Burger Bill raises the possibility of trading Tatum Bell

[SoCalBronco]

bill williamson
Future of speedster Bell uncertain as draft looms
By Bill Williamson
Denver Post Staff Writer



Don't be surprised if the Broncos explore the possibility of trading running back Tatum Bell. If Denver feels good about its tailback situation and believes it could get a decent return for the third-year speed burner, a deal could develop.

Before any Bell deal can be talked about, however, Denver has to figure out what it is going to do at the position. The first step was the salary cap-induced release of Mike Anderson, who was the starter last season. Anderson, who will be 33 in September, could return, but there might be interest from Houston and Miami.

Denver's only experienced tailbacks are Bell and Ron Dayne, who hasn't re-signed. If Dayne re-signs, he will get a chance to start. But if the free-agent market goes flat, Denver could make a run at a veteran. Indianapolis' Edgerrin James and Baltimore's Jamal Lewis could be intriguing possibilities.

Denver also will address the position in the first few rounds of the draft. The Broncos could look at Denver native LenDale White, of USC, with their No. 22 pick - if he's available and they decide they want to use a high pick on a tailback. Denver usually doesn't select running backs in the first round.

Regardless of what happens, there will be at least one new tailback in town. That could mean the departure of Bell. In a saturated running back market, his worth is unknown, but interested teams may include Arizona, Baltimore, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Minnesota and New England. But because of Bell's speed, the Broncos will consider keeping him.

Too little for T.O.?

Denver, Kansas City and Dallas are the teams most often connected to Terrell Owens, who soon will be released by Philadelphia. All would be fine landing spots for the receiver and all would be considered serious Super Bowl contenders with Owens in the attack.

Problem is, none of those teams has an abundance of salary cap room. Owens may have trouble creating a major bidding war. Any team could put together a tasty incentive package for the future, but initial money also will be important.

If no other teams make a major play for Owens, these three teams could control the market. Only Denver has visited with Owens, but there were indications at the NFL combine in Indianapolis last week that Dallas and Kansas City are interested.

Packers can sway Favre

This week, in a nationally televised interview, quarterback




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Brett Favre basically said he was waiting to see what Green Bay would do in free agency and the draft before making up his mind on whether to retire.
Take that as a major hint. Favre wants to play, and he wants to play for the Packers. Why else would he wait to see how the team manages the offseason?

His comments were a challenge to the team to get him some help to make a playoff run. The Packers have ammunition to appease Favre. They have a top-five draft pick and among the most cap room in the NFL. Thus, Green Bay could get Favre a ton of defense and some offense. The team could use a running back and another receiver.

If this happens, not only will the Packers be better for the future, they'll be better for the present with Favre behind center.

Whisenhunt in hunt

When Ken Whisenhunt turned down the chance to coach the Oakland Raiders days after he played a major role in Pittsburgh's Super Bowl championship, he was applauded by several NFL insiders.

The feeling was the Raiders' job was not up to his standards. Whisenhunt, who is only 43 and never has been a head coach, was told to wait for a better job.

Whisenhunt will be the top available assistant going into the 2006 season and is likely to spend the season auditioning for any opening he wants. He'll be this year's Brad Childress. After being selective, the Eagles' offensive coordinator was snapped up by Minnesota in January.

With 10 jobs filled with new faces this year, the turnover next year likely will be reduced. Potential openings could come in Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, San Diego and Tennessee. Whisenhunt can mark his name next to his choice of any opening.

Bill Williamson can be reached at 303-820-5450 or bwilliamson@denverpost.com.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3570008

[SoCalBronco]

I dont really see how this is viable, even if you pick a RB high. Cant go into the season with Ron Dayne and a fresh rookie. One guy has a year in the system and not many carries in it, and the other guy is a newbie. It doesnt work.

[Kaylore]

I dont really see how this is viable, even if you pick a RB high. Cant go into the season with Ron Dayne and a fresh rookie. One guy has a year in the system and not many carries in it, and the other guy is a newbie. It doesnt work.
Not to mention Bell looked pretty good in that game against the Chargers. I wouldn't rule him out just yet.

[DBroncos4life]

ugh, why? Maybe if the Jets want to work out something for Abe and we keep our first rounder I could live with something along those lines. I guess its too much to ask for Denver to have a career RB.

