Broncos under cap with cuts; Lepsis deal to be finalized.

[Requiem]

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_3559085

Well, that's some good news. Get Warren to agree to a deal as well, and we should be fine, just fine. *sighs* Keep postive, keep it POSITIVE.

[Mile High Shack]

there will be more money to play with once Brown restructures and we sign Warren as long term as we can

Herc hit it dead on

[Requiem]

I figured as much too, as I knew if we met deals with Lepsis and Warren, it'd free up space. Here's to success!

[Rascal]

A new contract for left tackle Matt Lepsis, which is expected to be finalized today, will be structured in a way that will increase the Broncos' cap room.

YEAH!!!!

[BroncoInferno]

This had to be done. Lepsis was imperative. Sarge, Pryce and Putz will be missed, but can be replaced. Now get Warren done!

[watermock]

If I were anywhere near Upshaw I would punch him straight in the nose...

There are going to be alot of pissed off players/coaches/owners after today...he better find a big rock to hide behind....

what an idiot...this deal was done...

[watermock]

Lepsis was a done deal...they were just waiting on the CBA on which way to do it.

Warren wants to stay but is more problematic...Brown who knows...Sundy is a busy boy today I'm sure...

[OrangeShadow]

sad to see them go but lepsis and warren are more important

[eddie mac]

So ESPN and Clayton were right. They had us $16.4m over a $92m cap.

[Elway777]

I hope the Broncos resign Marine Mike but Pryce and Putzier will most likly get bigger contract offers then the Broncos will pay.Warner and Brown also have big cap numbers and once they resign new contracts or are cut the Bronco should have some money to play with in free agency. The only promblem is that players can only sign 4 year deal so it will be hard to back load contracts.Andre Carter , Jurevicus,and Dayne to Denver would be nice.

[Odysseus]

Wow. This is the second time Lepsis has cost us a running back. What's up with that?

[eddie mac]

Wow. This is the second time Lepsis has cost us a running back. What's up with that?

I'd rather blame it on Upshaw than Matt.

[chrisp]

After all that doom & gloom, however, remember....a cap-less 2007 - so after we've won the superbowl we get to keep all our players ;D

...but then the others add a bunch more to their rosters...oh hang on, maybe that's not so good after all

...my brain hurts now...thank god England beat Uruguay tonight...

[Clockwork Orange]

Under the cap before getting into the possibility of restructuring guys like Plummer, Smith, Bailey and Wilson. Nice.

[Atlas]

Wow. This is the second time Lepsis has cost us a running back. What's up with that?

the first time was SOB's fault

[eddie mac]

Under the cap before getting into the possibility of restructuring guys like Plummer, Smith, Bailey and Wilson. Nice.

I dont even know if they'll attempt that bro and whether the 30% rule would apply because of the alterations to their contracts.

[eddie mac]

After all that doom & gloom, however, remember....a cap-less 2007 - so after we've won the superbowl we get to keep all our players ;D

...but then the others add a bunch more to their rosters...oh hang on, maybe that's not so good after all

...my brain hurts now...thank god England beat Uruguay tonight...

Left it late didn't they. Crouch is gonna be some option coming off the bench in the World Cup finals.

[clint7]

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_3559085

Well, that's some good news. Get Warren to agree to a deal as well, and we should be fine, just fine. *sighs* Keep postive, keep it POSITIVE.


Where in the story does it say anything about Lepsis and his deal? I'm not seeing it with that link?

[orange crusher]

Just sign the damn contract Matt!

[eddie mac]

Where in the story does it say anything about Lepsis and his deal? I'm not seeing it with that link?

They've omitted the original paragraph about Lepsis, hope to hell that isn't a bad sign.

[clint7]

They've omitted the original paragraph about Lepsis, hope to hell that isn't a bad sign.

Uh, oh. :(

[Hercules Rockefeller]

So ESPN and Clayton were right. They had us $16.4m over a $92m cap.

and so were Williamson and Legwold in everything they printed up until this morning. I wonder what caused them to change their mind?

