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longtimer
02-24-2006, 11:46 PM
At 22

Marcus McNeill
Height: 6-9 | Weight: 338 | 40-Time: 4.97

Official Bio

Strengths:
A massive mountain of a man who is an imposing physical presence...Has a large frame with long arms, big hands and a wide base...Tremendous athlete for his size and has great feet...Moves laterally extremely well and it is not easy to get around him...Does a good job getting to the second level of defenders...Has good playing strength...Smart player with top intangibles who wants to get better...An all-around performer who is a major factor as both a run blocker and pass protector.

Weaknesses:
Will play too upright at times due to his height...Has some medical issues with his back and neck that will have to be cleared...Will get caught leaning...May lack a nasty demeanor and that killer instinct...Will get lazy and lose concentration at times...Needs to refine and become more consistent with his technique...Is not as explosive as you would expect a guy with his mass and dimensions to be.

Notes:
From a measurables standpoint this guy is off the charts and exactly what you look for in a stud tackle...Could project to either the left or right side as a pro...Experienced and has led the way for some great rushing attacks...You simply can't teach the type of size and athleticism this guy brings to the table.

This would give us two very talented young OT to be are bookends for the next decade.

Pick 29

Could be Golds demise or shifted bac to his posiyion he started at in college Safety
Outside Linebacker | Senior | U.T.E.P. Thomas Howard
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 240 | 40-Time: 4.47

Official Bio

Strengths:
Amazing athlete with rare speed for the position...Has fluid hips and does a tremendous job when dropping into coverage...Has a great burst and closes fast...Terrific in space and makes plays sideline-to-sideline...Big hitter who will light people up...Changes direction well...Is an excellent pass rusher on the blitz...Very productive...Team leader and hard worker with top intangibles.

Weaknesses:
Gets by on his athleticism and lacks great instincts, which are essential for a linebacker...Can do a better job as a tackler...Struggles when taking on bigger blockers...Needs to hit the weights and get stronger...Doesn't react on the field as quickly as you'd like...Still developing and is not yet a finished product.

Notes:
Began his career with the Miners as a walk-on safety...Father was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in 1977 cousin was a member of the musical group En Vogue...A true workout warrior whose measurables are off the charts.


Pick 61 I would take a chance on his skills and bank on Denvers plyers can teach him how to work hard and reach his potential

Rodrique Wright
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 305 | 40-Time: 5.00

Official Bio

Strengths:
Big with a large frame that he could easily pack some additional pounds onto...An excellent natural athlete...Very quick and explosive with a burst...Strong and can hold his ground...Has great range and makes plays all over the field...Will penetrate and cause problems in the backfield...Has a lot of experience...Might be able to play defensive end in a 3-4 scheme...Still has a lot of upside.

Weaknesses:
An underachiever who doesn't always play up to his physical ability...Is not a hard worker...Technique is lacking...Will play too high at times...Allows blockers to lock on...Motor and stamina are very questionable...Has some durability concerns and dealt with a nagging angle injury for most of his junior season.

Notes:
Cousin of NFL defensive lineman Cedric Woodard and his uncle Elmo was a first-round draft pick of the Kansas City Chiefs in 1971...Talented player who looked like a future elite pro prospect early in his career before leveling off...Has the tools to be great but must be more consistent to fulfill that potential.

3rd round

Hank Baskett
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 220 | 40-Time: 4.55

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has tremendous size...Very physical and knows how to use his big frame...Is an excellent natural athlete...Has great hands...Will routinely make the spectacular reception...Great leaper who was the 2004 Mountain West Conference outdoor high jump champion...Can be a major threat in the red zone...Has excellent body control...Runs well after the catch...Plays faster on the field than he times.

Weaknesses:
Does not have elite speed or quickness...Is not much of a deep threat and won't run away from pro defensive backs...Needs to round out his game and refine his technique...Is not as good of a blocker as a guy his size should be...Has some trouble beating the jam at the line...Can run better routes...Missed some time as a freshman with a spinal injury that will need to be checked out by the doctors.

Notes:
Doesn't get the attention he deserves as one of the premier senior wideouts in the nation...Has everything you look for except pure speed and is a bit of a big school sleeper...Could potentially be a #1 receiving target at the next level.

Second 3rd round pick

Victor Adeyanju
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 275 | 40-Time: 4.61

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has excellent size and the frame to get even bigger...A tremendous natural athlete...Speed and quickness are outstanding...Has good range and pursues well...Has a great motor...Puts in his time in the weight room...A hard worker with top intangibles who wants to be the best...Tough and durable with four-years of starting experience...Still has a ton of upside and his best football is still to come.

Weaknesses:
Still very raw and needs some development...Needs to work on his technique and will play too high at times...Must develop additional pass rush moves...Could do a better job against the run...Might be a bit of a workout warrior...Was not super productive throughout his career...Needs to bulk up and put on some weight.