[Broncojef]

Bell just isn't the guy. Never has been and I don't feel he ever will be. He isn't built well for running between the tackles. Our running game was pathetic in the play-offs and I think Mike vowed to change that this year. No way do we give up Bell with who we currently have, Mike has someone targeted....I wonder who it is?

[bpc]

Addaij from LSU could definitely fit our role. The Bell kid from Arizona sounds interesting as well.

I like Bell's potential but he has to learn to run through arm tackles and he can't.

[24champ]

Broncojef say hello to Mike bell and Edge......

[Man-Goblin]

What could yo expect for Bell? I couldn't imagine any higher than a 3rd, but you just spent a 2nd on him 2 years ago. Maybe in Shanny's eyes he has PutzierITUS?

[watermock]

dream on...Denver RB;s if they can't make it here are virtually worthless.

[Broncojef]

We have had servicable backs for so long it would be scary to again have a guy like Edge or Alexander and see him perform in our system. Something needs to be done, I had no confidence in our running game all last year.

[eddie mac]

IMO he's running out of Denver Broncos news that's why he's posting this ****e! He's getting nothing out of Dove Valley in terms of info. Why else would anyone suggest trading your only experienced back on the roster considering his previous post stated Dayne's return is not 100%.

[BritBronco Maniac]

With all the free agent RBs on the market I can't see Denver getting enough in return for this deal.
Even if he doesn't develop into the starter he is still cheap to have around as a change of pace back.

[watermock]

Burger Bill has proven himself as an idiot again and again...

That turd is clueless...Bell is under a second round rookie contract and he''s not going anywhere for now...

I don't even think he follows the team IMO. It's amusing how these clowns have to clue about reality....WE CANT SIGN till the CBA is done...WTF are these morons thinking?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

*cough*StevenJackson*cough*

[broncohaven]

I don't think that Bell is going anyhwere, but I think that Bobby Turner is frustrated with Bell. The Jets are desperate for a RB, and Bell's speed will intrgiue a lot of people.

Any trade speculation is absurd until we have Dayne under contract, but if that happens and Shanny thinks he can get the other man he's looking at it wouldn't surprise me to see Bell in a package for Abraham.

I think Bell has proven that he's pretty much a one trick pony, and that he isnt a 30 carry per game back. As well as the RBBC was last year, it's not what Shanahan wants and it fizzled completely in the post season. We need a feature back, and Bell can't fill that role.

[Tombstone RJ]

bill williamson
Future of speedster Bell uncertain as draft looms
By Bill Williamson
Denver Post Staff Writer



Don't be surprised if the Broncos explore the possibility of trading running back Tatum Bell. If Denver feels good about its tailback situation and believes it could get a decent return for the third-year speed burner, a deal could develop.

Before any Bell deal can be talked about, however, Denver has to figure out what it is going to do at the position. The first step was the salary cap-induced release of Mike Anderson, who was the starter last season. Anderson, who will be 33 in September, could return, but there might be interest from Houston and Miami.

Denver's only experienced tailbacks are Bell and Ron Dayne, who hasn't re-signed. If Dayne re-signs, he will get a chance to start. But if the free-agent market goes flat, Denver could make a run at a veteran. Indianapolis' Edgerrin James and Baltimore's Jamal Lewis could be intriguing possibilities.

Denver also will address the position in the first few rounds of the draft. The Broncos could look at Denver native LenDale White, of USC, with their No. 22 pick - if he's available and they decide they want to use a high pick on a tailback. Denver usually doesn't select running backs in the first round.

Regardless of what happens, there will be at least one new tailback in town. That could mean the departure of Bell. In a saturated running back market, his worth is unknown, but interested teams may include Arizona, Baltimore, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Minnesota and New England. But because of Bell's speed, the Broncos will consider keeping him.

Too little for T.O.?

Denver, Kansas City and Dallas are the teams most often connected to Terrell Owens, who soon will be released by Philadelphia. All would be fine landing spots for the receiver and all would be considered serious Super Bowl contenders with Owens in the attack.

Problem is, none of those teams has an abundance of salary cap room. Owens may have trouble creating a major bidding war. Any team could put together a tasty incentive package for the future, but initial money also will be important.

If no other teams make a major play for Owens, these three teams could control the market. Only Denver has visited with Owens, but there were indications at the NFL combine in Indianapolis last week that Dallas and Kansas City are interested.