[~Crash~]

well I hate lepsis even a little more.....

[eddie mac]

well I hate lepsis even a little more.....

Did you expect him to sign a $2m contract or something? This is down to the player's union and the owners of the top $$ teams depending on which source you read.

[eddie mac]

and so were Williamson and Legwold in everything they printed up until this morning. I wonder what caused them to change their mind?

Their brains are probably wrecked from the accounting. It's been a bit more detailed this year than previous ones. By the way Herc see when a team places a tag on a player be it franchise or transition, does that hit take effect immediately or when the player signs the deal?

[Kaylore]

Excellent. Very good news. Everything else at this point is just gravy for me.

[DomCasual]

So, what happens if the owners and NFLPA are able to rework a last-minute deal now? Will we resign these guys?

If the cap all of a sudden jumps from $92 million to $105-$108 million, then we just did Putz, Pryce, and Mike a big, big favor. It seems like that would turn into the perfect storm for free agents.

[clint7]

CBA or not, I was ready to let the Pryce ship sail into the sunset.

CBA or not, I'd like Mike to be back but understand the move.

CBA or not, Putz has gotta be an all-around TE to get the dough and snaps he wants. If Brewster can't turn the guy into a stand-out TE, don't know who can.

[TALON]

Upshaw is getting screams on his phone right about now.
He's about to feel the pressure of men without jobs, as well as men who thought they were gonna get paid, instead will have to play for a team at below market price.

Bloody Thursday.......Bloody Thursday................

[ludo21]

GR8 News!!!!

Finally Pryces Houdini act is gone, i liked him, but he obviously was losing it this year. Sucks to see MA go, but its obvious he too is on the downside of his career. Duke is farther along than most thought. NFLE will be big for him.

Get Lepsis deal done, plzzzzzzz

[~Crash~]

from the retactions Matt has already changed his mind on signing with the Broncos good I hate his ass

[ludo21]

from the retactions Matt has already changed his mind on signing with the Broncos good I hate his ass


???

What LT is better suited for us. Matt has been awesome, VERY underrated. He is our #1 priority imo.

[Kaylore]

from the retactions Matt has already changed his mind on signing with the Broncos good I hate his ass
What? He isn't signing with us? And why do you hate Lepsis?

[Liebs]

we need to draft a young stud on the D line now

[~Crash~]

lepsis cost us over and over though the years yes he was darn good this year .but how many games did he cost us through the years? before moving over to LT he was just so so now he has a very quick QB that makes his ass look good. I remember all his meltdowns at right tackle when we had greise in there so if the houston texans want him they're nuts because carr ain't all that fleet of foot. So what i'm trying to tell you is without jake you would be hearing for matt lepsis's head instead he's all pro which i don't believe. he is an average player at his position at best.

[baja]

Ever team will be cash strapped bad news for the guys cut. Maybe we can sign Trevor to a sweet deal for the Broncos.

[ludo21]

everyones got their opinion, thats for sure. CAnt wait to see how TEd and Shanyn play this one out. They always do a good job, so we will see.

[RMT]

This had to be done. Lepsis was imperative. Sarge, Pryce and Putz will be missed, but can be replaced. Now get Warren done!

I'll miss Anderson but not Pryce or Putz. We'll be stronger in those two positions with them gone.

[Kaylore]

lepsis cost us over and over though the years yes he was darn good this year .but how many games did he cost us through the years? before moving over to LT he was just so so now he has a very quick QB that makes his ass look good. I remember all his meltdowns at right tackle when we had greise in there so if the houston texans want him they're nuts because carr ain't all that fleet of foot. So what i'm trying to tell you is without jake you would be hearing for matt lepsis's head instead he's all pro which i don't believe. he is an average player at his position at best. Lepsis has improved his game since the Griese days, and while Jake's ability to get rid of the ball and escape the pass rush helps, he's not the only reason our sacks are lower. And that doesn't explain why our rushing attack is more effective up the left side.

I think you're just pissed about TD.

