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baja
03-11-2006, 10:51 AM
Vote and say why you feel that way

Florida_Bronco
03-11-2006, 10:52 AM
No...we can spend 4 mil on more productive players.

RMT
03-11-2006, 10:52 AM
No...we can spend 4 mil on more productive players.

I second that.

spdirty
03-11-2006, 10:54 AM
2 mil

12th man
03-11-2006, 10:54 AM
No...we can spend 4 mil on more productive players.
exactly. pryce is wahsed up.

TheDave
03-11-2006, 10:55 AM
if he plays DT...sure, if not...NO!

Florida_Bronco
03-11-2006, 10:56 AM
I am curious as to who will sign Pryce and what he will get. I doubt he will be highly coveted.

baja
03-11-2006, 10:56 AM
We could pass on JA and keep out first rd pick and save about 2 mill a year.

AlienBronco
03-11-2006, 10:57 AM
Sign him, and move him inside

TheDave
03-11-2006, 10:57 AM
We could pass on JA and keep out first rd pick and save about 2 mill a year.

we would also be passing on 8-10 sacks

ClevelandBronco
03-11-2006, 10:59 AM
Thanks for the memories...

baja
03-11-2006, 11:01 AM
we would also be passing on 8-10 sacks

We could sign Carter and maybe get simular production and a first rd pick to boot.

TheDave
03-11-2006, 11:03 AM
We could sign Carter and maybe get simular production and a first rd pick to boot.

not sure if carter is in the same league as Abe but yes i would definately look at him.

bpc
03-11-2006, 11:03 AM
He would have to be much cheaper then that. Nobody will offer much of anything over a million I would suspect. If he can get that in Denver he would be foolish to leave. I'm not against having him back. I like Trevor and he can take over games at times although we haven't seen that TP in awhile. I would love for him to win another SB in Denver. We aren't that far away.

baja
03-11-2006, 11:03 AM
JA = ? in attitude and health

Does Pryce + Carter + first rd pick = JA?

Hercules Rockefeller
03-11-2006, 11:04 AM
We could pass on JA and keep out first rd pick and save about 2 mill a year.

Sweet, 4 sacks from RDE.

clint7
03-11-2006, 11:06 AM
I don't don't by VHS tapes any longer, no matter how cheap they are.
Pryce = VHS

baja
03-11-2006, 11:07 AM
Sweet, 4 sacks from RDE.

Not that simple, we could get Carter and retain the 22 or 29th pick in a great draft class. There are questions relative to tude (your big issue) and health for JA

baja
03-11-2006, 11:08 AM
Why is JA any different than I hop

spdirty
03-11-2006, 11:08 AM
What do you guys think we'd have to give up to get Peppers? Just throwing it out there...

RMT
03-11-2006, 11:10 AM
Not that simple, we could get Carter and retain the 22 or 29th pick in a great draft class. There are questions relative to tude (your big issue) and health for JA

That sounds most practical ...

Popps
03-11-2006, 11:10 AM
Pryce is pretty valuable against the run.

4 mil sounds like a lot for the production he brings, though.

1.5 mil with sack, tackle and games played incentives.

baja
03-11-2006, 11:10 AM
It's not like we are getting a high motor injury free guy that is guaranteed to deliver 10 to 12 sacks ya know

TheDave
03-11-2006, 11:10 AM
JA = ? in attitude and health

Does Pryce + Carter + first rd pick = JA?

Going by the last 3 years we get...

Andre Carter 13 sacks

Trevor Pryce 12.5 Sacks

John Abraham 26 Sacks

So actually it's close but abraham still has the lead

baja
03-11-2006, 11:12 AM
Pryce is pretty valuable against the run.

4 mil sounds like a lot for the production he brings, though.

1.5 mil with sack, tackle and games played incentives.

Good idea on the incentives with a guy like Pryce.

baja
03-11-2006, 11:13 AM
Going by the last 3 years we get...

Andre Carter 13 sacks

Trevor Pryce 12.5 Sacks

John Abraham 26 Sacks

So actually it's close but abraham still has the lead

You have to factor in the value of the 22 or 29 pick we would save.

wolf754life
03-11-2006, 11:15 AM
price is a merck, he plays for contracts, not his team, he will probably have 10 sacks for his new team if he signs a one year deal, if he gets paid watch out, he will be cut next year, its too bad really, he used to have a motor, used to play with heart, we used to need him, but things change and so we find guys who play with heart, i am also worried about abraham, once we pay him all that cash, but we will just have to see

TheDave
03-11-2006, 11:19 AM
You have to factor in the value of the 22 or 29 pick we would save.

The value of the 29th pick for next year is most likely 0... let me explain.

1st round picks have a historical bust rate of about 50%... Add to that the fact that shanahan starts his rookies rarely, I would venture a guess that maybe a 10% chance of the rooking contributing anything next year.

so giving up #29 for JA is a good risk to me.