Packers can sway Favre

This week, in a nationally televised interview, quarterback




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Brett Favre basically said he was waiting to see what Green Bay would do in free agency and the draft before making up his mind on whether to retire.
Take that as a major hint. Favre wants to play, and he wants to play for the Packers. Why else would he wait to see how the team manages the offseason?

His comments were a challenge to the team to get him some help to make a playoff run. The Packers have ammunition to appease Favre. They have a top-five draft pick and among the most cap room in the NFL. Thus, Green Bay could get Favre a ton of defense and some offense. The team could use a running back and another receiver.

If this happens, not only will the Packers be better for the future, they'll be better for the present with Favre behind center.

Whisenhunt in hunt

When Ken Whisenhunt turned down the chance to coach the Oakland Raiders days after he played a major role in Pittsburgh's Super Bowl championship, he was applauded by several NFL insiders.

The feeling was the Raiders' job was not up to his standards. Whisenhunt, who is only 43 and never has been a head coach, was told to wait for a better job.

Whisenhunt will be the top available assistant going into the 2006 season and is likely to spend the season auditioning for any opening he wants. He'll be this year's Brad Childress. After being selective, the Eagles' offensive coordinator was snapped up by Minnesota in January.

With 10 jobs filled with new faces this year, the turnover next year likely will be reduced. Potential openings could come in Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, San Diego and Tennessee. Whisenhunt can mark his name next to his choice of any opening.

Bill Williamson can be reached at 303-820-5450 or bwilliamson@denverpost.com.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3570008


Once can only hope that Shanny is smart enough to take White in the first.

[broncohaven]

Once can only hope that Shanny is smart enough to take White in the first.
One can only hope to wake up one morning with a pot of gold at the foot of their bed. That's more likely than White falling into the 20s.

[ludo21]

One can only hope to wake up one morning with a pot of gold at the foot of their bed. That's more likely than White falling into the 20s.


Ha!

I still believe Bell is our best option as of now to be the starter. He still hasnt been given a real chance. I think he has gotten over 20 carries once. He looked good in a few games, maybe it was because he was change of pace guy, but i think he could be a 1500 yard back here.

What kind of value would Bell have anyway in a loaded RB market?

[shaun514]

Since I'm a Dallas fan, I really don't want TO in Dallas. But the Cowboys have at least 14 million dollars in cap space. I am wondering how much he thinks it will take to get TO.

[Tombstone RJ]

One can only hope to wake up one morning with a pot of gold at the foot of their bed. That's more likely than White falling into the 20s.

Agreed.

I'm kinda hoping Dayne doesn't resign with the Broncos just so they are forced to seriously consider keeping their two firsts to get White.

Is that wrong?

Should I not hope for that?

[Wes Mantooth]

I dont really see how this is viable, even if you pick a RB high. Cant go into the season with Ron Dayne and a fresh rookie. One guy has a year in the system and not many carries in it, and the other guy is a newbie. It doesnt work.
Dayne has his college career in the system and one year with the broncos. He is ready to go now. He will perform 10x better than Droughns if given the chance.

[baja]

Sure wish we still had Adam S. feeding us Bronco news.

[broncohaven]

Agreed.

I'm kinda hoping Dayne doesn't resign with the Broncos just so they are forced to seriously consider keeping their two firsts to get White.

Is that wrong?

Should I not hope for that?
I would rather see us sign Dayne and hope that Laurence Maroney drops to us at #22.

I like White, but I think two #1s is too much to give up for him. And Given our history of drafting RBs it's unlikely we use a first on RB at all, let alone make a huge move to take one in the top 10.

[Old Dude]

I don't see Bell going anywhere at this point. He knows the system, he's under a decent contract, Anderson has already been released, he's young & healthy.

I guess that could change if the Broncos spent a bunch of bucks on a high profile veteran RB like Edge, or spent a top draft pick on a premium rookie, but right now, I just don't see it.

[elsid13]

The amount of love that White gets on this board is amazing. Yes he from Denver, but he has shown nothing to indicate that he worth trading up for. Let be real, he was a good college running back on very good team but he has not proven that he any better then Bush,Williams or Maloney.

And seeing how much he weighted at the combine, I am serious concerned about his workout habits. There are a lot quality backs that we can pick later in the draft that would help us. The game is won in the trenches and this draft gives Denver the opportunity to be very good for long time there.

