Salary cap status of all 32 teams.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Just a little reminder that Bob was right on and your little hometown hero Adam Schefter was WRONG.


Under the salary cap
Team Cap status (under)

Green Bay Packers $35 million
Minnesota Vikings $30.9 million
Arizona Cardinals $28.9 million
Cleveland Browns $27.1 million
Philadelphia Eagles $26.1 million
San Diego Chargers $24.6 million
Jacksonville Jaguars $23.4 million
Dallas Cowboys $22.6 million
St. Louis Rams $22.1 million
New Orleans Saints $20.2 million
San Francisco 49ers $20.2 million
Detroit Lions $17.7 million
Seattle Seahawks $17.3 million
New England Patriots $16.9 million
Cincinnati Bengals $16.6 million
Chicago Bears $14.9 million
Buffalo Bills $14.1 million
New York Jets $14 million
Houston Texans $12.7 million
Atlanta Falcons $12.2 million
Denver Broncos $10.9 million
Baltimore Ravens $10.6 million
Carolina Panthers $10.4 million
New York Giants $9.9 million
Kansas City Chiefs $7.3 million
Miami Dolphins $6.3 million
Tennessee Titans $6.2 million
Pittsburgh Steelers $6.1 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $5.1 million
Oakland Raiders $653,000


Over the salary cap
Team Cap status (over)
Indianapolis Colts $5.9 million
Washington Redskins $4.9 million

[Clockwork Orange]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Just a little reminder that Bob was right on and your little hometown hero Adam Schefter was WRONG.


Under the salary cap
Team Cap status (under)

Green Bay Packers $35 million
Minnesota Vikings $30.9 million
Arizona Cardinals $28.9 million
Cleveland Browns $27.1 million
Philadelphia Eagles $26.1 million
San Diego Chargers $24.6 million
Jacksonville Jaguars $23.4 million
Dallas Cowboys $22.6 million
St. Louis Rams $22.1 million
New Orleans Saints $20.2 million
San Francisco 49ers $20.2 million
Detroit Lions $17.7 million
Seattle Seahawks $17.3 million
New England Patriots $16.9 million
Cincinnati Bengals $16.6 million
Chicago Bears $14.9 million
Buffalo Bills $14.1 million
New York Jets $14 million
Houston Texans $12.7 million
Atlanta Falcons $12.2 million
Denver Broncos $10.9 million
Baltimore Ravens $10.6 million
Carolina Panthers $10.4 million
New York Giants $9.9 million
Kansas City Chiefs $7.3 million
Miami Dolphins $6.3 million
Tennessee Titans $6.2 million
Pittsburgh Steelers $6.1 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $5.1 million
Oakland Raiders $653,000


Over the salary cap
Team Cap status (over)
Indianapolis Colts $5.9 million
Washington Redskins $4.9 million


So what limp wristed LB you gonna spend it on this year? Hilarious!

[Crushaholic]

The Peckers are $35 million under the cap? I guess they don't have to force Favre out after all...

[Arkansas Bronco]

what the hell did the raiders do with all their money?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

what the hell did the raiders do with all their money?

Randy Moss - 8.25 million

[Bob's your Information Minister]

So what limp wristed LB you gonna spend it on this year? Hilarious!

Hopefully none of that this year. I am still counting on T.O. though.

We have some of our own guys we need to resign still, too.

[Clockwork Orange]

Hopefully none of that this year. I am still counting on T.O. though.

We have some of our own guys we need to resign still, too.

Funny, before you didn't want Owens because you said he was too old. Are you that terrified of facing him twice a year?

[Kaylore]

Boooooooo.

I hate the Raiders. And I hate Chief fans.

[Jens1893]

give bob a job at espn!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Funny, before you didn't want Owens because you said he was too old. Are you that terrified of facing him twice a year?

Of course.

I've changed my mind, even though I now believe that Denver is no longer a player for Owens.

[DBroncos4life]

Of course.

I've changed my mind, even though I now believe that Denver is no longer a player for Owens.
Why is that?

