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watermock
03-04-2006, 05:36 PM
Why can't they just throw these blood sucking lawyers out of the room before Tags turns Upshaw into Homer strangling Bart?

Evidently, the owners have met half way at 58 percent and it's going to be a windfall with a cap of around 104, PLUS all the bennies for their 401k and such...it's always amused me that they even need them in the modern era...if they are broke, they are just plain stupid...If your making 12M/per...can't you sock away a few million for the rainy day? mock said just git er' done at 58 and lets go....

A league source tells us that the NFL and its players union are getting closer and closer to reaching an agreement on an extension to the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Per the source, the two sides have tentatively agreed that 58 percent of all football revenues will be devoted to player salaries. The last remaining hurdle is the "cash over cap" limit, which is the device that the owners will utilize to ensure that franchises earning high amounts of unshared revenue cannot skew the competitive balance by making total cash payments in any given year that greatly exceed the salary cap for that season.



From the players' perspective, unlimited cash over cap helps to get more money into the hands of players sooner rather than later. In a league where the only guarantee is the money already paid, placing a limit on this device is a potentially significant concession.



For owners, an agreement limiting the extent to which a team like the Redskins can borrow against future salary caps by pouring excess money into a team that might be only a couple of parts away from a championship run will make it easier for lesser-earning teams to compete for free agents.



Still, the key factor (as we see it) is the salary floor. If teams like the Bengals and Cardinals choose to rebel against a salary cap amount driven higher by the enormous revenues generated by teams like the Redskins, the union needs to push hard for a high minimum. Currently, the minimum is based on 54 percent of the so-called defined gross revenues. We think that the new CBA should contain a per-team minimum of at least 50 percent of the total football revenues.



As to revenue sharing, our guess is that the NFL will continue its current system of equally sharing amounts that presently equate to roughly 80 percent of all dollars earned. The league also is likely to tinker with its supplemental revenue sharing system, which already provides additional money to teams with a defined need for it. Moving forward, our guess is that the NFL will tweak the formula for determining whether a team is entitled to supplemental revenue sharing -- and will require that the team demonstrate some tangible desire and effort to enhance its own revenues before the team will be eligible to share even more of the money earned by others.

ICON
03-04-2006, 06:19 PM
Union lawyer Jeffrey Kessler, a lead negotiator for the NFLPA, said that the talks "are as dead as a doornail."

Kessler told ESPN that this is "a sad day for the NFL."

Kessler said there is no plan for resumption of talks, and that executive director of the NFL Players Association Gene Upshaw is on his way back to Washington, D.C.

The talks that took place today from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. concluded "because the NFL is unwilling to compromise," Kessler said.




This seems to be where all the doomsday stuff is coming from, but Kessler is a UNION LAWYER. It's his JOB to bluff.

Representatives from teams withheld comment, waiting to see if an agreement could be reached by midnight Sunday to avert what could be mass cuts of veterans to get under a salary cap that will be about $10 million less than anticipated.

Earlier in the week, negotiations broke off and the league set the salary cap for free agency at $94.5 million. Teams with a salary load far higher than that had anticipated an agreement that could have given them extra room to keep veterans.



In the end, I think THIS is the issue that will cause the deal to get done. Do you really think the NFL wants a marquee team like the Washington Redskins to have trouble even assembling a roster?


Upshaw said after the earlier talks broke off that the NFL was offering 56.2 percent of its total revenues to the players. Upshaw has said he will not go under 60 percent.

In Friday's negotiations, sources told Mortensen that the owners narrowed the gap on the percentage that players are demanding with a CBA extension. Management raised the ante by two points, offering players a 58.2 percent cut of the revenue pie. The union has been set at a 60.3 percentage, but could compromise depending on the revenue sharing model.

As incentive to get the two sides to reach an agreement, the owners also offered the players a $10 million increase in this year's salary cap under an extension, from $94.5 million to about $105 million. That will require an adjustment in appropriations of TV revenues, but that is somewhat easily accomplished, a source told Mortensen. Without a reappropriation of those revenues, the salary cap is projected at about $100 million with an extension.




Okay...this seems to be a more accurate take on where this thing is right now. The owners going up to 58.2 is HUGE...and I think the union will, in the end, concede its own two points.


