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epicSocialism4tw
03-11-2006, 11:17 AM
6 hurt as driver plows into students
Local, state and federal agencies investigate. A complex is evacuated while the suspect's apartment is searched
A man who drove a Jeep Cherokee Laredo into a lunchtime crowd on the UNC-Chapel Hill campus Friday, striking nine people, may have been protesting Americans' treatment of Muslims.
Six people had been released from UNC Hospitals by Friday evening. None was seriously injured, university officials said. The three others declined to be treated.
According to the Associated Press, suspect Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, 22, a native of Iran, "allegedly made statements that he acted to avenge the American treatment of Muslims," FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko said. "The ongoing investigation will work to confirm this."
Witnesses saw the sport utility vehicle approach The Pit, the student hub outside the Student Union, at 11:53 a.m. The driver accelerated along the edge of the sunken plaza, before speeding away.
UNC-CH police said they would charge Taheri-azar, of 303 Smith Level Road, Apt. D34, Carrboro, with nine counts of attempted first-degree murder and nine counts of assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious injury with intent to kill.
About 30 minutes after the incident, Carrboro police began evacuating the University Commons apartment complex where the 2005 UNC-CH graduate lives with two roommates.
"He made comments and said things regarding where he lives and things he may have that put us in concern for safety," Capt. Joel Booker of the Carrboro Police Department said.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation, the State Bureau of Investigation and other local emergency agencies, including a bomb squad, joined police at the apartment complex at Smith Level and BPW Club roads.
Niralee Shah, a senior at UNC-CH, had just woke up from a nap when a man in a helmet and vest with a large gun banged on her door. When she opened it, Shah said, he grabbed her by the arm and said she had to leave.
Shah quickly grabbed her shoes and coat and joined other residents outside the building.
From about 100 feet away, Shah watched with others as police aimed guns at a third-floor apartment in Building D while they crouched behind a car they used as a barricade.
Students were allowed back into the complex about 8:30 p.m., even as police continued searching Taheri-azar's apartment.
"At this point we do not feel there is any more concern for public safety," Booker said. "No bomb, nothing like that."
Dual-major graduate
Taheri-azar was not part of the UNC-CH Muslim Students Association, and a student who participated in a recent sit-in at The Daily Tar Heel office protesting the newspaper's publishing of a cartoon depicting the prophet Mohammed said Taheri-azar was not part of the protest.
"We absolutely condemn any kind of violence," said freshman Salma Mirza 18. "I hope those were not his motivations.
"Islam is a religion of peace," she added. The majority of Muslims on campus condemn violence, she said.
Gordon Pitz, a psychology professor, taught Taheri-azar in two classes. "I just fell over," he said about hearing the news.
Taheri-azar stood out in Pitz's Decision Theory and Research Methods classes, but nothing would have predicted Friday's incident, the professor said.
"This is a class of about 200 people. Of those, probably about 150 I never get to know. Mohammed I did get to know," Pitz said.
"He was one of those students who was very assertive in asking questions," Pitz explained. "He obviously cared a lot about his performance. Even in the very large class I taught, he was very willing to ask questions and get involved in discussions."
Brad Copeland, 20, a sophomore journalism major, worked with Taheri-azar at Jimmy John's sandwich shop on West Franklin Street. He also took a philosophy class with him.
"He wasn't shy in class -- not shy to speak up," Copeland said. "It was clear that he read the material and understood it and seemed to be pretty smart."
Taheri-azar graduated in December, receiving a bachelor's degree with a dual major in psychology and philosophy.
Until December, he was living in Chapel Hill's Northampton Plaza Apartments at 600 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
A Social Security number was issued to him in 1991. He registered to vote in Orange County in 2004.
In August 2003, Taheri-azar was convicted of unsafe movement after being charged with driving left of center and failing to obey a traffic officer in Orange County, according to police records.
A month later, he was convicted of reckless driving to endanger for speeding and reckless driving, also in Orange County.
His address both times was listed as 3125 English Sparrow Lane in Charlotte. Neighbors there say they knew the family as the Taheris and believe Taheri-azar lived with his mother and younger sister. The family has since moved away.
In July 1999, a Mohamed Dhahran Taheri of the same address was charged with reckless driving to endanger and driving without a license in Mecklenburg County.
'It was so surreal'
On Friday, students changing classes said they paid the silver SUV little notice until the driver revved the engine and sped around the corner of Lenoir Dining Hall.
"People started screaming and jumping out of the way," said Katherine Wallace, 22, of Cary who was sitting at a table in the area. "It was so surreal.
"I remember vividly that a girl just flew off the windshield and rolled off the side of the car," Wallace said. "Then, she just sat up from where she got hit."
The vehicle had an Enterprise Rental Car sticker on the back bumper. Police said a laptop was found in the vehicle. Shortly before 1 p.m., officers had the SUV released from a tow truck and moved bystanders away, citing safety concerns.
Friends identified two of the injured students as freshman Brittany Williams and sophomore Tiffany McDole. Williams was campaigning for the student group Black Student Movement when she was hit. McDole declined to comment Friday.
