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Taco John
03-09-2006, 03:31 AM
NFL deal boosts Warren's hope

Broncos tackle aims to stay; salary-cap increase could help
By Lee Rasizer, Rocky Mountain News
March 9, 2006
Gerard Warren is planning a meeting today with his agent.
The defensive tackle's message will be much the same as the one he's been saying all along: Get a deal done with the Broncos.

Yet NFL labor peace reached Wednesday night might finally assure that can occur - and quickly, too.

"I'm trying to stay in Denver, Colorado," said Warren, who's scheduled to hit the open market at 10:01 p.m. MST Friday. "I'm not really trying to look into free agency. What we had was beautiful there, man."

In Warren's case, the new collective-bargaining agreement stirred the same type of warm and fuzzy thoughts.

The labor deal loosens restrictions regarding the way contracts are structured, allowing for a longer proration period on bonuses, and puts about $7.5 million more of salary-cap space in the pockets of teams for 2006.

That helps a team such as the Broncos, who stood only about $4.3 million under a salary cap had labor talks gone awry. That limited space under what could have been a $94.5 million cap would have been enough for draft picks and a couple minor deals, yet left little wiggle room without cutting players or reworking contracts to afford a deal like the one Warren is expected to command, and perhaps couldn't have happened at all.

"It's taken a lot of stress off my shoulders," Warren said not long after the owners approved the extension through 2011.

The defensive tackle had been been going through various scenarios with Joel Segal, his representative, in recent weeks given the labor uncertainty.

Lingering questions about whether a fair deal could be structured for Warren without a new CBA in place remained. The player's answer to Segal was always that there would be a way to adjust somehow but having a labor extension would take much of the ambiguity out of negotiations.

Had the sides broken off talks without an accord, "It was pretty much going to change the basis of the contract that was going to be structured on my behalf," Warren said.

"Now, it gives me a sense of my dollar value and the kind of contract I can negotiate" with the Broncos.

But Warren sees another side benefit, other than personally.

It will allow coach Mike Shanahan more room financially "to actually bring in other players that are going to get us to the Super Bowl next year."

The Broncos made keeping their own pending free agents a top priority this off-season and already have retained center Tom Nalen, left tackle Matt Lepsis, defensive end John Engelberger and safety Sam Brandon. Three players were cut, saving nearly $15 million in salary- cap space, and others restructured to provide more room.

The team still is attempting to work out deals with long-snapper Mike Leach, running back Ron Dayne and linebacker Keith Burns, but Warren is the only full-time starter without a contract next season. He had 42 total tackles last season along with three sacks in his only season with the Broncos after a trade from the Cleveland Browns.

Should Warren opt for free agency, he likely would get serious attention because the defensive tackle group is considered thin.

But the chance to stay with the Broncos is more alluring.

"Coach Shanahan has a successful plan. We were one game away from the Super Bowl," Warren said. "And I don't see this team having to rebuild like we did every year in Cleveland. We're competitive every year."

Warren kept his residence in Colorado, expecting to get another deal done with the Broncos. He might need to use it in the next couple days.

"I'm ready to get on a plane," he said about returning to possibly complete negotiations. "I'm excited."


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4526965,00.html

eddie mac
03-09-2006, 03:42 AM
Get it signed today.

fontaine
03-09-2006, 04:16 AM
He's right about one thing.

There are PLENTY or teams out there that are poor against the run with tons of cap space that would throw big money at him without a second thought come Friday!

It's good to see Warren, once again, publicly confirm that he wants to stay in Denver and that's something he's said all along.

Eddie Mac, any signing bonus would be prorated over five years under the new CBA so signing Warren to a new deal, say with an 6-7 million signing bonus would further put us under the cap by another few million since Warren's current cap charge is way high?

eddie mac
03-09-2006, 04:28 AM
He's right about one thing.

There are PLENTY or teams out there that are poor against the run with tons of cap space that would throw big money at him without a second thought come Friday!

It's good to see Warren, once again, publicly confirm that he wants to stay in Denver and that's something he's said all along.

Eddie Mac, any signing bonus would be prorated over five years under the new CBA so signing Warren to a new deal, say with an 6-7 million signing bonus would further put us under the cap by another few million since Warren's current cap charge is way high?

Should do bro, the only thing I see hindering this is if there was a cash over cap rule of 2% in the new CBA. If Denver do Warren's deal the same as they did Champs, Ian Gold's, Hamilton's etc and we give him a $10m signing bonus we're talking a cap hit of around $3m this year, so if we re-sign him to a deal like that we'd still have $17m for free agency and the draft.

fontaine
03-09-2006, 04:42 AM
Should do bro, the only thing I see hindering this is if there was a cash over cap rule of 2% in the new CBA. If Denver do Warren's deal the same as they did Champs, Ian Gold's, Hamilton's etc and we give him a $10m signing bonus we're talking a cap hit of around $3m this year, so if we re-sign him to a deal like that we'd still have $17m for free agency and the draft.

That's crazy money!

Last year Pat Williams received a $6million SB and Jason Ferguson got around $10million SB from the Cowboys.

I think Warren is somewhere in between that and more towards the lower end.

Drek
03-09-2006, 04:48 AM
Wow, the quotes in that article really show off how much Warren has changed in his short time here. Sounds like success on the field both personally and as a team have finally taken center stage for Gerard. Given his size and talent I can only assume that it'll lead to good things where ever he plays, hopefully in Denver.

watermock
03-09-2006, 05:58 AM
Something around 7-8 million SB would be a steal IMO. He was a good citizen and likes Denver, something that can't be overstated about our fine franchise. I'm almost positive we will git er done with Warren quickly if we really want him back.

