11-2006, 08:52 PM
he wouldn't beat out Bell if Bell could block.



and if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle

DBroncos4life
03-11-2006, 08:55 PM
and if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle
Well one of them is a learning problem, ala could be taught to block better. Now Im sure you could teach your aunt to grow nuts but Im not sure how well it would work. My point is if Dayne is going to be the damn starter he should be atleast better then Bell in something besides blocking.

broncohaven
03-11-2006, 08:57 PM
There is a reason Dayne was 3rd on the depth chart.



Dayne hasn't shown me anything enough to be claimed a starter. Hopefully Shanahan relizes what Bell has been doing and gives him the starting job. If i was Bell and i wasnt starting, i'd request a trade for a team who wants me and who wants me on the field.

Bell was the backup and still almost beat out Anderson in yards, Thats gotta tell you something.
The reason being; it was his first year in the system. There is more of a reason Bell isn't the starter given his big play ability, and it's the fact that he's an absolute liability in pass blocking.

Bell doesn't have it to be the starter. He won't stick his head in there and grind out the tough yards, andd he can't block. That may fly in Arizona, but not Denver. I'm thankful our standards for the position are higher than that, and if Bell wants to see the field as a starter he's going to have to step up and show that he's more than a one trick pony.

I would love to see that happen for Bell because I love his potential, but this is his last chance to show he can be a football player.

clint7
03-11-2006, 09:19 PM
Ya but that Charger team quit in that game. They were ready to enjoy New Years.



No, that's not the game we were talking about. It was Week #2, not the last game of the season.

2KBack
03-11-2006, 09:23 PM
Where did i say he sucked? I said there is a reason he is 3rd on the depth chart, He couldnt beat out Bell or Anderson. I don't see him beating out Bell this year either, I'm curious what Shanahan will do at the postion. I wouldnt mind having LenDale White, I wouldnt give up on Bell yet though.

I haven't given up on bell, but as of now he is a lesser clinton portis. Some big plays, but not enough grind to get tough yards. There's only around 50 carries to judge Dayne on, but he has a great grasp of the blocking. I's consider them about even right now actually, Bell is getting the nob because of his natural potential.

HEAV
03-11-2006, 09:30 PM
No, that's not the game we were talking about. It was Week #2, not the last game of the season.


Ohhhhh you mean the pitch out play on 4th.

He had 8 carries. Not really much to guage him on.

Still team needs some depth at RB

clint7
03-11-2006, 09:37 PM
Ohhhhh you mean the pitch out play on 4th.

Yep, that's the game. If they re-air that on NFL Network again, watch it. Gold is hilarious on the sidelines.

Kaylore
03-11-2006, 09:43 PM
Yep, that's the game. If they re-air that on NFL Network again, watch it. Gold is hilarious on the sidelines.
I love watching Gold. He actually watches and roots for his team when the D is off the field. Last season everytime we made a big play on offense, Gold was jumping up and down on the sidelines going nuts.

Rocket 7
03-11-2006, 09:46 PM
I love watching Gold. He actually watches and roots for his team when the D is off the field. Last season everytime we made a big play on offense, Gold was jumping up and down on the sidelines going nuts.
My favorite Bronco cheerleader besides Kelly Troester or Renee Herlocker

clint7
03-11-2006, 09:52 PM
I love watching Gold. He actually watches and roots for his team when the D is off the field. Last season everytime we made a big play on offense, Gold was jumping up and down on the sidelines going nuts.

That is so true. Every time you'd see Lelie catch a deep bomb, in the background there was Gold leaping up and down like a rabbit. After Dayne's Thanksgiving scramble, there's Gold in the background going ape sh!t. Then during those NFL Network recap games with players and mics, Gold is always on the bench, watching the game on the big screen, rooting and cheering like a fan in the stands or at home on the couch.

Ratboy
03-11-2006, 10:54 PM
That is so true. Every time you'd see Lelie catch a deep bomb, in the background there was Gold leaping up and down like a rabbit. After Dayne's Thanksgiving scramble, there's Gold in the background going ape sh!t. Then during those NFL Network recap games with players and mics, Gold is always on the bench, watching the game on the big screen, rooting and cheering like a fan in the stands or at home on the couch.

He has to make that money some how.. :rofl:

Drek
03-11-2006, 11:03 PM
We'll draft a new horse or two in the draft, between Dayne, Bell, Cobbs, and some new blood we'll have plenty of fresh young runners to fight for carries. Gonna be another big rushing season in Denver.

Rausch
03-12-2006, 01:18 AM
****...

watermock
03-12-2006, 02:26 AM
There is still upside to Bell, Dayne and even Cobbs and Sapp, who continues to learn ST and FB after being a run only feature back at CSU. We will be ok but all our backs are flawed one way or another but if you game plan around their specific strengths, we will be fine.

cutthemdown
03-12-2006, 03:01 AM
dont worry about what a guy costs, cap can always be fudged

meangene
03-12-2006, 05:06 AM
Dayne, Bell, rookie, FA will all get their shot to win the job in preseason. Someone will emerge as the feature back this year - no more RBBC. My money is on Dayne! He's finally in the right system and being given a shot at the starting job.

wabbit
03-12-2006, 10:24 AM
Don't forget that RBs coach Bobby Turner very likely had a very strong voice in the decision to keep Dayne, and that's a good thing.

While his judgement seems to have failed him when he campaigned for Maurice Clarett, there can be no question that he can coach up talent at any level of a ability.

I haven't heard anything from the organization about why they think so highly of Dayne...assuming they do, but I have heard that Denver has asked for and received considerable tape/film on draft-eligible RBs AND remain a player in the bidding for both Jamal Lewis & Edgerrin James.

The RB crew is far from settled, but that's just my opinion.

bpc
03-12-2006, 10:29 AM
Nice... our depth is secured at the HB spot. Now we just need a starter. J Lew, please report to Dove Valley...

watermock
03-12-2006, 10:42 AM
Jamal, pick up the blue courtesy phone and put down the crack pipe....I'm not thrilled about this at all...he ran weak last year. I don't trust felons. I could care less if he smokes rock...it's about the team. I've said it before, it's all meat, but meat isn't any good in the freezer, which is where little ricky is headed.

I would rather get a White or Mike Bell rather than a high priced high miler with an inflated ego. We still have some ponies in the stable.