Sharee Posey, 18, a freshman, was sitting on a ledge next to Lenoir when she saw the SUV speed past her. Kamishia Thomas, also 18, said she felt the vehicle brush her as it passed.
"It all happened really fast," said Kristen Cabe, 19, a sophomore who was standing nearby.
"It had to be deliberate," said Caity Brown-Geist, 22, a senior from Guilford, Conn. "I'm pretty much in shock because it happened so fast. People didn't have time to get out of the way. It didn't seem like it was really happening."
"I'm about to graduate, and I've always felt safe here," Brown-Geist said. "It made me realize you're never really safe. Freak things happen all the time."
The injured students' parents have been contacted, and the university is providing counselors throughout the weekend in the student union building as well as at UNC Hospitals.
Staff writer Meiling Arounnarath can be reached at 932-2004 or meiling.arounnarath@newsobserver.com.
So much for "not profiling" people based on race or religion ... this kind of stuff is a reminder that in some cases, "profiling" can be justified ... notice, I said "some" not "all or most"
RhymesayersDU
03-11-2006, 11:22 AM
Damn terrorists.
12th man
03-11-2006, 11:25 AM
this guy is ****ing nuts.
watermock
03-11-2006, 11:29 AM
Hang the bastard...not only that, he ran down women...****in coward. Where were the men to beat him to a pulp...oh right...he sped away in the name of Allah.
I'm sick and tired of the apologists. And even more sick and tired of idiots claiming that Islam is a religion of peace. Peace to fellow muslims isn't even true.
Noone seems to understand Death to the Infidels?
Popps
03-11-2006, 11:29 AM
Seriously, like every 30 seconds... some Muslim around the globe is enacting violence on someone (usually innocent) to protest something or other.
But, it's not a violent religion... really.
No, really.
It's not.
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 11:30 AM
Read once, that of all the terror groups in the world, half are Muslim-based.
:Broncos:
watermock
03-11-2006, 11:35 AM
Read once, that of all the terror groups in the world, half are Muslim-based.
:Broncos:
That's a very conservative estimate.
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 11:37 AM
That's a very conservative estimate.
I dont want to be accused of racial profiling or stereotyping...:thumbs:
:Broncos:
watermock
03-11-2006, 11:38 AM
I dont want to be accused of racial profiling or stereotyping...:thumbs:
:Broncos:
I'll handle that chore...driving thru a group of girls. Good God. If I could of gotten some keys to a car and a gun I would capped that asshole. The cops should of gunned him down point blank. Now we get to hear him whine in court. Disgusting.
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 11:40 AM
So much for "not profiling" people based on race or religion ... this kind of stuff is a reminder that in some cases, "profiling" can be justified ... notice, I said "some" not "all or most"
Timothy McVeigh wasn't Arab and he is the most infamous domestic terrorist known in the US. What should we do about people like him? Racial profile thin white guys with military hightops?
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 11:42 AM
Timothy McVeigh wasn't Arab and he is the most infamous domestic terrorist known in the US. What should we do about people like him? Racial profile thin white guys with military hightops?
Interesting you select the one example of terrorism not perpetrated by muslims, and say see, whities do it too. It is not incorrect to assume its arabs or muslims who perpetrate terror, because it's them a majority of the time.
:Broncos:
watermock
03-11-2006, 11:50 AM
Timothy McVeigh wasn't Arab and he is the most infamous domestic terrorist known in the US. What should we do about people like him? Racial profile thin white guys with military hightops?
There are alot of clouds surrounding the OK bombing. The only thing he really said was that it was retribution for Waco (a religious group). I'm not convinced whatsoever about that event. They sure got it torn down and got him expidited before he could really tell the truth. But this is totally off subject...your deflectiing reality.
We are discussing this clown running his SUV thru a group of girls and speeding off dimwit.
When roadside bombs go off every few hours, whatever. The OK bombing was messed up but it was a once in a lifetime event there.
jonny1
03-11-2006, 11:51 AM
The logic of this escapes me.
He doesn't like the way Muslims are portrayed or treated, so he tries to run down a bunch of innocent people to prove his point . . . ??? WTF
May have been a smart student, but I don't think he took debate.
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 12:02 PM
Interesting you select the one example of terrorism not perpetrated by muslims, and say see, whities do it too. It is not incorrect to assume its arabs or muslims who perpetrate terror, because it's them a majority of the time.
:Broncos:
What about the "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid? He wasn't Arab. Logic does not seem to have a place in this conversation. Its okay to paint a broad brush stroke of "yea we have to racial profile all these Arabs because they are all terrorists" yet you conveniently forget when people of other ethnicity's commit the same vile acts we all condemn. This is nothing but a practice of extreme ignorance and racism.
TheDave
03-11-2006, 12:06 PM
What about the "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid? He wasn't Arab.
So, we are at what, 98.9% Arab now. I think its fair to look their way when discussing terrorism.