[ludo21]

The amount of love that White gets on this board is amazing. Yes he from Denver, but he has shown nothing to indicate that he worth trading up for. Let be real, he was a good college running back on very good team but he has not proven that he any better then Bush,Williams or Maloney.

And seeing how much he weighted at the combine, I am serious concerned about his workout habits. There are a lot quality backs that we can pick later in the draft that would help us. The game is won in the trenches and this draft gives Denver the opportunity to be very good for long time there.

i like LW. But he is NOT worth moving up in the draft for. I agree. The guy from New Mexico, and mike Bell are classic examples of guys we pick.

We always end up with a great rushing attack. We need help in the DL, with our first 2 picks we can solidify our line.

[errand]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...doesn't matter if yo' grandma was our feature back....she'd still gain close to a 1,000. Draft a rookie, trade Bell, Keep Bell, trade Dayne, Keep Dayne and Bell....what's the difference? Denver will run the ball...and will run it well enough to make the playoffs again.

Denver has never had a problem producing a 1,000 yard runner since Mike took over as HC. The one year we didn't have a 1,000 yarder we had two backs gain 700 (which is the same as one back gaining 1,400).

Not to mention last season despite Alex Gibbs not being our OL coach we almost had two 1,000 yard runners which I'm sure suprised the hell outta TJ who foresaw our running game's demise a few seasons ago when Dennison was named OL coach upon Gibbs departure.

[SoDak Bronco]

IMO if we use Tatum Bell as trade bait it will be to move up in the first round 4-5 spots. ALA Deltha O'neal. If this could bump us into a position to take a Lendale White or Deangelo Williams from Memphis I would be okay with that. Both would be franchise type backs.

Then in a few years we can trade them for someone else.

[Play2win]

If there was any way we could get Deangelo Williams into Denver...

He's atleast a Cadaliac and could be another LT2...

[ozomulsion]

If there was any way we could get Deangelo Williams into Denver...

He's atleast a Cadaliac and could be another LT2...

Agreed, DeAngelo would be the only decent plan. Anyone who thinks they can judge Tatum's carreer on his first two years..... For all the Mike Bell supporters, go look at his college stats and get back to me. Tatum is going NO WHERE!

[Mr. Trout]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Not to mention last season despite Alex Gibbs not being our OL coach we almost had two 1,000 yard runners which I'm sure suprised the hell outta TJ who foresaw our running game's demise a few seasons ago when Dennison was named OL coach upon Gibbs departure.
I'm not picking on you Errand, but everyone needs to get off Gibbs sack. He has been gone for 5 years if you count the time he was not mentally here. This is Dennison's line and he has done a good job with it.

[Breck Bronc]

I'd be happy to get anything in value for Tatum at this point. He disappointed the hell out of me with his lack of attention in pass protection vs. New England and the horrible effort he made on his screen pass reception in the first quarter vs. Pittsburgh.

[Lestat]

you can't always go by college stats, Willie Parker being a prime example, granted he has 4.3 speed & Bell only 4.6 but in the denver scheme the RB must be quick & not pure speed demon

[sirhcyennek81]

you could say, that if you put TD and Clinton Portis in a foot race, clinton would have smoked TD every time. BUT, put them on a football field, and no one could catch TD from behind, while Portis seemed to every time he would break a long one.

:Broncos:

[Taco John]

Not to mention last season despite Alex Gibbs not being our OL coach we almost had two 1,000 yard runners which I'm sure suprised the hell outta TJ who foresaw our running game's demise a few seasons ago when Dennison was named OL coach upon Gibbs departure.


You need to take your meds old man. I never had any doomful running game predictions, ever. You're either dreaming something up, or just flat out lying. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and say you were dreaming.

As far as Dennison is concerned, nobody was high on him taking over for Alex Gibbs after what his special teams looked like. You sure weren't. But don't let that stop you from front running for Dennison like you knew it all along. To pin that on me only shows what a raging hard-on you have for me, and frankly, it's not mutual.

[Requiem]

Williamson is a slut. Bell isn't going to be traded. Look at his production last year.

[Requiem]

Also look at our depth, Dayne isn't re-signed yet and who else do we have? Bell has improved each year, who is to say he won't this year?

[freak6]

I think we should keep Tatum and feed him 20 times a game minimum. We can't get much more value out of him than he already gives us imo.

[sirhcyennek81]

Williamson is a slut.

never heard it put that way...