Notes:
Spent much of his childhood living in Nigeria...Has all the physical tools you look for but is just a little rough around the edges...Could become a top pro defensive

4th round pick


Height: 6-4 | Weight: 327 | 40-Time: 5.40

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has great size and a big frame with long arms...Strong and isn't satisfied just to beat his opponents, he wants to dominate them...Shows excellent quickness and good feet...Equally effective as both a run and pass blocker...Versatile and has experience at right tackle, left tackle and guard...Should work out well due to his combination of size / speed / strength...Still has a lot of upside and potential.

Weaknesses:
Has not played against top talent...May struggle to handle the speed rushers he will see in the pro ranks...Will likely have to make the move from college tackle inside to offensive guard at the next level...Has dealt with some injuries in the past but has managed not to miss much playing time...Still a bit of a project who will need some time to adjust and make the drastic jump in competition.

Notes:
A perenial selection to the All-Ivy team...Has all the physical tools you look for and has been a big fish in a small pond in the Ivies...One of the top sleeper prospects in the draft who could surprise and go much higher than anyone might think.

5th round

Fred Matua
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 305 | 40-Time: 5.10

Official Bio

Strengths:
Is very quick...An excellent technician who displays great footwork...Very strong and tough...A beast in the running game...Fiery, intense and emotional...Brings a defensive temperament to the o-line...Experienced and a three-year starter.

Weaknesses:
Is undersized and lacks the height you look for...Struggles a bit in space...Will have a hard time facing mammoth defensive tackles...May have some minor durability issues...How much was he aided by having so much talent around him?

Notes:
Underclassmen whose decision to come out early was influenced for the most part by his mother's battle with breast cancer and his family's financial situation...A relative of the Tuiasasosopo family...Could eventually start in the pros one day.

6th round

Barry Cofield
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 305 | 40-Time: 4.93

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has good size and a big frame...Athletic with good speed and quickness...Very strong and powerful...Plays with good leverage and gets a push...Does a superb job of locating the ball...Stout at the point and defends the run very well...Smart with good intangibles...Has a lot of experience and proved to be very durable.

Weaknesses:
Is not a great pass rusher or sack artist...Tends to wear down and needs to increase his stamina...Lacks a nasty demeanor on the field and can be more aggressive...Never focused on one position...Might be a DE / DT 'tweener.

Notes:
Played defensive tackle as a freshman and senior and then defensive end in between...Could play in the middle of a 4-3 or even shift outside to defensive end in a 3-4 scheme...The type who does everything well but nothing great...Definitely has some intriguing physical tools and the success Luis Castillo had should help.

7th round

Jason Hatcher
Height: 6-6 | Weight: 285 | 40-Time: 4.75

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has outstanding size and a huge frame that he can still bulk up further...Athletic with good speed for his size...Intense and has a great motor...Physical...Can penetrate and knows how to get after the quarterback...Was very productive.

Weaknesses:
Did not play against a high level of competition...Technique needs work and he plays too high at times...Might be a bit of a 'tweener...Got by on his talent because he was so much better than the competition...Raw and will need to be developed.

Notes:
Averaged 20 tackles for loss and 10 sacks the last two seasons...Could potentially bulk up and play some defensive tackle or be a 3-4 defensive end...Was quite dominant at his level...One of the premier sleeper prospects in the entire draft.


These picks are type of players that Shanny seems to take. He seems to always take an OT the is massive if he thinks they would be in the top 10 in another year and since this such a deep draft some the elite OT will slide to #22.

27atwater
02-25-2006, 06:51 AM
wow. if we go by the mox, tou are about on epick too eraly for all these guys. some are saying mcneil in the 3rd. howard is a mid 2 to mid 3. i'd be one angry mofo if this is how it ended up.

kiper says the weakest position in the draft is at OT and ya think shanny wil draft the 4th best in the 1st round??

Elway777
02-25-2006, 08:11 AM
ALL those players are good players but I feel the Bronco will not draft any of them. I think the Bronco will draft 1a Manny Lawson 1b Bunkley 2a Greg Blue.

Hercules Rockefeller
02-25-2006, 08:15 AM
I would be absolutely livid if that was the 1st round, not a fit and not a need.

Ray Finkle
02-25-2006, 08:33 AM
If Ted and Mike drafted those players in that order that outcome will be a neck slap from me....that is horrible.

BroncoInferno
02-25-2006, 09:05 AM
We may go OT in the first round if the Lepsis situation does not improve, but there is no way in hell we go LB in the 1st round. Why it be Gold's demise when he played great football last season and is still young? Ridiculous.

longtimer
02-25-2006, 09:07 AM
Well by the reaction to my thoughts it will be just what happens, Every year we all have the same reaction to shanny's draft picks, we all think that most of them are taken to high. But Shanny thinks that they will be taken before he will get a chance to take them in the round they are projected to go in. SO he takes them early.