The day the Red headed Irish guys start going nuts here, i will volunteer to show up at the airports early for my "Screening"
Hercules Rockefeller
03-11-2006, 12:07 PM
So, we are at what, 98.9% Arab now.
Still about 99.5% Muslim though
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 12:07 PM
So, we are at what, 98.9% Arab now. I think its fair to look their way when discussing terrorism.
The day the Red headed Irish guys start going nuts here, i will volunteer to show up at the airports early for my "Screening"
How many terrorists act have been in commited in the USA? 9/11 and The Oklahoma City bombing. Who perpertraded those acts? You do the math.
TheDave
03-11-2006, 12:08 PM
Still about 99.5% Muslim though
my bad
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 12:09 PM
Still about 99.5% Muslim though
Yet another ignorant poster.
TheDave
03-11-2006, 12:09 PM
How many terrorists act have been in commited in the USA? 9/11 and The Oklahoma City bombing. Who perpertraded those acts? You do the math.
did you read the article?
watermock
03-11-2006, 12:10 PM
What about the "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid? He wasn't Arab. Logic does not seem to have a place in this conversation. Its okay to paint a broad brush stroke of "yea we have to racial profile all these Arabs because they are all terrorists" yet you conveniently forget when people of other ethnicity's commit the same vile acts we all condemn. This is nothing but a practice of extreme ignorance and racism.
Your a utter moron
BOSTON (CNN) -- The man who admitted to trying to blow up a U.S. jetliner with explosives in his shoes was wrestled out of a courtroom by federal marshals Thursday after a federal judge sentenced him to life in prison.
As he was dragged out of the courtroom, Richard Reid began yelling at Judge William Young, repeating his allegiance to Osama bin Laden.
Hercules Rockefeller
03-11-2006, 12:12 PM
Yet another ignorant poster.
Of course I am because I am unwilling to look at the single instance of OKC and make the broad assertion that everyone does it.
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 12:41 PM
Of course I am because I am unwilling to look at the single instance of OKC and make the broad assertion that everyone does it.
Would you not consider church bombings as terrorists acts? Or does this not fit your worldview? Would you consider assassination of Presidents as terrorists acts? Or is that not convient for you? Who killed Lincoln, JFK, or MLK? Who shot President Reagan? Who tried to take out President Ford?
If you want to go down the list of "terrorist" acts committed in the United States your uneducated view would surely be shattered.
Ignorance is bliss.
watermock
03-11-2006, 12:55 PM
Muslims don't have a problem bombing christian churches.
Hercules Rockefeller
03-11-2006, 12:56 PM
If you want to go down the list of "terrorist" acts committed in the United States your uneducated view would surely be shattered.
Ignorance is bliss.
Yes, my totally uneducated worldview. But I'm also not the one so desperate for examples to validate my worldview that everyone does it or it's not just one group, that I've got to use the Lincoln assassination as an example of terrorism. Hell, your most recent example is Reagan's assassination and that was about 25 years ago. Anything more recent?
Seriously, like every 30 seconds... some Muslim around the globe is enacting violence on someone (usually innocent) to protest something or other.
But, it's not a violent religion... really.
No, really.
It's not.
Jeffery Domer was a Catholic so was Mussolini.
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 01:02 PM
Yes, my totally uneducated worldview. But I'm also not the one so desperate for examples to validate my worldview that everyone does it or it's not just one group, that I've got to use the Lincoln assassination as an example of terrorism. Hell, your most recent example is Reagan's assassination and that was about 25 years ago. Anything more recent?
Who bombed the 96 Atlanta Summer Olympics? Was it not Eric Rudolph? Or is that not "arab" enough for you?
watermock
03-11-2006, 01:02 PM
Reagan wasn't assasinated...it was an attempt by a disturbed kid.
watermock
03-11-2006, 01:04 PM
Jeffery Domer was a Catholic so was Mussolini.
Your kidding me right? Do you think they took a look at their behaivor? Those two clowns were exterminated in due course.
Hercules Rockefeller
03-11-2006, 01:09 PM
Who bombed the 96 Atlanta Summer Olympics? Was it not Eric Rudolph? Or is that not "arab" enough for you?
So you've got OKC and Rudolph vs. WTC 1, WTC 2, Richard Reid, Khobar, USS Cole, the Embassy Bombings, the Marine barracks in Beirut, and I'm sure I'm missing some more in just the past 25 years.
FYI, about the "arab" part- you might want to look at my original post, since all I pointed out was about 99.5% of terrorist attacks are perpetuated by Muslims and I said nothing about Arabs. Next time you attempt to go after someone, you might want to make sure you attack their actual argument instead of attacking what you "want" their argument to be.
I'd love to stay and chat, but I've got to go catch a flight now.
Meck77
03-11-2006, 01:10 PM
You know I got to think about this SOB dieing in his cell like a rat.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3190/milosvic8hy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I seem to recall the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA leading the charge to remove this bastard (Milosovic)after he killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 8,000 muslims and would have killed alot more had we not jumped in.
