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epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 09:26 PM
...have turned into political grandstanding. Does anyone really take this stuff seriously?

I used to love going to the movies. At some point in the last 4-5 years, it became cumbersome because every movie I saw had some social agenda attached to it. Needless to say, I dont go much anymore.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-05-2006, 09:27 PM
Didn't know the Oscars were tonight

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 09:29 PM
Didn't know the Oscars were tonight

I just found it on TV. It looks like it just ended...

watermock
03-05-2006, 09:30 PM
I bet the Homo Cowboys got a few.

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:30 PM
I thought they were Tuesday, not that I care enough to pay attention...did the queer movie win everything?

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:32 PM
I thought they were Tuesday, not that I care enough to pay attention...did the queer movie win everything?
Nope.. Just Best Director and some technicals.. Crash won best pic..

baja
03-05-2006, 09:32 PM
...have turned into political grandstanding. Does anyone really take this stuff seriously?

I used to love going to the movies. At some point in the last 4-5 years, it became cumbersome because every movie I saw had some social agenda attached to it. Needless to say, I dont go much anymore.

I watched the whole show there was not one political reference, what the hell are you talking bout...

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:32 PM
whats crash?

Clockwork Orange
03-05-2006, 09:32 PM
I bet the Homo Cowboys got a few.

Troy Aikman was in a movie?

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:33 PM
Troy Aikman was in a movie?
Hilarious!

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 09:33 PM
Cinderella man got jobbed and should have been nominated for quite a few.

Memoirs of a Geisha, while not the most exciting movie ever made, is one of the most beautifully I've seen (and I'm a film student). Appropriately they won for many of the art department awards, so I was happy.

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:34 PM
whats crash?
Ensemble movie w/ a racism theme.. Pretty good actually..

Sassy
03-05-2006, 09:34 PM
I saw Reese Witherspoon won for Walk The Line...other than that and Crash, I missed the rest of it.

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:34 PM
I watched the whole show there was not one political reference, what the hell are you talking bout...


we could go on and on. Most movies nowadays have a leftist political agenda that they try to force down our throats.

baja
03-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Best actor went to George W Bush for impersonating a president.

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:35 PM
I saw Reese Witherspoon won for Walk The Line...other than that and Crash, I missed the rest of it.


Nice to see they got that right...did Rokin Phoenix win best actor?

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:35 PM
we could go on and on. Most movies nowadays have a leftist political agenda that they try to force down our throats.
Clooney did win Best Supporting Liberal Activist.. I mean Actor! :clown:

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:37 PM
Nice to see they got that right...did Rokin Phoenix win best actor?
Nope.. Gay guy from Capote..

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:37 PM
Nope.. Gay guy from Capote..


Figures

dakranker
03-05-2006, 09:37 PM
I bet the Homo Cowboys got a few.

I thought they were Tuesday, not that I care enough to pay attention...did the queer movie win everything?

Nope.. Gay guy from Capote..

Im not scared of queers, I just dont like em.



I’m glad to see we have a strong homophobic contingent on this board.

Sassy
03-05-2006, 09:38 PM
Did Joaquin Phoenix win for his role as Cash?
Oops...just saw it...sorry.
He did an excellent job. He should have won.

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:38 PM
I’m glad to see we have a strong homophobic contingent on this board.


Im not scared of queers, I just dont like em.

baja
03-05-2006, 09:39 PM
I’m glad to see we have a strong homophobic contingent on this board.

No kidding....

Billy Clyde Puckett
03-05-2006, 09:39 PM
Nope.. Gay guy from Capote..

The actor is not gay, but Capote was.

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Im not scared of queers, I just dont like em.
I was waiting for someone to say something like that.. :giggle:

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Im not scared of queers, I just dont like em.
LOL Well glad you settled that issue.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Did Joaquin Phoenix win for his role as Cash?
Oops...just saw it...sorry.
He did an excellent job. He should have won.

I havent seen the flick, but I heard that he sang the tunes in studio for that movie. Johnny Cash Karaoke if you will. He sounded quite authentic.

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:41 PM
The actor is not gay, but Capote was.
Are you sure?! Hoffman seems to play gay quite a bit..

baja
03-05-2006, 09:41 PM
Im not scared of queers, I just dont like em.

A little know correlation is men who have pythons for pets are latent homosexuals.

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:42 PM
Let me rephrase that. I don't like what they do.

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 09:42 PM
I havent seen the flick, but I heard that he sang the tunes in studio for that movie. Johnny Cash Karaoke if you will. He sounded quite authentic.
Phoenix is surprisingly under-hyped for all the incredible work he's done. His nomination is a good step in the right direction for him getting the recognition he deserves.

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:43 PM
I havent seen the flick, but I heard that he sang the tunes in studio for that movie. Johnny Cash Karaoke if you will. He sounded quite authentic.
Just saw it the other night! Great movie and good singing from the actors as well.. John Stewart had 1 or 2 good lines tonight. "..Anyone see Walk the Line? It's just Ray with a white cast.." :giggle:

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 09:43 PM
Are you sure?! Hoffman seems to play gay quite a bit..
I can think of this film and Boogie Nights. Two is not quite a bit unless I'm missing some.

Wes Mantooth
03-05-2006, 09:43 PM
These guys?

Sassy
03-05-2006, 09:43 PM
I havent seen the flick, but I heard that he sang the tunes in studio for that movie. Johnny Cash Karaoke if you will. He sounded quite authentic.
Reese Witherspoon also sang as June Carter. They both deserved to win, IMO.

He wasn't just acting as Cash...he was Cash...someone else said it on a movie thread...and I thought the same thing.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 09:44 PM
Phoenix is surprisingly under-hyped for all the incredible work he's done. His nomination is a good step in the right direction for him getting the recognition he deserves.

