The new American police state

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucrr/20060218/cm_ucrr/thenewamericanpolicestate

NEW YORK -- "When I saw that the neoconservative response to 9/11 was to turn a stateless war against terrorism into military attacks on Muslim states, I realized that the Bush administration was committing a strategic blunder with open-ended disastrous consequences for the United States that, in the end, would destroy Bush, the Republican Party and the conservative movement."

I agree with that, but I didn't write it. No liberal did.

The author is Paul Craig Roberts, one of the creators and champions of "supply-side economics," the great conservative cause of the early 1980s. As a Wall Street Journal editorial writer and then assistant secretary of the treasury under President Reagan, Roberts was a true believer and an effective advocate. His political stance is pretty well summed up in the title of his newest book: "The Tyranny of Good Intentions: How Prosecutors and Bureaucrats Are Trampling the Constitution in the Name of Justice."

Roberts is a syndicated columnist now, an honorable profession, and a fellow at the Hoover Institution, a temple of talented political thinkers devoted to all the Right things, beginning with Reaganism. His essay, "My Epiphany: From Reaganaut to Anti-War Radical," is, as they say these days, sweeping the Internet. (You can read the text on VDARE.com, the Web site of the Lexington Institute.)

Roberts begins by emphasizing that he does not believe he is betraying old friends or old causes, saying that he never considered himself a slave to party or ideology. Apparently not. He has been writing strong stuff:

"Americans have forgotten what it takes to remain free. Instead, every ideology, every group is determined to use government to advance its agenda. ... The United States is undergoing a coup against the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and democracy itself. The 'liberal press' has been co-opted. ... Media concentration permitted in the 1990s has put news and opinion in the hands of a few corporate executives who do not dare risk their broadcasting licenses by getting on the wrong side of government, or their advertising revenues by becoming 'controversial.'"

He talks of "years of illegal spying" giving the White House the power of "blackmail" over media and political opposition. I might not use the same words, but I do believe that we, the people, are in jeopardy: New spying and eavesdropping technologies and their delighted abuse by intelligence-gathering organizations and their political masters are turning the United States into an emerging police state.

"Homeland Security and the Patriot Act are not our protectors," he adds. "Americans need to understand that many interests are using the 'war on terror' to achieve their agendas. The Federalist Society is using the war on terror to achieve its agenda of concentrating power in the executive and packing the Supreme Court to this effect. The neoconservatives are using the war to achieve their agenda of Israeli hegemony in the Middle East. Police agencies are using the war to make themselves less accountable. Republicans are using the war to achieve one-party rule ..."

"Debate is dead," Roberts concludes. "One certainty prevails. Bush is committing America to a path of violence and coercion, and he is getting away with it."

I asked Roberts what has been the reaction since these words were published 10 days ago.

"I have had thousands of e-mails, about 99.9 percent favorable, full of praise from Democrats and Republicans alike," he answered. "They say the country is desperate for a straight talker. ... People want to hear more. People want me to run for the Senate or for president."

I, for one, would consider voting for him, though I would hope he will finally give up on supply-side theory.

[clarker]

Liberal nutball. Explain to me how anyone feels like there in a police state? How are their rights of free speech are being taken away. BTW, LABF, every anti-Bush post or Bush is Hitler cartoon or anything else you post proves what a crock all this Bush has us in a police state, taking away our free speech takes that you libs go off on is.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Liberal nutball. Explain to me how anyone feels like there in a police state? How are their rights of free speech are being taken away. BTW, LABF, every anti-Bush post or Bush is Hitler cartoon or anything else you post proves what a crock all this Bush has us in a police state, taking away our free speech takes that you libs go off on is.

Um, no, moron.

If you had actually read the article before you knee-jerked, you would have noticed that it was written by a hardcore right-winger.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Red state, meet police state: Federal worker in Boise hassled for creative anti-war expression on his car

http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A158729

[clarker]

Um, no, moron.

If you had actually read the article before you knee-jerked, you would have noticed that it was written by a hardcore right-winger.I don't care who wrote it, my post is more of reaction to you crazy loon. But it sounds to me like the guy has crossed into crazy liberalnut case mode.