Where is the love for this good deed?
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 01:16 PM
So you've got OKC and Rudolph vs. WTC 1, WTC 2, Richard Reid, Khobar, USS Cole, the Embassy Bombings, the Marine barracks in Beirut, and I'm sure I'm missing some more in just the past 25 years.
FYI, about the "arab" part- you might want to look at my original post, since all I pointed out was about 99.5% of terrorist attacks are perpetuated by Muslims and I said nothing about Arabs. Next time you attempt to go after someone, you might want to make sure you attack their actual argument instead of attacking what you "want" their argument to be.
I'd love to stay and chat, but I've got to go catch a flight now.
Ha, read posts 16 and 17 and get back to me. You corrected thedave's brilliant view of that "98.9%" of terrorists acts are commited by "arabs." Then you jumped in with the "politically correct" assumption that it is "99.5%" of terrorists acts are commited by "muslims." So this all the rebuttal you can muster? The blind leading the blind into a realm of uneducated hate.
No1BroncoFan
03-11-2006, 01:21 PM
Who bombed the 96 Atlanta Summer Olympics? Was it not Eric Rudolph? Or is that not "arab" enough for you?
Talk about painting with a broad brush. According to you, every violent crime is suddenly an act of terrorism. Do you even know what "terrorism" means?
Ben
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 01:22 PM
Talk about painting with a broad brush. According to you, every violent crime is suddenly an act of terrorism. Do you even know what "terrorism" means?
Ben
Define it for me.
Hercules Rockefeller
03-11-2006, 01:24 PM
Ha, read posts 16 and 17 and get back to me. You corrected thedave's brilliant view of that "98.9%" of terrorists acts are commited by "arabs." Then you jumped in with the "politically correct" assumption that it is "99.5%" of terrorists acts are commited by "muslims." So this all the rebuttal you can muster? The blind leading the blind into a realm of uneducated hate.
You brilliantly pointed out that Reid wasn't Arab and after TheDave's correction all I did was point out that Reid was still a Muslim. You ran with it from there calling me ignorant. Apparently recognizing hyperbole isn't your strong point. But still I'm just waiting for some facts to shoot down my ignorant statements that the vast majority of terrorist attacks in the world aren't committed by Muslims.
Oh, I must say that your rebuttal was fantastic too. I must have missed it in the above quote where you refuted my point about OKC and Rudolph against the other terrorist attacks perpetuated against the US instead of attacking semantics. I mean, you've got actual numbers of attacks on your side. Wait, you don't. So surely you must have total killed and wounded on your side. Wait, there's another one that doesn't back you up. I know, the most recent attacks surely make your argument. Damn, that point isn't on your side either. So to recap, the number of attacks, number of casualties, and when they actually occurred don't back you up your points. But then I'm the one who is ignorant, so there's got to be something on your side that I'm just too blind to see.
watermock
03-11-2006, 01:25 PM
Gonzo, your deflecting blame. Period.
No1BroncoFan
03-11-2006, 01:25 PM
Define it for me.
Never mind. You've got your world view and I ain't gonna change it. Go ahead and flounder in your ignorance. Just know this. Many of the crimes you mentioned can in no way be defined as terrorism except by you.
Sorry, just not up for a pointless argument today.
Ben
GonzoLays
03-11-2006, 01:31 PM
Never mind. You've got your world view and I ain't gonna change it. Go ahead and flounder in your ignorance. Just know this. Many of the crimes you mentioned can in no way be defined as terrorism except by you.
Sorry, just not up for a pointless argument today.
Ben
Because you can't and if you did everything I listed would be considered terrorism.
watermock
03-11-2006, 01:33 PM
look you dimwit, noone ever said it was mutually exlusive.
No1BroncoFan
03-11-2006, 01:36 PM
Because you can't and if you did everything I listed would be considered terrorism.
Whatever. Like I said, I'm not in the mood for a pointless argument. Your ignorance needs no help from me in getting exposed. It's all hanging out there for everyone to see.
Ben
Popps
03-11-2006, 01:46 PM
Timothy McVeigh wasn't Arab and he is the most infamous domestic terrorist known in the US. What should we do about people like him?
String him up by his balls and beat him with a baseball bat?
Popps
03-11-2006, 01:48 PM
You know I got to think about this SOB dieing in his cell like a rat.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3190/milosvic8hy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I seem to recall the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA leading the charge to remove this bastard (Milosovic)after he killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 8,000 muslims and would have killed alot more had we not jumped in.
Where is the love for this good deed?
Great post.
watermock
03-11-2006, 01:52 PM
the deflection by these morions is amazing.
This is about a clown taking an SUV thru a crowd of girls in the name of allah...
Stop defecting you dimwits, it only shows how stupid you are. You need to take your medication for ADD?
Atlas
03-11-2006, 03:21 PM
What about the "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid? He wasn't Arab. .
He was a muslim though.
Hang the bastard...not only that, he ran down women...****in coward. Where were the men to beat him to a pulp...oh right...he sped away in the name of Allah.