Several management sources have confirmed that despite the show of solidarity presented on Thursday morning following an owners' meeting, if there is no CBA extension, it will be because of disagreement among owners on the principles of revenue sharing.

Upshaw has always wanted that issue decided first among the owners in these last-minute talks, which began Friday after the deadline for free agency was extended three days from Friday at 12:01 a.m. ET until Monday at the same time.



My prediction is that they will agree on the percentages of revenue, sign off on the new CBA, up the salary cap to $105 million, and deal with the revenue sharing as a seperate issue. Upshaw will be forced to face reality - the issue is far to complex to be solved with "last-minute talks".

watermock
03-04-2006, 06:39 PM
Union lawyer Jeffrey Kessler, a lead negotiator for the NFLPA, said that the talks "are as dead as a doornail."

Kessler told ESPN that this is "a sad day for the NFL."

Kessler said there is no plan for resumption of talks, and that executive director of the NFL Players Association Gene Upshaw is on his way back to Washington, D.C.

The talks that took place today from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. concluded "because the NFL is unwilling to compromise," Kessler said.

Excuse me you blood sucking leech...but the NFL raised the offer from 56 to 58 percent

watermock
03-04-2006, 06:47 PM
Representatives from teams withheld comment, waiting to see if an agreement could be reached by midnight Sunday to avert what could be mass cuts of veterans to get under a salary cap that will be about $10 million less than anticipated.


It doen't matter to the lawyers at all...they will suck off the teat as long as they can. You could have a lawyer representing the NFL or the NFLPA on different years and he would be equally hostile.

The fact is, the owners hit them half way, and they didn't budge and this clown who has probably never seen a game dismisses it.

elsid13
03-04-2006, 06:50 PM
I really think that if they (owners and players) F this up, that the federal government should impose a settlement. Yes it can be legally done. The anti-trust exemption should be welded like iron club over all parties. Cann't come to agreement, the Feds will help you, bozo.

broncogary
03-04-2006, 07:39 PM
Why can't they just throw these blood sucking lawyers out of the room before Tags turns Upshaw into Homer strangling Bart?

Evidently, the owners have met half way at 58 percent and it's going to be a windfall with a cap of around 104, PLUS all the bennies for their 401k and such...it's always amused me that they even need them in the modern era...if they are broke, they are just plain stupid...If your making 12M/per...can't you sock away a few million for the rainy day? mock said just git er' done at 58 and lets go....

A league source tells us that the NFL and its players union are getting closer and closer to reaching an agreement on an extension to the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Per the source, the two sides have tentatively agreed that 58 percent of all football revenues will be devoted to player salaries. The last remaining hurdle is the "cash over cap" limit, which is the device that the owners will utilize to ensure that franchises earning high amounts of unshared revenue cannot skew the competitive balance by making total cash payments in any given year that greatly exceed the salary cap for that season.



From the players' perspective, unlimited cash over cap helps to get more money into the hands of players sooner rather than later. In a league where the only guarantee is the money already paid, placing a limit on this device is a potentially significant concession.



For owners, an agreement limiting the extent to which a team like the Redskins can borrow against future salary caps by pouring excess money into a team that might be only a couple of parts away from a championship run will make it easier for lesser-earning teams to compete for free agents.



Still, the key factor (as we see it) is the salary floor. If teams like the Bengals and Cardinals choose to rebel against a salary cap amount driven higher by the enormous revenues generated by teams like the Redskins, the union needs to push hard for a high minimum. Currently, the minimum is based on 54 percent of the so-called defined gross revenues. We think that the new CBA should contain a per-team minimum of at least 50 percent of the total football revenues.



As to revenue sharing, our guess is that the NFL will continue its current system of equally sharing amounts that presently equate to roughly 80 percent of all dollars earned. The league also is likely to tinker with its supplemental revenue sharing system, which already provides additional money to teams with a defined need for it. Moving forward, our guess is that the NFL will tweak the formula for determining whether a team is entitled to supplemental revenue sharing -- and will require that the team demonstrate some tangible desire and effort to enhance its own revenues before the team will be eligible to share even more of the money earned by others.

Where did you quote this from? This makes way too much sense for you.

sirhcyennek81
03-04-2006, 07:41 PM
be proud. sun shines on every dog's ass every once and awhile.

:Broncos: