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eddie mac
03-11-2006, 03:56 AM
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4533533,00.html

Deal for Warren might be reached today
Money apparently secondary issue for Broncos defender
Gerard Warren's desire to remain with the Denver Broncos might soon become reality.
Joel Segal, Warren's agent, maintained there was a possibility that the deal could still get done today.

"I think there's a chance," he said. "We've made very good progress, things are moving in the right direction."

Negotiations on a new contract for the defensive tackle continued Friday, and there were indications the sides were finding common ground with free agency opening later in the evening.

Many NFL teams are flush with salary-cap room given the new labor agreement, and Warren had figured to generate substantial interest on the open market given that $7.5 million boost per club. But he has been steadfast in his desire to remain with the Broncos, who acquired him last off-season.

Warren still figures to command a significant contract with Denver, probably in the range of $5 million to $6 million annually with guarantees in the area of $8 million to $10 million. But that deal perhaps could have been trumped had he allowed other suitors to bid on him.

Yet money appears to be only a secondary concern to the comfort level of Warren, who played three- quarters of the team's defensive snaps last season, more than any other defensive lineman.

"You get tired of losing," Warren said earlier this week, alluding to his first four pro seasons with the Cleveland Browns. "It's not always about the dollar value. Keep us with respectable money. But it's being in coach (Mike) Shanahan's system and winning that's really luring us to stay in Denver, Colorado."

If, as expected, Warren re-signs, he will be the latest core player agreeing to return to the Broncos.

Expected to soon add to that list is long-snapper Mike Leach. A four-year contract that includes a $300,000 signing bonus is only missing Leach's signature, which he's expected to provide today.

Stability also is important for Leach, because he recently became a first-time parent. And he wanted to stick around, too.

"I think they realize I've done a good job for them, and they wanted to reward me and make sure I'm here for a few years," said Leach, who doubles as a tight end. "It's not a lottery deal, but I'm happy with it."

The team continues working through issues of structure and length in negotiating with running back Ron Dayne.

"We've been pretty much butting heads on the same stuff," Dayne's agent, Len Rowe, said after the latest round of negotiations Friday night.

Still, there was hope that either a two- or three-year contract could be hammered out quickly with free agency looming and Dayne intent on returning to possibly take on a large workload.

Those deals, and securing the return of special-teams captain Keith Burns, probably will leave the Broncos to make one other big-ticket deal. The acquisition of John Abraham from the New York Jets has been discussed.

eddie mac
03-11-2006, 03:59 AM
If that indeed is the case then I certainly dont want to waste that 1 big player acquisition on John Abraham never mind giving up a 1st rounder. We'd be better going for James, keeping our draft picks and signing one or two mid tier FA's.

watermock
03-11-2006, 04:05 AM
Many NFL teams are flush with salary-cap room given the new labor agreement, and Warren had figured to generate substantial interest on the open market given that $7.5 million boost per club.

First the cap is going from 84 in 2005 to 102 then 107 in 2007.

Second, Those are not unreasonable for an agent to ask. Not going to happen. He will sign tho.

Kaylore
03-11-2006, 04:06 AM
I'm happy that Leach and Warren look to get re-signed. I'm also happy that it looks like we won't be one of the teams breaking the wallet open for Abraham the way he wants.

BritBronco Maniac
03-11-2006, 04:10 AM
First the cap is going from 84 in 2005 to 102 then 107 in 2007.

Second, Those are not unreasonable for an agent to ask. Not going to happen. He will sign tho.

The cap for 2006 was going to be $94.5M if no new CBA was reached, hence the £7.5M

watermock
03-11-2006, 04:10 AM
I feel we can get the team better without a knee jerk

watermock
03-11-2006, 04:12 AM
The cap for 2006 was going to be $94.5M if no new CBA was reached, hence the £7.5M

That isn't the point. The fact is the cap is 18 millinon higher than last year.

Kaylore
03-11-2006, 04:12 AM
You know our draft picks have been pretty good lately all things considered. With two firsts in a deeper draft, I think we can reall improve this team and not need to kill our cap.

listopencil
03-11-2006, 04:12 AM
I think we really do need a speed rusher on the D-Line. I don't know about this Abraham guy, though.

Kaylore
03-11-2006, 04:15 AM
The cap for 2006 was going to be $94.5M if no new CBA was reached, hence the £7.5M Actually that's 7.4 million dollars. In pounds It's more like £4.34M. :approve:

BritBronco Maniac
03-11-2006, 04:18 AM
All right smart a$$

Clockwork Orange
03-11-2006, 05:21 AM
It's hilarious the way these reporters keep changing their minds about how much cap space the Broncos have. Yesterday they had the space to pull off up to three moves and today it's down to one. Maybe tomorrow it'll be back up to two, who knows? They sure don't.

RMT
03-11-2006, 09:38 AM
You know our draft picks have been pretty good lately all things considered. With two firsts in a deeper draft, I think we can really improve this team and not need to kill our cap.

I agree ... I'm not too fond of us trading a 1st round pick for Abraham and killing our salary cap in the process.

Popps
03-11-2006, 10:00 AM
Bring on Abraham. Finally, a pass-rusher back in Denver.

He could play half a season and get us more production than the stiffs we've been lining up at DE.

Keep in mind, the article say "big ticket" free agent. We'll probably bring in a few other mid-level guys, too.

Popps
03-11-2006, 10:02 AM
As for Abraham's contract, for the 200th time... why does everyone assume that our staff will just suddenly go dumb?

We've been managing the cap well for years... bringing in guys like Bailey and still staying under the cap. Why would people around here assume our front office would all of a sudden decide to screw themselves?

Answer: They won't.

DarkHorse30
03-11-2006, 10:29 AM
As for Abraham's contract, for the 200th time... why does everyone assume that our staff will just suddenly go dumb?

We've been managing the cap well for years... bringing in guys like Bailey and still staying under the cap. Why would people around here assume our front office would all of a sudden decide to screw themselves?

Answer: They won't.

Good point. Remember that Denver hasn't asked some of their highest priced guys to renegotiate.....(champ 5.5M, Plummer 4.3M, Wilson 3.9M, Smith 3M)...and I really hope they don't. Every one of these guys has earned their big payday. BUT...they might, especially Champ and Plummer.

Bottom line, cutting Trevor and adding Abraham works out to be even money....MINUS that extra draft pick. Is adding a PROVEN pass rusher worth the 29th pick in the draft? Since we have an "extra", sign me up to the deal.

Florida_Bronco
03-11-2006, 10:54 AM
As for Abraham's contract, for the 200th time... why does everyone assume that our staff will just suddenly go dumb?

We've been managing the cap well for years... bringing in guys like Bailey and still staying under the cap. Why would people around here assume our front office would all of a sudden decide to screw themselves?

Answer: They won't.

Great post!

baja
03-11-2006, 10:59 AM
Everyone is assuming it will be the 29th pick what if it is the 22 pick. How do you feel about that, Popps?

watermock
03-11-2006, 11:03 AM
I'm not on the Abraham bandwagon at all when we dump a first and spend a ton. A third and 20 million over 3 years is fine. Rushing the passer isn't rocket science, and fresh/young legs are a plus. This guy isn't a Reggie White that can simply overpower people. NFL.com has him listed under 260.

12th man
03-11-2006, 11:09 AM
If we only could get one "big ticket" guy Im not sure who I want. TO or Abraham. I would wrather get TO and get a good DE in the draft if we could only get one big name in FA. But DE is our most glaring issue IMO, then it is wr. I just don't know right now. TO would make our offense lethal and open things up more. Abraham is exactly what we need on defense. I think we have enough play makers on our D except at de, but we need more playmakers in our offense. I have know idea who Iwould pick between the two. Damn, too bad we can't have both.

Popps
03-11-2006, 11:25 AM
Everyone is assuming it will be the 29th pick what if it is the 22 pick. How do you feel about that, Popps?

I'd prefer it wasn't the 22nd.

That said, given our needs and the fact that we'd still have a first round pick to use, I'm for taking the calculated gamble. Whether we're talking 22 or 29, we're looking at a project, most likely... a guy who'll produce in 2-3 years.

Plus, if there's a guy we LOVE at 22, we CAN bump up and grab him. Anyway, if history follows suit, we'll either draft a marginal player with those picks... or trade down for extras. I just can't figure out why people are so up in arms, given our dire need for a pass-rusher. My latest theory is that people just love the thrill of draft day... and trading away a pick kills some of that.

But, I'll take the upside of having an impact player on our line, for a change.

Abraham had more tackles and sacks than anyone on our line. Imagine him lined up on one side, Brown on the other... Warren providing push up the middle! Plus, we've still got guys like Ekuban who play the run well.
He'd be a great fit in our rotation.

baja
03-11-2006, 11:29 AM
I'd prefer it wasn't the 22nd.

That said, given our needs and the fact that we'd still have a first round pick to use, I'm for taking the calculated gamble. Whether we're talking 22 or 29, we're looking at a project, most likely... a guy who'll produce in 2-3 years.

Plus, if there's a guy we LOVE at 22, we CAN bump up and grab him. Anyway, if history follows suit, we'll either draft a marginal player with those picks... or trade down for extras. I just can't figure out why people are so up in arms, given our dire need for a pass-rusher. My latest theory is that people just love the thrill of draft day... and trading away a pick kills some of that.

But, I'll take the upside of having an impact player on our line, for a change.

Abraham had more tackles and sacks than anyone on our line. Imagine him lined up on one side, Brown on the other... Warren providing push up the middle! Plus, we've still got guys like Ekuban who play the run well.
He'd be a great fit in our rotation.

You are right he could be 'The perfect storm' with the personal we have, my concern is with his payday he becomes the perfect I Hop. He does not have great history both in the tude and health department. The price is high to find out and Carter (Great motor guy playing out of position on a bad team) is available for cash only.