McNeil was project top ten last year; hum sounds just like the kind of player Shanny would take.

BroncoInferno
02-25-2006, 09:11 AM
McNeil was project top ten last year; hum sounds just like the kind of player Shanny would take.

If we don't get Lepsis back, McNeil certainly wouldn't be a surprise, but I guarentee you we will not take a LB in the 1st round with Gold, Wilson, and DJ all still under contract, playing well, and young. Just won't happen, though I can see where you're going with this. Shanny always has surprises in store. But I'd be especially stunned (and pissed) if we went LB in the first.

longtimer
02-25-2006, 09:15 AM
We may go OT in the first round if the Lepsis situation does not improve, but there is no way in hell we go LB in the 1st round. Why it be Gold's demise when he played great football last season and is still young? Ridiculous.

Thomas Howard, If you read his bio he sarted as a Safety and seems better suited to play safety from a skill set. All of his strenghs point to a safety the only one that is not is size. His size says LB so his coaches moved him to LB in College. Urlacher played Safety in college and now plays MLB for the bears so why not take a player who could very good at safety but just happens to play LB at the end of his college playing days.

BroncoInferno
02-25-2006, 09:17 AM
Thomas Howard, If you read his bio he sarted as a Safety and seems better suited to play safety from a skill set. All of his strenghs point to a safety the only one that is not is size. His size says LB so his coaches moved him to LB in College. Urlacher played Safety in college and now plays MLB for the bears so why not take a player who could very good at safety but just happens to play LB at the end of his college playing days.

Well, if he projects as a safety you may be onto something. Despite cries from the fans for a pure cover safety, Shanny always seems to get a hard on for guys who can play in the box.

Drek
02-25-2006, 09:21 AM
The guys I think Shanny will like that will surprise a lot of us:
RBs:
Gerald Riggs Jr. - good size, powerful, good vision, good burst, ok speed. Limited college experience. Sounds exactly like a late 3rd/early 4th RB steal that Turner and Shanny would love to bring in.

Maurice Drew - Its gonna piss people off, but I think taking Q in the 4th a few years ago wasn't just a rare circumstance. If the FO comes away unimpressed by the late first/early second day RB class I could see us jumping on Drew in the 3rd, largely because I think we'll be back shopping for special teams after Williams has clearly elevated himself to starting CB.

Other Options:
Mike Bell, Arizona
Cedric Humes, Va. Tech
Quinton Ganther, Utah

General rule of thumb, RBs with good size, vision, and north to south running ability. Bell was a direct result of hoping for another Portis, but he's not and we'll be back looking at the mid round RBs for another every down back. My personal preference would be Riggs or Bell.

QB:
Reggie McNeal. Seriously. Agile, good arm, but needs a lot of coaching work. Sounds like the type of guy Shanny would really like in rounds 3, 4, or 5.

S:
Greg Blue/Bernard Pollard: Both have pretty good speed and hit like trucks. Its our MO at the safety position, and we've already shown interest in Blue. Doubt we'll adress the secondary any time before the late second, wouldn't surprise me if they hope for someone to fall down to our pick in the 3rd.

Just a few positions off the top of my head that I think the FO will be tracking this weekend at the combine.

Billy Clyde Puckett
02-25-2006, 09:33 AM
Just to stir up some controversy here:

Assuming two comp pics, a 3rd and a 4th.

1A. Leonard Pope TE GA
1B. Kiwi DE BC
2. Davin Joseph OG OK
3A. Oshinowa DT Stanford
3B. Jonathan Orr WR Wisconsin
4A. Mark Anderson - DE Alabama
4B. Gerald Riggs Jr. RB Tenn
4C. Kellen Clemons QB oregon
5. Jeremy Bloom KR Colo
6. Michael Toudouze OT TCU

Broncoman13
02-25-2006, 10:08 AM
wow. if we go by the mox, tou are about on epick too eraly for all these guys. some are saying mcneil in the 3rd. howard is a mid 2 to mid 3. i'd be one angry mofo if this is how it ended up.

kiper says the weakest position in the draft is at OT and ya think shanny wil draft the 4th best in the 1st round??


If Kiper truly said that the weakest position in the draft was OT then I've lost all respect for him. It's actually one of the strongest OT drafts ever! D'Brick, Scott, McNeil, Winston, Justice, Colledge, O'Cali. There are atleast 7 OT's that will go in the first two rounds. Chances are that 4 or 5 will go in the first! I wouldn't hate the McNeil pick, but it's not a need. I would be angry with the Howard pick. I think he's a player but at our strongest position as a team.

I don't know this for sure, but I'm guessing you probably made up the part about Kiper calling this a week OT draft. I don't think he'd ever say that... not about this draft! Oh, and who in the hell is saying that McNeil is a 3rd round pick?

BombsOverBaghdad
02-25-2006, 10:12 AM
Well reasoned and nice post. However, I disagree with your take. No way the Broncos take a LB in their first 4 picks and, for my taste, #22 is too early for Marcus McNeill.

As a counter to your thoughts, I offer the following:

#1A) Vernon Davis TE 6'3 253 Maryland Jr.

Vernon Davis became a part time starter as a sophomore and lead the team in receiving yards with 441 yards and three touchdowns on 27 catches. He became a true standout in his only season as a full time starter in 2005. Davis caught 51 passes for 871 yards and six touchdowns on the year, and even returned three kicks for 68 yards.

There is not a more explosive tight end prospect in this years draft. Davis is an excellent athlete, and has fantastic speed and quickness for the position. Whoever gets him could line him up in various slots because of his physical talent. Davis can get open and once he has the ball, he possesses a rare playmaking trait as a tight end. He will be a factor in the passing game in the NFL.

There are legitimate questions about Davis' size. He does not appear as tall or bulky as his listed weight. That will cause some match up problems in the NFL, both as a receiver and as a blocker. It could limit his ability as a full time tight end.

Other than his size, Davis is an outstanding prospect. If he is a legitimate 6'3, he could potentially crack the Top 10 of the draft. His talent is that good. He is a player that should amaze in workouts with his awesome physical skills. Whatever his size is, Davis should find a role in the NFL as a receiver. His receiving ability is too good to not be utilized in some capacity. Davis is likely to be the first tight end selected, but Marcedes Lewis and Leonard Pope are not far behind.
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#1B) Manny Lawson DE 6’6 245 North Carolina St.

Manny Lawson is one of the truly elite athletes in college football. Not only has he found time to play both end and linebacker, he’s also a track standout having competed in the long jump and hurdles during his time at NC St. As a linebacker in 2002, Lawson had 35 tackles, with one of them coming for loss. As a part time starter in 2003, he improved on all his numbers. He totaled 53 tackles, seven for loss, with three sacks. Lawson made the switch to DE in 2004, and became a full time starter for the first time in his career. On the year, he finished with 50 tackles, 12 for loss, and seven sacks.

Lawson is an absolute freak of an athlete. He has excellent agility, closing speed, and jumping ability. Pound for pound, he may also be the strongest player in the draft. There is not a single physical trait he lacks. On the football field, he is an emerging talent. He did not make too many plays early on, but once he moved to defensive end, he started to show his pass rushing ability. His upside is tremendous, and he could be a standout pass rusher at the next level. Lawson is also a standout special teamer.

With all his athletic gifts, he is prone to relying on them too often. A major part of that is due to his inexperience on the defensive line. As an end, he lacks the bulk to be a player against the run. Lawson carries the tweener tag, but that has not been a negative lately. Still, he may only fit for certain teams.

Manny Lawson has tremendous upside. As a pass rusher, he has as much pure talent as anyone in the draft. He is listed here as a defensive end, but he has the ability to play OLB in a 3-4 defense. Lawson is a guy that should rise up the charts as the draft approaches because of his awesome physical ability. He will really tear up the combines and individual workouts. Do not be surprised to see him crack the first round, but the second is the safe bet.
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#2) Charles Spencer OG Pittsburgh

http://patriots.scout.com/2/501644.html
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#3A) Daryn Colledge OT 6’5 298 Boise St.

Daryn Colledge is one of the best left tackle prospects for this draft. He has excellent athleticism and can mirror rushers’ moves and keep them off his quarterback. He’s also plays with a lot of strength on the field, and can dominate at the point of attack. He’s the complete package as a tackle prospect. Colledge has also displayed excellent durability in college, starting every game he has played in.

Even though he plays with power, Colledge could stand to gain a few pounds. The bulk will help him better handle the wear and tear of a full season in the NFL. Of lesser concern is that he hasn’t faced many ends with the size to give him fits as a physical presence, and he’ll need to show the ability to handle guys his size.

This year’s offensive tackle pool is ridiculously deep. Outside of D'Brickashaw Ferguson, there is a very talented second tier of offensive lineman, and they could go in any order. Colledge falls into that group. He could hear his name called near the end of the first round, but shouldn't last long into the second if he does.
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#3B) Babatunde Oshinowo DT 6-2 340 Stanford

Strengths:
Has excellent size and a wide frame...Is obviously very smart with good field intelligence...Is a good athlete who moves well for a man of his dimensions...Stout and will hold his ground...Very strong and can get a push up the middle...Will take on multiple blockers...Gets a little penetration and shows some pass rush potential...Good character with top intangibles...Durable with a lot of experience.

