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Spider
02-14-2006, 11:32 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11329983/site/newsweek/
WEB-EXCLUSIVE SATIRE
By Andy Borowitz
Newsweek
Updated: 2:32 p.m. ET Feb. 13, 2006

Feb. 13, 2006 - Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced today that his department would immediately implement a “Cheney Alert” system to warn Americans if an attack by the vice president is imminent.


The Department of Homeland Security has been under pressure to respond to the widespread panic and anxiety that have gripped the nation since Cheney shot and wounded a fellow quail hunter while on a hunting trip in Texas over the weekend.

Across the country, people have holed up in their homes and hoarded food and water, fearing another senseless attack by the gun-toting vice president.

“What we have learned, the hard way, is that Dick Cheney can attack without warning,” Chertoff said. “It is our hope that with this Cheney Alert system we will be able to give the American people some warning before he strikes again.”

The alert system, with five color-coded levels indicating the likelihood of another brutal pellet attack by the Vice President, was derided by some in Congress such as Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del), who likened it to “closing the barn door after the horses have escaped.”

“The fact is, the White House already had ample warning that Dick Cheney was going to strike, and they sat on their hands and did nothing,” Biden said, referring to a Presidential Daily Brief dated February 4 with the title, “Dick Cheney Determined to Strike in U.S.”

Elsewhere, former Education Secretary William Bennett said that he was “outraged” that an NHL gambling ring has been in operation for five years and he was never invited to participate in it.

Spider
02-14-2006, 11:55 AM
Here is the new system

Garcia Bronco
02-14-2006, 12:06 PM
LMAO at he's buying ammo

Spider
02-14-2006, 12:07 PM
LMAO at he's buying ammo
;D i got them backwards , Cheney has to leave the house to buy ammo ....... oops

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-14-2006, 03:59 PM
LOL

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/p/k/cheney_elmer_cheney.jpg

Spider
02-14-2006, 04:08 PM
Here is a better one

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-14-2006, 04:13 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/was-cheney-drunk_b_15646.html

Was Cheney Drunk?

Lawrence O'Donnell
02.14.2006

The L.A. Times is edging closer to the most likely reason for the 18 hour delay in reporting that the Vice President of the United States shot someone:

"This was a hunting accident," said Gilbert San Miguel, chief deputy of the Kenedy County Sheriff's Office. "There was no alcohol or misconduct."

How do we know there was no alcohol? Cheney refused to talk to local authorities until the next day. No point in giving him a breathalyzer then. Every lawyer I've talked to assumes Cheney was too drunk to talk to the cops after the shooting. The next question for the White House should be: Was Cheney drunk?

I have never gone hunting with ultra-rich Republicans on a Saturday afternoon, but I have seen them tailgating at Ivy League football games, so it's hard for me to believe that any of their Saturday lunches are alcohol free.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-14-2006, 04:14 PM
Cheney cited for breaking Texas hunting law

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11340558/

After all they have done, Cheney is cited for not paying 7$. The irony.

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney has been given a warning citation for breaking Texas hunting law by failing to buy a $7 stamp allowing him to shoot upland game birds.

The warning came from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department after it investigated Cheney’s accidental shooting of a fellow quail hunter Saturday on the private Armstrong Ranch in the south part of the state.

The department found the accident was caused by a “hunter’s judgment factor” when Cheney sprayed another hunter while aiming at flying birds.

The report said the victim, prominent Republican attorney Harry Whittington of Austin, was retrieving a downed bird and stepped out of the hunting line he was sharing with Cheney. “Another covey was flushed and Cheney swung on a bird and fired, striking Whittington in the face, neck and chest at approximately 30 yards,” the report said.

Cheney, an experienced hunter, has not commented publicly about the accident. His office said Monday night in a statement that Cheney had a $125 nonresident hunting license and has sent a $7 check to cover the cost of the stamp. “The staff asked for all permits needed, but was not informed of the $7 upland game bird stamp requirement,” the statement said.

Whittington also received a warning for failing to have the stamp. A department spokesman said warnings are being issued in most cases because the stamp requirement only went into effect five months ago and many hunters aren’t aware of it.