[broncosteven]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/14061032.htm

Chiefs won’t go shopping despite extra $7.5 millionBy ADAM TEICHERThe Kansas City Star“Unlike some of our former coaches, Herm (Edwards) likes to and will play younger players, including rookies.”
Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson

The Chiefs had an extra $7.5 million of salary-cap room dropped in their laps when the NFL and its players agreed to a last-minute extension of the collective-bargaining agreement.
That extra cap space won’t make the Chiefs major players when the free-agency signing period begins tonight.
“It really doesn’t change our thoughts on free-agency,” president/general manager Carl Peterson said. “We didn’t plan to be much of a player this year no matter what the salary-cap figure was.
“We’re not going to bring anyone in for the first few days. It’s not a priority. We’ll observe who’s out there and let the other teams spend the big dollars.”
The salary-cap increase from $94.5 million to $102 million should give the Chiefs a chance to retain their own free agents. Peterson said the Chiefs would make a stronger effort to re-sign fullback Tony Richardson and defensive tackle Lional Dalton, the two starters among their nine unrestricted free agents.
One option for both players is the one-year veteran minimum contract. Richardson would receive a salary of $810,000, Dalton $710,000, but each would cost the Chiefs only about $400,000 against their salary cap.
“We’ll see if there’s something there that makes sense both for them and for the Chiefs,” Peterson said. “They are guys that played for us and started for us, and we’d like to have them back. It will come down to contracts and salaries, as it usually does.”
Peterson said the Chiefs would try to re-sign some of the players who are heading into the final seasons of their contracts. Three such players are tight end Tony Gonzalez, defensive end Jared Allen and linebacker Kawika Mitchell.
....

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Why is that?

Because of the veterans on your team that don't want him in Denver.

[Atlas]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Just a little reminder that Bob was right on and your little hometown hero Adam Schefter was WRONG.
]

I hate Schefter. The guy is an idiot.

[Raider Bill]

The Raiders clear cap room as they need it.

[Clockwork Orange]

Of course.

I've changed my mind, even though I now believe that Denver is no longer a player for Owens.

Neither is KC. Owens is going to Dallas.

[freak6]

This FA class sucks. They should wait until next year.

[Dagmar]

Because of the veterans on your team that don't want him in Denver.
You're good friends with Rod? Nalen?
Where did you get this tidbit from?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Because of the veterans on your team that don't want him in Denver.

So which ones?

[broncosteven]

Cheefs need to sign their own 1st before they can break the bank on any FA's. They also missed out on one of their 1st Targets at CB in Madison, they will be starting a Rookie there this year. Things already heading south for Sperm Headwards crew.

[Clockwork Orange]

they will be starting a Rookie there this year.

Or worse, Bartee.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Neither is KC. Owens is going to Dallas.

You think the Eagles will trade him within the division?

[eddie mac]

I hate Schefter. The guy is an idiot.

I'd rather have him over any of the 4 idiots who currently write for the team.

[DBroncos4life]

So which ones?
Thats going against what was posted here, but what does that matter. I hope we don't get him but that doesn't change the fact that he is a very good player on the field and Mike knows that.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You're good friends with Rod? Nalen?
Where did you get this tidbit from?

That's already been posted here. I believe one of was Rod Smith, another was Al Wilson. Not sure.

[DBroncos4life]

You think the Eagles will trade him within the division?
Trade? How long do you think they are going to keep him? Doesn't he have a bonus about ready to kick in.

[Clockwork Orange]

You think the Eagles will trade him within the division?

They're not going to trade him, they'll release him. He's due a roster bonus in the next few days (it was pushed back due to the CBA delays) to the tune of something like $6 million. No way in hell they pay him that money. He'll be cut and free to go wherever he chooses. He'll choose Dallas.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

they will be starting a Rookie there this year. Things already heading south for Sperm Headwards crew.

How amusing. Just last year you started not one but TWO rookie corners during the year.

So that's OK for Denver but not KC? How unbiased you are!!!

FYI the odds on favorite to start is Julian Battle. And they may yet still sign someone.

[eddie mac]

You think the Eagles will trade him within the division?

He's getting released Bob, he'll have difficulty getting a decent contract never mind his new employers gving up a pick for him.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

They're not going to trade him, they'll release him. He's due a roster bonus in the next few days (it was pushed back due to the CBA delays) to the tune of something like $6 million. No way in hell they pay him that money. He'll be cut and free to go wherever he chooses. He'll choose Dallas.