Every time you bitch about Bush taking away our rights and post your Bush is Hitler cartoons you disprove your whole point. And your too dumb to understand that.

I mean if if Hitler had the internet in 1939 and there was a guy posting the things about him that you post about Bush, do you think you would still be free or even alive. Hell, no.

In fact as long as you post the crap that you post, I feel safe. When you quit posting, then I will get scared.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I don't care who wrote it, my post is more of reaction to you crazy loon.

Every time you b**** about Bush taking away our rights and post your Bush is Hitler cartoons you disprove your whole point. And your too dumb to understand that.

Another moronic "argument."

Just because all of our rights haven't been taken away doesn't mean our rights aren't slowly but surely eroding, and it doesn't mean elements of a police state aren't being put in place.

If you plan to wait until it's too late to get worried, then that only demonstrates what a bush ostrich you are.

[clarker]

Another moronic "argument."

Just because all of our rights haven't been taken away doesn't mean our rights aren't slowly but surely eroding, and it doesn't mean elements of a police state aren't being put in place.

If you plan to wait until it's too late to get worried, then that only demonstrates what a bush ostrich you are.I can do everything I could before Bush took office. Everything. Longer lines at the airport is the only thing I can think of that is different.

Your a nutball who disproves his own paranoid fantasies with ever stupid cartoon you post.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Your a nutball who disproves his own paranoid fantasies with ever stupid cartoon you post.

You really are a major league idiot, aren't you?

The subject here is not a 'cartoon' - it's an article (written by a right-winger) which explains how our rights are slipping away.

So far, you have yet to address one single issue presented by the author.

But that's consistent with your track record as a reactionary Bush lemming, isn't it?

[clarker]

You can still have problems with Bush like selling the ports to the UAE or Aub Grahb(SP?) and still know that were are far from living in a police state.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You can still have problems with Bush like selling the ports to the UAE or Aub Grahb(SP?) and still know that were are far from living in a police state.

The point (as the article explains) is that we are headed in that direction.

If you had the reading comprehension of a third grader, you would get it.

[clarker]

You really are a major league idiot, aren't you?

The subject here is not a 'cartoon' - it's an article (written by a right-winger) which explains how our rights are slipping away.

So far, you have yet to address one single issue presented by the author.

But that's consistent with your track record as a reactionary Bush lemming, isn't it?If you have free speech, you can speak out.

It is the most important right we have. And in no way has it been damaged by Bush. That is not lemming for anyone. That is not being a parinoid freak, like you.

And I am more worried about Cell phone companies selling my cell phone records to people than I am about wire tapping.


That is not saying Bush is perfect, is far from it. But you go overboard and I think your a little nuts. I mean anyone disagrees with you and call them a ton of names and just go off the deep end. I think they nee to come with the straight jacket for you, before someone gets hurt.

[Spider]

I can do everything I could before Bush took office. Everything. Longer lines at the airport is the only thing I can think of that is different.

Your a nutball who disproves his own paranoid fantasies with ever stupid cartoon you post.
Guess again , I have seen a huge change in what I can or cannot do , take Hazmat endorsement on your CDL for example , I used to carry haz mat , now it isnt worth it , I wont have Haz mat , been to a port latly ? i take it you havent , huge change there , these are not minor things ............

[Spider]

Hey clarker when is the last time someone went through your personal stuff including your clothes in the name of the patriot act ? been 3 weeks for me ..........

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

If you have free speech, you can speak out.

It is the most important right we have. And in no way has it been damaged by Bush. That is not lemming for anyone. That is not being a parinoid freak, like you.

If you are going to sit there and deny all the ways BushCo has attacked free speech over the last five years, then you are obviously in total denial when it comes to the facts and the record.

But that's par for the course for a BushCo Kool-Aid slurper like you.

I mean anyone disagrees with you and call them a ton of names and just go off the deep end.

You are the one who initiated the name-calling here, jackass.

Go back and read your posts on this thread.

[clarker]

Hey clarker when is the last time someone went through your personal stuff including your clothes in the name of the patriot act ? been 3 weeks for me ..........I got searched at the airport pretty good once. Seems pretty reasonable.

If you don't mind me asking about when you were searched, I mean it could be a reasonable thing and it might not be.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

And I am more worried about Cell phone companies selling my cell phone records to people than I am about wire tapping.


But I thought repubs like you were all about "the rule of law?"

Wait - that's only applicable to Democratic presidents who get BJs - I forgot.

[clarker]

If you are going to sit there and deny all the ways BushCo has attacked free speech over the last five years, then you are obviously in total denial when it comes to the facts and the record.

But that's par for the course for a BushCo Kool-Aid slurper like you.



You are the one who initiated the name-calling here, jackass.

Go back and read your posts on this thread.I didn't call you a liberal nut ball, I called the author. But your right he was a right wing nutball.

I said your cartoons were stupid and they are. I said most of your posts are stupid and are the same thing over and over and over again. And I do think you have some pretty parinoid fantasies running around in your mellon.

[clarker]

But I thought repubs like you were all about "the rule of law?"

Wait - that's only applicable to Democratic presidents who get BJs - I forgot.I could care less about Clinton, unless I know I can take a dig at crazy nutball like yourself and get you all pissed off. That is funny to me.

[Spider]

I got searched at the airport pretty good once. Seems pretty reasonable.

If you don't mind me asking about when you were searched, I mean it could be a reasonable thing and it might not be.
Ingleside Texas Dupont plant , loading plywood .......... but it is on port ......
they went through every compartment in my truck , took out my clothes , see when i am in my Rig , this is my home , this where work , sleep eat ..... It is very intrusive to have someone go through it , I dont expect you to understand , but it is bothersome

[clarker]

Ingleside Texas Dupont plant , loading plywood .......... but it is on port ......
they went through every compartment in my truck , took out my clothes , see when i am in my Rig , this is my home , this where work , sleep eat ..... It is very intrusive to have someone go through it , I dont expect you to understand , but it is bothersomeI do understand what a pain in the a** that must be. Not kidding. It would get on my nerves too, but that doesn't mean it isn't unreasonable.

I mean Depont makes chemicals do they not. Might be a place they would want to make sure is secure. I know that your Rig is your home, but it is also part of your work and that kind is different than a person in purley private home.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I didn't call you a liberal nut ball, I called the author. But your right he was a right wing nutball.

Which only proves that you knee-jerked before you bothered to read the article.

But this is consistent with your habit of giving BushCo the benefit of the doubt before you know the facts.

I said your cartoons were stupid and they are. I said most of your posts are stupid and are the same thing over and over and over again. And I do think you have some pretty parinoid fantasies running around in your mellon.

You belong to that willfully ignorant fringe minority on the far-right who still defend the monument to corruption and criminality that is BushCo, so I will take your judgments with several grains of salt.

[clarker]

Which only proves that you knee-jerked before you bothered to read the article.

But this is consistent with your habit of giving BushCo the benefit of the doubt before you know the facts.



You belong to that willfully ignorant fringe minority on the far-right who still defend the monument to corruption and criminality that is BushCo, so I will take your judgments with several grains of salt.And you belong to the crazy nutball, parinoid, two hours away from the looney bin. But it is always fun to rile you up on a slow day. By now

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I could care less about Clinton, unless I know I can take a dig at crazy nutball like yourself and get you all pissed off. That is funny to me.

With Dim Son's approval numbers at 38%, it must take a lot of hard work (read: cognitive dissonance) on your part to write the majority of Americans off as "nutballs."

But that's what bush sheep do, I suppose.

[Spider]

I do understand what a pain in the a** that must be. Not kidding. It would get on my nerves too, but that doesn't mean it isn't unreasonable. but before the Patriot act , it never would have happened and this is mt meaning , you stated that nothing has realy changed , it has ,and not just with that either , I crossed over the boarder in El paso , getting back in was alot easier then going to Lees ranch colemine in San Mateo , or thunder basin in Gilette .......... there are changes , and no they are not reasonable ...they invited me into the port to haul material , I didnt invite myself ......

[clarker]

but before the Patriot act , it never would have happened and this is mt meaning , you stated that nothing has realy changed , it has ,and not just with that either , I crossed over the boarder in El paso , getting back in was alot easier then going to Lees ranch colemine in San Mateo , or thunder basin in Gilette .......... there are changes , and no they are not reasonable ...they invited me into the port to haul material , I didnt invite myself ......Well, see we are going to have to disagree. I don't think Bush is doing enough on the boarders. But Bush and Fox are too close.