RaiderH8r
02-14-2006, 04:26 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/was-cheney-drunk_b_15646.html

Was Cheney Drunk?

Lawrence O'Donnell
02.14.2006

The L.A. Times is edging closer to the most likely reason for the 18 hour delay in reporting that the Vice President of the United States shot someone:

"This was a hunting accident," said Gilbert San Miguel, chief deputy of the Kenedy County Sheriff's Office. "There was no alcohol or misconduct."

How do we know there was no alcohol? Cheney refused to talk to local authorities until the next day. No point in giving him a breathalyzer then. Every lawyer I've talked to assumes Cheney was too drunk to talk to the cops after the shooting. The next question for the White House should be: Was Cheney drunk?

I have never gone hunting with ultra-rich Republicans on a Saturday afternoon, but I have seen them tailgating at Ivy League football games, so it's hard for me to believe that any of their Saturday lunches are alcohol free.
Huffington is never one to disappoint with her stupidity. She should have just stopped after she said, "I have never gone hunting..." Because that was where the accuracy and validity of her statement ended.

She also says, "Every lawyer I've talked to assumes...". I assume that, because no thinking individual could tolerate her stupidity for more than 60 consecutive seconds, that every lawyer she talked to amounts to every like minded, biased, vitriole spewing, lawyer she talked to, which is why she found such unanimity in their positions. And how many lawyers did she talk to? Hmm, curiously omitted.

Tailgating, ahh, now there's a standard by which we can assume everyone's sobriety in every facet of their day to day lives. I've never gone throwing pies at Ann Coulter with hate filled hippies, but I've been to a Phish concert, so it's hard for me to believe that any of their day to day driving would not be mary jane free.

Or, better yet, I've been to receptions with Ted Kennedy and I've sat next to him at Bistro Bis watching him suck down vodka tonics so it's hard for me to believe he does ANYTHING while sober. Mary Jane Kopechne is still unavailable for comment.

Incidentally, on the humor front, the WAPO style section today was littered with buckshot through and through.

gunns
02-14-2006, 04:32 PM
Hunter Shot by Cheney Has Heart Attack
AP - 29 minutes ago
CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas - The 78-year-old lawyer wounded by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident suffered a mild heart attack Tuesday after a shotgun pellet in his chest traveled to his heart, hospital officials said. Harry Whittington was immediately moved back to the intensive care unit and will be watched for a week to make sure more of the metal pellets do not reach other vital organs. He was reported in stable condition.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-14-2006, 10:50 PM
Huffington is never one to disappoint with her stupidity. She should have just stopped after she said, "I have never gone hunting..." Because that was where the accuracy and validity of her statement ended.

So, in other words, you were a member of Cheney's hunting party and you can personally confirm that Big Dick wasn't drinking?

Wow - I had no idea you were so connected, dude.


Or, better yet, I've been to receptions with Ted Kennedy and I've sat next to him at Bistro Bis watching him suck down vodka tonics so it's hard for me to believe he does ANYTHING while sober.

Ha ha ha! :giggle:

Interesting that you should mention Ted Kennedy...

From now on, thanks to Cheney, whenever some right-winger brings up Chappaquidick, all us liberals will have to do is mention Deadeye Dick.

Remember: According to your rules, they cancel each other out. :D

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-14-2006, 11:16 PM
Join Dead-Eye Dick's Gun Club!


http://www.dickcheneygunclub.com/

baja
02-15-2006, 12:44 AM
He may have shot the guy to draw focus on him and away from bush given the week it's been. :-)

RaiderH8r
02-15-2006, 07:44 AM
So, in other words, you were a member of Cheney's hunting party and you can personally confirm that Big Dick wasn't drinking?

Wow - I had no idea you were so connected, dude.



Ha ha ha! :giggle:

Interesting that you should mention Ted Kennedy...

From now on, thanks to Cheney, whenever some right-winger brings up Chappaquidick, all us liberals will have to do is mention Deadeye Dick.