Yeah...I've been impressed with nearly every movie he's done and he's been a huge part of why I enjoyed those films. He was immense in Gladiator, and he created a great authentic character in Signs.

baja
03-05-2006, 09:44 PM
Phoenix is surprisingly under-hyped for all the incredible work he's done. His nomination is a good step in the right direction for him getting the recognition he deserves.

You're right he is a terrific actor and he should have won supporting actor in Gladiator.

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:45 PM
Phoenix is surprisingly under-hyped for all the incredible work he's done. His nomination is a good step in the right direction for him getting the recognition he deserves.


I agree. i thought one of his best roles was Gladiator, based solely on the fact that I just friggin hated him in that one. Walk the Line was his best job ever though, IMO.

Clockwork Orange
03-05-2006, 09:45 PM
I can think of this film and Boogie Nights. Two is not quite a bit unless I'm missing some.

He played a sexual deviant in the move Happiness but it's OK, he was into women. :thumbs:

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:45 PM
I can think of this film and Boogie Nights. Two is not quite a bit unless I'm missing some.
There was at least one more.. The flick with him and DeNiro as neighbors in some NY building.. Hoffman was a cross-dresser in that one..

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:46 PM
He played a sexual deviant in the move Happiness but it's OK, he was into women. :thumbs:
I think that's the one!

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:47 PM
I think that's the one!


As long as he was into women, im cool with it.

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:48 PM
As long as he was into women, im cool with it.
I'm pretty sure he at least smoked pole in that one too... J/K :rofl:

baja
03-05-2006, 09:50 PM
As long as he was into women, im cool with it.

I bet you dream of being with a man and that's why you over react.

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:51 PM
I bet you dream of being with a man and that's why you over react.


Yeah thats it.

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:51 PM
I bet you dream of being with a man and that's why you over react.
Why are you so defensive about this?! ;D

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
03-05-2006, 09:51 PM
I watched the whole show there was not one political reference, what the hell are you talking bout...


Are you kidding me the first thing out of G Clooney's mouth was some BS about how great the "Acadamy" was this great instatution of social thinking. And how long was it between Best actor oscars that went to a black actor? And how many black actress how won the oscar besides Halley Barry?

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 09:52 PM
Phillip Seymour Hoffman is also an excellent actor. I haven't seen some of the actor's performances that he beat out for the Oscar but I don't doubt he probably deserved to win. He's an actor that is unattractive and yet has managed to find solid work that isn't excessively "character acting" which most "ugly" actors have to take to compensate. That he beat out the other prettier faces really surprises me - It's a step in the right direction.

Billy Clyde Puckett
03-05-2006, 09:52 PM
Are you sure?! Hoffman seems to play gay quite a bit..

Well anything is possible, but he has a wife and two kids.

I haven't seen any of these movies, but I am interested in seeing Capote only because it was about his writing of In Cold Blood - great book

Mtbrncofn
03-05-2006, 09:52 PM
Yeah...I've been impressed with nearly every movie he's done and he's been a huge part of why I enjoyed those films. He was immense in Gladiator, and he created a great authentic character in Signs.


Same here. I've always loved him. He's run the whole gambit as an actor and I really enjoyed all of it. I had high hopes for him. He was absolutely great in Signs...the best part of the movie, IMO. I'm not an alien/sci fi movie kind of person, but his part in it actually made me like the movie.

Edskins_RVA
03-05-2006, 09:53 PM
Phillip Seymour Hoffman is also an excellent actor. I haven't seen some of the actor's performances that he beat out for the Oscar but I don't doubt he probably deserved to win. He's an actor that is unattractive and yet has managed to find solid work that isn't excessively "character acting" which most "ugly" actors have to take to compensate. That he beat out the other prettier faces really surprises me - It's a step in the right direction.
I totally agree! I was just razzin' him and trying to fit into the "theme" of the night..

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 09:54 PM
Same here. I've always loved him. He's run the whole gambit as an actor and I really enjoyed all of it. I had high hopes for him.
You're speaking like he's dead! A nomination is huge and only guarantees he's going to get many more larger roles. Rest assured, we'll see more Joaquin.

dakranker
03-05-2006, 09:56 PM
As long as he was into women, im cool with it.

“He played a sexual deviant.” Rapists are into woman are you cool with that?

Breck Bronc
03-05-2006, 09:57 PM
He played a sexual deviant in the move Happiness but it's OK, he was into women. :thumbs:He had quite the interesting method of hanging things on his wall. Ewwwww. That was a disturbing movie, though it was good, too.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 09:57 PM
Same here. I've always loved him. He's run the whole gambit as an actor and I really enjoyed all of it. I had high hopes for him. He was absolutely great in Signs...the best part of the movie, IMO. I'm not an alien/sci fi movie kind of person, but his part in it actually made me like the movie.

Signs was a relationships movie. It was about people. The aliens were really a small part of what was great about the move. Gibson is a fantastic actor, and his/Phoenix's/the child's interplay made that movie.

spdirty
03-05-2006, 09:59 PM
“He played a sexual deviant.” Rapists are into woman are you cool with that?

No...didnt know anything about the movie. When someone says "sexual deviant" I think "has a ton of sex with lots of women," not rape.

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 09:59 PM
Signs was a relationships movie. It was about people. The aliens were really a small part of what was great about the move. Gibson is a fantastic actor, and his/Phoenix's/the child's interplay made that movie.
It was about relationships, but it was mainly a film about faith. One of the best and most stealthed religious movies out there. Too bad half the audiences missed the point.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 10:00 PM
It was about relationships, but it was mainly a film about faith. One of the best and most stealthed religious movies out there. Too bad half the audiences missed the point.