I'm sick and tired of the apologists. And even more sick and tired of idiots claiming that Islam is a religion of peace. Peace to fellow muslims isn't even true.
Noone seems to understand Death to the Infidels?
Even our President was stupid enough to appease Muslims worldwide after 9/11 by saying "Islam is a religion of peace." Who is he kidding?! Perhaps that is why he wanted UAE to take over 6 of our ports. That's asinine. Apparently, $$$ is more important than principle (and safety for U.S. citizens).
What about the "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid? He wasn't Arab. Logic does not seem to have a place in this conversation. Its okay to paint a broad brush stroke of "yea we have to racial profile all these Arabs because they are all terrorists" yet you conveniently forget when people of other ethnicity's commit the same vile acts we all condemn. This is nothing but a practice of extreme ignorance and racism.
He was Muslim ... how many white Muslims have you seen lately? Yeah, that's what I thought ...
Timothy McVeigh wasn't Arab and he is the most infamous domestic terrorist known in the US. What should we do about people like him? Racial profile thin white guys with military hightops?
Typically, profiling doesn't occur from ONE instance of terrorism ... can you come up with a better example?
Who bombed the 96 Atlanta Summer Olympics? Was it not Eric Rudolph? Or is that not "arab" enough for you?
It's funny how DAILY terrorist acts committed by Muslims are on equal footing with random terrorist acts committed over several decades whenever you try to prove a point ... that ain't cutting it ... keep trying, though.
Popps
03-11-2006, 03:35 PM
Jeffery Domer was a Catholic so was Mussolini.
Gomer Pyle was a Private. What's that got to do with anything?
One serial killer and one fascist dictator from the 20s. How about we keep it relevant?
You can spare me the "other people are bad, too" schpeal. Maybe they are. It doesn't mean that Muslims aren't terrorizing innocent people on a daily basis at a clip that far exceeds any other religious (or otherwise) group of people.
Are all Muslims bad? Of course not. But a bunch of them are, and some people are tired of it. It it was Catholics acting like barbarians, I'd be criticizing them, too. I don't give a flying **** about anyone's religion. Do what you want... but don't inflict harm on innocent people because you're people are stuck in the middle ages.
SteveTensi13
03-11-2006, 04:23 PM
[QUOTE=GonzoLays]What about the "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid? He wasn't Arab. Logic does not seem to have a place in this conversation. Its okay to paint a broad brush stroke of "yea we have to racial profile all these Arabs because they are all terrorists" yet you conveniently forget when people of other ethnicity's commit the same vile acts we all condemn. This is nothing but a practice of extreme ignorance and racism.[/QUOT
And yet another example of pre-911 thinking from the elite liberal side. Haven't seen too many middle age white guys sawing off the heads of innocents. Last time I checked it was middle eastern arabs that flew planes into the WTC, bombed the USS Cole, rioted to protest cartoons for Gods sake,sprayed bullets at an Israeli airlines terminal. I could go on and on but I dont want to be accused of extreme ignorance and racism by the enlightened few.
SteveTensi13
03-11-2006, 04:26 PM
You know I got to think about this SOB dieing in his cell like a rat.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3190/milosvic8hy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I seem to recall the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA leading the charge to remove this bastard (Milosovic)after he killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 8,000 muslims and would have killed alot more had we not jumped in.
Where is the love for this good deed?
Milosevic had the right idea. We should have let him finish the job!!
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 04:29 PM
Lets list the terror attacks against the USA, starting from 1991 till now.
1st WTC attack
Kobar towers attack in saudi arabia
OKC federal building bombed
embassy bombings in eastern africa
USS cole attacked
2nd wtc, pentagon, somerset county, pa attacks
so...since 1992, only once were we attacked by anyone other then idiot arabic muslims.
:Broncos:
TheDave
03-11-2006, 04:30 PM
And yet another example of pre-911 thinking from the elite liberal side. Haven't seen too many middle age white guys sawing off the heads of innocents. Last time I checked it was middle eastern arabs that flew planes into the WTC, bombed the USS Cole, rioted to protest cartoons for Gods sake,sprayed bullets at an Israeli airlines terminal. I could go on and on but I dont want to be accused of extreme ignorance and racism by the enlightened few.
actually Gonzo is from the elite Idiot side of things...and yes there is a difference
SteveTensi13
03-11-2006, 04:34 PM
actually Gonzo is from the elite Idiot side of things...and yes there is a difference
LOL LOL
Spider
03-11-2006, 04:47 PM
I am all for racial profiling , but then wouldnt Ted Bundy be concidered a terrorist ? how about the son of Sam ? Charles Manson ? john Wyane Gasey ? are they not terrorist also ? .........