Remember: According to your rules, they cancel each other out. :D
My point went straight over your head. I guess I should have made it easier. My point was that Huff-n-puff begins by clearly stating that, "I have never gone hunting..." and then proceeds to make an assertion that has absolutely NO basis in fact. I guarantee Huff-n-puff CAN NOT personally confirm that big Dick WAS drinking. Presumption of innocence apparently only applies to terrorists as far as liberals are concerned.

I did the same thing and somehow you missed it. I figured you'd pick up on it.

But yes, Ted is perpetually drunk but has since hired a driver so it all works out for Teddy Chap.

Mary Joe Kopechne is still unavailable for comment.

And Deadeye Dick didn't leave someone to die while running off to establish an alibi.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-15-2006, 09:30 PM
My point went straight over your head. I guess I should have made it easier. My point was that Huff-n-puff begins by clearly stating that, "I have never gone hunting..." and then proceeds to make an assertion that has absolutely NO basis in fact.

Not surprisingly, you have it bass-ackwards again.

My point was essentially that Huffington doesn't need to know anything about hunting in order to raise the question "was Cheney drinking?" (Not an unreasonable question, given Cheney's record of DUI arrests coupled with the other suspicious circumstances surrounding the accident.)

I guarantee Huff-n-puff CAN NOT personally confirm that big Dick WAS drinking.

And, unless you were part of Cheney's hunting party, you cannot personally confirm that Big Dick was not drinking.

At this juncture, no one claims to know for sure one way or the other.

In other words, it's still an open question.


And Deadeye Dick didn't leave someone to die while running off to establish an alibi.

The jury is still out on that account.

Spider
02-15-2006, 09:41 PM
Cheney admitted to drinking a beer , 1 beer and that is normaly followed by honest officer ..........so lets review .......... Cheney tells cops 14 hours later mehhh I wasnt drinking ........ 4 days later on TV he admits to a beer ......
and yet me and LABF a ridiculed for saying Cheney is full of shít ..........All I can say is alot of people live in La La land ............

clarker
02-15-2006, 10:13 PM
Here is a better oneThat is funny. On the Dailey show John Stewart said that after the guy had a heart attack the story had to be down graded from Hilarious(SP?) to Funny, but a little sad.

Leno said he had a nightmare that he was at a Washington D.C. party and was forced to either go hunting with Dick Cheney or a take ride in a car with Ted Kennedey.

Someone got shot and Cheney may or might not have been drinking when it happened so I should laugh, but I can't help it.

Spider
02-15-2006, 10:21 PM
Leno said he had a nightmare that he was at a Washington D.C. party and was forced to either go hunting with Dick Cheney or a take ride in a car with Ted Kennedey.


LOL taking a car ride with Kennedy ? i would just as soon go hunting with Cheney

clarker
02-15-2006, 10:29 PM
LOL taking a car ride with Kennedy ? i would just as soon go hunting with CheneyTalk about a rock and a hard place. I don't think I would sign up to do either.

Spider
02-15-2006, 10:33 PM
Talk about a rock and a hard place. I don't think I would sign up to do either.
but with cheney you can shoot back ;D cant very well drive back with Teddy

clarker
02-15-2006, 10:35 PM
but with cheney you can shoot back ;D cant very well drive back with TeddyAnd at least Dick will make sure you get some help. Ted will leave you there to take a shower.

Either way your putting your life in the hands of people who "May or May Not have been drinking too much." Scary.

Spider
02-15-2006, 10:39 PM
And at least Dick will make sure you get some help. Ted will leave you there to take a shower. HaQ! that is true

Either way your putting your life in the hands of people who "May or May Not have been drinking too much." Scary.
no kidding , I ammaking light of a serious situation , I still dont know why Kennedy didnt do any time , he should have , but.... he will get his some day

clarker
02-15-2006, 10:43 PM
HaQ! that is true


no kidding , I ammaking light of a serious situation , I still dont know why Kennedy didnt do any time , he should have , but.... he will get his some dayI shouldn't be laughing about it, I can't help it.;D

I would love tell all you libs that making too much of this, but until we know for sure just how much he had to drink I can't. Oh, well.

Spider
02-15-2006, 11:03 PM
I shouldn't be laughing about it, I can't help it.;D

I would love tell all you libs that making too much of this, but until we know for sure just how much he had to drink I can't. Oh, well.
The main thing is the guy lives , I doubt Cheney was drunk , but when you have had alittle , it can affect your judgement ...... Now far as teddy there is no excuse , he should have been locked up ..........

clarker
02-15-2006, 11:06 PM
The main thing is the guy lives , I doubt Cheney was drunk , but when you have had alittle , it can affect your judgement ...... Now far as teddy there is no excuse , he should have been locked up ..........I doubt he was drunk too, but I do think it is fair to at least do some digging.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-15-2006, 11:09 PM
Given the fishy circumstances surrounding the incident and Big Dick's history of DUIs, it's not an unreasonable question.

baja
02-16-2006, 08:13 AM
It's tragic comedy that this gets so much press and the recent report from a high ranking CIA official disclosing bush administration's cherry picking of intel to make a case to attack Iraq gets an oh huh reaction.

What has happened to this country.

Spider
02-16-2006, 08:16 AM
It's tragic comedy that this gets so much press and the recent report from a high ranking CIA official disclosing bush administration's cherry picking of intel to make a case to attack Iraq gets an oh huh reaction.

What has happened to this country.
I tell you what happened , parents have taken people like errand and said , ou are not stupid sweety , you are special , you can do anything you want to do , this is america , your voice is as important as the next guys ...... Instead of being honest and saying , well son you are stupid as the day is long , learn a trade , and leaving the thinking ot other people ...............

RaiderH8r
02-16-2006, 09:17 AM
I tell you what happened , parents have taken people like errand and said , ou are not stupid sweety , you are special , you can do anything you want to do , this is america , your voice is as important as the next guys ...... Instead of being honest and saying , well son you are stupid as the day is long , learn a trade , and leaving the thinking ot other people ...............
Somebody did the same thing to Reid and Pelosi but that's what comes of coddling the youth.

Seriousness aside, what happened here is that the AP, Reuters, NYT, et al are pissed that they were scooped by a podunk small town newspaper and they're having a collective hissy fit. That hissy fit snowballed into what we have today on basically a 1-2 day story. It's kind of funny, but not ha-ha funny.

RaiderH8r
02-16-2006, 09:24 AM
Not surprisingly, you have it bass-ackwards again.

My point was essentially that Huffington doesn't need to know anything about hunting in order to raise the question "was Cheney drinking?" (Not an unreasonable question, given Cheney's record of DUI arrests coupled with the other suspicious circumstances surrounding the accident.)



And, unless you were part of Cheney's hunting party, you cannot personally confirm that Big Dick was not drinking.

At this juncture, no one claims to know for sure one way or the other.

In other words, it's still an open question.



The jury is still out on that account.
She doesn't ask a question, she makes an assertion based on 1. Her having attended a tailgate and 2. Having gotten feedback from "every lawyer she talked to" without a) identifying how many lawyers make up her sample group b) addressing the style and substance of the interview or c) making reference to the context in which she spoke to them.

She ceded her position of asking the question when she began making assertions based on the aforementioned information. Her intent is clear. I make no claims either, however, Huff-n-puff is willing to assume guilt in a situation she knows little to nothing about. But since when does she know any more than that about any given topic? She's a charlotan masquerading as a crusader and deserves all the ridicule and derision that comes her way as a result of her half-witted assertions and conclusions.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-16-2006, 11:10 PM
She doesn't ask a question, she makes an assertion based on 1. Her having attended a tailgate and 2. Having gotten feedback from "every lawyer she talked to" without a) identifying how many lawyers make up her sample group b) addressing the style and substance of the interview or c) making reference to the context in which she spoke to them.

She ceded her position of asking the question when she began making assertions based on the aforementioned information. Her intent is clear. I make no claims either, however, Huff-n-puff is willing to assume guilt in a situation she knows little to nothing about. But since when does she know any more than that about any given topic? She's a charlotan masquerading as a crusader and deserves all the ridicule and derision that comes her way as a result of her half-witted assertions and conclusions.

Can't hit the broad side of a barn, can you?

First of all, the artlcle was written by Lawrence O'Donnell - not Arianna Huffington.

Second, the fact that the title of the piece is a question, viz., "was Cheney drunk?" should have clued you in to the fact that no 'assertion' was being made (just a lot of questions asked and suspicious circumstances noted.)

Third, given the aforesaid suspicious circumstances surrounding the incident and, given Cheney's history of DUI arrests, the questions are perfectly reasonable.

http://www.bartcop.com/cheney-gun-spin.gif

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-16-2006, 11:47 PM
How we know Cheney was lying

1. He said that he and Ms. Armstrong agreed that she should release the information. But this doesn't match her earlier statements that she hadn't talked to him about releasing the information.

2. He said he'd had one beer at lunch, but this doesn't match Ms. Armstrong's testimony that no one was drinking earlier in the day but that Cheney had mixed himself a cocktail with dinner that evening. The strange case of the MSNBC disappearing reference to alcohol on their website raises suspicion that someone from the White House arm-twisted them into removing the sentence but the bloggers got it put back. This is a clue that the Administration is concerned about any mention of the elephant in the room that alcohol was involved in the shooting.

3. He said that Armstrong was an eye witness and had seen everything, but she stated that the first thing she saw was people running to the scene and she guessed that Cheney must have had a heart attack.

4. He said that he didn't go to the hospital with his friend because it was too crowded in the ambulance. But there were other vehicles available and it makes no sense that he wouldn't go to the hospital UNLESS he had something to hide, such as being inebriated. Remember he has two DUIs from his youth so alcohol abuse is a part of his history. In addition, he cited his lack of knowledge about Whittington's condition as a reason to delay telling the press, but if he had been at the hospital - as anyone else in a similar situation who had nothing to hide would have been - he would have known, first hand, what Whittington's condition was.

5. A deputy was turned away on Saturday night without having a chance to interview Cheney. Cheney said it was because there was already an appointment for the next morning. But how many people do you know who get to dictate when they are questioned by police when they may be the ones who were negligent or criminally negligent in their use of alcohol while operating a firearm or a vehicle for that matter?

6. He said he had the power to declassify information UNILATERALLY. That is impossible. He would have had to clear it with the CIA first and they obviously wouldn't have cleared it as they were upset that Plame was outed. This statement is perhaps his greatest mistake in the interview and will most certainly come back to haunt him in the future. It's simply NOT plausible that one person could out a CIA agent for political purposes without even checking with the CIA.

7. The other woman on the hunt, Pamela Willeford, the U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland, was apparently standing right next to Cheney and she, strangely, has not been questioned and has made no public statement about what happened.

8. The shooting could not have been at 30 yards and have the shot penetrate heavy hunting clothes and enter the heart muscle. It must have been much closer which raises even more questions. A C-SPAN caller said it would have had to be at around 12 feet. That is just speculation but the physics of the situation do not match Cheney's story.

How can we get at the truth:

1. The other woman witness, Pamela Willeford, must be interviewed by competent law enforcement officials.

2. The blood alcohol level from the hospital blood test of Whittington should be released.

3. The secret service after action report should be made public and the secret service agents on duty must be asked to testify as they were in the Clinton impeachment.

4. The medications Cheney was on should be made public along with their side-effects when mixed with alcohol.

I have very little faith that any of this will be done by the administration, but perhaps some solid, investigative journalist may get the information.

ak1971
02-16-2006, 11:49 PM
How we know Cheney was lying

1. He said that he and Ms. Armstrong agreed that she should release the information. But this doesn't match her earlier statements that she hadn't talked to him about releasing the information.

2. He said he'd had one beer at lunch, but this doesn't match Ms. Armstrong's testimony that no one was drinking earlier in the day but that Cheney had mixed himself a corktail with dinner that evening. The strange case of the MSNBC disappearing reference to alcohol on their website raises suspicion that someone from the White House arm-twisted them into removing the sentence but the bloggers got it put back. This is a clue that the Administration is concerned about any mention of the elephant in the room that alcohol was involved in the shooting.