Yeah, you're right. I didnt want to bring that up because I was certained that I would be attacked on the thread.

Big time faith movie. Very well done.

Mtbrncofn
03-05-2006, 10:01 PM
You're speaking like he's dead! A nomination is huge and only guarantees he's going to get many more larger roles. Rest assured, we'll see more Joaquin.


Well his bid for an Oscar is!

I also hope he can stay sober. I know he checked himself into rehab not too long ago. I remember being so disappointed when I had read that he had a problem with alcohol. Very cool of him to get himself help though. Seems like the whole rehab thing doesn't miss too many actors.

Breck Bronc
03-05-2006, 10:02 PM
Are you sure?! Hoffman seems to play gay quite a bit..Hoffman has one child, Cooper Alexander, with girlfriend Mimi O´Donnell. Of course, Tom Cruise supposedly impregnated Katie Holmes, so you never know, but I think Hoffman is straight.

Mtbrncofn
03-05-2006, 10:03 PM
It was about relationships, but it was mainly a film about faith. One of the best and most stealthed religious movies out there. Too bad half the audiences missed the point.


I was going to say it too, but things go down the crapper fast when you throw religion into the mix around here.

My favorite part of the movie is when he ( Joaquin ) is sitting on the bed with the kids and they all have their tin foil hats on. Just the look on his face.....

Crushaholic
03-05-2006, 10:03 PM
I also hope he can stay sober. I know he checked himself into rehab not too long ago. I remember being so disappointed when I had read that he had a problem with alcohol. Very cool of him to get himself help though. Seems like the whole rehab thing doesn't miss too many actors.

If that's true (I honestly don't know), it would explain how he was able to depict the horrors of addiction so well. He did a great job in that movie, and I was glad Reese took home the Oscar.

Mtbrncofn
03-05-2006, 10:06 PM
Did you guys see him in Quills? That was quite the movie.

Breck Bronc
03-05-2006, 10:07 PM
Well his bid for an Oscar is!

I also hope he can stay sober. I know he checked himself into rehab not too long ago. I remember being so disappointed when I had read that he had a problem with alcohol. Very cool of him to get himself help though. Seems like the whole rehab thing doesn't miss too many actors.His brother was incredibly talented. In the past few months I've watched movies like Stand By Me, My Own Private Idaho, Running on Empty, the opening to Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade and remembered how great River Phoenix was. It's too bad he died so young.

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 10:08 PM
Well his bid for an Oscar is!

I also hope he can stay sober. I know he checked himself into rehab not too long ago. I remember being so disappointed when I had read that he had a problem with alcohol. Very cool of him to get himself help though. Seems like the whole rehab thing doesn't miss too many actors.
Acting is an emotionally demanding profession. In the movie industry your value is based on your popularity which comes and goes. Some of the acting methods actors use to bring themselves to the emotional position they need to be can be permanently psycologically damaging. Now remember that certain scenes require an actor come to an emotional Zenith again and again. Couple that with a general inability for people to deal with success (there are no classes on dealing with fame) and its a recipe for disaster. The same thing happens to a lot musicians.

I often wonder if the movie industry wouldn't benifit from the kind of educational programs that the NFL have to teach players how to manage their money and organize their life. It probably would help.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 10:09 PM
His brother was incredibly talented. In the past few months I've watched movies like Stand By Me, My Own Private Idaho, Running on Empty, the opening to Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade and remembered how great River Phoenix was. It's too bad he died so young.

Stand By Me...I have seen that move a billion times, and can still watch it without getting bored.

Clockwork Orange
03-05-2006, 10:09 PM
He had quite the interesting method of hanging things on his wall. Ewwwww. That was a disturbing movie, though it was good, too.

Yes, quite the decorator he was. ;D

Strangely enough he wasn't the most depraved SOB in the movie. Good flick but some very unsettling elements to it.

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 10:10 PM
I was going to say it too, but things go down the crapper fast when you throw religion into the mix around here.

My favorite part of the movie is when he ( Joaquin ) is sitting on the bed with the kids and they all have their tin foil hats on. Just the look on his face.....
I like the dinner scene. When they all start crying, it's hilarious.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 10:11 PM
I often wonder if the movie industry wouldn't benifit from the kind of educational programs that the NFL have to teach players how to manage their money and organize their life. It probably would help.

Then someone would have to foot the bill and give their competitors an edge. Socialism isnt as cool when it dips into your discretionary income.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 10:12 PM
I like the dinner scene. When they all start crying, it's hilarious.

I like the one where Gibson finds them in the closet under the stairs watching TV with the foil hats on!

Breck Bronc
03-05-2006, 10:14 PM
Yes, quite the decorator he was. ;D

Strangely enough he wasn't the most depraved SOB in the movie. Good flick but some very unsettling elements to it.http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/summer1998/images/happiness.jpg

Mtbrncofn
03-05-2006, 10:14 PM
I like the one where Gibson finds them in the closet under the stairs watching TV with the foil hats on!


That's the one I meant!

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 10:14 PM
Then someone would have to foot the bill and give their competitors an edge. Socialism isnt as cool when it dips into your discretionary income.
Not really. SAG has enough money and could easily foot the bill. They would never do it, though.

Mtbrncofn
03-05-2006, 10:16 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=666059

Joaquin Phoenix has checked into a rehabilitation facility to deal with alcohol abuse problems. "He was uncomfortable with the way that he was living his life and found the courage to deal with his disease," publicist Susan Patricola said in a statement Tuesday.


I think that part is very cool.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 10:18 PM
Not really. SAG has enough money and could easily foot the bill. They would never do it, though.

Why wouldnt they?