I'm sorry, but just that things are not as convenant for you and I get irritated everytime I go to the airport, but I understand why we have to stand in line longer.

I mean I just don't see how that is unreasonable. I think if it gets to the point where we have to have papers just to go from state to state, then I think we have went to far.

[Spider]

Well, see we are going to have to disagree. I don't think Bush is doing enough on the boarders. But Bush and Fox are too close.
I take it you havent crossed the boarder ..........If i was a terrorist , piece of cake .........

I'm sorry, but just that things are not as convenant for you and I get irritated everytime I go to the airport, but I understand why we have to stand in line longer. this isnt about waiting in line , I never complained about waiting in line ???

I mean I just don't see how that is unreasonable. I think if it gets to the point where we have to have papers just to go from state to state, then I think we have went to far.Ha! i already have to have papers ever see a POE ? I have to clear them , the one in FortCollins is a bítch ........But dude I am not ok with giving up 1 freedom .

[clarker]

I take it you havent crossed the boarder ..........If i was a terrorist , piece of cake .........

this isnt about waiting in line , I never complained about waiting in line ???

Ha! i already have to have papers ever see a POE ? I have to clear them , the one in FortCollins is a bítch ........But dude I am not ok with giving up 1 freedom .I don't see how the it is giving up a right. I'm sorry but your a truck at the Depont(SP?) plant. I mean they do make chemicals right. It seems like a reasonalble thing to a have random checks. And more than one. I don't know your routes but it seems like you go all over the country. Just because you check out at one place doesn't mean you should get a free pass for the rest of the country.

I understand how you feel your rig is your home, but in truth it is your place of buisness and I think in your line of work it comes with the territory. I'm not trying to be a jerk, just the way I feel.

[Spider]

I don't see how the it is giving up a right. I'm sorry but your a truck at the Depont(SP?) plant. I mean they do make chemicals right. It seems like a reasonalble thing to a have random checks. And more than one. I don't know your routes but it seems like you go all over the country. Just because you check out at one place doesn't mean you should get a free pass for the rest of the country.

I understand how you feel your rig is your home, but in truth it is your place of buisness and I think in your line of work it comes with the territory. I'm not trying to be a jerk, just the way I feel.Hilarious! Just 1 place ? naw , I just told you the most recent , so what they make Chemicals big fúcking deal , how in the hell do I get Chemicals out on a flatbed ? or if I were to attack the Plant , why would I use a flatbed ?
Fúcking chemicals , you can get shít at a auto parts store worse then that .....
I tell you what comes with my line of work #1 step , your safty ........
I can deal with logbooks , DOT inspections , Drug and booze testing , but what I dont have to put up with is bullshít , you want to make America safe? Stop fúcking with hard working Americans , and do somthing about the Fúcking boarders ..

[clarker]

Hilarious! Just 1 place ? naw , I just told you the most recent , so what they make Chemicals big fúcking deal , how in the hell do I get Chemicals out on a flatbed ? or if I were to attack the Plant , why would I use a flatbed ?
Fúcking chemicals , you can get shít at a auto parts store worse then that .....
I tell you what comes with my line of work #1 step , your safty ........
I can deal with logbooks , DOT inspections , Drug and booze testing , but what I dont have to put up with is bullshít , you want to make America safe? Stop fúcking with hard working Americans , and do somthing about the Fúcking boarders ..You just said that your were pissed because it was harder to get across the boarder. Come on, Spider. You can't have it both ways.

BTW, not sound like a smart ass or pick a fight, but you have a cab right. It is not just the flat bed. You could be hiding something in the cab.

[Spider]

You just said that your were pissed because it was harder to get across the boarder. Come on, Spider. You can't have it both ways. I said it was easy to cross the boarder .........

BTW, not sound like a smart ass or pick a fight, but you have a cab right. It is not just the flat bed. You could be hiding something in the cab.Compared to what I can hide ina Dry box or a tanker ? what I can put in my cab wont do shít ..............

[clarker]

I said it was easy to cross the boarder .........

