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Rock Chalk

03-01-2006, 02:23 PM

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,18457,00.html

Big surprise. guns at a rap concert.

NaptownChief

03-01-2006, 02:30 PM

So they have dumb a$$ thug gangsters in the UK also...Glad to know that stupidity isn't exclusive to the States.

dbfan4life

03-01-2006, 02:30 PM

Does stuff like this happen in England, too? I'd half expect to happen in the US, but in England?

Bronx33

03-01-2006, 02:32 PM

Does stuff like this happen in England, too? I'd half expect to happen in the US, but in England?

Sure there are morons everywhere.

epicSocialism4tw

03-01-2006, 02:34 PM

"Kanye West (http://www.eonline.com/Facts/People/Bio/0,128,73029,00.html) fans were expecting to hear "Testify." Now they may have to do it."

That's a classic line right there.

watermock

03-01-2006, 02:37 PM

http://www.bangcartoon.com/

Lower right...ready set, riot.

Smiling Assassin27

03-01-2006, 02:43 PM

Kanye West hates English people...

OrangeShadow

03-01-2006, 03:08 PM

Big surprise. guns at a rap concert.

Thats probably the most ignorant and stereotypical thing ive ever read.

watermock

03-01-2006, 03:11 PM

Thats probably the most ignorant and stereotypical thing ive ever read.

Baloney....violence at rap concerts along with guns is very common...what planet are you on?

OrangeShadow

03-01-2006, 03:13 PM

Baloney....violence at rap concerts along with guns is very common...what planet are you on?

It happens,i wouldnt call it VERY common. but it sounds just like the people who say "rap isnt music"

ozomulsion

03-01-2006, 03:14 PM

Thats probably the most ignorant and stereotypical thing ive ever read.

:spit: I think not. Ha!

watermock

03-01-2006, 03:17 PM

It happens,i wouldnt call it VERY common. but it sounds just like the people who say "rap isnt music"

Your catching on...Rap sucks. And it's barely music...noone said that...so I will...it's absurd, and every time some boom blaster comes down my quiet street to avoid the cops it pisses me off.

I could care less your opinion. Look...a punk came back packing a gun and shot people at a concert...fine...as far as the gendre...I could care less...just don't drive down my street at 5,000 watts making me listen to that crap.

Mile High Shack

03-01-2006, 03:18 PM

It happens,i wouldnt call it VERY common. but it sounds just like the people who say "rap isnt music"

at a rap concert

I'd say it's more prevalent than your average rock concert

Smiling Assassin27

03-01-2006, 03:22 PM

saw more walkers than guns at an REO Speedwagon concert...

OrangeShadow

03-01-2006, 03:22 PM

rap is barley music? ok then whats country,every song a guy sings about losing his wife,house,car and dog its all the same.

Smiling Assassin27

03-01-2006, 03:25 PM

yes, but the musicality required to actually play an instrument exists in non-rap genres. ripping a riff from Van Halen, programming a repetitive beat, and talking over it does not.

Crushaholic

03-01-2006, 03:26 PM

rap is barley music? ok then whats country,every song a guy sings about losing his wife,house,car and dog its all the same.

There used to be a joke going around that if you play a country song backwards, they would get their wife, dog, and house back. Of course, that was in the era of records and record players...ROFL!

Master___Pain

03-01-2006, 03:27 PM

Oh Christ, not this ridiculous circular arguement again.

Sideburn

03-01-2006, 04:23 PM

yes, but the musicality required to actually play an instrument exists in non-rap genres. ripping a riff from Van Halen, programming a repetitive beat, and talking over it does not.
quoted for truth...oh and wings suck!

broncosteven

03-01-2006, 04:23 PM

I always pack heat when I go to a James Taylor Concert. Never know when I have to "Represent" & Throw down. THat is how I roll...

ro_50

03-01-2006, 04:26 PM

I'm a hip hop fan but not a big fan of Kanye. I dont like gangsta rap either. Hip Hop and rap like that to often at times gets mixed together and thats not right.

I listen to Common, Mos Def, KRS-One, Tali Kwali, and R&B, Marvin Gaye, Al Green, Otis Redding.

watermock

03-01-2006, 04:31 PM

Al Green is a monster!