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Why wouldnt they?
A lot of reasons. i don't want to derail the thread. Mostly because lieka lot of unions they would rather spend money on political campaigns and lobbyists to try and push legislation. Most unions these days exist as a medium to put money into the political process ensure their own existance. There isn't anything wrong with that on it's surface, but directily serving constituents with programs like that aren't too common. It would be great for actors who have a lot of money AND for the majority who have very little.

Crushaholic
03-05-2006, 10:35 PM
I loved the look on the faces of the makers of "Crash". I think they were genuinely not expecting to win. If you listen to the "experts", the cowboy movie was supposed to run away with best picture...

Breck Bronc
03-05-2006, 10:38 PM
Did anyone else notice Tom Hanks cursing out Jon Stewart when he was walking out to present the Best Picture category? Maybe I'm going crazy, I don't know.

ludo21
03-05-2006, 10:39 PM
Did anyone else notice Tom Hanks cursing out Jon Stewart when he was walking out to present the Best Picture category? Maybe I'm going crazy, I don't know.


ROFL!

i said the same exact thing and everyone looked at me funny.

Also, why did a very crappy rap song get an Oscar?

Mtbrncofn
03-05-2006, 10:41 PM
Did anyone else notice Tom Hanks cursing out Jon Stewart when he was walking out to present the Best Picture category? Maybe I'm going crazy, I don't know.


Darn, I missed that.

baja
03-05-2006, 10:50 PM
Did anyone else notice Tom Hanks cursing out Jon Stewart when he was walking out to present the Best Picture category? Maybe I'm going crazy, I don't know.

I thought Stewart was a jerk.

Missed the interchange though. It was Jack Nickelson that presented the best picture nominees

Breck Bronc
03-05-2006, 10:51 PM
ROFL!

i said the same exact thing and everyone looked at me funny.

Also, why did a very crappy rap song get an Oscar?I'm happy Three 6 Mafia won. They provided a little life to the stodgy affair.

I also enjoyed the speech by the Best Foreign Film winner. He did well with his short time allotment.

ludo21
03-05-2006, 10:55 PM
I'm happy Three 6 Mafia won. They provided a little life to the stodgy affair.

I also enjoyed the speech by the Best Foreign Film winner. He did well with his short time allotment.


whatever. Rap is so crappy these days. Its all about the beat and the words are just scrambled in.

-"Its hot out here for a pimp"
- "haeohdhasgGD"

At least thats what i heard. :~ohyah!:

Just as Steve Harvey said one time, "Why cant all 10 guys just pass the mike around instead of screaming in it at the same time?"

I like the foreign guy too. Also Reece winning was good caz it gave the viewers someone nice to look at. :sunshine:

Breck Bronc
03-05-2006, 11:16 PM
I thought Stewart was a jerk.

Missed the interchange though. It was Jack Nickelson that presented the best picture nomineesI thought Stewart was hilarious and did a good job for his first time hosting.

You're right, Nicholson was presenting Best Picture and Hanks for Best Director.

sirhcyennek81
03-05-2006, 11:17 PM
Clooney was a riot for the best supporting actor nod. Thinking its a good idea hollywood is not mainstream, because they talked about aids when no one else did, and they were for civil rights when no one else was...they talk about the uncomfortable things we dont like talking about...just take your award and sit the **** down. geesh...

:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 11:23 PM
Clooney was a riot for the best supporting actor nod. Thinking its a good idea hollywood is not mainstream, because they talked about aids when no one else did, and they were for civil rights when no one else was...they talk about the uncomfortable things we dont like talking about...just take your award and sit the **** down. geesh...

:Broncos:

They propagandize the public with issues that they support. It doesnt necessarily mean that there is any honor in supporting the issues that they do. Why dont they support some of the obvious social problems that dont fit their agendas?

Kaylore
03-05-2006, 11:26 PM
Clooney was a riot for the best supporting actor nod. Thinking its a good idea hollywood is not mainstream, because they talked about aids when no one else did, and they were for civil rights when no one else was...they talk about the uncomfortable things we dont like talking about...just take your award and sit the **** down. geesh...

:Broncos:
I agree. They think they're way more important than anyone could possibly be. Get over yourselves.

epicSocialism4tw
03-05-2006, 11:27 PM
I agree. They think they're way more important than anyone could possibly be. Get over yourselves.

That statement sums up the Oscars.

sirhcyennek81
03-05-2006, 11:30 PM
They propagandize the public with issues that they support. It doesnt necessarily mean that there is any honor in supporting the issues that they do. Why dont they support some of the obvious social problems that dont fit their agendas?


like tax code reform. or improved military veteran benefits. or removing the ability of political lobbiests from influencing american government policies. or winning the war on terror. you know, things that really matter.

:Broncos:

TheDave
03-05-2006, 11:34 PM
I agree. They think they're way more important than anyone could possibly be. Get over yourselves.

guess they could give a bunch of sports cliches instead:

no one belived in me...

This was a good win for me...

just taking it one script at a time...

sirhcyennek81
03-05-2006, 11:37 PM
guess they could give a bunch of sports cliches instead:

no one belived in me...

This was a good win for me...

just taking it one script at a time...

thank you for giving me a frivilous award in a frivilous industry from a bunch of frivilous people. i would also like to thank Jesus.

:Broncos:

TheDave
03-05-2006, 11:38 PM
thank you for giving me a frivilous award in a frivilous industry from a bunch of frivilous people. i would also like to thank Jesus.

:Broncos:

now that would make llama happy :thumbs:

sirhcyennek81
03-05-2006, 11:40 PM
now that would make llama happy :thumbs:

I would also like to thank Li Mei, and the always incredible happy ending. This one is for you, baby-san...

:Broncos:

broncohaven
03-06-2006, 05:41 AM
The left has Hollywood, and the right has the Church. Even Steven.