And in response to you giant sentence up above:

[baja]

Dayne will be a better Anderson

[SoCalBronco]

All I know is that we better get that second compensatory third like last year, now.

[~Crash~]

Lepsis has improved his game since the Griese days, and while Jake's ability to get rid of the ball and escape the pass rush helps, he's not the only reason our sacks are lower. And that doesn't explain why our rushing attack is more effective up the left side.

I think you're just pissed about TD.

And in response to you giant sentence up above:

We I dont like that he cut short the best RB we have ever had on our team. but you are wrong lepsis has not gotten better ! same old guy put someone in there that dont have a name like snake and Lepsis would be a bum!

[~Crash~]

also I have stood up for Lepsis before him wanting a base salary of 5 mill a year he is not worth it . 14 mill signing bounus the guy does not hold his blocks long enough . why is jake only so so in the pocket ....

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

We I dont like that he cut short the best RB we have ever had on our team. but you are wrong lepsis has not gotten better ! same old guy put someone in there that dont have a name like snake and Lepsis would be a bum!


sorry, but you are way out of touch 56.

[ozomulsion]

sorry, but you are way out of touch 56.

Understatment of the year. :P

[montrose]

I'd like Lepsis back for continuity among the line but do believe he is overrated. Getting the job done more times than not does not make you a great Left Tackle. A great Left Tackle would give Jake plenty of time in the pocket WITHOUT a playaction fake on a 7 step drop, Lepsis can't do that.

[~Crash~]

lmao I have been wrong before but it sounds like you guys are always right .

at this point we have 2 TE with 2 catchs between them this year I am soooo happy about that I am so glad you are also . and thanks to you guys I like SA as our starting TE it now gives me goose bumps in anticapation.

[~Crash~]

I'd like Lepsis back for continuity among the line but do believe he is overrated. Getting the job done more times than not does not make you a great Left Tackle. A great Left Tackle would give Jake plenty of time in the pocket WITHOUT a playaction fake on a 7 step drop, Lepsis can't do that.

Oh no montrose he is all world!!! he can hold a block with the best of them you are way out of touch .;D :thumbs:

[ozomulsion]

lmao I have been wrong before but it sounds like you guys are always right .

at this point we have 2 TE with 2 catchs between them this year I am soooo happy about that I am so glad you are also . and thanks to you guys I like SA as our starting TE it now gives me goose bumps in anticapation.

Like I said, we don't know who we are going to sign or draft. You're acting like these are the final cuts going into the season. In Shanny we trust right? Guess not....

[~Crash~]

well I dont like the move I stand buy that . SA was our big signing last year At TE and the year before we spent a fortune on another TE and cut him well you are right mike has a great record with TE 's heck that year he cut Shannon Sharp was the best move ever just ask the raven's fans how that worked out...

[Ratboy]

Sign G. Dubya and i'll be happy.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

By the way Herc see when a team places a tag on a player be it franchise or transition, does that hit take effect immediately or when the player signs the deal?

Immediately, the team can revoke it until the player signs it.

[Mr. Trout]

Warren is so freakin overrated and about to collect more money than he deserves. Then he can go back to being a slug, busted draft pick.

[bronco militia]

They've omitted the original paragraph about Lepsis, hope to hell that isn't a bad sign.

yep....there is no mention of Lepsis in that article anymore....looks like the DPO jumped the gun.

[Hulamau]

lepsis cost us over and over though the years yes he was darn good this year .but how many games did he cost us through the years? before moving over to LT he was just so so now he has a very quick QB that makes his ass look good. I remember all his meltdowns at right tackle when we had greise in there so if the houston texans want him they're nuts because carr ain't all that fleet of foot. So what i'm trying to tell you is without jake you would be hearing for matt lepsis's head instead he's all pro which i don't believe. he is an average player at his position at best.


I disagree we lose lepsis we have a much tougher chance of making it back to the AFC championship game again this year. It takes a couple years to get really primed and in sync in this type of unusual blocking scheme so we must keep Lepsis and these other guys on teh O-line and ADD to them in the draft and/or FA.

I dont mind drafting a new guy to eventually take his place but no rookie is going to start on our line and we have to win THIS yar or the next at the latest before this version of the Broncos starts to come apart.

I dont mind seeing Pryce gone as he seemed like a barely motivated borderline slacker last year.

Its gonna be real interesting to see what we do over the next few days.

Damn Gene Upshaw!~

[Atlas]

Ever team will be cash strapped bad news for the guys cut. Maybe we can sign Trevor to a sweet deal for the Broncos.


Not really there are 6 or 7 teams that are at least $10 million under the cap. I think Minnesota is $23 million under.

[Atlas]

Warren is so freakin overrated and about to collect more money than he deserves. Then he can go back to being a slug, busted draft pick.

I disagree with that. He was Denver's best DL last year. He collapsed the pocket quite frequently. I do think maybe there is legitimate concern for him to become "lazy" again if he gets a new contract, but who knows.

[Requiem]

Crazy how they got rid of that Lepsis stuff. Well, anyways, if we do lose Lepsis, meh -- it's time to get youthful. We can draft Eric Winston out of Miami, he sort of looks like Lepsis, right? No?

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/16/167609.jpg http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Team/lepsis_mug.jpg

Hehe.

[Kaylore]

Crazy how they got rid of that Lepsis stuff. Well, anyways, if we do lose Lepsis, meh -- it's time to get youthful. We can draft Eric Winston out of Miami, he sort of looks like Lepsis, right? No?

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/16/167609.jpg http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Team/lepsis_mug.jpg

Hehe.
More 'cane o-linemen? I'm still curious about Chris Myers.

[Requiem]

Winston's a solid prospect, had he not had his injury, he's a definite top ten, fifteen selection. Maybe SoCal would elaborate on that if he sees this, but I think he'd agree with me that Winston would be a pretty good pick for the Broncos and good value towards the end of round one.

[Requiem]

Not to mention, Winston really impressed at the combine, ran a good 40 time, and was tops in most all the agility drills. If we don't get something done with Lepsis, I'd like to take this guy.

[SoCalBronco]

Winston's a solid prospect, had he not had his injury, he's a definite top ten, fifteen selection. Maybe SoCal would elaborate on that if he sees this, but I think he'd agree with me that Winston would be a pretty good pick for the Broncos and good value towards the end of round one.

Eric Winston circa 2003 would provide a strong challenge to D'Brickashaw Ferguson as the best offensive lineman in this draft. He came along a little slowly last year, slower than I hoped in his recovery. He showed his athleticism as a former college (2002) and five star high school TE in the Offensive Line drills at the combine. His knee isnt 100 percent yet though. He is getting there but still has some work to go as he struggled a little bit with the speedy DEs at the Senior Bowl. Back in 03, no one could get past him. His feet were so good. Once he gets back to that level, the team that gets him would have gotten a Top 5 talent.

Ofcourse, any discussion of Winston necessarily is intertwined with the fate of Matt Lepsis. We'll see. I'd love to have a potentially franchise left tackle (despite Mike Mayock's comment that he will be a RT, since it is based on what we see from Winston now, slightly over a year from his ACL injury. We know those take time. He should get back to that 2003 form, either this year or next year ) and a leader like Eric on the ballclub.

[Rascal]

Let's see...if we cut Lepsis and Warren along with the cuts already made today we have some serious holes to fill.

TE
DT
DE
OT
RB

That is just too many holes to fill in one offseason. IMO we can't afford nor have the ability to fill all those holes.

[sirhcyennek81]

Warren is so freakin overrated and about to collect more money than he deserves. Then he can go back to being a slug, busted draft pick.


Uh huh...so I suppose Richard Seymour, former 1st round pick, with similar stats to warren is a slug, and a bust? The difference between a dline without warren and one with him is 3 wins and 13 more int's...but hey, whatever.

:Broncos:

[SoCalBronco]

Let's see...if we cut Lepsis and Warren along with the cuts already made today we have some serious holes to fill.