:Broncos:

[~Crash~]

One can only hope to wake up one morning with a pot of gold at the foot of their bed. That's more likely than White falling into the 20s.

LMAo famous words of a fool...Every year I hear the same thing no way will Edd Reed ever make it to the broncos pick lmao at you fool...
:strong:

[Requiem]

I was just thinking. We wouldn't get **** for Bell in trade market if you ask me. Teams could just sign a veteran like James or Alexander and not have to give up picks for one. With a market so saturated in backs, I think that drives the value of a guy like Tatum down.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I highly doubt Bell is going anywhere. He and Lelie are our only home run threats. With MA out of the picture, Bell is needed even more.

Plus I doubt we could get any more than a 3rd round pick for him.

SSJ

[eddie mac]

LMAo famous words of a fool...Every year I hear the same thing no way will Edd Reed ever make it to the broncos pick lmao at you fool...
:strong:

Hindsight is a beautiful thing but in this case you're way off. Reed wasn't ranked any higher than where he was taken.

[Broncojef]

Does tatum have value to be driven down? I hear alot of glowing things about Tatum but never see it on the field. 1,000 yards is no longer a benchmark with the Broncos. 3rd and one game on the line do any of us feel confident our running game can produce? I saw alot of failure at that point last year. I think all you'd get by feeding Tatum 20 times is more 3 and outs and perhaps a fumble. The entire running game in the play-offs showed how weak it really was, that being said I'm sure Mike has a plan.

[12th man]

Williamson is a slut. Bell isn't going to be traded. Look at his production last year.

I agree. I think his article was BS. He pulled this out of his ass. There is no valadity to his article. It's all his speculation. Williamson is stupid. Why would we trade Bell when he is 50% of our rb depth right now? Even if we do draft a rb and drade bell, we would still have two running back but lesser depth becaus of the rookies inexperence. I understand where he is coming from though. Bell is excellent trade bait, and if we lose him he is replacable because we are the broncos and anyone can run in our system. but with only two backs we have we shouldn't try to get rid of any of the two. Bell could have gotten his 1000 if he had a little bit more carries and of course not getting injured. Dayne has done well when given the oppurtunity but I would be a little nervous with him being the starter with out bell to back him up just becase we hardly see dayne get a lot of carries. I would feel a lot better if we knew for sure what dayne can do durring an entire game. But the point is Williamsons' article is just somthing to wonder about during the offseason and to give us somthing to writh about in the message boards.

[cabronco]

I dont think T. Bell is going anywhere. Like previous posts, the market is saturated with RB's. Bell doesnt strike me as one to pick up assignments, or learn running lanes to attack, like other RB's we have had. Im hoping its just a learning curve and he gets it down this year. I would rather have our sights out on DE's and a wide receiver. Then possibly a RB.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

you can't always go by college stats, Willie Parker being a prime example, granted he has 4.3 speed & Bell only 4.6 but in the denver scheme the RB must be quick & not pure speed demon

Bell ran a 4.37 at the Combine

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Hindsight is a beautiful thing but in this case you're way off. Reed wasn't ranked any higher than where he was taken.

And he was never one of the player Shanahan was considering in the 1st round that year, yet people still whine about taking Lelie and passing on Reed. If Lelie was not there, the pick would have been Javon Walker and not Reed.

[DBroncos4life]

Bell gave us just about 11 carries per game. I don't see any reason why he couldn't do that again next year even if we have a 20 to 25 carry per game guy. We have been under 34 carries per game (season avg) for the last 3 years. That would be right on par with what we do.

[broncohaven]

LMAo famous words of a fool...Every year I hear the same thing no way will Edd Reed ever make it to the broncos pick lmao at you fool...
:strong:
Safeties notriously drop on draft day, but if you think the #2 RB in the draft is going to last into the 20s there is certainly a fool in this discussion. If you'd care to make it interesting I'd happily oblige.

[BroncoBuff]

Packers can sway Favre

This week, in a nationally televised interview, quarterback Brett Favre basically said he was waiting to see what Green Bay would do in free agency and the draft before making up his mind on whether to retire.
Take that as a major hint. Favre wants to play, and he wants to play for the Packers. Why else would he wait to see how the team manages the offseason?

Call me an ingrate, but if I were a Packers fan I would say "...Sayonara. Favre-san!"