Bronco_Beerslug
03-06-2006, 07:32 AM
The left has Hollywood, and the right has the Church. Even Steven.
I thought Crash came out in 2004?

What does the right do for entertainment since they believe all the actors, muscians, artists, etc ... are liberials with an agenda?

Rascal
03-06-2006, 07:39 AM
The fact that Juaquin Phoenix didn't win an Oscar just solidifies by suspiscion that they are full of ****.

REB
03-06-2006, 07:42 AM
Well I didn't watch. I have no interest in watching a bunch of self-absorbed limosine liberals tell each other how wonderful and enlightend they are. oy vey. I played poker and told myself how wonderful a poker player I am instead :)

-Slap-
03-06-2006, 08:20 AM
Phillip Seymour Hoffman is also an excellent actor. I haven't seen some of the actor's performances that he beat out for the Oscar but I don't doubt he probably deserved to win. He's an actor that is unattractive and yet has managed to find solid work that isn't excessively "character acting" which most "ugly" actors have to take to compensate. That he beat out the other prettier faces really surprises me - It's a step in the right direction.
You sure have to wade through a lot of ignorant crap to find a worthwhile post on this thread.

-Slap-
03-06-2006, 08:26 AM
Acting is an emotionally demanding profession. In the movie industry your value is based on your popularity which comes and goes. Some of the acting methods actors use to bring themselves to the emotional position they need to be can be permanently psycologically damaging. Now remember that certain scenes require an actor come to an emotional Zenith again and again. Couple that with a general inability for people to deal with success (there are no classes on dealing with fame) and its a recipe for disaster. The same thing happens to a lot musicians.

I often wonder if the movie industry wouldn't benifit from the kind of educational programs that the NFL have to teach players how to manage their money and organize their life. It probably would help.
I think a lot of people turn to acting, and other performing arts, because they crave the validation from the attention that goes along with it. Success doesn't always fill that void. Also, Hollywood is rife with nepotism and addiction can be an inherited or a learned behavior.

-Slap-
03-06-2006, 08:30 AM
I loved the look on the faces of the makers of "Crash". I think they were genuinely not expecting to win. If you listen to the "experts", the cowboy movie was supposed to run away with best picture...
They should have been stunned to be nominated. I didn't see Brokeback, but I would say that Crash is arguably the worst movie to win Best Picture in the last 20 years.

watermock
03-06-2006, 08:39 AM
Acting is an emotionally demanding profession. In the movie industry your value is based on your popularity which comes and goes. Some of the acting methods actors use to bring themselves to the emotional position they need to be can be permanently psycologically damaging. Now remember that certain scenes require an actor come to an emotional Zenith again and again. Couple that with a general inability for people to deal with success (there are no classes on dealing with fame) and its a recipe for disaster. The same thing happens to a lot musicians.

I often wonder if the movie industry wouldn't benifit from the kind of educational programs that the NFL have to teach players how to manage their money and organize their life. It probably would help.

Well said. The same could be said for professional athletes, especially NFL athletes who might of grown up dirt poor in a bad environment on several levels then find themselves sitting on millions while vultures circle over them, real or illusioned.

bendog
03-06-2006, 08:42 AM
Im not scared of queers, I just dont like em.
you suck

re the topic, LOL the only winners I've seen so far are march of the penguins and wallace and grommet curse of the wererabbit and batman begins which one a cinemeatography or something (and I didn't see the end of it cause the dvd was messed up) and King Kong

Mrs Dog had me add the Constant Gardner to our que at netflix, but I don't think she'll like it. I read the book and while it was a helluva good read, it was very sad.I wanna see Capote, Walk the Line, Pride and Prejudice, and I guess Syriana

reese witherspoon is putting forth a rather impressive body of work (no pun intended, though cruel intentions is a really sexy movie)

jonny1
03-06-2006, 08:48 AM
Did anyone else notice Tom Hanks cursing out Jon Stewart when he was walking out to present the Best Picture category? Maybe I'm going crazy, I don't know.

That was part of the joke from earlier when Hanks was part of a clip on speeches running long. While he was giving his "acceptance" speech, members of the orchestra surrounded him, and one of the violinists hit him over the head with his violin, then the clarinet player shot him with a tranquilizer dart.

Stewart said it was amazing that a 2 time winner would let them hit him over the head with a violin, so as Hanks walked out, he continued playing along.

Orange_Beard
03-06-2006, 08:52 AM
Only a man who lusts after other men thinks everyone else is gay.
It's call projetcing your feelings on others. Very common.
Good way to make yourself feel straight.

sirhcyennek81
03-06-2006, 08:56 AM
Only a man who lusts after other men thinks everyone else is gay.
It's call projetcing your feelings on others. Very common.
Good way to make yourself feel straight.

or they are right, and everyone else is gay. ;D

:Broncos:

bendog
03-06-2006, 08:56 AM
pretty good range for a chick who I thought was type cast for legally blonde1

Walk the Line (2005) .... June Carter
Vanity Fair (2004) .... Becky Sharp
Legally Blonde 2: Red, White & Blonde (2003) .... Elle Woods
Sweet Home Alabama (2002) .... Melanie Smooter/Carmichael
The Importance of Being Earnest (2002) .... Cecily
... aka Importance d'ętre constant, L' (France)

watermock
03-06-2006, 08:57 AM
March of the Penguins wasn't a Batman movie...it was really cool tho. It's unreal how they can incubate eggs on their feet/bellies in the antarctic is not the most incredible thing...wifey pops an egg and hubby has to tend it while she fattens up....like months he sits there on that egg...no food, no water but snow...it's amazing he has the strength to even go fishing after all that time...if she even shows up at all. (You know how those Female Penguins are), and how they can find their own in a flock that is huge by a particuliar call genuine to each family.