We can resign pryce regardless of whether we sign JA or AC

watermock
03-11-2006, 11:19 AM
When his agent postured about not taking an overall pay cut, just restructuring we cut line, for good reason. This is all moot.

RhymesayersDU
03-11-2006, 11:21 AM
Good idea on the incentives with a guy like Pryce.
That's how all contracts should be, incentive based. Whether you're the best QB in the league or the last guy on the depth chart, it should be based on incentive. You produce, you get more money.

watermock
03-11-2006, 11:21 AM
1st round picks have a historical bust rate of about 50%... Add to that the fact that shanahan starts his rookies rarely, I would venture a guess that maybe a 10% chance of the rooking contributing anything next year.


So do free agents....and I think I saw DW and Foxy out there...

RMT
03-11-2006, 11:22 AM
Pryce will end up getting LESS on the free agent market than he would have gotten had he stayed with the Broncos at a reduced salary.

baja
03-11-2006, 11:22 AM
The value of the 29th pick for next year is most likely 0... let me explain.

1st round picks have a historical bust rate of about 50%... Add to that the fact that shanahan starts his rookies rarely, I would venture a guess that maybe a 10% chance of the rooking contributing anything next year.

so giving up #29 for JA is a good risk to me.

We can resign pryce regardless of whether we sign JA or AC

You can't value the 29 pick at 0. The broncos will not be disbanded after 2006 besides there are many other scenarios to consider such as trading up for a difference maker on O.

TheDave
03-11-2006, 11:25 AM
You can't value the 29 pick at 0. The broncos will not be disbanded after 2006 besides there are many other scenarios to consider such as trading up for a difference maker on O.

I don't care about anything but next year... too many variables to make an accurate judgement forcasting one season ahead after that it is even more of a crap shoot.

and like i said we can target pryce regardless of wether we sign JA or AC.

baja
03-11-2006, 11:40 AM
I don't care about anything but next year... too many variables to make an accurate judgement forcasting one season ahead after that it is even more of a crap shoot.

and like i said we can target pryce regardless of wether we sign JA or AC.

I doubt we would invest that much money and roster spots on the D line (Pryce + JA)

I think it would be fool hardy to think of only next season. You need to keep getting better and younger or you end up like SF, dynasty to perennial cellar dweller

TheDave
03-11-2006, 11:41 AM
I doubt we would invest that much money and roster spots on the D line (Pryce + JA)

I think it would be fool hardy to think of only next season. You need to keep getting better and younger or you end up like SF, dynasty to perennial cellar dweller

yet the front office is doing exactly the opposite of what you are suggesting... Hmmmm.....

BritBronco Maniac
03-11-2006, 11:46 AM
It depends what Pryce's cap number would be, and whether he is willing to move back to DT

baja
03-11-2006, 11:46 AM
yet the front office is doing exactly the opposite of what you are suggesting... Hmmmm.....

No, they are doing exactly what i am suggesting, getting younger AND better, balancing youth and vets.

They cut MA TP and the 3rd year player Jeb (who they will probably try and bring back0

TheDave
03-11-2006, 11:50 AM
No, they are doing exactly what i am suggesting, getting younger AND better, balancing youth and vets.

They cut MA TP and the 3rd year player Jeb (who they will probably try and bring back0

strange, i thought we were talking about trading for JA and releasing Pryce

baja
03-11-2006, 11:55 AM
strange, i thought we were talking about trading for JA and releasing Pryce

I mean relative to thinking beyond next season, balance is the key word here. We will not bring in a bunch of long in the tooth gun slingers to make a run and mortgage the future. Balance is Shanny's mantra, well besides "We want football players" ;D

Play2win
03-11-2006, 01:01 PM
Pryce doesn't meet our new standard of talent.

baja
03-11-2006, 01:03 PM
Pryce doesn't meet our new standard of talent.

truthfully I suspect that is true and add Mike Anderson and Putz to that list.

Play2win
03-11-2006, 01:13 PM
truthfully I suspect that is true and add Mike Anderson and Putz to that list.

Yep! ;D :thumbsup:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1014098#post1014098

DBroncos4life
03-11-2006, 02:00 PM
Someone tell me how moving him to DE prolonged his career? He was one of the BEST DTs in the game. Every bit as good as Sapp was in his prime. We move him outside and he looks washed up at the age of 30. Sapp is still inside and he had a very productive 10 games last year at the age of 33. Sapp was on pace for 8 sacks and 51 tackles last year. That would have been double our best sack guy, which was a tie, Lynch and Pryce. Pryce doesn't have the speed to play DE but he still has the power and the moves to play DT IMO.

maven
03-11-2006, 02:01 PM
Simple. Doesn't produce.

The MVPlaya
03-29-2010, 08:00 PM
bump... I guess Shanny wasn't the only one that felt like dline wasn't important.