Compared to what I can hide ina Dry box or a tanker ? what I can put in my cab wont do shít ..............1. I misread that then, I'm sorry.
2. You can make a bomb that can fit in a suitcase. Or so I'm told;D

I think we will have to agree to disagree for tonight, I'm off to get ready to go see the new Harrison Ford flick. Later Spider and be safe on the road.

[Spider]

1. I misread that then, I'm sorry.
2. You can make a bomb that can fit in a suitcase. Or so I'm told;D

I think we will have to agree to disagree for tonight, I'm off to get ready to go see the new Harrison Ford flick. Later Spider and be safe on the road.
Thanks enjoy the movie ........ I will tell you what the Patriot act is in a nutshell , it is a political tool for bunch of stupid lazy bastards in congress that wasnt paying attention , it is a feel good for them answer ......

[clarker]

Thanks enjoy the movie ........ I will tell you what the Patriot act is in a nutshell , it is a political tool for bunch of stupid lazy bastards in congress that wasnt paying attention , it is a feel good for them answer ......Well, you might have a point there, but I really do have to run now. The wife is telling me to get my ass ready to go.

[baja]

Well I for one feel more safe when I see an 80+ year old women unlacing her shoes at the airport with tears in her eyes because her flight is leaving in 20 minutes.

[DBruleU]

but before the Patriot act , it never would have happened and this is mt meaning , you stated that nothing has realy changed , it has ,and not just with that either , I crossed over the boarder in El paso , getting back in was alot easier then going to Lees ranch colemine in San Mateo , or thunder basin in Gilette .......... there are changes , and no they are not reasonable ...they invited me into the port to haul material , I didnt invite myself ......

Honestly, Im glad they did that. At least what Bush is doing could potentially stop a terrorist attack. At least they are searching even people like you. What do you have to hide anyways? I couldn't care less if Im wire tapped. They can listen to me talk to Aunt Edna if they want, but I seriously doubt they just evesdrop on unsuspecting civilians living in the middle of Indiana. I want them to do everything that the Patriot Act allows them to do....and sicne it works, I wouldnt expect you nut job libs to like it...cause anything Bush does that works, you obviously wont like, even if it means its for the better good of each and every American.

[DBruleU]

Well I for one feel more safe when I see an 80+ year old women unlacing her shoes at the airport with tears in her eyes because her flight is leaving in 20 minutes.

She should get there earlier then. Cant help that. And Im sure you've seen many 80 year old women getting searched.

[baja]

She should get there earlier then. Cant help that.<b> And Im sure you've seen many 80 year old women getting searched.</b>

Two actually and the point is a shoe bombing is probably going to first occur sometime after the next three port entry breaches resulting in catastrophic events.

It's like guarding the pencils in the supply closet while while the thieves are emptying the safe.

[Pendejo]

Honestly, Im glad they did that. At least what Bush is doing could potentially stop a terrorist attack. At least they are searching even people like you. What do you have to hide anyways? I couldn't care less if Im wire tapped. They can listen to me talk to Aunt Edna if they want, but I seriously doubt they just evesdrop on unsuspecting civilians living in the middle of Indiana. I want them to do everything that the Patriot Act allows them to do....and sicne it works, I wouldnt expect you nut job libs to like it...cause anything Bush does that works, you obviously wont like, even if it means its for the better good of each and every American.

Wow. You're an exceptionally good German.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Wow. You're an exceptionally good German.

Scary, isn't it? :oyvey:

[Spider]

Honestly, Im glad they did that. At least what Bush is doing could potentially stop a terrorist attack. At least they are searching even people like you. What do you have to hide anyways? I couldn't care less if Im wire tapped. They can listen to me talk to Aunt Edna if they want, but I seriously doubt they just evesdrop on unsuspecting civilians living in the middle of Indiana. I want them to do everything that the Patriot Act allows them to do....and sicne it works, I wouldnt expect you nut job libs to like it...cause anything Bush does that works, you obviously wont like, even if it means its for the better good of each and every American.
you want ti give up your freedom , thats on you , dont expect the rest of us to hand over our freedom...........Bush aint doing Shít , Like I said crossing the boarder is easy , to freaking easy ...... People who are willing to give up freedom in the name of protection deserve niether