[watermock]

Addaij from LSU could definitely fit our role. The Bell kid from Arizona sounds interesting as well.

I like Bell's potential but he has to learn to run through arm tackles and he can't.

Did you see Q? Bell is peanuts on the cap, we released MA, and traded Portis a couple years ago. I don't think Williamson knows crap quite honestly. What is Bell's value? We just can't ring up Snyder this time. Dayne was taken off the street, literally. I'm not betting on a SB run until he shows he can be a feature back. Green and Alexander are off the market and I have no interest in Edge at all. I never am surprised, but this wouldn't make sense. The kid might not be a feature back, but didn't he lead the NFL in YPC in 2003? He's got low miles and is cheap. Bill doesn't know crap.

[broncohaven]

Did you see Q? Bell is peanuts on the cap, we released MA, and traded Portis a couple years ago. I don't think Williamson knows crap quite honestly. What is Bell's value? We just can't ring up Snyder this time. Dayne was taken off the street, literally. I'm not betting on a SB run until he shows he can be a feature back. Green and Alexander are off the market and I have no interest in Edge at all. I never am surprised, but this wouldn't make sense. The kid might not be a feature back, but didn't he lead the NFL in YPC in 2003? He's got low miles and is cheap. Bill doesn't know crap.
Bell didn't run for a yard in the NFL in 2003, but in 2004 and 2005 he's averaged 5.3 YPC. Not bad, but he needs to show that he can pick up 3 tough yards and carry the ball 250 times and maintain that level of production. I don't see him as being more valuable as trade bait than he is as a change of pace.

His blocking is the real reason that a trade is a possibility, and the reason he'll never be featured in Denver. Shanny can't stand guys that can't block, and Tatum can't block. Putzier is another example.

[watermock]

Bell didn't run for a yard in the NFL in 2003, but in 2004 and 2005 he's averaged 5.3 YPC. Not bad, but he needs to show that he can pick up 3 tough yards and carry the ball 250 times and maintain that level of production. I don't see him as being more valuable as trade bait than he is as a change of pace.

His blocking is the real reason that a trade is a possibility, and the reason he'll never be featured in Denver. Shanny can't stand guys that can't block, and Tatum can't block. Putzier is another example.

Fine, 2004 he led the league in YPC...fine...the point is that he can be taught to block better if he is willing...I said when he came into the league that he ran too upright. You just have to know how to use him properly and keep teaching. My point is that noone is going to give us anything more than we paid for him draftwise, and he's on a cheap second round rookie deal.

He had 183 total yards for over 1000 yards as a backup.

He gained rushing and recieving (he's not a great reciever) over 1,000 yards as a backup and you want to dump him when he's percieved as mediocre and a "product of the system"? This is after O. Gary dumped and Portis is struggling and Droughns hasn't done much? Bell has legitimate size/speed and will be fine as a role player or starter if needed.

[BroncoBuff]

*cough*StevenJackson*cough*
Dude ... we drafted GEORGE FOSTER ahead of Steven Jackson, not Tatum Bell.

We drafted D.J. Williams ahead of Tatum Bell.

[Rohirrim]

If there is one guy on this whole earth that would make me puke to see in orange and blue, it would be Jamal Lewis. He belongs in prison, not in the backfield of the Broncos.

[baja]

If there is one guy on this whole earth that would make me puke to see in orange and blue, it would be Jamal Lewis. He belongs in prison, not in the backfield of the Broncos.

The only worse choice would be ray ray

[watermock]

The only worse choice would be ray ray

It would be funny to see Big Al beat him into a wimpering, bloody nosed coward tho. Of course, he would probably go get a knife....or gun. He's a punk that is only an average player now that thought he was worth a 100m signing bonus. Sheesh...Champ got 16 million SB and that was considered very high.

[fontaine]

Bell is going nowhere.

Shanahan isn't going to start the season with only a bust and a rookie at running back.

[bendog]

Plus, Bell's cap friendly. Bill Williamson or whoever wrote this article is a tool

[watermock]

Mike wore down when he was relieved by Bell...that's over. there is no crying in football!

We will be fine at RB. We have some serious young players...Terrell, Cobbs, Duke, even Sapp and Green. maybe role players, but we have a ton of picks too.

Williamson doesn't have a clue other than the obivous. We have squirrels that get more acorns out of the woods than his fat ass will ever. You would think we could manage to get a decent reporter.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

To pin that on me only shows what a raging hard-on you have for me, and frankly, it's not mutual.