3. He said that Armstrong was an eye witness and had seen everything, but she stated that the first thing she saw was people running to the scene and she guessed that Cheney must have had a heart attack.

4. He said that he didn't go to the hospital with his friend because it was too crowded in the ambulance. But there were other vehicles available and it makes no sense that he wouldn't go to the hospital UNLESS he had something to hide, such as being inebriated. Remember he has two DUIs from his youth so alcohol abuse is a part of his history. In addition, he cited his lack of knowledge about Whittington's condition as a reason to delay telling the press, but if he had been at the hospital - as anyone else in a similar situation who had nothing to hide would have been - he would have known, first hand, what Whittington's condition was.

5. A deputy was turned away on Saturday night without having a chance to interview Cheney. Cheney said it was because there was already an appointment for the next morning. But how many people do you know who get to dictate when they are questioned by police when they may be the ones who were negligent or criminally negligent in their use of alcohol while operating a firearm or a vehicle for that matter?

6. He said he had the power to declassify information UNILATERALLY. That is impossible. He would have had to clear it with the CIA first and they obviously wouldn't have cleared it as they were upset that Plame was outed. This statement is perhaps his greatest mistake in the interview and will most certainly come back to haunt him in the future. It's simply NOT plausible that one person could out a CIA agent for political purposes without even checking with the CIA.

7. The other woman on the hunt, Pamela Willeford, the U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland, was apparently standing right next to Cheney and she, strangely, has not been questioned and has made no public statement about what happened.

8. The shooting could not have been at 30 yards and have the shot penetrate heavy hunting clothes and enter the heart muscle. It must have been much closer which raises even more questions. A C-SPAN caller said it would have had to be at around 12 feet. That is just speculation but the physics of the situation do not match Cheney's story.

How can we get at the truth:

1. The other woman witness, Pamela Willeford, must be interviewed by competent law enforcement officials.

2. The blood alcohol level from the hospital blood test of Whittington should be released.

3. The secret service after action report should be made public and the secret service agents on duty must be asked to testify as they were in the Clinton impeachment.

4. The medications Cheney was on should be made public along with their side-effects when mixed with alcohol.

I have very little faith that any of this will be done by the administration, but perhaps some solid, investigative journalist may get the information.link?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-16-2006, 11:51 PM
Looks like somebody hasn't been paying attention.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-16-2006, 11:57 PM
Play the Dick Cheney Quail Hunting Game!

See if YOUR skills are better than our Godly Vice-President's!

http://dickcheneyquailhunt.cf.huffingtonpost.com/

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-17-2006, 12:01 AM
Cheney talks, the coverup continues

Watching Dead-eye Dick Cheney break his silence on Fox, I kept thinking: This is what it looks like when a man who is used to getting away with covering up the truth finally has to explain himself.

He did a lousy job -- especially on the key question of why it took so long to let the public know.

He offered a host of reasons for the 18 hour delay: he was more concerned with taking care of his friend than about notifying the press; he wanted to make sure Whittington's family got the news before it hit the airwaves; he "didn't know for sure what kind of shape Harry was in... and you need to really wait and nail it down"; and he wanted to make sure the "complicated story" was given to a reporter with "some degree of understanding" (as opposed to the first reporter Katharine Armstrong spoke to who "didn't now the difference between a rifle bullet and a shotgun").

Of course, none of these explanations explains the 18 hour delay or would have precluded the release of a simple announcement. Even Brit Hume was having a hard time buying into the vice president's justifications.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060216/cm_huffpost/015761

Cheney, 'a beer or two' and a gun

Vice President Dick Cheney, who was forced to leave Yale University because his penchant for late-night beer drinking exceeded his devotion to his studies, and who is one of the small number of Americans who can count two drunk driving busts on his record, was doing more than hunting quail on the day that he shot a Texas lawyer in the face.

The vice president has admitted that he was drinking on the afternoon of the incident. He claims it was only a beer, according to the transcript of an interview with Fox New Wednesday. But the whole discussion about how much drinking took place on the day of the fateful hunt has been evolving rapidly since Katherine Armstrong, the wealthy Republican lobbyist who is a member of the politically connected family that owns the ranch where Cheney blasted his hunting partner, initially claimed that no one was imbibing before the incident.