Penguin Olympics:
http://john.stuwee.org/albums/photoblog/05_07_13.jpg

RhymesayersDU
03-06-2006, 08:57 AM
I've never been a huge fan of the Three 6 Mafia, but I loved their performance, the fact that they won, and their acceptance speech.

It really IS hard out here for a pimp.

bendog
03-06-2006, 08:58 AM
or they are right, and everyone else is gay. ;D

:Broncos:
I don't shower at the gym because my penis is small and I'm intimidated

sirhcyennek81
03-06-2006, 09:00 AM
I don't shower at the gym because my penis is small and I'm intimidated


TMI. But if you needed to shower at the gym, stand next to a guy smaller then you. just a fun and friendly tip.

:Broncos:

Rock Chalk
03-06-2006, 09:29 AM
whats crash?
Great movie.

Rock Chalk
03-06-2006, 09:42 AM
Three 6 mafia won best song?

Wow.

Houston rappers :)

Mtbrncofn
03-06-2006, 11:41 AM
March of the Penguins wasn't a Batman movie...it was really cool tho. It's unreal how they can incubate eggs on their feet/bellies in the antarctic is not the most incredible thing...wifey pops an egg and hubby has to tend it while she fattens up....like months he sits there on that egg...no food, no water but snow...it's amazing he has the strength to even go fishing after all that time...if she even shows up at all. (You know how those Female Penguins are), and how they can find their own in a flock that is huge by a particuliar call genuine to each family.

Penguin Olympics:
http://john.stuwee.org/albums/photoblog/05_07_13.jpg

I too, thought this was a great movie. There were some really sad parts to it, but I learned a lot watching it. I was amazed to find out that an Emperor penguin can dive 1700 feet.

I thought it was heartbreaking to see the penguins that fumbled the pass and their egg froze almost instantly. They were so forlorn. They knew what had just happened.

bendog
03-06-2006, 11:55 AM
That was a really sad movie. A friend took my kid to see 8 below a few weeks back, and my kid was rather traumatized.

Rohirrim
03-06-2006, 12:21 PM
They should have been stunned to be nominated. I didn't see Brokeback, but I would say that Crash is arguably the worst movie to win Best Picture in the last 20 years.

They should give that award to their marketing department. The last month or so they inundated the academy with a massive marketing campaign for Crash. Crash shouldn't have even been on the list. It was false, manipulative and sickeningly PC not to mention one thing that I hate in any screenplay: instead of character motivation driving the plot (or legitimate outside forces), unbelievable coincidence does. Yecch. That's what beginners fall back on. Should have won Best Song, though.

Having seen all the movies on the list, I would have to say that Brokeback, Munich and Capote would have to be the only worthy contenders for best picture. Good Night, Good Luck was just too didactic for my tastes and too small a film in scope and power to be consider for Best Picture. I would have picked Capote over all, because the script was so tight from beginning to end, the performances were absolutely remarkable (especially Hoffman's, but also the guy who played Perry Smith) and it was truly flawless and complex, from start to finish. The spell was never broken. Brokeback was beautifully filmed and probably had the strongest emotional impact of the three, but it dragged in a few spots, especially toward the end. Munich was just a bloody intense, damn scary flick, but a little too long. I think it's Spielberg's best film so far. None of the schmaltz he so often falls back on. All three were damn good films, but I would have to give Capote the edge.

The Academy did itself no favors last night. Playing music while recipients are getting the awards was insulting and intrusive. Jon Stewart just wasn't up to the task. The whole production zipped along like, "Let's get this over with." And nobody got emotional. Too much botox, I guess. Hey, Academy! If you don't care, neither do we.

-Slap-
03-06-2006, 12:25 PM
I didn't watch The Oscars because I hate award shows of any kind. I was surprised to hear Jon Stewart was tabbed as host, though. I think he's an intelligent and funny guy, but his sardonic style of humor seems like a poor fit for the event.

bendog
03-06-2006, 12:28 PM
ratings were down 10%. My kid was watching vh1 or something with a top 20 music countdown, and when she went to bed around 8:30 we just turned off the tv and listened to the neighbor's dogs barking, which was an improvement

Breck Bronc
03-06-2006, 12:52 PM
They should have been stunned to be nominated. I didn't see Brokeback, but I would say that Crash is arguably the worst movie to win Best Picture in the last 20 years.That's a good debate. Here's the list of winners, followed by their IMDB user rating:

1986 - Out of Africa 6.8
1987 - Platoon 8.1
1988 - The Last Emperor 7.9
1989 - Rain Man 7.9
1990 - Driving Miss Daisy 7.4
1991 - Dances With Wolves 7.8
1992 - Silence of the Lambs 8.6
1993 - Unforgiven 8.1
1994 - Schindler's List 8.8
1995 - Forrest Gump 8.3
1996 - Braveheart 8.3
1997 - The English Patient 7.1
1998 - Titanic 7.0
1999 - Shakespeare in Love 7.5
2000 - American Beauty 8.5
2001 - Gladiator 8.1
2002 - A Beautiful Mind 7.8
2003 - Chicago 7.4
2004 - Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 8.9
2005 - Million Dollar Baby 8.4
2006 - Crash 8.4

I'd agree that Out of Africa, Chicago, Titanic and The English Patient are some of the worst (relatively) Best Picture winners. I believe Crash is below average among Best Picture winners, but not grouped at the very bottom.

I think the most undeserving winners were Forrest Gump and Titanic. There's no way Forrest Gump was more deserving of an Oscar than The Shawshank Redemption and Pulp Fiction. 1994 was one of the best movie years ever and Forrest Gump was at best the third best film that year. 1997 was also a great movie year and L.A. Confidential, Good Will Hunting, and As Good as It Gets were better than Titanic (imo).