FantomForce

03-01-2006, 04:37 PM

This just in English people hate black people

Victor

03-01-2006, 04:37 PM

It happens,i wouldnt call it VERY common. but it sounds just like the people who say "rap isnt music"

Rap isn't music.

Fusionfrontman

03-01-2006, 05:11 PM

Oh no..1st off all of you are wrong. Country music is great
and GOOD rap is GOOD. bubble gum/disposable rap is not.

"Rap isn't music"
Good to see the old men get their walkers out and get on young America ;)
Im a rocker n roller for life get it straight..but I'm a music fan too. It's fun being open minded

ro_50

03-01-2006, 05:17 PM

OrangeShadow

03-01-2006, 05:18 PM

Rap isn't music.

See thats just being ignorant. People who simply say that more than likely havent heard anything but hardcore "gangster rap". Have you ever heard of the roots? jurassic 5? common? mos def? talib kweli? I doubt it. You more than likely have no idea the messages in their songs. You guys seem to be locked into a point of view that every rap song is about cars women and money. If you listened to some of the artists i mentioned youd realize its so much more.

Victor

03-01-2006, 05:32 PM

GonzoLays

03-01-2006, 06:20 PM

Fusionfrontman

03-01-2006, 06:23 PM

ro 50...btw good choice in music. not sure where ottis redding or al Green..while being INCREDIBLE artists they are, have any merit in this convo.
I mean i love Jackie Wilson, Tempts, Four tops, Stevie Wonder ect..but they dont belong in this convo.
and YES rap is more than about bling bling and bitches and hoes. Its just a shame that THAT is the kind of rap that comes to mind cuss like I said, it's bubble gum disposable garbage that floods the airwaves.
Particulary Kayne West or 2Pac who rap about issues that, personally touch me. Life Goes on, Dear Mama, Roses, Hey Mama, Jesus Walks..spiritual stuff in general gets me. So yeah

Sorry about all the horrible spelling, on these boards, whilein an english major, i prefer to go with the online talk. :p

Fusionfrontman

03-01-2006, 06:26 PM

Ha! What about Woodstock 96 when all those crazy kids looted and burned down the place? Can't blame that one on rap. And what about mosh pits at "rock" concerts where the kids beat the living crap out of each other? One kid died in a mosh pit beatdown at a Smashing Pumpkin's concert in Ireland.

I guess we need to ban "hardcore" music because stupid people i.e. moshers and gun totting hooligans can't control themselves.

Well in general people who go to concerts are young testosterone filled young men, so violence is more likely to break out. And seriously, lets face it, its more prone at a Kayne West concert than it is a KISS concert, and its more likely to happen at a KISS concert than at a Cat Stevens show.
It's not being racist.
Neither are the guys who started the whole "Wwhat a suprise comment" but it gets taken that way.

GonzoLays

03-01-2006, 06:31 PM

Well in general people who go to concerts are young testosterone filled young men, so violence is more likely to break out. And seriously, lets face it, its more prone at a Kayne West concert than it is a KISS concert, and its more likely to happen at a KISS concert than at a Cat Stevens show.
It's not being racist.
Neither are the guys who started the whole "Wwhat a suprise comment" but it gets taken that way.

Yea, I don't see too many 45 year olds moshing at a Kiss concert. Rap and heavy metal are equally as dangerous to go to.

Fusionfrontman

03-01-2006, 06:51 PM

Yea, I don't see too many 45 year olds moshing at a Kiss concert. Rap and heavy metal are equally as dangerous to go to.

Well not as far as moshing, but in anger you'd be suprised. Old guys trying to relive their glory tough days..and no im not talking about KISS lol.
They pick fights cuss one dude is looking at some other dudes slutty, this leather is too tight for my love handles looking wife and brawl ensues.
Or cuss the young whipersnapper like myself refuses to sit in a seat during a concert. Wants to stand up and enjoy it, and thus gets into arguments with old guy behind me

Rock Chalk

03-01-2006, 08:39 PM

Thats probably the most ignorant and stereotypical thing ive ever read.
And clearly you have never been to a rap concert.

Rock Chalk

03-01-2006, 08:45 PM

It happens,i wouldnt call it VERY common. but it sounds just like the people who say "rap isnt music"
It happens at every rap concert. Stereotypical or not, I can gaurantee you, you will not find a rap concert in this country and, apparently England as well, where there isn't a single illegal gun in the whole place.