Islam isnt very peacefull specialy when it comes to the white man , hell check out black Muslims , they wil tell you the white man is the devil .......Long ago it was the WASP vs the Catholics ...... I will try and put this in a way not to sound racist , but chances are i will screw it up ........ The Muslim has no idea who he is dícking with here , from England on thier conquest up to America , we have damn near faught every race on the planet including ourselfs , we dont waste time with beheadings and swords , we will mow you down , without so much as getting a hangnail if we so wish , the only thing keeping you muslims alive is the kindness in our hearts , the only reason Chinia and N.K. are showing bravado is our value on human life , if we thought like they did ( see tieniemen square) there wouldnt be a Chinia or a N.Korea .......
But the real question is how far can you push us before we go apeshít and split some wigs ? Picture it like this , an asshole kid jabs a pit bull with a stick , how many times will the Kid be able to jab before he gets ripped a new ásshole ?
watermock
03-11-2006, 04:54 PM
I am all for racial profiling , but then wouldnt Ted Bundy be concidered a terrorist ? how about the son of Sam ? Charles Manson ? john Wyane Gasey ? are they not terrorist also ? .........
Islam isnt very peacefull specialy when it comes to the white man , hell check out black Muslims , they wil tell you the white man is the devil .......Long ago it was the WASP vs the Catholics ...... I will try and put this in a way not to sound racist , but chances are i will screw it up ........ The Muslim has no idea who he is dícking with here , from England on thier conquest up to America , we have damn near faught every race on the planet including ourselfs , we dont waste time with beheadings and swords , we will mow you down , without so much as getting a hangnail if we so wish , the only thing keeping you muslims alive is the kindness in our hearts , the only reason Chinia and N.K. are showing bravado is our value on human life , if we thought like they did ( see tieniemen square) there wouldnt be a Chinia or a N.Korea .......
But the real question is how far can you push us before we go apeshít and split some wigs ? Picture it like this , an a-hole kid jabs a pit bull with a stick , how many times will the Kid be able to jab before he gets ripped a new ásshole ?
WTF are you talking about? Jesus,,,never mind your so damn stupid it isn't worth going point to point.
Spider
03-11-2006, 04:55 PM
WTF are you talking about? Jesus,,,never mind your so damn stupid it isn't worth going point to point.
out of booze already ?
ro_50
03-11-2006, 05:37 PM
As an Asian-American who parents are Hindhu and have many friends that are muslim, it saddens me that people generalize that all MUSLIMS are terrorists or the majority of them are.
Fact is, most of them condone these attacks and the idiots that use their religion as the basis for their attacks or hate.
I think its sad as a person who loves this country that many of my fellow Americans generalize about one's religion based on someone else's stupidity.
That guy is an jacka## that did that, it doesnt mean the Muslim religion is violent or that most of them are TERRORISTS.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP DOING THIS TO EACH OTHER. PLEASE OPEN YOUR HEART AND MIND. MOST OF THEM, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MUSLIMS, HATE THE SICK PEOPLE WHO DO THESE ATTACKS.
THIS COUNTRY IS PREDICATED ON A LOT OF DIVERSITY, PEOPLE W/ MANY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND RELIGIONS.
Some of ya'll need to realize that before you make assertions about anyone and their religion.
As an Asian-American who parents are Hindhu and have many friends that are muslim, it saddens me that people generalize that all MUSLIMS are terrorists or the majority of them are.
Fact is, most of them condone these attacks and the idiots that use their religion as the basis for their attacks or hate.
I think its sad as a person who loves this country that many of my fellow Americans generalize about one's religion based on someone else's stupidity.
That guy is an jacka## that did that, it doesnt mean the Muslim religion is violent or that most of them are TERRORISTS.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP DOING THIS TO EACH OTHER. PLEASE OPEN YOUR HEART AND MIND. MOST OF THEM, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MUSLIMS, HATE THE SICK PEOPLE WHO DO THESE ATTACKS.
THIS COUNTRY IS PREDICATED ON A LOT OF DIVERSITY, PEOPLE W/ MANY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND RELIGIONS.
Some of ya'll need to realize that before you make assertions about anyone and their religion.
I don't feel people are saying that "all Muslims are terrorists" but rather "terrorists are predominantly Muslim." What many others are also upset about is the conspicuously silent Muslim community in the United States that has been fairly silent, relatively speaking, about all of the terrorism bloodshed. Many people may interpret that as "silence speaks volumes." Why aren't more Muslim groups condemning the attacks?
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 05:44 PM
Fact is, most of them condone these attacks and the idiots that use their religion as the basis for their attacks or hate.
When has any Muslim leader condemned the attacks without attatching "you support the jews in their oppression of palestine" or some other stupid qualifyer? No Muslim may correct another Muslim's view of Islam, so while they can disagree with Osama, or Saddam, or Sadr, they cannot speak out against him without making themselves Apostate, and therefore, open for slaughter. I hear what you are trying to say, but it would not be incorrect to say most terror acts in the world today is the fault of muslims.
:Broncos:
ro_50
03-11-2006, 05:59 PM
When has any Muslim leader condemned the attacks without attatching "you support the jews in their oppression of palestine" or some other stupid qualifyer? No Muslim may correct another Muslim's view of Islam, so while they can disagree with Osama, or Saddam, or Sadr, they cannot speak out against him without making themselves Apostate, and therefore, open for slaughter. I hear what you are trying to say, but it would not be incorrect to say most terror acts in the world today is the fault of muslims.
:Broncos:
I'm talking about the regular people who are Muslim, not the leaders.
I've had some of my muslim friends verbally abused after 9/11 for no reason.
One of them was walking with his girlfriend in a park in Huntsville, Ala. and they got yelled at by people driving by and they threw trash at them.
And another friend of mine was attacked physically by three men two days after 9/11 for no reason. He was walking back to his car w/ his friend after watching a movie.
So I have some issues with people just generalizing everyone just cuz of their religion.
I'm talking about the regular people who are Muslim, not the leaders.
I've had some of my muslim friends verbally abused after 9/11 for no reason.
One of them was walking with his girlfriend in a park in Huntsville, Ala. and they got yelled at by people driving by and they threw trash at them.
And another friend of mine was attacked physically by three men two days after 9/11 for no reason. He was walking back to his car w/ his friend after watching a movie.
So I have some issues with people just generalizing everyone just cuz of their religion.
I'm sorry to hear that that happened. I still believe that if American Muslims were more vocal about their opposition to terrorism, those kinds of things would be less likely to happen.
ro_50
03-11-2006, 06:03 PM
I don't feel people are saying that "all Muslims are terrorists" but rather "terrorists are predominantly Muslim." What many others are also upset about is the conspicuously silent Muslim community in the United States that has been fairly silent, relatively speaking, about all of the terrorism bloodshed. Many people may interpret that as "silence speaks volumes." Why aren't more Muslim groups condemning the attacks?
I know for a fact that the Huntsville muslim chapter condone the 9/11 attacks as did the Birmingham, Ala. chapter.
I dont know about others.
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding some people's post about it.
I know firsthand what it feels like to be stared at or glanced at just cuz the way you look or what your skin color is.
Maybe thats why I'm saying all of this.
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 06:03 PM
I'm talking about the regular people who are Muslim, not the leaders.
I've had some of my muslim friends verbally abused after 9/11 for no reason.
3,000 people die in one day. caused by muslims. if only those 3,000 were verbally abused instead. being that there is no ultimate human authority, like a Pope, in islam, no individual may correct another. thats one of the problems with Islam. It has no ability for self-criticism.
:Broncos:
ro_50
03-11-2006, 06:05 PM
3,000 people die in one day. caused by muslims. if only those 3,000 were verbally abused instead.
:Broncos:
If you are talking about 9/11, there were some American-Muslims that were part of the casualities on that horrific day.
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 06:08 PM
[QUOTE=ro_50]I know for a fact that the Huntsville muslim chapter condone the 9/11 attacks as did the Birmingham, Ala. chapter.
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do you mean condone, or condemn? if its the former, they agree with it. if its the later, they dont.
:Broncos:
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 06:09 PM
If you are talking about 9/11, there were some American-Muslims that were part of the casualities on that horrific day.
If? what other day in the last 10 years has 3,000 americans died from direct attack?
:Broncos:
ro_50
03-11-2006, 06:09 PM
Sorry,
I meant condemn. Not condone. I'm bad with words.
My bad.
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 06:10 PM
Sorry,
I meant condemn. Not condone. I'm bad with words.
My bad.
It's cool. knew what you meant.
:Broncos:
ro_50
03-11-2006, 06:12 PM
The 5,000 or more victims of 9/11 consisted of every race and religion imaginable.
It wasnt just an attack on the US, but on the world.
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 06:13 PM
The 5,000 or more victims of 9/11 consisted of every race and religion imaginable.
It wasnt just an attack on the US, but on the world.
We agree here.
:Broncos:
ro_50
03-11-2006, 06:18 PM
We agree here.
:Broncos:
That UNC guy is just an sick, sick idiot.
Thank god he didnt kill anyone.
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 06:20 PM
That UNC guy is just an sick, sick idiot.
Thank god he didnt kill anyone.
agreed again.
:Broncos:
If you are talking about 9/11, there were some American-Muslims that were part of the casualities on that horrific day.
Muslims call that "collateral damage," just a by-product of the radicals furthering their cause.
3,000 people die in one day. caused by muslims. if only those 3,000 were verbally abused instead. being that there is no ultimate human authority, like a Pope, in islam, no individual may correct another. thats one of the problems with Islam. It has no ability for self-criticism.
:Broncos:
Excellent post ...
Popps
03-11-2006, 07:53 PM
The 5,000 or more victims of 9/11 consisted of every race and religion imaginable.
It wasnt just an attack on the US, but on the world.
Good luck convincing the rest of the world of that. They'll be hiding under the covers, if you need them.
Popps
03-11-2006, 07:57 PM
BAGHDAD, Iraq - An American aid worker taken hostage with three other peace activists was apparently tortured before he was shot in the head and chest and his body dumped near a railroad line in Baghdad, Iraqi police said Saturday.