Rock Chalk
03-06-2006, 01:19 PM
That's a good debate. Here's the list of winners, followed by their IMDB user rating:

1986 - Out of Africa 6.8
1987 - Platoon 8.1
1988 - The Last Emperor 7.9
1989 - Rain Man 7.9
1990 - Driving Miss Daisy 7.4
1991 - Dances With Wolves 7.8
1992 - Silence of the Lambs 8.6
1993 - Unforgiven 8.1
1994 - Schindler's List 8.8
1995 - Forrest Gump 8.3
1996 - Braveheart 8.3
1997 - The English Patient 7.1
1998 - Titanic 7.0
1999 - Shakespeare in Love 7.5
2000 - American Beauty 8.5
2001 - Gladiator 8.1
2002 - A Beautiful Mind 7.8
2003 - Chicago 7.4
2004 - Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 8.9
2005 - Million Dollar Baby 8.4
2006 - Crash 8.4

I'd agree that Out of Africa, Chicago, Titanic and The English Patient are some of the worst (relatively) Best Picture winners. I believe Crash is below average among Best Picture winners, but not grouped at the very bottom.

I think the most undeserving winners were Forrest Gump and Titanic. There's no way Forrest Gump was more deserving of an Oscar than The Shawshank Redemption and Pulp Fiction. 1994 was one of the best movie years ever and Forrest Gump was at best the third best film that year. 1997 was also a great movie year and L.A. Confidential, Good Will Hunting, and As Good as It Gets were better than Titanic (imo).
Forrest Gump was better than both the pictures it beat out.

Pulp Fiction was garbage. Shawshank was a really good movie, but Stephen King wrote it and he is never going to get a Best PIcture. Ever.

anthonypacino
03-06-2006, 01:21 PM
For the most part I think the awards are a PC as it gets, everyone gets a "ribbon" you may not win for best pic but you will win for something. Walk the Line was good but I wanted more about his life, music not just his romance with June. Walk the Line was about the only one of these movies that anyone really watched anyway.

Breck Bronc
03-06-2006, 01:50 PM
Forrest Gump was better than both the pictures it beat out.

Pulp Fiction was garbage. Shawshank was a really good movie, but Stephen King wrote it and he is never going to get a Best PIcture. Ever.Pulp Fiction was garbage LOL . This after saying the same about The Sopranos. I guess there's no accounting for taste.

Most people agree Shawshank and Pulp Fiction were better than Forrest.

http://imdb.com/chart/top

The Shawshank Redemption #2 overall
Pulp Ficiton #8
Forrest Gump #98

ludo21
03-06-2006, 01:55 PM
Pulp Fiction was garbage LOL . This after saying the same about The Sopranos. I guess there's no accounting for taste.

Most people agree Shawshank and Pulp Fiction were better than Forrest.

http://imdb.com/chart/top

The Shawshank Redemption #2 overall
Pulp Ficiton #8
Forrest Gump #98


i liked Shawshank a lot. But Forrest was great as well, and deserved it. Pulp altho a great movie, didnt deserve the oscar.

bronco militia
03-06-2006, 02:03 PM
1986 - Out of Africa 6.8
1990 - Driving Miss Daisy 7.4
1997 - The English Patient 7.1
1998 - Titanic 7.0
1999 - Shakespeare in Love 7.5
2000 - American Beauty 8.5
2003 - Chicago 7.4


.

:thumbsdow

RhymesayersDU
03-06-2006, 02:06 PM
Three 6 mafia won best song?

Wow.

Houston rappers :)
Or.... Tennessee. But close.

FADERPROOF
03-06-2006, 02:08 PM
Three 6 mafia won best song?

Wow.

Houston rappers :)


Didnd't know Memphis, tennessee was a suburb of Houston.

FADERPROOF
03-06-2006, 02:10 PM
Or.... Tennessee. But close.

Beat me to it, oh well, always fun to pile on Alec.

No worries though, Houston can always claim E-40 :rofl:

FADERPROOF
03-06-2006, 02:11 PM
And I also think that it's bull**** that keira Knightley didn't win best actress.

RhymesayersDU
03-06-2006, 02:12 PM
Beat me to it, oh well, always fun to pile on Alec.

No worries though, Houston can always claim E-40 :rofl:
I thought E-40 was from like Florida or something like that?

But, Houston rules for bringing the world Chamillionaire.

FADERPROOF
03-06-2006, 02:14 PM
I thought E-40 was from like Florida or something like that?

But, Houston rules for bringing the world Chamillionaire.


Don't give the great state of Florida crappy rappers like E-40, he is a Texan.

Cham's mixtape is sweet, anyone that wants to diss Mike Jones is awesome.

RhymesayersDU
03-06-2006, 02:16 PM
Don't give the great state of Florida crappy rappers like E-40, he is a Texan.

Cham's mixtape is sweet, anyone that wants to diss Mike Jones is awesome.
Well, according to his bio, they say he's from Vallejo, California, and is big in that bay area scene.

But yeah, Cham's mixtape is great, and his album is really good. I love it. But I also dig a little Mike Jones, he bumps in my car.

FADERPROOF
03-06-2006, 02:22 PM
Well, according to his bio, they say he's from Vallejo, California, and is big in that bay area scene.

But yeah, Cham's mixtape is great, and his album is really good. I love it. But I also dig a little Mike Jones, he bumps in my car.

I really cant stand Mike Jones, he seriously might be my most hated rapper.

And about the Houston thing, I remember a song with E-40 and UGK talking about being from Houston, so I guess it's UGK that is from texas and not E-40.

RhymesayersDU
03-06-2006, 02:25 PM
I really cant stand Mike Jones, he seriously might be my most hated rapper.