That's just ****ing la la land.

spdirty

03-01-2006, 08:58 PM

See thats just being ignorant. People who simply say that more than likely havent heard anything but hardcore "gangster rap". Have you ever heard of the roots? jurassic 5? common? mos def? talib kweli? I doubt it. You more than likely have no idea the messages in their songs. You guys seem to be locked into a point of view that every rap song is about cars women and money. If you listened to some of the artists i mentioned youd realize its so much more.

Thanks for enlightening me. I just thought it was about hos, pimps, rims, 40s, weed, shiney things (thats English for 'bling bling'), and, well, guns. Oh, and "killin the pigs and snitches."

Malcontent

03-01-2006, 09:11 PM

Im over 40 yrs old and still go to rock concerts regularly...U2, RUSH, Aerosmith, etc.. never entered my mind that a gun might go off. If I were at a rap concert(highly unlikely), I would have eyez in the back of my head for sure..

Sgt Sauce

03-01-2006, 09:41 PM

RIP Bushwick Bill and Easy E

ozomulsion

03-01-2006, 09:43 PM

RIP Bushwick Bill and Easy E

^5

TexanBob

03-02-2006, 12:41 AM

"I went to a Kanye West concert and a bloody soccer riot broke out."

watermock

03-02-2006, 01:17 AM

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41383000/jpg/_41383284_weaver_ap_203.jpg

He smiled to the very end...

Mr. Trout

03-02-2006, 04:23 AM

so im taking it kanye didn't get capped? dammit.

OrangeShadow

03-02-2006, 04:43 AM

Thanks for enlightening me. I just thought it was about hos, pimps, rims, 40s, weed, shiney things (thats English for 'bling bling'), and, well, guns. Oh, and "killin the pigs and snitches."

For the mostpart,mainstream is but then again mainstream sucks.

Cleo McDowell

03-08-2006, 11:58 PM

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,18457,00.html

Big surprise. guns at a rap concert.

Hi Mr. O'Reilly!

happend a while ago but i came across this , and reminded me. had to bump.

Big surprise, at a rock concert.

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000510.html

Pantera Member, Dimebag Darrell Abbott, Among Five People Shot And Killed At Columbus Ohio Show

Dimebag Darrell Abbott, a member of the heavy l band Pantera, was shot and killed at a Columbus show when a gunman ran onto the stage and started shooting at the guitarist and into the crowd.

(NBC)

Five people died, including the alleged gunman who reportedly jumped on a concert stage and opened fire, NBC 4 reported.
The shooting took place shortly after 10 p.m. at Alrosa Villa, located at 5055 Sinclair Rd.

A crowd of about 250 people was inside for a concert by Damageplan, a heavy l band. Two former members of the band Pantera formed the group.

The band took the stage shortly after 10 p.m., and minutes later, a man, who was wearing a hockey jersey and hooded sweatshirt, began firing at point-blank range at least four times at guitarist Dimebag Darrell, NBC 4's Kyle Anderson reported.

Darrell Abbott, who was known as "Dimebag Darrell," was pronounced dead at the scene, NBC 4's Kyle Anderson reported. Police released the names of two others who died. They were Nathan Bray and Erin Halk, both audience members.

"(The gunman) came on stage, from the back, like he knew what he was doing and went straight to Dimebag Darrell immediately," an unidentified witness said."

The alleged gunman reportedly shot and killed another member of the band before firing shots into the crowd.

Columbus police were flooded with 911 calls from concertgoers right after the shooting. Some witnesses said the alleged gunman took someone hostage. Minutes later, a Columbus police officer entered the nightclub and shot and killed the man, Anderson reported.

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guns are everywhere. deal with it.

Another thing,
Anyone who claims to HATE rap/hip-hop is either

A) not a fan of music
B) probably a racist (think about it...)

watermock

03-09-2006, 12:34 AM

Guns are everywhere deal with it? STFU.

A: Not a fan of music? Nice ignorant assertion.

B. Pulls the racist card: Not surprising.

Since I looked this up and it isn't a new event and I can't find much about it for some reason...who shot him?

BTW, that post appears over two year old.