I think the Eagles would rather trade him than let him go to the Cowboys.

[Clockwork Orange]

I think the Eagles would rather trade him than let him go to the Cowboys.

They won't pay him the roster bonus. Not only would they have to cut a player they despise a fat check, they'll take the hit for that roster bonus against this years salary cap. Not gonna happen. He'll be released.

[DBroncos4life]

I think the Eagles would rather trade him than let him go to the Cowboys.
lucky for them the teams are just knocking on the door to take him LOL

[Clockwork Orange]

How amusing. Just last year you started not one but TWO rookie corners during the year.

The Broncos didn't start the season with a rookie corner in the starting lineup. Bailey & Walls were the starters and Walls got bumped after Williams and Foxworth outplayed him.

[Kaylore]

The Broncos didn't start the season with a rookie corner in the starting lineup. Bailey & Walls were the starters and Walls got bumped after Williams and Foxworth outplayed him.
PWND

[eddie mac]

Bob you might want to read this

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=rotowire-errellwensnterestayb&prov=rotowire&type=lgns

." Reports have also indicated that the Chiefs are only interested in signing Owens to a bare bones one-year deal. At this point, the market isn't as friendly as Owens and his agent Drew Rosenhaus expected, but the good news for owners is that Owens is less of a fantasy liability with a short-term, incentive laden deal.

[Kaylore]

They won't pay him the roster bonus. Not only would they have to cut a player they despise a fat check, they'll take the hit for that roster bonus against this years salary cap. Not gonna happen. He'll be released.
Why would any team trade a pick for a player they are going to release anyway?

[eddie mac]

Eagles will not have any say where TO ends up.

[Clockwork Orange]

Why would any team trade a pick for a player they are going to release anyway?

Precisely why no one has traded for him. The Eagles have no other option unless they want to take a 6 million dollar cap hit for a player they have no intention of keeping.

[bombquixote]

three things:

1) san diego is ALWAYS 25 million under the cap. maybe if they spent some of that money...

2) Dbroncos4life...your sig pic is freakin' me out, man.

3) thank you, bob, for so consistenly making yourself an easy target.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

PWND

Hardly. My point still stands.

[Clockwork Orange]

My point still stands.

Yes, but if you comb your hair over no one will see it.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Why would any team trade a pick for a player they are going to release anyway?

So they can get him instead of the other team. That's fairly obvious.

The Eagles won't want him going to Dallas. This isn't rocket science.

[Clockwork Orange]

John Clayton just said on Sportscenter that Owens will be released in the middle of next week and he named Denver and Dallas as suitors.

[Raider Bill]

Because the team trading for him will be on the hook for his current contract, which he wasn't happy with in the first place, and includes a 6 million dollar roster bonus a few days from now.

[Clockwork Orange]

So they can get him instead of the other team. That's fairly obvious.

The Eagles won't want him going to Dallas. This isn't rocket science.

By all means, I'd love to see Carl fork over a draft pick for Owens. That would mean that the Chefs would inherit Owens' current contract and would be on the hook for the roster bonus that he's due next week. His cap number for the coming season is over $7 million. Enjoy. Ha!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Because the team trading for him will be on the hook for his current contract, which he wasn't happy with in the first place, and includes a 6 million dollar roster bonus a few days from now.

That's not necessarily true. Last year the Chiefs traded for Surtain and gave him a new contract.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

By all means, I'd love to see Carl fork over a draft pick for Owens. That would mean that the Chefs would inherit Owens' current contract and would be on the hook for the roster bonus that he's due next week. His cap number for the coming season is over $7 million. Enjoy. Ha!

Wrong again. Teams rework the contracts of players they trade for all the time. See above.

[Clockwork Orange]

That's not necessarily true. Last year the Chiefs traded for Surtain and gave him a new contract.

Do it Carl, trade for Owens. You've got a reputation as a laughingstock to maintain. Do it. :laugh:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Do it Carl, trade for Owens. You've got a reputation as a laughingstock to maintain. Do it. :laugh:

Carl's trades have worked out pretty well. Joe Montana, Patrick Surtain...

[Hercules Rockefeller]

John Clayton just said on Sportscenter that Owens will be released in the middle of next week and he named Denver and Dallas as suitors.

But Bob said Denver wasn't interested anymore, I don't understand?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

But Bob said Denver wasn't interested anymore, I don't understand?

If you don't believe me, believe your team's owner.

[Clockwork Orange]

Wrong again. Teams rework the contracts of players they trade for all the time. See above.

My God, this isn't an act, you really are this stupid.

Let me say this slowly for you, retard. No. One. Is. Going. To. Trade. For. Terrell. Owens. He's. Going. To. Be. Released. Only. A. Complete. Fool. Like. Carl. Peterson. Would. Trade. For. A. Player. They. Could. Get. For. Nothing.

But then Carl did use his 4th rounder this year on a 50 year old DB. :laugh:

[Clockwork Orange]

If you don't believe me, believe your team's owner.

Read what Bowlen actually said. He said that they're interest in Owens is the same as any other free agent. Nowhere did he say that the Broncos weren't interested.

[Master___Pain]

If you don't believe me, believe your team's owner.

You been talking with Pat? Give him my regards.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Let me say this slowly for you, retard. No. One. Is. Going. To. Trade. For. Terrell. Owens. He's. Going. To. Be. Released. Only. A. Complete. Fool. Like. Carl. Peterson. Would. Trade. For. A. Player. They. Could. Get. For. Nothing.


That's absolutely not true. Offering a pick for a player ensures that your team and your team alone will get him, and you won't have to compete with other teams once he's a free agent.

[Clockwork Orange]

Carl's trades have worked out pretty well. Joe Montana, Patrick Surtain...

The fact that you had to go all the way back to Montana to find a good trade by Carl speaks volumes.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

The fact that you had to go all the way back to Montana to find a good trade by Carl speaks volumes.

Nah, that's just the only one I can remember.

If you can name one that bombed, go right ahead.

They don't happen very often.

[Clockwork Orange]

That's absolutely not true. Offering a pick for a player ensures that your team and your team alone will get him, and you won't have to compete with other teams once he's a free agent.

You want to place a bet on it? Wanna put your sig on the line?

[Kaylore]

The Eagles won't want him going to Dallas. This isn't rocket science.
I think we all know the Eagle's opinion of Owens. They probably see him as a biological weapon of sorts.

[Clockwork Orange]

Nah, that's just the only one I can remember.

If you can name one that bombed, go right ahead.

They don't happen very often.

I can name several of Carl's moves that have bombed. I'm not familiar with his trade history, but I can give you a laundry list of laughable player moves.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I can name several of Carl's moves that have bombed. I'm not familiar with his trade history, but I can give you a laundry list of laughable player moves.

Moves, yes. Trades, no.

[Master___Pain]

That's absolutely not true. Offering a pick for a player ensures that your team and your team alone will get him, and you won't have to compete with other teams once he's a free agent.

In a general sense you are correct Bob. However, not in the case of TO. AS has been presented to you, oh I don't know, at least a dozen times TO IS GOING TO BE RELEASED Even your main man Carl has said that if TO were to come to KC it would be a one year incentive laden deal. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

The Eagles have had plenty of time to find a suitor via trade. That has not happened, hence TO will be released before the roster bonus money is due.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You want to place a bet on it? Wanna put your sig on the line?

What exactly are we betting on?

[Clockwork Orange]

Actually, Carl should stick to trades since those seem to work out best for him.

I can't believe that you spaced out the Roaf trade.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Even you main man Carl has said that if TO were to come to KC it would be a one year incentive laden deal.
.

Yeah, so? That doesn't mean KC can't trade for him and rework his contract. They did that just LAST YEAR with Surtain.

[Paladin]

Know what? I don't give a flf*ck what the KC Creeps do or don't do. I took about three seconds to read a part of this crap, and it is nothing more than Boob stroking himself over the Creeps. Again.

I can understand why Boob has been banned from the Creeps' sites: he's such a fvcking idiot, no one wants him around.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Actually, Carl should stick to trades since those seem to work out best for him.