And about the Houston thing, I remember a song with E-40 and UGK talking about being from Houston, so I guess it's UGK that is from texas and not E-40.
A lot of people hate Mike Jones. I dunno, some of his stuff is catchy. Like, his album isn't worth buying, and I only like 4 or 5 tracks on it at most. I guess he's just hit or miss. His hits are fire though, IMO.

I saw him in concert over the summer in Albuquerque, that was a trip. Being 1 of 2 white kids there (the other being my boy who tagged along) is always good times.

FADERPROOF
03-06-2006, 02:29 PM
A lot of people hate Mike Jones. I dunno, some of his stuff is catchy. Like, his album isn't worth buying, and I only like 4 or 5 tracks on it at most. I guess he's just hit or miss. His hits are fire though, IMO.

I saw him in concert over the summer in Albuquerque, that was a trip. Being 1 of 2 white kids there (the other being my boy who tagged along) is always good times.

Mike Jones got annoying with that "WHO? Mike Jones" **** after hearing it time and time again, and then "Back then" just totally ruined it for me.

Some people do like him otherwise he wouldn't be around still, but I just can't get into it.

RhymesayersDU
03-06-2006, 02:36 PM
Mike Jones got annoying with that "WHO? Mike Jones" **** after hearing it time and time again, and then "Back then" just totally ruined it for me.

Some people do like him otherwise he wouldn't be around still, but I just can't get into it.
Speaking of "Back Then," I did that song drunk as hell at the campus bar the night they were doing karaoke like 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Needless to say, the hoes were all on me.

Mtbrncofn
03-06-2006, 02:38 PM
That was a really sad movie. A friend took my kid to see 8 below a few weeks back, and my kid was rather traumatized.


Dang, that's about the 3rd time I've heard that. I've been planning to take my kindergarten age daughter and her friend to see it, but I think I may have to pass now. I heard there were some scary parts?

FADERPROOF
03-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Speaking of "Back Then," I did that song drunk as hell at the campus bar the night they were doing karaoke like 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Needless to say, the hoes were all on me.


Alright man, seriously you need to take a road trip to Cleveland for the Broncos game this upcoming season, me and you would have a blast at a bar.

I haven't done karoake, but I add enough entertainment as it is, I'm a lively person when I've been drinking.

RhymesayersDU
03-06-2006, 02:42 PM
Alright man, seriously you need to take a road trip to Cleveland for the Broncos game this upcoming season, me and you would have a blast at a bar.

I haven't done karoake, but I add enough entertainment as it is, I'm a lively person when I've been drinking.
I haven't even paid attention to any scheduling with the NBA, NCAA, and this CBA issue.. do the Broncs play @ the Browns this year?

FADERPROOF
03-06-2006, 02:44 PM
I haven't even paid attention to any scheduling with the NBA, NCAA, and this CBA issue.. do the Broncs play @ the Browns this year?

Yep, schedule hasnt been released so we don't know what day it is, but Denver comes to Cleveland this year.

Mile High Shack
03-06-2006, 02:46 PM
Dang, that's about the 3rd time I've heard that. I've been planning to take my kindergarten age daughter and her friend to see it, but I think I may have to pass now. I heard there were some scary parts?

just dogs dying---not "just"

but dogs die

bendog
03-06-2006, 03:19 PM
just dogs dying---not "just"

but dogs die
Didn't they have to abandon the dogs to their fate (ie death)? That's what I heard.

Mile High Shack
03-06-2006, 03:21 PM
Didn't they have to abandon the dogs to their fate (ie death)? That's what I heard.

yeah haven't seen it, but from what I hear

a storm comes up and they only have room for the guy in the helicopter and no one goes back to get the dogs

broncohaven
03-06-2006, 04:56 PM
"you get your A$$ out there and you find that fuc#!^& dog."

TDmvp
03-06-2006, 05:41 PM
Ok i watched the Oscars "sorta" was watching 2 shows usen tivo jumping between oscars and something i cared about LOL . I think i watched it all tho while FF thru the music performances and speachs to see who won and what not .. I did watch the last 30 mins or so non stop and seen the "Who we lost this year part" with all the greats that past away over the year sence last oscars .. As this part started i tell Girlfriend you know will be last 2 on the list and she goes yup .. and i say i bet they get a standing O ... she says yup.. so we watch it .. and NO Don Knotts ... WTF .... did i miss a special part in the show that mentioned his death ??? at start of show or something ???? ... really Pi$$ed me off actually ... Im not a big fan of Hollyweird or fake sincerity and it just leaks from these Fer's.

clean
03-06-2006, 05:42 PM
pretty good range for a chick who I thought was type cast for legally blonde1

Walk the Line (2005) .... June Carter
Vanity Fair (2004) .... Becky Sharp
Legally Blonde 2: Red, White & Blonde (2003) .... Elle Woods
Sweet Home Alabama (2002) .... Melanie Smooter/Carmichael
The Importance of Being Earnest (2002) .... Cecily
... aka Importance d'ętre constant, L' (France)

American Psycho (2000) .... Evelyn Williams
Freeway (1996) .... Vanessa Lutz
S.F.W. (1994) .... Wendy Pfister

http://www.newsandentertainment.com/zMfreeway.html

TDmvp
03-06-2006, 05:44 PM
LOL clean you always post right after me it seems .... and my GF knows i have a MASSIVE JLH fetish so everytime i go to check my post you post after me and theres J love LOLOL .... i think she thinks its a set up LOL

clean
03-06-2006, 08:30 PM
I can't help it. JLH is like a bad habit that I can’t break.

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Dagmar
03-06-2006, 09:03 PM
They should have been stunned to be nominated. I didn't see Brokeback, but I would say that Crash is arguably the worst movie to win Best Picture in the last 20 years.
No, that'd be Chicago.