RMT
03-09-2006, 06:01 AM
One thing on that same webpage I'm not in favor of is throwing a 1st round pick to the Jets in exchange for Abraham ... :(

Keep the pick and get some more youth on the team.

Smiling Assassin27
03-09-2006, 08:19 AM
Another article also said that with the new space, the Broncos will make a run at Abraham. This defensive line could be even better than last year with CBrown having a full off season to train and Abraham on the other end.

Rascal
03-09-2006, 08:25 AM
So we are at 12 mil right now, what will it go too if Warren is not resigned?

eddie mac
03-09-2006, 08:28 AM
So we are at 12 mil right now, what will it go too if Warren is not resigned?

$20 million.

baja
03-09-2006, 08:30 AM
Wow, the quotes in that article really show off how much Warren has changed in his short time here. Sounds like success on the field both personally and as a team have finally taken center stage for Gerard. Given his size and talent I can only assume that it'll lead to good things where ever he plays, hopefully in Denver.

Gotta think locker room leadership has had this effect on guys like Warren and Brown so this presents the big risk we take if we bring in a guy like TO. Our current great locker room is fragile and one guy like TO could upset the apple cart.

baja
03-09-2006, 08:32 AM
$20 million.

Wow he counts 8 mil now I thought he is a UFA?

watermock
03-09-2006, 08:35 AM
Warren will be redone completely and free up at least some room.

Sodak
03-09-2006, 09:16 AM
One thing on that same webpage I'm not in favor of is throwing a 1st round pick to the Jets in exchange for Abraham ... :(

Keep the pick and get some more youth on the team.

Can we really afford to develop young raw talent? I would prefer someone who can come in and make an impact immediately. Whether through the draft (most likely a high pick) or free agency. The window of opportunity closes quickly.

eddie mac
03-09-2006, 09:45 AM
Wow he counts 8 mil now I thought he is a UFA?

His deal doesn't void until the 1st day of free agency.

Kaylore
03-09-2006, 04:11 PM
Well I hope we sign him. I think he's worth a large contract. That interior push made a huge difference.

Garcia Bronco
03-09-2006, 04:24 PM
Can we really afford to develop young raw talent? I would prefer someone who can come in and make an impact immediately. Whether through the draft (most likely a high pick) or free agency. The window of opportunity closes quickly.


Coming within a game of it all...I bet Coach Shanahan thinks we're close...he might take more risk this off-season in FA.

SoCalBronco
03-09-2006, 10:17 PM
"Coach Shanahan has a successful plan. We were one game away from the Super Bowl," Warren said. "And I don't see this team having to rebuild like we did every year in Cleveland. We're competitive every year."



Damn, even the players are enamored with...."The Plan".

We really, really need to have a smilie for that word.

Clockwork Orange
03-09-2006, 10:23 PM
But Warren sees another side benefit, other than personally.

It will allow coach Mike Shanahan more room financially "to actually bring in other players that are going to get us to the Super Bowl next year."

I like where his head is. :yep:

watermock
03-09-2006, 10:24 PM
The Plan might of been born by Sundy, but we have made it an Icon. Funny thing is, they never really seem to have one, he's doing a good job but it's like riding the surf.

watermock
03-09-2006, 10:29 PM
When your a FA and hear things like "winner, first class organization" it helps.

We don't have the team headquarters under an overpass...good to hear Warren seems ready to make a reasonable deal. I anticipate both Dayne and Warren will be handled very soon and then we turn to FA with around 18 M in cap space.

Billy Clyde Puckett
03-10-2006, 05:41 AM
I like where his head is. :yep:


Me too. That is why I am concerned about bringing in some of theses guys who have a history of diverting that focus.

Elway777
03-10-2006, 06:07 AM
The article is wrong because Warren only had 19 total tackles , I still want Warren back and would offer him about 6 year 33 million with 8 million signing bonus.

elsid13
03-10-2006, 06:11 AM
Nugget from today RMN, that there have been signficate talk the last two days between Warren's agent and the front office.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4530561,00.html

fontaine
03-10-2006, 06:15 AM
Nugget from today RMN, that there have been signficate talk the last two days between Warren's agent and the front office.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4530561,00.html


Man I really hope this doesn't turn into IHOP II if he does sign because it'll be for top dollar.

elsid13
03-10-2006, 06:20 AM
Man I really hope this doesn't turn into IHOP II if he does sign because it'll be for top dollar.

IHOP was disaster for long time in his career- Miami released him remember. Warren hasn't shown that idiocy. In fact yesterday papers had sound like he was telling his agent to stop f'ing around and get deal done. I think the hold up was CBA. With new CBA, Denver has longer time frame to stretch out the deal.

fontaine
03-10-2006, 08:31 AM
IHOP was disaster for long time in his career- Miami released him remember. Warren hasn't shown that idiocy. In fact yesterday papers had sound like he was telling his agent to stop f'ing around and get deal done. I think the hold up was CBA. With new CBA, Denver has longer time frame to stretch out the deal.


I think the new CBA allows the signing bonus to be only spread over 5 years.

clint7
03-10-2006, 05:23 PM
I sure wish I'd see some news about Warren re-signing.

meangene
03-10-2006, 05:29 PM
Schafter said on NFL Network Warren should be signed by Saturday.

clint7
03-10-2006, 05:32 PM
Schafter said on NFL Network Warren should be signed by Saturday.

Signed by the Broncos, I hope. ;)