Weaknesses:
Does not always play as big as he is...Might lack toughness and a nasty demeanor...Will never be a dynamic pass rusher...Is basically a straight-line guy who will not make plays laterally...Needs to be more consistent with his technique and play with better leverage...Does not have a lot of upside.

Notes:
Name pronounced ba-ba-TOON-day OH-shi-no-who...A two-gapper who could fit in well as a nose tackle...Could get drafted earlier than one might expect due to his size and ability to play a position that is so critical to the popular 3-4 defense.
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#4a) Jerome Harrison RB 5’9 196 Washington St.

Jerome Harrison became a Cougar after a standout career at Pasadena(CA) City College. Despite playing for a poor team, Harrison managed to rush for 1,849 yards with 19 touchdowns in two seasons at PCC. He moved on to Washington St. and had a very solid junior season, rushing for 900 yards and nine touchdowns. Nobody anticipated the breakout, All American season he had this year though. Harrison led the nation in rushing with 1,900 yards and 16 touchdowns, and added 206 yards and one touchdown on 24 receptions.

Harrison has very good quickness and is one of the quickest backs in this draft out of the blocks. His initial burst to the hole is excellent. He displays the ability to cut and make people miss once in the open field, and the ability to turn the corner for the big run. While not a power back, he always keeps his feet moving and does not go down on first contact. Harrison also shows the ability to be a threat out of the backfield as a receiver.

The only glaring weakness in Harrison’s game is his lack of size. He was measured in at just 5’9 196 at the Senior Bowl in January. He runs tough, but his lack of bulk and strength may prevent him from being an everydown back at the next level.

Harrison’s huge senior campaign has put his name on everyone’s radar. He has a lot of talent, but his lack of size limits his potential at the next level. He looks to have the capability of being a very good third down back at the next level. With his success during the season and Senior Bowl, Harrison should hear his name called in the third to fourth round area.
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Certainly my thoughts will change in the coming weeks (post-combine) -- but here is my alternative to your views.

Broncoman13
02-25-2006, 10:15 AM
Here's how it will go down.

22. Ko Simpson
29. Manny Lawson
61. Rod Wright

Or

22. Kiwi
29. Bunkley
61. Joseph (like this one the best)

22. Pope
29. Jonathon Scott
61. Stanley McClover

Requiem
02-25-2006, 11:02 AM
Eh, I'll throw something together quick, just picks rounds 1-4... one third round compensatory selection.

#22 - Mathias Kiwanuka, DE (Need a pass rush.)
#29 - Chad Jackson, WR (Seems like we really like this kid.)
#61 - Greg Blue, S - (Seems like a Broncos safety to me, could improve in coverage)
#93 - Brodie Croyle, QB - (Insurance, plus good value IMHO)
COMP - Rashad Butler, OT - (I think after the combine, he'll rise up. Would fit well for us. Can play LT or RT.)
#118 - Stanley McClover, DE - (Pre-Combine, but I'm sure he'll skyrocket)
#125 - Meh, BPA -- I need to go eat, I'll get back to this one.

Sure, I have back-ups for each pick, but that's a rough estimate so far.

longtimer
02-25-2006, 01:50 PM
Well reasoned and nice post. However, I disagree with your take. No way the Broncos take a LB in their first 4 picks and, for my taste, #22 is too early for Marcus McNeill.

As a counter to your thoughts, I offer the following:

#1A) Vernon Davis TE 6'3 253 Maryland Jr.

Vernon Davis became a part time starter as a sophomore and lead the team in receiving yards with 441 yards and three touchdowns on 27 catches. He became a true standout in his only season as a full time starter in 2005. Davis caught 51 passes for 871 yards and six touchdowns on the year, and even returned three kicks for 68 yards.

There is not a more explosive tight end prospect in this years draft. Davis is an excellent athlete, and has fantastic speed and quickness for the position. Whoever gets him could line him up in various slots because of his physical talent. Davis can get open and once he has the ball, he possesses a rare playmaking trait as a tight end. He will be a factor in the passing game in the NFL.

There are legitimate questions about Davis' size. He does not appear as tall or bulky as his listed weight. That will cause some match up problems in the NFL, both as a receiver and as a blocker. It could limit his ability as a full time tight end.

Other than his size, Davis is an outstanding prospect. If he is a legitimate 6'3, he could potentially crack the Top 10 of the draft. His talent is that good. He is a player that should amaze in workouts with his awesome physical skills. Whatever his size is, Davis should find a role in the NFL as a receiver. His receiving ability is too good to not be utilized in some capacity. Davis is likely to be the first tight end selected, but Marcedes Lewis and Leonard Pope are not far behind.
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#1B) Manny Lawson DE 6’6 245 North Carolina St.

Manny Lawson is one of the truly elite athletes in college football. Not only has he found time to play both end and linebacker, he’s also a track standout having competed in the long jump and hurdles during his time at NC St. As a linebacker in 2002, Lawson had 35 tackles, with one of them coming for loss. As a part time starter in 2003, he improved on all his numbers. He totaled 53 tackles, seven for loss, with three sacks. Lawson made the switch to DE in 2004, and became a full time starter for the first time in his career. On the year, he finished with 50 tackles, 12 for loss, and seven sacks.

Lawson is an absolute freak of an athlete. He has excellent agility, closing speed, and jumping ability. Pound for pound, he may also be the strongest player in the draft. There is not a single physical trait he lacks. On the football field, he is an emerging talent. He did not make too many plays early on, but once he moved to defensive end, he started to show his pass rushing ability. His upside is tremendous, and he could be a standout pass rusher at the next level. Lawson is also a standout special teamer.

With all his athletic gifts, he is prone to relying on them too often. A major part of that is due to his inexperience on the defensive line. As an end, he lacks the bulk to be a player against the run. Lawson carries the tweener tag, but that has not been a negative lately. Still, he may only fit for certain teams.

Manny Lawson has tremendous upside. As a pass rusher, he has as much pure talent as anyone in the draft. He is listed here as a defensive end, but he has the ability to play OLB in a 3-4 defense. Lawson is a guy that should rise up the charts as the draft approaches because of his awesome physical ability. He will really tear up the combines and individual workouts. Do not be surprised to see him crack the first round, but the second is the safe bet.
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#2) Charles Spencer OG Pittsburgh

http://patriots.scout.com/2/501644.html
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#3A) Daryn Colledge OT 6’5 298 Boise St.

Daryn Colledge is one of the best left tackle prospects for this draft. He has excellent athleticism and can mirror rushers’ moves and keep them off his quarterback. He’s also plays with a lot of strength on the field, and can dominate at the point of attack. He’s the complete package as a tackle prospect. Colledge has also displayed excellent durability in college, starting every game he has played in.

Even though he plays with power, Colledge could stand to gain a few pounds. The bulk will help him better handle the wear and tear of a full season in the NFL. Of lesser concern is that he hasn’t faced many ends with the size to give him fits as a physical presence, and he’ll need to show the ability to handle guys his size.

This year’s offensive tackle pool is ridiculously deep. Outside of D'Brickashaw Ferguson, there is a very talented second tier of offensive lineman, and they could go in any order. Colledge falls into that group. He could hear his name called near the end of the first round, but shouldn't last long into the second if he does.
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#3B) Babatunde Oshinowo DT 6-2 340 Stanford

Strengths:
Has excellent size and a wide frame...Is obviously very smart with good field intelligence...Is a good athlete who moves well for a man of his dimensions...Stout and will hold his ground...Very strong and can get a push up the middle...Will take on multiple blockers...Gets a little penetration and shows some pass rush potential...Good character with top intangibles...Durable with a lot of experience.

Weaknesses:
Does not always play as big as he is...Might lack toughness and a nasty demeanor...Will never be a dynamic pass rusher...Is basically a straight-line guy who will not make plays laterally...Needs to be more consistent with his technique and play with better leverage...Does not have a lot of upside.

Notes:
Name pronounced ba-ba-TOON-day OH-shi-no-who...A two-gapper who could fit in well as a nose tackle...Could get drafted earlier than one might expect due to his size and ability to play a position that is so critical to the popular 3-4 defense.
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#4a) Jerome Harrison RB 5’9 196 Washington St.

Jerome Harrison became a Cougar after a standout career at Pasadena(CA) City College. Despite playing for a poor team, Harrison managed to rush for 1,849 yards with 19 touchdowns in two seasons at PCC. He moved on to Washington St. and had a very solid junior season, rushing for 900 yards and nine touchdowns. Nobody anticipated the breakout, All American season he had this year though. Harrison led the nation in rushing with 1,900 yards and 16 touchdowns, and added 206 yards and one touchdown on 24 receptions.

Harrison has very good quickness and is one of the quickest backs in this draft out of the blocks. His initial burst to the hole is excellent. He displays the ability to cut and make people miss once in the open field, and the ability to turn the corner for the big run. While not a power back, he always keeps his feet moving and does not go down on first contact. Harrison also shows the ability to be a threat out of the backfield as a receiver.

The only glaring weakness in Harrison’s game is his lack of size. He was measured in at just 5’9 196 at the Senior Bowl in January. He runs tough, but his lack of bulk and strength may prevent him from being an everydown back at the next level.

Harrison’s huge senior campaign has put his name on everyone’s radar. He has a lot of talent, but his lack of size limits his potential at the next level. He looks to have the capability of being a very good third down back at the next level. With his success during the season and Senior Bowl, Harrison should hear his name called in the third to fourth round area.
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Certainly my thoughts will change in the coming weeks (post-combine) -- but here is my alternative to your views.