[Spider]

Honestly, Im glad they did that. At least what Bush is doing could potentially stop a terrorist attack. At least they are searching even people like you. What do you have to hide anyways? I couldn't care less if Im wire tapped. They can listen to me talk to Aunt Edna if they want, but I seriously doubt they just evesdrop on unsuspecting civilians living in the middle of Indiana. I want them to do everything that the Patriot Act allows them to do....and sicne it works, I wouldnt expect you nut job libs to like it...cause anything Bush does that works, you obviously wont like, even if it means its for the better good of each and every American.
i wont insult you but you sound like castro .......... he has the same outlook on his People and the way he governs

[DBruleU]

i wont insult you but you sound like castro .......... he has the same outlook on his People and the way he governs

Funny, none of my freedoms have been taken away from me since Bush took office.

[Spider]

I couldnt imagine what it would be like to be as scared as DBruleu to give up my freedoms ..... man

[Spider]

Funny, none of my freedoms have been taken away from me since Bush took office.
get out here in the real world ........ LALA land is no place to be

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Funny, none of my freedoms have been taken away from me since Bush took office.

Maybe you were just too busy bowing and scraping for Bush to notice?

Hint: Start by reading the Fourth Amendment.

[DBruleU]

Maybe you were just too busy bowing and scraping for Bush to notice?

Hint: Start by reading the Fourth Amendment.

Oh yeah? Has Bush tapped your line already. I thought I heard him breathing on the other line the other night while I was talking to my Uncle. That nosy man.

[DBruleU]

get out here in the real world ........ LALA land is no place to be

If the real world involves collecting welfare checks and being a trucker, then thats no place I want to be.

[Spider]

If the real world involves collecting welfare checks and being a trucker, then thats no place I want to be.
LOL welfare checks huh ........ Like I say since you are a Damn coward , you can move to a a place where the goverment will protect your whiney little áss ........Oh please someone protect me the boogie man is out to get me ...... Grow a pair already you commie bastard

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Oh yeah? Has Bush tapped your line already. I thought I heard him breathing on the other line the other night while I was talking to my Uncle. That nosy man.

Willing to surrender your Fourth Amendment rights for a wannabe king?

If you had lived during the American Revolution, you would've undoubtedly been defending King George against those "radical leftists."

[DBruleU]

LOL welfare checks huh ........ Like I say since you are a Damn coward , you can move to a a place where the goverment will protect your whiney little áss ........Oh please someone protect me the boogie man is out to get me ...... Grow a pair already you commie bastard

Riiiight. That made sense...

I believe the whiners are you...and LABF...and the rest of the not-in-power party.

[Spider]

Willing to surrender your Fourth Amendment rights for a wannabe king?

If you had lived during the American Revolution, you would've undoubtedly been defending King George against those "radical leftists."
No doubt , he would have sold the USA out from the get go .........

[Spider]

Riiiight. That made sense...

I believe the whiners are you...and LABF...and the rest of the not-in-power party.
Yeah you see me asking bush to take my freedoms to protect me cause I am scared of the boogie man

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I believe the whiners are you...and LABF...and the rest of the not-in-power party.

Says a member of the fringe minority still supporting the monument to corruption, criminality, and incompetence that is BushCo.

Let's see - only 38% still support the boy king, according to the latest polls.

Must be "hard work" trying to broad brush the rest of your fellow Americans as crazy leftists, huh?

[baja]

Riiiight. That made sense...

I believe the whiners are you...and LABF...and the rest of the not-in-power party.

Do you really think this is about a political aprty.

Bush is destroying the United States of America and that concerns all Americans. And i do mean destroy.

[Pendejo]

Do you really think this is about a political aprty.

Bush is destroying the United States of America and that concerns all Americans. And i do mean destroy.

You're being too harsh baja. What's he really done besides trying to lay the groundwork for a big brother state. Raping the treasury, and starting a war that has killed thousands of American's, and who knows how many other people. Sure the legacy of his presidency will be that of the man who's junta was able to make two terms despite his amazing scandal/per minute spent in office ratio.

People talking about how they have nothing to hide, so they don't care if the government is listening are absolute boobs, and deserve whatever they get. I pay my taxes, and I don't want any more government interference in my daily life than I'm already forced to deal with.