Ouch. Don't worry Errand, you'll find someone.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Dude ... we drafted GEORGE FOSTER ahead of Steven Jackson, not Tatum Bell.

We drafted D.J. Williams ahead of Tatum Bell.

DJ didn't have a real good year either, y'know.

[bronco militia]

Dude ... we drafted GEORGE FOSTER ahead of Steven Jackson, not Tatum Bell.

We drafted D.J. Williams ahead of Tatum Bell.

uhh, what?

[sirhcyennek81]

You ever notice in Williamson's byline photo, he is tryin to look sexy?

:Broncos:

[bendog]

Better than boob. btw, anyone know a source for stats breaking down linebacker's by sam will and mike?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Dude ... we drafted GEORGE FOSTER ahead of Steven Jackson, not Tatum Bell.

We drafted D.J. Williams ahead of Tatum Bell.

How about no? Jackson was in the '04 draft, just like DJ and Tatum. Foster was '03.

[Denver Crush]

I wouldnt mind trading Tater, he hasnt gelled with this team. But yeah, we should prbly keep him just in case.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

How about no? Jackson was in the '04 draft, just like DJ and Tatum. Foster was '03.

Oh man. I wish I had bothered to look that up.

[Dudeskey]

Not to mention Bell looked pretty good in that game against the Chargers. I wouldn't rule him out just yet.

If what Bill says is true, I sure don't like it. This selling RB's short buisness is starting to get old.

[BroncoBuff]

If what Bill says is true, I sure don't like it. This selling RB's short buisness is starting to get old.
I agree... they're too high profile, too much of your team identity is wrapped up in them, and we keep changing them.

Dayne/Bell sounds good to me.

Sign T.O. ...

re-sign Warren and Putzier ....

ask Champ and Jake to spread out their riches ...

and hope for a draft as good as last year.

[BroncoBuff]

How about no? Jackson was in the '04 draft, just like DJ and Tatum. Foster was '03.
OK, mea culpa. But we took Tatum ahead of Steven? Please say no.

[BroncoInferno]

OK, mea culpa. But we took Tatum ahead of Steven? Please say no.

Jackson wasn't even the #1 RB on Denver's board...Chris Perry was.

[Merlin]

OK, mea culpa. But we took Tatum ahead of Steven? Please say no.
No, we took DJ ahead of Steven (they both were in the 1st round), and considering DB's record in both areas, it would seem they were right. Bell was a 2nd round choice (they got the pick from the Skins for Portis).

[errand]

I'm not picking on you Errand, but everyone needs to get off Gibbs sack. He has been gone for 5 years if you count the time he was not mentally here. This is Dennison's line and he has done a good job with it.

I'm not picking on you, but read the post again carefully Big Guy...I've been supporting Dennison since he became our OL coach.

[errand]

You need to take your meds old man. I never had any doomful running game predictions, ever. You're either dreaming something up, or just flat out lying. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and say you were dreaming.

As far as Dennison is concerned, nobody was high on him taking over for Alex Gibbs after what his special teams looked like. You sure weren't. But don't let that stop you from front running for Dennison like you knew it all along. To pin that on me only shows what a raging hard-on you have for me, and frankly, it's not mutual.

I'm glad other posters on here can see thru your crap TJ...you've been on the wrong side of every debate with me. You blasted the promotion of Dennison and when I pointed out that the line was going to do just as good if not better you laughed and actually claimed I was dragging Alex Gibbs name thru the mud.

But like always...nobody has to take my word for it...I'm sure if they ask Popps or Wistoncup or PhillyBroncosnut they'll corraborate my story

[errand]

You need to take your meds old man. I never had any doomful running game predictions, ever. You're either dreaming something up, or just flat out lying. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and say you were dreaming.

As far as Dennison is concerned, nobody was high on him taking over for Alex Gibbs after what his special teams looked like. You sure weren't. But don't let that stop you from front running for Dennison like you knew it all along. To pin that on me only shows what a raging hard-on you have for me, and frankly, it's not mutual.

Perhaps the old "Alex Gibbs is Leaving" thread will refresh your memory clown.....

Spider said he didn't see Gibbs departure as a "sky is falling" scenario.....your reply?

"I do"

But again don't take my word for it...just go back to the thread a read it for yourself...