I can't believe that you spaced out the Roaf trade.

There you go. Trent Green, too.

CARL PETERSON IS A TRADING GOD.

[Clockwork Orange]

What exactly are we betting on?

Whether Owens is released or traded.

If he's traded, you control my sig for one year. If he's released, I control your sig for one year. Deal?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

The trade up for Sims was brilliant, ditto for giving up a 1st for TrINT and a 2nd for Dick, who led the team to a total of 0 playoff wins.

[Clockwork Orange]

There you go. Trent Green, too.

CARL PETERSON IS A TRADING GOD.

Let's talk about his free agent track record. He manages to balance things out there.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Whether Owens is released or traded.

If he's traded, you control my sig for one year. If he's released, I control your sig for one year. Deal?

Yeah OK.

[Master___Pain]

Yeah, so? That doesn't mean KC can't trade for him and rework his contract. They did that just LAST YEAR with Surtain.

Holy **** you are stupid. Please fill me in on how TO would rework his current long term deal that's ****ty( but would at least have the roster bonus money) to get a ****tier one year incentive laden non-gaurenteed deal?

This should be interesting.....

[Clockwork Orange]

Yeah OK.

Then it's a deal. When he's released next week, I'll let you know what your new sig is.....if you have one at all.

[Raider Bill]

Wrong again. Teams rework the contracts of players they trade for all the time. See above.

Why would Owens limit his potential suitors by being agreeable to a restructure to play in Podunkville, USA?

All he has to do is say "No", the Eagles will be forced to waive him and he'll be an UFA.

[Master___Pain]

Why would Owens limit his potential suitors by being agreeable to a restructure to play in Podunkville, USA?

All he has to do is say "No", the Eagles will be forced to waive him and he'll be an UFA.

According to Bob, it's because Carl is a trade God which impresses TO and Drew a lot.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Holy **** you are stupid. Please fill me in on how TO would rework his current long term deal that's ****ty( but would at least have the roster bonus money) to get a ****tier one year incentive laden non-gaurenteed deal?


Why don't you ask Carl. They did the same thing with Surtain. There is precedent for it. That is all that matters.

[Master___Pain]

Why don't you ask Carl. They did the same thing with Surtain. There is precedent for it. That is all that matters.

So Surtain signed a one year deal?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

So Surtain signed a one year deal?

No, obviously his circumstance was a little different.

TO knows he is only worth a one-year deal because of his history.

[orange crusher]

Wrong again. Teams rework the contracts of players they trade for all the time. See above.

Yes, but this isn't any player. Do you think TO is just going to forget about the 6 million dollar bonus and sign a cap friendly deal. If you don't give him the moon in a new deal, he stands pat and waits to be cut so he can try to get the best deal someone is willing to offer as a free agent.

[Master___Pain]

No, obviously his circumstance was a little different.

TO knows he is only worth a one-year deal because of his history.

So there is not precedent then.

[Master___Pain]

Yes, but this isn't any player. Do you think TO is just going to forget about the 6 million dollar bonus and sign a cap friendly deal. If you don't give him the moon in a new deal, he stands pat and waits to be cut so he can try to get the best deal someone is willing to offer as a free agent.

Yeah, makes sense to most funtcional humans. However, Bob seems to not be able to grasp this.

[Clockwork Orange]

No, obviously his circumstance was a little different.

TO knows he is only worth a one-year deal because of his history.

You can't honestly believe that Owens is going to accept a one year deal.

[Master___Pain]

You can't honestly believe that Owens is going to accept a one year deal.

Well, if it was from the mighty Chiefs I am sure he wouldUhh

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Alright guys, whatever.

It's clear you are all biased as hell and unwilling to accept the notion that T.O. might become a Kansas City Chief.

[Master___Pain]

Alright guys, whatever.

It's clear you are all biased as hell and unwilling to accept the notion that T.O. might become a Kansas City Chief.

No dip ****. We are willing to accept that TO could be Chief, but it's not going to be via trade as you suggested.

[Clockwork Orange]

Alright guys, whatever.

It's clear you are all biased as hell and unwilling to accept the notion that T.O. might become a Kansas City Chief.