I just don't see Shanny using a first round pick on an undersized TE and DE. McNeil was going to be a top ten pick in last years draft before he decided to pull out.

Thomas Howard I see more as a Jumbo sized Safety and would be the type of pick shanny would use because he feels its a freebe.

I do like your Charles Spencer pick but I think he will be gone in the top to middle of the second round.

I think Daryn Colledge will be gone by the middle second round at the latest.

We do need another DT to solidify the position and I want Size and talent there to go with warren.

I feel there a DE that can be pick up in the middle rounds that will outperform
Kiwi and Haili.I really think out of all the DE Kiwi and Haili will be the biggest bust based on were they will be pick. Haili just does not have the phyical tools to be a stud DE in the nfl really short arms from what I have read. That does not bode well for him going up against LT in the nfl.

PLOWHORSE
02-25-2006, 01:57 PM
I just don't see Shanny using a first round pick on an undersized TE and DE. McNeil was going to be a top ten pick in last years draft before he decided to pull out.

Thomas Howard I see more as a Jumbo sized Safety and would be the type of pick shanny would use because he feels its a freebe.

I do like your Charles Spencer pick but I think he will be gone in the top to middle of the second round.

I think Daryn Colledge will be gone by the middle second round at the latest.

We do need another DT to solidify the position and I want Size and talent there to go with warren.

I feel there a DE that can be pick up in the middle rounds that will outperform
Kiwi and Haili.I really think out of all the DE Kiwi and Haili will be the biggest bust based on were they will be pick. Haili just does not have the phyical tools to be a stud DE in the nfl really short arms from what I have read. That does not bode well for him going up against LT in the nfl.


How is 6' 3" and 253 Lbs an undersized TE. By the way he runs under 4.5 too.

BombsOverBaghdad
02-25-2006, 02:17 PM
I just don't see Shanny using a first round pick on an undersized TE and DE. McNeil was going to be a top ten pick in last years draft before he decided to pull out.

Thomas Howard I see more as a Jumbo sized Safety and would be the type of pick shanny would use because he feels its a freebe.

I do like your Charles Spencer pick but I think he will be gone in the top to middle of the second round.

I think Daryn Colledge will be gone by the middle second round at the latest.

We do need another DT to solidify the position and I want Size and talent there to go with warren.

I feel there a DE that can be pick up in the middle rounds that will outperform
Kiwi and Haili.I really think out of all the DE Kiwi and Haili will be the biggest bust based on were they will be pick. Haili just does not have the phyical tools to be a stud DE in the nfl really short arms from what I have read. That does not bode well for him going up against LT in the nfl.

Davis is short as compared to other TE's -- however, his size and stature compare very favorably to S. Sharpe & he is much faster. I really like what (little) I have seen of this kid and my only concern is that he projected to be picked in the top 12 picks.
I agree with your assessment of how Shanny will view the #1B pick (as a luxury that he can take a boom-or-bust type) we simply disagree on the position. Personally I like lawson for all of his measurables -- if not him then trade down to solidify the Spencer & Colledge picks in round 2.
I agree with you that Colledge probably will be gone in round 2.
From round 3 on, I woulds concentrate on DT, RB, & WR's.

BritBronco Maniac
02-26-2006, 06:12 AM
There is no way we take a LB, we already have problems getting DJ on the field with Gold back.

I do see similarities with Rod Wright and Pryce coming out of college.

It will be really interesting to see what happens over the next couple of weeks with regards to Warren and Lepsis.

27atwater
02-26-2006, 07:54 AM
I just don't see Shanny using a first round pick on an undersized TE and DE. McNeil was going to be a top ten pick in last years draft before he decided to pull out.

Thomas Howard I see more as a Jumbo sized Safety and would be the type of pick shanny would use because he feels its a freebe.

I do like your Charles Spencer pick but I think he will be gone in the top to middle of the second round.

I think Daryn Colledge will be gone by the middle second round at the latest.

We do need another DT to solidify the position and I want Size and talent there to go with warren.

I feel there a DE that can be pick up in the middle rounds that will outperform
Kiwi and Haili.I really think out of all the DE Kiwi and Haili will be the biggest bust based on were they will be pick. Haili just does not have the phyical tools to be a stud DE in the nfl really short arms from what I have read. That does not bode well for him going up against LT in the nfl.


i would wet myself if we landed that crop. screw undersized. Vernon is top 5 athletically and can play some WR too. He'll be a stud. Dominated ACC competition. He's a player and shanny will NOT pass him if he gets to #22.

the rest of the draft is almost perfect. I love lawson, spencer and oshinowo. i really think it'd be worth reaching for lawson at our #29.