Just keep scanning the news, folks... one after the other, in all corners of the globe. Constant violence in the name of that religion.
Hell, it's working. Their bully-tactics frightened our own media out of printing some rather benign cartoons.
I'll write that again... religious extremists from OTHER countries scared our own media (supposedly so concerned with the public's right to know) out of printing pictures of a satyrical cartoon. Not just a satyrical cartoon, but one of tremendous relevance.
Hey, if you're one of these ragheads, why not keep killing people. The rest of the globe is either hiding or making apologies for your behavior.
BAGHDAD, Iraq - An American aid worker taken hostage with three other peace activists was apparently tortured before he was shot in the head and chest and his body dumped near a railroad line in Baghdad, Iraqi police said Saturday.
Just keep scanning the news, folks... one after the other, in all corners of the globe. Constant violence in the name of that religion.
Hell, it's working. Their bully-tactics frightened our own media out of printing some rather benign cartoons.
I'll write that again... religious extremists from OTHER countries scared our own media (supposedly so concerned with the public's right to know) out of printing pictures of a satyrical cartoon. Not just a satyrical cartoon, but one of tremendous relevance.
Hey, if you're one of these ragheads, why not keep killing people. The rest of the globe is either hiding or making apologies for your behavior.
Exactly ... the terrorists resort to violence (including killing) if someone SAYS or DOES something that contradicts THEIR religion. It isn't even an "eye for eye" but more like "a life for a word." Yeah, that seems fair - NOT ...
sirhcyennek81
03-11-2006, 09:45 PM
Exactly ... the terrorists resort to violence (including killing) if someone SAYS or DOES something that contradicts THEIR religion. It isn't even an "eye for eye" but more like "a life for a word." Yeah, that seems fair - NOT ...
They say they are engaged in a Jihad with the west. Maybe we should call it Crusade with the middle east. Call a religious and cultural war what it is. In fact, its not a new war, but an old war the west and islam has been fighting since 650 ad.
:Broncos:
clean
03-11-2006, 10:40 PM
... how many white Muslims have you seen lately?
John Walker Lindh Profile
John Walker Lindh spent his formative years in an affluent Northern California community known for its tolerance and open-mindedness. So how did he end up training in al Qaeda camps and fighting on the Taliban front lines in Afghanistan?
In interviews conducted with CNN and U.S. military and intelligence sources, the once seemingly typical Marin County, California, teen revealed a journey of spiritual zeal, linguistic and cultural education and battlefield training that ended with Walker Lindh bloodied and dazed after a prison uprising last November near Mazar-e Sharif.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/walker/profile.html
John Walker Lindh Profile
John Walker Lindh spent his formative years in an affluent Northern California community known for its tolerance and open-mindedness. So how did he end up training in al Qaeda camps and fighting on the Taliban front lines in Afghanistan?
In interviews conducted with CNN and U.S. military and intelligence sources, the once seemingly typical Marin County, California, teen revealed a journey of spiritual zeal, linguistic and cultural education and battlefield training that ended with Walker Lindh bloodied and dazed after a prison uprising last November near Mazar-e Sharif.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/walker/profile.html
one ... that's weak ...
Popps
03-11-2006, 10:48 PM
John Walker Lindh Profile
[I]John Walker Lindh spent his formative years in an affluent Northern California community known for its tolerance and open-mindedness.
Yea... and he was drawn to what? Islam. Where did he end up? With a weapon in his hands turned against soldiers of his own country.
So, I guess your point is that the magnetic pull of Muslim violence knows no boundaries?
clean
03-11-2006, 10:48 PM
one ... that's weak ...
"Welcome to Between 2 Worlds: Anglo-Caucasian Muslims. This site is dedicated to the seldom recognized communities of Anglo-Saxon and Caucasian Muslims all over the world, from Bosnia, Albania, Kosova, Bulgaria, Western Turkey, Russia, the Caucasus, and to the converts and 2nd generation Muslims of North America and Western Europe."
http://www.geocities.com/jrhalver/
clean
03-11-2006, 10:52 PM
So, I guess your point is that the magnetic pull of Muslim violence knows no boundaries?
No, as the post indicates, I'm pointing out Anglo-Caucasian Muslims.
There's always an exception to the rule ... one thing is for sure, everyone points to Islam, regardless of one's ethnicity ... it's violent, knows no boundaries, and has absolutely no tolerance for contrasting viewpoints.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
03-12-2006, 03:16 AM
According to the Associated Press, suspect Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, 22, a native of Iran, "allegedly made statements that he acted to avenge the American treatment of Muslims," FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko said.
I don't get it - how does running over a bunch of innocent civilians with your car "avenge the treatment of Muslims?"
What a stupid f_ck. :oyvey:
watermock
03-12-2006, 03:35 AM
Innocent girls to boot.
I was watching Fox and some Muslim clown was inciting rioting in a prison. Many, Many convicts are converted in prison. That's where the shoe bomber was converted.
I don't know what we are going to do with these Guantanamo Bay cretins. I would of prefered a "final solution" on the battlefield.