Taking the facts into account, it's easy to say that he won't be a Chef.

-He wants to get paid. That's the whole reason he went Terrell Owens on the Eagles. That hasn't changed.

-Carl has already said that he'd only be interested in Owens for a one year, incentive-laden contract.

-Carl has said that the Chefs will likely be quiet in free agency after the spending spree they went on last year.

-There are other teams with more cap space interested in Owens.

But yeah, it's just bias. ::)

[orange crusher]

Alright guys, whatever.

It's clear you are all biased as hell and unwilling to accept the notion that T.O. might become a Kansas City Chief.

I don't think he's going to be traded, forego the $6M bonus that is in his current contract and sign a cap friendly deal with the team he is traded to regardless of who the team is. Even if he knows he is going to have to sign an incentive laden deal, he's going to want to shop around to see who is willing to give him the best deal. The $6M bonus is leverage for him to make sure that he is allowed to shop.

Whether he will make a team better or make it implode, I'm torn.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3130/tokc21gd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Clockwork Orange]

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3130/tokc21gd.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Keep dreaming.

Though Owens may use the Chefs to drive his price up. Won't be the first time that's happened. :laugh:

[eddie mac]

Taking the facts into account, it's easy to say that he won't be a Chef.

-He wants to get paid. That's the whole reason he went Terrell Owens on the Eagles. That hasn't changed.

-Carl has already said that he'd only be interested in Owens for a one year, incentive-laden contract.

-Carl has said that the Chefs will likely be quiet in free agency after the spending spree they went on last year.

-There are other teams with more cap space interested in Owens.

But yeah, it's just bias. ::)

Only Dallas CO, Miami, Tampa and KC have less cap room than us.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Only Dallas CO, Miami, Tampa and KC have less cap room than us.

Dallas has ~$22 million in cap room.

KC has 7.5. Denver 10.

[orange crusher]

Dallas has ~$22 million in cap room.

KC has 7.5. Denver 10.

I think he's saying that only Dallas has more cap room.

[Raider Bill]

Pencil the Raiders in for ~10 million in cap room with the release of Collins

[Clockwork Orange]

Dallas has ~$22 million in cap room.

KC has 7.5. Denver 10.

Denver will pick up $7.6 million in cap space at midnight when Warren's deal voids out. Plus they still have the option of restructuring some of their higher priced players..

So the Broncos will be at around $18.5 million under when free agency officially begins without any restructures.

[eddie mac]

I think he's saying that only Dallas has more cap room.

Thanks OC, even 1 sentence is way over Bob's head.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Denver will pick up $7.6 million in cap space at midnight when Warren's deal voids out. Plus they still have the option of restructuring some of their higher priced players..

So the Broncos will be at around $18.5 million under when free agency officially begins without any restructures.

Apparently the dip-**** retards who are the beat writers for the Denver papers decided to pencil in Warren's savings before his deal actually voided without actually informing their readers.

[Clockwork Orange]

Apparently the dip-**** retards who are the beat writers for the Denver papers decided to pencil in Warren's savings before his deal actually voided without actually informing their readers.

It's amazing that these guys are employed.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Thanks OC, even 1 sentence is way over Bob's head.

Your sentence was poorly worded then.

[eddie mac]

Denver will pick up $7.6 million in cap space at midnight when Warren's deal voids out. Plus they still have the option of restructuring some of their higher priced players..

So the Broncos will be at around $18.5 million under when free agency officially begins without any restructures.

According to Mike Klis it looks like Warren's voided contract is already included in our current cap count. Read this extract from today CO.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3587118

When the free-agent signing period opens Saturday, the Broncos will have roughly $12 million in cap room. Some of that will go toward re-signing four of their potential free agents: Gerard Warren, Keith Burns, Ron Dayne and Mike Leach.

Once those contracts are done, the Broncos will have about $7.5 million to spend on free agents. Virtually all of their spending power came Wednesday night when NFL owners and the players union agreed on a collective bargaining extension that raised the 2006 salary cap from $94.5 million to $102 million.

I'm absolutely raging because of the different stories we've been getting from all 4 Denver sports writers so I've written to Klis to get this clarified once and for all. He better reply.