I also think shanny will get into round 2 again for a WR.

BombsOverBaghdad
02-26-2006, 08:31 AM
i would wet myself if we landed that crop. screw undersized. Vernon is top 5 athletically and can play some WR too. He'll be a stud. Dominated ACC competition. He's a player and shanny will NOT pass him if he gets to #22.

the rest of the draft is almost perfect. I love lawson, spencer and oshinowo. i really think it'd be worth reaching for lawson at our #29.

I also think shanny will get into round 2 again for a WR.

Yeah, I also think that Shanny picks up another #2 -- obviously I want to see a lot of OL & DL from this draft (I love Spencer (potential ProBowl Gaurd) & Colledge) , but I could also see a WR.

Who do you see available in the mid-2nd round that grabs your interest at WR?

BombsOverBaghdad
02-26-2006, 08:44 AM
While I am at it ........................
My sleeper pick for the Broncos:

Manase Hopoi DE/DT 6-4 290 U of W

2004: A candidate for All-America honors ... on track to regain his fifth year of eligibility by earning his undergraduate degree in four years ... a second-team All-Pac-10 selection in 2004 ... had 54 total tackles and led the Pac-10 with 22 tackles for loss, one shy of Washington's single-season record ... his tackles for loss tally ranked second among Division I defenders ... also totaled nine sacks during the year, the ninth best single-season mark in UW history ... started all 11 games at either defensive tackle or defensive end ... had six tackles for loss at USC tied school record (Jerry Jensen, 1997 vs. ASU) and were most by a Pac-10 player this season .. also had three sacks vs. USC ... posted seven tackles, two TFLs and a sack at Oregon ... had four tackles, and a TFL vs. Arizona ... managed eight tackles, including a sack and three tackles for loss in Fresno State game ... registered five tackles and team-high two TFLs vs. UCLA ... had five tackles in the Apple Cup ... after Mapuolesega's injury, started at DE at Notre Dame, where he had seven tackles and 1.5 for loss ... had four tackles, two TFLs and a sack at Stanford ... posted six tackles, including five TFLs and two sacks vs. San Jose State ... only Husky ever (records go back to 1967) with four career games with four or more TFLs ... named the team's co-defensive player of the year along with linebacker Joe Lobendahn ... voted the team's John P. Angel Defensive Lineman of the Year award and the L. Wait Rising Lineman of the Year. 2003: One of six defensive players to start all 12 games last season ... one of three returning UW players who started all 12 games in 2003 ... has started 24 times during his career ... a two-time letterwinner ... missed the final week of spring drills due to a sprained knee ... totaled 31 tackles during the season ... is Washington's returning sacks leader after totaling four last year ... had a total of 10.5 tackles for loss, which was the third most on the squad ... had three tackles for loss in games against Nevada and Oregon ... made seven tackles against Nevada ... recovered a pair of fumbles during the season, both coming against Washington State ... named co-defensive Player of the Game against the Cougars ... bulked up to 280 for his senior season. 2002: Started all 13 games at defensive end in his first season of competing ... led all Huskies with 17 tackles for loss, and ranked second among UW defensive linemen with 38 tackles ... seven sacks tied for first on the team ... averaged 1.3 tackles for-loss per game, the sixth-best average in the Pac-10 ... part of an excellent Husky rush defense that ranked 11th in the nation with just 97.7 yards allowed per game ... had career-best six tackles -- including a remarkable four for-loss -- and one sack against Arizona ... four tackles for-loss against Arizona and Purdue (Sun Bowl) tied for the eighth-most ever by a UW player in a single game ... for his efforts against the Wildcats, was named coaches' defensive player of the week ... also earned the honor for three-sack performance against San Jose State ... sack total vs. the Spartans equaled the ninth-most ever by a Husky player in a single game ... sacked Washington State's Jason Gesser in the first quarter of the Huskies' 29-26 triple-overtime win over the third-ranked Cougars. 2001: Did not redshirt ... was ineligible to participate in games as a partial qualifier ... can earn back year of eligibility if on track to graduate in spring of 2005 ... was a major force on the scout team, earning the Mark Drennan Defensive Scout of the Year honor at the team banquet ... was twice named Huskies' Defensive Scout of the Week, for work prior to wins against Michigan and Arizona State.

BombsOverBaghdad
02-26-2006, 05:08 PM
Also like Joe Toledo OT as a late round gamble

phibacka31
02-27-2006, 09:28 PM
ill throw something out there:
1a: Marcus Mcneil OT
1b: Brodrick Bunkly DT
2: Maurice Stovall WR
3a: Dominique Bryd TE
3b: Breg Blue/ Bernard Pollard S
4a: Mike Bell RB
4b: Stanly McClover DE
5: Reggie Mcneal: QB
6: ????????? I give up on this one sorry