[24champ]

Perhaps the old "Alex Gibbs is Leaving" thread will refresh your memory clown.....

Spider said he didn't see Gibbs departure as a "sky is falling" scenario.....your reply?

"I do"

But again don't take my word for it...just go back to the thread a read it for yourself...
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=9406&highlight=Alex+Gibbs+Fired

I read the thread and I came to the conclusion TJ is a big Alex Gibbs homer.

[Rascal]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=9406&highlight=Alex+Gibbs+Fired

I read the thread and I came to the conclusion TJ is a big Alex Gibbs homer.

You are kidding right?

[fontaine]

Burger Bill must be lacing his Twinkies with LSD if he thinks we're trading Tatum Bell.

The guy is making close to rookie minimum (300,000) and totes in 8 TDs, and almost 1000 yards leading the league in yards/carry.

You just DON'T let that kinda production walk out the door, especially if you're getting it cheap.

Bell is going to win another 3/4 games for us almost single handedly like he did in 2005 and he still won't get his kudos!

[BroncoInferno]

Burger Bill must be lacing his Twinkies with LSD if he thinks we're trading Tatum Bell.

The guy is making close to rookie minimum (300,000) and totes in 8 TDs, and almost 1000 yards leading the league in yards/carry.

You just DON'T let that kinda production walk out the door, especially if you're getting it cheap.

Bell is going to win another 3/4 games for us almost single handedly like he did in 2005 and he still won't get his kudos!

It depends, fontaine. If we spend a 1st on White, Williams or Maroney, you might definately see Bell shipped off.

[fontaine]

It depends, fontaine. If we spend a 1st on White, Williams or Maroney, you might definately see Bell shipped off.

What for?

So that we can put our running game in the hands of some rookie with no backup? And please Ron Dayne is not the answer otherwise he wouldn't have been benchwarming for Tater.

Any rookie RB, no matter how highly selected has to prove he can carry the load and survive the season. What if we trade Bell only for our starting RB to miss a few games, like two season ago?

Again, it would be stupid to trade that kind of production when you're getting it at rookie minimum wage. The only consistent production from this offense is from our Running Game and I can't understand why you want to cut that down when we've already cut Mike Anderson.

[BroncoInferno]

What for?

So that we can put our running game in the hands of some rookie with no backup? And please Ron Dayne is not the answer otherwise he wouldn't have been benchwarming for Tater.

Any rookie RB, no matter how highly selected has to prove he can carry the load and survive the season. What if we trade Bell only for our starting RB to miss a few games, like two season ago?

Again, it would be stupid to trade that kind of production when you're getting it at rookie minimum wage. The only consistent production from this offense is from our Running Game and I can't understand why you want to cut that down when we've already cut Mike Anderson.

We have gotten produtction from rookie RBs four times in the Shanny era, and only one of them was a first day pick. White, Williams or Maroney would absolutely produce right off the bat in our offense. And while I'm certainly not sold on Dayne as a starter, he would work just fine as the top backup.

I'm not saying we should trade Bell, just that it isn't a stupid suggestion if we end up taking a guy in the 1st. Now, if you take White, you may want to keep Bell as a nice change of pace. But if you take Williams, Dayne makes more sense as the backup. It really depends on who and where we take a RB in the draft as to whether or not trading Bell becomes possible.

[Odysseus]

*cough*StevenJackson*cough*

Herm Edwards has politely requested that you stop throwing eggs at his house. He feels that you should at least give him a chance especially since he's signed Mr. Griffen. :rofl:

[watermock]

Willamson is a dry fart. He's out of the loop more than we are and seems rather bored with it all. Time for a change. His "articles" read like a week old paper rag. He's allready made himself a fool numerous time with idiotic speculation.

That's fine for us, but we are supposed to believe his? Pass. He's not inside, and is getting takes from other sources and calling them his own, And his "news" is a week old.

[Odysseus]

The amount of love that White gets on this board is amazing. Yes he from Denver, but he has shown nothing to indicate that he worth trading up for. Let be real, he was a good college running back on very good team but he has not proven that he any better then Bush,Williams or Maloney.

And seeing how much he weighted at the combine, I am serious concerned about his workout habits. There are a lot quality backs that we can pick later in the draft that would help us. The game is won in the trenches and this draft gives Denver the opportunity to be very good for long time there.

Broncos are great at picking RB. Why waste money?