[Clockwork Orange]

According to Mike Klis it looks like Warren's voided contract is already included in our current cap count. Read this extract from today CO.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3587118

When the free-agent signing period opens Saturday, the Broncos will have roughly $12 million in cap room. Some of that will go toward re-signing four of their potential free agents: Gerard Warren, Keith Burns, Ron Dayne and Mike Leach.

Once those contracts are done, the Broncos will have about $7.5 million to spend on free agents. Virtually all of their spending power came Wednesday night when NFL owners and the players union agreed on a collective bargaining extension that raised the 2006 salary cap from $94.5 million to $102 million.

I'm absolutely raging because of the different stories we've been getting from all 4 Denver sports writers so I've written to Klis to get this clarified once and for all. He better reply.

That's bull****.

He apparently ignored the $1 million saved when Lepsis re-signed and the $3 million saved when Courtney Brown restructured. They were reportedly $900,000 under before any of that happened, so someone isn't getting their math right.

[eddie mac]

Apparently the dip-**** retards who are the beat writers for the Denver papers decided to pencil in Warren's savings before his deal actually voided without actually informing their readers.

I've just e-mailed Klis because of the differing reports from himself and Williamson.

Here's the mail.

Hi Mike

Little worried though about conflicting posts from yourself and Bill Williamson .

Here's an extract from your piece today.

When the free-agent signing period opens Saturday, the Broncos will have roughly $12 million in cap room. Some of that will go toward re-signing four of their potential free agents: Gerard Warren, Keith Burns, Ron Dayne and Mike Leach.
Once those contracts are done, the Broncos will have about $7.5 million to spend on free agents. Virtually all of their spending power came Wednesday night when NFL owners and the players union agreed on a collective bargaining extension that raised the 2006 salary cap from $94.5 million to $102 million.
And here's a bit from Bill prior to Courtney Brown restructuring

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_3525155

Much of the front-office time is being spent on restructuring of veterans' contracts to help the team erase more than $20 million in salary cap overage. About half the extra cap space is in voided contracts.
I presume he meant Engelberger and Warren's deals as Nalen had already re-signed.

So in reality we were $10m over at that point.

Then we did the following, Lynch saved $1.5m, Brown saved $2.5m, the 3 big cuts saved $15m, Lepsis saved $1m and the CBA gave us $7.5m, Ekuban saved 600k and Engelberger cost us $1.3m

I make us $17m under the cap or thereabouts, not $12m as you're stating or even $10.9m according to Clayton's newest figures ESPN.


Can you or Bill please clarify whether Gerard Warren's deal has voided yet and more importantly has the $7.7m savings been included in your's or Bill's cap estimates of close to $12m under the cap.

I'd appreciate a reply if possible but realise that you guys are real busy this time of year with the delayed free agency period just hours away.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

BW gave me $11.8M under today. Of course I had multiple questions and he pretty much answered none of them.

[eddie mac]

That's bull****.

He apparently ignored the $1 million saved when Lepsis re-signed and the $3 million saved when Courtney Brown restructured. They were reportedly $900,000 under before any of that happened, so someone isn't getting their math right.

He is counting those CO, it's the $7.7m from Warren we're worried about. I think these a-holes have led us a merry dance, they're not the only ones though because the RMN writers Legwold and Raszier are just as guilty.

Both papers quoted Denver as $20 million over a $92m cap and both stated approx 1/2 that $20m was in voided deals (Warren and Engelberger, at that point the only contract we'd done was Nalen's.

[eddie mac]

get these dicks sacked right now.

[eddie mac]

BW gave me $11.8M under today. Of course I had multiple questions and he pretty much answered none of them.

Well if that's the case, Mike will be calling Jake, Champ and Al shortly. For the 1st time in years I actually thought we wouldn't have to push a lot of money back.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Both papers quoted Denver as $20 million over a $92m cap and both stated approx 1/2 that $20m was in voided deals (Warren and Engelberger, at that point the only contract we'd done was Nalen's.

and the $15M saved from the cuts should put them to $85M.

Like I said earlier, they've got $47+M in base salaries, and if they're at $91M they've got $44M tied up in a lot of bonuses because they don't have much dead cap room.