These druids who support Bush, and his band of pirates probably read their own kid's diaries under the guise of..."Why should they care...unless they have something to hide." a la...unless they're guilty. They simply brush aside the fact that the act is despicable and in Bush's case illegal. How fvcking scared and or arrogant do you have to be to fall in line with that sh!t. As the late great HST might say...welcome to the kingdom of fear...the land of the new dumb.

[Spider]

You're being too harsh baja. What's he really done besides trying to lay the groundwork for a big brother state. Raping the treasury, and starting a war that has killed thousands of American's, and who knows how many other people. Sure the legacy of his presidency will be that of the man who's junta was able to make two terms despite his amazing scandal/per minute spent in office ratio.

People talking about how they have nothing to hide, so they don't care if the government is listening are absolute boobs, and deserve whatever they get. I pay my taxes, and I don't want any more government interference in my daily life than I'm already forced to deal with.

These druids who support Bush, and his band of pirates probably read their own kid's diaries under the guise of..."Why should they care...unless they have something to hide." a la...unless they're guilty. They simply brush aside the fact that the act is despicable and in Bush's case illegal. How fvcking scared and or arrogant do you have to be to fall in line with that sh!t. As the late great HST might say...welcome to the kingdom of fear...the land of the new dumb.
That left mark .........;D good job

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These druids who support Bush, and his band of pirates probably read their own kid's diaries under the guise of..."Why should they care...unless they have something to hide." a la...unless they're guilty. They simply brush aside the fact that the act is despicable and in Bush's case illegal. How fvcking scared and or arrogant do you have to be to fall in line with that sh!t. As the late great HST might say...welcome to the kingdom of fear...the land of the new dumb.

Hammer, nail, head. ^5

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[alkemical]

I don't care who wrote it, my post is more of reaction to you crazy loon. But it sounds to me like the guy has crossed into crazy liberalnut case mode.

Every time you b**** about Bush taking away our rights and post your Bush is Hitler cartoons you disprove your whole point. And your too dumb to understand that.

I mean if if Hitler had the internet in 1939 and there was a guy posting the things about him that you post about Bush, do you think you would still be free or even alive. Hell, no.

In fact as long as you post the crap that you post, I feel safe. When you quit posting, then I will get scared.

see "create an e-annoyance, go to jail" news stories.

[alkemical]

Honestly, Im glad they did that. At least what Bush is doing could potentially stop a terrorist attack. At least they are searching even people like you. What do you have to hide anyways? I couldn't care less if Im wire tapped. They can listen to me talk to Aunt Edna if they want, but I seriously doubt they just evesdrop on unsuspecting civilians living in the middle of Indiana. I want them to do everything that the Patriot Act allows them to do....and sicne it works, I wouldnt expect you nut job libs to like it...cause anything Bush does that works, you obviously wont like, even if it means its for the better good of each and every American.


if i'm doing nothing wrong, why do 'they' have the right to treat me as though i'm a suspect?

[alkemical]

You're being too harsh baja. What's he really done besides trying to lay the groundwork for a big brother state. Raping the treasury, and starting a war that has killed thousands of American's, and who knows how many other people. Sure the legacy of his presidency will be that of the man who's junta was able to make two terms despite his amazing scandal/per minute spent in office ratio.

People talking about how they have nothing to hide, so they don't care if the government is listening are absolute boobs, and deserve whatever they get. I pay my taxes, and I don't want any more government interference in my daily life than I'm already forced to deal with.

These druids who support Bush, and his band of pirates probably read their own kid's diaries under the guise of..."Why should they care...unless they have something to hide." a la...unless they're guilty. They simply brush aside the fact that the act is despicable and in Bush's case illegal. How fvcking scared and or arrogant do you have to be to fall in line with that sh!t. As the late great HST might say...welcome to the kingdom of fear...the land of the new dumb.

don't insult druids like that :wiggle:

[sledgehammer]

Let's see - only 38% still support the boy king, according to the latest polls.

Most of that 38% consists of dumb rednecks and people who serve the republican party.

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That 38% consists of dumb rednecks and people who serve the republican party.

Exactly.

The same people who voted for this moron again in '04.

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