TE
DT
DE
OT
RB

That is just too many holes to fill in one offseason. IMO we can't afford nor have the ability to fill all those holes.

Well, if we dont resign Lepsis or Warren, per Herc's commentary, we would be well, well under the cap. Denver could afford to be a player in the FA market perhaps to the extent that we could at least seriously address 2 of those 5 needs. The other 3 we can address in the draft with the either 7 or 8 selections in the first four rounds. I would be pretty surprised if we end up with neither Lepsis or Warren though.

[Atlas]

Let's see...if we cut Lepsis and Warren along with the cuts already made today we have some serious holes to fill.

TE
DT
DE
OT
RB

That is just too many holes to fill in one offseason. IMO we can't afford nor have the ability to fill all those holes.

I'm sure Denver assumes they have players already on the roster to fill those holes.
Bell and Dayne
Ecuban, Brown
Duke, Jackson, Alexander

If those players step up the holes are not bad at all.

[sirhcyennek81]

Would never call RB a hole on the Broncos roster. No such thing. Means denver will probably draft a back. Tight end is another one. Means we have no clue what direction we go in the draft this year. Typical Shanahan...

:Broncos:

[DBroncos4life]

Let's see...if we cut Lepsis and Warren along with the cuts already made today we have some serious holes to fill.

TE
DT
DE
OT
RB

That is just too many holes to fill in one offseason. IMO we can't afford nor have the ability to fill all those holes.

Lets see, Byrd or Klo in the third, Jesse Mahelona in the second, Kiwi in the first, Winston Justice or Eric Winston in the first, and Mike Bell with our comp third if we get one. Problem solved. :yayaya:

[watermock]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2889&dateline=1140558219

Now that's a hole I could fill...

[Atlas]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2889&dateline=1140558219

Now that's a hole I could fill...

Mock your too old for her!!!

Her is one for you. Feel free to use her as your avatar if you want.
http://143.43.32.227/uploadedImages/center/Subfolder/bea.arthur.177x192.jpg

[watermock]

http://143.43.32.227/uploadedImages/center/Subfolder/bea.arthur.177x192.jpg

Take what you can get I guess...

[eddie mac]

Let's see...if we cut Lepsis and Warren along with the cuts already made today we have some serious holes to fill.

TE
DT
DE
OT
RB

That is just too many holes to fill in one offseason. IMO we can't afford nor have the ability to fill all those holes.

Bro if we re-sign neither of them we'll be $15-$16m under the cap. With the rookie pool around $4m and the current restricted $$ market we could get 4 decent FA's out of that including a huge one! hint hint Abraham.

[eddie mac]

If we ended up with that cap room we'd be the biggest player in FA because unlike most of the other teams around $20m under mark or over we actually spend every penny and never have been tight with signing bonuses.

[BigPlayShay]

This article from the Post today again mentions that a deal for Lepsis should be finalized today:

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_3560165


Denver is expected to gain more cap room today when a restructured contract for offensive tackle Matt Lepsis is finalized. That still leaves the Broncos with only a few million dollars to play with as they prepare for the free-agent signing period that opens Friday and the NFL draft in April, when they will have two first-round picks.

[Rascal]

Hmmm....

It appears that they have retracted a bit of their story (the original one) and pulled the part about Lepsis. Not a good sign IMO.

It's 4 eastern, deadline been extended till 10pm eastern, so we have 6 more hours but I would like to hear about their (Lepsis and Warren) deals being completed soon.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

This article from the Post today again mentions that a deal for Lepsis should be finalized today:

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_3560165

No comment about Warren makes me nervous

[~Crash~]

I say we go after a real tackle shields

[Clockwork Orange]

I say we go after a real tackle shields

Shields is a guard.

[Play2win]

Shields is a guard.
OUCH!!!

[Gcver2ver3]

Shields is a guard.



oops...

[Paladin]

Sign G. Dubya and i'll be happy.

Yep. Need a tackling dummy.

[~Crash~]

well that just shows how much I like the chives lol also I was jokeing I want to keep lepsis just not at 5mill base salary