[Clockwork Orange]

Both papers quoted Denver as $20 million over a $92m cap and both stated approx 1/2 that $20m was in voided deals (Warren and Engelberger, at that point the only contract we'd done was Nalen's.

OK, that would have them at $112 million. The Broncos shaved off $14 million when they cut Pryce, Anderson & Putzier. That should have put them at $98 million. Then they re-signed Lepsis to save another $1 million. That's $97 million. Then Brown restructured. That saved another $3 million. That puts them at $94 million.

So how much are they under after the voided contracts?

[eddie mac]

Hard to believe that both papers fvcked up unless one was copying the other.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Hard to believe that both papers fvcked up unless one was copying the other.

or they're using the same crap source

[Bob's your Information Minister]

get these dicks sucked right now.

You don't have to be so mean about it.

[Clockwork Orange]

You don't have to be so mean about it.

Notice how Bob instinctually gravitates toward the penis reference?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

You don't have to be so mean about it.

Only you would change a post to make it say that

[eddie mac]

OK, that would have them at $112 million. The Broncos shaved off $14 million when they cut Pryce, Anderson & Putzier. That should have put them at $98 million. Then they re-signed Lepsis to save another $1 million. That's $97 million. Then Brown restructured. That saved another $3 million. That puts them at $94 million.

So how much are they under after the voided contracts?

According to their posts at the time which we now know are wrong it went as follows.

Payroll $112m $20m over a $92m cap

Lynch extended saved $1.5m
Ekuban added a year saved 600k
Brown restructured saved $2.5m
Lepsis re-signed saved $1m
3 Cuts saved $15m
2 Voided deals saved $10m

Total Payroll = $81.4m

Engelberger re-signed cost $1.1m ($1.4m minus $300k for 52nd player on roster

Total Payroll $82.5m

$19.5m under $102m salary cap.

That's where we lost the $7.7m somewhere along the line both papers fed us wrong info and I bet it was when they both quoted $20m over with 1/2 of that in voided deals.

Furthermore Williamson actually stated about 1 week ago prior to Courtney's new deal this

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_3563870

Lepsis' new deal saves Denver about $1 million against the salary cap, putting the team about $2 million under, but it can get more relief with the finalization of a new agreement for defensive end Courtney Brown and possibly with Warren.

How the fvck can we save money on a deal for the latter if his deal has already voided and Bill and Mike have included it in their cap estimates???

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Only you would change a post to make it say that

Meh, whatever. All of you guys would have done the same to me.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/844/tokc33ss.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Clockwork Orange]

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/844/tokc33ss.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

While you're at it, you should photoshop some Chef players holding the Lombardi Trophy. It's probably the only way you'll ever see that either.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

While you're at it, you should photoshop some Chef players holding the Lombardi Trophy. It's probably the only way you'll ever see that either.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8011/screen00804ib.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[SoCalBronco]

Notice how Bob instinctually gravitates toward the penis reference?

Rep Ha!

[Clockwork Orange]

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8011/screen00804ib.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I stand corrected. Photoshop and Madden are the only ways you'll ever see that. Feel better?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

What's even better is that is Oakland Coliseum.

[eddie mac]

I stand corrected. Photoshop and Madden are the only ways you'll ever see that. Feel better?

If he could see his own knob maybe he wouldn't have to make reference to everyone elses.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

If he could see his own knob maybe he wouldn't have to make reference to everyone elses.

Shut up, fool. Why don't you tell me again about the Chiefs not having any cap space. ROFL!

[Clockwork Orange]

What's even better is that is Oakland Coliseum.

What's even better than that is that coach doesn't look like Dick ForMeals or Herm.Ha!

[DBroncos4life]

I think every time bob starts acting up someone should post his pic in that thread. That seems to shut him up. :~ohyah!:

[eddie mac]

Shut up, fool. Why don't you tell me again about the Chiefs not having any cap space. ROFL!

At the time of my post you were over the cap. The restructures must have only been filed with NFLPA yesterday. Doesn't matter anyway considering your GM says you'll be quiet this offseason shame he doesn't have the power to shut you up!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

At the time of my post you were over the cap.!

According to NFL Network only. Their info was incorrect.