Armstrong later acknowledged to a reporter from the NBC investigative unit that alcohol may have been served at a picnic Saturday afternoon on the dude ranch where Cheney shot Harry Whittington.

According to the report, which appeared briefly Tuesday on MSNBC, Armstrong peddled the line that she did not believe that alcohol played a part in the shooting accident. But, she admitted, "There may be a beer or two in there, but remember not everyone in the party was shooting."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=60212

ak1971
02-17-2006, 12:07 AM
Cheney talks, the coverup continues

Watching Dead-eye Dick Cheney break his silence on Fox, I kept thinking: This is what it looks like when a man who is used to getting away with covering up the truth finally has to explain himself.

He did a lousy job -- especially on the key question of why it took so long to let the public know.

He offered a host of reasons for the 18 hour delay: he was more concerned with taking care of his friend than about notifying the press; he wanted to make sure Whittington's family got the news before it hit the airwaves; he "didn't know for sure what kind of shape Harry was in... and you need to really wait and nail it down"; and he wanted to make sure the "complicated story" was given to a reporter with "some degree of understanding" (as opposed to the first reporter Katharine Armstrong spoke to who "didn't now the difference between a rifle bullet and a shotgun").

Of course, none of these explanations explains the 18 hour delay or would have precluded the release of a simple announcement. Even Brit Hume was having a hard time buying into the vice president's justifications.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060216/cm_huffpost/015761

Cheney, 'a beer or two' and a gun

Vice President Dick Cheney, who was forced to leave Yale University because his penchant for late-night beer drinking exceeded his devotion to his studies, and who is one of the small number of Americans who can count two drunk driving busts on his record, was doing more than hunting quail on the day that he shot a Texas lawyer in the face.

The vice president has admitted that he was drinking on the afternoon of the incident. He claims it was only a beer, according to the transcript of an interview with Fox New Wednesday. But the whole discussion about how much drinking took place on the day of the fateful hunt has been evolving rapidly since Katherine Armstrong, the wealthy Republican lobbyist who is a member of the politically connected family that owns the ranch where Cheney blasted his hunting partner, initially claimed that no one was imbibing before the incident.

Armstrong later acknowledged to a reporter from the NBC investigative unit that alcohol may have been served at a picnic Saturday afternoon on the dude ranch where Cheney shot Harry Whittington.

According to the report, which appeared briefly Tuesday on MSNBC, Armstrong peddled the line that she did not believe that alcohol played a part in the shooting accident. But, she admitted, "There may be a beer or two in there, but remember not everyone in the party was shooting."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=60212
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-17-2006, 12:28 AM
??????

"Is our children learning?"http://mikemalloy.com/board/images/avatars/gallery/66621558543f0db2eb407c.jpg

RaiderH8r
02-17-2006, 09:21 AM
Can't hit the broad side of a barn, can you?

First of all, the artlcle was written by Lawrence O'Donnell - not Arianna Huffington.

Second, the fact that the title of the piece is a question, viz., "was Cheney drunk?" should have clued you in to the fact that no 'assertion' was being made (just a lot of questions asked and suspicious circumstances noted.)

Third, given the aforesaid suspicious circumstances surrounding the incident and, given Cheney's history of DUI arrests, the questions are perfectly reasonable.

http://www.bartcop.com/cheney-gun-spin.gif
Larry O, Arianna. Same whore different dress.

Prefacing assertions with a questions does nothing to mitigate the fact that the assertions were made.

Smiling Assassin27
02-17-2006, 11:13 AM
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special Foreword by Dan Quail...:thanku:

RaiderH8r
02-17-2006, 12:13 PM
Save a quail, shoot a lawyer.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-17-2006, 04:35 PM
Prefacing assertions with a questions does nothing to mitigate the fact that the assertions were made.

Show me one 'assertion' about Cheney drinking in the entire article.

There are only questions and conjectures.

And the questions aren't unreasonable.