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Rohirrim
02-24-2006, 12:39 PM
Excerpts:

“The current political saga and debate about the purchase by a Dubai-based company of the management of six US ports misses the most crucial point: with a US current account deficit running towards $900b this year and probably above one trillion $ next year, in a matter of a few years foreigners may end up owning most of the U.S. capital stocks: ports, factories, corporations, land, real estate and even our national parks.”

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“Also, the worry about unfriendly regimes is somehow misplaced as, unfortunately, the countries that are now financing the US current account deficit are not our friends and allies but, potentially, our geopolitical rivals or unfriendly states. In the 1980s, the biggest financers of US twin deficits were the U.S. geo-strategic allies: Japan and Europe. Today instead, the biggest financers of the U.S. twin deficits are China, Russia and Saudi Arabia.”

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“So, for its own financing the US is effectively captive to the political decisions of potentially unfriendly states, an indeed worrisome "balance of financial terror". The war on terror and the war in Iraq are being financed by China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and a bunch of other unfriendly or unstable countries (Nigeria, Venezuela, Iraq, etc.). And all these countries and their private and public investors, whether friendly or unfriendly, now increasingly want to buy US equities rather than useless bonds. So, a Chinese company recently acquired the PC division of IBM and Chinese companies are already managing parts of US ports. So, whether we like it or not we will, increasingly, sell all of our assets and capital stock to foreigners, whether these foreigners are friendly or unfriendly to US.”

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“So, let us stop whining about the dangers of unfriendly foreigners owning our firms and assets and get used to it. Unless we change our spending habits and stop our reckless fiscal and economic policies that are leading to the hollowing out of the US as a competitive producer of goods and services in the global market, the Chinese will indeed own most of America and its assets.”

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“So much for the U.S. dark matter and mysterious intangible assets; with our policies we are instead digging ourselves into a bigger and bigger black hole of liabilities that will eventually sink us all.”

http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/118568

Greed is good. ;D

Rohirrim
02-24-2006, 12:54 PM
"The real absurdity here is that Congress doesn't seem to realize that an Arab-owned company's management of America's ports is just a taste of what is coming. Greater foreign ownership of U.S. assets is an inevitable consequence of the reckless tax-cutting, deficit-ballooning fiscal policies that Congress and the White House have pursued. By encouraging the United States to consume more than it produces, these fiscal policies have sucked in imports so fast that the nation is nearing a trillion-dollar annual trade deficit. Those are IOUs on America's future, issued by a spendthrift Congress."
(David Ignatius, Washington Post)

Meck77
02-24-2006, 12:58 PM
"The real absurdity here is that Congress doesn't seem to realize that an Arab-owned company's management of America's ports is just a taste of what is coming. Greater foreign ownership of U.S. assets is an inevitable consequence of the reckless tax-cutting, deficit-ballooning fiscal policies that Congress and the White House have pursued. By encouraging the United States to consume more than it produces, these fiscal policies have sucked in imports so fast that the nation is nearing a trillion-dollar annual trade deficit. Those are IOUs on America's future, issued by a spendthrift Congress."
(David Ignatius, Washington Post)


Has anyone read this book?

http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/worldisflat.htm

I can't recommend it enough.

baja
02-24-2006, 01:04 PM
Maybe George Bush and his cronies are going to ship off to another planet and are having a garage sale before they leave....

Meck77
02-24-2006, 01:06 PM
Maybe George Bush and his cronies are going to ship off to another planet and are having a garage sale before they leave....

Could be. While everyone is worrying about the United States being sold I'm getting my little piece of Mexico! See you on the beach Baja!:sunshine:

baja
02-24-2006, 01:07 PM
Has anyone read this book?

http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/worldisflat.htm

I can't recommend it enough.

You are about the third or fourth person to recomend this book, guess I better check it out.

baja
02-24-2006, 01:09 PM
Could be. While everyone is worrying about the United States being sold I'm getting my little piece of Mexico! See you on the beach Baja!:sunshine:

Good plan and congrats.

See ya in the sun Amigo

baja
02-24-2006, 01:12 PM
Has anyone read this book?

http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/worldisflat.htm

I can't recommend it enough.

You are about the fourth person to recomend this book, guess I better get it.

Meck77
02-24-2006, 01:13 PM
Good plan and congrats.

See ya in the sun Amigo

Thanks...

One of my reasons for doing this is because I read the book I referenced above.

We are dealing with a world economy now. The sooner the United States and the rest of America is willing to recognize this.......The better off we'll be. Instead we are building fences and putting up barriers to protect what we have while the rest of the world advances thanks to the technology we helped them put in place over the last decade.

The World is Flat......It's time to recognize it or we are in serious trouble.

baja
02-24-2006, 01:15 PM
Flat as in level playing field yep soon there will be no cheap shirts from China and no more brown maids....

Meck77
02-24-2006, 01:24 PM
Flat as in level playing field.

Exactly. What's funny to me is there are alot of people who look at the 90's and say "The country was prosperous and life was great". Well maybe so but during that time US Tech companies made HUGE profits by laying down the information highway all over the world. Now you have accountants in India doing American tax returns and you have Americans wondering why their jobs are being "outsourced". lol

I guess we could thank Al Gore for that right? He did afterall invent the internet. :rofl:

On the flip side now we are trying to figure out why foreign countries (that we helped make Billions and Billions) are trying to buy America....lol

enjolras
02-24-2006, 03:40 PM
Its interesting, we're already starting to see actual positive effects from outsourcing:

http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/23/news/economy/jobs_it_offshoring/index.htm

Summary: There are now more IT jobs available now than at the height of the DotCom boom.

Interesting excerpt:

The study suggests that there are several factors in the continued growth in demand for IT workers here. The report said part of it is due to the use of offshoring by U.S. companies, including start-up firms, to limit their costs and thus grow their businesses. That, in turn, creates more opportunities here even as an increasing amount of work is done overseas.

Its the cycle of wealth creation in action.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-24-2006, 06:58 PM
Maybe George Bush and his cronies are going to ship off to another planet and are having a garage sale before they leave....

Nah - it's more likely that they are all heavily invested in those same countries to whom they are selling America piece by piece.

When the bottom drops out, Smirk and his cronies will already be safely invested in other currencies, gold, or whatever. Then they'll sit back and laugh while the rest of us pay $20 USD for a loaf of bread - just like Hoover and his buds did during the great depression.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-24-2006, 08:39 PM
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